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  • East Germany's HDI was .953, compared to West Germany's .967.

    East Germany was ranked 21st best in the world, while the West was 12th.

    East Germany had the 16th best per capita GDP in the world, while the West had the 11th.

    The Human Development Index(HDI) is an index to show the life expectancy, literacy, education and standards of living for countries worldwide.

    These numbers come from the UN's 1987 Human Development Index.

    Does the GDR still look evil?

  • I personally believe that the anti-communist protesers should have been crushed. You cannot kill something in its infancy and socialism was still very much in infancy. While reforms were necessary, people thinking that an the old capitalist system was better than the new communist system was extremely antiprogressive. These governments should have had a stronger will to stay in existance.

  • @llewisddiaz DON'T TALK SUCH CRAP

  • They were out of money and people were tired of the Stasi running thier lives, besides anti-progressive is good, Margaret Sanger was nasty witch an Progressive in America a very racist and elitest person. Progressives are secular humanist ruling class, who look down on the average person much in the same way liberal artists in the American education, hollywood and political ruling class in the Democratic party

  • i like how he turns and looks at the picture when he's on the phone

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  • Idk if china is as communist as it used to be..

  • What's amaizing about the DDR is that even well after a decade, and a maelstorm of capitalist propaganda people still nostalgically remember the old days and agood chunk of thm want it back.

    I feel the GDR would've lasted longer if their govt weren't so fucking paranoid w/ the people esp. with all that Stassi bullcrap. Socialism needs trust IN the people 2 work rite!

    Better way 2 control materialistic desires in ppl would simply b to legalize marijuana not send stassi after 'em :)

  • thumbs up if you're putting random letters in searcher

  • FUCK THE FALL BRING BACK THE WALL

  • 11 people are communists

  • That bitch Thatcher almost publicly objected to a unification of Germany. But Bush sr. Mitterand, Gorbachev overruled her.

  • Its DDR ( EAST GERMANY ) FDR ( WEST GERMANY)

  • Schade.

  • 6:15 in the year 2000? HAHA what a wxpert XD

  • awesome.

  • A fascinating film from the time. I had a VCR and a keen sense of history but I did not record it!

  • @alanheath Hi Alan, I am the person in the films from the University of Nottingham. Your channel looks very interesting; I will watch your videos with interest.

  • @childseastgermany Thanks that is great. Unfortunately there is so much stuff on my site and not really a very good way of sorting things out. I think something greater than a playlist is required but nothing is offered. Almost everything I have is contemporary with my reflections from my time in the DDR which was not all that great!

  • @childseastgermany Alan has very good videos i watch them all the time he has taught me more than i ever knew about World War 2 and im a Historian

  • presenter looks like geert wilders

  • china is next??

  • what channel was this on?

  • A very sad day; the day East Germany was annexed :( RIP GDR.

  • @acmilan93333 Not at all it was always one country

  • @acmilan93333 We celebrate the fall of the wall because it was a symbol of the cold war and the fall of the Stasi, because it invaded the private lives of people. It was no annexation: people escaped espontaneously, so I would call it a "collapse".

  • Great historical document. Danke :)

  • Those waving the Imperial Russian flags at 0:50 don't know their history.

  • @RPatrick88 No kidding. People like that need to GTFO of this planet

  • Only North Korea and Cuba can be compared with the DDR. Laos, Vitenam and China are capitalist countries run by a party that calls itself communist in reaction to what happened in Eastern Europe. DDR citizens could not travel freely and consumer goods were not readily available. For example, there was a long waiting list of years for a Trabi car. It had to be a Trabi or a Warti. It couldn't be a VW Beetle. This was what bothered East Germans. It was not that there were no elections.

  • @TheEurozhongguo LOLOL you think North Korea is comparable to either Cuba or GDR? Wow.... GDR and Cuba are/were far ahead of North Korea, and its not even close.

  • @TheEurozhongguo

    I so agee with you. It's the lack of freedom in the everyday life of citizens that brought Eastern Europe down. China allows far more freedom for it's people than a traditional Communist state. Interestingly, a HK/Chinese friend of mine said if China became 'democratic', it would result in a USSR-style collapse and the poorest parts of China would suffer the most. Plus the economic effect globally would be catastrophic. Better that China reforms, but remains as it is (for now).

  • in ten minutes this program makes fox news, cnn, and msnbc look like pure crap

  • Whatever you think of "communism", whatever you think of "capitalism", the one thing to remember is that people were fleeing from east to west and not the other way around. Why is the question you need to answer.

  • @Fetchdafish An excellent point. Unlike the walls we have today, they were designed to keep people in - not out!

  • @Fetchdafish: Those that did looked at their world by what they could or could not do, rather than what they had. Which points to one of the fundamental contradictions of a Stalinist system. The other thing to remember is that Eastern Europe turned into impoverished slums after the counter-revolution and/or interethnic bloodbaths thanks the to "forces of freedom" which caused people continually immigrate to the West. The difference is that in the post-Soviet world, the West turned them back.

  • @hectorbolshevik

    That's politicians for you. Defectors make you look good. Illegal immigrants not so much. But the living standard was always terrible in the east compared to the west. If you're suggesting otherwise, I'm clueless as to why.

  • communism rules!....living like a schmuck like everyone else. who doesn't want that?

  • GDR = Soviet Zone. Eastern Germany was under Polish governance. The so called GDR is Middle Germany.

  • @bimhimbim You are using old maps of the First World War...please update yourself!!!

  • @KronprinzAdam Get your historical facts right.

  • @bimhimbim I have my historical facts right. These issues were already solved in Yalta and Postdam in high-level conferences. The Allies were forced to make drastic decisions that shaped today's world. The time of diplomatic settlements was over after september 1939.

  • Next stop North Korea......

  • i'm glad the hellish eastern bloc regimes are gone. as well as soviet union. but its too bad the cubans, laotians, vietnamese, chinese, and koreans still suffer.

  • the anchor, ed mitchell went broke and became homeless a few years ago. alcohol and gambling were to blame, i'm not sure what's he up to now...

  • The socialist experiment that was the DDR has never ended and will NEVER end.

    For as long as human beings long to be taken care of and for as long as human beings live in uncertainty, there will ALWAYS be a call for socialist thought!!!

  • @Omithy People are humans and no guinea pigs or rabbits for social experimentation. The result of "social experimentation" is a complete disruption of society, families and institutions. Social problems will exist always, but in these systems, it is always a group of so-called "leaders" which finally build a closed system to make rich themselves and manipulate people. That's why they do not like that their citizens have contact with capitalist systems and see the truth for themselves.

  • how come korea wasn't reunified?

  • @BestlikeMike The ceasefire in Korea in 1953 saved the North Korean regime because the US-led UN forces feared retaliation from China and the Soviet Union. Fear of Chinese nuclear arms is still protecting that regime. In 1989, Shevardnadzie, the Soviet Foreign Minister, announced the Sinatra doctrine allowing the Soviet satellites to "do it their way" rather than forcibly restraining reform attempts by use of the Soviet armed forces as in Hungary (1956) and Czechoslovakia (1968).

  • @childseastgermany Actually, the ceasefire saved the South as well as the north since (look at the process of the war on a map) you see that the US(-supported) forces advanced almost all the way to the Chinese border but that the North almost took all of Korea with the Chinese troops coming in. The US-supported South then advanced once again but it's safe to say they wouldn't have been able to hold that ground for a long time since the Chinese kept coming.

    It could have gone on for some years...

  • @SteinbrecherBack The ceasefire saved the world's stability and prevented an scalation of the conflict. it was a better option for peace that a total chinese invasion or a nuclear response from USA.

  • @BestlikeMike Your question is the silliest question moron. Go ask your history teacher idiot, what a waste!

  • @BestlikeMike

    Sorry, but you cannot compare germany to korea.

    Germany has always been a high developed western industrial nation,

    also the feeling as "one nation" have been in peoples minds for all the years of the cold war, though they were seperated

    Sorry about my english, greets from germany :)

  • @freakyfreak90 Both nations split after second world war due to the struggle and occupation of USA and Soviet Union. Do you think really Korea has no industry at all?

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  • @KronprinzAdam its more a fact of civilisation and culture, then of industry. The first argument you mentioned, might be one general thing, but its not enough to compare

  • @freakyfreak90 What should be Germany's culture so special or different from other european countries? They

  • @freakyfreak90 What should be Germany's culture so special or different from other european countries?

  • @KronprinzAdam Wait, Korea is an Asian country .. is it?

  • @freakyfreak90 Yeah, it is an asian country...

  • @freakyfreak90 I just mentioned the other european countries as a reference...

  • @BestlikeMike because of dictator Kim Il Sung (his only ally is China). People of the north is actually close relatives from the people of the South, economical differences are just because of 2 different economic systems, economical growth of South Korea is amazing...

  • @KronprinzAdam ---------->Say that about economic growth of South Korea after ALL its major trading partners have collapsed. North Korean HDI was last recorded by UN in 1998 (google it up) and it stood at .77. This was in the midst of the ardorous march famime period from 1991-2003. So NK had a HDI of .77 even in midst of a drought and trading partner collapse. That is STILL better than almost all developing countries out there that r capitalist. India has 9 pc GDP but HDI of like .50.

  • @xxxdieselyyy2 How about salaries there? Would you like REALLY to move there?

  • @KronprinzAdam ----------------->I am an agrarian guy. I run a small cooperative in rural Kerala, whereas if I move 2 Mumbai and make my business into a private company I can drive around in a benz. I don't mind the DPRK salaries actualy. I just go for a tension free life, where I can smoke a joint in peace after work (legal in DPRK) and not worry how I am going to fund my kids' future education, pay for my old age etc etc.

    Materials never attractd me.

  • @xxxdieselyyy2 The reality is that people can have success in the capitalist system if they work hard and make intelligent decisions. Children education and retirement are part of these decisions. People have the right to create and run their own business. In the communist system, you only have to worry of not critizising the system and to get in jail because of that. People receive a few groceries and some pieces of soap, but that's all.

  • @KronprinzAdam The administration of the system (done by politicians and bureaucrats) is not always the most efficient one, there are great mistakes. There is no salary, people cannot have their own capital, and not everyone works motivated. That's why leaders simply close the borders and do not allow the people to see other different systems in order to get ideas. I had the idea that you can also get weed in some rural parts of North India (where everyhing started!!) but I think it is illegal

  • @KronprinzAdam ------------>But not if u live in India or a developing nation, specially if u r a son / daughter of a blue collar worker. Even if u work so hard like 14 hours a day, u barely have enough 2 get two basic meals. In India, I met a farmer who gave me a thorough schooling on black holes, but then he is cleaning dung of bulls, because he can't afford education. And there r rich kids who get education paid 4 and squander it away. U don't have that in Communist world.

  • @KronprinzAdam --------2----------->U r rite in sense Communist systems give u less MATERIAL goods, but then "a few groceries and a bar of soap" is a bit of an understatement. In the 1987, when USSR was in total decline, reported human development index was .92! People got MUCH more than just that.

    Here is a sample of what u got for FREE in Communist world which u NEVER will in a capitalist country:

    v=my9vKCEzpak

    In Capitalist education it's "A for apple, B for balls" etc....

  • @xxxdieselyyy2 The bar of soap is today's daily reality of cubans...somehow USSR industry collapsed together with the system. "capital" was there, but management was missing!!!

  • Romanians were worried by the fall of the GDR back then... It was almost like we knew what was about to happen to us. In Romania, the fall of the Socialist regime was the bloodiest "Revolution" in the Eastern Socialist Bloc.

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  • 1989 anti-communist march in mosocw? why the hell i did not see that?

  • While East Germany was no paradise, it's fall was anything but romantic. Many ex-DDR citizens were told to go back to their part of the country after the reunification killed their jobs, neo-Nazi terror skyrocketed, women lost the right to free abortion on demand, single working mothers lost childcare provided by the state, smong other things. In other cases, the new Eastern European "democracies" turned their countries into bloody war zones, or only faced mass impoverishment.

  • Ich war so froh damals, als der Kommunismus zu Ende gegangen war, weil ich so arrig gern Ami Fernsehsendungen anschaue, und so öbbes war in der DDR einfach verboten.

    Und ich schwetze Pälzisch, awwer sell waar damohls verboten.

  • I lost it when he pulled out the phone :D

  • If a centrally planned economy cannot work in Germany, it cannot work ANYWHERE!

    Free market economies are best - end of discussion.

  • How very democratic of you.

  • Sorry, accidentally hit "post comment".

    A wood burning stove is easier to repair than a central heating system, yet I'd rather have the central heating system.

    Cars in the east were awful and in short supply. Great example of the failure of a centrally planned economy.

    (the utube comment system is a mess)

  • i want a trabandt!

  • YEAH!

    ☭★LIEBE DER DDR!☭★

  • what were the east berliners expecting to find in the west? Did they leave behind accommodation and employment in the east..just to become homeless an unemployed?

    How peculiar..

  • ☭★LIEBE DER DDR!☭★

  • what if the East German government took a hard stand and decided to crack down on the demonstration, like what happened in Beijing just a few months ago? That question always intrigued me, as East Germany used to be the most hardline of all Eastern bloc countries.

  • @eddielung31 - Well, since Gorbachev stated that the USSR would no longer help them, NATO would have probably rolled over them if they actually started massacring their own people...Don't forgot the GDR only existed in so far as USSR tanks and bullets supported them.

  • well, that would push a little too far and if so, even Gorbachev can't afford to not looking their small brother's back---the fall of USSR is still unimaginable even in early 1989

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  • the GDR used to be the most authoritarian of all even compared with Poland or the Czechs before 1989, that possibility certainly couldn't rule out

  • wow, "by the year 2000, a united germany could join the community of free european nation"

    haha. try by 1991.

  • U see before u the collapse of system which only worked because it forcibly locked it's own citizens in and put dissidents in jail and u still defend it?

    U, my friend, are a moron!

    (I usually don't judge people based on a 500 character utube comment but I had to make an exception in your case)

  • I appreciate the exception. I'm sure the ecoonomic depression that gripped Eastern Europe and exposed that part of the world to capitalistic penetration was forcible imprisonment enough for the poor and families that once benefited from the previously-existing socialist welfare system.

    as if only the GDR had prisons

  • @blahblahblah8183 A temporary depression isn't the downfall of capitalism.

    Fact is that all people in the GDR were more or less equal... equally poor!

    Look at car production.

    What came out of the GDR were Wartburgs and Trabants. Awful cars especially by the 1980s.

    And did they actually achieve to build enough cars?

    NO!

    West germany didn't just have much better cars, they also had MORE cars per citizen.

  • Why were Trabants and Wartburgs "awful"?

    They may not be so pretty,but they are easy to repair,unlike late1980s Mercedes.

  • @Sismiques They were noisy, uncomfortable, slow, small, smelly and ugly.

    Is "easy to repair" your only argument?

    A wood burning stove is easier to repair than a central heating system, yet I'd rath

  • Just get better exaust systems,seats,and maybe some suspenision improvements.

    What is "Centrally Planned"?

    Late 80s Mercedes are prone to electric problems.

  • @Sismiques

    The GDR had a centrally planned economy. (I hope that's the correct term)

    If you lived in the (more or less free) market economy of the West and didn't like a Mercedes, you could choose from dozens of other car companies.

    My dad used to have a late 80s/early 90s Mercedes until a few years ago and it was extremely reliable, comfy, quiet, had a refined V6 engine, air conditioning, etc.

    A Trabant is a joke in comparison.

  • You call that encomy free?!

    Hah!

    Why not a GAZ-24?

  • Trabants stink (literally :-)

  • @sism

    When did a 1980 Mercedes did need repairs?

  • @robinhood48

    Things like the key ignition,heater--AC switch constanttly blowing out fuses,to name a few.

  • @simes

    Change limit switch in time (100 000 km), problem does not occur.

    Change V- belt after 50 000 km to avoid 90% of malfunctions.

    But you are right, nothing is perfect.

  • @blahblahblah8183 I may have misunderstood you but if these people cannot support themselves why should the goverment take care of them, if they have four limbs and a brain that works they should be able to care for themselves. If they are disabled it is a diffrent story. They need help. Lazy people do not.

  • @meronmotors ------------why should the goverment take care of them, if they have four limbs and a brain that works they should be able to care for themselves--------->Because of resource mal distribution. In India u hav cases where people work in farmland for 14 hours straight- MUCH more than what my sorry ass does- and still can't afford 2 square meals of rice bowls. The issue is not UNEMPLOYMENT but UNDEREMPLOYMENT w/ wage compensation. In India u r better begging than working in farms!

  • @blahblahblah8183 that part of the world is exposed to european socialism, not to capitalism. Simply, without proper administration and enterprises, the system collapsed and wasn't competitive enough to trade with the West. Why these countries aren't selling heavy industrial machinery and space technology? Russia is the european nation with huge natural resources, why not to use it? Communist administration is bureacracy, they look for political goals, it is not efficient.

  • Немцы немой

  • interesting to look at this old newsreel..

  • I liked the telephone he uses in the interview.

  • In a few years, they would taste first-hand the true side of the free-wheeling western capitalism, so of them would actually miss the controlled but at least stable days under the communist rule, how ironic turn of events would be at times.

  • the german minister saying that eastern european countries joining a free european comittee by year 2000 was quite an accurate foresight

  • Great stuff!

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  • FUCK YOU You have no idea what you are talking about so shut the fuck up ASSHOLE!!!!

  • No I do. In East Germany many people resented the Communist regime hell they had that huge ass protest and riot and many of them supported the Nazis and wanted them back again.

  • @JoeyD12345678 Fuck you stupid bitch

    @Cyclonus21 They didnt wanted the nazis back but freedom this is a huge difference where are you from anyway? did you learn this in school or something?

  • Idk I just wondered about that. So by this time the German people were like "Fuck Nazism'"?

  • yes

  • fuck you and shut up ...

    nazis are sick

  • To bad your sick twisted dream about having a NAZI Germany again will never happen. Also if history serves us all. Remember it was the United States and Great Britian that defeated those sick brain dead NAZI Zombies not just the Soviet Union. Remember the Battles. Battle of Britain Anzio, Sicily, Normandy, Battle of the Bulge,Stalingrad, Kursk Leningrad and the Battle of Berlin.Just like then we will come by and kick your Swastika Teeth in with my G.I. Combat Boot inside your big racist mouth.

  • To bad I'm not a Nazi or a racist. In fact I'm a Communist. Its very true the allies helped the USSR beat the Nazis but in reality the war in Europe became a war for the Soviets and not just the Allies. I never said I wanted Nazi Germany back, I said a lot of Germans wanted Nazism back during the Communist regime in East Germany. Neo-Nazism was high in both East and West Germany during the 60s because all of the adults in Germany had been in the Hitler youth at some point in there life.

  • Aren't national socialism and international socialism basically the same impulse? The only real difference is that while Nazis committed genocide according to race, communists committed genocide according to class.

  • That's a very good observation! On the other hand race is permanent while class may not be.

    Also during Stalin's terror ethnic cleansing was also took place on ethnic non-Russians

  • @schoonero National and int'l socialism are completely different animals. Globalism is a post-modern version of international fascism i.e. a war against the body-politic.

    Nat'l Socialism is humanist and orders the resources of the state to serve the domestic body-politic. Social integrity is the moral good. International "socialism," (Fascism) is a criminal conspiracy designed to prey on the body-politic and order national resources to serve the banks. Profit is the moral good.

  • Bullshit. Most of the people in East Germany wanted the GDR to disappear.All they want was a reunification with west germany. And Neo-Nazis were quite small in east germany and suppressed.

  • Not amongst the teenage population.

  • Basically I just pwned your ass.

  • the soviet union fought the Nazis far longer then the Americans and It was fierce fighting between the Soviets and the Nazis I can guarantee that the Germans would of won WW2 if they wouldn't of attacked the Soviet Union but the Soviets couldnt of beat the Nazis without the americans and the British

    P.S. im an american

  • Your absolutely Correct on your assesment about how Nazi Germany lost the war.But that is what happens when an insane Man by the name of Hitler tries to conquer the world. But you also forget that Nazi Germany could not compete with the United States when it came to it's vast resources.Also Germany needed a quick war in order to conquer the world.You also forget that it was Nazi Germany the declared War on the United States days after our country was attacked by Japan,by then Hitler was in USSR.

  • You cannot win against 60 countries. PUNKT

  • Do you know a lot of non-whites in America view the Nazi's as a white race. And not a more precise German Aryan race.

    Im white but I hear non-whites talk and I can just tell thats how they think.......

  • it should have been west germany joining east germany, damn it!!!!

  • The GDR was such a tragedy. It started off with such promise and hope, then things got rough, then came the golden age, and then the tragic fall into tyrannical oppressive government.

  • we back

  • Bye bye, communism.

  • But isn't a wall of bricks?

    Well now we can say that the poor are happy, they can be poorer in a capitalist country, under the regime of neolibelarism and savage economy. Yes they are happier...for sure....BUT I will continue fighting for a Socialist society, with solu and real friendiship.

  • You sire, are a dreamer

  • 6:20 How dreadfully right he was!

  • Well he was probably one of 'them!'

  • The news reader is Ed Mitchell who sadly is currently an alcoholic who lives on the streets.

  • Quite extraordinary the events of the last 20 years; I am pleased to have been able to witness them. How wonderful a place Europe is now - free within a safe European Union.

  • @Pinnertop In comparison, now you can travel everywhere (of course, with enough €€€) and you don' have a "checkpoint Charlie" at every place!!! 

  • East Germany (1949 to 1990), hard to believe such a country ever existed

  • It did! That was the result of the devision of Germany after WW2 into zones, and the Russians claimed East Germany as the Western allied forces did in the west and that resulted into the "Cold War"

  • I know it existed, I am just saying it is hard to believe!!!

  • I particularly like the way in which the newsreader conducts the telephone interview at the end of the clip with a real telephone, putting down the handset at the end of the call :)

    What was this channel? An early cable predecessor to CNBC or Euronews?

  • The European Business Channel was launched in 1988, and was the first business channel for Europe, carried on various cable and satellite channels including Sky News and RTL 4.

  • very good video! history in the making

    Got any more videos like this mate?

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