Feminism is the most devilish propaganda of hate,lie and hysteria ever seen in all History. Their goal is to give a frightening image of men to women so that the latter be left with no protectors at all.
I am a woman and I personnaly hate with alll my heart and soul the way those agents of hell constantly malign the males we are supposed to LOVE.
It cannot be assumed that lizardmen are bound to be an asset to lounge life, or that the presence of overlizards in their designated family unit is necessarily a means to social harmony and breeding.
RADAR shows that women commit 71% of all DV. Get bent, feminazi liars with your shaming language! Maybe some of these men can't get their memories of psychotic wives out of their heads. Take your conformism elsewhere!
Feminists are fools. They run around sniping of young boys balls then complain that there are no real men left. Yeah that plan was well thought out. The furnace of our society ceased to produce real men along time ago. Fortunately one of the few upsides to war is that combat has a tendency to force boys to become men or get shattered between the anvil of truth and the hammer of decision. So there is hope. It is a shame that so many boys and good men must die in the process though :(
Femists groups are the ones (and only ones) constantly fighting AGAINST reforming paternity fraud laws. Mind if I ask, why do you feel it's fair for a woman to literally be able to "pick and choose" which man is financially responsible to pay child support to her? If you advocate feminism, then this shouldn't be a difficult question to answer.
@Kenshiroit Paternity fraud hurts (first and foremost) the child, the bilogical father, the fathers parents (grandparents), financially destroys the non biological "role model" father, hurts his family....... and the only one who benefiets is the mother... and she only benefiets financially.
Any woman whose a 2010 self proclaimed "feminist" is questionable at best. They should be ashamed for contributing to destroying so many lives. Not ONE "feminist" i've asked this has been able ot answer.
If people care for the wellbein of they'r children, they should be per default against paternity fraud. Who do not agree is because they have other agendas.
large number. ok, just saw you posted another link dealing with US.... But if single mother households are at such high numbers, and the child spends so much more time with their mother, fathers do not have the opportunity to abuse the child to the same extend as the mother has. Or are all those single households merely feminists fault again?
@ayanamicurekafka I don't know that feminists are at fault for this. that wasn't my point. I'm just pointing out that the statistics regarding child abuse perpetrated by women don't make it into the public consciousness, but psa's etc. addressing DV / child abuse almost universally depict the perpetrators as men, and the victims as women/children. Since it's not representative of the facts, it's ideological propaganda which serves to distort public opinion, specifically of men. that's misandry.
If all things are the way they are presented in your argument and if I don´t get to take other aspects in consideration (dimention of abuse, form of abuse (sexual abuse is far more perpetrated by man I saw), or other structural factors) which I haven´t figured now: well, then I´d have no problem stating I am on your side. Those facts should then be taken to the public at a larger extend. Don´t want to have misinformation spreading...
@ayanamicurekafka you might look up ifeminists-dot-com, a feminist group that acknowledges misandry and challenges some of the prevailing myths produced by the radical element within late 20th feminism.
@2ravens2wolves absolutely. ifeminism is ok in most MRA's books, because they do recognise misandry, they don't blame men for it (and everything wrong in the world) and they do acknowledge feminism has gotten out of hand.
@ayanamicurekafka Let's see, who promoted divorce by pushing for women to be financially rewarded for kicking the man out of the house? Yeah! It certainly wasn't MRA's doing that.
I love the way you try to justify women's abuses of children... Let's see if it works in other ways, "Only men have penises, so that's why rape happens".
I disagree on the matter that feminism is responsible for families braking up. Feminism just opened the door for women to leave their husband if he is in fact a jerk.
And I don´t justify children´s abuse! But if 40% of children are abused in motherly single households, then the other 60% are the ones which can only be conclusive. 50 of that 60% then are blamed on men, which is a lot. Women can also rape, so your penis argument is dropped.
@ayan Wrong, it opened the door to be REWARDED for divorcing men whether he is a jerk or not. It allows women to hide behind children and bleed a man dry or even in some cases, drive him to suicide.
It is good that you can look at raw data and draw conclusions about it... Your sexism lies in that you only do so when said raw data paints women badly (child abuse). You see data painting men as bad and say "see, men are evil - it says so here" and offer not a single idea as to why.
Let me illustrate: If there were only black people on an island, no white man was capable of abusing children there except for tourism or a weekendly visit. Your conclusion would be: Black people are the abusive ones, while I say we need to take in consideration matters of time and space as well. If no man was ever placed next to a woman there wouldn´t be the phenomena of rape (excluding same gender assaults). If the man isn´t there too often, he can´t abuse the child. Simple as that
@ayan Yes I fully understand your point. As I said above, it's good you can obviously deduce information from raw data... shame you choose not to when raw data paints men badly, instead you simply use it as 'proof' that men are inferior to women and should be blamed for everything wrong.
Are you honestly that ignorant? You really think antiquelens wanted "proof" that there once was violence inflicted by women? OF COURSE it happens and no feminist I know has EVER stated anything that dumb. However Antiquelens wanted hard facts and studies that show that the majority of domestic violence was inflicted by women (like the video suggests). Looking forward to a reply that makes any kind of sense.
@ayanamicurekafka the video did not say women commit the majority of DV, the video stated that mothers commit more child abuse than men, and asked why children are not protected (eg VAWA = women / why no VACA or better, VAPA = People)? It also stated that men are the primary recipients of generic violence (from men AND women)so why are the majority victims ignored in favour the least affected?
ok, so the video states something similar. My question remains: Where does that obscure statistic come from? Funny thing nobody has an answer to that.
I don´t know too much about protecting institutions in the US, I´m European. Can´t argue on that topic.
I admit that your reply at least made sense, which is pleasantly surprising considering the content of this video. Oh well, in real life, feminism wins anyways!
@ayanamicurekafka I'm also European, well English to be precise. However, misandry promoters (feminists) are pushing for similar in other countries like England and India etc. Why do they pretend only one specific group of victims are worthy of protection? Isn't that the very definition of sexism they *pretend* to fight against?
Simple answer: They don´t! In the way i consider myself to be a feminist I can assure you I don´t intend to promote women´s rights only but anything that leads to equality of rights. In Germany for example (as well as in many other countries) we cerntainly have to strenghen father´s rights.But,you see,feminism started off with their right primarily (can´t blame em for that), now that some structures change there are new issues to be dealt with.Can´t figure out what your "idea" means
Lying by pretending they don't promote that only women need protection. Once uponatime they had equal protection, now women get superior protection than men & children. Do you realise if you accidentally run over a woman and kill her, you do more time in jail than if you ran & killed a man regardless of your sex?
Women are ALWAYS more protected - and much of it is thanks to feminists promoting blatant sexism translating to 'men are inferior'.
The problem I got with your statement is: I consider myself a feminist, so I might tell you what I believe, and I tell you how I perceive other feminists. You do not show me evidence and just tell me what you think they stand for. As I said feminism started since there was an urge for women´s rights. And the way I as a german male see it, women are still oppressed in some serious topics (prostitution, pornography, abortion rights for example)
@ayanamicurekafka you have watched a video filled with sexist statements by feminists and been given a URL with government data on mothers abusing children - and claim you haven't seen any evidence? Like I said - get your reading glasses on, please.
Women who choose to prostitute themselves or act in pornographic flicks, have the same rights as other individuals. Women have abortion rights - men have zero reproductive rights and very, very few birth control options.
As I said, I couldn´t use that URL. But now we talk on the topic: The choice to being a prostitute is basically not the same as the choice to becoming a teacher for example. The free will and consentual thesises are but a myth in this context: Watch "Belladonna interview from Prime Time".
Man can use a condom, can´t they? And I hope you don´t want the potential father to have any legal right within abortion. It´s not their body, so they are out of the decision.
@ayanamicurekafka I have to go sleep now, some of us have jobs. However, before I go, I'll say this:
I note you have ignored just about everything I have put forward and focused on ONE area where you think you have the moral highground. How about identifying some of the points I've raised? And how about asking, "If feminism is about equality - why does it ignore areas where men receive inferior treatment? Why does feminism focus exclusively on women while pretending to be for **equality**?"
Yes, men can use a condom - but as I said - it's limited. If she doesn't want him using one, he cannot hide the fact from her. BUT she can use a diaphragm or the pill without his knowledge, she can 'forget' to take the pill without his knowledge, and so on. Women have ALL the power where reproductive rights are concerned, as if men are of no value to the equation. How sexist!!
If men have NO input on abortion - then men should have a legal equalizer... financial abortion.
Sigh: feminism is historically based primarily concerned with women´s rights. Now the area of concern slowly widens (men are left behind in topics they never felt being left behind before), so feminism, as well as society as a whole, has to adress the new topics as well. This might take a while, as it does with society (which is def not to be blamed on the feminists). And how is it sexist when it´s biological fact women give birth? There´s the line... Have a nice sleep anyway
@mathewskarl According to the national center for health statistics, 40% of the children born in the states were by single women (in 2007) & this number has constantly been on the rise over the past 15 years. While feminists advocate single motherhood, do you REALLY think it's just a coincidence that child obesiety is an epidemic, our kids are getting less educated, and they're more prone to drug abuse at a younger age? These women don't care about anyone but themselves. Not even kids.
@ayanamicurekafka Australian Institute of Health and Welfare (AIHW) and Administration for Children and Families (ACF) stats. for 2007 56.5% of abuse and neglect perpetrated by women. 2004 57.8% abuse and neglect by women. 38% of abused children live in single mother households. The report's findings reveal 39 per cent of the 1,505 substantiated cases of child maltreatment between between 2007 and 2008 were perpetrated by parents, with mothers accounting for 73% of parent-on-child cases
I will look at that report in detail soon. I already saw that any internet source on this topic was provided by "men´s rights movement" and links to the studies themselves were neglected at this hour. But it´s funny that one takes a study from Australia whereas, well, this ain´t Australia here. But yeah, it´s an industrial country, I see that. Still if 38% of the abused children are in motherly households alone, that alone should explain why the perpetrators were women to a
@ayanamicurekafka wow. the both the american and australian studies were conducted and published by the governments of those countries, not by an MRA group.
I never said they weren´t. If I google the Australian study I am directed to MRA sites mainly, plus some other link who don´t work anymore. That´s all I meant to say; would be rather goofy to assume both studies were faked by the all too mighty MRA. I´ll leave that logic of accusation of false studies, iniciated by the feminist lobby, to you. If there´s a study you don´t like, just say it´s a feminist study.... Not my cup of tea though.
What a stinky video. I can´t believe I keep on reading about feminism being "indoctrinating" "misinforming" and such, yet I see this video which takes Dworkin´s quotes fully out of context (which is called "misinforming") and just stating some non-empirical "woman are the aggressive" "facts"...
I, as a male feminist, am truely stunned by this ignorance!
Don´t know how to put this, sexist bast***, but I am in fact a male being. And what a fu**** up reply is this? Good luck provoking somebody; I am soooo beyond this. Man, this is tiring to have the same lame wannabe-male donkeys... You should form a group: "Angry manly manman ignoramouses"
@videodads I am sure most of the real feminists don't hate men, just some women wear the name of "feminist" obviously they are not feminist and use the name to hate men. There is a big difference between feminism and misandry
@Assault912 As I said, I take feminism by it's actions - not it's claims. The KKK could claim to be about ending racism all they want, but we hold them accountable by their actions not their words.
"Yes Matthew...if you state anything here that DOES not support feminism but rathe questions it...you hate and are afraid....of women! "How does this BS start?
I consider myself a feminist and I disagree with the majority of the statements made by "feminists" in this video.
Not all feminists are manhaters. I say that most women these days and most men are feminists and don't even realize it. A feminist is someone who believes in equality. People who use feminism as an excuse to hate men in my opinion are not truly feminists.
@fabifly that may be so, but I judge a movement on it's actions - not it's claims. And the majority of feminist actions are male-hostile and deceptive.
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@leostomicek ...No they aren't. They have been lied to and for whatever reason, they have chosen to believe what the feminists tell them. They feel empowered by it. God loves those women, even the ones who don't acknowledge HIS existence. Feminism is not the answer for women. Men and women are equal in personal worth and value but we were designed to have different roles within the family structure. Men who abuse women are wrong but misandry is equally wrong.
And you are a person afraid of honest, open debate; instead preferring to rely on dishonest shaming tactics.
The above video has nothing to do with fear of women; women are a sex. It has everything to do with disdain for feminism; an ideology which promotes misandry and misinformation... just like you have in your comment.
@mingtonfuller let's say he is afraid of women, doesn't that imply that he deserves protection. men are afraid of women not becuae they are women, men are afraind of women becuase of the system that has been put in place that allows women to maninpulate, lie, and still a man's child. men feaer for there children at the hands of feminism, men fear for their liberity at the hands of freedom.
@mingtonfuller regardless, he is not the one who made a troll acount just to say some pathetic shit lke that, it not he tha tshould be afraid of women, it is poeple like you that should be afaird of what is coming, your bullshit will not be tolerated much longer,
@ORVX Your a pussy i think that women were put on this earth to serve us men, after all WHO came first out of adam and eve actually WHO came OUT of adams rib? hmm? ok if ur not biblical who hunted for the cavemen? not the women, oh no, it was the MEN i think women need to stop FUCKING around with all this civil rights and shit and just PLEASE their man i think this world would be SO much easier if they fed us, washed our clothes (AND FOLDED THEM) and fucked us when ever we say to :)
@iCyborg85 u sound like a real tool, my guess it you're a femenist troll trying to make MRA's look bad, if not send me a pm if you really want to find out how big a pussy I am.
whoh those women are like that because they are probably the ugliest things ive ever seen in my life and theyve probably been rejected by every man and thats what you get from a life of jealousy LOL
But when you attack patriarchy in an effort to replace it with patriarchy, you automatically declare that the moment a men is in charge, that he'll be abusive, corrupt and oppressive and that somehow women are incapable of being any and all of the above. Patriarchy was never the problem- machismo is and it continues to be a problem in the push towards a matriarchy, with it in fact becoming a core element of it.
Personally I'd rather we had VAPA rather than both VAWA and VAMA. Even having both, you're still bringing gender politics into domestic and child violence. Awareness needs to change so that people see abuse as something which is inflicted upon people by other people.
a quick google on any of the quotes will offer more than a handful of sources. As for hating women, that's a relatively typical and neanderthal response from someone who is intimidated by the concept of men having true equality (as oppose the feminist concept of 'selective equality' where only equality which benefits females is sought after).
If you can supply a logical argument, I'm all ears. But if your only resort is to insult & stamp your feet, you know where the door is.
@antiquelens You're a misandrist- pure & simple. You want an example- I quote my life story: 23 years of psychological abuse at the hands of female family members including my own mother from the age of 6 & an 18 month long ordeal of domestic violence at the hands of my girlfriend, & I've spoken to many men with similar stories to mine.
The reason you don't hear that much from us publicly is because women like you villainise and dismiss us because we take your propaganda & turn it on its head.
Oh really, then explain to me AS A VICTIM OF WOMEN for most of my life, why you treat my plight & the plight of other men as "what a lovely pile of shit."
The reality is that you ARE a hardcore misandrist who views men only as abusers & treats any of us who come forward as battered men as perpetual liars- your own words saw as much.
As one of countless men who unlike most others, refuses to suffer their shame in silence, I tell you your attitude is as bad as calling a raped woman a cheap slut!
it would be nice if you could supply some links to this apparent abuse women do unto children. "
You've effectively claimed with this statement tht it's a practical impossibility for a women to be capable of abuse.
According to this logic, as a woman is incapable of abuse, the victim not only must have been at fault, but by speaking out, they're falsely acusing an innocent person, so they're effectively a depraved liar.
""have fun living in your nuclear family bubble, oh wait, you probably hate women."
Again, this winds up being the standard catchcry of feminists when the inequalities are pointed out, which is ironically as depraved as those who callously and libelly dismiss those fighting for genuine equality for women.
You'll find that intelligent men who oppose feminism are all for true equality, however when you have an ideology that claims to focus on equality but instead attacks one gender to the point where abusers are sheltered, the brutal murder of children in the tens of millions (resons aside, the methodology allone makes mengler look like a rank ameteur) and victims are dismissed and even villainsed for speaking out, then the movement clealry isn't about equality at all.
One of the founding mothers of the women's movement, Mary Wolstonecroft, put it best when she stated that for the women's movement to truly be about equality, it had to make sure that in advancing its own rights it did not violate the fundamental rights of others. Yet in areas such as DV policy and abortion it does exactly that.
You said you don't think what you said what you were saying about male abuse victims, yet the rhetoric you were spouting clearly was voicing that.
Now if what you think and the rhetoric you were spouting are such polar oposites in such a fundamental issue of human rights, then isn't it logically time to question just how much the rhetoric fits in with what you truly believe?
Wow, way to prove the whole MRA argument right that the vst majority of times that a man brings up the inequalities they face in the world that they are personally attacked the moment feminists can't counter their arguments.
And yet you type things like "you said you don't think what you said what you were saying about." And you spend A LOT of time typing shit like that. If that's not crazy, it should be.
No, that's intelligently responding to a double standard, when the double stand is sick and depraved. At the same time, it's giving people the benefit of the doubt when they claim that they never meant, or don't believe they said, when they had clearly just said it.
If you don't believe that social movements and society in general, can and do at times, indoctrinate people to the point where they get fed belief systems that they either never question, or are trained not to question, then the crazy person is yourself, or at best, merely extremely ignorant and naive.
I happen to agree that they should- at the same time though, that doesn't change the harm which feminism causes in its persecution complex driven tunnel vision or the double standards it fosters. Or do you believe that battered men and abused children should be automatically blamed for their abuse the moment the abuser is a woman?
@antiquelens looks up Collette Harris, a woman who beat her toddler son to death, he died as the result of 80 distinct injuries and bruises. She also is believed to have shut her son's hand in an oven door, burning it seriously. Then look up Mayra Lizbeth Rosales, who was charged and convicted of the murder of her two year old nephew, also a death by physical abuse. Then Monika Paczkowska, who beat her 3 year old daughter to death for wetting her bed. she died of 70 distinct injuries. etc etc.
congrats on researching 3 names on the internet! You have now fully proven that women are indeed mean beings. How the **** can you honestly believe those 3 names are representative to ANYTHING?
"3 white people (Tim Dumb, John Ignorance, Seth Idiot) once killed a baby in a cruel way", so by your "logic" i come to the conclusion that white male people are bastards!? So ignorant...
@ayanamicurekafka Congratulations on your cheap, condescending tone ! Snide, shaming language, the common place feminist responses to any form of criticism or dissent. My citation of 3 women abusing children was a direct response to Anitquelens request to see "the apparent abuse women do unto children" I supplied a factual source of information on the subject which makes me "so ignorant...." ? are you joking? It was not intended to prove all women are like that. It proves that it does happen.
Are you honestly that ignorant? You really think antiquelens wanted "proof" that there once was violence inflicted by women? OF COURSE it happens and no feminist I know has EVER stated anything that dumb. However Antiquelens wanted hard facts and studies that show that the majority of domestic violence was inflicted by women (like the video suggests). Looking forward to a reply that makes any kind of sense.
Are you honestly that ignorant? You really think antiquelens wanted "proof" that there once was violence inflicted by women? OF COURSE it happens and no feminist I know has EVER states anything that dumb. However Antiquelens wanted hard facts and studies that show that the majority of domestic violence was inflicted by women (like the video suggests). Looking forward to a reply that makes any kind of sense.
Are you honestly that ignorant? You really think antiquelens wanted "proof" that there once was violence inflicted by women? OF COURSE it happens and no feminist I know has EVER stated anything that dumb. However Antiquelens wanted hard facts and studies that show that the majority of domestic violence was inflicted by women (like the video suggests). Looking forward to a reply that makes any kind of sense.
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by the way you should've put the name of feminist who you are quoting, next to the quote, otherwise people could think you made those quotes up yourself. Needs to be verifiable.
the quotes can be verified on google, word for word.... anyway, there is a picture of each feminist who said each quote directly above the quotes... so no need for names.
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u have to realise though that although these feminists did say things which were untrue and misandry, sexual violence is still widespread and the ratio of reported rapes to convicted is too small. Sexual violence is still a problem, and so is unequal pay. Women are still not equal in many other ways too, so feminism is still relevant as it seeks to establish more rights and equality for women. Don't judge the whole movement to be misandry based on some quotes by dworkin or mackinnon.
No, I judge the whole movement based on the icon leaders AND the actions of the feminist groups. For example, most feminists will claim women earn less than men, but somehow, 'forget' to mention that women's choices are the primary reason for the difference. They also 'forget' to mention that in the inner-cities, women outearn men. Same with D/V, feminists make claims and 'forget' to mention pertinent information which clearly changes everything. This 'selective amnesia' is a big problem.
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And how about affordable quality daycare? The right wingers can't stop picketing outside Planned Parenthood, but if they all became babysitters instead, a lot fewer women would choose to terminate.
Feminists and women screw themselves. When women go out into the workforce to have a career, they need to hire another woman from the working class (a maid) to take care of their children. So women are now in the business of oppressing other women. And who upstairs smoking a cigar sees it
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There's an easy solution for that, and feminists are asking for it: Quality affordable daycare. You know, kind of like they have in Europe and every other industrialized nation of the world except for the U.S.
You've just reinforced my argument. It's a catch-22. The only way you'd put your child in daycare is if you made significantly more than what the service was charging, otherwise it would be pointless. Daycare is about $800-$1000/month in most industrialised countries. That's fine for wealthy women. However, the vast majority of women are not wealthy. Hence, feminism serves the interests of wealthy women only.
WRONG! Do you really think every working woman is a feminist? Are you nuts? Do you really think every working woman is a mother with children who need constant supervision? Workers who are childless or whose children are older or who have other family members available to watch their children also have their interests served by having a job. You don't actually know any women, do you?
@shmiggen Actually, feminists are constantly fighting AGAINST reforming paternity fruad laws. That being said, even a woman making a modest income can live damned well if she can pick and choose the man to pay her child support.
Wow, that's a lot of thumbs down for quality affordable daycare. I guess you like Mom home, barefoot and pregnant? Or would you like to put the kids in cages?
What does that have to do with day care? I thought you were talking about women who wanted daycare, not childless women. Of course not all women are feminists. Actually, feminism has many different subgroups, like lesbian feminism, marxist feminism, radical feminism, etc etc. Daycare merely exploits working class women.
Daycare EXPLOITS women? Well, I guess we're lucky there's so little exploitation going on in the U.S., then, aren't we -- unlike those hideously exploitative countries in Western Europe where they have quality, affordable daycare.
Well, it's a great idea, but like everything, one must read the contract. You will have to pay the nanny or daycare provider enough money so that it is worthwhile to do that kind of job. In addition, your job will have to be profitable enough so that it is worth your while to go to work and pay for daycare, correct? What about the women who work in the daycare? What kind of salary should she get? Who will pay her salary?
@shmiggen Who pays for public schools here in the U.S.? In Europe, the more civilized countries, with the lower crime rates, the lower teen birth rates, the better health indices, and the overall higher standards of living have quality, affordable, developmentally-appropriate, publicly funded educational facilities for children of ALL ages, not just children age 5 or older. If they can do it, why can't we?
I agree with you. In fact, in Quebec, they do have universal daycare, which costs a mere seven dollars a day for the consumer. Some believe it works in Quebec because of the French fear of being demographically denuded. There has been resistance in the rest of Canada, which is even more liberal than the USA, because of a resistance to increased taxation. I'm in favour of it; it's just that there are so many socially conservative people in North America, including women, who will resist.
@OthelloCarmellow I couldn't agree with you more. That's why I support the right to abortion on demand, as well as medically accurate sex education and easy access to birth control. Women who can't afford children shouldn't be having them. Hear hear.
Wake up dude, women can have it all because theyve already turned men into sperm doning slaves. If you dont do as told and she leaves she will take the kids and with that your house, half your belongings and you will under prison threat be forced to work 18 years to support children turned to hate you by the woman and society. Feminists say boys and men are stupid and the stupidity that got us here was the men being chivalresque to all women under the misconception women were not evil.
I'm awake, I just can't relate with men who agree to marry and/or impregnate American women. I don't even know how men get sucked into that pit anymore.
Getting laid and using condoms is easy. There's no reason to be in that situation.
Good to hear you are awake. Many others are not. There is a huge lack of information. I'll agree with you on this "Women who don't want to be or can't afford to be mothers shouldn't be having children. " Yet development in west is so that either a single man will be enslaved and/or taxes will be taken from all men and given to the mother so that she can raise the child without a father if she chooses to. This is unnatural, inhumane evil. Punishing all men, the children and the specific fathers.
"Yet development in west is so that either a single man will be enslaved and/or taxes will be taken from all men and given to the mother so that she can raise the child without a father if she chooses to."
My thoughts exactly. That was the motivation for my original comment.
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Some good quotes like the one about 'beating a man to a pulp' etc is blatantly just anger at men for abusing women and is unnecessary hating. She is just tryin to make a point about what men do to women. Also, 'under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman' - this is blatantly false and is callin every man a rpaist or exploiter.
I think that people in the history have been abused, manipulated and unrespected by other people (women and men). Even all, you can't ignore that in the past and even in the present there are many women who have BIG problems of inequality respect the men in stuff like job salaries, marriage problems, maternity, personal appereance and stereothypes by gender.
Feminism, like political correctness is nothing more than a public urinal against which we can relieve iurselves whenever we please
outdated, discredited and irrelevant to the post-socialist (nu labour) era that will be built here in the UK when tony blair's evil legacy is dismantled forever feminism has breathed its last....few will miss it when it is gone and those who might are irrelevant
You know, it all comes down to whoever wants to define feminism. I'm well aware of the misandry and how most mainstream non-extremist feminists act as if it doesn't exist. But the women's movement has brought us a long way from Father Knows Best in the 1950s. Let's face it. It's a mixed bag. You can't come up with one simple definition of what feminism is. Defining feminism is like defining God. No two people seem to agree.
Bravo, pumpkin! I could have hardly have said it better myself. Furthermore, I might venture a guess (based on my internship at a womens shelter 's DV counseling center) that "unreported cases of dv" also include quite a sizable number of female survivors who don't report, sometimes out of justified extreme fear of their attacker. We men are no worse or better. Just socialized 'differently'. And that needs to change.
We also need to 'socialize' the D/V industry (you know, money making machine) to accept that women are also abusive - not just men, as feminist groups pretend.
I should also add, if men really were getting beating up far more then women in domestic violence, and they "tend to not report it", it is only thanks your own prevalent, stupid patriarchal values where it is somehow wrong for men to admit being hurt, especially by a female. So "feminist training" my ass. You only have those tough guy macho ideals to blame, because honestly, I would consider it just as detrimental a problem if that many men were being hurt in dv and no one even believed them.
Actually, repeatedly studies confirm that women initiate violence slightly more than men (at least within intimate relationships)...
And why am I not surprised to see a feminist blaming men - even for women's wrong doings. This is typical feminist behaviour. And while you say in one post "don't blame all feminists" you do precisely what all other feminists do; blame men even for women's actions & decisions.
Tell me, has a woman ever done a single thing wrong, ever?
I've never seen such studies so idk. But I won't deny that some women can be just as violent as some men. I'm sorry if you think I'm only blaming men for dv, but maybe you should've read my reply more thoroughly because that was definitely not my intention. My point was only that if men are reporting it even LESS than women do I think its their own rigid patriarchal ideals that are to blame. Women don't have any similar ideals to make it harder for them.
And what is 'the patriarchy'? It's the "feminist theory" (i.e. not fact) that men have control, basically.
So, blaming the Patriarchy, is blaming men. Don't cop out. And despite your denial, feminist groups DO 'educate' police departments on d/v, and they do as you do - blame men.
Thanks for acknowledging that some women can do bad... I must frame this.
Ignorance is a tool that feminists loves to use. Male are just as much as victims as women are. In fact studies show that is DV cases against women 70% percent of the women was the aggressor. Meaning that She threw the first hit, and the man hit her back. This is because if you hit a woman in self defense it is a crime. Also I have noticed in your comments you used a bunch of fallacies. Like there is no true Scotsman fallacy.
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Where are the studies? Back it up man.. And it better not come from some anti-feminist site dripping with pointless hate and "men are better than womyn" crap... And a fallacy? Give me a break. The definition of feminism has never been "to hate a man". A couple of bad apple "feminists" DO NOT speak for all the rest of us. They're not in control. Exaggerating the amount of corrupt feminists that are out there (and how much they actually affect anything) doesn't help Anyone, men or women.
You can go right down the line and list EVERY feminist leader and somehow, none of what they say is 'real feminism'. I wonder how feminism has survived all these years if the feminist leaders have NEVER spoken for their followers?
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Well, you should've noticed I only used that term once.
I'll have to be honest and say I never saw feminists using the term "womyn". When I did it was from a couple of guys doing so, which is why I thought it was actually the opposite, that it was some group of guys that made it up because THEY didn't like having that in common. It seemed obvious that they preferred calling women "womyn", not to mention in a very belittling manner. Yknow, like we don't deserve to have the word "man" in there.
Besides, why are you convinced your ex friend was seething with hatred just because she didn't think the two should be the same? Did you ever bother to ask why exactly she thought that?
I'm guessing, (and I'm not saying I agree with her) that perhaps in her opinion its similar to how people will address everyone as "guys", even when the group being addressed has more females, or are all female. I realize its not the same thing, but I can see how someone else might think of it that way.
That women is fucking INSANE, not a feminist in any way. You're confusing a few psychos who don't know shit with feminists that are actually trying to improve things. Good job using one or two bad apples to demonize everyone that has ever wanted to help women. Utter bullshit.
Since you're being such a douche, should I just label all other men douches too?
Yeah, and men are more victims of violence because they initiate more violence between themselves. Not because girls are beating them all up.
The problem is, pumpkins - it's not just "one or two feminists".
Look through the feminists who hold power and influence, authors, politicians, etc. and you'll see - clearly - this is a recurring problem.
And there's a complete difference, as I'm sure you're fully aware, between attacking an ideology (feminism) which men and women can affailiate to - and attacking half the planet's population (men). Feminism already spreads hatred aimed at men.
So.. you're saying pretty much all feminists that have any influence and power are just a bunch of retarded psychos who think all sex is rape? Obviously anyone that thinks that is wrong in the head, but.. they're not by any means the majority of feminists, or the majority of very influential feminists. Feminists never would have achieved anything if that was the case, they'd only be ridiculed. No voting rights, no reproductive rights, etc. Nothing.
Feminism doesn't spread hate toward men. You can point out those mentally impotent women who THINK they're feminists all you want, they don't represent feminism and what the rest of women who consider themselves feminists believe. This is not to say that some hate and resentment doesn't exist, but its not directed at the Entire male population. Its at the type of guys who think things like any girl who dares step out of "her place" deserves to be raped and receive a cum "facial", for starters.
I didn't say all feminists believe this, or that, or the other... So let's not fall into the 'putting words in peoples mouths' game.
However, feminism DOES spread hatred directly squarely at men. Sure, it *might* only refer to 'those guys who think ...she deserves to be raped/facial" - but how often is that 'disclaimer' stated? Very, very rarely.
In this very thread, one of your sisters denies that only 1% of men are criminals and suggests "1% to infinity"... ahuh.
Well I never thought it needed a 'disclaimer', anytime I've read something that might be a trigger, they usually make it obvious who they're directing the vitriol at, and why or what they think is wrong. But I continuously see people missing the point completely in spite of that, then begins the "oo you're all man-hating lesbian cunts", so I don't know what it takes to stop them from assuming that right away. Pray tell where this wayward "sister" is so I can give her a stern talking to. :P
Despite the collection of quotes and statistics in this clip, it is biological fact that men's bodies are generally more muscular and physically dangerous than those of women. The vast majority of domestic violence cases (at least here in the UK) are of men abusing women. Although this is much more difficult to prove, there is a general assumption that until recent times, most husbands considered having sex as their right - it is known that this attitude still prevails.
You forgot a very important word in there, TheEast...
"reported"
Your line should have read: "The vast majority of **reported** domestic violence cases (at least here in the UK) are of men abusing women."
It is well known that men tend not to report d/v, even when it becomes life threatening, to the police and when they do, thanks to feminist training on d/v issues - men are still arrested in recorded numbers despite being the victim.
I must make a serious correction to my last post. Instead of saying men have been "raised" problematically, I should have said "socialized". This is because this process is not so much passed parent to son as it is a combination of that, family friends, peers, and in particular the media. I never met a straight-line agenda I could totally embrace. This includes feminism. The people on this video show you why. They are horrible excuses for feminists, and we should be ashamed of them.
Good for you noddysmiley. You actually make sense, unlike others around here.
Mathewskarl, while you are certainly correct about women being far from perfect and men not being complete pariahs (I myself get uncomfortable when someone thinks I'm suspect because I'm a large male!!) it would be nothing short of delusion to really think that women are 'just as violent'. Men have been raised problematically, and some transcend it and some don't. WAY too many men are pieces of shit bullies.
The fat bitch at 0:38 is just jealous that no one wants to fuck her.
4ingP 5 months ago
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Feminism is the most devilish propaganda of hate,lie and hysteria ever seen in all History. Their goal is to give a frightening image of men to women so that the latter be left with no protectors at all.
I am a woman and I personnaly hate with alll my heart and soul the way those agents of hell constantly malign the males we are supposed to LOVE.
Hit the road infamous feminists
framboise595 7 months ago
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framboise595 7 months ago
It cannot be assumed that lizardmen are bound to be an asset to lounge life, or that the presence of overlizards in their designated family unit is necessarily a means to social harmony and breeding.
crowbarblue 1 year ago
RADAR shows that women commit 71% of all DV. Get bent, feminazi liars with your shaming language! Maybe some of these men can't get their memories of psychotic wives out of their heads. Take your conformism elsewhere!
EvilsOfFeminism 1 year ago
Feminists are fools. They run around sniping of young boys balls then complain that there are no real men left. Yeah that plan was well thought out. The furnace of our society ceased to produce real men along time ago. Fortunately one of the few upsides to war is that combat has a tendency to force boys to become men or get shattered between the anvil of truth and the hammer of decision. So there is hope. It is a shame that so many boys and good men must die in the process though :(
Hunter69D 1 year ago
To any feminists out there. Question for ya.
Femists groups are the ones (and only ones) constantly fighting AGAINST reforming paternity fraud laws. Mind if I ask, why do you feel it's fair for a woman to literally be able to "pick and choose" which man is financially responsible to pay child support to her? If you advocate feminism, then this shouldn't be a difficult question to answer.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants good question I like also to know the answer of it...
Kenshiroit 1 year ago
@Kenshiroit Paternity fraud hurts (first and foremost) the child, the bilogical father, the fathers parents (grandparents), financially destroys the non biological "role model" father, hurts his family....... and the only one who benefiets is the mother... and she only benefiets financially.
Any woman whose a 2010 self proclaimed "feminist" is questionable at best. They should be ashamed for contributing to destroying so many lives. Not ONE "feminist" i've asked this has been able ot answer.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants I know and I agree with 100%
If people care for the wellbein of they'r children, they should be per default against paternity fraud. Who do not agree is because they have other agendas.
Kenshiroit 1 year ago
Thank you for calling attention to the evils of feminism. We need to keep getting the word out about this.
EvilsOfFeminism 1 year ago
I agreed on everything up until you mentioned family values
uaenruotel 1 year ago
large number. ok, just saw you posted another link dealing with US.... But if single mother households are at such high numbers, and the child spends so much more time with their mother, fathers do not have the opportunity to abuse the child to the same extend as the mother has. Or are all those single households merely feminists fault again?
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka I don't know that feminists are at fault for this. that wasn't my point. I'm just pointing out that the statistics regarding child abuse perpetrated by women don't make it into the public consciousness, but psa's etc. addressing DV / child abuse almost universally depict the perpetrators as men, and the victims as women/children. Since it's not representative of the facts, it's ideological propaganda which serves to distort public opinion, specifically of men. that's misandry.
2ravens2wolves 1 year ago
@2ravens2wolves
If all things are the way they are presented in your argument and if I don´t get to take other aspects in consideration (dimention of abuse, form of abuse (sexual abuse is far more perpetrated by man I saw), or other structural factors) which I haven´t figured now: well, then I´d have no problem stating I am on your side. Those facts should then be taken to the public at a larger extend. Don´t want to have misinformation spreading...
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka you might look up ifeminists-dot-com, a feminist group that acknowledges misandry and challenges some of the prevailing myths produced by the radical element within late 20th feminism.
2ravens2wolves 1 year ago
@2ravens2wolves absolutely. ifeminism is ok in most MRA's books, because they do recognise misandry, they don't blame men for it (and everything wrong in the world) and they do acknowledge feminism has gotten out of hand.
videodads 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka Let's see, who promoted divorce by pushing for women to be financially rewarded for kicking the man out of the house? Yeah! It certainly wasn't MRA's doing that.
I love the way you try to justify women's abuses of children... Let's see if it works in other ways, "Only men have penises, so that's why rape happens".
videodads 1 year ago
@videodads
I disagree on the matter that feminism is responsible for families braking up. Feminism just opened the door for women to leave their husband if he is in fact a jerk.
And I don´t justify children´s abuse! But if 40% of children are abused in motherly single households, then the other 60% are the ones which can only be conclusive. 50 of that 60% then are blamed on men, which is a lot. Women can also rape, so your penis argument is dropped.
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayan Wrong, it opened the door to be REWARDED for divorcing men whether he is a jerk or not. It allows women to hide behind children and bleed a man dry or even in some cases, drive him to suicide.
It is good that you can look at raw data and draw conclusions about it... Your sexism lies in that you only do so when said raw data paints women badly (child abuse). You see data painting men as bad and say "see, men are evil - it says so here" and offer not a single idea as to why.
videodads 1 year ago 2
@videodads
Let me illustrate: If there were only black people on an island, no white man was capable of abusing children there except for tourism or a weekendly visit. Your conclusion would be: Black people are the abusive ones, while I say we need to take in consideration matters of time and space as well. If no man was ever placed next to a woman there wouldn´t be the phenomena of rape (excluding same gender assaults). If the man isn´t there too often, he can´t abuse the child. Simple as that
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayan Yes I fully understand your point. As I said above, it's good you can obviously deduce information from raw data... shame you choose not to when raw data paints men badly, instead you simply use it as 'proof' that men are inferior to women and should be blamed for everything wrong.
videodads 1 year ago
Are you honestly that ignorant? You really think antiquelens wanted "proof" that there once was violence inflicted by women? OF COURSE it happens and no feminist I know has EVER stated anything that dumb. However Antiquelens wanted hard facts and studies that show that the majority of domestic violence was inflicted by women (like the video suggests). Looking forward to a reply that makes any kind of sense.
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka the video did not say women commit the majority of DV, the video stated that mothers commit more child abuse than men, and asked why children are not protected (eg VAWA = women / why no VACA or better, VAPA = People)? It also stated that men are the primary recipients of generic violence (from men AND women)so why are the majority victims ignored in favour the least affected?
Get your reading specs on next time.
mathewskarl 1 year ago 7
@mathewskarl
ok, so the video states something similar. My question remains: Where does that obscure statistic come from? Funny thing nobody has an answer to that.
I don´t know too much about protecting institutions in the US, I´m European. Can´t argue on that topic.
I admit that your reply at least made sense, which is pleasantly surprising considering the content of this video. Oh well, in real life, feminism wins anyways!
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka I'm also European, well English to be precise. However, misandry promoters (feminists) are pushing for similar in other countries like England and India etc. Why do they pretend only one specific group of victims are worthy of protection? Isn't that the very definition of sexism they *pretend* to fight against?
Try this for an idea:
tiny dot cc/z11lygd842
videodads 1 year ago
@videodads
Simple answer: They don´t! In the way i consider myself to be a feminist I can assure you I don´t intend to promote women´s rights only but anything that leads to equality of rights. In Germany for example (as well as in many other countries) we cerntainly have to strenghen father´s rights.But,you see,feminism started off with their right primarily (can´t blame em for that), now that some structures change there are new issues to be dealt with.Can´t figure out what your "idea" means
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka But they DO!
Lying by pretending they don't promote that only women need protection. Once uponatime they had equal protection, now women get superior protection than men & children. Do you realise if you accidentally run over a woman and kill her, you do more time in jail than if you ran & killed a man regardless of your sex?
Women are ALWAYS more protected - and much of it is thanks to feminists promoting blatant sexism translating to 'men are inferior'.
videodads 1 year ago
@videodads
The problem I got with your statement is: I consider myself a feminist, so I might tell you what I believe, and I tell you how I perceive other feminists. You do not show me evidence and just tell me what you think they stand for. As I said feminism started since there was an urge for women´s rights. And the way I as a german male see it, women are still oppressed in some serious topics (prostitution, pornography, abortion rights for example)
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka you have watched a video filled with sexist statements by feminists and been given a URL with government data on mothers abusing children - and claim you haven't seen any evidence? Like I said - get your reading glasses on, please.
Women who choose to prostitute themselves or act in pornographic flicks, have the same rights as other individuals. Women have abortion rights - men have zero reproductive rights and very, very few birth control options.
videodads 1 year ago
@videodads
As I said, I couldn´t use that URL. But now we talk on the topic: The choice to being a prostitute is basically not the same as the choice to becoming a teacher for example. The free will and consentual thesises are but a myth in this context: Watch "Belladonna interview from Prime Time".
Man can use a condom, can´t they? And I hope you don´t want the potential father to have any legal right within abortion. It´s not their body, so they are out of the decision.
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka I have to go sleep now, some of us have jobs. However, before I go, I'll say this:
I note you have ignored just about everything I have put forward and focused on ONE area where you think you have the moral highground. How about identifying some of the points I've raised? And how about asking, "If feminism is about equality - why does it ignore areas where men receive inferior treatment? Why does feminism focus exclusively on women while pretending to be for **equality**?"
videodads 1 year ago
Yes, men can use a condom - but as I said - it's limited. If she doesn't want him using one, he cannot hide the fact from her. BUT she can use a diaphragm or the pill without his knowledge, she can 'forget' to take the pill without his knowledge, and so on. Women have ALL the power where reproductive rights are concerned, as if men are of no value to the equation. How sexist!!
If men have NO input on abortion - then men should have a legal equalizer... financial abortion.
videodads 1 year ago
@videodads
Sigh: feminism is historically based primarily concerned with women´s rights. Now the area of concern slowly widens (men are left behind in topics they never felt being left behind before), so feminism, as well as society as a whole, has to adress the new topics as well. This might take a while, as it does with society (which is def not to be blamed on the feminists). And how is it sexist when it´s biological fact women give birth? There´s the line... Have a nice sleep anyway
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@mathewskarl According to the national center for health statistics, 40% of the children born in the states were by single women (in 2007) & this number has constantly been on the rise over the past 15 years. While feminists advocate single motherhood, do you REALLY think it's just a coincidence that child obesiety is an epidemic, our kids are getting less educated, and they're more prone to drug abuse at a younger age? These women don't care about anyone but themselves. Not even kids.
jjrants 1 year ago
@mathewskarl Good question man
YoungnRomantic 7 months ago
@ayanamicurekafka Australian Institute of Health and Welfare (AIHW) and Administration for Children and Families (ACF) stats. for 2007 56.5% of abuse and neglect perpetrated by women. 2004 57.8% abuse and neglect by women. 38% of abused children live in single mother households. The report's findings reveal 39 per cent of the 1,505 substantiated cases of child maltreatment between between 2007 and 2008 were perpetrated by parents, with mothers accounting for 73% of parent-on-child cases
2ravens2wolves 1 year ago
@2ravens2wolves
I will look at that report in detail soon. I already saw that any internet source on this topic was provided by "men´s rights movement" and links to the studies themselves were neglected at this hour. But it´s funny that one takes a study from Australia whereas, well, this ain´t Australia here. But yeah, it´s an industrial country, I see that. Still if 38% of the abused children are in motherly households alone, that alone should explain why the perpetrators were women to a
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka wow. the both the american and australian studies were conducted and published by the governments of those countries, not by an MRA group.
2ravens2wolves 1 year ago
@2ravens2wolves
I never said they weren´t. If I google the Australian study I am directed to MRA sites mainly, plus some other link who don´t work anymore. That´s all I meant to say; would be rather goofy to assume both studies were faked by the all too mighty MRA. I´ll leave that logic of accusation of false studies, iniciated by the feminist lobby, to you. If there´s a study you don´t like, just say it´s a feminist study.... Not my cup of tea though.
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
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2ravens2wolves 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka incidentally the stats are very similar in the states, google US Children's Bureau "child maltreatment 2008" report.
2ravens2wolves 1 year ago
What a stinky video. I can´t believe I keep on reading about feminism being "indoctrinating" "misinforming" and such, yet I see this video which takes Dworkin´s quotes fully out of context (which is called "misinforming") and just stating some non-empirical "woman are the aggressive" "facts"...
I, as a male feminist, am truely stunned by this ignorance!
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka Now now, don't talk until a woman talks to you. Know your place; the heels of your superiors.
videodads 1 year ago 3
@videodads
Don´t know how to put this, sexist bast***, but I am in fact a male being. And what a fu**** up reply is this? Good luck provoking somebody; I am soooo beyond this. Man, this is tiring to have the same lame wannabe-male donkeys... You should form a group: "Angry manly manman ignoramouses"
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka yeah, and you should have your own group too "balls on a silver platter for your superiors"
I have a magazine I think you'd be interested in:
tinyurl dotcom/3x2osxc
videodads 1 year ago 3
What does this video has to do with feminism? This is clearly NOT feminism, it's misandry.
Assault912 1 year ago
@Assault912 One and the same judging by the *actions* of feminism in the last few decades.
videodads 1 year ago
@videodads I am sure most of the real feminists don't hate men, just some women wear the name of "feminist" obviously they are not feminist and use the name to hate men. There is a big difference between feminism and misandry
Assault912 1 year ago
@Assault912 As I said, I take feminism by it's actions - not it's claims. The KKK could claim to be about ending racism all they want, but we hold them accountable by their actions not their words.
videodads 1 year ago
"Yes Matthew...if you state anything here that DOES not support feminism but rathe questions it...you hate and are afraid....of women! "How does this BS start?
Abobojo 1 year ago
good video...someday day the truth will get out...
johnnyboy39 1 year ago
I consider myself a feminist and I disagree with the majority of the statements made by "feminists" in this video.
Not all feminists are manhaters. I say that most women these days and most men are feminists and don't even realize it. A feminist is someone who believes in equality. People who use feminism as an excuse to hate men in my opinion are not truly feminists.
fabifly 1 year ago
@fabifly that may be so, but I judge a movement on it's actions - not it's claims. And the majority of feminist actions are male-hostile and deceptive.
videodads 1 year ago
if you hate the guy who is talking all the crap about feminism then hit up my channel by the way icyborgs real name is zachary quirroz and i got so much shit you could talk about him on my page
firechipmunk777 1 year ago
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iCyborg85 1 year ago
In response to 2:06...
“The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
-Margaret Sanger
-Feminist advocate
-Founder of ‘Planned Parenthood’
TruthinessDotCom 1 year ago
Notice how all these "women" shown here in the pics are ugly as hell? xD
cr4yv3n 1 year ago 8
@cr4yv3n still they blame men why they're not fucked properly
TheVerySpecialThommy 1 year ago
@cr4yv3n Feminists are terrible beings outside and inside...
leostomicek 1 year ago 2
@leostomicek ...No they aren't. They have been lied to and for whatever reason, they have chosen to believe what the feminists tell them. They feel empowered by it. God loves those women, even the ones who don't acknowledge HIS existence. Feminism is not the answer for women. Men and women are equal in personal worth and value but we were designed to have different roles within the family structure. Men who abuse women are wrong but misandry is equally wrong.
fairlightdawn112 3 months ago
Not gonna watch the vid. But if you're anti-feminist or equalist you're good in my book 8D.
denerlille2 1 year ago 2
It is spelled 'Msinformation or Ms_information.
proudguy 1 year ago 2
That pig in the beginning wishes to be raped.
The thing about feminism is that is so fucking boring, and not even women, at least hot ones care for shit. So good luck with that dikes
locozito 1 year ago
Feminism since the 1980's is about female supremacy by privileged, middle-aged white women.
sting444 1 year ago 4
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This is a man who is afraid of women.
mingtonfuller 1 year ago
And you are a person afraid of honest, open debate; instead preferring to rely on dishonest shaming tactics.
The above video has nothing to do with fear of women; women are a sex. It has everything to do with disdain for feminism; an ideology which promotes misandry and misinformation... just like you have in your comment.
mathewskarl 1 year ago 7
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@mathewskarl fuck you cunt
tothatextent 1 year ago
@mathewskarl I'm a Anti Feminist too and have been called a misogynist for it so Don't be ashamed of it man.
YoungnRomantic 7 months ago
@mingtonfuller let's say he is afraid of women, doesn't that imply that he deserves protection. men are afraid of women not becuae they are women, men are afraind of women becuase of the system that has been put in place that allows women to maninpulate, lie, and still a man's child. men feaer for there children at the hands of feminism, men fear for their liberity at the hands of freedom.
ORVX 1 year ago 2
@mingtonfuller regardless, he is not the one who made a troll acount just to say some pathetic shit lke that, it not he tha tshould be afraid of women, it is poeple like you that should be afaird of what is coming, your bullshit will not be tolerated much longer,
ORVX 1 year ago 2
@ORVX Your a pussy i think that women were put on this earth to serve us men, after all WHO came first out of adam and eve actually WHO came OUT of adams rib? hmm? ok if ur not biblical who hunted for the cavemen? not the women, oh no, it was the MEN i think women need to stop FUCKING around with all this civil rights and shit and just PLEASE their man i think this world would be SO much easier if they fed us, washed our clothes (AND FOLDED THEM) and fucked us when ever we say to :)
iCyborg85 1 year ago
@iCyborg85 u sound like a real tool, my guess it you're a femenist troll trying to make MRA's look bad, if not send me a pm if you really want to find out how big a pussy I am.
ORVX 1 year ago
@iCyborg85 YES WE CAN!!!!
LethalKarnage 1 year ago
@mingtonfuller
Can you blame men that are afraid of women nowadays?
MrDissidiaFan 6 months ago
when i see that arrogant misandrist slob Dworkin I get shivers down my back bone :(
shazam20007 1 year ago 2
@shazam20007 She died in 2005, so we won't have her to kick around anymore.
CCRoxtar 1 year ago
whoh those women are like that because they are probably the ugliest things ive ever seen in my life and theyve probably been rejected by every man and thats what you get from a life of jealousy LOL
steveo20007 1 year ago
Feminist are as Christian Wirth, Joseph Goebbels, Alfred Rosemberg...
REVOLUTION!!!!
fabriziopiludu 2 years ago
I will anser your question mate.
The woman said: "UNDER PATRIARCHY".
Not that men are genetically programmed to rape or that it is beyond their control.
She is talking about a system, reinforced in a myriad of ways.
rudderandrock 2 years ago
But when you attack patriarchy in an effort to replace it with patriarchy, you automatically declare that the moment a men is in charge, that he'll be abusive, corrupt and oppressive and that somehow women are incapable of being any and all of the above. Patriarchy was never the problem- machismo is and it continues to be a problem in the push towards a matriarchy, with it in fact becoming a core element of it.
Bowspearer 1 year ago
We need VAMA. I'd be fine with VAWA if we had a VAMA.
greenalkalinerain 2 years ago 2
Personally I'd rather we had VAPA rather than both VAWA and VAMA. Even having both, you're still bringing gender politics into domestic and child violence. Awareness needs to change so that people see abuse as something which is inflicted upon people by other people.
Bowspearer 1 year ago
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what a lovely pile of shit.
it would be nice if you could supply some links to this apparent abuse women do unto children.
have fun living in your nuclear family bubble, oh wait, you probably hate women.
antiquelens 2 years ago
a quick google on any of the quotes will offer more than a handful of sources. As for hating women, that's a relatively typical and neanderthal response from someone who is intimidated by the concept of men having true equality (as oppose the feminist concept of 'selective equality' where only equality which benefits females is sought after).
If you can supply a logical argument, I'm all ears. But if your only resort is to insult & stamp your feet, you know where the door is.
mathewskarl 2 years ago
@antiquelens feminism is misadry
halcyon180 2 years ago 9
@antiquelens You're a misandrist- pure & simple. You want an example- I quote my life story: 23 years of psychological abuse at the hands of female family members including my own mother from the age of 6 & an 18 month long ordeal of domestic violence at the hands of my girlfriend, & I've spoken to many men with similar stories to mine.
The reason you don't hear that much from us publicly is because women like you villainise and dismiss us because we take your propaganda & turn it on its head.
Bowspearer 2 years ago 9
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@Bowspearer
I don't hate men. Nice try though.
antiquelens 2 years ago
Oh really, then explain to me AS A VICTIM OF WOMEN for most of my life, why you treat my plight & the plight of other men as "what a lovely pile of shit."
The reality is that you ARE a hardcore misandrist who views men only as abusers & treats any of us who come forward as battered men as perpetual liars- your own words saw as much.
As one of countless men who unlike most others, refuses to suffer their shame in silence, I tell you your attitude is as bad as calling a raped woman a cheap slut!
Bowspearer 2 years ago 11
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@Bowspearer
Sorry that happened to you. No one should have things horrible done to them. I don't believe i have ever said that.
antiquelens 2 years ago
And yet that's effectively what you did say:
"what a lovely pile of shit.
it would be nice if you could supply some links to this apparent abuse women do unto children. "
You've effectively claimed with this statement tht it's a practical impossibility for a women to be capable of abuse.
According to this logic, as a woman is incapable of abuse, the victim not only must have been at fault, but by speaking out, they're falsely acusing an innocent person, so they're effectively a depraved liar.
Bowspearer 2 years ago 11
Then you go on to say:
""have fun living in your nuclear family bubble, oh wait, you probably hate women."
Again, this winds up being the standard catchcry of feminists when the inequalities are pointed out, which is ironically as depraved as those who callously and libelly dismiss those fighting for genuine equality for women.
Bowspearer 2 years ago 11
You'll find that intelligent men who oppose feminism are all for true equality, however when you have an ideology that claims to focus on equality but instead attacks one gender to the point where abusers are sheltered, the brutal murder of children in the tens of millions (resons aside, the methodology allone makes mengler look like a rank ameteur) and victims are dismissed and even villainsed for speaking out, then the movement clealry isn't about equality at all.
Bowspearer 2 years ago 11
One of the founding mothers of the women's movement, Mary Wolstonecroft, put it best when she stated that for the women's movement to truly be about equality, it had to make sure that in advancing its own rights it did not violate the fundamental rights of others. Yet in areas such as DV policy and abortion it does exactly that.
Bowspearer 2 years ago 13
You said you don't think what you said what you were saying about male abuse victims, yet the rhetoric you were spouting clearly was voicing that.
Now if what you think and the rhetoric you were spouting are such polar oposites in such a fundamental issue of human rights, then isn't it logically time to question just how much the rhetoric fits in with what you truly believe?
Bowspearer 2 years ago 8
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Wow, that's a lot of comments, Bows. Obsess much?
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
Wow, way to prove the whole MRA argument right that the vst majority of times that a man brings up the inequalities they face in the world that they are personally attacked the moment feminists can't counter their arguments.
Bowspearer 2 years ago 20
You do seem kind of crazy, you know.
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
No, I just see what you're blinded to.
Bowspearer 2 years ago
And yet you type things like "you said you don't think what you said what you were saying about." And you spend A LOT of time typing shit like that. If that's not crazy, it should be.
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
No, that's intelligently responding to a double standard, when the double stand is sick and depraved. At the same time, it's giving people the benefit of the doubt when they claim that they never meant, or don't believe they said, when they had clearly just said it.
Bowspearer 2 years ago
If you don't believe that social movements and society in general, can and do at times, indoctrinate people to the point where they get fed belief systems that they either never question, or are trained not to question, then the crazy person is yourself, or at best, merely extremely ignorant and naive.
Bowspearer 2 years ago
Call me what you will, I still think our society would be a lot better off if working mothers had access to affordable, quality day care.
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
I happen to agree that they should- at the same time though, that doesn't change the harm which feminism causes in its persecution complex driven tunnel vision or the double standards it fosters. Or do you believe that battered men and abused children should be automatically blamed for their abuse the moment the abuser is a woman?
Bowspearer 2 years ago
@antiquelens looks up Collette Harris, a woman who beat her toddler son to death, he died as the result of 80 distinct injuries and bruises. She also is believed to have shut her son's hand in an oven door, burning it seriously. Then look up Mayra Lizbeth Rosales, who was charged and convicted of the murder of her two year old nephew, also a death by physical abuse. Then Monika Paczkowska, who beat her 3 year old daughter to death for wetting her bed. she died of 70 distinct injuries. etc etc.
2ravens2wolves 1 year ago
@2ravens2wolves
congrats on researching 3 names on the internet! You have now fully proven that women are indeed mean beings. How the **** can you honestly believe those 3 names are representative to ANYTHING?
"3 white people (Tim Dumb, John Ignorance, Seth Idiot) once killed a baby in a cruel way", so by your "logic" i come to the conclusion that white male people are bastards!? So ignorant...
btw: We miss you so much, antiquelens!!!
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@ayanamicurekafka Congratulations on your cheap, condescending tone ! Snide, shaming language, the common place feminist responses to any form of criticism or dissent. My citation of 3 women abusing children was a direct response to Anitquelens request to see "the apparent abuse women do unto children" I supplied a factual source of information on the subject which makes me "so ignorant...." ? are you joking? It was not intended to prove all women are like that. It proves that it does happen.
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ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
@2ravens2wolves
Are you honestly that ignorant? You really think antiquelens wanted "proof" that there once was violence inflicted by women? OF COURSE it happens and no feminist I know has EVER stated anything that dumb. However Antiquelens wanted hard facts and studies that show that the majority of domestic violence was inflicted by women (like the video suggests). Looking forward to a reply that makes any kind of sense.
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@2ravens2wolves
Are you honestly that ignorant? You really think antiquelens wanted "proof" that there once was violence inflicted by women? OF COURSE it happens and no feminist I know has EVER states anything that dumb. However Antiquelens wanted hard facts and studies that show that the majority of domestic violence was inflicted by women (like the video suggests). Looking forward to a reply that makes any kind of sense.
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@2ravens2wolves
Are you honestly that ignorant? You really think antiquelens wanted "proof" that there once was violence inflicted by women? OF COURSE it happens and no feminist I know has EVER stated anything that dumb. However Antiquelens wanted hard facts and studies that show that the majority of domestic violence was inflicted by women (like the video suggests). Looking forward to a reply that makes any kind of sense.
ayanamicurekafka 1 year ago
Feminism is the ultimate disaster to society...kindly watch
'a new Baby for Christmas' on my channel to see the actual results of this madness in the western world today,
amerrychristmas 2 years ago 4
I don't dislike feminism. It's FEMINISTS I dislike. They've twisted everything around so it's all a messed-up charade.
Can anyone tell me what feminism is anyway? There's:-
2nd wave fem, 3rd wave fem, post-fem, anarchic-fem, militant-fem, seperatist-fem, green-fem, eco-fem, liberal-fem, radical-fem, marxist-fem, socialist-fem, there's even post-colonial fem, the list goes on...
What is feminism? I'm not being difficult, I actually don't know!
Gary190tube 2 years ago 10
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Do you think you'd be comfortable with your sexuality now if not for the feminists who've preceded you?
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
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by the way you should've put the name of feminist who you are quoting, next to the quote, otherwise people could think you made those quotes up yourself. Needs to be verifiable.
josht246 2 years ago
the quotes can be verified on google, word for word.... anyway, there is a picture of each feminist who said each quote directly above the quotes... so no need for names.
mathewskarl 2 years ago
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u have to realise though that although these feminists did say things which were untrue and misandry, sexual violence is still widespread and the ratio of reported rapes to convicted is too small. Sexual violence is still a problem, and so is unequal pay. Women are still not equal in many other ways too, so feminism is still relevant as it seeks to establish more rights and equality for women. Don't judge the whole movement to be misandry based on some quotes by dworkin or mackinnon.
josht246 2 years ago
No, I judge the whole movement based on the icon leaders AND the actions of the feminist groups. For example, most feminists will claim women earn less than men, but somehow, 'forget' to mention that women's choices are the primary reason for the difference. They also 'forget' to mention that in the inner-cities, women outearn men. Same with D/V, feminists make claims and 'forget' to mention pertinent information which clearly changes everything. This 'selective amnesia' is a big problem.
mathewskarl 2 years ago
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And how about affordable quality daycare? The right wingers can't stop picketing outside Planned Parenthood, but if they all became babysitters instead, a lot fewer women would choose to terminate.
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
Feminists and women screw themselves. When women go out into the workforce to have a career, they need to hire another woman from the working class (a maid) to take care of their children. So women are now in the business of oppressing other women. And who upstairs smoking a cigar sees it
shmiggen 2 years ago 9
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There's an easy solution for that, and feminists are asking for it: Quality affordable daycare. You know, kind of like they have in Europe and every other industrialized nation of the world except for the U.S.
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
You've just reinforced my argument. It's a catch-22. The only way you'd put your child in daycare is if you made significantly more than what the service was charging, otherwise it would be pointless. Daycare is about $800-$1000/month in most industrialised countries. That's fine for wealthy women. However, the vast majority of women are not wealthy. Hence, feminism serves the interests of wealthy women only.
shmiggen 2 years ago 6
WRONG! Do you really think every working woman is a feminist? Are you nuts? Do you really think every working woman is a mother with children who need constant supervision? Workers who are childless or whose children are older or who have other family members available to watch their children also have their interests served by having a job. You don't actually know any women, do you?
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
@shmiggen Actually, feminists are constantly fighting AGAINST reforming paternity fruad laws. That being said, even a woman making a modest income can live damned well if she can pick and choose the man to pay her child support.
jjrants 1 year ago
Wow, that's a lot of thumbs down for quality affordable daycare. I guess you like Mom home, barefoot and pregnant? Or would you like to put the kids in cages?
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
What does that have to do with day care? I thought you were talking about women who wanted daycare, not childless women. Of course not all women are feminists. Actually, feminism has many different subgroups, like lesbian feminism, marxist feminism, radical feminism, etc etc. Daycare merely exploits working class women.
shmiggen 2 years ago
Daycare EXPLOITS women? Well, I guess we're lucky there's so little exploitation going on in the U.S., then, aren't we -- unlike those hideously exploitative countries in Western Europe where they have quality, affordable daycare.
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
Well, it's a great idea, but like everything, one must read the contract. You will have to pay the nanny or daycare provider enough money so that it is worthwhile to do that kind of job. In addition, your job will have to be profitable enough so that it is worth your while to go to work and pay for daycare, correct? What about the women who work in the daycare? What kind of salary should she get? Who will pay her salary?
shmiggen 2 years ago
@shmiggen Who pays for public schools here in the U.S.? In Europe, the more civilized countries, with the lower crime rates, the lower teen birth rates, the better health indices, and the overall higher standards of living have quality, affordable, developmentally-appropriate, publicly funded educational facilities for children of ALL ages, not just children age 5 or older. If they can do it, why can't we?
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
I agree with you. In fact, in Quebec, they do have universal daycare, which costs a mere seven dollars a day for the consumer. Some believe it works in Quebec because of the French fear of being demographically denuded. There has been resistance in the rest of Canada, which is even more liberal than the USA, because of a resistance to increased taxation. I'm in favour of it; it's just that there are so many socially conservative people in North America, including women, who will resist.
shmiggen 2 years ago
Women who don't want to be or can't afford to be mothers shouldn't be having children.
Stop deluding yourselves into thinking you can "have it all" and then begging for a handout once you discover that you can't hack it without a man.
OthelloCarmellow 2 years ago
@OthelloCarmellow I couldn't agree with you more. That's why I support the right to abortion on demand, as well as medically accurate sex education and easy access to birth control. Women who can't afford children shouldn't be having them. Hear hear.
MsMirrorMirror 2 years ago
As long as it is not taxpayer provided I am with you on that one.
shmiggen 1 year ago
Oh, by all means. If a woman is too poor to afford an abortion, by all means make her have a child.
MsMirrorMirror 1 year ago
Wake up dude, women can have it all because theyve already turned men into sperm doning slaves. If you dont do as told and she leaves she will take the kids and with that your house, half your belongings and you will under prison threat be forced to work 18 years to support children turned to hate you by the woman and society. Feminists say boys and men are stupid and the stupidity that got us here was the men being chivalresque to all women under the misconception women were not evil.
Smackbox 1 year ago
I'm awake, I just can't relate with men who agree to marry and/or impregnate American women. I don't even know how men get sucked into that pit anymore.
Getting laid and using condoms is easy. There's no reason to be in that situation.
OthelloCarmellow 1 year ago
Good to hear you are awake. Many others are not. There is a huge lack of information. I'll agree with you on this "Women who don't want to be or can't afford to be mothers shouldn't be having children. " Yet development in west is so that either a single man will be enslaved and/or taxes will be taken from all men and given to the mother so that she can raise the child without a father if she chooses to. This is unnatural, inhumane evil. Punishing all men, the children and the specific fathers.
Smackbox 1 year ago
"Yet development in west is so that either a single man will be enslaved and/or taxes will be taken from all men and given to the mother so that she can raise the child without a father if she chooses to."
My thoughts exactly. That was the motivation for my original comment.
We gotta stand up.
OthelloCarmellow 1 year ago
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Some good quotes like the one about 'beating a man to a pulp' etc is blatantly just anger at men for abusing women and is unnecessary hating. She is just tryin to make a point about what men do to women. Also, 'under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman' - this is blatantly false and is callin every man a rpaist or exploiter.
josht246 2 years ago
I think that people in the history have been abused, manipulated and unrespected by other people (women and men). Even all, you can't ignore that in the past and even in the present there are many women who have BIG problems of inequality respect the men in stuff like job salaries, marriage problems, maternity, personal appereance and stereothypes by gender.
Cami18star 2 years ago
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Red0660 2 years ago
Feminism, like political correctness is nothing more than a public urinal against which we can relieve iurselves whenever we please
outdated, discredited and irrelevant to the post-socialist (nu labour) era that will be built here in the UK when tony blair's evil legacy is dismantled forever feminism has breathed its last....few will miss it when it is gone and those who might are irrelevant
good riddance to very bad rubbish
WeAreTheBritish 2 years ago 18
You know, it all comes down to whoever wants to define feminism. I'm well aware of the misandry and how most mainstream non-extremist feminists act as if it doesn't exist. But the women's movement has brought us a long way from Father Knows Best in the 1950s. Let's face it. It's a mixed bag. You can't come up with one simple definition of what feminism is. Defining feminism is like defining God. No two people seem to agree.
prschuster 2 years ago 2
Bravo, pumpkin! I could have hardly have said it better myself. Furthermore, I might venture a guess (based on my internship at a womens shelter 's DV counseling center) that "unreported cases of dv" also include quite a sizable number of female survivors who don't report, sometimes out of justified extreme fear of their attacker. We men are no worse or better. Just socialized 'differently'. And that needs to change.
nietspe2008 2 years ago 5
We also need to 'socialize' the D/V industry (you know, money making machine) to accept that women are also abusive - not just men, as feminist groups pretend.
mathewskarl 2 years ago
I should also add, if men really were getting beating up far more then women in domestic violence, and they "tend to not report it", it is only thanks your own prevalent, stupid patriarchal values where it is somehow wrong for men to admit being hurt, especially by a female. So "feminist training" my ass. You only have those tough guy macho ideals to blame, because honestly, I would consider it just as detrimental a problem if that many men were being hurt in dv and no one even believed them.
pumpkins0 2 years ago
Actually, repeatedly studies confirm that women initiate violence slightly more than men (at least within intimate relationships)...
And why am I not surprised to see a feminist blaming men - even for women's wrong doings. This is typical feminist behaviour. And while you say in one post "don't blame all feminists" you do precisely what all other feminists do; blame men even for women's actions & decisions.
Tell me, has a woman ever done a single thing wrong, ever?
mathewskarl 2 years ago
I've never seen such studies so idk. But I won't deny that some women can be just as violent as some men. I'm sorry if you think I'm only blaming men for dv, but maybe you should've read my reply more thoroughly because that was definitely not my intention. My point was only that if men are reporting it even LESS than women do I think its their own rigid patriarchal ideals that are to blame. Women don't have any similar ideals to make it harder for them.
And yes, many women do wrong too.
pumpkins0 2 years ago
And what is 'the patriarchy'? It's the "feminist theory" (i.e. not fact) that men have control, basically.
So, blaming the Patriarchy, is blaming men. Don't cop out. And despite your denial, feminist groups DO 'educate' police departments on d/v, and they do as you do - blame men.
Thanks for acknowledging that some women can do bad... I must frame this.
mathewskarl 2 years ago
Ignorance is a tool that feminists loves to use. Male are just as much as victims as women are. In fact studies show that is DV cases against women 70% percent of the women was the aggressor. Meaning that She threw the first hit, and the man hit her back. This is because if you hit a woman in self defense it is a crime. Also I have noticed in your comments you used a bunch of fallacies. Like there is no true Scotsman fallacy.
hpufo 2 years ago 5
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Where are the studies? Back it up man.. And it better not come from some anti-feminist site dripping with pointless hate and "men are better than womyn" crap... And a fallacy? Give me a break. The definition of feminism has never been "to hate a man". A couple of bad apple "feminists" DO NOT speak for all the rest of us. They're not in control. Exaggerating the amount of corrupt feminists that are out there (and how much they actually affect anything) doesn't help Anyone, men or women.
pumpkins0 2 years ago
You can go right down the line and list EVERY feminist leader and somehow, none of what they say is 'real feminism'. I wonder how feminism has survived all these years if the feminist leaders have NEVER spoken for their followers?
dreamweaver4121 2 years ago 4
And since you mentioned it, Pumpkin....if feminism isn't about hating men, then why the need for the term 'womyn'?
An ex-friend of mine hit me with that..."man" in "woman" is offensive to her as a feminist, so she wants to be called a "womyn".
Sound like unadulterated, indoctrinated hate to me.
And no, this isn't some quote from some feminist leader "taken out of context"...this was an everygal feminist talking to me personally.
Feminism is a hate-movement. Period.
dreamweaver4121 2 years ago 7
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Well, you should've noticed I only used that term once.
I'll have to be honest and say I never saw feminists using the term "womyn". When I did it was from a couple of guys doing so, which is why I thought it was actually the opposite, that it was some group of guys that made it up because THEY didn't like having that in common. It seemed obvious that they preferred calling women "womyn", not to mention in a very belittling manner. Yknow, like we don't deserve to have the word "man" in there.
pumpkins0 2 years ago
Besides, why are you convinced your ex friend was seething with hatred just because she didn't think the two should be the same? Did you ever bother to ask why exactly she thought that?
I'm guessing, (and I'm not saying I agree with her) that perhaps in her opinion its similar to how people will address everyone as "guys", even when the group being addressed has more females, or are all female. I realize its not the same thing, but I can see how someone else might think of it that way.
pumpkins0 2 years ago
That women is fucking INSANE, not a feminist in any way. You're confusing a few psychos who don't know shit with feminists that are actually trying to improve things. Good job using one or two bad apples to demonize everyone that has ever wanted to help women. Utter bullshit.
Since you're being such a douche, should I just label all other men douches too?
Yeah, and men are more victims of violence because they initiate more violence between themselves. Not because girls are beating them all up.
pumpkins0 2 years ago
The problem is, pumpkins - it's not just "one or two feminists".
Look through the feminists who hold power and influence, authors, politicians, etc. and you'll see - clearly - this is a recurring problem.
And there's a complete difference, as I'm sure you're fully aware, between attacking an ideology (feminism) which men and women can affailiate to - and attacking half the planet's population (men). Feminism already spreads hatred aimed at men.
mathewskarl 2 years ago
So.. you're saying pretty much all feminists that have any influence and power are just a bunch of retarded psychos who think all sex is rape? Obviously anyone that thinks that is wrong in the head, but.. they're not by any means the majority of feminists, or the majority of very influential feminists. Feminists never would have achieved anything if that was the case, they'd only be ridiculed. No voting rights, no reproductive rights, etc. Nothing.
pumpkins0 2 years ago
Feminism doesn't spread hate toward men. You can point out those mentally impotent women who THINK they're feminists all you want, they don't represent feminism and what the rest of women who consider themselves feminists believe. This is not to say that some hate and resentment doesn't exist, but its not directed at the Entire male population. Its at the type of guys who think things like any girl who dares step out of "her place" deserves to be raped and receive a cum "facial", for starters.
pumpkins0 2 years ago
I didn't say all feminists believe this, or that, or the other... So let's not fall into the 'putting words in peoples mouths' game.
However, feminism DOES spread hatred directly squarely at men. Sure, it *might* only refer to 'those guys who think ...she deserves to be raped/facial" - but how often is that 'disclaimer' stated? Very, very rarely.
In this very thread, one of your sisters denies that only 1% of men are criminals and suggests "1% to infinity"... ahuh.
mathewskarl 2 years ago
Well I never thought it needed a 'disclaimer', anytime I've read something that might be a trigger, they usually make it obvious who they're directing the vitriol at, and why or what they think is wrong. But I continuously see people missing the point completely in spite of that, then begins the "oo you're all man-hating lesbian cunts", so I don't know what it takes to stop them from assuming that right away. Pray tell where this wayward "sister" is so I can give her a stern talking to. :P
pumpkins0 2 years ago
Despite the collection of quotes and statistics in this clip, it is biological fact that men's bodies are generally more muscular and physically dangerous than those of women. The vast majority of domestic violence cases (at least here in the UK) are of men abusing women. Although this is much more difficult to prove, there is a general assumption that until recent times, most husbands considered having sex as their right - it is known that this attitude still prevails.
TheEastFifeLoon 2 years ago
You forgot a very important word in there, TheEast...
"reported"
Your line should have read: "The vast majority of **reported** domestic violence cases (at least here in the UK) are of men abusing women."
It is well known that men tend not to report d/v, even when it becomes life threatening, to the police and when they do, thanks to feminist training on d/v issues - men are still arrested in recorded numbers despite being the victim.
mathewskarl 2 years ago
I must make a serious correction to my last post. Instead of saying men have been "raised" problematically, I should have said "socialized". This is because this process is not so much passed parent to son as it is a combination of that, family friends, peers, and in particular the media. I never met a straight-line agenda I could totally embrace. This includes feminism. The people on this video show you why. They are horrible excuses for feminists, and we should be ashamed of them.
nietspe2008 2 years ago
Good for you noddysmiley. You actually make sense, unlike others around here.
Mathewskarl, while you are certainly correct about women being far from perfect and men not being complete pariahs (I myself get uncomfortable when someone thinks I'm suspect because I'm a large male!!) it would be nothing short of delusion to really think that women are 'just as violent'. Men have been raised problematically, and some transcend it and some don't. WAY too many men are pieces of shit bullies.
nietspe2008 2 years ago
wat do u say to a woman with 2 black eyes
nothing u already told the bitch twice
kanehotdog14 2 years ago