He makes a textual error...the second time, it should be "Le veau d'or...est vainqueur des dieux", not "est toujours debout". Still, great performance.
Opinions are like as*holes. Everybody has one, and thinks everyone else's stinks. PLEASE shut up your insipid whining and bitching and realize that YOU are not the one on stage being paid megabucks for your voice. Divas.... (segue) I smoked a cigarette with him outside of Carnegie's stage door once. So there!
His French diction is amazingly precise and clear. Many Slavic and Italian singers may have a voice with richer harmonics but they are unable to handle the tricky French sounds.
And René Pape can also sing in Russian, go figure!
I think his diction sucks. It is too open. But it IS very difficult for a bass (I'm not talking about baritones, who unfortunately also are singing this role) to sing the top E flats still maintaining the typical closed french vowels...
I agree with you 100%. Pape is a marvelous singer and actor, have seen him at the Met as Mephistopheles. But I wanted to hear the roar of the basso, like Furlanetto or Ramey or - and here I agree 100% with Morihirosan - the definitive satanic one, Boris Christoff. When he sang "La bas!" you realy knew he meant, "Down there in hell."
Do you really mean that "roar of the basso, like Furlanetto" he is no bass, sorry. Baritone obscuring vocals to sound bass, and he knows it, but Italy is out of basses.
@eegreen What in hell do you expect from a bass? You don't need to be a russian oktavist to be a "true" bass. I bet you are either a frustated baritone or a very cocky basso profondo.
All I meant is that Furlanetto, truely, is not a bass. Rene Pape is... and I have to admit I do notice more power and rage in Furlanetto's interpretation, but I find Pape's one more pleasing because of the color and velvet of the voice.
@eegreen Why not! He's today's leading basso! He's a basso cantante, which is not synonimous of basso-baritono. This is a common misconception. Sadly wikipedia states that. Plus, a basso-baritono STAYS A BASS, unless he deliberately chooses a baritonal reperoire. He's got nothing that makes him similar to a baritone.
@UKbasso22 Furlanetto sang O Isis und Osiris? That's new to me. Anyhow, you should give a try to his Sparafucile and his Fiesco. You'd be surprised. Gorgeous F2s.
@DanyNicola Oh, my fault. I thought you were referring to Rene Pape from the previous comment. I'll have to take a look at the Sparafucile and Fiesco.
Back in 1987 Ramey sang it with Shicoff in Chicago and they brought the house down and now Pape will sing it in Chicago next month with Beczala, should be a good one.
too fast, but still great interpretation. some e-flats are pushed. I guess basses like to sing it in faster then indicated tempo in the score to avoide singing long high notes? and it became tradition to sing it that way. But this aria should sound better with Alegro maestoso and not presto:)
I agree. On his recent CD release, he sings this piece at a MUCH faster tempo. However it doesn't lose any of the effect and I like it at both speeds. Any slower and it would just drag, in my opinion. I think the faster tempo suits the piece well, being that is one of the Devil's arias.
Hm...I think if its that slow, it has more power and the interpret has more options to enjoy the music and bring it better to the audience; it has more power and I don´t think, that a devil wants to kill their opponents quickly; they play with them to show their overwhelming power and strength!:-)
off course finaly tempo is a personal choice of an interpreter(Conductore or vocalists in charge of a recital) I guess it's works goodn for his temperment:)
wow, i just noticed his little stuff-up there in the text. yeah, a little odd for his level, but it doesn't change the fact that HE'S STILL A FREAKING BEAST!!!
words slips - these things are inevitable when performing so often
the fact that you don't hear them often and when they do they are well-disguised with him is a testament to his professionalism
remember that opera has a prompter's box for a reason.... it's insanely difficult to do everythign all at once... words, tones, pitches, rhythms, visuals... no one is perfect.
Just remember we are all human (even Great Opera stars) not machines. You never know what is going through ones mind or what happens before walking on stage.
If you think this is good than listen to the version he sings on his CD "Gods, Kings and Demons". That one is georgeous! Faster, better pronounced and of course without any text mistakes. I can only recommend his CD.
Wooohoo! Thats´s how it´s done ! No problem for forgetting the right text, starting at 2nd strophe after "le veau d´or" ! Things like these just happen, but great done, René ! I love this pause for breath just before "debout" in the 2nd strophe; how I said, the text is wrong, but you did it extremely cool!
J'ai eu le privilège de voir René Pape en live dans ce rôle. Non seulement la diction est impeccable, ce qui est rare pour un artiste étranger, mais en plus la voix correspond parfaitement au rôle. Il EST Méphisto. C'est un pur bonheur que de l'écouter dans cet opéra.
Seeing him perform at the met was so great! This scene was so awesome!
elisethora16 1 month ago
Bravo!!!
maxungerua 1 month ago
Saw him today at the Met. the man is amaaazingg on stage!
Isreal94 2 months ago
René , t'es le meilleur!!
clown84700 3 months ago
Saw him in Faust the other night!
He makes the devil look sexy!
TheSmallBrittain 4 months ago
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amazing! love him!
invoicewithlove 4 months ago
He makes a textual error...the second time, it should be "Le veau d'or...est vainqueur des dieux", not "est toujours debout". Still, great performance.
LordHettrick 7 months ago
22 people got tricked by Mephistopheles.
Jakovian12345 9 months ago 4
Yuck.
rovingdesertfox 1 year ago
@rovingdesertfox Hey, you misspelled "AWESOME"
JoshuaMazur 4 months ago
lol, look at his face.
Benjaminy2k 1 year ago
Opinions are like as*holes. Everybody has one, and thinks everyone else's stinks. PLEASE shut up your insipid whining and bitching and realize that YOU are not the one on stage being paid megabucks for your voice. Divas.... (segue) I smoked a cigarette with him outside of Carnegie's stage door once. So there!
NYCSizzle 1 year ago
Bellissima voce di basso baritono!
René Pape e un bravissimo artista,purtroppo i grandi direttori d'orchestra di 50 anni fa non esistono piu,l'orchestra lirico ancora meno.
Bravo Pape!
bodiloto 1 year ago
Ghiaurov is the best!!!!
surgeonsinger 1 year ago
J'adore le léger sourire (à 1.13) quand il réalise avoir fait une erreur de texte !
hagst27 1 year ago
@hagst27
je crois que c'est plutos le sourire sarcastioue de mephysto.
ertzike 1 year ago
His French diction is amazingly precise and clear. Many Slavic and Italian singers may have a voice with richer harmonics but they are unable to handle the tricky French sounds.
And René Pape can also sing in Russian, go figure!
hagst27 1 year ago 2
@hagst27
I think his diction sucks. It is too open. But it IS very difficult for a bass (I'm not talking about baritones, who unfortunately also are singing this role) to sing the top E flats still maintaining the typical closed french vowels...
SamiTheVoice 1 year ago
good france diction :)
milandinic1977 2 years ago
Compared to many of the other versions of this aria on Youtube, Pape sounds like a baritone, not a bass.
RossiniSoprano 2 years ago
I agree with you 100%. Pape is a marvelous singer and actor, have seen him at the Met as Mephistopheles. But I wanted to hear the roar of the basso, like Furlanetto or Ramey or - and here I agree 100% with Morihirosan - the definitive satanic one, Boris Christoff. When he sang "La bas!" you realy knew he meant, "Down there in hell."
MTondeleo 2 years ago
@MTondeleo
he is too happy that he has a nice voice, but is an imature Mephisto or Leporello or Don Basilio.
is a nice voice but not a great opera singer
danyarivw 1 year ago
@danyarivw ma che cazzo dici
Fragenoa92 1 year ago
@MTondeleo
Do you really mean that "roar of the basso, like Furlanetto" he is no bass, sorry. Baritone obscuring vocals to sound bass, and he knows it, but Italy is out of basses.
eegreen 1 year ago
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MTondeleo 1 year ago
@eegreen What in hell do you expect from a bass? You don't need to be a russian oktavist to be a "true" bass. I bet you are either a frustated baritone or a very cocky basso profondo.
DanyNicola 1 year ago
@DanyNicola
All I meant is that Furlanetto, truely, is not a bass. Rene Pape is... and I have to admit I do notice more power and rage in Furlanetto's interpretation, but I find Pape's one more pleasing because of the color and velvet of the voice.
eegreen 1 year ago
@eegreen Why not! He's today's leading basso! He's a basso cantante, which is not synonimous of basso-baritono. This is a common misconception. Sadly wikipedia states that. Plus, a basso-baritono STAYS A BASS, unless he deliberately chooses a baritonal reperoire. He's got nothing that makes him similar to a baritone.
DanyNicola 1 year ago
@DanyNicola Well he doesn't have much of a low range on O Isis und Osiris, so I'm not sure what makes him similar to a bass either.
UKbasso22 1 year ago
@UKbasso22 Furlanetto sang O Isis und Osiris? That's new to me. Anyhow, you should give a try to his Sparafucile and his Fiesco. You'd be surprised. Gorgeous F2s.
DanyNicola 1 year ago
@DanyNicola Oh, my fault. I thought you were referring to Rene Pape from the previous comment. I'll have to take a look at the Sparafucile and Fiesco.
UKbasso22 1 year ago
I agree
jfsanin 1 year ago
Bravissimo bravo!!!
algol22 2 years ago
I saw him Saturday night in Chicago. He was absolutely incredible. So were Beczala and Meachem (whom I saw as Don Giovanni in Santa Fe).
djjmmm 2 years ago
Just saw him sing it tonight in Chicago. It was an absolutely stellar show.
joeyhemlock 2 years ago 9
BRAVO !!!
bodiloto 2 years ago
From all renditions to which I have listened, this one is, I think, the closest to Boris Christoff's. The latter is the one and only Basso Master.
Morihirosan 2 years ago
J'adore. His French diction is very clear.
marcopolette 2 years ago
Comme beaucoup d'allemand.
isabelle070209 2 years ago
Back in 1987 Ramey sang it with Shicoff in Chicago and they brought the house down and now Pape will sing it in Chicago next month with Beczala, should be a good one.
halavey 2 years ago
too fast, but still great interpretation. some e-flats are pushed. I guess basses like to sing it in faster then indicated tempo in the score to avoide singing long high notes? and it became tradition to sing it that way. But this aria should sound better with Alegro maestoso and not presto:)
comescrittomaestro 2 years ago
this is a perfect tempo ask any singer
DIEZAUBERFLOTEMENSCH 2 years ago
I agree. On his recent CD release, he sings this piece at a MUCH faster tempo. However it doesn't lose any of the effect and I like it at both speeds. Any slower and it would just drag, in my opinion. I think the faster tempo suits the piece well, being that is one of the Devil's arias.
RawrPianoPlyr 2 years ago
Hm...I think if its that slow, it has more power and the interpret has more options to enjoy the music and bring it better to the audience; it has more power and I don´t think, that a devil wants to kill their opponents quickly; they play with them to show their overwhelming power and strength!:-)
WhiteProfondo 2 years ago
off course finaly tempo is a personal choice of an interpreter(Conductore or vocalists in charge of a recital) I guess it's works goodn for his temperment:)
comescrittomaestro 1 year ago
wow, i just noticed his little stuff-up there in the text. yeah, a little odd for his level, but it doesn't change the fact that HE'S STILL A FREAKING BEAST!!!
mkbub 2 years ago
words slips - these things are inevitable when performing so often
the fact that you don't hear them often and when they do they are well-disguised with him is a testament to his professionalism
remember that opera has a prompter's box for a reason.... it's insanely difficult to do everythign all at once... words, tones, pitches, rhythms, visuals... no one is perfect.
wotan3000 2 years ago 2
Just remember we are all human (even Great Opera stars) not machines. You never know what is going through ones mind or what happens before walking on stage.
ILikeOpera 2 years ago 2
I love Rene, but as Faust George LOndon and Boris Christoff are unsurpased!
SerbianSoprano 2 years ago
@SerbianSoprano I assume you mean as Mephistopheles?
90lysander 2 months ago
If you think this is good than listen to the version he sings on his CD "Gods, Kings and Demons". That one is georgeous! Faster, better pronounced and of course without any text mistakes. I can only recommend his CD.
mausimama1 2 years ago
Great voice
He is very charming
gracek703 2 years ago
haha. love how all the chicks in the orchestra are smiling before he starts singing!!!
rexeterna 2 years ago
Nice Singing, but wrong Text, its funny for hes Level :)
OpernDriver 2 years ago
why did he change the text at the beginning of the second verse? wtf?
DIEZAUBERFLOTEMENSCH 2 years ago 2
bravo!rene pape
thrashgg 3 years ago
Good Lord, that man is gorgeous.
jamiezra 3 years ago 21
This is sung very well.
Everyone should be careful when singing this song... it's so easy to push on it, and you can see some straining on the sides of his neck if you look.
Belcore14 3 years ago
omgosh!! i can't get over how good this guy is. phenomenal singer, fantastic actor. i love the way he snaps his neck right b4 he starts!
mkbub 3 years ago 3
Gorgeous voice! I'd love to hear him in person.
FacePaster 3 years ago 3
Wooohoo! Thats´s how it´s done ! No problem for forgetting the right text, starting at 2nd strophe after "le veau d´or" ! Things like these just happen, but great done, René ! I love this pause for breath just before "debout" in the 2nd strophe; how I said, the text is wrong, but you did it extremely cool!
WhiteProfondo 3 years ago
...but this song is allso sung well by
ghiaurov ofcourse. ramey is allso fantastic in this repertoir.
hamster13 3 years ago
very good!
right now he is in norway singing in Don Carlo.
hamster13 3 years ago
J'ai eu le privilège de voir René Pape en live dans ce rôle. Non seulement la diction est impeccable, ce qui est rare pour un artiste étranger, mais en plus la voix correspond parfaitement au rôle. Il EST Méphisto. C'est un pur bonheur que de l'écouter dans cet opéra.
luisamiller 3 years ago
Bellissimo!
34fgsfgsdtu48w7qtaqt 3 years ago
bryn terfel and ramey are the best's. French include
quicky281185 3 years ago
I think Samuel Ramey is best. He IS the devil! His French is also much better than Pape's.
Aegisth 3 years ago
if you like ramey, i think you will like cesare siepi as well. Jerome hines also does agreat job with this aria
pechorin1841 3 years ago
Pape is simply the best! What a voice!
DaMum 3 years ago
Wonderful performance; only wish it had been staged as Pape is so dramatic.
sospello 3 years ago
Bravo!!!
WiseMonki 3 years ago