you cant get over with a good young up and coming power house then put him in a match with an old man that can barley work. then expect that match to work i don't think so...
you cant get over with a good young up and coming power house then put him in a match with an old man that can barley work. then expect that match to work i don't think so...
you cant get over with a good young up and coming power house then put him in a match with an old man that can barley work. then expect that match to work i don't think so...
JBL was a great wrestler..who are you to say he was a joke?that's only in ur opinon and to some but i dont see him being a tv troublemaker like John Cena and Batista!
but yet tna has people like eric bischoff hulk hogan the wolf pack sting vince russo and even hulk hogan said it before he came to tna he gonna do the same thing he did to wcw
dude are you joking TNA has great matchs the recent matchs with AJ styles vs matt morgan really that isnt a shit match if you ask me and the gimmicks arent the best but look at some of WWE gimmicks kung fu naki zach ryder and the hurricane also if you wanna say TNA has shit matchs look at WWE like seriously when ever i watch a WWEv PPV im bored but the recent TNA PPV was great they have great action great wrestlers and a better show the WWE
Edgelsawsomeness is an idiot the gimmick doesnt define how gd a wrestler some1 is and also 90% of all TNA fans are former WWE fans so what does tht say
@thedaz3 i dnt know why people thumbs u down wen ur right tna is about maybe 70-80% of wwe stars and u know booker t is coming back to wwe in november but having a light schedule
i respect that u like me , like wrestling. but tna is the losinsg side./ no more christian. u have a long list of veterans that have only so long. sting. angle nash . foleys rep is obliterated. king booka ruined his status. and when they all retire. or angle breaks his neck. ur left with cruiserweight. that are athletic. but ultimatley futile when there ur only source of entertainment
JBL's reign was for about 9 months, I think & he was recorded as 'The Longest WWE Title Reign In A Decade'...: John Cena held the title for a year & a half, so, if my math's correct, John Cena destroyed JBL's record & he's the new record-setter, right?
ifyou notice if you hear them they are like everything wwe does fails if its tna everything they do is perfect this are just tna hard core fans who are just trying to make you fans of tna they blinded by only thinking tna is never gone
You've obviously never spent even a minute listening to what they have to say. Because what you just said is completely false. They have criticised TNA several times for various reasons
JBL is good on the mike - but what WWE did in making such a heel in the new gimmick, and becoming champion. But eliciting this response from guys like you is exactly the reaction the WWE wants, ie heel champions - hated by fans
TNA puts young guys over?? Huh??? Have we been watching the same show?? Kevin Nash, who looks about 55 now and can barely walk yet alone wrestle, squashed Consequences Creed on Impact. Then we have Kurt Angle beating Matt Morgan clean with a weak ass Angle slam. Not to mention Sting beating Joe for the f'ing World title!!! So who exactly is being put over??
For one, If I were a WWE fan, I wouldn't waste my time watching two TNA fans who hate WWE talk about how WWE sucks, secondly, I'm done wasting my time talking to an immature brat like you. You don't get it. Its nothing but "wwe rulez, everything else sucks" with you. You can't have a discussion with someone with such narrow minded thinking as you have displayed. I hope you grow up soon.
JBL's character was to basiclly to build heat plus Vince was always abut the images not real talent. He loves casual fans. I'm sad to know you 2 don't know that by now. Plus Eddie WANTED to drop the belt cuz holding it was causing pressure on him. I agree he should have lost it fairly like Benoit did.
dude if there was one way to sum that one u just did it lol yo check my vids out im an up coming shooter so sub to me man an tell people if honeslty enjoy my vids.
TNA is a black hole its the bizzare world of wrestling, years ago when tNA was shown on ppvs i loved it and lovd the stars like Red, S.E.X., and other great stars, now TNA is WWE's dumping ground.
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I totally agree with Bill and Doug, TNA is great hell it came to AUS 2003 and cut off, i have seen AJ's old matches and quite a bit of TNA this year.
TNA is the future company, Jeff Hardy which i am a big fan of i want him to be champion, but ive been watching wwf/e since 2002 and well a bit before i dont relly remember, but TNA gives everyone a fair go 100 percent.
Now Booker T vs Black Machezmo that was a match even tho jays a mid carder bravo TNA.
Just because someone was a midcarder in another organization doesn't mean they don't have main event talent. Look at Cactus Jack, Steve Austin, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero. All midcarders in WCW. All WWE champions as well. Christian has impeccable mic skills and plenty of in ring talent. I think that it might have been a size thing in WWE; Edge is a much bigger guy than Christian. And I never said Edge was bad. He is the top heel in the WWE when he comes back.
dude, Christian was never carried by Edge. In fact, Christian was a singles guy for 4 years before he left WWE. That's just bitterness of a guy who doesn't like it when one of their favorites goes away.
The first point is exactly how I got into TNA. I was sick and tired of that ill-fated Angle-Cena feud in late 2005 when I heard Christian was leaving for TNA. Checked out TNA for Captain Charisma, and was blown away by the X Division. It didnt matter that I thought the heavyweights were kind of stale, the X Division kicked so much ass, I tuned n every night from then on for at least 3-4 months
there right about jbl. after he won the title, i stopped watching it until around wrestlemania 21 and he still had the title! i was suprised and i said to myself, "no wonder i stopped watching this".
He might be a heavy but he moves like a 200 pound high flyer. So I don't get why someone has to be skinny to be a champion. It should be all about how they perform. And if anyone thinks Joe does not perform they need to go to the eye doctors.
HAHAHAHAHA Wait a min. Didn't they just get done saying that Samoa Joe is an up and coming star (meaning he is not a main eventer) and then said that JBL's title reign didn't work because they tried to make him a main eventer after he had the belt? UHHHHHHHHHH Something doesn't seem right HAHAHAHA
guys i agree with you on a lot of points, but really when are the young guys going to get their shots? because as far as i can see Eric Youngs a joke, Machismo is like a deflated baloon, the X title has lost EVERY bit of its worth and the Knockout title has replaced it on tv. how many promos r dedicated to the women on impact? tonnes! replace that shit with some X division stars and lets get the prestigue back! X title rocks, but its onthe back seat now! PLZ comment on this, cuz u kno im right!
WWE made so many stupid mistakes. No disrespect to Eddie, but that was the worst decision to make him WWE champion. WWE as today sucks. I mean do WWE know how to use superstars? TNA is no better either, I mean come on. Fans can even tell who the potential stars of these companies should be, but both companies don't want to take advantage. TNA needs to learn how to build up their own talent and not always put the rejects on top first.
Thats kinda true, you want someone that can be built up good.. WWE trys to hard though.. They're to much in the hurry to have a austin or the Rock again.. TNA made a good mini Build up for Joe, but they should of exspanded.. They're doing better with Styles now.. when they did the prince AJ storyline.. It was bad..
That was a typo, you should have figured that out (but I'm not surprised you didn't) anyway, The E is popular because its a brand name, its not popular because its better, its the show that on 3-4 times a week, its the most recognizable wrestling company on the planet. It seems that you are nothing but an immature Emark, but you got to understand that ratings do not equal quality.
You didn't say anything of any truth. Just cuz your show get higher ratings,does make it better, it just means more people watch, thats it. If TNA got more viewers than WWE, is it automatically better? No, its all a matter of preception. I know some people who never heard of TNA so how the hell is it suppose to get higher ratings than a household name like the WWE?
Just cuz you get higher ratings doesn't mean its better dumbass. WCW found a way to get people to watch, I'm not denying that, but you have to remember, WCW (or NWA) has been around for a long time.
Bill and Doug, keep up the good work. You guys are absolutely right. I'm looking forward to BFG. I'm a huge Sting fan, but if Joe wins I'll be happy, because Samoa Joe will be elevated even more.
They knew what they were doing? Thats not entirely true. WCW got a edge on WWE because they had guys like Hogan, Nash, Hall,etc guys who wouldn't push young talent which lead to its demise (along with bad contracts and execs interference).
so wait wouldnt that make jbl a credible main eventer? i mean he beat eddie, booker, taker, angle, show. and then main evented wrestlemania with john cena.
but since it's jbl it doesnt count?
isnt that just bias, i mean you just contricted yourself, by comparing jericho and jbl.
but wat does that prove? jbl was not believeable as main eventer in first place and beating everyone simply does not make him any better. u dont put a guy whos a lower/mid card guy with no credibility or any mommentum being the champ, beating everyone and now hes credible. A push doesnt work this way, if it does who needs creative writer.
assuming lance cade happen to screw y2j and is the champ now and beatin hhh hbk taker etc. could u belives hes a credible champ?
your right he wasnt, thats not the arguement doug compared jericho to jbl, jericho had no momentum when he became champion as well, but like doug said he beat credible contenders and main evented wrestlemania so that makes him a credible champion.
so with doug's logic jbl can also be considered a credible champion, see how he contridicted himself in the video.
bill and doug for the win!!! haha but in tna if ur name isnt angle,sting,joe,jarret,nash, or booker t u aint being booked/used right, im trying to b a fan of tna but i just cant cuz there wrestlers r not being used right, and wwe isnt much better but there storylines right now r better than tna
I can see what you guys are saying bout' JBL and in my opinion he should've stayed retired. Tho he was the best heel(along with Edge) World Champion the WWE has had in years.
In a sitcom I guess if a gun shoots someone and then the person lives I guess I loose credibility for it. WHY not just watch wrestling and storylines instead of talking about credibility and all this joke. Nobody cares about this im sure the fans that dont spend all day on the net being brainwased by this.
after wrestlemania 20 once lesnar and goldberg were gone there was either booker t or rvd who could have started a feud with eddie but for some insane reason bradshaw that idea proved once and for all that vince is not a genius
I was unaware of the internet bs when JBL had his title reign, i was still a 'mark'. When he was having the reign i completely believed in him and took him as a credible champion. I watched him move from the APA to JBL, the only reason you two idiots dont like it is because you think your words are gospel. stfu
I agree, Sonjays a very good wrestler, but with the gimmick matches he's had with Lethal have been terrible. Did you see that Tuxedo Chain match? ugh....
JBL really didnt deserve a year long title run i really agree on that the guy is just boring but a really good heel sorta like robert roode back then but he is sorta cool now
How can we get behind guys like Jay Lethal and Sonjay Dutt when they're getting booked in ridiculous gimmick matches? Both companies have a lot of work to do to become a premier organization. For TNA, it's simple, fire Russo. For WWE, however, forcing out Vince is a lot harder. Oh yea, and just because not everyone can have Dixie's and Jeff's cock in their mouth like both of you obviously do, does not make them idiots.
The knockout division in TNA is Awesome Kong and everyone else. WWE's diva division is getting much better since they've quit doing the pillow fights and gravy matches and focused on just wrestling. WWE is putting a disgrace on the IC title with Santino and his lucky win gimmick. Santino is actually a good wrestler but WWE is focusing more on his comedic side rather than showing us more. TNA has great young wrestlers but not a lot of fans know about them.
Open your eyes, both companies suck ass. We all know Vince loves the big guys so he brings them in, no matter how green they are, and shoves them down our throats (ex. Khali, Kozlov). WWE has had a good string of PPV's lately and it seems like they can keep it going. TNA brings in the ex-WWE guys and puts a belt on them as soon as they get there, with exception to Booker T. Rhyno was the best example. I give more credibility to David Arquette as champion than I would Rhyno.
well if you look at it that way... it's a possibility and i see where you're coming from with that statement WWE has a ton of history not just with the monday night wars but back even in the 80's with hogan, andre the giant, and more but it's just that fact that WWE is no longer the way that they once were with great storylines, wrestling and promos, they had the entire thing... if they can go back to those days it would be awesome
come on dont be stupid ummm wwe has had a load of great matches this year. All of the undertaker vs edge matches, Ric vs HBK, cena vs HHH 2 etc. IMO wwe has not had 1 bad/CRAP PPV this year can the same be said for TNA?
i remember one scott hall interview where he was asked if that legendary ladder match at Wrestlemania against Shawn was his best match ever, and it kind of shocked me when he said "no, i felt we had better ones in house shows"
so that's the kind of dedication wwe had in the 90s i guess
They make a lot of great points in this video. WWE is following the WCW blueprint. They havent had a memorable match in ages, they've taken blood out of there matches, and their playing it completely safe with the pg rating. With that being said, TNA isnt impressing anybody right now either.
i agree with you there, i used to love watching RAW every week, but now i only watch jericho and michaels and the rest of the show is pretty much predictable at this point
You know its funny how Bill & Doug think they know how to run a wrestling buisness like theyre Vince Mcmahon. Now wether you like Vince or You Hate him he revolutionized Wrestling he brought in into mainstream hes one that actually made wrestling known world wide. I wonder if its reason WWE is only wrestling promption shown around world where if any of the wrestlers go to any country theyre known. I wonder If TNA can say the same
If you want to get people to watch TNA, stop trying to turn this issue into a TNA vs. WWE battle. The only thing u will do is create haters and people won't tune into the product. If TNA is as good as u say it is, then they will win over people. U don't have to bash WWE all the time because it decreases ur creditability. People will say, "If WWE is crap, why do u know everything that goes on in it." IF u hate WWE, stop watching bcuz ur still supporting them.
The WWE is alot like WCW used to be in this one way: they aren't planning for the future. When the time came for guys like Raven, DDP, Steiner, Guerrero, Jericho, & Benoit to get big pushes & start moving their way up, WCW didnt do it. And like Ive said before when a young guy gets over in WWE, they cut his legs out. Like I've said, when Taker, Trips, Shawn, Jericho, Edge, & all the other biggies start retiring, things are gonna get messy.
Yes the push came WAY too soon. I wont fight that, but I loved the character, and I thought he was a great heel persona.
At the time, Angle was hurt, Lesnar left, Big Show was hurt, and RVD was in his near permanent limbo, so they just went nuts. JBL was given the ball and he ran with it.
ya jbl cannot be denied hes a tremdous heel to begin with in day one. if jbl happen to have a proper build up in mid card then he would have been a respectful champ/ main eventer. It sucks that everyone left that time and understand SD needs a new main eventer, but they could have let eddie go for long title run instead giving jbl, do a draft lottery, bring some raw guy in. WWE have lots of option but they stupid enough to allow APA bradshaw to carry the brand
And, JBL was getting pushes before he became JBL... When he was bradshaw he would wrestle singles matches against people like A-Train and Lesnar. He had left Farooq behind and was waiting for him to leave to get his push. He was in team angle at survivor series when farooq was replaced by cena
LOL Y2J had a great reign in 2001-2002 are you crazy he was crap champ. Hell I may get bashed for this but jbl's reign was better then jerichos Undisputed reign
i agree with you but because its jericho people will probably disagree. I love y2j but that reign just didn't seem credible either. Now the present reign is very good though...so far.
I also disagree with JBL's reign... His reign was legendary and the whole point was that he should not beat anyone he wrestled yet he did... Granted Eddie deserved a greater reign but JBL is a decent wrestler and above people like Cena, Batista, Khali, Kane, etc
Usually I agree with you guys, but I disagree totally with the JBL thing.
JBL had a great reign as the WWE Champion. WWE's last great WWE Champion. He did good matches, even better feuds. One of the best promo cutters in WWE Right Now. Even back then.
Batista reign though, Rey reign though, those were jokes.
I hate JBL but thats his character I hate. He played a great part on TV from 2004-2005. He had this thing going every month like "How did He pull that off!?". I thought it was great and one of the last few great ideas. I would watch pay-per-view every month just to hope to see this guy lose because I hated the character JBL but the storyline was gold. He played his part great and he is very underated.
couldnt agree more ..... i went to hard justice and literally half the arena was empty!!!! the side where the cameras are (not facing) was COMPLETELY empty
Samoa Joe has had one of the weakest title runs i have ever seen. It is as if they are trying to make him a complete idiot. Sonjay annot get credibility from illogical booking.
TNA missed their opportunity to make people care about Samoa Joe being champion. They gave him the belt after what his 6th PPV confrontation with Kurt Angle? Not to mention he won the belt in a slow, worked, MMA style cage match, which was the worst of all the matches the two had together.
Why would JBL a multi million dollar superstar who has headlined PPVS and entertained fans all over the world give a flying fuck what the two morons who make up STDtito4life have to say in a 10minute video that there only making again because TNA fired them? Please explain, id love to read it.
He would care because it's TRUE. Actually, he wouldn't care, because he's an asshole. Oh look! You said STD tito4life!! Genius! Sexually transmitted disease! Wow!
Dude, shut the fuck up. That's childish beyond all beliefs. And if they're so mad about TNA "firing" them, then why the FUCK are they slating JBL? Who, coincidentally, works for the WWE. Why are they slating the WWE? In this video they are mainly praising TNA! You fucking IDIOT! But, maybe you're right.
I hope you don't think that was an explanation of some sort. "He would care because its true" according to who? 2 morons with a camera and a youtube account or maybe because tjwwe the star wars obsessed GTA playing playing wannabe badass said so. Either way im pretty sure he wipes his ass with what you and your buttbuddies in the video think so continuing this conversation really is pointless i guess.
Dude. You are such a cunt. So you like JBL? Come on, it doesn't take a genius to know his title reign was a complete and utter joke. These aren't just two morons. They are two wrestling fans with an opinion. JBL clearly got put in his place by two wrestling fans who KNOW what they are talking about. And WELL DONE! You looked at my channel to get to know me better! Thanks! Cunt. I like what I like. Accept it or go fuck yourself.
All i did was ask a question and make a few observations. Trust me dude these guys are passionate morons but morons none the less.
You can call JBL a joke all you want but facts will show you that he has a track record that your favorite wrestler most likely can only dream of. Victories over guerrero, big show, taker and kurt angle to name a few while being one of the longest reinging champs in the modern era. And you can like whatever you want just know the same goes for others.
And one last thing, yes they still shit on the wwe but thats because thats all they have left, and unfortunately for them its all they can do right. These guys tried to go the whole pro TNA route without mentioning WWE and it got them fired because listening to them without wwe insults sucked. There boring as all hell unless they bash wwe and its pretty damn sad that so many of their subs cant understand that. Either way i get laughs out of them so i tune in to share my opinion is all.
Why do you think TNA hired them in the first place you idiot? Not because they bashed the wwe. Because they spread the word of TNA. So do some research before you come on here and try to offend me.
TNA hired them because they were bias mindless TNA fanboys with a decent following of more mindless bias fanboys. TNA used them and tossed them away like the Toilet paper JBL wipes his ass with.
And i know enough about these moron because i have seen all there videos since they were on bunk beds and cutting low budget promos in closets. I even remember when they were hacked and exposed for the frauds that they are by getting free tickets for a TNA ppv show. hows that for research numbnuts.
yeah, i guess thats important, but at the same time it does not mean the wrestlers that appeal to the "kiddie fans" make it a good thing to the fans that enjoy great wrestling and great matches (feuds).
The only reason JBL got the title is cos Lesnar left and Angle was injured.
martinjamesglasgow 2 months ago
JBL,Batista and Khali are godawful wrestlers but Cena is not.
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@EdgeIsAwesomeness 2 years ago your a dumbass and 2 years later your still a dumbass you mark
ecw101ecw 8 months ago
It was funny because Samoa Joe hasn't done jack shit since losing that title... 2 years ago...
Nessrox444 1 year ago
cena is a complete joke
dgenxboy 1 year ago
wow u guys dont even praise one single thing wwe does, and you stick your heads up the ass of TNA..
VerbatimMemorex 1 year ago
you cant get over with a good young up and coming power house then put him in a match with an old man that can barley work. then expect that match to work i don't think so...
shn3751 1 year ago
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you cant get over with a good young up and coming power house then put him in a match with an old man that can barley work. then expect that match to work i don't think so...
shn3751 1 year ago
you cant get over with a good young up and coming power house then put him in a match with an old man that can barley work. then expect that match to work i don't think so...
shn3751 1 year ago
Eddie Guerrero will always be the best, rip
b09h 1 year ago
JBL was a great wrestler..who are you to say he was a joke?that's only in ur opinon and to some but i dont see him being a tv troublemaker like John Cena and Batista!
MrHumerousify 1 year ago
doesnt work to this day. they still give titles to people before they properly push someone.
Mr1700 1 year ago
I remember these marks, they work for TNA now
Joeki11a 1 year ago
@kantaDragoon All the way back to Thursdays
LibertyPrimeV1 1 year ago
but yet tna has people like eric bischoff hulk hogan the wolf pack sting vince russo and even hulk hogan said it before he came to tna he gonna do the same thing he did to wcw
thepeopleschamp1983 2 years ago
i'm sooo glad that these 2 clown-ass idiots don't make vids anymore
Blaccandblue 2 years ago
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TNACrossTheLineFan 2 years ago
that video thy are trying to show everyone about tna good part all their is tna is shit no good matche's and bad gimmicks
awosomed 2 years ago
dude are you joking TNA has great matchs the recent matchs with AJ styles vs matt morgan really that isnt a shit match if you ask me and the gimmicks arent the best but look at some of WWE gimmicks kung fu naki zach ryder and the hurricane also if you wanna say TNA has shit matchs look at WWE like seriously when ever i watch a WWEv PPV im bored but the recent TNA PPV was great they have great action great wrestlers and a better show the WWE
toymachine6594 2 years ago
@toymachine6594 since wwe is talking about going pg 13 or tv 14 after wrestlemania wwe will get good with the blood if they go tv 14
kdog104 2 years ago
you have no idea how good that would be and i wouldnt mind at all :) thats great to hear they may go back to a non kid pg show im happy
toymachine6594 1 year ago
@awosomed tna has some good matches but the show is nt all good its pretty bad
kdog104 2 years ago
why was JBL pushed in the first place? Anyone know?
Jerichowins 2 years ago 3
He was a great heel and he was with the company for a long time
ninjahound11 2 years ago
I like your style. for once youtube wrestling shows that have some sanity and sence behind it. THANK YOU
eddiewwefan 2 years ago
you guys do not get tired standing that long?
historian111z 2 years ago
thanks 4 sane view on wrestling
barbel666 2 years ago
Edgelsawsomeness is an idiot the gimmick doesnt define how gd a wrestler some1 is and also 90% of all TNA fans are former WWE fans so what does tht say
thedaz3 2 years ago
@thedaz3 i dnt know why people thumbs u down wen ur right tna is about maybe 70-80% of wwe stars and u know booker t is coming back to wwe in november but having a light schedule
kdog104 2 years ago
JBL's the WWE Intercontinental champion, now...: Yay!
(**Give me a brake!**.).
tthomaselli2 3 years ago 4
Samoa Joe VS. Sting, a classic!
tthomaselli2 3 years ago
(**Response to HeartBreakKid1987.**.).
JBL won the WWE Undisputed Title because he & Eddie Guerrero were best friends in real-life &he wanted to put him over.
tthomaselli2 3 years ago
Not to be nasty, but much of this is fantastically ironic some 5 months down the line...
Ryushinku 3 years ago
I was thinking the same thing.
tripleHBKane 3 years ago
How are WCW & TNA all alike?
tthomaselli2 3 years ago
JBL's title-reign may've been the biggest joke, but, John Cena's has been the longest.
tthomaselli2 3 years ago
i respect that u like me , like wrestling. but tna is the losinsg side./ no more christian. u have a long list of veterans that have only so long. sting. angle nash . foleys rep is obliterated. king booka ruined his status. and when they all retire. or angle breaks his neck. ur left with cruiserweight. that are athletic. but ultimatley futile when there ur only source of entertainment
mankiller009 3 years ago
i started watching tna when kurt angle joined coz he was my favorite wrestler so when i started watching i saw aj styles somoa joe an more!
RVD2267 3 years ago
JBL's reign was for about 9 months, I think & he was recorded as 'The Longest WWE Title Reign In A Decade'...: John Cena held the title for a year & a half, so, if my math's correct, John Cena destroyed JBL's record & he's the new record-setter, right?
tthomaselli2 3 years ago
ifyou notice if you hear them they are like everything wwe does fails if its tna everything they do is perfect this are just tna hard core fans who are just trying to make you fans of tna they blinded by only thinking tna is never gone
christalkshowrule 3 years ago
You've obviously never spent even a minute listening to what they have to say. Because what you just said is completely false. They have criticised TNA several times for various reasons
JakeN1985 3 years ago
matt hardy she get a big push its time for him to be in the real main events no more ecw
SwantonKing93 3 years ago
The biggest cancer in Wrestling today is John Cena anyway cause he held the title for about 100 hundred years!
HeartBreakKid1987 3 years ago
lol true he only loses it when he gets injured hopefully he gets injured so he can lose the title
SwantonKing93 3 years ago
JBL is a WRESTLING GOD!!!!!
HeartBreakKid1987 3 years ago
I still can't decide whether Lesner's SS 02 title win tops JBL in 04.
AntiBullshitMan 3 years ago
JBL is good on the mike - but what WWE did in making such a heel in the new gimmick, and becoming champion. But eliciting this response from guys like you is exactly the reaction the WWE wants, ie heel champions - hated by fans
trueblue1989 3 years ago 3
jbl won cuz eddie was jbls friend so he wanted to put him over
SoundwaveSuperior373 3 years ago 8
yes
HotSpicyTasteGreat 3 years ago 4
I stick by what I said. Give up. Please. Just... stop.
tjwwe 3 years ago
You're such a childish fucking idiot.
tjwwe 3 years ago
Lets see you get hired by any wrestling company, especially the second biggest pro-wrestling company in North America.
tjwwe 3 years ago
TNA puts young guys over?? Huh??? Have we been watching the same show?? Kevin Nash, who looks about 55 now and can barely walk yet alone wrestle, squashed Consequences Creed on Impact. Then we have Kurt Angle beating Matt Morgan clean with a weak ass Angle slam. Not to mention Sting beating Joe for the f'ing World title!!! So who exactly is being put over??
WalksUnseen 3 years ago 3
For one, If I were a WWE fan, I wouldn't waste my time watching two TNA fans who hate WWE talk about how WWE sucks, secondly, I'm done wasting my time talking to an immature brat like you. You don't get it. Its nothing but "wwe rulez, everything else sucks" with you. You can't have a discussion with someone with such narrow minded thinking as you have displayed. I hope you grow up soon.
huvitud123 3 years ago
JBL's character was to basiclly to build heat plus Vince was always abut the images not real talent. He loves casual fans. I'm sad to know you 2 don't know that by now. Plus Eddie WANTED to drop the belt cuz holding it was causing pressure on him. I agree he should have lost it fairly like Benoit did.
HBKanedge818 3 years ago
dude if there was one way to sum that one u just did it lol yo check my vids out im an up coming shooter so sub to me man an tell people if honeslty enjoy my vids.
Smokey137 3 years ago
TNA is a black hole its the bizzare world of wrestling, years ago when tNA was shown on ppvs i loved it and lovd the stars like Red, S.E.X., and other great stars, now TNA is WWE's dumping ground.
daRetro1 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I totally agree with Bill and Doug, TNA is great hell it came to AUS 2003 and cut off, i have seen AJ's old matches and quite a bit of TNA this year.
TNA is the future company, Jeff Hardy which i am a big fan of i want him to be champion, but ive been watching wwf/e since 2002 and well a bit before i dont relly remember, but TNA gives everyone a fair go 100 percent.
Now Booker T vs Black Machezmo that was a match even tho jays a mid carder bravo TNA.
MediaAMz 3 years ago
Just because someone was a midcarder in another organization doesn't mean they don't have main event talent. Look at Cactus Jack, Steve Austin, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero. All midcarders in WCW. All WWE champions as well. Christian has impeccable mic skills and plenty of in ring talent. I think that it might have been a size thing in WWE; Edge is a much bigger guy than Christian. And I never said Edge was bad. He is the top heel in the WWE when he comes back.
flacohombre 3 years ago
dude, Christian was never carried by Edge. In fact, Christian was a singles guy for 4 years before he left WWE. That's just bitterness of a guy who doesn't like it when one of their favorites goes away.
flacohombre 3 years ago
u guy should talk about AJ (Allen Jones) styles (shit missed spelled it an to lazy to look up how to spell it)
stevegonsalves123 3 years ago
The first point is exactly how I got into TNA. I was sick and tired of that ill-fated Angle-Cena feud in late 2005 when I heard Christian was leaving for TNA. Checked out TNA for Captain Charisma, and was blown away by the X Division. It didnt matter that I thought the heavyweights were kind of stale, the X Division kicked so much ass, I tuned n every night from then on for at least 3-4 months
flacohombre 3 years ago
You guys are dead wrong. I never thought Bradshaw would ever get to that level, but he's there now and he feels to me like he belongs there.
The reason he lost to Cena in 5 minutes is because Cena is a shit wrestler who can't work a match.
I thought JBL's title reign was surprisingly great.
psycobetabuckdown 3 years ago
there right about jbl. after he won the title, i stopped watching it until around wrestlemania 21 and he still had the title! i was suprised and i said to myself, "no wonder i stopped watching this".
ThePeoplesKing15 3 years ago
Big Show, Kurt Angle, Undertaker, Eddie Guerruo, Booker T JBL beat. Unbelieveable.
BringTheWar 3 years ago
I loved when bill and doug bash on jbl cause I fucking hate that fucking bitch!
wwfwcwecwxpw 3 years ago
u dont have to be skinny to be a top hw u have to have muscle and look good but joe is just big and fat
ste198555 3 years ago
I am glad you mentioned how the wwe is so like the wcw than tna is. I have been saying this all along!
Shriekspear 3 years ago
no wwe sucks
Stingfan200010 3 years ago 2
i love tna it rocks
Stingfan200010 3 years ago 2
fuck tna haters
Stingfan200010 3 years ago 2
Damn he called JBL the antichrist. LOL!
Turp28 3 years ago
samoa joe is a joke tho for one he is fat should nt u be in shape to be a top wrestler?
i know most of the wwe stars are on steroids but they look the part tna stars dont look the part sting does nt even look like a hw he is to thin
ste198555 3 years ago
He might be a heavy but he moves like a 200 pound high flyer. So I don't get why someone has to be skinny to be a champion. It should be all about how they perform. And if anyone thinks Joe does not perform they need to go to the eye doctors.
Shriekspear 3 years ago
Bring the X back , great video guys.
TheHumanFetus 3 years ago
HAHAHAHAHA Wait a min. Didn't they just get done saying that Samoa Joe is an up and coming star (meaning he is not a main eventer) and then said that JBL's title reign didn't work because they tried to make him a main eventer after he had the belt? UHHHHHHHHHH Something doesn't seem right HAHAHAHA
averagejoe397 3 years ago
Samoa Joes Title reign has been awful. No one gives a crap about Samoa Joe anymore
natedoggcata 3 years ago
ok i agree with u gguys completly but they need 2 build up the x divison n add another title 2 tna for da other guys
cabis910 3 years ago
guys i agree with you on a lot of points, but really when are the young guys going to get their shots? because as far as i can see Eric Youngs a joke, Machismo is like a deflated baloon, the X title has lost EVERY bit of its worth and the Knockout title has replaced it on tv. how many promos r dedicated to the women on impact? tonnes! replace that shit with some X division stars and lets get the prestigue back! X title rocks, but its onthe back seat now! PLZ comment on this, cuz u kno im right!
heartraiser 3 years ago
Samoa Joe is probably the most overrated wrestler ever.
I honestly think P.Williams and Styles should be main eventing more.Not saying Styles isn't, but not enough.
SteGuitar7 3 years ago
WWE made so many stupid mistakes. No disrespect to Eddie, but that was the worst decision to make him WWE champion. WWE as today sucks. I mean do WWE know how to use superstars? TNA is no better either, I mean come on. Fans can even tell who the potential stars of these companies should be, but both companies don't want to take advantage. TNA needs to learn how to build up their own talent and not always put the rejects on top first.
Bossdog05 3 years ago
Thats kinda true, you want someone that can be built up good.. WWE trys to hard though.. They're to much in the hurry to have a austin or the Rock again.. TNA made a good mini Build up for Joe, but they should of exspanded.. They're doing better with Styles now.. when they did the prince AJ storyline.. It was bad..
HardcoreKatsu 3 years ago
That was a typo, you should have figured that out (but I'm not surprised you didn't) anyway, The E is popular because its a brand name, its not popular because its better, its the show that on 3-4 times a week, its the most recognizable wrestling company on the planet. It seems that you are nothing but an immature Emark, but you got to understand that ratings do not equal quality.
huvitud123 3 years ago
You didn't say anything of any truth. Just cuz your show get higher ratings,does make it better, it just means more people watch, thats it. If TNA got more viewers than WWE, is it automatically better? No, its all a matter of preception. I know some people who never heard of TNA so how the hell is it suppose to get higher ratings than a household name like the WWE?
huvitud123 3 years ago
JBL should've stayed as commentator, he's a fat, useless, boring, spot monkey peice of shit in the ring. I was just as pissed as you.
Collin4133 3 years ago
JBL a spot monkey? LMAO.
DrumKicker787 3 years ago
Just cuz you get higher ratings doesn't mean its better dumbass. WCW found a way to get people to watch, I'm not denying that, but you have to remember, WCW (or NWA) has been around for a long time.
P.S. Your such a big talker, asswhipe.
huvitud123 3 years ago
Bill and Doug, keep up the good work. You guys are absolutely right. I'm looking forward to BFG. I'm a huge Sting fan, but if Joe wins I'll be happy, because Samoa Joe will be elevated even more.
TNAStingFan2008 3 years ago
They knew what they were doing? Thats not entirely true. WCW got a edge on WWE because they had guys like Hogan, Nash, Hall,etc guys who wouldn't push young talent which lead to its demise (along with bad contracts and execs interference).
P.S. TNGAY????? Show some maturity.
huvitud123 3 years ago 2
JBL = Wrestling Anti-Christ
LibreVisionNetwork 3 years ago
so wait wouldnt that make jbl a credible main eventer? i mean he beat eddie, booker, taker, angle, show. and then main evented wrestlemania with john cena.
but since it's jbl it doesnt count?
isnt that just bias, i mean you just contricted yourself, by comparing jericho and jbl.
pegasuskid236 3 years ago
but wat does that prove? jbl was not believeable as main eventer in first place and beating everyone simply does not make him any better. u dont put a guy whos a lower/mid card guy with no credibility or any mommentum being the champ, beating everyone and now hes credible. A push doesnt work this way, if it does who needs creative writer.
assuming lance cade happen to screw y2j and is the champ now and beatin hhh hbk taker etc. could u belives hes a credible champ?
hurryup123 3 years ago
your right he wasnt, thats not the arguement doug compared jericho to jbl, jericho had no momentum when he became champion as well, but like doug said he beat credible contenders and main evented wrestlemania so that makes him a credible champion.
so with doug's logic jbl can also be considered a credible champion, see how he contridicted himself in the video.
pegasuskid236 3 years ago 2
Really? WCW knows how to run a business? When was the last WCW show you went to.
huvitud123 3 years ago 2
This legends vs new guys storyline is freakin golden!
TNABEST 3 years ago 4
bill and doug for the win!!! haha but in tna if ur name isnt angle,sting,joe,jarret,nash, or booker t u aint being booked/used right, im trying to b a fan of tna but i just cant cuz there wrestlers r not being used right, and wwe isnt much better but there storylines right now r better than tna
kikizzle88 3 years ago
TNA needs improving we all know that but it won't take much man.
TNABEST 3 years ago 4
I can see what you guys are saying bout' JBL and in my opinion he should've stayed retired. Tho he was the best heel(along with Edge) World Champion the WWE has had in years.
steeltownbrown52 3 years ago
lol, TO A TEE!!!!!!!
PapaChewie 3 years ago
JBL fuckin sucks
JkiddVersion1 3 years ago
why is it the only they say made a good arguremnt is one that agrees with them?
edgame1977 3 years ago
In a sitcom I guess if a gun shoots someone and then the person lives I guess I loose credibility for it. WHY not just watch wrestling and storylines instead of talking about credibility and all this joke. Nobody cares about this im sure the fans that dont spend all day on the net being brainwased by this.
DenGual10 3 years ago
after wrestlemania 20 once lesnar and goldberg were gone there was either booker t or rvd who could have started a feud with eddie but for some insane reason bradshaw that idea proved once and for all that vince is not a genius
shittowel 3 years ago
I was unaware of the internet bs when JBL had his title reign, i was still a 'mark'. When he was having the reign i completely believed in him and took him as a credible champion. I watched him move from the APA to JBL, the only reason you two idiots dont like it is because you think your words are gospel. stfu
instantclassic27 3 years ago
you guys are so right but i still love wwe but there making big problems
wwechamp7 3 years ago
Impact scored a 1.6 back in Feb 08
thewseshow 3 years ago
But that was a 2h super benanza thing
jijgfidjidhh 3 years ago
Yes they're pushing Sonjay Dutt, but whats the point? his gimmick is crap, his storyline with Jay Lethal and So Cal Val is absoultly crap!
IrishMetal 3 years ago 3
but he's a good wrestler and has great matches, no?
patluff 3 years ago
I agree, Sonjays a very good wrestler, but with the gimmick matches he's had with Lethal have been terrible. Did you see that Tuxedo Chain match? ugh....
IrishMetal 3 years ago
Great second video big big fan from way way up North Bruce Adams
adamfear17 3 years ago
cm punk is over strong cause no one beat him for the title and now has a feud with orton which has a history. cm punk is a main player now
3rdhardy 3 years ago
JBL as champ was a joke, that pretty much killed that title for me too
chucky1x 3 years ago 3
JBL really didnt deserve a year long title run i really agree on that the guy is just boring but a really good heel sorta like robert roode back then but he is sorta cool now
hurricanekicka 3 years ago
How can we get behind guys like Jay Lethal and Sonjay Dutt when they're getting booked in ridiculous gimmick matches? Both companies have a lot of work to do to become a premier organization. For TNA, it's simple, fire Russo. For WWE, however, forcing out Vince is a lot harder. Oh yea, and just because not everyone can have Dixie's and Jeff's cock in their mouth like both of you obviously do, does not make them idiots.
asktrandall 3 years ago
The knockout division in TNA is Awesome Kong and everyone else. WWE's diva division is getting much better since they've quit doing the pillow fights and gravy matches and focused on just wrestling. WWE is putting a disgrace on the IC title with Santino and his lucky win gimmick. Santino is actually a good wrestler but WWE is focusing more on his comedic side rather than showing us more. TNA has great young wrestlers but not a lot of fans know about them.
asktrandall 3 years ago
Bill, Doug
Open your eyes, both companies suck ass. We all know Vince loves the big guys so he brings them in, no matter how green they are, and shoves them down our throats (ex. Khali, Kozlov). WWE has had a good string of PPV's lately and it seems like they can keep it going. TNA brings in the ex-WWE guys and puts a belt on them as soon as they get there, with exception to Booker T. Rhyno was the best example. I give more credibility to David Arquette as champion than I would Rhyno.
asktrandall 3 years ago
well if you look at it that way... it's a possibility and i see where you're coming from with that statement WWE has a ton of history not just with the monday night wars but back even in the 80's with hogan, andre the giant, and more but it's just that fact that WWE is no longer the way that they once were with great storylines, wrestling and promos, they had the entire thing... if they can go back to those days it would be awesome
ssj008 3 years ago
Do you guys have anything to say about WWE going TV-PG?
AFreakyDude 3 years ago
One more thing didn't you guys notice the only guy they thought who wrote to them who was "smart" was the guy that actually said TNA was good.
ecwforeverhardcore01 3 years ago
ofcourse he's smart then duh.
TNABEST 3 years ago
Hey did any of you guys know Nash is gone with TNA?
ecwforeverhardcore01 3 years ago
Bonus points for actually saying Jericho's Undisputed Title run was good.
Bongoinc 3 years ago
They havent had a memorable match in ages
come on dont be stupid ummm wwe has had a load of great matches this year. All of the undertaker vs edge matches, Ric vs HBK, cena vs HHH 2 etc. IMO wwe has not had 1 bad/CRAP PPV this year can the same be said for TNA?
Gavin48 3 years ago
i remember one scott hall interview where he was asked if that legendary ladder match at Wrestlemania against Shawn was his best match ever, and it kind of shocked me when he said "no, i felt we had better ones in house shows"
so that's the kind of dedication wwe had in the 90s i guess
RantNRavinFection 3 years ago
They make a lot of great points in this video. WWE is following the WCW blueprint. They havent had a memorable match in ages, they've taken blood out of there matches, and their playing it completely safe with the pg rating. With that being said, TNA isnt impressing anybody right now either.
MarquesVick1 3 years ago
i agree with you there, i used to love watching RAW every week, but now i only watch jericho and michaels and the rest of the show is pretty much predictable at this point
dasamyzo92 3 years ago
What? Who said I was a tough guy?
tjwwe 3 years ago
You know its funny how Bill & Doug think they know how to run a wrestling buisness like theyre Vince Mcmahon. Now wether you like Vince or You Hate him he revolutionized Wrestling he brought in into mainstream hes one that actually made wrestling known world wide. I wonder if its reason WWE is only wrestling promption shown around world where if any of the wrestlers go to any country theyre known. I wonder If TNA can say the same
ThaTopDogg13 3 years ago
A little word of advice:
If you want to get people to watch TNA, stop trying to turn this issue into a TNA vs. WWE battle. The only thing u will do is create haters and people won't tune into the product. If TNA is as good as u say it is, then they will win over people. U don't have to bash WWE all the time because it decreases ur creditability. People will say, "If WWE is crap, why do u know everything that goes on in it." IF u hate WWE, stop watching bcuz ur still supporting them.
clemred21 3 years ago 2
B&D you really think Sonjay is main event material?
Imagine him on a PPV poster is world champ.
Is that competitive?
pspower 3 years ago
AMEN ABOUT JBL!!! AMEN B&D!
TheUndertaker07478 3 years ago 3
If anyting its WWE thats slowly turning into WCW with each passing day.
ants84 3 years ago
Great video guys, seriously keep up the good work.
splitz79 3 years ago
The WWE is alot like WCW used to be in this one way: they aren't planning for the future. When the time came for guys like Raven, DDP, Steiner, Guerrero, Jericho, & Benoit to get big pushes & start moving their way up, WCW didnt do it. And like Ive said before when a young guy gets over in WWE, they cut his legs out. Like I've said, when Taker, Trips, Shawn, Jericho, Edge, & all the other biggies start retiring, things are gonna get messy.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago
I'm going to defend JBL a little bit.
Yes the push came WAY too soon. I wont fight that, but I loved the character, and I thought he was a great heel persona.
At the time, Angle was hurt, Lesnar left, Big Show was hurt, and RVD was in his near permanent limbo, so they just went nuts. JBL was given the ball and he ran with it.
NYG4LIFE123 3 years ago 3
ya jbl cannot be denied hes a tremdous heel to begin with in day one. if jbl happen to have a proper build up in mid card then he would have been a respectful champ/ main eventer. It sucks that everyone left that time and understand SD needs a new main eventer, but they could have let eddie go for long title run instead giving jbl, do a draft lottery, bring some raw guy in. WWE have lots of option but they stupid enough to allow APA bradshaw to carry the brand
hurryup123 3 years ago
lmao!..keyboard warriors!
munchbox138 3 years ago
You guys said that the RR07 promo built Kennedy up so well and then he got beat in 10 mins?
JohnnyC2H 3 years ago
And, JBL was getting pushes before he became JBL... When he was bradshaw he would wrestle singles matches against people like A-Train and Lesnar. He had left Farooq behind and was waiting for him to leave to get his push. He was in team angle at survivor series when farooq was replaced by cena
PallKariToni 3 years ago
LOL Y2J had a great reign in 2001-2002 are you crazy he was crap champ. Hell I may get bashed for this but jbl's reign was better then jerichos Undisputed reign
Gavin48 3 years ago
i agree with you but because its jericho people will probably disagree. I love y2j but that reign just didn't seem credible either. Now the present reign is very good though...so far.
mjoh5679 3 years ago
I also disagree with JBL's reign... His reign was legendary and the whole point was that he should not beat anyone he wrestled yet he did... Granted Eddie deserved a greater reign but JBL is a decent wrestler and above people like Cena, Batista, Khali, Kane, etc
PallKariToni 3 years ago
JBL owned in 2004. Blame Eddie he said he did not want to be champ and said JBL would make a great champ. BLAME EDDIE
Gavin48 3 years ago
Usually I agree with you guys, but I disagree totally with the JBL thing.
JBL had a great reign as the WWE Champion. WWE's last great WWE Champion. He did good matches, even better feuds. One of the best promo cutters in WWE Right Now. Even back then.
Batista reign though, Rey reign though, those were jokes.
JayRemington18 3 years ago 2
I hate JBL but thats his character I hate. He played a great part on TV from 2004-2005. He had this thing going every month like "How did He pull that off!?". I thought it was great and one of the last few great ideas. I would watch pay-per-view every month just to hope to see this guy lose because I hated the character JBL but the storyline was gold. He played his part great and he is very underated.
owhatarush 3 years ago
"If he beats Sting..."
No, Joe NEEDS to beat Sting.
InstantClassic8 3 years ago 2
Hell Yeah, I hate JBL just as much. JBL actually feels that CM Punk doesn't deserve any sort of push because Punk doesn't drink with the "boys" !!
ratnick 3 years ago 2
lol i love how u say JBL's title run was a joke. JBL's title run best the who's who eddie/taker/booker t/big show.
+ JBL has been putting over peeps over the last 6 months !!
nats316 3 years ago
couldnt agree more ..... i went to hard justice and literally half the arena was empty!!!! the side where the cameras are (not facing) was COMPLETELY empty
JerzeyAllPro2006 3 years ago
Samoa Joe has had one of the weakest title runs i have ever seen. It is as if they are trying to make him a complete idiot. Sonjay annot get credibility from illogical booking.
Dante1Savage 3 years ago
how is it weak? Joe beat Booker, angle, Steiner, Kaz, Won the King of the mountain. Joe's done what the previous tna champs couldn't do.
DualEagles88 3 years ago
TNA missed their opportunity to make people care about Samoa Joe being champion. They gave him the belt after what his 6th PPV confrontation with Kurt Angle? Not to mention he won the belt in a slow, worked, MMA style cage match, which was the worst of all the matches the two had together.
HaloOverHead 3 years ago
Fucking Faggot Moron,you need to be shot,for that stupid comment.
LabTec7creed 3 years ago
and do you care to explain why
Dante1Savage 3 years ago
If only JBL could see this. The fat cunt got put in his place.
tjwwe 3 years ago 3
Why would JBL a multi million dollar superstar who has headlined PPVS and entertained fans all over the world give a flying fuck what the two morons who make up STDtito4life have to say in a 10minute video that there only making again because TNA fired them? Please explain, id love to read it.
HOViskingofNY 3 years ago
He would care because it's TRUE. Actually, he wouldn't care, because he's an asshole. Oh look! You said STD tito4life!! Genius! Sexually transmitted disease! Wow!
Dude, shut the fuck up. That's childish beyond all beliefs. And if they're so mad about TNA "firing" them, then why the FUCK are they slating JBL? Who, coincidentally, works for the WWE. Why are they slating the WWE? In this video they are mainly praising TNA! You fucking IDIOT! But, maybe you're right.
I give up, seriously. I give up.
tjwwe 3 years ago
I hope you don't think that was an explanation of some sort. "He would care because its true" according to who? 2 morons with a camera and a youtube account or maybe because tjwwe the star wars obsessed GTA playing playing wannabe badass said so. Either way im pretty sure he wipes his ass with what you and your buttbuddies in the video think so continuing this conversation really is pointless i guess.
HOViskingofNY 3 years ago
Dude. You are such a cunt. So you like JBL? Come on, it doesn't take a genius to know his title reign was a complete and utter joke. These aren't just two morons. They are two wrestling fans with an opinion. JBL clearly got put in his place by two wrestling fans who KNOW what they are talking about. And WELL DONE! You looked at my channel to get to know me better! Thanks! Cunt. I like what I like. Accept it or go fuck yourself.
tjwwe 3 years ago
All i did was ask a question and make a few observations. Trust me dude these guys are passionate morons but morons none the less.
You can call JBL a joke all you want but facts will show you that he has a track record that your favorite wrestler most likely can only dream of. Victories over guerrero, big show, taker and kurt angle to name a few while being one of the longest reinging champs in the modern era. And you can like whatever you want just know the same goes for others.
HOViskingofNY 3 years ago
And one last thing, yes they still shit on the wwe but thats because thats all they have left, and unfortunately for them its all they can do right. These guys tried to go the whole pro TNA route without mentioning WWE and it got them fired because listening to them without wwe insults sucked. There boring as all hell unless they bash wwe and its pretty damn sad that so many of their subs cant understand that. Either way i get laughs out of them so i tune in to share my opinion is all.
HOViskingofNY 3 years ago
Why do you think TNA hired them in the first place you idiot? Not because they bashed the wwe. Because they spread the word of TNA. So do some research before you come on here and try to offend me.
tjwwe 3 years ago
TNA hired them because they were bias mindless TNA fanboys with a decent following of more mindless bias fanboys. TNA used them and tossed them away like the Toilet paper JBL wipes his ass with.
And i know enough about these moron because i have seen all there videos since they were on bunk beds and cutting low budget promos in closets. I even remember when they were hacked and exposed for the frauds that they are by getting free tickets for a TNA ppv show. hows that for research numbnuts.
HOViskingofNY 3 years ago
Oh God, I remember all that too. But they speak the TRUTH.
Theyre not morons cause you said so. You're a cunt with no friends.
tjwwe 3 years ago
that is so right
NAES72 3 years ago
Cena has no credibility?im sure hez pretty credible in the eyes of most fans
PINDAHRELLA 3 years ago
yeah, the kiddie fans!!!
vinnymackdx 3 years ago
well when "kiddie fans" make up alot of WWEs audience then obviously their important
PINDAHRELLA 3 years ago
yeah, i guess thats important, but at the same time it does not mean the wrestlers that appeal to the "kiddie fans" make it a good thing to the fans that enjoy great wrestling and great matches (feuds).
you do make a good point there...
vinnymackdx 3 years ago