i am a ukip member and agree with most of our polices but our devoloution policy needs to be changed its rubbish, federalise the place with 4 home nation assemblies and one national government be fair to all members
why abolish the assembly? better yet turn it into a full on parlament, claim total independence from the UK and tell jerks like this to PISS OFF. Cymru am byth!!
this guy thinks its ok for there to be british patriotism but not welsh patritism=hes a hypocritical idiot who just doesnt get devolution at all or maybe hes just a dated imperialist.but essentially what a stupid stuck up cunt fro coming to wales and trying to say we shouldnt have our own government.hes cheeky chappy routine essentiay hides the worst kind of imperialist englishman
UKIP members have asked why the party is standing against another EU withdrawalist in a seat they have little chance of winning. However, it was revealed that UKIP has a history of working with the local Labour party to split the BNPs vote. Labour activists were even used to deliver UKIP literature, and the party put up 12 candidates specifically in the Barking and Dagenham wards contested by the BNP in 2006. UKIP's leader in Barking is the brother of the Labour council leader. Suspicious!!
But it brings me back to my point again. What so brilliant that Westminister has done for the better of Cymru? Every improvements Cymru wants for Welsh issues 90% of the time Westminister will not allow it.
Have you been to North Wales? The improvements Europe has done to Cymru?? You should open your eyes a bit more. Can Cymru stand on its own feet? Of course it can just like Luxemburg, Malta, San Marino, Swistland.... shall I continue?? I should ask you why do you think Cymru cant go it alone
@arian1945 the eu pays for nothing when its uk tax payers money they are giving away, you are a strng person worshiping an organisation that gives you a tiny bit of your own taxes back, dont forget that all so called eu funding has to be matched by local tax money so you pay twice hmmmmm not a very smart person are you.
Westminister - Brussells wahts the difference??? The only thing I see is that Brussells respects Cymru. Name me one good thing Westminister has done for Cymru.
Theres no point in pointing out what we benefit from Westminster as you call it, or being British as I would. If you are so blinded that all you can see is negativity. If the EU respects Cymru, why are they legislating against our sheep farmers (see EID), and regardless of calls for it to be scrapped from ALL Welsh politicians, it is being forced on us? I don't think the Welsh dictionary has a different translation for Independence does it? Can we stand on our own two feet without support?
I SUGGEST: since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country - The EU is an evil concept bereft of democracy, funding, supporting & aiding politicians NOT people.
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU
see: CaterpillarsAndButterflies (dot) BLOGspot (dot) com
UKIP has affiliation with the BNP. UKIP supporter, member, grandson of a W2 veteran, son of a green jacket, uncle of a RAF fighter pilot and a civil servant
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
UKIP are a watered-down version of the BNP.
Basically, right-wingers in denial, still absolutely terrified of appearing "racist" or "bigoted" for telling the truth, and with not enough political conviction or courage to actually achieve anything or spread the truth as it is instead of the watered-down nit-picked, coated version that UKIP have to offer.
The BNP for sissies, basically. I'm sad to learn that Pat Condell supports these nobodies.
As you know on the news they were talking about changing welsh fisheries committe's. What you dident know is that all the fisherie officers in the area they are taking over will loose their jobs. Welsh fishing has been around for 100 years as well as the fisheries. Did you know that the advisor for fishing has never been on a boat let alone fish in one so they dont know what they are talking about
Whatever - I'd ignore the word of a UKIP supporter in less than a second. - out of 12 MEPS, so far 2 have been arrested for fraud... one of them was thrown into prison... his defence... he thought being an MEP made him immune from prosecution- the other stole funds to buy himself a new car.
A 3rd MEP was so disillusioned he left to form his own party.
When UKIP said the EU was a gravy train, they neglected to tell us that it was them taking the tax payers for the ride.
I would hardly say that Kilroy left because he was disillusioned!! More like he was on a power trip, and had disbelief that the rank and file of UKIP did not want him as their leader!
HOW MANY YEARS HAS IT BEEN NOW SINCE AUDITORS SIGNED OFF THE EU'S ACCOUNTS!!
I think the only fool is someone who wants to hand their country over to Brussels, without a shot being fired, and bend over and take it with a smile - you do not speak for everyone in Wales. It seems you have fallen for the Welsh Nati propaganda, which it is. We are not oppressed by anyone in Wales other than stupid EU rules.
Greg, something terrible must have happened in your life to make you so seething and bitter. Try putting your efforts and talent to something positive, it will feel a whole lot better, I promise you!
The astonishing thing is that EUkip has had a full time Regional Organiser on an EU paid salary and he achieved almost the sum total of nothing. The policy of intelligent strategic campaigning seeking the second vote right across Wales & Monmouthshire there was every chance of a seat. However due to corruption in the leadership election by Farage's supporters EUkip's chances in Wales were destroyed. On the new idiotic policy @ £158,000 squandered in this election EUkip were trashed!
Hi Painsey, I hae no authority to reply to these answers on behalf of the party. If it was up to me, I would allow people to defend themselves by what ever means, just as in the USA. Liberalism has ruined our country.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
What the hell does UKIP offer to the Welsh. They are a bunch of hate filled neo liberal racist little Englanders with a public school twat for a leader. Their policies will go down well in Wales, not.
I know a lot of UKIPers, not yet met any that are hate filled, or any of your other "observations". I am a Welsh UKIPer, and do not recognize your description of the party or its members.
What is this freedom you are talking of? The Welsh Assembly is just another talking shop, set up as a puppet of the EU. It has NO powers, other than to decide where to put the deck chairs on the Titanic as it sinks. 75% of all LAWS (what really matters) are made in Brussels. It sounds like you to subscribe to a very twisted version of history, and the relationship of Wales in the UK. You do not have to be a victim all you life, we make of our lives what we want. And no need to be CRASS ever.
these pathetic britons are starting to annoy me. They're not in the euro, they're not in the schengen area, they have opt-outs in 70% of policies (including foreign policy and justice) and they keep screeming for independence. As far as I'm concerned you're not in the EU. You're not even in Europe. Iceland is more integrated that you are. Just fuck off and go sucking yankee's cocks and become the 51st of America: we don't give a fuck.
I'd love to.... with your economy shrinking day after day and the pound going towards parity with the euro and beyond, soon the EU will have to bail bankrupt Britain out. Did you hear that your economy was surpassed by France this year and is going to be surpassed by Italy next year (I'll send you the link privately because Utube doesn't allow you to) This means that Europe's top 3 economies are all eurozone members, we don't need you.
The way I see it, if the UK rebate were repaid immediatetly, then that would certainly be enough to repair our economy. France and Italy are subpassing us because their farmers are given rediculus subsities by the EU, of which they countribute but little money to compared to Britain.
you dont need us we will take back our £55billion payments then you can stay out of our northsea zones you can keep your hand of our oil and gas and you can bail out club med and we will go with the global economy not some stagnant eu monster organisation
Behold the mindless rantings of an Imperialist dinosaur. Australia, Ireland, America, South Africa, India, Pakistan amongst others have slowly but surely kicked you out. And whilst currently being kicked out of Wales and Scotland, you are also being kicked out by the English in England. Your God given right to "rule the waves" is dead in the water. The English Establishment is defunct, and the only people who are too dim to realise this are people such as this idiot above.
of your party ever win the general election would you allow law abiding people to defend themselves with stun guns against yobs? or is that question to difficult for you to answer?
What have UKIP actually achieved ? lol. In all the years they have been around. Every EU policy has flown past them and they have been powerless to act. Sure they got some seats in the EU parliment, but thats it. They have to sit back and watch all that they hate, become reality. Which is good fun for Pro EU people like me to watch. (worm wiggle on a hook). The new EU treaty was the final nail in the coffin, and it was great entertainment to watch the look on UKIPs faces has it became reality.
"The world does not spin around a language" - if this is so, why was English forced on parts of the British Isles who could not speak it?
I understand your gripe with the undemocratic EU - the public have not been consulted. But the public has not really been consulted on stuff like the monarchy/House of Lords either.
"You would thought that if you lived 200 years ago my friend"
No, not 200 years ago. Pupils were beaten or shamed for speaking Celtic languages into the 1960s and early 70s in Scotland and Wales.
"get angry about Madelein McCann"
I do - all of those self-righteous tabloids pretending to be moral paragons and filling their pages, when statistically most such children are dead within 48 hours.
The number of Welsh speaking *communities* has declined in the past 40 years.
I am not anti Cymraeg, my two sons go to a playgroup where they only speak Welsh. They will then go to school and be taught in Welsh. This is our choice. Get your facts right,that is like me getting one pespective off one Plaid Cymru supporter, and saying that ALL they care about is that people speak Welsh in Wales, nothing else. We need to be united as a nation, not divided. We can all have our own unique identities. lose the victim syndrome. We all benefit from the UK
I think it is time to get things into perspective. There is more to life than a language - there are people dying everywhere of preventable diseases. There are people in our own communities suffering daily, Animal abuse, child abuse, Rapes, racist attacks, murders, thefts. Real people, real problems, real lives ruined. The world does not spin around a language, whether it be English or Welsh or whatever. If you really want to get angry about something, get angry about Madelein McCann
But you don't treat them equally. I was listening to one of your number ranting about the Welsh language roadsigns. The reason the Celtic languages (other than Breton) are on the brink is Britain itself. You can have a bilingual name, but that doesn't disguise your anti-Cymraeg tendencies.
on the brink??? You would thought that if you lived 200 years ago my friend, The Facts are more people are speaking welsh today than they have for a long, long time. Even people in south wales are speaking welsh like they havent for hundreds of years! Get your facts straight mate!
Thats a silly statement - because we are pro British does that make us anti Engliosh or anti Welsh?? No, that just makes us Pro Britain and the peoples of Britain - equally. You don't have to go through life with a chip on your shoulder. Get over it.
UKIP leader in Wales John Pratt lives on a farm in the "Canolbarth." Some years ago he received support from the EU to keep his farm going! He was given over £8,000 in support! And now he wants to get us out of the EU! What an absolute idiot! Wishing to turn his head from the truth!
The UKippers did very very badly in said elections and really do not deserve to be taken seriously any more. It's youth wing (BNP) out of the millions who voted caused hardly a ripple. Now conservatism is back on track all the old biggots are returning to their natural home.
Such a shame that people are so frustrated by politics and the EU's open door policy to immigration, that they want tomake the loudest voice they can, and they see that as voting BNP. This is not the answer, the answer is respectable politics via UKIP.
The BNP are Fascist monsters, led by football hooligans that have views no normal human would ever agree with! Plaid is a Party that believe Wales has suffered under British rule. We believe Wales should be self-governed, and should concentrate on using the EU to become a successful nation. It's not hard these days, as countries like Ireland prove! We have some of the UK's finest political minds, and the BNP have Nick Griffin! Need I say more?
This is how the European Union was imposed on the people of Europe, by stealth.
"Europe's nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation" Jean Monet
The Senedd has a European Union department, and issues regular newsletters which I receive. The Assembly buildings in Cardiff all fly the EU flag, and it is a stated policy of the EU to break Europe up into manageable regions - don't be fooled. We don't see the petrol in the car, but it wouldn't get very far without it would it! The EU is the petrol that drives the engine of the Senedd.
This man's English! Why's he telling us to get rid of our Assembly? What a load of complete cheek!
It's such a negative campaign this year. Plaid, The Lib Dems and the Conservatives are all trying to keep it positive, then that dirty slimy Labour party say "A vote for Plaid is a vote for the Tories!"
That's riddiculous! A vote for Plaid is a vote for Plaid, a party that actually does something!
Please check out our election broadcast. Nigel farage is English, yes, he is the leader of the UK party. The party arm in Wales is the one that has brought forward this years manifesto, which you can download on our website
so whats the problem then would you rather Wales didnt get the help? If you had your way proberly the money would only go to England and Wales would be left out. Nah not for me thanks Plaid Cymru the only true party for Wales,
Sorry you are incorrect come up to North Wales and you will see the inprovements Wales has had because of Europe. As for the BNP get out of Wales we are not idiots. Wales is the most tolerated Nation in the UK so back off.
There's been improvements yes, but the EU gets its money from us, so theu are not because of Europe. They are spending British money, but calling it European. The BBC website shows we give 12bln to the EU, and get just 6bln back.
But Europe is helping Wales more than England ever did. If you got into goverment Wales would become a little England and most properly you would take away our welsh signs and culture. Look how great our cousins in the Republic pf Ireland are doing and also Scotland with there own powers and also E.U grants. They are moving forward and as Nations. I`m so proud and jelious of them for becoming nations in there own right becoming a Nation . Try and see it from a Welsh point of view.
The EU is doing nothing for Wales, it takes much more money than it gives.
Furthermore, Brussels makes far more Welsh law than Westminster.
The EU is only helping out Wales at the moment, wooing the public with free prescriptions to turn the countries of the UK against each other. When they have succeeded Wales will become an insignificant speck with as much voting sway as Yorkshire.
Do you even live in Wales? The EU didn't introduce free prescriptions, the incompetent Labour party did! Europe has played a very low key part in Welsh Assembly matters since it was formed in 1999.
Plaid Cymru are utterly for Europe, and want Europe to play a bigger role in Welsh politics, because the EU has evolved past the needs of countries like England, France, Germany and the Skandinavians! It now helps smaller countries, and I'd love it to be helping Wales to achieve independance!
I do live in Wales and was schooled here - what does that have to do with anything? Wales is a part of Britain, and if you are so amorous with the EU, then you will know that a major policy of the EU is to allow people to live and work wherever they want in Europe - and this includes VOTING where they live. So as an EU subject we can move to Wales and vote as we wish, and there is nothing that you can do about it.
Of course give wales independance and while we're at it lets give scotland it and cornwall and gibraltar and the falklands and devon and yorkshire and my freakin' corner shop. Am i the only one who sees fault in breaking up the country that people have died to defend. And as for the republic of ireland that was a betrayal of the uk
True, but be truthful - if Brussels is writing all of your laws and the assembly is just rubber stamping them, who is ruling who? And where does the money come from - he who pays the piper!
I wonder if he realises that behind him, the Welsh doesn't say UK Independence Party, but "The Black Independence Party?"
brethynda123 11 months ago
i am a ukip member and agree with most of our polices but our devoloution policy needs to be changed its rubbish, federalise the place with 4 home nation assemblies and one national government be fair to all members
rulebritannia1 1 year ago
why abolish the assembly? better yet turn it into a full on parlament, claim total independence from the UK and tell jerks like this to PISS OFF. Cymru am byth!!
lunabranwen 1 year ago
this guy thinks its ok for there to be british patriotism but not welsh patritism=hes a hypocritical idiot who just doesnt get devolution at all or maybe hes just a dated imperialist.but essentially what a stupid stuck up cunt fro coming to wales and trying to say we shouldnt have our own government.hes cheeky chappy routine essentiay hides the worst kind of imperialist englishman
chrisjoneschrisjones 1 year ago
If I stayed in Wales I vore for UKIP...
welshhibby 1 year ago
UKIP members have asked why the party is standing against another EU withdrawalist in a seat they have little chance of winning. However, it was revealed that UKIP has a history of working with the local Labour party to split the BNPs vote. Labour activists were even used to deliver UKIP literature, and the party put up 12 candidates specifically in the Barking and Dagenham wards contested by the BNP in 2006. UKIP's leader in Barking is the brother of the Labour council leader. Suspicious!!
HRHPrincePhilip1 2 years ago
But it brings me back to my point again. What so brilliant that Westminister has done for the better of Cymru? Every improvements Cymru wants for Welsh issues 90% of the time Westminister will not allow it.
Have you been to North Wales? The improvements Europe has done to Cymru?? You should open your eyes a bit more. Can Cymru stand on its own feet? Of course it can just like Luxemburg, Malta, San Marino, Swistland.... shall I continue?? I should ask you why do you think Cymru cant go it alone
arian1945 2 years ago
@arian1945 the eu pays for nothing when its uk tax payers money they are giving away, you are a strng person worshiping an organisation that gives you a tiny bit of your own taxes back, dont forget that all so called eu funding has to be matched by local tax money so you pay twice hmmmmm not a very smart person are you.
rulebritannia1 1 year ago
Westminister - Brussells wahts the difference??? The only thing I see is that Brussells respects Cymru. Name me one good thing Westminister has done for Cymru.
arian1945 2 years ago
Theres no point in pointing out what we benefit from Westminster as you call it, or being British as I would. If you are so blinded that all you can see is negativity. If the EU respects Cymru, why are they legislating against our sheep farmers (see EID), and regardless of calls for it to be scrapped from ALL Welsh politicians, it is being forced on us? I don't think the Welsh dictionary has a different translation for Independence does it? Can we stand on our own two feet without support?
Britain1st 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Who to vote for - UKIP or BNP?
2009 Council by-election results
UKIP stood in 5 seats. Average percentage vote: 3.3%
BNP stood in 6 seats. Average percentage vote: 22.6%
UKIP seats won: 0
BNP seats won: 1 (Swanley-Kent)
Time to vote British vote BNP
britishresistance08 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I SUGGEST: since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country - The EU is an evil concept bereft of democracy, funding, supporting & aiding politicians NOT people.
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU
see: CaterpillarsAndButterflies (dot) BLOGspot (dot) com
and its various links.
Greg260146 3 years ago
No, the UKIP REJECTED Bnp. So get your facts right.
chod25 3 years ago
UKIP has affiliation with the BNP. UKIP supporter, member, grandson of a W2 veteran, son of a green jacket, uncle of a RAF fighter pilot and a civil servant
tjshah2 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
UKIP are a watered-down version of the BNP.
Basically, right-wingers in denial, still absolutely terrified of appearing "racist" or "bigoted" for telling the truth, and with not enough political conviction or courage to actually achieve anything or spread the truth as it is instead of the watered-down nit-picked, coated version that UKIP have to offer.
The BNP for sissies, basically. I'm sad to learn that Pat Condell supports these nobodies.
Sorry, just telling the truth
bnp. org. uk
ScotsBNP 3 years ago
Ahhh......The smiling face of facism!!
Monthagny 3 years ago
As you know on the news they were talking about changing welsh fisheries committe's. What you dident know is that all the fisherie officers in the area they are taking over will loose their jobs. Welsh fishing has been around for 100 years as well as the fisheries. Did you know that the advisor for fishing has never been on a boat let alone fish in one so they dont know what they are talking about
wassemblyg 3 years ago
That's terrible.
As a welshman, I think we need to take our fishing rights back from the meddling governments in Brussels and Westminser.
maxfm82 3 years ago
Whatever - I'd ignore the word of a UKIP supporter in less than a second. - out of 12 MEPS, so far 2 have been arrested for fraud... one of them was thrown into prison... his defence... he thought being an MEP made him immune from prosecution- the other stole funds to buy himself a new car.
A 3rd MEP was so disillusioned he left to form his own party.
When UKIP said the EU was a gravy train, they neglected to tell us that it was them taking the tax payers for the ride.
maxfm82 3 years ago
I would hardly say that Kilroy left because he was disillusioned!! More like he was on a power trip, and had disbelief that the rank and file of UKIP did not want him as their leader!
HOW MANY YEARS HAS IT BEEN NOW SINCE AUDITORS SIGNED OFF THE EU'S ACCOUNTS!!
humview 3 years ago 3
Yep - I think a lot of politians at all levels have their 'hand in the till'.
I voted for UKIP last time as I thought they'd go in and sort it things out in Europe... but then I didn't expect them to behave worse!
maxfm82 3 years ago
Nigel Farage is a courageous and admirable man. The English Ron Paul, I daresay.
RosstaPharian 3 years ago 2
He said à propos. A French word. I say he should be removed.......English words for English people. None of this foreign mumbo jumbo.
hulloooooh 3 years ago
this guy is a fool vote plaid then we will get freedom from this english propaganda!!! UK sucks and we WANT OUT!!!
MEGALUKE 3 years ago
I think the only fool is someone who wants to hand their country over to Brussels, without a shot being fired, and bend over and take it with a smile - you do not speak for everyone in Wales. It seems you have fallen for the Welsh Nati propaganda, which it is. We are not oppressed by anyone in Wales other than stupid EU rules.
humview 3 years ago 2
i admire Nigel Farage
agfigueroaa 3 years ago
Greg, something terrible must have happened in your life to make you so seething and bitter. Try putting your efforts and talent to something positive, it will feel a whole lot better, I promise you!
Britain1st 3 years ago
The astonishing thing is that EUkip has had a full time Regional Organiser on an EU paid salary and he achieved almost the sum total of nothing. The policy of intelligent strategic campaigning seeking the second vote right across Wales & Monmouthshire there was every chance of a seat. However due to corruption in the leadership election by Farage's supporters EUkip's chances in Wales were destroyed. On the new idiotic policy @ £158,000 squandered in this election EUkip were trashed!
Greg260146 3 years ago
oh well no answer yet to my difficult question
painsey 3 years ago
Hi Painsey, I hae no authority to reply to these answers on behalf of the party. If it was up to me, I would allow people to defend themselves by what ever means, just as in the USA. Liberalism has ruined our country.
Britain1st 3 years ago
how can you say that hes a hero that talks the truth
sonycamera111 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
What the hell does UKIP offer to the Welsh. They are a bunch of hate filled neo liberal racist little Englanders with a public school twat for a leader. Their policies will go down well in Wales, not.
patarciepaul 3 years ago
I know a lot of UKIPers, not yet met any that are hate filled, or any of your other "observations". I am a Welsh UKIPer, and do not recognize your description of the party or its members.
Britain1st 3 years ago
Suck my Balls UKIP! Abolish the Welsh Assembly and sell the building? Imperialist Bastards...You will never take away what little freedom we have!
86celt 3 years ago
What is this freedom you are talking of? The Welsh Assembly is just another talking shop, set up as a puppet of the EU. It has NO powers, other than to decide where to put the deck chairs on the Titanic as it sinks. 75% of all LAWS (what really matters) are made in Brussels. It sounds like you to subscribe to a very twisted version of history, and the relationship of Wales in the UK. You do not have to be a victim all you life, we make of our lives what we want. And no need to be CRASS ever.
Britain1st 3 years ago 3
these pathetic britons are starting to annoy me. They're not in the euro, they're not in the schengen area, they have opt-outs in 70% of policies (including foreign policy and justice) and they keep screeming for independence. As far as I'm concerned you're not in the EU. You're not even in Europe. Iceland is more integrated that you are. Just fuck off and go sucking yankee's cocks and become the 51st of America: we don't give a fuck.
CaesarAugustus1987 3 years ago
KICK US OUT THEN!
Independence4Britain 3 years ago
I'd love to.... with your economy shrinking day after day and the pound going towards parity with the euro and beyond, soon the EU will have to bail bankrupt Britain out. Did you hear that your economy was surpassed by France this year and is going to be surpassed by Italy next year (I'll send you the link privately because Utube doesn't allow you to) This means that Europe's top 3 economies are all eurozone members, we don't need you.
CaesarAugustus1987 3 years ago
The way I see it, if the UK rebate were repaid immediatetly, then that would certainly be enough to repair our economy. France and Italy are subpassing us because their farmers are given rediculus subsities by the EU, of which they countribute but little money to compared to Britain.
Independence4Britain 3 years ago 4
you dont need us we will take back our £55billion payments then you can stay out of our northsea zones you can keep your hand of our oil and gas and you can bail out club med and we will go with the global economy not some stagnant eu monster organisation
rulebritannia1 2 years ago
Ferocious gibberish
Jenkolippy 4 years ago
In what way is it ferocious? Plus it seems to me that he's being quite eloquent, so how gibberish??? Get a grip.
sosnam 3 years ago
Pray tell, what are you views on the promotion of the Welsh language and culture so that it can continue to develop?
Murray09 4 years ago
shut up you dumb ignorant clown!
carnivore74 4 years ago
wake up uk tell every one about ukip and get our freedom back vote ukip now
skulls23 4 years ago
Behold the mindless rantings of an Imperialist dinosaur. Australia, Ireland, America, South Africa, India, Pakistan amongst others have slowly but surely kicked you out. And whilst currently being kicked out of Wales and Scotland, you are also being kicked out by the English in England. Your God given right to "rule the waves" is dead in the water. The English Establishment is defunct, and the only people who are too dim to realise this are people such as this idiot above.
Murray09 4 years ago
By mindless ranting, are you refering to yourself here? Because it certainly sounds mindless, and a rant at that!
Britain1st 4 years ago
Thank you for your contribution to the debate.
Britain1st 4 years ago
Thank you for being so gracious
Murray09 4 years ago
Thank you for being so gracious
Murray09 4 years ago
of your party ever win the general election would you allow law abiding people to defend themselves with stun guns against yobs? or is that question to difficult for you to answer?
painsey 3 years ago
HOW THE GOVERNMENT HAS DECLARED WAR ON WHITE ENGLISH PEOPLE
please read from the daily express website...
h t t p : / / w w w . express . c o . uk /ourcomments /vi ew/15991
take out the spaces
READ IT IF YOU DARE!
time to vote BNP
bnprenaissance 4 years ago
'british resistance' thats hilarious eussr! it just gets better....
robinofleiceste 4 years ago
What have UKIP actually achieved ? lol. In all the years they have been around. Every EU policy has flown past them and they have been powerless to act. Sure they got some seats in the EU parliment, but thats it. They have to sit back and watch all that they hate, become reality. Which is good fun for Pro EU people like me to watch. (worm wiggle on a hook). The new EU treaty was the final nail in the coffin, and it was great entertainment to watch the look on UKIPs faces has it became reality.
Streamenterers 4 years ago
"The world does not spin around a language" - if this is so, why was English forced on parts of the British Isles who could not speak it?
I understand your gripe with the undemocratic EU - the public have not been consulted. But the public has not really been consulted on stuff like the monarchy/House of Lords either.
BobMonkfish 4 years ago
"You would thought that if you lived 200 years ago my friend"
No, not 200 years ago. Pupils were beaten or shamed for speaking Celtic languages into the 1960s and early 70s in Scotland and Wales.
"get angry about Madelein McCann"
I do - all of those self-righteous tabloids pretending to be moral paragons and filling their pages, when statistically most such children are dead within 48 hours.
The number of Welsh speaking *communities* has declined in the past 40 years.
BobMonkfish 4 years ago
I am not anti Cymraeg, my two sons go to a playgroup where they only speak Welsh. They will then go to school and be taught in Welsh. This is our choice. Get your facts right,that is like me getting one pespective off one Plaid Cymru supporter, and saying that ALL they care about is that people speak Welsh in Wales, nothing else. We need to be united as a nation, not divided. We can all have our own unique identities. lose the victim syndrome. We all benefit from the UK
Britain1st 4 years ago
I think it is time to get things into perspective. There is more to life than a language - there are people dying everywhere of preventable diseases. There are people in our own communities suffering daily, Animal abuse, child abuse, Rapes, racist attacks, murders, thefts. Real people, real problems, real lives ruined. The world does not spin around a language, whether it be English or Welsh or whatever. If you really want to get angry about something, get angry about Madelein McCann
Britain1st 4 years ago
But you don't treat them equally. I was listening to one of your number ranting about the Welsh language roadsigns. The reason the Celtic languages (other than Breton) are on the brink is Britain itself. You can have a bilingual name, but that doesn't disguise your anti-Cymraeg tendencies.
BobMonkfish 4 years ago
on the brink??? You would thought that if you lived 200 years ago my friend, The Facts are more people are speaking welsh today than they have for a long, long time. Even people in south wales are speaking welsh like they havent for hundreds of years! Get your facts straight mate!
Brit4Ever85 4 years ago
UKIP is anti-Welsh. If they supported Wales, they would want to ditch both Brussels and Westminster.
BobMonkfish 4 years ago
Thats a silly statement - because we are pro British does that make us anti Engliosh or anti Welsh?? No, that just makes us Pro Britain and the peoples of Britain - equally. You don't have to go through life with a chip on your shoulder. Get over it.
Britain1st 4 years ago
UKIP leader in Wales John Pratt lives on a farm in the "Canolbarth." Some years ago he received support from the EU to keep his farm going! He was given over £8,000 in support! And now he wants to get us out of the EU! What an absolute idiot! Wishing to turn his head from the truth!
ronaldinhollew 4 years ago
The UKippers did very very badly in said elections and really do not deserve to be taken seriously any more. It's youth wing (BNP) out of the millions who voted caused hardly a ripple. Now conservatism is back on track all the old biggots are returning to their natural home.
corksand 4 years ago
Such a shame that people are so frustrated by politics and the EU's open door policy to immigration, that they want tomake the loudest voice they can, and they see that as voting BNP. This is not the answer, the answer is respectable politics via UKIP.
Britain1st 4 years ago
Nigel Farage is a good man, His party are getting my vote today!
For Britain and Commonwealth!
burslemboy 4 years ago
The BNP are Fascist monsters, led by football hooligans that have views no normal human would ever agree with! Plaid is a Party that believe Wales has suffered under British rule. We believe Wales should be self-governed, and should concentrate on using the EU to become a successful nation. It's not hard these days, as countries like Ireland prove! We have some of the UK's finest political minds, and the BNP have Nick Griffin! Need I say more?
ronaldinhollew 4 years ago
This is how the European Union was imposed on the people of Europe, by stealth.
"Europe's nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation" Jean Monet
rcoones102 4 years ago
The Senedd has a European Union department, and issues regular newsletters which I receive. The Assembly buildings in Cardiff all fly the EU flag, and it is a stated policy of the EU to break Europe up into manageable regions - don't be fooled. We don't see the petrol in the car, but it wouldn't get very far without it would it! The EU is the petrol that drives the engine of the Senedd.
Britain1st 4 years ago
This man's English! Why's he telling us to get rid of our Assembly? What a load of complete cheek!
It's such a negative campaign this year. Plaid, The Lib Dems and the Conservatives are all trying to keep it positive, then that dirty slimy Labour party say "A vote for Plaid is a vote for the Tories!"
That's riddiculous! A vote for Plaid is a vote for Plaid, a party that actually does something!
ronaldinhollew 4 years ago
Please check out our election broadcast. Nigel farage is English, yes, he is the leader of the UK party. The party arm in Wales is the one that has brought forward this years manifesto, which you can download on our website
Britain1st 4 years ago
so whats the problem then would you rather Wales didnt get the help? If you had your way proberly the money would only go to England and Wales would be left out. Nah not for me thanks Plaid Cymru the only true party for Wales,
arthddu23 4 years ago
Sorry you are incorrect come up to North Wales and you will see the inprovements Wales has had because of Europe. As for the BNP get out of Wales we are not idiots. Wales is the most tolerated Nation in the UK so back off.
arthddu23 4 years ago
There's been improvements yes, but the EU gets its money from us, so theu are not because of Europe. They are spending British money, but calling it European. The BBC website shows we give 12bln to the EU, and get just 6bln back.
dbbb220 4 years ago
Vote BNP it's the only real option for a genuine change
Longshanks1977 4 years ago
geniune change if you like concentration camps.
comradesteele 4 years ago
But Europe is helping Wales more than England ever did. If you got into goverment Wales would become a little England and most properly you would take away our welsh signs and culture. Look how great our cousins in the Republic pf Ireland are doing and also Scotland with there own powers and also E.U grants. They are moving forward and as Nations. I`m so proud and jelious of them for becoming nations in there own right becoming a Nation . Try and see it from a Welsh point of view.
arthddu23 4 years ago
The EU is doing nothing for Wales, it takes much more money than it gives.
Furthermore, Brussels makes far more Welsh law than Westminster.
The EU is only helping out Wales at the moment, wooing the public with free prescriptions to turn the countries of the UK against each other. When they have succeeded Wales will become an insignificant speck with as much voting sway as Yorkshire.
The EU cannot help Wales.
tito2502 4 years ago
Do you even live in Wales? The EU didn't introduce free prescriptions, the incompetent Labour party did! Europe has played a very low key part in Welsh Assembly matters since it was formed in 1999.
Plaid Cymru are utterly for Europe, and want Europe to play a bigger role in Welsh politics, because the EU has evolved past the needs of countries like England, France, Germany and the Skandinavians! It now helps smaller countries, and I'd love it to be helping Wales to achieve independance!
ronaldinhollew 4 years ago
I do live in Wales and was schooled here - what does that have to do with anything? Wales is a part of Britain, and if you are so amorous with the EU, then you will know that a major policy of the EU is to allow people to live and work wherever they want in Europe - and this includes VOTING where they live. So as an EU subject we can move to Wales and vote as we wish, and there is nothing that you can do about it.
Britain1st 4 years ago
Of course give wales independance and while we're at it lets give scotland it and cornwall and gibraltar and the falklands and devon and yorkshire and my freakin' corner shop. Am i the only one who sees fault in breaking up the country that people have died to defend. And as for the republic of ireland that was a betrayal of the uk
hamsterwaffle 4 years ago 2
nah time to move on Plaid Cymru is the only party for the Nation of Wales if smaller countries can rule themsleves we have a right to aswell
arthddu23 4 years ago
True, but be truthful - if Brussels is writing all of your laws and the assembly is just rubber stamping them, who is ruling who? And where does the money come from - he who pays the piper!
Britain1st 4 years ago
Smaller , RICHER countrys.
comradesteele 4 years ago