There are many different bronze alloys but modern bronze is typically 88% copper and 12% tin. Brass alloys are made with zinc which is why it can never be used in a boat as the zinc will be leached out of the copper by electrolysis.
@jasonthemauler You've got that backwards, it's brass that must contain zinc, bronze is a more generic term for any copper based alloy. When the word bronze is used on its own, it usually means a copper and tin alloy. When different metals are alloyed with the copper, it'll usually be explicitly stated such as silicon bronze or aluminium bronze.
@85rocco Sorry, I meant to say that bronze must contain tin, but still, both bronze and brass need zinc; otherwise, it's just a copper-alloy. So you still need zinc!
I only know because I've done a fair amount of backyard alloying, and I've done my research.
Copper is copper. Tin in tin cans is rarely tin. It's best if you're alloying to get "real" tin.
Tin is an expensive metal.
When flinging unknown alloys into copper, you will end up with either a bronze or a brass, but you will have zero quality control... it will be hit and miss.
I like to know what alloy I'm going to end up with.
@davebestmusic Personally I would get 9000 grams of granulated copper, or copper scrap if you can't get granulated. Set up a micro furnace or a mini furnace, and you'll be able to turn that into approximately 10kg for 90/10 bronze.
Well in Australia where I am tin foil is aluminium foil. If you could get the aluminium foil not to vaporise, and you had a sufficient quantity by weight. You would make aluminium bronze.
copper penny no that is illegel melting them that is a fedaral crime nut still it woldent work you need tin foil and copper leaf or foil sorry for my spelling not good at it
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you are a fucking noob who dont no how to make bronze its not that color only the tin can melt or a copper wire your torch isn't engouh hot to melt bronze its a piece of tin.
@HomemadeThing Constructive commentary would have been more useful to this poster.
Part 1.
1) solder is not tin, but contains tin, and other elements like lead, even lead free solder is not plain tin, but an alloy.
2) A propane torch is hot enough to melt bronze, in fact a Bernzomatic JTH-7 will do the job nicely. You would need to get a couple of adapters to attach it to a POL cylinder to make it more economical than using small disposable cylinders.
3) Bronze is not simply one formulation. The material in this video is a bronze alloy, but it's a mystery bronze alloy. One of my favorite mixtures is 90/10, but another I make on occasion is 80/20 (Bell metal) and is quite silver. Bronze comes in a range of alloys.
4) If you call someone names, make sure it's justified, and that you have a video of your own to back it up.
There are many different bronze alloys but modern bronze is typically 88% copper and 12% tin. Brass alloys are made with zinc which is why it can never be used in a boat as the zinc will be leached out of the copper by electrolysis.
ThePescavore 1 month ago
Impressive! but you are not a Jedi Yet!!!!!
KerPlunkItDude 11 months ago
Hmmm. There must be a better way... I'm sure the ancients wouldn't approve.
Grimgorus 1 year ago
Bronze must contain ZINC. If you combine copper and tin, but there's no zinc, it's just brass; not bronze
jasonthemauler 1 year ago
@jasonthemauler You've got that backwards, it's brass that must contain zinc, bronze is a more generic term for any copper based alloy. When the word bronze is used on its own, it usually means a copper and tin alloy. When different metals are alloyed with the copper, it'll usually be explicitly stated such as silicon bronze or aluminium bronze.
85rocco 1 year ago
@85rocco Sorry, I meant to say that bronze must contain tin, but still, both bronze and brass need zinc; otherwise, it's just a copper-alloy. So you still need zinc!
jasonthemauler 1 year ago
I only know because I've done a fair amount of backyard alloying, and I've done my research.
Copper is copper. Tin in tin cans is rarely tin. It's best if you're alloying to get "real" tin.
Tin is an expensive metal.
When flinging unknown alloys into copper, you will end up with either a bronze or a brass, but you will have zero quality control... it will be hit and miss.
I like to know what alloy I'm going to end up with.
charlesian2000 2 years ago
that tourch reminded me of a song i made up DONT YA WISH YOUR BLOW TOURCH WAS HOT LIKE ME LOL I KNOW NEEDS WORK
wolvenblacktalon1 2 years ago
Hey man i have collected 1000 grams of tin, and this metal is very weak. Is there any way to make it stronger?
davebestmusic 2 years ago
@davebestmusic Personally I would get 9000 grams of granulated copper, or copper scrap if you can't get granulated. Set up a micro furnace or a mini furnace, and you'll be able to turn that into approximately 10kg for 90/10 bronze.
charlesian2000 2 years ago
Can you use a copper penny and tin foil? lol but seriously
physcovideos 2 years ago
Well in Australia where I am tin foil is aluminium foil. If you could get the aluminium foil not to vaporise, and you had a sufficient quantity by weight. You would make aluminium bronze.
charlesian2000 2 years ago
thanks-i'm from canada
physcovideos 2 years ago
copper penny no that is illegel melting them that is a fedaral crime nut still it woldent work you need tin foil and copper leaf or foil sorry for my spelling not good at it
wolvenblacktalon1 2 years ago
cool?....
MrConner227 2 years ago
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you are a fucking noob who dont no how to make bronze its not that color only the tin can melt or a copper wire your torch isn't engouh hot to melt bronze its a piece of tin.
HomemadeThing 2 years ago
fuck you homemadething
MacsCanfly 2 years ago
@HomemadeThing Constructive commentary would have been more useful to this poster.
Part 1.
1) solder is not tin, but contains tin, and other elements like lead, even lead free solder is not plain tin, but an alloy.
2) A propane torch is hot enough to melt bronze, in fact a Bernzomatic JTH-7 will do the job nicely. You would need to get a couple of adapters to attach it to a POL cylinder to make it more economical than using small disposable cylinders.
charlesian2000 2 years ago
@HomemadeThing
Part 2.
3) Bronze is not simply one formulation. The material in this video is a bronze alloy, but it's a mystery bronze alloy. One of my favorite mixtures is 90/10, but another I make on occasion is 80/20 (Bell metal) and is quite silver. Bronze comes in a range of alloys.
4) If you call someone names, make sure it's justified, and that you have a video of your own to back it up.
charlesian2000 2 years ago
homemadething is a noob who cant type for shit.
youtoober19125 2 years ago
it came in a wire coil i think it was solder or sumtin
cowsrcool7658 2 years ago
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Well done dude. If you're interested in doing more let me know. I can put you in touch with others in your country.
charlesian2000 2 years ago
were did you find the tin i want to melt it 499oF i could do it with my magnyfying glass
megamaniac1 2 years ago
oh chill i made a new alloy of 67% aluminum and 33% tin its useless but cool
cowsrcool7658 2 years ago
nice man im working on making an alloy and i will post a vid respones when its fineshed
theblackcuriass 2 years ago
pretty cool
drzoidberg223 2 years ago
wow still no comments
cowsrcool7658 3 years ago