Okay we all become influenced by others and we do take ideas and make them our own But, what is been well documented and said by so many musicians in the industry is that Jimmy Page is not only a good copy cat but a very good thief.. nothing wrong with that as Steve Jobs said Good artists copy great artists steal that's Jimmy Page and Led Zeppelin and many others.... there are only a few real artistes in the world and we do not have any at this time...
Another testiment to one of the most loved singers in Rock History. It's a shame more don't even know about him. Hopefully youtube will help them catch on.
you guys know that led zeppelin made a cover of this and muddy waters song and put them together and end up with whole lotta love. small faces didn't make a cover, led zeppelin did
Regardless of the squabbles posted here. The fact is; If it wasn't for Steve Marriot, there would have been no Robert Plant. The proof is right in the audio. Not to say this is a bad thing at all, ... but maybe, .... just maybe, someday Plant will toss his little girlie shirt, man up to the plate, & put the credit where it's due? (yea right).
A book called "When Giants Walked the Earth" by Mick Wall gives a good insight into the early Zep days and yeah they did indeed plagiarize, as did lots of other bands. This very song is a steal of Willie Dixon...... Ian MacLagan the keyboardist is quoted stating this fact. If it sounds good, its good....
Let's call a spade a spade here. It's not a question of Led Zeppelin stealing from Small faces etc ...it's a question of the whole of the British invasion being a mass theft of art from the underclass. Then once the theft is complete they change the copyright laws in 1977
@mlmr11 Yeah right. Like songs like Mad John, ItchyCoo Park, Ogden Nut Gone Flake, Lazy Sunday etc are big blues numbers. Steve Marriot was born in Manor Park and weighed less than 5ib at birth so rich was his family. While your at it remind which member of your mythical 'underclass' wrote Waterloo Sunset or Shangri La for the Kinks apart from Ray Davies another genuine working class boy. These people had talent to burn and certainly dont need to be patronised by tossers like you.
@aminorchacha I don't care what they think of me . Because it's probably the same thing they think of you. The sooner you realize that the better off you'll be
Who gives a toss about who got there first (Muddy waters, the Small Faces or Led Zep). This is an absolutely stunning cover of the Willie Dixon song. The whole band not just Marriot are absolutely playing out of their boots.
When I hear Whole Lotta Love and You Need Love I dont hear a simliar song. Sure might be the same lyrics but its a totally different style and playing. Dont diss Led Zeppelin may have plagerized but they have a few classics of there own. Zeppelin
defined a generation but so did small faces just in different area. Btw what Sid1Cicious comment was very vague in his comment, They didnt change a rhythm. They changed the whole song. Please can we stop arguing and just listen to the music
When I hear Whole Lotta Love and You Need Love I dont hear a simliar song. Sure might be the same lyrics but its a totally different style and playing. Dont Led Zeppelin may have plagerized but they have a few classics of there own. Zeppelin
defined a generation but so did small faces just in different area. Btw what Sid1Cicious comment was very vague in his comment, They didnt change a rhythm. They changed the whole song. Please can we stop arguing and just listen to the music
I don't understand why everybody is hating on Led Zeppelin and them "stealing songs" they are covers. Over half of Cream's catalog is covers. If it wasn't for Zeppelin, i wouldn't even be listening to this song, or it's sad, even the Muddy Waters original
And it's not like they couldn't write any great songs on their own (for that there are plenty of examples). But maybe Page and/or Plant was/were too haughty to even care about people knowing he/they was/were plagiarizing. Maybe they were afraid they couldn't reach the level of success they wanted without doing that because of lack of confidence on their songwriting skills, who knows? Still, they are excellent performers and, as a band, one of the best live acts ever.
Led Zep, I used to dig their music a lot but now they're just a joke for me because of all the songs they blatantly plagiarized and didn't give any credit for the actual composers at all on their own will. And I know many people may say "They did it their own way". But, really, it's just like they were jammin' along to the songs they copied, maybe changing a rhythm here, adding some lyrics or verses there, playing a lengthy, self-indulgent solo over there, changing the song title maybe...
Zeppelin's version is just way cooler - they just stole other people's music and gave it something awesome that it was missing. They were shameless thieves but their power crushes.
Still I have not seen one song yet, that Marriott sings better than Plant. Yes Plant hung out with the Small Faces,,yes,they wanted their drummer at one time,but Robert Plant went above and beyond Steve Marriott,,in the type of songs Robert sang. Yes Marriott had a bigger voice range, but Plant knew he was better,,and he is!
Just remember. Steve Marriott also stole this. This is Willie" Dixons! They took from these blues artists that weren't that well off, and ran with their genius.
So while Robert Plant stole here not only from Mr Dixon, but he stole from Marriots style of singing, however, they both took from Mr Dixon.
Plant sounds like Janis Joplin, after '69 after the Second Album. It wasn't until the 3rd album, where he started changing that singing style. Prior, and if you listen to the style Steve Marriott used on "You Need Loving", Plant not only lifted the style, but also the words!
It wasn't just black guys that Led Zep ripped off.Physical Graffiti's "Boogie with Stu" was just theft of Ritchie Valen's "Ooh My Head".I notice with the re-mastered C.D. "Mrs.Valens" gets a credit-just another Led Zep court case I guess.
@wellsy1954 The credit to Mrs. Valens was there from the beginning: It was LZ's attempt to give her some credit, given that she didn't get any royalties after her son was killed. Unfortunately, the move backfired, and they finished up getting sued.
hubby and I have had so many discussions over this,,,,I knew it was Small Faces as I bought the LP in 1967 but he was convinced it was a Zeppelin original....thanks for putting the record straight xxxx
In music everyone "borrows" from one another, its a fact. The old blues and folk artists "borrowed" alot from each other and made a profit on it so putting down zepp without mentioning the fact that the small faces did the same thing and got away with it is ridiculous. Zepp went to court over their "borrowing" and they got in trouble for the lyrics and not the music, because the music was new and lyrics were not. Plant did this out of respect for his idols just clapton did with his solos.
What people need to take into account is that when the Small Faces and Led Zeppelin lifted "You Need Love" for their respective 'interpretations', the rules of copyright were not well understood, or at least not as well enforced. This was back when bands were largely free to use the work of others as a basis for their own works, unlike today where people sue each other left and right. Anyway, trying to spread animosity benefits no one. Peace.
It's NOT the fact that Zeppelin recorded this song, or if they did it better than others (debatable, but not important) like the Small Faces. It is the fact that TOOK CREDIT FOR WRITING IT WHEN THEY DIDN'T on their album that bothers folks. Many a song writer did not get their just dues cause Zeppelin did this, to a lot of the songs they recorded and put out on their albums.
Plant was a huge fan of Marriott.I even read somewhere he asked him to do this song.Don't know if it's true. Anyway...as a musician I must say this campaign against them is unfair. They took ideas from songs almost forgotten at the time. They never copied them but completely rewrote them into something different. Every musician does it! Willingly or not. Our music is music of our ancestors plus that little sparkle of ourselves. When the sparkle changes into a fire, magic happens.Like Zepp or SF.
@zeppelinn well your facts are skewed Marriott was the benchmark Page wanted and Plant had qualities like him. When Steve heard the song he was like more power to the young brother. He felt like that probably because he knew the sound was a rip off of his. He had the class to not put Plant down publicly.
When the tables were turned Plant takes every opportunity it seems to bad mouth David Coverdale. How can he call him David Coverversion when David has a much more superior voice?
@voltronsbabi Man,there's no one with superior voice to one other.I mean,there is but only in our minds.I personally like Plant a lot better than D.C.It's just..when I listen to something C. did it doesn't move me.I don't feel anything.And that's it.Maybe you do but I don't.And that is what matters.I also think when Plant was on his prime(1970-71)no one could stand against him.Unfortunately his voice wore off short after that. But that isn't important,it's just what you feel about each other.
i dont believe its the song in question here its the style that plant who ripped it straight off and thats the crime , faces made nothing got robbed blind by sharon osbournes dad there is a movie all about them working class lads who got robbed same old story while the middle class public schoolboys always do well imagine the beatles without Epstein under the influence of some cockney spiv who's john lennon you would be asking
Look I'm no Zep Hater but Stevie did this first .. Anyway there is no denying Zep put their own unmistakeable stamp on what is one of rocks classics . I have heard an interview with Robert Plant where he said when he started out he wanted to be like Steve Marriott - so even he has acknowledged one of his greatest influences ..
Most , if not all the classic british based blues/Rock artists drew heavily and in some cases directly pinched from the Blues and soul masters - not just el zeppo !!
Um, this is not the original version of this song. That would be the Muddy Waters version, on which the author Willie Dixon plays bass.
However, Plant, who greatly admired Steve Marriott, is clearly doing a Marriott impression on "Whole Lotta Love." That being said, Marriott's vocal is great, but Plant's is other-wordly.
No, we know that SF stole this song from Muddy Waters. But the truth is that Robert Plant stole his vocal delivery straight from Marriott/SF interpretation - not from Muddy's. If you think otherwise it means you're deaf.
@xJayWalkerx I'm not death, I was just pointing out that people are saying that Led Zep stole this SONG (not vocal style) from the Small Faces, despite the original being a Muddy Waters song. I never once mentioned the vocals in my first post. If you think otherwise it means you're illiterate
zep hit at the right time! the 1960 boomer in u.s. ,for the recrd 1960 had the most babes born on record. good thing my fave band is sabbath, that way proves i never supported these satanist ripoff fags
I'm not gonna say that Plant is a rip off, like some here, but he should have acknowledged the creativity that preceded his singing. If this was a novel there would be a clear plagiarism issue... lots of rip offs exist in music... it's a highly influential medium and my right to sing a tune is the same as anyone's, but, this was clearly taken to a limit not often seen...
I prefer Page and Bonham who were the "monsters" in Zepplin...give credit to those due it. They did a great cover and arrangement of a song appreciated long before the late sixties and sure Plant had ...and I mean had a great voice but Dixon, Waters and the Faces were doing "You Need Love"/Whole Lotta Love" before them and doing it good.
Just for the record I can name 19 songs that Zep (arguably) "borrowed" (or just took). Jake Holmes has begged them to put his name as a credit on "Dazed and Confused" and they refuse to do it. Look into some of this before you just run to Zep's defense. I play in a Zeppelin tribute band so believe me, I am a big fan of theirs but right is right.
@MrQuinceymagoo Before you go defaming Zeppelin, take a look at the artists they "stole" from...and you'll realize they all stole from each other. Blues, folk and jazz music are based around "borrowing."
Also: It's funny, but...The Small Faces were never sued and never gave proper credit to Willie Dixon.
@crazymanwhois I understand what you are saying and it is a very valid point. I didn't use the word "stole" (you did) however and I didn't think that I was "defaming" Led Zeppelin. The one thing that I will say in response to your comment is that those other blues artists who all stole from each other (according you) didn't make much money doing it.
@crazymanwhois Zep COPYWROTE songs in their own name that they knowingly didn't write and made a great deal of money doing it. In fairness Jimmy changed a lot of the riffs but Robert just took the lyrics verbatim many times.
@MrQuinceymagoo NO LED ZEPPELIN IS COMPLETLY ORIGINAL JAKE HOLMES DID NOT WRITE THAT...... AND THE BEACH BOYS DID NOT RIP OFF CHUCK BERRY WITH SWEET LITTLE SIXTEEN/SURFIN USA
@QueenetBowie But then again, in the writing credits for Surfin' USA, they did mention Chuck Berry as a writer. So there really was no plagiarizing per se in Sweet Little Sixteen/Surfin' USA
@bpabustan Originally Brian claimed he didn't "borrow" the melody from sweet little sixteen. If I reember correctly Chuck Berry ended up suing so that he would have his name put on the credits for Surfin USA
@socrates1818 im tired of these faggots saying nothing was original and they suck after hearing one song thats even remotely close to another, whatever happened to the question of which sounds better? or the countless tunes led zeppelin DID come up with that you seem to be clueless to their existance? what about the fact that jimmy page improvised better than anyone?
@truthtopower You have it backwards. Steve was a far superior showman and Plant himself acknowledges Steve was a much better singer. There are many reasons why Plant is far better known today than Steve Marriott, but their relative talent level ain't one of them.
that´s your point of view, but do not dis the rest of Zeppelins work!
What about 60 other great and fantastic Zeppelin songs? Do you forget about them? Every single musician that worked during the 70ies, 80ies and later on at least copied one of his idols, even their songs! It´s their influence where their style came from.
I hope your comment was meant ironically, otherwise I cant get up to your words.
i had the good fortune to see them both . Zep in Dallas 1977 and Marriott in Ft Worth in 1982. i like them both.but Marriott gave me goosebumps . my fav is Afterglow of your love. Ronnie Lane, saw him too. Greatness all of them.
@angelangel3000 Sorry but I totally disagree. Led Zepplin's sound & style were totally different from the Small Faces, The Black Crowes have other role models to follow (S.F.'s two U.S. number ones were towards the end of their lifespan), and as for the Who... You MUST be kidding, the Who formed over a year earlier & their first two singles had been UK hits before the Small Faces recorded their first track. If there's an influence there, it's the Who on the Faces, not the other way around.
In this case, Plant pickup in the original lyrics, Page invented an AMAZING riff, and with the powerful drums of Bonham, the amazing bass of Jones and a bit of DELICIOUS solos and improvisation, Led Zeppelin created one of the best rock songs of all time, with or without plagiarims.
So, without all the respect, GO TO HELL ZEPPELIN HATER.
YOU WILL NEVER DETHRONE THE BEST ROCK BAND OF ALL TIME!!!!
@KLthebig Invented? I'm so sure that's the word to describe a riff. Besides, the riff only improvised the riff from the original Muddy Waters version.
@KLthebig If you were to listen to the riff from the original and stuff like "Hey Joe" and several blues riffs you'll the in-out riff a lot. The Whole Lotta Love riff is the most unique of these . . . with it's repeated step to riff, if you will . . . call it that. Of course, it is rare to come across an original riff . . . given it's definition anyhow.
@KLthebig Of course. I know that very well. My point is that the riff came from the same source that the rest of the song came from. Well, that and the fact that riffs in general are unoriginal . . . mostly.
Yes, even composers. You don't even know how right you are . . . or do you? Just check out Bach's Little Fugue and Beethoven's "9th" (version of Schiller's Ode to Joy).
@KLthebig Indeed. There seems to be an invisible line between influence and what is infinite. As for Whole Lotta Love, since Robert Plant added lyrics and Page added music, they also deserve credit for their version. As they do.
I´m not questioning the cases of Zeppelin´s plagiarise. They exist and sometimes they are depressing (like Dazed and Confused) But, still (and now pickuping the Dazed and Confused case) if you compare both songs you´ll notice that the original is not a "winner". Dazed and Confused is a masterpiece of psychedelic rock. Its heavy, its a orgasmic and dazed jam and it´s still extremely original as a illegal. The intro, the violent guitar solo and even the music powerful and heavy sound ...
... with this example I´m trying to say that you can´t questioning Zeppelin´s work. It´s true they had the wrong attitude in some songs, but you know what?: They are STILL the best rock band of all time. Just look to their songs library: the fast full of energy intro of The Song Remains The Same, the wonderful reggae version of D´yer M´aker, the orgy of pleasure, genious and blues of Since I´ve Been Loving You, the perfect and stunning Stairway to Heaven
@KLthebig im not saying their not a great band, i dont even think its wrong to use other peoples ideas thats just part of music, you just should give credit where credit is due and pay them for it, just like with every song that gets covered or sampled today, you put it on a record you gotta pay, its not about wether or not they improved on someone elses work, its that they refuse to give them credit for creating it
But ok, nobody´s is perfect, and I totaly agree that, IN THIS CASE, zeppelin did plagiarise the song. But do you realy think that a band can survive only with original song? Besides, this is a thing that I love in Zeppelin: the other people songs that they had played (with or without plagiarise (´cause zeppelin plagiarise very less songs that some (stupid) people say that they had plagiarise) were ALL transformed in AMAZING COVERS (continuing next comment)
@miyuris yes but even before this song mudy waters released a song written by wilie dixon called "you need love", both small faces and zepp were influenced by that one..
I don't get all the Zeppelin hatred. They ALL ripped off the old blues players and each other. I love Steve Marriott but he sounds like young Roger Daltrey who was copying old blues players. Can't we just enjoy the music.
nothing wrong with doing a cover, but you must give credit where credit is due. originally willie dixon's you need love and muddy water did a version. Led zeppelin recieved a plagiarism suite filed by dixon's state was settled out of court in 1987
Side note, Zep use to hang out at this club in Village, got thrown out coulpe times for being to drunk and as one bouncer stated Always Stealing the House bands riffs..
Steve was the Real deal, if he didnt tell everyone in Music Bus to shove it up their Arse.. he would of been Huge star Percy Plant sat stage side of all early Marriott gigs and THEN developed "HIS" sound
the songs of the 60's are the most covered by artists today like Dylan, Beatles, Beach Boys and so many more!! who would want to cover crappy soppy boppy music that is shoved into our faces nowadays!!... gimme 50's, 60's and maybe 70's music anytime!!
Marriott was under contract so he couldn't join Zep. Page was smart, and got someone who was young, could ape him, and be molded. Marriott would've walked all over Page.
Who seriously listens to Whole Lotta Love for the lyrics? The arrangement is completely different, so when people say the Zeppelin song sounds just like this one, it makes me wonder what drugs they're on.
@ZeldaGamingMan . . . and I would say that the wild and highly sexualized lyrics are quite lucid. So, incidentally I do hear it. I don't listen for it but I do notice it.
Also, the riff that opens this song is kinda blatant. Of course, the debate should be over who ripped off Willie Dixon more. These guys or Zeppelin.
The idea that Robert Plant is anything like as good as Steve Marriott as a vocalist is bizarre to say the least. I'm not a LZ fan but I met Plant at a Black Keys gig a few years ago. I initially mistook him for Noddy Holder but he was thoroughly nice to my friends who wanted a quick chat. Nice, down to earth guy.
great stuff it amazes me back in the day how all the musitions who were friends ;.plant an mariot and all;. built off each outher;. an how they built off the great foundation willie dixion and there generation started;.;;.;.there hasnt been much building going on these days;.;. still waiting for the next great thing;.;.;.lol
I love Steve Marriott's music but I still must admit for me regardless Robert Plant is better and not a ripoff. Especially for Plant's amazing live performances and ability to do improvs with his voice, and even match Page's guitar with his range. I have seen Marriott's live videos also, but Plants are more impressive to me.
@Klinkerklunk Righto, Plant was a huge fan. It has been said the Marriott was Page's 1st consideration as lead for Zeppelin. Although I am a huge Zeppelin fan it has been claimed that they were huge rip off artists. Here's proof to the puddin. Marriott the greatest underrated voice in the business. RIP Steve...30 Days in the Hole.
@dnteatylwsno I always felt like Plant's vocals in "Whole Lotta Love" were supposed to be a tribute to Marriott, especially considering how much Plant clearly idolized Steve. (and talked about it, and went to all of the Small Faces' shows, and...)
@bfish89ryuhayabusa This is true bfish. I think the statement of mine that Zep were rip-offs was a bit much. It has been pointed out that although they "borrowed" from many they always made it their own and I'd agree. Thanks for the reply
@RobPic914 You're right, Steve Marriot is under-rated. And appreciate the sentiment on Steve Winwood, but he's been called a genius (rightly) since he was 16, he is in the R&R hall of fame for Traffic, he had huge hits in the 80's, so he's hardly under-rated. But if you want to hear an under-rated brilliant soulful singer, try Bettye Lavette! Took her 45 years to get an audience. Just a suggestion, thanks.
I couldn't agree more with both your heartfelt sentiment and expressed opinion, Ms. juliejazz.
It is perfectly clear that you are in possession of an extraordinarily sharp mind, excellent taste in music, and very possibly a booty on temporary loan from the angels themselves.
In fairness, Steve did ok Led Zep over this. He had recently been asked to be their lead vocalist and declined the offer. Apparently he was fine with it because they were all mates. Led Zep were not mates enough to give him or Dixon any credit or royalties however!
in fairness, Steve was asked to be the lead vocalist for Led Zep and declined. When he heard this track, he laughed and said ok because these were his friends. I'm sure they weren't friendly enough to give him any royalties however, let alone Dixon.
I have never heard of these guys. For years, I thought Led Zeppelin had original songs and style. Now I am hear about lawsuits. Now,I am listening to this guys vocals. What a remarkable resemblance to no other than Robert Plant.
Muddy Waters ripped this song off of Willie Dixon. But at least Muddy gave credit to Dixon. Small Faces credit this to Marriott Lane and Zeppelin credit this song to Led Zeppelin but they didn't write it. Steve Marriott totally sang it with his own vocal style with a phrasing of his own very different from Muddy Waters, Zeppelin just ripped that phrasing off and it's a shame.
I love The Small Faces and Led Zeppelin. It's a shame that The Small Faces are so unknown and under-appreciated.
Commercial classic rock and oldies radio stations suck. They should start playing The Small Faces and other great 60s mod bands, instead of repeating the same tired hits over and over again.
Steve Marriott and Robert Plant both do a great job with a similar vocal style, The difference is - Plant did it in 1970 and Marriott recorded You Need Lovin' in 1966.
honestly i know everyone has a different taste as to which song is better and i dont mind it when a band does a good cover of a song. Just if your gonna follow the vocals as closely as Plant did, at least give the original writer some credit!!
@lordieuan777 Willie Dixon had to sue Led Zeppelin in th 80's to get credit on Whole Lotta Love. Probably on his attorney's advise, he didn't bother suing the Small Faces - can't get blood from a stone, even one as good as the Small Faces - and as far as I know this version has always only been credited to Marriot-Lane.
yeah dude when I first heard "womaaaaan, you neeed looooovin" I was like holy shit that sounds like whole lotta love!
low72 3 days ago
cover of Willie Dixon song not Muddy Waters
markleslie99 2 weeks ago
@markleslie99 Muddy Waters recorded the original though... Willie Dixon wrote his songs mostly for others...
joriszsz 4 days ago
Okay we all become influenced by others and we do take ideas and make them our own But, what is been well documented and said by so many musicians in the industry is that Jimmy Page is not only a good copy cat but a very good thief.. nothing wrong with that as Steve Jobs said Good artists copy great artists steal that's Jimmy Page and Led Zeppelin and many others.... there are only a few real artistes in the world and we do not have any at this time...
WowNano 1 month ago
@WowNano Hilarious--Steve Jobs stole that line from Picasso!!!
paulzeichner 2 weeks ago
Nothing to do with WLL, sorry...just a few lines of the lyrics i must admitt....it's not a rip off sorry to LZ haters.
TheNiko005 1 month ago
Used to play this to my Led Zep-loving friends. Talk about a shock to the system!
faeembrugh 1 month ago
@faeembrugh Not really as both songs are took from Willie Dixon's ''You need love''
Super1872Rangers 1 month ago
Another testiment to one of the most loved singers in Rock History. It's a shame more don't even know about him. Hopefully youtube will help them catch on.
mydogspet 1 month ago
you guys know that led zeppelin made a cover of this and muddy waters song and put them together and end up with whole lotta love. small faces didn't make a cover, led zeppelin did
saamuelssoon 1 month ago
Goddamn! That's all I have to say about "this cover" of Muddy's classic. No wonder Led Zeppelin has been criticized lmao
timmy841212 1 month ago
Wow ! What a song and what a singer.
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God i love Steve Marriot singing..
Phenomenon58 2 months ago 2
Regardless of the squabbles posted here. The fact is; If it wasn't for Steve Marriot, there would have been no Robert Plant. The proof is right in the audio. Not to say this is a bad thing at all, ... but maybe, .... just maybe, someday Plant will toss his little girlie shirt, man up to the plate, & put the credit where it's due? (yea right).
DonTerhune1200cc 2 months ago
A book called "When Giants Walked the Earth" by Mick Wall gives a good insight into the early Zep days and yeah they did indeed plagiarize, as did lots of other bands. This very song is a steal of Willie Dixon...... Ian MacLagan the keyboardist is quoted stating this fact. If it sounds good, its good....
GustheOutlaw 2 months ago
Let's call a spade a spade here. It's not a question of Led Zeppelin stealing from Small faces etc ...it's a question of the whole of the British invasion being a mass theft of art from the underclass. Then once the theft is complete they change the copyright laws in 1977
mlmr11 2 months ago
@mlmr11 Yeah right. Like songs like Mad John, ItchyCoo Park, Ogden Nut Gone Flake, Lazy Sunday etc are big blues numbers. Steve Marriot was born in Manor Park and weighed less than 5ib at birth so rich was his family. While your at it remind which member of your mythical 'underclass' wrote Waterloo Sunset or Shangri La for the Kinks apart from Ray Davies another genuine working class boy. These people had talent to burn and certainly dont need to be patronised by tossers like you.
aminorchacha 2 months ago
@aminorchacha I don't care what they think of me . Because it's probably the same thing they think of you. The sooner you realize that the better off you'll be
mlmr11 2 months ago
Who gives a toss about who got there first (Muddy waters, the Small Faces or Led Zep). This is an absolutely stunning cover of the Willie Dixon song. The whole band not just Marriot are absolutely playing out of their boots.
aminorchacha 2 months ago 2
I agree :0) Marriott has this one,,thx guys!!!!
WildManWillis1 2 months ago
When I hear Whole Lotta Love and You Need Love I dont hear a simliar song. Sure might be the same lyrics but its a totally different style and playing. Dont diss Led Zeppelin may have plagerized but they have a few classics of there own. Zeppelin
defined a generation but so did small faces just in different area. Btw what Sid1Cicious comment was very vague in his comment, They didnt change a rhythm. They changed the whole song. Please can we stop arguing and just listen to the music
dbkabridged99 3 months ago 2
When I hear Whole Lotta Love and You Need Love I dont hear a simliar song. Sure might be the same lyrics but its a totally different style and playing. Dont Led Zeppelin may have plagerized but they have a few classics of there own. Zeppelin
defined a generation but so did small faces just in different area. Btw what Sid1Cicious comment was very vague in his comment, They didnt change a rhythm. They changed the whole song. Please can we stop arguing and just listen to the music
dbkabridged99 3 months ago
I don't understand why everybody is hating on Led Zeppelin and them "stealing songs" they are covers. Over half of Cream's catalog is covers. If it wasn't for Zeppelin, i wouldn't even be listening to this song, or it's sad, even the Muddy Waters original
marshallkid11 3 months ago
@marshallkid11 The difference being Cream gave the original writers credit, whereas Page and Plant rarely did.
waverunner713 3 months ago 7
Whaha, to all peops complainin about LZ stole this song:
This was stolen by small face from muddy waters and LZ gave it a new diversion with the riff:D
T0one94 3 months ago
Another famous Jimmy Page rip-off!
Jimmy Plaige they should say-as in plagiarist!
vanjimbo 3 months ago
And it's not like they couldn't write any great songs on their own (for that there are plenty of examples). But maybe Page and/or Plant was/were too haughty to even care about people knowing he/they was/were plagiarizing. Maybe they were afraid they couldn't reach the level of success they wanted without doing that because of lack of confidence on their songwriting skills, who knows? Still, they are excellent performers and, as a band, one of the best live acts ever.
Sid1Vicious84 3 months ago
Led Zep, I used to dig their music a lot but now they're just a joke for me because of all the songs they blatantly plagiarized and didn't give any credit for the actual composers at all on their own will. And I know many people may say "They did it their own way". But, really, it's just like they were jammin' along to the songs they copied, maybe changing a rhythm here, adding some lyrics or verses there, playing a lengthy, self-indulgent solo over there, changing the song title maybe...
Sid1Vicious84 3 months ago 2
@Sid1Vicious84 what about these guys??? zeppelin might have ripped off this song, but small faces ripped off muddy waters!!!
Darkblossomxx 1 month ago
Zeppelin's version is just way cooler - they just stole other people's music and gave it something awesome that it was missing. They were shameless thieves but their power crushes.
GoDrex 3 months ago
@GoDrex i think this version's just as cool
TimBirkenholz 3 months ago
@TimBirkenholz It's too traditional or standard compared to the Zep version. LZ took the blues and updated it, as opposed to emulating it.
GoDrex 3 months ago
I think plant sounds more like Janis Joplin tbh
BleachTW 4 months ago
Still I have not seen one song yet, that Marriott sings better than Plant. Yes Plant hung out with the Small Faces,,yes,they wanted their drummer at one time,but Robert Plant went above and beyond Steve Marriott,,in the type of songs Robert sang. Yes Marriott had a bigger voice range, but Plant knew he was better,,and he is!
WildManWillis1 4 months ago
@WildManWillis1 Overrall Plant Is the better singer.
But for raunchy stuff like this marriot wins although plant Is in the top ten
BleachTW 4 months ago
@BleachTW Even Plant himself recognised that Steve Marriott was the better vocalist:
"I could never be compared with Steve Marriot because he's too good, unfortunately! He's got the best white voice, for sheer bravado and balls."
Mark1712L 3 months ago 2
Just remember. Steve Marriott also stole this. This is Willie" Dixons! They took from these blues artists that weren't that well off, and ran with their genius.
So while Robert Plant stole here not only from Mr Dixon, but he stole from Marriots style of singing, however, they both took from Mr Dixon.
babystinky 5 months ago
@babystinky I don't know I think he sounds alot like janis joplin on that.
TBH I could care less None of these have That spitfire solo or the riff
BleachTW 4 months ago
@BleachTW
Plant sounds like Janis Joplin, after '69 after the Second Album. It wasn't until the 3rd album, where he started changing that singing style. Prior, and if you listen to the style Steve Marriott used on "You Need Loving", Plant not only lifted the style, but also the words!
babystinky 4 months ago
@babystinky True.
But we must remember that marriot copied both music and words
BleachTW 4 months ago
@BleachTW
Agreed.
babystinky 4 months ago
@QuarrellaDeVil.Show me an original copy of "Physical Graffiti" where Mrs. Valens is credited as co-writer of "Boogie With Stu" and I'll believe you.
wellsy1954 5 months ago
robert plant wishes he was steve marriott. STEVE MARRIOTT IS GOD
smigme29 5 months ago 2
We now know where Zeppelin got its inspiration eh ! :L
MrARRriMAPIrate 5 months ago
Steve is good,,,but he is nooooo Robert :0) Robert deserves it1!!!
WildManWillis1 5 months ago
Steve is good,,,but he is nooooo Robert :0)
WildManWillis1 5 months ago
@WildManWillis1 That's right he was better, Plant knew it himself, he said , he would never follow Marriott on to any stage.
I like Plant and Zep but as a singer/performer , no doubts, it's Marriott .
johnmc128 5 months ago
It wasn't just black guys that Led Zep ripped off.Physical Graffiti's "Boogie with Stu" was just theft of Ritchie Valen's "Ooh My Head".I notice with the re-mastered C.D. "Mrs.Valens" gets a credit-just another Led Zep court case I guess.
wellsy1954 6 months ago
@wellsy1954 they gave credit for that
daviejtube95 5 months ago
@wellsy1954 The credit to Mrs. Valens was there from the beginning: It was LZ's attempt to give her some credit, given that she didn't get any royalties after her son was killed. Unfortunately, the move backfired, and they finished up getting sued.
QuarrellaDeVil 5 months ago
hubby and I have had so many discussions over this,,,,I knew it was Small Faces as I bought the LP in 1967 but he was convinced it was a Zeppelin original....thanks for putting the record straight xxxx
Mustblyn23 6 months ago
Led Zep never paid any royalties to the blues men they stole from. Everyone else did
Fendermanpaul 6 months ago
In music everyone "borrows" from one another, its a fact. The old blues and folk artists "borrowed" alot from each other and made a profit on it so putting down zepp without mentioning the fact that the small faces did the same thing and got away with it is ridiculous. Zepp went to court over their "borrowing" and they got in trouble for the lyrics and not the music, because the music was new and lyrics were not. Plant did this out of respect for his idols just clapton did with his solos.
Magicquickfingers 7 months ago
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This is a disgrace.
Dixon sued in 1985 and settled out of court.
Marriott's estate would have a battle since he clearly lifted it from Muddy Waters.
Luke 8:17 "All things shall be brought to light, in the fullness of time."
Zep had a genius for good and evil.
Musicologically brilliant PabloWeston88. Luv your work!
Px
TraleeFair 7 months ago
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TraleeFair 7 months ago
What people need to take into account is that when the Small Faces and Led Zeppelin lifted "You Need Love" for their respective 'interpretations', the rules of copyright were not well understood, or at least not as well enforced. This was back when bands were largely free to use the work of others as a basis for their own works, unlike today where people sue each other left and right. Anyway, trying to spread animosity benefits no one. Peace.
brianpage100 7 months ago 6
RETARDS the small faces didnt credit willie dixon either
kildare97 7 months ago
@kildare97 please explain what the willie dixon rip off is please
SuperSterns 7 months ago
@SuperSterns The lyrics you retard.
Can you not check for yourself?
kildare97 7 months ago
@SuperSterns and small faaces ripped the music from muddy waters recordinh
kildare97 7 months ago
Plant n page should be ashamed of themselves ..
GTWHITEFEVER 7 months ago
It's NOT the fact that Zeppelin recorded this song, or if they did it better than others (debatable, but not important) like the Small Faces. It is the fact that TOOK CREDIT FOR WRITING IT WHEN THEY DIDN'T on their album that bothers folks. Many a song writer did not get their just dues cause Zeppelin did this, to a lot of the songs they recorded and put out on their albums.
compudad9 8 months ago
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@compudad9 Eh the small faces didnt credit willie dixon either you dumbass
kildare97 7 months ago
Plant was a huge fan of Marriott.I even read somewhere he asked him to do this song.Don't know if it's true. Anyway...as a musician I must say this campaign against them is unfair. They took ideas from songs almost forgotten at the time. They never copied them but completely rewrote them into something different. Every musician does it! Willingly or not. Our music is music of our ancestors plus that little sparkle of ourselves. When the sparkle changes into a fire, magic happens.Like Zepp or SF.
zeppelinn 8 months ago
@zeppelinn well your facts are skewed Marriott was the benchmark Page wanted and Plant had qualities like him. When Steve heard the song he was like more power to the young brother. He felt like that probably because he knew the sound was a rip off of his. He had the class to not put Plant down publicly.
When the tables were turned Plant takes every opportunity it seems to bad mouth David Coverdale. How can he call him David Coverversion when David has a much more superior voice?
voltronsbabi 8 months ago
@voltronsbabi Man,there's no one with superior voice to one other.I mean,there is but only in our minds.I personally like Plant a lot better than D.C.It's just..when I listen to something C. did it doesn't move me.I don't feel anything.And that's it.Maybe you do but I don't.And that is what matters.I also think when Plant was on his prime(1970-71)no one could stand against him.Unfortunately his voice wore off short after that. But that isn't important,it's just what you feel about each other.
zeppelinn 8 months ago
i dont believe its the song in question here its the style that plant who ripped it straight off and thats the crime , faces made nothing got robbed blind by sharon osbournes dad there is a movie all about them working class lads who got robbed same old story while the middle class public schoolboys always do well imagine the beatles without Epstein under the influence of some cockney spiv who's john lennon you would be asking
motsigman 8 months ago
Look I'm no Zep Hater but Stevie did this first .. Anyway there is no denying Zep put their own unmistakeable stamp on what is one of rocks classics . I have heard an interview with Robert Plant where he said when he started out he wanted to be like Steve Marriott - so even he has acknowledged one of his greatest influences ..
Most , if not all the classic british based blues/Rock artists drew heavily and in some cases directly pinched from the Blues and soul masters - not just el zeppo !!
blasty109 8 months ago 2
Besides Muddy Waters, this song stole from the song "Land of 1,000 Dances".
know how to pony
like bony maronie...
mash potato...
shicrapt 9 months ago
hmmm
hickey1366 9 months ago
Why all the bitching just listen to the music and appreciate what you like and turn off what you don't.
eturfrey 9 months ago
Musical influence is one thing, this is steeling
renatomendoncaYT 9 months ago
Um, this is not the original version of this song. That would be the Muddy Waters version, on which the author Willie Dixon plays bass.
However, Plant, who greatly admired Steve Marriott, is clearly doing a Marriott impression on "Whole Lotta Love." That being said, Marriott's vocal is great, but Plant's is other-wordly.
badpdx 9 months ago
all you here saying Led Zeppelin stole this from The Small Faces, go check out Muddy Waters version and post about it on the original instead
hugarh1 9 months ago
@hugarh1
No, we know that SF stole this song from Muddy Waters. But the truth is that Robert Plant stole his vocal delivery straight from Marriott/SF interpretation - not from Muddy's. If you think otherwise it means you're deaf.
xJayWalkerx 9 months ago
@xJayWalkerx I'm not death, I was just pointing out that people are saying that Led Zep stole this SONG (not vocal style) from the Small Faces, despite the original being a Muddy Waters song. I never once mentioned the vocals in my first post. If you think otherwise it means you're illiterate
hugarh1 9 months ago
Maximum R&B!
Actually I stole that from a Who poster. Is it okay if I do that?
OctoDunn 9 months ago
i mean zep, not the faces
tommieparch 9 months ago
zep hit at the right time! the 1960 boomer in u.s. ,for the recrd 1960 had the most babes born on record. good thing my fave band is sabbath, that way proves i never supported these satanist ripoff fags
tommieparch 9 months ago
I'm not gonna say that Plant is a rip off, like some here, but he should have acknowledged the creativity that preceded his singing. If this was a novel there would be a clear plagiarism issue... lots of rip offs exist in music... it's a highly influential medium and my right to sing a tune is the same as anyone's, but, this was clearly taken to a limit not often seen...
fkessler53 10 months ago
I prefer Page and Bonham who were the "monsters" in Zepplin...give credit to those due it. They did a great cover and arrangement of a song appreciated long before the late sixties and sure Plant had ...and I mean had a great voice but Dixon, Waters and the Faces were doing "You Need Love"/Whole Lotta Love" before them and doing it good.
hthurmanjr 10 months ago
the original...and the best !!!
drstevie 10 months ago
Led Zeppelin payed for the lyrics and melody.
gagega1 10 months ago
Just for the record I can name 19 songs that Zep (arguably) "borrowed" (or just took). Jake Holmes has begged them to put his name as a credit on "Dazed and Confused" and they refuse to do it. Look into some of this before you just run to Zep's defense. I play in a Zeppelin tribute band so believe me, I am a big fan of theirs but right is right.
MrQuinceymagoo 10 months ago 31
@MrQuinceymagoo Before you go defaming Zeppelin, take a look at the artists they "stole" from...and you'll realize they all stole from each other. Blues, folk and jazz music are based around "borrowing."
Also: It's funny, but...The Small Faces were never sued and never gave proper credit to Willie Dixon.
crazymanwhois 7 months ago
@crazymanwhois I understand what you are saying and it is a very valid point. I didn't use the word "stole" (you did) however and I didn't think that I was "defaming" Led Zeppelin. The one thing that I will say in response to your comment is that those other blues artists who all stole from each other (according you) didn't make much money doing it.
MrQuinceymagoo 7 months ago
@crazymanwhois Zep COPYWROTE songs in their own name that they knowingly didn't write and made a great deal of money doing it. In fairness Jimmy changed a lot of the riffs but Robert just took the lyrics verbatim many times.
MrQuinceymagoo 7 months ago
@MrQuinceymagoo NO LED ZEPPELIN IS COMPLETLY ORIGINAL JAKE HOLMES DID NOT WRITE THAT...... AND THE BEACH BOYS DID NOT RIP OFF CHUCK BERRY WITH SWEET LITTLE SIXTEEN/SURFIN USA
QueenetBowie 3 months ago
@QueenetBowie But then again, in the writing credits for Surfin' USA, they did mention Chuck Berry as a writer. So there really was no plagiarizing per se in Sweet Little Sixteen/Surfin' USA
bpabustan 3 months ago
@bpabustan Originally Brian claimed he didn't "borrow" the melody from sweet little sixteen. If I reember correctly Chuck Berry ended up suing so that he would have his name put on the credits for Surfin USA
QueenetBowie 3 months ago
Ronnie lane
Alithecomedian 10 months ago
stevie was the original, no doubt, but Plant and co, had, have the class and talent to channel steve and other greats, and become greats themselves
lotsooo 11 months ago
Wow Plant,obviously doesn't have an original bone in his body after hearing this! Zep was just a cover band it seems, but lied about writing credits.
socrates1818 11 months ago
@socrates1818 im tired of these faggots saying nothing was original and they suck after hearing one song thats even remotely close to another, whatever happened to the question of which sounds better? or the countless tunes led zeppelin DID come up with that you seem to be clueless to their existance? what about the fact that jimmy page improvised better than anyone?
redbull324 10 months ago
Steve Mariott = really good.
Robert Plant = genius.
That's the difference. I will say that on the first Led Zep album Janis Joplin could have sung Babe I'm Gonna Leave You as well or better, however.
truthtopower 11 months ago
@truthtopower You have it backwards. Steve was a far superior showman and Plant himself acknowledges Steve was a much better singer. There are many reasons why Plant is far better known today than Steve Marriott, but their relative talent level ain't one of them.
gropingwithastoker 10 months ago
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Let's face it.Jimmy Page is nothing but a fuckin' magpie, ..a right thieving
twat with not a single original idea of his own..he stole from everybody,
old blues artists,pop groups,folk artists, jazzers, et al...and he never
credited any one of them on the Zep albums...and to put the tin hat on it,
he's tighter than two coats of paint !!!...Ditto Robert Plant..
leperskin 11 months ago
@leperskin
that´s your point of view, but do not dis the rest of Zeppelins work!
What about 60 other great and fantastic Zeppelin songs? Do you forget about them? Every single musician that worked during the 70ies, 80ies and later on at least copied one of his idols, even their songs! It´s their influence where their style came from.
I hope your comment was meant ironically, otherwise I cant get up to your words.
ZiSt1989 11 months ago
@leperskin lets face it, you're a faggot talking shit about something you dont know
redbull324 10 months ago
Fuck Robert Plant, you hear me?
Khultan 11 months ago
great power. i love steve marriott. more powerful than Plant. but, for the high notes, Plant FTW.
zzy66613 11 months ago
i had the good fortune to see them both . Zep in Dallas 1977 and Marriott in Ft Worth in 1982. i like them both.but Marriott gave me goosebumps . my fav is Afterglow of your love. Ronnie Lane, saw him too. Greatness all of them.
usscott 1 year ago
The Who, Led Zeppelin, Rodless and the Black Crowes all ripped off the (S)Faces's style.
angelangel3000 1 year ago
@angelangel3000 Sorry but I totally disagree. Led Zepplin's sound & style were totally different from the Small Faces, The Black Crowes have other role models to follow (S.F.'s two U.S. number ones were towards the end of their lifespan), and as for the Who... You MUST be kidding, the Who formed over a year earlier & their first two singles had been UK hits before the Small Faces recorded their first track. If there's an influence there, it's the Who on the Faces, not the other way around.
ThetaOmegaSigma 2 months ago 2
well the question here is who plagiarises better? :p
Zepp did...
What strikes me here though is just HOW good this singer is... I hadn't heard of him before...
413Kristianna 1 year ago
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KLthebig 1 year ago
In this case, Plant pickup in the original lyrics, Page invented an AMAZING riff, and with the powerful drums of Bonham, the amazing bass of Jones and a bit of DELICIOUS solos and improvisation, Led Zeppelin created one of the best rock songs of all time, with or without plagiarims.
So, without all the respect, GO TO HELL ZEPPELIN HATER.
YOU WILL NEVER DETHRONE THE BEST ROCK BAND OF ALL TIME!!!!
KLthebig 1 year ago
@KLthebig Invented? I'm so sure that's the word to describe a riff. Besides, the riff only improvised the riff from the original Muddy Waters version.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
What do you mean?
The Page´s riff for Whole Lotta Love is original!
KLthebig 1 year ago
@KLthebig If you were to listen to the riff from the original and stuff like "Hey Joe" and several blues riffs you'll the in-out riff a lot. The Whole Lotta Love riff is the most unique of these . . . with it's repeated step to riff, if you will . . . call it that. Of course, it is rare to come across an original riff . . . given it's definition anyhow.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
But MUSICAL INFLUENCE IS EVERYWHERE!
Even the classical music composers were constantly by the previously composers and so on.
Without the concept of influence in music, the music itself would never exist
KLthebig 1 year ago 15
@KLthebig Of course. I know that very well. My point is that the riff came from the same source that the rest of the song came from. Well, that and the fact that riffs in general are unoriginal . . . mostly.
Yes, even composers. You don't even know how right you are . . . or do you? Just check out Bach's Little Fugue and Beethoven's "9th" (version of Schiller's Ode to Joy).
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
You seem to be an inteligetn guy.
As so, you know thies fact very well: music is about influence.
Without music influence, music would never envolve.
And, of course, this influence can be ethically correct...or incorrect
KLthebig 1 year ago
@KLthebig Indeed. There seems to be an invisible line between influence and what is infinite. As for Whole Lotta Love, since Robert Plant added lyrics and Page added music, they also deserve credit for their version. As they do.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
@KLthebig being influenced is one thing, covering whole sections of songs from countless musicians and not giving them credit is another
iammacbethsfatalflaw 4 months ago
I´m not questioning the cases of Zeppelin´s plagiarise. They exist and sometimes they are depressing (like Dazed and Confused) But, still (and now pickuping the Dazed and Confused case) if you compare both songs you´ll notice that the original is not a "winner". Dazed and Confused is a masterpiece of psychedelic rock. Its heavy, its a orgasmic and dazed jam and it´s still extremely original as a illegal. The intro, the violent guitar solo and even the music powerful and heavy sound ...
KLthebig 4 months ago
... with this example I´m trying to say that you can´t questioning Zeppelin´s work. It´s true they had the wrong attitude in some songs, but you know what?: They are STILL the best rock band of all time. Just look to their songs library: the fast full of energy intro of The Song Remains The Same, the wonderful reggae version of D´yer M´aker, the orgy of pleasure, genious and blues of Since I´ve Been Loving You, the perfect and stunning Stairway to Heaven
KLthebig 4 months ago
@KLthebig im not saying their not a great band, i dont even think its wrong to use other peoples ideas thats just part of music, you just should give credit where credit is due and pay them for it, just like with every song that gets covered or sampled today, you put it on a record you gotta pay, its not about wether or not they improved on someone elses work, its that they refuse to give them credit for creating it
iammacbethsfatalflaw 4 months ago
in some point, the plagiarism cases were good.
If they didn´t exist, Led Zeppelin would be a perfect band
; D
KLthebig 4 months ago
But ok, nobody´s is perfect, and I totaly agree that, IN THIS CASE, zeppelin did plagiarise the song. But do you realy think that a band can survive only with original song? Besides, this is a thing that I love in Zeppelin: the other people songs that they had played (with or without plagiarise (´cause zeppelin plagiarise very less songs that some (stupid) people say that they had plagiarise) were ALL transformed in AMAZING COVERS (continuing next comment)
KLthebig 1 year ago
In this case, small faces plagiarise Willie Dixon
IT´S SAD THE FACT THAT NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THAT. If zeppelin plagiarise Willie Dixon (as you say) this is also a plagiarism...sad people
KLthebig 1 year ago 4
Marriott did it FIRST, yes BPkeller, NOT better, that's one mans opinion. Period.
cjo2112 1 year ago
The difference between Led Zep and the Small Faces is Stevie Marriot has got Soul.
misterdsen 1 year ago
was this song made before led zeppelin's whole lotta love?
miyuris 1 year ago
@miyuris yes but even before this song mudy waters released a song written by wilie dixon called "you need love", both small faces and zepp were influenced by that one..
413Kristianna 11 months ago
I don't get all the Zeppelin hatred. They ALL ripped off the old blues players and each other. I love Steve Marriott but he sounds like young Roger Daltrey who was copying old blues players. Can't we just enjoy the music.
TheEWFX29 1 year ago
nothing wrong with doing a cover, but you must give credit where credit is due. originally willie dixon's you need love and muddy water did a version. Led zeppelin recieved a plagiarism suite filed by dixon's state was settled out of court in 1987
taeve1 1 year ago
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asjcusm51 1 year ago
lists mean F... all we know who did it first and best.
asjcusm51 1 year ago
This sounds nothing like Whole Lotta Love.
geldofpunk32 1 year ago
Side note, Zep use to hang out at this club in Village, got thrown out coulpe times for being to drunk and as one bouncer stated Always Stealing the House bands riffs..
cdog5150 1 year ago
Steve was the Real deal, if he didnt tell everyone in Music Bus to shove it up their Arse.. he would of been Huge star Percy Plant sat stage side of all early Marriott gigs and THEN developed "HIS" sound
cdog5150 1 year ago
the songs of the 60's are the most covered by artists today like Dylan, Beatles, Beach Boys and so many more!! who would want to cover crappy soppy boppy music that is shoved into our faces nowadays!!... gimme 50's, 60's and maybe 70's music anytime!!
Terrilliser 1 year ago
Marriott was under contract so he couldn't join Zep. Page was smart, and got someone who was young, could ape him, and be molded. Marriott would've walked all over Page.
blorto1 1 year ago
Who seriously listens to Whole Lotta Love for the lyrics? The arrangement is completely different, so when people say the Zeppelin song sounds just like this one, it makes me wonder what drugs they're on.
ZeldaGamingMan 1 year ago
@ZeldaGamingMan People often mistake insparation with copying
elbragocool 1 year ago
@ZeldaGamingMan The vocals do. And so does the bass line.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
@ZeldaGamingMan . . . and I would say that the wild and highly sexualized lyrics are quite lucid. So, incidentally I do hear it. I don't listen for it but I do notice it.
Also, the riff that opens this song is kinda blatant. Of course, the debate should be over who ripped off Willie Dixon more. These guys or Zeppelin.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
The idea that Robert Plant is anything like as good as Steve Marriott as a vocalist is bizarre to say the least. I'm not a LZ fan but I met Plant at a Black Keys gig a few years ago. I initially mistook him for Noddy Holder but he was thoroughly nice to my friends who wanted a quick chat. Nice, down to earth guy.
Badsastard 1 year ago
I love Zep but just imagine if Mariott had joined zep instead of Plant. A killer guitar player and singer with a better range.
herrerameade 1 year ago
The lyrics are the thing that Whole Lotta Love rips off, the riff, bass-line, and drums are all totally original.
Phlemberg 1 year ago
@Phlemberg The bass ain't that far off but you're right it's a mostly different arrangement.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
great stuff it amazes me back in the day how all the musitions who were friends ;.plant an mariot and all;. built off each outher;. an how they built off the great foundation willie dixion and there generation started;.;;.;.there hasnt been much building going on these days;.;. still waiting for the next great thing;.;.;.lol
roamershaker 1 year ago
I love Steve Marriott's music but I still must admit for me regardless Robert Plant is better and not a ripoff. Especially for Plant's amazing live performances and ability to do improvs with his voice, and even match Page's guitar with his range. I have seen Marriott's live videos also, but Plants are more impressive to me.
DavidKinner 1 year ago
steve just kick ass.
mycatsdead 1 year ago
They all rip one another off, remember there is "nothing new under the sun", hmm
rainspirit100 1 year ago
Hey this sounds just like led Zeppelin Whole Lotta Love!!!!!!!!!!!
Klinkerklunk 1 year ago
@Klinkerklunk Righto, Plant was a huge fan. It has been said the Marriott was Page's 1st consideration as lead for Zeppelin. Although I am a huge Zeppelin fan it has been claimed that they were huge rip off artists. Here's proof to the puddin. Marriott the greatest underrated voice in the business. RIP Steve...30 Days in the Hole.
dnteatylwsno 1 year ago
@dnteatylwsno I always felt like Plant's vocals in "Whole Lotta Love" were supposed to be a tribute to Marriott, especially considering how much Plant clearly idolized Steve. (and talked about it, and went to all of the Small Faces' shows, and...)
bfish89ryuhayabusa 1 year ago
@bfish89ryuhayabusa This is true bfish. I think the statement of mine that Zep were rip-offs was a bit much. It has been pointed out that although they "borrowed" from many they always made it their own and I'd agree. Thanks for the reply
dnteatylwsno 1 year ago
@Klinkerklunk no - Led Zep sounds like this......
RobPoyton 1 year ago
Why is it that all the brilliant, soulful singers/musicians like Steve Marriott or Steve Winwood are so underrated?
RobPic914 1 year ago
@RobPic914 You're right, Steve Marriot is under-rated. And appreciate the sentiment on Steve Winwood, but he's been called a genius (rightly) since he was 16, he is in the R&R hall of fame for Traffic, he had huge hits in the 80's, so he's hardly under-rated. But if you want to hear an under-rated brilliant soulful singer, try Bettye Lavette! Took her 45 years to get an audience. Just a suggestion, thanks.
marinman39 1 year ago
MOJO put out a "Roots of Led Zeppelin" CD a few years ago. Bert Jansch, Willie Dixon, etc...can you say RIP-OFF?
rocktenniscat 1 year ago
I couldn't agree more with both your heartfelt sentiment and expressed opinion, Ms. juliejazz.
It is perfectly clear that you are in possession of an extraordinarily sharp mind, excellent taste in music, and very possibly a booty on temporary loan from the angels themselves.
FAX
FAX335 1 year ago
Holy shit. Steve was asbsolutely incredible.
Underground906 1 year ago
In fairness, Steve did ok Led Zep over this. He had recently been asked to be their lead vocalist and declined the offer. Apparently he was fine with it because they were all mates. Led Zep were not mates enough to give him or Dixon any credit or royalties however!
dudlecat 1 year ago
in fairness, Steve was asked to be the lead vocalist for Led Zep and declined. When he heard this track, he laughed and said ok because these were his friends. I'm sure they weren't friendly enough to give him any royalties however, let alone Dixon.
dudlecat 1 year ago
I have never heard of these guys. For years, I thought Led Zeppelin had original songs and style. Now I am hear about lawsuits. Now,I am listening to this guys vocals. What a remarkable resemblance to no other than Robert Plant.
superjtrdr 1 year ago
The lyrics sound less like You Need Love than Whole Lotta Love. So Rob must have wanted to be (lyrically) closer to the original than Steve.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
Muddy Waters did not 'rip this off' ' Willie Dixon. Dixon wrote this and many other classics specifically for Muddy.
volt4stax 1 year ago
Muddy Waters ripped this song off of Willie Dixon. But at least Muddy gave credit to Dixon. Small Faces credit this to Marriott Lane and Zeppelin credit this song to Led Zeppelin but they didn't write it. Steve Marriott totally sang it with his own vocal style with a phrasing of his own very different from Muddy Waters, Zeppelin just ripped that phrasing off and it's a shame.
hyzercreek 1 year ago
They sound alot like The Who to me in this song.
Tabla461 1 year ago
Mais uma que o Led pescou haha
pedrovideoss 1 year ago
Bottom line: Led Zeppelin took Willie Dixon's song, and had to be sued before they would credit him.
Gee, guys, did you not have enough MONEY or something?
No excuse for it. Willie Dixon never made NEAR the cash that Page and Plant did, and ripping off his song and not paying him is indefensible.
cfortunato58 1 year ago 2
I love The Small Faces and Led Zeppelin. It's a shame that The Small Faces are so unknown and under-appreciated.
Commercial classic rock and oldies radio stations suck. They should start playing The Small Faces and other great 60s mod bands, instead of repeating the same tired hits over and over again.
demoskunk 1 year ago 9
Steve Marriott and Robert Plant both do a great job with a similar vocal style, The difference is - Plant did it in 1970 and Marriott recorded You Need Lovin' in 1966.
TubeNumber1 1 year ago
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elvissavik 1 year ago
honestly i know everyone has a different taste as to which song is better and i dont mind it when a band does a good cover of a song. Just if your gonna follow the vocals as closely as Plant did, at least give the original writer some credit!!
metalmaker300 1 year ago 5
@metalmaker300 The song was written by Willie Dixon, and is credited to him on the album
lordieuan777 1 year ago
@lordieuan777 Willie Dixon had to sue Led Zeppelin in th 80's to get credit on Whole Lotta Love. Probably on his attorney's advise, he didn't bother suing the Small Faces - can't get blood from a stone, even one as good as the Small Faces - and as far as I know this version has always only been credited to Marriot-Lane.
nancyzeetoo 1 year ago
@lordieuan777 That's good of them.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
Steve Marriot is awesome! He was an early 70s rocker years before there was such a thing!