EVERY WRESTLER IN THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT THAT DOUBLE LEG 2 SECONDS IN!!!!! LOL!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!! ALL WRONG! HEAD IS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE BODY, DIDN'T DRIVE, AND DIDN'T EVEN SHOOT PROPERLY BECAUSE LAST TIME I CHECKED YOU HIT A DOUBLE ON YOUR KNEES, LOL.
I find the lack of respect given to the take down after what one sees in the UFC demonstrative of the lack of observation skills necessary to function. The "attacker" did not shoot. He didn't know how. If we are relying on facing an impaired fighter to win the conflict, this is wrong. There are more high school wrestlers in the USA than wing chun (tsun) participants. Next time get a collegiate wrestler to demonstrate a proper take down. Then show me how you would stop it
Don't do this in a real fight, you will die. Going against a very strong pissed off and talented person will just pick him up and slam him. At least thats what I would do. This coming from a bujinkan yondan... so I know what I'm talking about. Get someone who is under the influence as the attacker and he will ignore the pain. Your little fast girly punches effectively cause a LITTLE pain, confusion and fear but any skilled fighter will beat it.
You can tell it's going to be bullshit when someone posts a video entitled 'takedown vs wingchun' . It doesn't even really make sense. All the best takedown defences I've seen come from wrestling. learn to sprawl shiny pants man. It's a very low percentage move, trying to catch someone with a punch or knee on the way in. I bet you have never even tried this out. I bet you have never even punched someone for real.
Never attack a man with those shiny orange pants!! Ever!
If you want to take him down though - throw a few punches first to bring his hands up and then level-change and take-down. (First learn to wrestle properly, that shit was lame!)
must admit though, those shiney pants would be way to dangerous for MMA and probably get banned in the cage!
I didn't think it was a bad video. Quick hands, showed some effective techniques to take down an opponent. Seems like everyone is an MMA star these days or just because they watched a few UFC PPV's then they know all the moves. It's a different beast when you fight a guy who doesn't just throw right haymakers the whole time.
And what happens when u do get taken down what u gona do then? Lay on your back and get fuked up or choked extra.. this is just to funny, look at those punches!
Lmao. Lets see this guy spar any collegiate wrestler. Looool so funny traditional martial arts are useless. Train mma if you want to no how to fight/protect yourself. Kickboxing/ muai Thai mixed with bjj/wrestling would beat this anytime. This guy should be ashamed, I feel bad for people who pay for this crap
he knows the take down is coming!!! get hit in the face and have the opponent change levels get a double and pick your win chun ass up in the air and set you on your neck
@MrSakan34 Wing Chun can fuck MMA up? Well I never have seen one succesful Wing Chun fighter in MMA. But I've seen succesful Karate, BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, and Wrestling fighters in MMA. So WIng Chun can't use the excuse that it;s too deadly, because all those martial arts I mentioned also have dirty techniques. And even in the street, imagine how dangerous MMA fighters would be if they had no gloves and decided to go for your eyes, throat, balls, spine, ect.... You fail sir.
@myloveforMMA The problem with comparing any Martial Art in current context is that most of them have turned into sport counterparts of the original intention. Wing Chun, or even the Chinese Kung Fu practiced by the Monks was a way of life, which is how it was typically practiced by the true Masters of Old would find few problems dealing with the unrefined tangling and generally sloppy movements of a modern sports martial artist.
@squall5574 Things like weight training and aerobic work outs weren't even considered because you would spend half of your day fighting in almost full contact with your other classmates. These martial arts were refined, precise, and incredibly deadly when practiced the way they were designed to be practiced.
@squall5574 Perhaps, but unless a Shaolin monk decides to fight hand to hand with a top 10 MMA fighter (who specializes in striking a bit more to keep it entertaining) with no rules allowed. Which I think neither man would do... we will never know. But when you compare your average serious Kung Fu practicioner to your average serious MMA practicioner... well we already know who is more of a force to be reckoned with hand to hand. The media has mystified martial arts so much.
@myloveforMMA First of all, Wing Chun is a martial art that was developed thousands of years ago. Back then, if was extremely effective in its pure way (which does include eye, groin, spine, etc. strikes). All the other fighting styles you mentioned originated AFTER Wing Chun. They are based on modern brutal street confrontations. If you study evolved Wing Chun, it is just as deadly. Wing Chun focuses on sensitivity and agility, and a good WC fighter will put up a very good fight!
@READComment1 So man? The rifle evolved from Cavemen throwing stones, doesn't mean the stone is better. AND BY THE WAY, Wing Chun came from Shaolin Kung Fu, and Shaolin Kung Fu came from the Martial Arts the Indians Buddhist monks taught the Chinese, and those Indians got the Martial Arts from Alexander the Great when he brought Pankration to India, seriously man, do research, first Martial Art ever that spread to the world was Pankration, look at some Pankration videos.
@myloveforMMA westernbiased propaganda not all chinese martial arts are base of shaolin and beside the fact that china bury most of their combat hisory around 2696bce and before... they found some recorded and sculpture of china praticin art before that..two of which (Sun Bin Quan and shuai jiao) is the oldest today even older then kalaripayattu and pankration (not modern pankration which incoporated asian technique like tang soo do)
@myloveforMMA as for the theory alexander the great brought pankration to inda..that is merely a theory but kalariapayattu came to existence before any geek control india..i suggest you redo your research with outmisleading infomation from multi source(proffessional site,forum,book,people etc..)
@asian714cali I know, I've gotten this information from books, from online, people, and I also happened to see it in the History Channel. Well either way, even if Martial Arts didn't come from Pankration, I'd still rather train in an art that is documented the Spartans and Greeks would use to kill the enemy once their spears and swords broke or were lost, and funny thing is, Pankration looks SO MUCH LIKE MMA. And they would only do groin, eye, strikes in the battlefield.
@myloveforMMA i too have gottenmy infomation from history channel ,online ,website and other forum... but the theory alexander brounght pankratino to india and made kalairpayattu is just an unproven theory..plus the majority of history channel will tell you pankration is one of the oldest..not the oldest....i also see history channel clamiming kalaripayattu(older then pankration obviously) to be the oldest martial arts when their are other older then it such as shuai jiao
@myloveforMMA and obviously pankration is the first recorded form of mma..still didnt influence kalaripayattu and pankartaion definitely did not lead to the creation of indian martial arts just like inida did not lead to the creation of other east asia martial arts..because china has older one but because china have bury and destroy many document of ancient chinese history before aand during the yellow emporer in the past we do not know much of possible chinese art befor shuai jiao
@myloveforMMA rifle did not evolve threw stone throwing and beside it was the chinese who also had the first rifle off bamboo and it was the ottoman who first have major use of it and start the advancement of gun warfare
@asian714cali Wow you're a complete idiot, so tell me, how did weapons start? Were humans born with spears and gunpowder? First weapon EVER by man kind, was a thrown stone, then a spear, then an atlatl, then a bow, then a crossbow, then cannons, then rifles, way back in the lineage, every weapon came from a thrown stone, that is the basis of our weapons today, thrown projectiles.
@myloveforMMA of course the firstg weapon is spear and stone i didnt deny that..i deny the part where you infer chinese base rifle off spear....which is stupid because they accidentally discover gun powder and use that to use as firework and small arm explosive like the ancient china grenade or bamboo rifle
@myloveforMMA I never said Wing Chun came before Shaolin Kung Fu or Pankration, so read carefully before stating irrelevant facts. "All the other fighting styles you mentioned originated AFTER Wing Chun" <-- that was wat i wrote. I am making a comparison with the fighting styles YOU MENTIONED, not all the ones that exist. The ppl that liked your reply could also learn some thorough reading skills.
@READComment1 I never said you said it did. So perhaps you should read carefully before you call out people on READING COMPREHENSION skills. When I say MMA, I mean every fighting style, including Wing Chun. It's MIXED MARTIAL ARTS. People hating on mixed martial arts because it's not "REAL" enough is stupid. How to you so called Kung Fu experts practice full sparring eyegouges and throat rips and groin shots? It's really hard to spar isn't it?
@myloveforMMA Urbeing hypocritical. If udidn't think I saidthat aboutWing Chun, whystate abunchof useless infoaboutPankration &Shaolin KF? Itwasobviously an attempt 2argue against sumthing I didn't say. Secondly, is a multitool always betterthan a knife alone? MMA is NOT BETTER than all other forms of combat justcuz it claims itis "mixed" Ur in noposition to saythatunless uhav practiced &understood all forms of combat. BTW U canstillpractice eyes/groinstrikes w/o maiming urpartner.
@READComment1 You're right man, let's not get childish between eachother with the he said I said, I've misunderstood. The number one thing I am trying to get across here, is the mindset of Jeet Kun Do or MMA is better than ANY MAN who just trains in one style. Bruce Lee said so himself, he studied so many other arts, and he said his style was to have no style, taking from arts what worked for him as he pleased, he is called by UFC's President the Father of MMA... Bruce Lee
@myloveforMMA There we go, now we're talking sense! I have nothing against MMA or any other fighting style. It was your first top rated comment (that's how I read it) that incited me 2comment. This practitioner does not do justice to Wing Chun but that does not mean a WC fighter is weak, and useless. A proficient sifu can take on any other fighter just like how a skilled MMA fighter can put up a good fight with anyone else. It depends onthe person; WC is dangerous if uget2 know it.
@READComment1 Yeah it's just a general problem that I've seen especially with Wing Chun guys online, for the most part, generally speaking, I've come across a great deal of Wing Chunners who just have a huge dislike for MMA. I can imagine why with all the fat Tapout guys who watch too much UFC talking shit all the time. But the general idea of mixing styles is superior to sticking with one style, something some TMA guys don't want to admit.
perhaps you should learn to understand the point. what was first isn't important at all. what are now the most effective techniques however are. things evolve and the first ones will always be left behind.
@MasterWarri Effectiveness is not determined by which came first; that is correct. But, most traditional Chinese martial arts have timeless practical applications and also continue to evolve. They are practiced around the world. If you study and practice that sophisticated art (&culture) properly, you will know what I am talking about. There is a tendency for people to judge w/o learning beforehand.
@espada9 First of all, the practitioner in the video does not do justice to the art of Wing Chun so basing your knowledge of Wing Chun on this 1 video is pretty foolish of you. If you learn more about this developed combat system and actually train with top-notch WC fighters, you will understand how fast these ppl move and how painfully they strike.
@READComment1 dontlisten to him he was closewith his fact but he is not accurate and he use some theory that can be cancel out by other theory such as alexander the great brought martial arts to india which is yet to be proven,and fyi china had proof of pratice of martial arts beforr e india and shaoliquan only two were recover..shuai jiao and sun bian quan
Let this be a lesson to all who shoot for the take down from 10ft out with no set up or follow through; a man in shiny pants will apparently play patty cake with your head.
@Shemywinks Wing Chun relies on the art on bone condensing and hardening, similar to what true NATIVE Muy Thai boxers go through when practicing as a sacred form of self discipline. Train your fists, forearms and shins against solid wood at increasing intensity for about 10 years, for a few hours a day and then decide if it's patty cake. Who knows about the man in this video, but a true artist, you might as well get hit with a baseball bat.
@squall5574 In all fairness, getting hit by a baseball bat swung a little under an inch from you just isn't going to do as much damage as you might think. Also,shin conditioning techniques are not exclusive to NATIVE Muay Thai practitioners; kick a heavy bag a few hundred times a day for long enough and you've got a conditioned shin,whether you like it or not :).
I've been hit by karatekas with little of the original skin left on their hands and although not quite baseball batty,it still hurt.
@Shemywinks There is an excerpt on why the Wing Chun strike is so devastating, The short distance that it travels from the center line to the target keeping the elbows inside generates a forward propulsion that acts like a battering ram, and the short range allows for 4 or more punches a second. I believe it was on Human Weapon. Imagine not swinging the bats, but choking up on the ends, and straight thrusting as hard as you can into someone's sternum or neck a few times.
@squall5574 Whilst I can see a case being made for the effectiveness of Wing Chun strikes due to the speed and overall volume, I would not try to contend that their effectiveness is predicated on power.A battering ram needs to build up momentum for it to become effective hence why people would swing it back before swinging it forward. Same principle applies to a punch;effectively swinging your body weight with good hip movemen will generate more power.It's basically comparing a jab and a cross.
@Shemywinks You'd have to view the excerpt. It goes into the physics behind the cause and effect of the force. It only takes 15 pounds of pressure in the right place to break a face bone, and Wing Chun plays at keeping close, and delivering short bursts of power. If I had a choice for how bad I wanted to be damaged, I'd let the boxer hit me over taking a short ranged explosive punch from Bruce Lee, that's just how I feel.
@squall5574 Whilst Bruce Lee was obviously proficient in TMA and jeet kun do as an ideology lends itself greatly to MMA,his overall fighting prowess seems overly exaggerated turning him into some inviolable demi god. That being said; a series of flash strikes to the sternum leaving one susceptible to a counter hook vs a well placed mexican hook to the liver? In all honesty,I'll let Bruce Lee use my head as a speed bag before I take another hit in the liver :)
@Shemywinks I can agree with this, I would never suggest that Win Chun defeats anyone no matter what. What made Bruce Lee so powerful was his incredible speed. It was unnatural, and I mean his speed from live demonstrations, not the films. He was proficient at speed breaking. "Bruce Lee's reacting + punching from a distance of three feet away was determined to be around five hundreths of a second (0.05 second)" Strength, is strength...velocity is power.
@squall5574 If you take 135 pounds, and move it across three feet of distance in .5 seconds the destructive force of that blow is incredible. However, he wasn't only fast...he did a lot of weight training, and curled weights of 75-80 pounds. Physical condition meant more to him than training technique. His muscle fiber was very condensed. Demi-God is a complete exaggeration, but the claim that he was one of the most, if not THE most fittest man, I would say is accurate.
@squall5574 But he's not putting the brunt of those 135lbs behind his punches due to the method of delivery, regardless of how much he curls. The Wing Chun punching style seems lacking in a myriad of ways, seemingly relying on a zombie like opponent plodding forward,in a straight line. Also I would contend that Manny Pacquiao's hand speed is at least comparable to Lee's.
@Shemywinks Bruce Lee's one inch punch is derived from Wing Chun, but it is not a Wing Chun punch. When Bruce delivers that punch, his entire body is the mechanism for propulsion...he is a very smart man, and understands how to throw a basic fundamental punch. Complete relaxation until the point of impact is the other key. Bruce Lee found a fundamental problem with delivering a punch from behind your body...telegraphed.
@squall5574 Any demonstration of an effective inch punch that I've seen has relied on measured concentration which, just is not conducive to any realistic scenario,sports or otherwise.We're in complete agreement in regards to the predictability of movement inherent in exaggerated,non fluid motions seeing as the intentions of a man holding his hands six inches from his chest would be rather telling as well. Rigidity is mostly frowned upon in traditional Muay Thai but in European Kickboxing...
@Shemywinks In earlier response to hip movement and efficiency of swing a battering ram. The punch itself clears a distance relative to a battering ram. They don't bring them back that far. There are holes in Win Chun as a combat art for sure, I don't disagree...but I think the value of it's striking offense while using defense is unmatched. Especially compared to traditional boxing punches. Research into what is considered power.
@squall5574 I honestly think there's little room for debate in regards to whether what is tantamount to a jab is as powerful a strike as one wherein the range of motion allows for better distribution of force due to body weight shifting behind said strike.
Regardless,even in defense the Wing Chun strike seems somewhat lacking.Whereas a jab delivered properly protects the chin and,if recoiled in time the temple, the W.Chun strike over commits and is susceptible to a myriad of counters.
@Shemywinks Suffice to say that the true formula for power is Power = Work divided by Time. Win Chun strikes are solid and fast. A jab is solid and fast, but it usually only comes from one hand. The defense Wing Chun provides is actually similar to that of boxing...keeping a line from head to chest. Something to get in the way of incoming blows. The only difference is the training used to achieve this. I believe what Bruce Lee wanted to share with us by creating the Inch punch
@squall5574 is that Power = Work over Time. Characteristically, if a person can land three solid Wing Chun punches to the nose or neck within the time it takes a jam to extend and retract once, even twice, the true power lies in the Wing Chun punch. The straight Chun punch has similar impact rating to a right cross, this has been proven. Throwing a cross leaves your elbow outside of your body, and therefore the extra energy is expended away from your center. The Wing Chun punch
@squall5574 lines your elbow up directly with your shoulder and so the energy is redirected forward after impact using your body as it's stopping power. You can throw them in quick succession. If you're a practitioner of martial arts, as I am, I encourage you to experiment on a heavy bag and see how many different ways you can achieve a consistent force with as little effort as possible. You'll surprise yourself...it surprised me, because I was also skeptical.
@squall5574 I've had the pleasure of sparring with Wing Chun practitioners at times and all three were incapable of evading a left hook after having also,for the most part, failed to land their strikes due to them not accounting for footwork or head movement.It's their linear nature that makes them all the easier to avoid. The slightest movement away from the opponent greatly diminishes the strikes effectiveness in ways that just aren't as egregious in other styles.
@squall5574 Now I'm the first to acknowledge how little I now about physics but it was always my understanding that the whole force =mass x acceleration essentially means that something that accelerates quickly for a longer period of time will eventually generate more force than something accelerating as quickly but for less time.
The twisting motion of a cross that leaves the elbow facing outward is just another contributing factor to a cross' power.
@squall5574 Tangents on punching power aside, the advise on takedown defense given in this video should only be heeded by those fending off attacks from shambling zombies.
@Shemywinks The show features a ranked MMA contender, check it out. Human Weapon on Kung Fu. I'm pretty sure is the show. He himself boast about the power, despite the close range and speed. He took a punch through a two inch pad, and it hurt him quite a bit, just one of them. The Grand Master could throw them incredibly fast, and again demonstrated his power.
@squall5574 Somehow I've managed to conflate "Human weapon" with National Geographic's "Sport Science". There's an episode on Sports Science wherein Rampage Jackson's punching power is quantified and his technique qualified.
On which of the two series did a proponent of TMA claim to be able to cut himself and not bleed due to the shielding properties of Chi only to have his arm turn into a bloody mess?
@Shemywinks I would say that a claim to not bleed is a gross overstatement on that person's part, there's a science behind some feats though...what the monks would truly practice is severe pain tolerance, Performing feats like balancing their body on four rounded spear tips, which if you've ever taken like a solid rounded tip and let someone push it into your chest really hard, it produces a gross amount of concentrated pain, because it separates muscle tissue.
@squall5574 Whilst an admirable feat which requires both physical and mental prowess it still is not exactly conducive to fighting outside the stringent requirements of said feat. For instance, I remember reading something about the strategic placement of a spears tip (rounded,maybe?) on dense throat cartilage being the basis of the whole snapping-a spear-with-your-neck trick.
you never strike when a takedown is being done to you it makes the takedown more easier...you should sprawl...and also if you want to know how to stop a takedown you ask someone who dose takedowns...how is someone who spends all of his time striking and on his feet going to know how to stop a takedown well?
the guy in the red suit saw the ip man movies and said: I can do that just throwing punches like a cat, let me make videos with my couch potato buddy, both techniquies are WRONG! the takedown is way too low, the shoulder must hit the center of the other guy to knock the center of gravity out of him in other for an easy takedown and slam, the wing chun punches comes from the shoulder so can be more power and a KO, not like a kid who's big brother is bullying him around. FAIL!!!!
@perpleducky if u want to actually hurt the attacker u have too, not enough force hitting like that in the video and u will get tired with no damage to the other person, he may just get up and beat u up! before the ipman movies and haven't seen those punches and Mr. Donnie Yen punches from the shoulder, watch closely, everybody else I've seen just doing it wrong, not even Bruce Lee did this and wing chun was his foundation
I like Wing Chun, but I don't think this is a realistic takedown defense. That throw at 0:03 is being done by a man standing on one foot against a man already on the ground. It would be very easy for the attacker to resist and counter this.
The dude doing the takedowns dont know anything about how to take down. He is doing everything my MMA teacher tells us not to do, cause otherwise we wont have strength or balance to go through with the takedown. So ofcourse he will fail. However, if done properly, the WingChun dude could never defend himself like that. Actually, his defense makes the takedown easier.
@OppressedAnarchist I disagree, as soon as he drops his head to come scoop, nice front toe kick under his chin, lights out. I've seen it happen. I've let it happen.
@OppressedAnarchist that guy? probably. a real wing chun master, u wont get down that easily. grabbing the legs exposes the entire back of ur head for an easy elbow to knock out the attacker.
he has the concept, but not the skill or real life experience
ehhhmmm... this is not how it works in a street fight. once i got tackled by a big guy. i punched his fuckin' face, yes his face not the back of the head. i punched him about 7 times while he was trying to do a takedown. the damn guy felt nothing. but then i used my fingers on his face and his throat. he start coughing immediately. that's why they are practising open hand and finger strike in oldschool kung fu. fighting with your muscle against a guy like hulk doesn't help you. no offence.
I actually like to incorporate a bit of sticking hands into my striking... but seriously, this guy would get crippled if he tried this on anybody who bothered to fight back... or knew how to shoot.
this guy is a joke....i was taught wing chun by a grand master (gold sash) don harris....this is nothng like any self defence i have ever come across. this guy is just stupid to say the least!
I love wingchun but this is very unrealistic. the guy shooting obviously sucks at it and he doesnt even seem like hes trying to take the guy down. -_-
This is complete BS. You get a experienced BJJ or Wrestler who actually knows what they are doing wing Chun is a complete waste of time. I cant think of 1 UFC fighter who does Wing Chun
i wrestled for 10 years and went state champ, then i started MMA mostly Boxing and BJJ one of my freinds i grew up with does wing chun as long as i can remember hes been doing it maybe 15 years. he also out weighs me by 25 pounds. he is very good at defending punches but soon as i close the distance with a bear hug and then take down he is useless i play with him on the ground like a little kid. also 90% of the street fights i have seen or been in have gone to the ground just sayin.
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Coming from a guy that has done a little wing chun and is a regular BJJ and Judo guy this is just loltastic. Worst ginle attempt ever. I mean if you are going to demo stuff at least have the take down look at least half way realistic. my god my grandma has a better single than that. just looooooooooooooooooooooooooool. Pathetic.
If you don't do real live sparring, you aren't really defending and you will lose, and lose hard, in a real fight. This goes to Wing Chun, Aikido, and any of those theories and compliant drills-only martial arts out there.
This is a perfect example on how people impliment unrealistick techniques in their programs.
If you think you have a technique againts takedowns, get a experised wrestler og BJJ to try to take you down.. and offer him 100 bucks if he succed... Then you have a commited and experienced opponent, compared to this..
If you ever tried a real fight, where everything is allowed, takedowns become VERY low priority, even thoug you know what it can end with, hitting just matters more.
@Decard2104 Your obviously not going to start a fight against a boxer or a wrestler on the street, technique works on the average human being who has no experience.
@Timmybnot 1. A average human with no experience would not try a takedown like those in the video anyway, they would clinch if able and drag you to the ground in old high school manners, since it is the only thing they really know.. Ask any bouncer and they would tell you that 9 out of 10 fights end on the ground when unexperienced people fight.. So they techniques shown dont work for experienced og unexperienced opponents. 2. Fighting a stranger rarely inform you of thier training
@Decard2104 Anyone who's sparred with a wrestler knows a wrestling take-down will destroy your balance. You want avoid wrestling take-downs learn to sprawl.
@side1981 I do know how to sprawl, BJJ people often uses the same technics as wrestlers for takedowns.
Still having problems understanding why you ask me about this, what did i write in the text that indikate that i never spared with a wrestler or dont know how to sprawl..??
Do you indikate that the takedowns in the video is the same as wrestlers uses..?
Wenn ihr keine Ahnung von Kampfsport habt und den ganzen Tag auf eurem Arsch sitzt würdet ihr in frühestens 10 Jahren so schnell sein wie der. ER scheint das schon lange zu machen und IHR? Also denkt mal nach bevor ihr negative Kommentare verfasst. Wtf zB....völlig sinnlos. Das stammt bestimmt von so einem pickeligen Vollidioten, der sich in der Grundschule behaupten muss aber kein Geld für training blechen will.
The title is misleading; it should be "Unschooled Takedown vs. Wing Chun." None but the most beginning grapplers would ineffectively hug the legs while you punch them. They would continue to drive forward attacking your base the whole time. I'm not saying Wing Chun doesn't have the potential to be effective against a grappler, but if you're going to present it as such you should really experiment with an experienced and non-compliant grappler.
this is not wing chun :/ embarrassing. moving out of the way and or sprawling is the only options
AsG1989 12 hours ago
Kung Fu people are such boners!
mathematics1800 21 hours ago
EVERY WRESTLER IN THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT THAT DOUBLE LEG 2 SECONDS IN!!!!! LOL!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!! ALL WRONG! HEAD IS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE BODY, DIDN'T DRIVE, AND DIDN'T EVEN SHOOT PROPERLY BECAUSE LAST TIME I CHECKED YOU HIT A DOUBLE ON YOUR KNEES, LOL.
mathematics1800 21 hours ago
You call that take down?
garveyli 2 days ago
I hate this guy in red, who else hates him - thumbs up!
BlessedSalmon 2 days ago
PAYASOS
STUPID FUCKS
pitoflaco 2 days ago
I find the lack of respect given to the take down after what one sees in the UFC demonstrative of the lack of observation skills necessary to function. The "attacker" did not shoot. He didn't know how. If we are relying on facing an impaired fighter to win the conflict, this is wrong. There are more high school wrestlers in the USA than wing chun (tsun) participants. Next time get a collegiate wrestler to demonstrate a proper take down. Then show me how you would stop it
gcsy926 3 days ago
hahahahahahahahahahahah, has someone saw in this video someone that can make a real takedown?
no.
8)
egwergfvf 3 days ago
what happends when the attackers athletic and explosive?
DonSangre 3 days ago
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shitty attack, freeze and please beat me my master!!! any MA works following this rules
treicy80 4 days ago
Let us all agree they are BAD...
SifuWongShunLeung 4 days ago
Don't do this in a real fight, you will die. Going against a very strong pissed off and talented person will just pick him up and slam him. At least thats what I would do. This coming from a bujinkan yondan... so I know what I'm talking about. Get someone who is under the influence as the attacker and he will ignore the pain. Your little fast girly punches effectively cause a LITTLE pain, confusion and fear but any skilled fighter will beat it.
h2opololefty 4 days ago
@h2opololefty I stopped taking that seriously on the "fast girly punches" part. ;)
Saofeng19 4 days ago
Let's see this against a high school wrestler.
ElliotArden 4 days ago
@ElliotArden against a Jr High School wrestler.
gcsy926 3 days ago
How embarrassing! LMAO
juicinup 5 days ago
they should practice with actual wrestlers
my4thone 5 days ago
You can tell it's going to be bullshit when someone posts a video entitled 'takedown vs wingchun' . It doesn't even really make sense. All the best takedown defences I've seen come from wrestling. learn to sprawl shiny pants man. It's a very low percentage move, trying to catch someone with a punch or knee on the way in. I bet you have never even tried this out. I bet you have never even punched someone for real.
blueingreentrain 5 days ago
Never attack a man with those shiny orange pants!! Ever!
If you want to take him down though - throw a few punches first to bring his hands up and then level-change and take-down. (First learn to wrestle properly, that shit was lame!)
must admit though, those shiney pants would be way to dangerous for MMA and probably get banned in the cage!
blueingreentrain 5 days ago
Those are weak takedown attempts. A power double would put you on you back and then the wing chun goes out the door from there.
futredoctr 6 days ago
I didn't think it was a bad video. Quick hands, showed some effective techniques to take down an opponent. Seems like everyone is an MMA star these days or just because they watched a few UFC PPV's then they know all the moves. It's a different beast when you fight a guy who doesn't just throw right haymakers the whole time.
enygma2u 6 days ago
@enygma2u You know nothing about martial arts.
ShalKekNemRon 6 days ago
@ShalKekNemRon I don't lose sleep over a comment made by some guy on a website who knows nada about my life or daily training.
enygma2u 6 days ago
And what happens when u do get taken down what u gona do then? Lay on your back and get fuked up or choked extra.. this is just to funny, look at those punches!
whitewhiteboy89 6 days ago
Lmao. Lets see this guy spar any collegiate wrestler. Looool so funny traditional martial arts are useless. Train mma if you want to no how to fight/protect yourself. Kickboxing/ muai Thai mixed with bjj/wrestling would beat this anytime. This guy should be ashamed, I feel bad for people who pay for this crap
whitewhiteboy89 6 days ago
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he knows the take down is coming!!! get hit in the face and have the opponent change levels get a double and pick your win chun ass up in the air and set you on your neck
gizzmo11477 6 days ago
hahahahaha oh my god this is hilarious. I'd love to see him try this on an actual wrestler
BootyBot 6 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
this seems legit
jamiegee123 6 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
dudes takedown defense is all in his shiny red pants, without them he'd be powerless
londncallin 6 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
Do it again only this time have the so called wrestler actually TRY and take you down.
Show me what you plan to do when he clinches and gets under hooks? Lettuce hands don’t work well in the clinch son.
espada9 6 days ago
Why is it that the guys that make videos like this, NEVER,.. EVER will allow someone with skill to test their claims?
You might as well be telling everyone that you know "Dim Mak".
TheCyndicate 6 days ago
So this is a tutorial on breaking your hand?
surreal7 6 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
hahah I remnber a time when people used to fall for this shit
albertoxFTW 6 days ago
you know your martial art sucks when both top comments are dissing it
punisher00109 6 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
this makes me laugh so hard
punisher00109 6 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
This video is so trash, get somebody that actually knows how to do a double leg and watch him rape your face with strikes from top position.
Nomack75 6 days ago
wtf.. where are kicking techniques.. just give one straight kick to the side of the head as the assailant comes down for takedown.....
3003kunal 1 week ago
IP MAN, does it better!!!!
extrememma4535 1 week ago
Yeah,try to stop Josh Barnett with this technique.
DjubreSvinja 1 week ago
Can't see this Wing Chun technique ever working, even against an untrained brawler.
NekoJinRei 1 week ago
See, now it is mumbo jumbo like that, and skinny little lizards like these guys that give real fighting a bad name.
TheCandyMan01 1 week ago
the top comments are bitches that probaly do MMA and wing chun can fuck mma up
MrSakan34 2 weeks ago
@MrSakan34 Wing Chun can fuck MMA up? Well I never have seen one succesful Wing Chun fighter in MMA. But I've seen succesful Karate, BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, and Wrestling fighters in MMA. So WIng Chun can't use the excuse that it;s too deadly, because all those martial arts I mentioned also have dirty techniques. And even in the street, imagine how dangerous MMA fighters would be if they had no gloves and decided to go for your eyes, throat, balls, spine, ect.... You fail sir.
myloveforMMA 2 weeks ago 10
@myloveforMMA
i agree with everything you said. people shoudn't trust in techniques that haven't been tested.
MasterWarri 1 week ago
@myloveforMMA The problem with comparing any Martial Art in current context is that most of them have turned into sport counterparts of the original intention. Wing Chun, or even the Chinese Kung Fu practiced by the Monks was a way of life, which is how it was typically practiced by the true Masters of Old would find few problems dealing with the unrefined tangling and generally sloppy movements of a modern sports martial artist.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 Things like weight training and aerobic work outs weren't even considered because you would spend half of your day fighting in almost full contact with your other classmates. These martial arts were refined, precise, and incredibly deadly when practiced the way they were designed to be practiced.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 Perhaps, but unless a Shaolin monk decides to fight hand to hand with a top 10 MMA fighter (who specializes in striking a bit more to keep it entertaining) with no rules allowed. Which I think neither man would do... we will never know. But when you compare your average serious Kung Fu practicioner to your average serious MMA practicioner... well we already know who is more of a force to be reckoned with hand to hand. The media has mystified martial arts so much.
myloveforMMA 1 week ago
@myloveforMMA First of all, Wing Chun is a martial art that was developed thousands of years ago. Back then, if was extremely effective in its pure way (which does include eye, groin, spine, etc. strikes). All the other fighting styles you mentioned originated AFTER Wing Chun. They are based on modern brutal street confrontations. If you study evolved Wing Chun, it is just as deadly. Wing Chun focuses on sensitivity and agility, and a good WC fighter will put up a very good fight!
READComment1 1 week ago
@READComment1 So man? The rifle evolved from Cavemen throwing stones, doesn't mean the stone is better. AND BY THE WAY, Wing Chun came from Shaolin Kung Fu, and Shaolin Kung Fu came from the Martial Arts the Indians Buddhist monks taught the Chinese, and those Indians got the Martial Arts from Alexander the Great when he brought Pankration to India, seriously man, do research, first Martial Art ever that spread to the world was Pankration, look at some Pankration videos.
myloveforMMA 1 week ago 2
@myloveforMMA
hahah, exactly! you pretty much owned any tma (especially chinese tma) nuthugger with just few sentences.
MasterWarri 1 week ago
@myloveforMMA westernbiased propaganda not all chinese martial arts are base of shaolin and beside the fact that china bury most of their combat hisory around 2696bce and before... they found some recorded and sculpture of china praticin art before that..two of which (Sun Bin Quan and shuai jiao) is the oldest today even older then kalaripayattu and pankration (not modern pankration which incoporated asian technique like tang soo do)
asian714cali 6 days ago
@myloveforMMA as for the theory alexander the great brought pankration to inda..that is merely a theory but kalariapayattu came to existence before any geek control india..i suggest you redo your research with outmisleading infomation from multi source(proffessional site,forum,book,people etc..)
asian714cali 6 days ago
@asian714cali I know, I've gotten this information from books, from online, people, and I also happened to see it in the History Channel. Well either way, even if Martial Arts didn't come from Pankration, I'd still rather train in an art that is documented the Spartans and Greeks would use to kill the enemy once their spears and swords broke or were lost, and funny thing is, Pankration looks SO MUCH LIKE MMA. And they would only do groin, eye, strikes in the battlefield.
myloveforMMA 6 days ago
@myloveforMMA i too have gottenmy infomation from history channel ,online ,website and other forum... but the theory alexander brounght pankratino to india and made kalairpayattu is just an unproven theory..plus the majority of history channel will tell you pankration is one of the oldest..not the oldest....i also see history channel clamiming kalaripayattu(older then pankration obviously) to be the oldest martial arts when their are other older then it such as shuai jiao
asian714cali 5 days ago
@myloveforMMA and obviously pankration is the first recorded form of mma..still didnt influence kalaripayattu and pankartaion definitely did not lead to the creation of indian martial arts just like inida did not lead to the creation of other east asia martial arts..because china has older one but because china have bury and destroy many document of ancient chinese history before aand during the yellow emporer in the past we do not know much of possible chinese art befor shuai jiao
asian714cali 5 days ago
@myloveforMMA rifle did not evolve threw stone throwing and beside it was the chinese who also had the first rifle off bamboo and it was the ottoman who first have major use of it and start the advancement of gun warfare
asian714cali 6 days ago
@asian714cali Wow you're a complete idiot, so tell me, how did weapons start? Were humans born with spears and gunpowder? First weapon EVER by man kind, was a thrown stone, then a spear, then an atlatl, then a bow, then a crossbow, then cannons, then rifles, way back in the lineage, every weapon came from a thrown stone, that is the basis of our weapons today, thrown projectiles.
myloveforMMA 6 days ago
@myloveforMMA Sure the first weapon was a club? More effective :P
ShalKekNemRon 6 days ago
@myloveforMMA of course the firstg weapon is spear and stone i didnt deny that..i deny the part where you infer chinese base rifle off spear....which is stupid because they accidentally discover gun powder and use that to use as firework and small arm explosive like the ancient china grenade or bamboo rifle
asian714cali 5 days ago
@myloveforMMA I never said Wing Chun came before Shaolin Kung Fu or Pankration, so read carefully before stating irrelevant facts. "All the other fighting styles you mentioned originated AFTER Wing Chun" <-- that was wat i wrote. I am making a comparison with the fighting styles YOU MENTIONED, not all the ones that exist. The ppl that liked your reply could also learn some thorough reading skills.
READComment1 6 days ago
@READComment1 I never said you said it did. So perhaps you should read carefully before you call out people on READING COMPREHENSION skills. When I say MMA, I mean every fighting style, including Wing Chun. It's MIXED MARTIAL ARTS. People hating on mixed martial arts because it's not "REAL" enough is stupid. How to you so called Kung Fu experts practice full sparring eyegouges and throat rips and groin shots? It's really hard to spar isn't it?
myloveforMMA 6 days ago
@myloveforMMA Urbeing hypocritical. If udidn't think I saidthat aboutWing Chun, whystate abunchof useless infoaboutPankration &Shaolin KF? Itwasobviously an attempt 2argue against sumthing I didn't say. Secondly, is a multitool always betterthan a knife alone? MMA is NOT BETTER than all other forms of combat justcuz it claims itis "mixed" Ur in noposition to saythatunless uhav practiced &understood all forms of combat. BTW U canstillpractice eyes/groinstrikes w/o maiming urpartner.
READComment1 5 days ago
@READComment1 You're right man, let's not get childish between eachother with the he said I said, I've misunderstood. The number one thing I am trying to get across here, is the mindset of Jeet Kun Do or MMA is better than ANY MAN who just trains in one style. Bruce Lee said so himself, he studied so many other arts, and he said his style was to have no style, taking from arts what worked for him as he pleased, he is called by UFC's President the Father of MMA... Bruce Lee
myloveforMMA 5 days ago
@myloveforMMA There we go, now we're talking sense! I have nothing against MMA or any other fighting style. It was your first top rated comment (that's how I read it) that incited me 2comment. This practitioner does not do justice to Wing Chun but that does not mean a WC fighter is weak, and useless. A proficient sifu can take on any other fighter just like how a skilled MMA fighter can put up a good fight with anyone else. It depends onthe person; WC is dangerous if uget2 know it.
READComment1 5 days ago
@READComment1 Yeah it's just a general problem that I've seen especially with Wing Chun guys online, for the most part, generally speaking, I've come across a great deal of Wing Chunners who just have a huge dislike for MMA. I can imagine why with all the fat Tapout guys who watch too much UFC talking shit all the time. But the general idea of mixing styles is superior to sticking with one style, something some TMA guys don't want to admit.
myloveforMMA 5 days ago
@READComment1
perhaps you should learn to understand the point. what was first isn't important at all. what are now the most effective techniques however are. things evolve and the first ones will always be left behind.
MasterWarri 6 days ago
@MasterWarri Effectiveness is not determined by which came first; that is correct. But, most traditional Chinese martial arts have timeless practical applications and also continue to evolve. They are practiced around the world. If you study and practice that sophisticated art (&culture) properly, you will know what I am talking about. There is a tendency for people to judge w/o learning beforehand.
READComment1 5 days ago
@READComment1: Deadly? I must have missed the deadly part, all I saw were lettuce hands and flimsy choreography.
espada9 6 days ago
@espada9 First of all, the practitioner in the video does not do justice to the art of Wing Chun so basing your knowledge of Wing Chun on this 1 video is pretty foolish of you. If you learn more about this developed combat system and actually train with top-notch WC fighters, you will understand how fast these ppl move and how painfully they strike.
READComment1 6 days ago
@READComment1 dontlisten to him he was closewith his fact but he is not accurate and he use some theory that can be cancel out by other theory such as alexander the great brought martial arts to india which is yet to be proven,and fyi china had proof of pratice of martial arts beforr e india and shaoliquan only two were recover..shuai jiao and sun bian quan
asian714cali 6 days ago
Let this be a lesson to all who shoot for the take down from 10ft out with no set up or follow through; a man in shiny pants will apparently play patty cake with your head.
Shemywinks 2 weeks ago 2
@Shemywinks Wing Chun relies on the art on bone condensing and hardening, similar to what true NATIVE Muy Thai boxers go through when practicing as a sacred form of self discipline. Train your fists, forearms and shins against solid wood at increasing intensity for about 10 years, for a few hours a day and then decide if it's patty cake. Who knows about the man in this video, but a true artist, you might as well get hit with a baseball bat.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 In all fairness, getting hit by a baseball bat swung a little under an inch from you just isn't going to do as much damage as you might think. Also,shin conditioning techniques are not exclusive to NATIVE Muay Thai practitioners; kick a heavy bag a few hundred times a day for long enough and you've got a conditioned shin,whether you like it or not :).
I've been hit by karatekas with little of the original skin left on their hands and although not quite baseball batty,it still hurt.
Shemywinks 1 week ago
@Shemywinks There is an excerpt on why the Wing Chun strike is so devastating, The short distance that it travels from the center line to the target keeping the elbows inside generates a forward propulsion that acts like a battering ram, and the short range allows for 4 or more punches a second. I believe it was on Human Weapon. Imagine not swinging the bats, but choking up on the ends, and straight thrusting as hard as you can into someone's sternum or neck a few times.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 Whilst I can see a case being made for the effectiveness of Wing Chun strikes due to the speed and overall volume, I would not try to contend that their effectiveness is predicated on power.A battering ram needs to build up momentum for it to become effective hence why people would swing it back before swinging it forward. Same principle applies to a punch;effectively swinging your body weight with good hip movemen will generate more power.It's basically comparing a jab and a cross.
Shemywinks 1 week ago
@Shemywinks You'd have to view the excerpt. It goes into the physics behind the cause and effect of the force. It only takes 15 pounds of pressure in the right place to break a face bone, and Wing Chun plays at keeping close, and delivering short bursts of power. If I had a choice for how bad I wanted to be damaged, I'd let the boxer hit me over taking a short ranged explosive punch from Bruce Lee, that's just how I feel.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 Whilst Bruce Lee was obviously proficient in TMA and jeet kun do as an ideology lends itself greatly to MMA,his overall fighting prowess seems overly exaggerated turning him into some inviolable demi god. That being said; a series of flash strikes to the sternum leaving one susceptible to a counter hook vs a well placed mexican hook to the liver? In all honesty,I'll let Bruce Lee use my head as a speed bag before I take another hit in the liver :)
Shemywinks 1 week ago
@Shemywinks I can agree with this, I would never suggest that Win Chun defeats anyone no matter what. What made Bruce Lee so powerful was his incredible speed. It was unnatural, and I mean his speed from live demonstrations, not the films. He was proficient at speed breaking. "Bruce Lee's reacting + punching from a distance of three feet away was determined to be around five hundreths of a second (0.05 second)" Strength, is strength...velocity is power.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 If you take 135 pounds, and move it across three feet of distance in .5 seconds the destructive force of that blow is incredible. However, he wasn't only fast...he did a lot of weight training, and curled weights of 75-80 pounds. Physical condition meant more to him than training technique. His muscle fiber was very condensed. Demi-God is a complete exaggeration, but the claim that he was one of the most, if not THE most fittest man, I would say is accurate.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 But he's not putting the brunt of those 135lbs behind his punches due to the method of delivery, regardless of how much he curls. The Wing Chun punching style seems lacking in a myriad of ways, seemingly relying on a zombie like opponent plodding forward,in a straight line. Also I would contend that Manny Pacquiao's hand speed is at least comparable to Lee's.
Shemywinks 1 week ago
@Shemywinks Bruce Lee's one inch punch is derived from Wing Chun, but it is not a Wing Chun punch. When Bruce delivers that punch, his entire body is the mechanism for propulsion...he is a very smart man, and understands how to throw a basic fundamental punch. Complete relaxation until the point of impact is the other key. Bruce Lee found a fundamental problem with delivering a punch from behind your body...telegraphed.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 Any demonstration of an effective inch punch that I've seen has relied on measured concentration which, just is not conducive to any realistic scenario,sports or otherwise.We're in complete agreement in regards to the predictability of movement inherent in exaggerated,non fluid motions seeing as the intentions of a man holding his hands six inches from his chest would be rather telling as well. Rigidity is mostly frowned upon in traditional Muay Thai but in European Kickboxing...
Shemywinks 1 week ago
@squall5574 not as much. Purely anecdotal,though I wouldn't go etching that in stone.
Shemywinks 1 week ago
@Shemywinks In earlier response to hip movement and efficiency of swing a battering ram. The punch itself clears a distance relative to a battering ram. They don't bring them back that far. There are holes in Win Chun as a combat art for sure, I don't disagree...but I think the value of it's striking offense while using defense is unmatched. Especially compared to traditional boxing punches. Research into what is considered power.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 I honestly think there's little room for debate in regards to whether what is tantamount to a jab is as powerful a strike as one wherein the range of motion allows for better distribution of force due to body weight shifting behind said strike.
Regardless,even in defense the Wing Chun strike seems somewhat lacking.Whereas a jab delivered properly protects the chin and,if recoiled in time the temple, the W.Chun strike over commits and is susceptible to a myriad of counters.
Shemywinks 1 week ago
@Shemywinks Suffice to say that the true formula for power is Power = Work divided by Time. Win Chun strikes are solid and fast. A jab is solid and fast, but it usually only comes from one hand. The defense Wing Chun provides is actually similar to that of boxing...keeping a line from head to chest. Something to get in the way of incoming blows. The only difference is the training used to achieve this. I believe what Bruce Lee wanted to share with us by creating the Inch punch
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 is that Power = Work over Time. Characteristically, if a person can land three solid Wing Chun punches to the nose or neck within the time it takes a jam to extend and retract once, even twice, the true power lies in the Wing Chun punch. The straight Chun punch has similar impact rating to a right cross, this has been proven. Throwing a cross leaves your elbow outside of your body, and therefore the extra energy is expended away from your center. The Wing Chun punch
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 lines your elbow up directly with your shoulder and so the energy is redirected forward after impact using your body as it's stopping power. You can throw them in quick succession. If you're a practitioner of martial arts, as I am, I encourage you to experiment on a heavy bag and see how many different ways you can achieve a consistent force with as little effort as possible. You'll surprise yourself...it surprised me, because I was also skeptical.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 I've had the pleasure of sparring with Wing Chun practitioners at times and all three were incapable of evading a left hook after having also,for the most part, failed to land their strikes due to them not accounting for footwork or head movement.It's their linear nature that makes them all the easier to avoid. The slightest movement away from the opponent greatly diminishes the strikes effectiveness in ways that just aren't as egregious in other styles.
Shemywinks 1 week ago
@squall5574 Now I'm the first to acknowledge how little I now about physics but it was always my understanding that the whole force =mass x acceleration essentially means that something that accelerates quickly for a longer period of time will eventually generate more force than something accelerating as quickly but for less time.
The twisting motion of a cross that leaves the elbow facing outward is just another contributing factor to a cross' power.
Shemywinks 1 week ago
@squall5574 Tangents on punching power aside, the advise on takedown defense given in this video should only be heeded by those fending off attacks from shambling zombies.
Shemywinks 1 week ago 10
@Shemywinks The show features a ranked MMA contender, check it out. Human Weapon on Kung Fu. I'm pretty sure is the show. He himself boast about the power, despite the close range and speed. He took a punch through a two inch pad, and it hurt him quite a bit, just one of them. The Grand Master could throw them incredibly fast, and again demonstrated his power.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 Somehow I've managed to conflate "Human weapon" with National Geographic's "Sport Science". There's an episode on Sports Science wherein Rampage Jackson's punching power is quantified and his technique qualified.
On which of the two series did a proponent of TMA claim to be able to cut himself and not bleed due to the shielding properties of Chi only to have his arm turn into a bloody mess?
Shemywinks 1 week ago
@Shemywinks I would say that a claim to not bleed is a gross overstatement on that person's part, there's a science behind some feats though...what the monks would truly practice is severe pain tolerance, Performing feats like balancing their body on four rounded spear tips, which if you've ever taken like a solid rounded tip and let someone push it into your chest really hard, it produces a gross amount of concentrated pain, because it separates muscle tissue.
squall5574 1 week ago
@squall5574 Whilst an admirable feat which requires both physical and mental prowess it still is not exactly conducive to fighting outside the stringent requirements of said feat. For instance, I remember reading something about the strategic placement of a spears tip (rounded,maybe?) on dense throat cartilage being the basis of the whole snapping-a spear-with-your-neck trick.
Shemywinks 1 week ago
you never strike when a takedown is being done to you it makes the takedown more easier...you should sprawl...and also if you want to know how to stop a takedown you ask someone who dose takedowns...how is someone who spends all of his time striking and on his feet going to know how to stop a takedown well?
jiujitsukh 2 weeks ago in playlist defenses against a takedown
Both of these people are retarded.
BlitzkriegATX 2 weeks ago
autotake down..... good job :/
treicy80 2 weeks ago
WTF that is not how you take someone down that's how you get your head stepped on!
MarbleDemo 2 weeks ago
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TheMascotTom 2 weeks ago
the guy in the red suit saw the ip man movies and said: I can do that just throwing punches like a cat, let me make videos with my couch potato buddy, both techniquies are WRONG! the takedown is way too low, the shoulder must hit the center of the other guy to knock the center of gravity out of him in other for an easy takedown and slam, the wing chun punches comes from the shoulder so can be more power and a KO, not like a kid who's big brother is bullying him around. FAIL!!!!
axgo21 2 weeks ago
@axgo21 in wing chun you dont hit from the shoulder sir
perpleducky 2 weeks ago
@perpleducky if u want to actually hurt the attacker u have too, not enough force hitting like that in the video and u will get tired with no damage to the other person, he may just get up and beat u up! before the ipman movies and haven't seen those punches and Mr. Donnie Yen punches from the shoulder, watch closely, everybody else I've seen just doing it wrong, not even Bruce Lee did this and wing chun was his foundation
axgo21 2 weeks ago
I like Wing Chun, but I don't think this is a realistic takedown defense. That throw at 0:03 is being done by a man standing on one foot against a man already on the ground. It would be very easy for the attacker to resist and counter this.
storyacoustic 2 weeks ago
worst takedown defense ever just go to a wrestling class and learn how to sprawl
NjWingchun 2 weeks ago
emin boztepe is a smug son of a bitch.
yarokyan 3 weeks ago
I do wing tsun and i think this is shit....
our takedown defense is a sprawl
MLLK338 3 weeks ago
Wrestlers dont want to see the truth. The cant handle that their stupid takedowns are easily stopped by a trained Wing Chungest.
This is why every UFC weigh class is being dominated by Wing Chun fighters.
Check Mate wrestlers
plrpower 3 weeks ago
he knows that he is going to do a double leg so that makes it fake
wuuht 3 weeks ago
He doesn't even shoot the single properly... who the fuck kneels down on their back leg? rofl some wrestler.
olamprov 3 weeks ago
The dude doing the takedowns dont know anything about how to take down. He is doing everything my MMA teacher tells us not to do, cause otherwise we wont have strength or balance to go through with the takedown. So ofcourse he will fail. However, if done properly, the WingChun dude could never defend himself like that. Actually, his defense makes the takedown easier.
bailattelo 3 weeks ago 10
@bailattelo Yes that right bro.
jayjairismma 1 week ago
@bailattelo I agree with you completely. I take a Wing Chun, Judo and a Mudokwan class each twice weekly. I will never use Wing Chun in a fight.
ericjb86 1 week ago
this guy doesnt even know how to sprawl...one of the first things u learn in wrestling.
Ill take 100 bucks on any freshmen high school wrestlers against this dude ANYDAY
bertohtown41 3 weeks ago
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GrecoWrestlerNJ70 3 weeks ago
why taekwondo XD
2124161 3 weeks ago
well..all of you arrogant white bull..please try the shaolin vs another martial art you have before u comment =)
TheMrRagewolf 3 weeks ago
another weird part of youtube @.@
Carpisung 3 weeks ago
@OppressedAnarchist Yes, and my uncle with a gun would kill him...wow man this is a demonstration, not a fight. Retard
19082010FLY 3 weeks ago
bad demonstration...
klarensiv 4 weeks ago
You know he was as close as he wanted him to be :P 1:03
SoopaDoopaCoupa 4 weeks ago
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SoopaDoopaCoupa 4 weeks ago
Hmm i have the feeling were not getting the true art of wing chun here...
bobw72 4 weeks ago
Close your eyes. It sounds like someone ripping his pants off and masturbating furiously
KazperTheStreetPoet 4 weeks ago
uhmmmmmm......... nooooo. This wouldn't work.
olamprov 1 month ago
@OppressedAnarchist I disagree, as soon as he drops his head to come scoop, nice front toe kick under his chin, lights out. I've seen it happen. I've let it happen.
TijuanaPhysician 1 month ago
@OppressedAnarchist that guy? probably. a real wing chun master, u wont get down that easily. grabbing the legs exposes the entire back of ur head for an easy elbow to knock out the attacker.
he has the concept, but not the skill or real life experience
Shanksor88 1 month ago
IT'S JUST LIKE DEEP BLUE SEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheLockon00 1 month ago
This is so awful im not even going to comment........
PhorPhukSake 1 month ago
BAD BAD BAD!
theerasmussoldier 1 month ago
all i see is just a brawl ==
enquandog 1 month ago
Wing Chun will kill any wrestling takedowns, but this shit here DON"T WORK.
ComicBookGo 1 month ago
ehhhmmm... this is not how it works in a street fight. once i got tackled by a big guy. i punched his fuckin' face, yes his face not the back of the head. i punched him about 7 times while he was trying to do a takedown. the damn guy felt nothing. but then i used my fingers on his face and his throat. he start coughing immediately. that's why they are practising open hand and finger strike in oldschool kung fu. fighting with your muscle against a guy like hulk doesn't help you. no offence.
KubilayHanTR 1 month ago
lol
TheCandyMan01 1 month ago
not good...
08yellowbike 1 month ago
I actually like to incorporate a bit of sticking hands into my striking... but seriously, this guy would get crippled if he tried this on anybody who bothered to fight back... or knew how to shoot.
Miketheasshole 1 month ago 5
que estupidez!!!!!!!!
renzopaulo 1 month ago
this guy is a joke....i was taught wing chun by a grand master (gold sash) don harris....this is nothng like any self defence i have ever come across. this guy is just stupid to say the least!
crosserkid125 1 month ago
Look how the wing chun bloke clenches his fist....you hit someone hard with your fist clenched like that you are gonna fuck up your hand.
mnbaldie 1 month ago
Are you serious ???
reppait 1 month ago
it is gayest anti grappling i've ever seen :D
gercekcommander 1 month ago
This is the real deal. Meant for the mean streets.
Noth some MMA Bull*** for people who like to hugh each other on the ground.
Taskmaster300 1 month ago in playlist Meer video's van combatantdvd
I love wingchun but this is very unrealistic. the guy shooting obviously sucks at it and he doesnt even seem like hes trying to take the guy down. -_-
javilito67 1 month ago
Faggot! Respeect The Wing Chun!
jericouzumaki123 1 month ago
This is complete BS. You get a experienced BJJ or Wrestler who actually knows what they are doing wing Chun is a complete waste of time. I cant think of 1 UFC fighter who does Wing Chun
jisthebest50 1 month ago
this aint wing chun its just gay
joa12341000 1 month ago
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@richardlepse The title didn't say Taekwondo ;)
ThePinkMan 1 month ago
seriously? if someone came to tackle me and came that low id just sparta kick him in the face and fights over -_______-
jewlombian 1 month ago
i wrestled for 10 years and went state champ, then i started MMA mostly Boxing and BJJ one of my freinds i grew up with does wing chun as long as i can remember hes been doing it maybe 15 years. he also out weighs me by 25 pounds. he is very good at defending punches but soon as i close the distance with a bear hug and then take down he is useless i play with him on the ground like a little kid. also 90% of the street fights i have seen or been in have gone to the ground just sayin.
cambone456 1 month ago
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rothmansinternationa 1 month ago
i love this combat art dude those chinese people are genius
GAJMx26 1 month ago
This is bull shit!!!
emchowdhury 1 month ago
Man, If someone were to try and bite my crotch I wouldn't stop at taking him down and punching him in the face....
nagromgreen 1 month ago
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Coming from a guy that has done a little wing chun and is a regular BJJ and Judo guy this is just loltastic. Worst ginle attempt ever. I mean if you are going to demo stuff at least have the take down look at least half way realistic. my god my grandma has a better single than that. just looooooooooooooooooooooooooool. Pathetic.
FloppyMcNutZ 1 month ago
1:26 "From this position..." ...he pulls his arms in and you fall.
TheTerrorUforgot 1 month ago
If you don't do real live sparring, you aren't really defending and you will lose, and lose hard, in a real fight. This goes to Wing Chun, Aikido, and any of those theories and compliant drills-only martial arts out there.
TheTerrorUforgot 1 month ago
This is a perfect example on how people impliment unrealistick techniques in their programs.
If you think you have a technique againts takedowns, get a experised wrestler og BJJ to try to take you down.. and offer him 100 bucks if he succed... Then you have a commited and experienced opponent, compared to this..
If you ever tried a real fight, where everything is allowed, takedowns become VERY low priority, even thoug you know what it can end with, hitting just matters more.
Decard2104 1 month ago 40
@Decard2104 Your obviously not going to start a fight against a boxer or a wrestler on the street, technique works on the average human being who has no experience.
Timmybnot 1 month ago
@Timmybnot 1. A average human with no experience would not try a takedown like those in the video anyway, they would clinch if able and drag you to the ground in old high school manners, since it is the only thing they really know.. Ask any bouncer and they would tell you that 9 out of 10 fights end on the ground when unexperienced people fight.. So they techniques shown dont work for experienced og unexperienced opponents. 2. Fighting a stranger rarely inform you of thier training
Decard2104 1 month ago
@Decard2104 You've never spared with a wrestler have you.
side1981 1 month ago
@side1981 Not a PURE wrestler, but MMA and BJJ people many times...
Why you ask..?
Decard2104 3 weeks ago
@Decard2104 Anyone who's sparred with a wrestler knows a wrestling take-down will destroy your balance. You want avoid wrestling take-downs learn to sprawl.
side1981 3 weeks ago
@side1981 I do know how to sprawl, BJJ people often uses the same technics as wrestlers for takedowns.
Still having problems understanding why you ask me about this, what did i write in the text that indikate that i never spared with a wrestler or dont know how to sprawl..??
Do you indikate that the takedowns in the video is the same as wrestlers uses..?
Decard2104 3 weeks ago
Wenn ihr keine Ahnung von Kampfsport habt und den ganzen Tag auf eurem Arsch sitzt würdet ihr in frühestens 10 Jahren so schnell sein wie der. ER scheint das schon lange zu machen und IHR? Also denkt mal nach bevor ihr negative Kommentare verfasst. Wtf zB....völlig sinnlos. Das stammt bestimmt von so einem pickeligen Vollidioten, der sich in der Grundschule behaupten muss aber kein Geld für training blechen will.
00Hayler00 1 month ago
wtf is this shit?
h0rschdify 1 month ago
Gayyyyy!!
Pocket13sClothing 1 month ago
The title is misleading; it should be "Unschooled Takedown vs. Wing Chun." None but the most beginning grapplers would ineffectively hug the legs while you punch them. They would continue to drive forward attacking your base the whole time. I'm not saying Wing Chun doesn't have the potential to be effective against a grappler, but if you're going to present it as such you should really experiment with an experienced and non-compliant grappler.
Kwimalo 1 month ago