M4 58rps, 409fps

[UrbanLegendsAirsoft]

thumbs up if you tilted your head sideways

[msigt740]

are you actually aloud to use that!?

[gamewiz0070]

@msigt740 run boy run. lol

[TheJimsterJim]

haha it basically shoots a laser beam of bbs XD

[antipanzys]

14.8v 25 cc lipo battery will make almost any gun with a high speed motor shoot over 40 rps but getting your gun to handle it for over it a minute that's the hard part

[plowdawg555]

That will make the noobs call there hits.

[MacHowToz]

now thats just not fair if your on the receiving end

[FullMetalAsh]

People gonna hate playing against you!

[EastCoastSOG]

mother of god...

[TheFatNipple]

gotta love Pack a Punch

[AnkelBreaker101]

Dang Man! I hope to make my gun that fast

[nonamre]

I'd love to see a full review of the gun! (externals, internals, etc.)

[Napperproductions]

sounds like a foam ball shooter

[CrazyPolishSnip3r]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

[kellycolburn1]

Bring this to a field, the reactions would be better than the gameplay.

[AchilliesDefence]

ehh not bad for that pos stock gun.... trololololololol

[AirsoftWorld10]

does this gun just scare the crap out of people when you go to a game?

[MacHowToz]

HOLY SHIT.  it sounds like a fucken motorcycle its going so fast. damn bro im so jelly

[SaturatedLivingTV]

Thats bad as hell. Very envious of this setup. Going for the same thing on a VFC platform. How is reliability?

[PETERGUNZZ559]

Super sick bro!!!

[ProbablyCoolerThanU]

8-)

[darktrooper4]

awesome gun but why would you ever need to shoot that fast?

[nived9559]

how much did the upgrades cost you in total not including the battery?

[zleereed]

SICK!

[Jdogdrums7]

does your 6.01 barrel jam often?? i thought 6.01 wasnt good for very high speed setups.

[FTCoolio]

That sounds cool

[GravitysGame]

You probably should avoid $30 TBBs. Just saying. A good bucking or R-hop, or at least a high quality 6.03, will end up being much more accurate at longer ranges, and won't jam up as much.

[TheItalian26]

box mag?

[MrKukkeliskuu]

I just hate it when someone shoots at me with something like this...

"Jesus! Stop shooting! Im drowning in bbs!"

[97ghillie]

this is so sick it doesnt even sound like an airsoft gun it sounds like a paintball gun

[TheSgtMad]

Awasome gun! More vids plz!!

[pmrowe22]

This build is very close to the parts list I have. I'm just waiting to get my gearbox in the mail. I'm not looking forward to getting the SP170 inside the box though. You have any trouble with that?

[Red6Air6oft]

Holy shit! How much did all of those parts cost?

[simonmadejun]

@dtabuena how reliable is this set up?

[NXPenguinFlutist]

@simonmadejun Reliable if you do it right. Fast setups eat up your pistons however, so you have to replace them every so often.

[smeagle9999]

why???? WHY?!?!?!!

[BassBoostedMusic101]

CA FTW BRO

[andromedarr]

@dtabuena:

I would advise against teflon washers for AoE adjustment. The low friction coefficient of teflon is useless for AoE, and so you are dealing with one disadvantage of teflon: Creep. The material will deform after a while, especially with that SP170, and then your AoE is off.

[jaskljdflask]

@andromedarr Friction has nothing to do with AoE, metal is to heavy; sorbo is softer than teflon, deforms faster.

[andromedarr]

@jaskljdflask Yes, i said that the low friction of PTFE is useless when correcting AoE. Sorbothane is flexible and when you install the spring, the sorbo compresses until it is limited by the cylinderwalls, and from there, it cant deform more. Teflon on the other hand, slowly deforms, leaving the piston farther forward by the smallest increments every shot, and after a few thousands, your AoE will be off.

[jaskljdflask]

@andromedarr Not to get into a drawn out argument but, I am using a bore up system due to a longer than recommended barrel length. As a result i have a conical PH & CH rendering AoE adjustments done to the CH rather difficult. My second option was to adjust AoE via spacers between PH and piston. I went the light weight path with teflon washers because they are not metal, not for lubricity. In this setup piston head coming loose would be the first sign of deformation not bad AoE.

[jaskljdflask]

@jaskljdflask I have not had this issue. Also your limit to defomation on sorbo only holds true when the sorbo has no paths to deform into pushed up the cylinder wall AND no hole in the middle of the cylinder head. Either method works fine the deformation is really minimal.

[andromedarr]

@jaskljdflask Ok, well at least i'd choose normal plastic, possibly fiber reenforced one for AoE correction. This material wont deform constantly and is better suited for AoE adjustment.

[jaskljdflask]

@andromedarr I could switch to that but then Id have to source some and then install it and with my setup past 40k rds with no replacement parts I think ill just take the easy way out...

[nived9559]

What gears do u have?

[kellycolburn1]

@nived9559 Most likely duel sector gears (DSG) or something else. But most likely the DSG gears....

[andromedarr]

@nived9559 Siegetek Gears with a Dual Sector Gear. Best gears on the market. CNC machined out of chrome molybdenum steel, the bevel gear is forged, and the gears are case hardened.

[JogiBaB00]

sp 170 & only 400fps??  u doing it wrong :)

[xCOWSRYUMMYx]

@JogiBaB00 hes got a dual sector gear in it the piston can only go back halfway 400 fps is awesome for a dsg build

[SuperAnonymguy]

sounds like a minigun :D

[monsimand]

awesome

[AnthraxBomb13]

I just got a boner

[zabuza6060]

Dear god... its like a laser rifle D=

[dylanspoptarts]

whatall did u do to the internals?

[SaitekFreak999]

@dylanspoptarts description...

[mazman6895]

dude get some game footage with this, thats a sick gun.

[Maekiii]

Still running?

[thefoshizle2]

do you have an active breaking mosfet?

[KeVeNT64DSCW120]

that is very little fps with sp170, dont you think? but very nice rof =D xD

[nathanwilkening]

@KeVeNT64DSCW120 It's a Dual Sector Gear setup, so the piston is only being pulled back halfway ; )

[KeVeNT64DSCW120]

@nathanwilkening

ahaaa =D now i understand.. but, why sp170? for 410 fps you can do in sp120

[andromedarr]

@KeVeNT64DSCW120 No you cant, this thing has a dual sector gear, and that reduces the FPS by half. So a 700 FPS spring will only give 350. Its like short stroking by 8 teeth.

[KeVeNT64DSCW120]

@andromedarr

ahaa.. know i understand :D tnx^^

[airsoftreviewjunkie]

why would u use this in battle you would run outa bbs

[theairsoftguy57]

ill buy this gun from u, just name the price

[comminus1]

Nice gun, high speed motor or infinite torque motor?

[Mjarf88]

How many rounds have you put through this gun so far?

[ajr1213]

PLEASE MAKE SOME OTHER VIDEOS OF THIS GUN!!!!!

[ajr1213]

I am in love with this gun. Is this just a normal jg red motor? Is it rewound or anything?

[mistersteeg]

How bucking have you got inside? And What spring?

[Maekiii]

Are you working on the new vid yet? : )

[Knights6Express]

where did you get the battery?

[ClactuSucks]

That's simply great!!! So mid cap mags can actually fees 58+ rps? Nice, I'm having many missfeeding troubles with hi cap mags at crazy speeds XD

[chubbs636]

lol that would be interesting for home defense, i sure as hell would not want a face full of bbs

[FrontTowardEnemy2]

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

[michka1992]

could u show the hole gun in a video? like whats in there and how itz looks like?!

its a totaly beast!!!

[RandomGamer1911]

What mags do you use?

[TheMrsfatman]

crap

[21185003239070]

sounds like a fuckign laser gun. i bet you go through a fuck tonne of ammo.

[agors26]

great job man, how do you do with the magazine?

i tried at 45rps and my mag are not able to do this!

why not try a xyclone motor?

[dtabuena]

@agors26 Xyclone motors are just the same motor I have but rewound by 3one and no one has really been able to prove by numbers that they are better so I just saved some money. I used to use hicaps but they only feed about as well as yours so I switched to MAG 190rnd midcaps of which I carry 10. They dont weigh me down too much but it can be hard to keep track of which ones I have used, after awhile ingame.

[agors26]

@dtabuena 190rd mag could be great, i will try 600bbs mag!

have you got a link to how to rewind a motor?

[dtabuena]

@agors26 I do not have one although i havent looked too hard. From what I know its not particularly hard to do just time consuming and if you mess up, the motor may fry or you could wreck your magnets.

[Maekiii]

@dtabuena Mine dboys highcaps feed perfectly at 50rps! check my vid. :)

[dtabuena]

@Maekiii Yeah my CA hi's fed when they were brand new but halfway throught the first game day they were getting clogged with dust and having problems so i just said f' it and went for mids. I know i promised you more vids they are coming. Im playing this weekend so ill take another shot at some ingame footage.

[ClactuSucks]

@dtabuena I have an AK 74 shooting at about 40 rps (13:1 gears + shortstroke) I know it's nothing but still...... my hicaps are unable to feed the whole damn thing. Would you think I will get definitely out of this problem if I start using midcaps? Thanks.....

[chubbs636]

@dtabuena you ever try a flashmag?

[Quickscoper277]

@agors26 fiesty, and spicy!!!!!!

[martino1119]

By bucking, when i shoot in single mode the bb arrive 40 m long, when i shot on automatic mode the bb arrive long 20 m,i've got dual sector gear inside.

[dtabuena]

@martino1119 most likely nozzle not being able to move fast enough. Also make sure you are using ported piston head and/or nozzle with air channels and that air can get into cylinder when doing reverse compression test.

[martino1119]

Did you have a problem with Bucking? I've got a problem,but i'm not sure it is caused by noozle

[WELLG96]

dude that is sexy......great paint job too

[3rd0ptik]

Also where can I find the DSG gear set like yours, cant find them anywhere.. Thanks a bunch..

[hmg9194]

@3rd0ptik siegitek, now sold on asgi actually

[3rd0ptik]

Is this set up reliable? How long can it be fielded before you have to work on it.. and is it accurate? what kind of range do you get? also, you say your using a 170 spring??

Sorry for the questions, I am concidering a DSG set up for my m249.. just trying to get as much info as possible..

Your gun, mad impressive, fastest on youtube!! ;^)

[DisguisedAirsofter]

@3rd0ptik Not fastest on youtube... there is faster...

However, it is impressive.

[ajr1213]

I want to build this exact gun. this thing is freaking amazing. so when you say you do maintenance what do you mean?

[dtabuena]

@ajr1213 I make sure that theres tons of dirt and no lube left in my mechbox...

[ajr1213]

@dtabuena haha.

[eXpoZeyourself]

How long did that motor last with that lipo?

[dtabuena]

@eXpoZeyourself For all the every one who keeps asking how long my gun took to break... every single piece that was in the gun when I took the video is still in the gun and working fine after 25K rounds except the hop up bucking which tore and was replaced.

[Maekiii]

@dtabuena Can you make more vids of this gun? :3

[dtabuena]

@Maekiii I suppose i could. Anything in particular you would like to see

[Maekiii]

@dtabuena longer burst to longer distances. The stream of bb's look so entertaining. :D Maybe the gearbox in closer detailtoo, when you do some maintenance to it. :)

[dtabuena]

@Maekiii Yeah i could do that, might have to wait on the mechbox detail though i just did maintinence last weekend

[Doomcommin]

@dtabuena hey could u maybe make a list of the internals :) ?

[dtabuena]

@Doomcommin Updated the descritpion to include internals part list.

[DeadSilent120]

@dtabuena Not bad, man!

I suppose you used all the best parts then huh?

[shiskabobilitious]

ah. so.. would you ever be interested in selling/trading this gun?

[dtabuena]

@shiskabobilitious Haha no... If you cant build one of your own you'll never be able to maintain this one.

[shiskabobilitious]

@dtabuena i can i just dont have the funds.

[shiskabobilitious]

I think that you should make a video of you using this gun at a game, I bet this thing would wreck.

[dtabuena]

@shiskabobilitious I did at one point but you cant see what im shooting at despite it being HD so i just look like some redneck shooting up the forest

[jackknife66]

That sounds freaking awesome haha

[dtabuena]

@MarksmanSHADOWCoIAD i use a home made mosfet w/o AB

[CASTAirsoft]

its a 'mini' minigun

[MrGodOfWarful]

HAHAHAH that sound is so funny ^^

[EBB47]

That THING SOUNDS SICK ON SEMI!!!!

and by the way... even if i had a real gun... you'd still own me with that thing

[nothinbutnett01]

@MarksmanSHADOWCoIAD Piston is SHS, using CA bore up kit gearbox has never cracked, its a stock 6mm CA box from ~6 years ago. Im not sure what an STS is.

[azzadabbaza]

how much?

[carltehkin]

Remind me NEVER to get in your way...

[ItsCarbonFiber]

Colest shit ever.

[whittierwasabi]

Does ur motor and wires heat up pretty fast?

[nothinbutnett01]

@whittierwasabi nope not at all actually

[xxthedrizzlexx]

great job btw , and where did ya get the gears ?

[dtabuena]

@xxthedrizzlexx RiotSC's gears from airsoft mechanics balanced ratio (20.XX) plus 8 tooth DSG on a JG red motor

[xxthedrizzlexx]

@dtabuena where did you purchase the dsg ? And kudos to jg I always thought they were shit

[airsofterzz]

@dtabuena did you have trouble shimming these? mine are tight in the gearbox. what box u usin? thanks

[dtabuena]

@airsofterzz I am using a very old 6mm Classic Army box. I have heard of other people having problems with CA's being off spec but i dont know the details. The only issue I encountered was that on my box there is a shelf around the spur gear on the right half of the gearbox that needed to be ground down to accomodate the width of the smaller set of teeth on the spur gear. This shelf originaly made me think that it was unshimmable but turns out it wasn't the axle that was binding.

[xxthedrizzlexx]

motor and gears ? 

[xxthedrizzlexx]

where did you get the dsg ??

[airsofterzz]

what spring u runnin?

[dtabuena]

@airsofterzz SP170 no spacer

[spazzoid22]

Thumbs up if you turned your head sideways to watch :D

[Maekiii]

This video gives me a boner.

[dtabuena]

@Maekiii i suppose thats cool aslong as you're not touching it...

[Maekiii]

@dtabuena :D More vids pls !

[ksek09]

wow lovely. is that siegetek's DSG?

[Mikeandwendy74]

wow fantastic, any failures on the internals yet? I want to grab a dual sector and slap it in my v3 minigun gearbox. Just curious whats gonna break first so I can purchase extrasso I wont have too much downtime, and did you short stroke the piston?

[dtabuena]

@Mikeandwendy74 Actually im at +10k rounds so far and the only thing that has failed was my firefly hop bucking which tore one of the fins b/c rof. I haven't short stroked the piston any more than the original 8 on the dsg. Im expecting the piston to fail eventually so i bought 3 when i ordered them. They're cheap any way as i mentiioned

[sniperjesus]

Awesome, controlled bursts sound very nice! Dannys gears are fantastic. What piston are you running with that?

[dtabuena]

@sniperjesus SHS 15 tooth piston from ehobbyasia. Not even close to failing; best $8.50 i ever spent on airsoft

[airsofterzz]

beautiful man. just beautiful