Assalamo Alikum,We Ahle sunnah 100% Agree on this that Syedna Ali (RA) and his family is included in Ahle Bait. The Word Ahle Bait is properly for Prophets (PBUH) Wives and for all those,to whom Beloved prophet (PBUH) included in this list ,as Sydna Bilal (RA).Regarding The Sourh Ahzab Ayet # 33 Please note that this Sourah is Makki Sourah and Syedna Ali (RA) Married to Syeda Fatima (RA) in Madina. The Shia scholers dont have right to take out Prophet(PBUH) wives from Ahle bait list. Thanks
if the sunni bros will do proper research themselves abt the sahaba's they will realise there are some who were really great and others who were really rich and corrupt!!!yes some changed as soon as the prophet p.b.u.h passed away which is inhuman!
read abt haroon al rashid,the rightly guided in wikipedia,all his life was full of wine,women, riches,poetry telling and the list goes on...is this the rightly guided on whom alaf layla was made??wat kind of rightly guided example he was??
@suzannechristos brother, I have read Tirmidi, and please learn the rule of debate first, when books like Shahih Bhuhari and Shaih Muslim have different story narrated to Tirimidi we take them in order, anyway regarding who is from family of Prophet Mohammed swas, then the wives are included, please dont just read Surah 33:33 also read verses that are before it to get the whole understand, we Ahle Sunnah dont just pick and match, read all and understand all. So many greatets alima have said same
@suzannechristos and brother please go and do your re-search, if you call a person SAHABA then go and search the definition of a SAHABA, what criteria one must be to be a SAHABI of Rasool swas. Haroon Al Rashid?? who cares about him, we are talking about people who have written with great regards to SAHABA in 2nd century or infact the Ahlul bayt praises of Sahaba.. we dont need people like Haroon Rashid to give us Sahaba status.. Ali rda prayed behind caliphas that is enough for Muslims!!HAQ ALI
SHIAS NEVER ACCEPT ANY SON OF HASAN AS INFALLIBLE IMAM. HASAN HAS A LOT OF SONS BUT NONE OF HIS SON IS INFALLIBLE IMAM, WHY? WERE THEY NOT PIOUS? WERE THEY NOT FROM AHLE BAIT? SHIAS SAY THAT ALLAH APPOINTS INFALLIBLE IMAMS. WHERE ALLAH HAS SAID THAT NO SON OF HASAN IS ELIGIBLE FOR INFALLIBLE IMAMAT?
WHY SHIAS DONT DO MATAM FOR HAMZA? DONT SHIAS LOVE HAMZA? AFTERALL HAMZA WAS ALSO KILLED BY WAHSHU, SLAVE OF HINDA.
We read in al-Jazairi’s book Anwar al Numaniya , vol. 1, p. 60
“Indeed Imams are his (Abu Bakr’s) descendants because Jafar Sadiq’s mother Umm Farwa was daughter of Qasim bin Muhammad bin Abu Bakr”
Jafar Sadiq said “Abu Bakr gave me birth twice”
Ummadut talib p. 195, Kashaful Ghumma, vol. 2, p. 373
Hasan, the elder son of Ali, married Hafsa bint Abur Rahman, the grand daughter of Abu Bakr, hence Hasan was the son in law of Abu Bakr’s son, Abdur Rahman
9:100 And the foremost, the first of the Emigrants (Mohajirs)and the Helpers (Ansars),and those who followed them in goodness Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him,and He has prepared for them Gardens wherein flow rivers,abiding therein for ever.That is the mighty achievement.SHIANE IBLEES CURSE SAHABAS WHEREAS ALLAH IS PLEASED WITH THEM. ALI HAS KEPT HIS SONS NAMES AS ABU BAKR,UMAR AND USMAN AND HAS CLEARLY SHOWN THAT HE HAS NO LINK WITH SHIANE IBLEES.
Allah was well pleased with the believers when they swore allegiance unto thee beneath the tree, and He knew what was in their hearts, and He sent down peace of reassurance on them, and hath rewarded them with a near victory;}
JANGE HOD SE BHAGE HIUE AJ MILE HO SARI SIP SHAHBA JAB JANGE HOD SE BHAGI TO KIS NE MADAD KI MOLA ALI KI TALWAR KE SADKE MA MILNE WALE MALE GHANMAT PAR BADE HONE WALE AJ TUM HAM PER HAI BHOK RAHI HAO
This is an open challenge for the Shia to give Quranic verses which outline and justify the Shia concept of Imamah. Can the Shia produce even a single verse outlining Imamah, without any additions to the translation, without parenthetical insertions to the translation, without Hadith to “support” their interpretation, without Tafseer, and without their own personal commentaries leading us from verse to verse?
For those who thinks of Shia separate themselves from others then u will have to read your own books sahih al bukhari. What Omar himself sAid that prophet Mohammad (sa)and Ali (as) knew and said Omar was not capable oh being khalifa.he was also behind bibi Fatima the prophets daughter and hazrat Ali (as) wife. How come you ppl lie yo every one.
Few Shia actually realize that the term shia is used in the Quran in multiple places, and almost every single time in a negative light.
and be not amongst those who join gods with Allah, those who split up their Religion, and become shias (sects) - each party rejoicing in that which is with itself. (Quran, 30:31-32)
Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into shias (sects) for he was indeed a maker of mischief. (Quran, 28:4)
@lubna- brother with all respect, why do you choose which Sahaba you will love? Why have you missed ABu Baakr rda? Umar usman rda? as they were the first 3 claiphas of Islam? you want to know what relation Sahabas had, well first example, Hazrat Ali rda married his sister in law to hazrat Abu Bakar rda when his bother was martyred. Secondly Hazrat Ali rda married his daughter to Umar rda, thirdly Hazrat usman rda was married to 2 daughters of Rasool swas, please learn the family tree of Ahlulbyt
wshanny - if you really follow Ahle bait then follow there way and love the Sahabas... just liek Hazrat Ali rda did, just like Hazrat Hassan and Hazrat Hussain rda has relationship with the Sahaba....
this is a common shia propaganda that they left Sunnis because love of Ahle Bait..
To be a TRUE Sunni you have to LOVE AhleBait as they are our spritual leaders and love Sahabas as they are also our leaders... most of the SUFI TARIQAAT of Sunnis link back to Ahle Bait...
@jasimisbest2 With all due respect what relations did the entire panjitan have with the sahaba and who specifically were the sahaba's. yes we love sahabas...we love Bilal (RA) we love Abu Zar (RA)...We love Miqdad (RA)...We love Salman e Farsi(RA)...we love Ammar e Yasir (RA) and we have a list who says we dont love sahabas ???
یزید اور ابن زیاد اور انہی کے مثل دوسرے لوگوں پر لعنت کرنا جائز ہے کیونکہ بعض علماء کرام نے ان دونوں پر لعنت کرنا جائز قرار دیا ہے بلکہ احمد بن حنبل یزید کے کفر کے قائل ہیں
شرح شفاء //مُُلا علی قاری // ج 2// ص 552//طبع الاولیٰ 1421ھ ، جز:2،دارُلکتب العلمیہ بیروت
یحییٰٰ بن عبد الملک بن ابی غنیہ جو ثقہ راویوں میں سے ایک ہیں، نے بیان کیا کہ ہم سے نوفل بن ابی عقرب نے جو ثقہ روای ہیں بیان کیا کہ میں حضرت عمربن عبد العزیز کے پاس موجود تھا کہ ایک شخص نے یزید بن معاویہ کا ذکر کیا اور کہا کہ امیرالمومنین یزید نے فرمایا ، تو حضرت عمر بن عبد العزیز نے فرمایا کہ تو یزید کو امیرالمومنین کہتا ہے? اور اس شخص کو بیس کوڑے مارنے کا حکم دیا
@Libra110pk , I AGREE WITH YOU. YAZID LAIN AND SHIAS OF KUFA ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING OF HUSSAIN. SHIAS OF KUFA INVITED HUSSAIN , WROTE LETTERS TO HIM, ASSURED HIM OF THEIR SUPPORT AND THEN LEFT HUSSAIN ALONE, DECEIVE HIM AND RAN AWAY. SANAN WHO CRITICALLY INJURED HUSSAIN WAS A PERSIAN SHIA, SHIMR WHO CUT HEAD OF HUSSAIN WAS A SHIA AND REAL PARENTAL NEPHEW OF UMUL BANIN, WIFE OF ALI. THIS IS ALL DRAMA OF SHIAS TO DO AZADARI OTHERWISE WHERE THEIR AZADARI DISAPPEAR FOR 10 IMAMS AND HAMZA?
@razanice - Hazrat Usman rda did not give FADAK land to Marwan laanti, however your concern as a shia should be with Hazrat Ali rda, did he give the land to anyone? or did any ahlul bait Imam (as) give the land to there family??/ NO THEY DIDNT!!!!!!!! Hazrat Ali rda follow same as Abu baakr rda, Umar rda and Usman rda... then who are you to question the blessed people after 1400 years!!! go and read ur own Hadeeth books and see how Prophets dont inherit properties! Dont waste my time!
@razanice- i can only laugh at ur comment that Sahih Bhukhari is full of fabrication, while your shia schlors have confirmed themselves that 65% of Shia hadeeetsh are either fabricated or zaeef, and the shaih shia hadeeths are mostly found in various SUnni hadeeth book, by the way Sunnis dont just have 6 hadeeth books we have over 20 different collection but the earliest one are the first 6. Please go and do some search before posting.
it is shameful for shia to attack Bhukahri or any sunni books, Sunni books ar eknown be have authetic hadeeth where Shia books till today are forged with fabricated event, even the shia schlros themselves have declared there own boks to eb 65% zaeef, most of the hadeetsh that are found in shai book to be true and found in Sunni books !! please study histtory and then post your comments here, dont give us emotional and half told event that are fully biased and twisted!
narrated by Ali which states that the Prophet made muta'a haram on the day of Khaiber (Book of Tahdeeb: vol. 7, pg. 251, rewaya 10). The author states that Ali lied for the purposes of safety (taqiya). In Book of Istebsar: vol. 3, pg. 142, rewaya 5, there is a declaration by Ali that muta'a is haram. Again they accuse Ali of lying for safety reasons (taqiya).
@jasimisbest2 haqiqat bata di to bura laggaya.suni books kaysay sahi ho sakti hay abubakar aur omer nay to sari hadis ke kitab jaladi the.yeh sari hadis mavia kay zamanay may ghari gai the.rahi humari kitabon ke bat to hum wo he hadis ko sahi mantay hayn jo rasool ki hadis aur quran kay mutabiq ho har ghari hui hadis ko sahi nahi mantay.hum log aqal rakhtay hayn ghaday nahi hayn
@raza2nice meray bahi, i can gurantee you what you have just wrote is 100% false, alhumdullilah Sunni hadeeth books are majoirty authetic, where Shia book such as Usole Kafi are even confirmed by Shia schlor to 60%+ zaeef or fabricated. Brother please do your research, even do your research on hazrat Abu bakar rda and Omar rda brunign hadeeth books, i can assure you, your search will come back with no result as it is false and unreliable stories from liars that hate the calipha's
@sohshia - forget all what you ahve said, JUST please give me referecen for what you said that Umar rda beat Abu Hurarira with KORA!!! just give me one reference and true reference from Bhukhari..... I will expose your lies.... what you have spoken is filth and all emotional lies that your mullas have filtered your head with... please dont try to teach me history ALhumdullilah i am ghulam of Ahlul Bait and know my hsitroy very well, i study under schlor not liars like your ayatollahs!
@asfar.herat hey pehle tu ap lo bohat zada zaban kholte ho jub hum loq quran or sunat sey jawab dete hain tu nhi bolte k yes u r rite.khisyani bili ki tarah hote ho.or phir kisi doosre net pe wohi sawal repeat kerte ho.shame on u.reply if u hve courage.
@jesimisbest2.tum log kehte ho abu hurera ne nabi ka jhoota doodh pi liya tu bass dimag computer hogya..socho jo ali hasan ,husain,fatima nabi ki zaban choos choos k jawan hoe,wo kiya ho gey.dekho bukhari umer ney abu hurera ko koro sey mara k tu nabi pe jhoot bandta heytu bohat ravayatain bayan kerta hey.ya tu umer jhoote they ya hurera.manlo
@jesimisbest2.tum log kehte ho abu hurera ne nabi ka jhoota doodh pi liya tu bass dimag computer hogya..socho jo ali hasan ,husain,fatima nabi ki zaban choos choos k jawan hoe,wo kiya ho gey.dekho bukhari umer ney abu hurera ko koro sey mara k tu nabi pe jhoot bandta heytu bohat ravayatain bayan kerta hey.ya tu umer jhoote they ya hurera.manlo
@jesimisbest2. I think abi tuk ap bukhari badmash or history parne mey masroof hain.first look k bukhari k ravi ko ko hain.kahi aisha apne bap ki or apni tarifo mey masroof hey.tu kahi abu bkr apni or apni beti ki.kahi umer kahi usman kahi bilion ka bap.jo 2sal b nhi ki sohbat mey nhi raha or 5000 hadisain likh dali.dekhao ehle bait ,bibi khatija,bibi ume salma ki rivayat..shame on u.
@jesimisbest2..bukhari khud apne abu ka qaul pare...abu bkr ne farmaya.uhad mey hum rasool{saww} ko chor k aise bhag rahe thee jese pahar per pahari bakrian koodti hain....ab ya tu mane bukhari jhoot hey ya rivayat ko nikal dey.mr gawah.bukhari gor sey parna.shame on u.
@jesimisbest2..bukhari khud apne abu ka qaul pare...abu bkr ne farmaya.uhad mey hum rasool{saww} ko chor k aise bhag rahe thee jese pahar per pahari bakrian koodti hain....ab ya tu mane bukhari jhoot hey ya rivayat ko nikal dey.mr gawah.bukhari gor sey parna.shame on u.
@jesimisbest2.dear hostory parne ki ap bohat zaroorat hey.ager pari hoti tu jahil nhi bante.mola ali n mola hasan k dor mey fidak inhe ki custody mey tha.bt phir ap ka dada muaviya aya n he snached again.no2 q..dear ager mujrim khud apna jurm maan le tu gawah rud hojata hey..chale ap ki sub sey sahi kitab ka bab uhad parte hain.nxt coment.
@jesimisbest2.dear hostory parne ki ap bohat zaroorat hey.ager pari hoti tu jahil nhi bante.mola ali n mola hasan k dor mey fidak inhe ki custody mey tha.bt phir ap ka dada muaviya aya n he snached again.no2 q..dear ager mujrim khud apna jurm maan le tu gawah rud hojata hey..chale ap ki sub sey sahi kitab ka bab uhad parte hain.nxt coment.
@asfar000.nonmuslim ka joota ap logo k mounh pe.woh kehte hain k hum tu apne nabi ki beti k sath aisa salook ka soch b nhi sakte.woh ager humari jan b mangti tu dete.ye kese musalman the jo apne nabi ki beti ko takleef dete rahe.theek hey woh bari property na sahi 4 trees hi hote.muger jis ka huq tha ous ko dena chhye tha.na k kabza kerte.ab socho greedy kon tha. Shame shame.
@asfar000.nonmuslim ka joota ap logo k mounh pe.woh kehte hain k hum tu apne nabi ki beti k sath aisa salook ka soch b nhi sakte.woh ager humari jan b mangti tu dete.ye kese musalman the jo apne nabi ki beti ko takleef dete rahe.theek hey woh bari property na sahi 4 trees hi hote.muger jis ka huq tha ous ko dena chhye tha.na k kabza kerte.ab socho greedy kon tha. Shame shame.
@asfar000.wese ye ap hi ka di gurda hey jo masooma bibi k liye ya alfaz use ker sakte hain mashallah ap logo sey aise cments ki umeed hoti hey.abu bkr umer ko bachane k liye tu ap log kisi b hud tuk gir sakte hain.pehli bar soona k apna huq mangne wala greedy hta hey. qubza krne wala nhi..loll.shame on u.shia tumhare khalifao ka asl chehra dekhate hain duniya ko k nabi k bad oun k yaro ney kiya gul khilae.
@asfar000.wese ye ap hi ka di gurda hey jo masooma bibi k liye ya alfaz use ker sakte hain mashallah ap logo sey aise cments ki umeed hoti hey.abu bkr umer ko bachane k liye tu ap log kisi b hud tuk gir sakte hain.pehli bar soona k apna huq mangne wala greedy hta hey. qubza krne wala nhi..loll.shame on u.shia tumhare khalifao ka asl chehra dekhate hain duniya ko k nabi k bad oun k yaro ney kiya gul khilae.
@asfar000.lol.lanat ap ki soch or shia pe ilam ki.ap ke walid ki property ager cheen ley tu ap ya ap ki family bilkul nhi wapis mangna.cz log ap ko b greedy bole gey.lolllllll nhi mere bhai koi aqalmand nhi kahe ga k bibi pak jo iz rohe quran masooma,sadiqa hain wo greedy{nauzubila}ho gi.mently shetan hain ap log.hum logo ko btana chate hain k huq mangne wala greedy hey ya cheene wala.apni aql pey matam karo
@asfar000.lol.lanat ap ki soch or shia pe ilam ki.ap ke walid ki property ager cheen ley tu ap ya ap ki family bilkul nhi wapis mangna.cz log ap ko b greedy bole gey.lolllllll nhi mere bhai koi aqalmand nhi kahe ga k bibi pak jo iz rohe quran masooma,sadiqa hain wo greedy{nauzubila}ho gi.mently shetan hain ap log.hum logo ko btana chate hain k huq mangne wala greedy hey ya cheene wala.apni aql pey matam karo
@jamesrammstein.lol.ye tu ap ki agl hey mr.first listen ds debate.i tell u hve no knwlage abt islam.fidaq 3km bara bag tha jo nabi pak ney apni beti ko diya.ager 3 trees b hote jub nabi ki beti ney apni property mangi tu oun ko deni chahye thi.ager woh abu bkr k bap ki hoti tu u cn say k greed hey.pehle ye tu jan lo greedy kehte kisi hain.is sey sabit hoa k abu bkr greedy kitne thee jis ney doosre ki property pey huq jataya.shame on u.
@jamesrammstein.lol.ye tu ap ki agl hey mr.first listen ds debate.i tell u hve no knwlage abt islam.fidaq 3km bara bag tha jo nabi pak ney apni beti ko diya.ager 3 trees b hote jub nabi ki beti ney apni property mangi tu oun ko deni chahye thi.ager woh abu bkr k bap ki hoti tu u cn say k greed hey.pehle ye tu jan lo greedy kehte kisi hain.is sey sabit hoa k abu bkr greedy kitne thee jis ney doosre ki property pey huq jataya.shame on u.
motherfucker shias has only one thing to repeat, what we will do if Ali and his family were only Ahle bait, Allah will ask these bastard shia only 3 question, who should be first Kalifa, who is ahle bait, who was Ali.
The question remains: why is there no verse in the Quran about the institution of the twelve Infallible Imams? We find Shia literature replete with references to the Imams. Indeed, the Shia have elevated the status of the Imam to monumental proportions, exhorting him as a creature that possesses more knowledge than the angels, prophets, and creation. Then how come the Quran just doesn’t say it?
@kayhan - you stupid illterate idiot go and get osme education, go and learn the Ali rda is the same Ali rda who done bayah with Abu Bakar rda, he is the same Ali rda who married his brother wife after his death to Abu bakar rda, he is the smae Ali rda who named his children Abu Baakr, umar and Usman! you dont know anything you shia;s are emotional shit speakers thats all! go and fool the ones who have no knowledge!
@imabe - lol you idiot, who is this sunni alim??/ you live in pakistan you must know there are so many sunni alims out there but who the hell is this guy??/ why bring someone that no one is heard one lol... yaar deen ka mazaaak mut banao grow up you idiot... learn islam and see the histroy for the truth... ALLAH and His Nabi paak swas were not fools like you shia;s have made them! Islam Zindabaad
sahnishah- ABu Bakar and Umar rda did not run away from the battles why are you lieing for?? read histroy books to get the fact. Also Khaybur was given to Mohammed swas as gift and that was for the Ummah, PROPHETs of ALLAH dont have prosnal assets.. also if ABu Bakar rda took this and shared the wealth for Ummah what is wrong? also why didnt Mola Ali rda reutrn it back when he was the leader why did HAssan or Hussain rda take it back when they had chance why did they follow Abu Bakar? think!!!
@jasimisbest2 You ready the history books! Stop being brainwashed. Abu Bakr tried to convince the Prophet (pbuh) to leave to Medina without Ali (as) who was willing to sacrifice his life for the safety of the Prophet (pbuh). Sunnis is the religion of Shaitan.
@jasimisbest2 i am really surprised how illetrate u people are.quran says prophet have personal asset.ok if the land was for ummah why did usman gave it to marwan his relative
nabi pak got fidak propertly in batel of khaiber.n mind it the hero of khaiber ws mola ali as.umer n abu baker ran away frm frm ds batel..so they had no rites on dis property..god gifted it 2 nabi pak.n nabi pak gave it 2 janabe syeda...mer jao sher sey nabi ki beti k bjae abu bker or umer ki wikalat kerte ho.sham on u.
shame on u who says thm fake.as u cn c they hve strong hadis.dis is old habbit of sinni they make a noise n fight when they think they r looser.always debate through ilm n aql..n abu baker hs accepted his zulm .n bibi pak said i ill do bud_dua 4 abu baker n umer ,till im alive.
@sohnishah you are not abusing sunnis you are abusing Fatima RA you shia says that Fatima was so greedy that she start a muslim only because Abu bakr RA didnot gave samll property. Even 3class Muslim will not do that,
@sohnishah you are not abusing sunnis you are abusing Fatima RA you shia says that Fatima was so greedy that she start a muslim only because Abu bakr RA didnot gave samll property. Even 3rd class Muslim will not do that,
@sohnishah you are not abusing sunnis you are abusing Fatima RA you shia says that Fatima was so greedy that she start a muslim only because Abu bakr RA didnot gave small property. Even 3rd class Muslim will not do that,
pakistan4life. you are correct the shia;s have habit of sinign emotional poesm to misguide these people i couldnt agree more with you... now regarding fadak issue just listen to some real schlors not these fake pundits above, listen to thia rul Qadri who also shia love and see how he exposed the lies of Fadak... ahle sunnah is haq and ahle sunnah is Ahlul Bait!!!!! YA ALI MADAD
@jasimisbest2 ABEY DEKHO TO SAHI POEM KON PARH RAHA HAI SHIA YA SUNI PEHLE YE TO DEKH LENA THA HAHAHHAHAHAHHA AISE HI REMARKS DE RAHE HO JAN ALI KAZMI NE QURAN AUR HADEES SE BAAT KI AUR SUNI ALIM NE EK QITA YAD A RAHA HAI KAHA HAI HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
to all the jahil shia's if Hazrta Ali rda was selected by Mohammed sws and the words are from ALLAH, then there is no power in the world that could havr taken the rights of Hazrta Ali rda... Hazrta Ali rda read his prayers behind all the claiphas, his children were named abu bakar, usman and umar. Ali rda married his sister in law after his brother died to Abu Bakar rda.... Shia why are you hiding reality? go and watch Tahir ul Qadri lecture he has explained all very well and refuted ur claims!
Molana sab khoda apka saya hamaray saroon per qaim rakhay. or apko doshmanan.e.Islam or doshmanan.e.Ahlibait ki shar say mahfooz rakhay. Ameen suma Ameen..
why ALi RA was so anxious to become Kalifa, we know what he done for Islam when he became Kalifa, nothing. He has no contribution in Islam if we compare with the contribution of Abu Bakr and Omar RA
@asfar000 brother Asfar, Hazrat Ali rda was one of the greatets person in Islam please dont use abuse agaisnt Ali rda, Ali is HAQ and HAQ is Ali, we are not Shia that we will hate Sahaba for love of Ahlul Bait and we are not Wahabis to Hate Ahlul abyt for love of Sahaba,,, we are AHLUL SUNNAH WAL JAMAH we love and respect Ahlul abit and Sahabas .... And we dont points fingers at what KHALIFAS done... please heed to my advise. Wasalam
@asfar000 Hazrat Ali (a.s) was nominated (Moula) by the Prophet Muhammad pbuh in other words by the God at the place of Ghadeer when Prophet was comming back after perform Hajj.. So Ali (a.s) was not anxious to become Khalifa like Abubkar and Omer Lanti... Hazrat Ali (a.s) was already Imam (Moula) while abubakr and omer was greedy for this post>>>if you see thier election Abubkar nominted by small group of people and omer nominted by first lanti and second lanti made shura (sahme on you)
sokeers- if Fadak was snacthed of Fatima rda, then what did Hazrat Ali rda do and his sons??? Ali rda became a Calipha and he didnt change the verdict, r u saying that Hazrat Ali rda supported the wrong.... the problem with you shia;s is you follow hate and self made beleifs... we follow our leaders stcik to there decision, Hazrat Ali rda action of not changing anyting of FADAK is enough for any Muslim to stay quite on the issue... now who are you following?
sokeers- if Fadak was snacthed of Fatima rda, then what did Hazrat Ali rda do and his sons??? Ali rda became a Calipha and he didnt change the verdict, r u saying that Hazrat Ali rda supported the wrong.... the problem with you shia;s is you follow hate and self made beleifs... we follow our leaders stcik to there decision, Hazrat Ali rda action of not changing anyting of FADAK is enough for any Muslim to stay quite on the issue... now who are you following?
Fadaq was taken from Fatima AS and the same way she will take heaven away from them...when the sunni does not knw wht to say he recites a shayari... this is all they do they r best at changing TOPIC and baffling people and making innocent people believe in wrong. they give tableeq to those who r jahils but are no match against the learned. May Allah bless the true followers of Islam.
sheerali, YES please get me a FATWA to say that QURAN Tehreef is KUFFAR!!! get it from QOM or any Shia authority.... I will wait and see what you bring!!!!
SHIA CAN BARK all they want!! they are just liars!! if shia are truthful about there beliefs!! then bring US ONE fatwa from your Shaytanullahs which states thats Qurna Tehreef is KUFFAR!!! shia do not believe in full Quran !! this is challeneg to all Shia to bring one fatwa of Kuffar for Quran Tehreef beliver!! just one!!! this is challeneg!!! forget everyhting else as QURAN is book of ALLAH!! lets talk about BELIEF IN QURAN
Fatimah (AS) , Knew that she had short time to live , she was not after the property , ONLY that she was trying to SHOW the Muslims ,who there KHALIFA would be. YES , if a so called Amir al Mouminin , takes the right from the DAUGHTER of Rasulallah(SAWA) , THINK what he may do to you ??
AKCP - shia is turth??? well if it is truth I challeneg you to bring me ONE FATWA form your ALims AYATOLLAHS to say that QURNA TEHREEF is KUFR< just bring me ONE FATWA from your shia;s IRAN to say anyone believeing Quran is not compelte or is added is KAFFIR!!! just bring one FATWA as QURAN is protected by ALLAH and anyone denying that is KAFFIR... now lets see how truthful you are!! i wait for you to bring me the fatwa!
Also Zubair bin Awam cousin of Ali rda says the following: we came to conclusion that Abu bakar rda was most entitled to Khailfat. He was the companion of the CAVE and the second of the two. We also knew his age and we were familiar with that fact that Prophet Mohammed swas in his life time ordered him to lead the prayer
(ibn abi al hadid al shi, sharh Nehjul Balagh, Vol 1, P332)
it is in shia book Usole Kafi narrated by Imam Jafar rda " it is wajib for the Imam e haq, to raise his sword agaisnt nay flase imam", Hazrta Ali rda never raised sword agaisnt ABu bakar rda or any other claipha's instead he worked with them and helped them make decisions, Ali rda is ASADULLAH, if he was told by nabi Paak swas that he is the Claipha then no way would Ali rda let this go, he would fight like he did in Khaybar and take what is RIGHT!! thats why ALI is HAQ and HAQ is ALI,!!!!
Do you know why it was said "whoever hurts Fatima rda has hurt me and Allah" search the history from Shia books we can prove that Ali rda upset Fatima rda and these words were said!!, also when Rasool swas " Ali is Mowla to whom I am mowla" this was said because some people disgreed with Ali rda on YEMEN war so prophet said this to tell them the importance of Ali rda. if this was for leadership then why did Nabi Paak swas ask Abu Bakar rda to lead prayer when Ali rda was there?!!
@jasimisbest2 PROPHET NEVER ASKED ABUBAKAR TO LEAD PRAYERS.HUZOOR NAY JAISH E USAMA MAY ABUBAKAR AUR USMAN KO JANAY KAHA THA.USAMA KO LASHKAR KA SARDAR BANAYA THA.JO LASHKAR KA SARDAR HOTA HAY WOH HE IMAM HOTA HAY IS HISAB SA USAMA KO KHALIFA HONA CHAYA THA
@raza2nice again, it is a fact confirmed by even in Shia books such as Bihar un Anwar, Haqul yaqeen that Abu Bakar rda was requested to lead prayers and that Abu Bakar rda led prayer 8 times, this has also been discusse don Shia channels that this even is true, and now today you come and say it is not true, and Usama should be calipha because he led a war... brotehr i again request you to not post without knowledge, as the stories agaisnt Calipas mostly hold no values as HAQ is HAQ!!! ALI ALI
@raza2nice meray bahi, please jsut do honest research, REad QURAN and the status of Sahabas in Quran, and refer to Authetic hadeetsh and not histroy books.. INSHALLAH may ALLAH guide you ameen
@jasimisbest2 plz u read ...he is not talking history...he is talking from quran surah ahzab 33:33,if u understand tirmeedhi is also a sunni scholar and clearly stated that it is true,plus umm salamah asking here that am i one of them,as she is prophets wife,he says no u r my wife but these are my ahl al bayt...open your eyes brother!!! can someone be so blind?prophets famous hadith..i leave behind two things QURAN and AHL AL BAYT!the sunni scholar is quoting poetry as reply????funny really
@suzannechristos first of all brother, this debate is no debate its a shame ploy!!! Sunni Schlors first dont keep the beard this guy has as it is not the sunnah? secondly who is this sunni schlor that no one seesm to know!!!! the Sunni argument about the Family fo Prophet Mohammed swas is very strong proven fromt he Quran and Hadeeth itself. The shia's even have habit of selecting the Ahlul Bayt and rejecting Imams like Imam Zaid rda, Imam yahya rda and Imam Ismail rda who were all ahle bait!
@suzannechristos fthe famous hadeeth you are talking about has been transmitted through many chains, the 6 Sunni hadeeth books and many other Sunni hadeeth books backt he one that says QURAN & SUNNAH, and the most important aspect my broter is that Mowla Ali rda himself read prayer behind claipha's and helped them in there troubles.That is enough for me as a Muslim to believe in Caliphas.Also Hazrat Ali rda also married his brother wife to Hazrat Abu bakar rda after death of his brother SEARCH!
PRECISELY,HAZRAT MOLA ALI A.S CANT LET HIS RELATIONS DETERIORATE WITH CALIPHS WHICH WOULD MEAN BLOOD SHED AMONG THE MUSLIMS OR MORE SPECIFICALLY MOLA'S FOLLOWERS AND THE CALIPHS!!!!!!!! AND AS A MATTER OF FACT HE HELPED THEM BECAUSE THEIR PROBLEMS WERE THE STATE'S PROBLEM AND SUCH A GREAT MAN CANT LEFT THE UMMAH ALONE WHO'S IMPORTANCE AND GREAT CHARACTER WAS AND IS HIGHLIGHTED AND KNOWN BY EVERYONE! DUE TO LIMITED TIME I CANT ENTER IN TO THIS DEBATE NOW,I WISH MAY ALLAH SHOW US ALL THE RI8 PATH!
@ThePanjtani1 JAZAKALLAH for your reply, if Hazrat Ali rda being a LION of ALLAH and having the lakub of ASAD ULLAH could help the claipha's because he didnt want bloodshed etc what are you shia's after 1400 years doing? are you going agaisnt your Imam?? os would it be correc to say the real folowers of Ali rda are Ahle sunnah wal Jamah who have respect Ali rda and clauphas and maintianed Islam as Hazrat Ali rda (even though we dont believe ur version is true)... please do re-search????
Salam, first of all Fadak issue is solved by Imam Ali rda himself where he supported the decision of ABu bakar rda and the 11 imams did not say anything about Fadak so we Sunnis support the decision and if imams stayed quite so stay quite. egarding Ghadeer, please search the whole even of Ghadeer, no way does Ghadeer give leaderhsip to Ali rda, if that was the case then why didnt Ali rda fight and if this was ALLAH wills then how come it never fulfilled!!!
ali - Muwawiya rda was a Sahabi, hazrat hassan rda done Sulha with him, Ali rda called him brother, yes they fought but that doesnt mean one becomes bad, yes he was wrong in his decision, but we have no right to abuse or say bad about him because the Ahle bait never did, what are you going to dsicuss about fadak??? your shia stance on fadak is useless and meaningless, but anyway feel free to post your issue on fadak but only one post at a time so we can answer and understand
My brother you are a person that i want to talk to (=, may allah bless you. You see the issue about fadak is important in a way. The profhet says 'who ever hurts fatima rda, hurts me. Imam ali granted the land of fadak to his wife, not abu bakr rda.
Regarding FADAK, the shia;s are always discussing this, but please find us one proof from 12 shia Imams that they ever disgareed regarding FADAK, show us one proof where HAssan and Hussain rda complained about Fadak, show us one proof where ALi rda fought for Fadak, if the AHlul abit respected ABu BAkar rda decision we as Muslims shoudl respect that to, Ali rda didnt agree with Muwawiya rda and fought him to show who is HAQ, why couldnt ALi rda fight Abu Bakar rda to claim haq of FADAK!!!
first thing make up your mind either muwawiya was good or bad......since u r sayin that ali(a.s) fought him for haq and on the other side u r putting rda with his name......decide first if u r gonna go with rda with his name then we will discuss abt Fadak.....
rnaldi - very clever, YES Sunni books have gahdeer hadeeth, but we dont use it to claim Claiphate for ALi rda, we use it to show the status of ALi rda and his Waliyat as Wali, you tell e how can there be TWO MASTERS are same time??? when we have PRophet , why do we need MASTER?? brother read the event of GHADEER and see why Nabi Paak swas said ALI IS MOLA TO WHOM I AM MOLa, just like Why Nabi Swas said WHOEVER HURTS FATIMA HURT ME AND ALLAH""" there is logic behind this,. not shia illogical
May allah bless you for brining up the hadith of ghadeer. the profhet said that AFTER ME ALI Will be the mawla, u see if you go to ur college and ask an arabic professor, he will tell u the exact meaning of MAWLA, some people say mawla just means friend, or a brother, which doesnt make sense, the profhet would not stop hudnreds of people in a hot day, just to tell everyone that ali is his friend?, everyone allready knew ali was the profhets best friend.
brother, The profhet said, '' i will leave behind me the quran, and my family. ??? he didnt mean he will be the master now.., he said after i die, Ali will be the master, mawla, thats why we say YA MAWAL ALI YA MAWLA ali. Some people say we are worshiping when we say ALI MOWLA. If its like that, then everyone prays towards imam ali;s house.. Imam ali was the only person who was born in the house of god?. we pray towards GODS house as well as ali's home (=
Why are u guys debating about the land of fadak, or what happend after the profhet died. LETS talk about during the time when the profhet was alive. If you believe in the event of ghadeer then u accept imam ali as the FIRST islamic leader after the profhets death. MAy allah bless you jasimsbest2. I love brothers like you, who actually have information about the ahlelbait and the companion of the profhets. It makes me cry, because how brutally the grandson of the profhet was killed. )==
Some of the sunni brothers say why we do matam or spend days to mourn for the GRANDSON of the holy profhet. You must be kidding me right. FOLLOW THE SUNNAH BROTHERS, respect the family of the profhet, AHLAHBAIT, may allah bless all my borthers/sisters
Sahih bukari, muslim, it clearly states the day of ghadeerol kom, where the profhet stoped hudreds of people to declare imam ali the islamic leader after me. MAWLA means leader, master my brother, go ask a proffesor in the arab language and he/she will tell you the excact definition. This hadith is not even a shia source its from your books, in which you guys still deny. MASLAM may allah bless all my bothers.
TO all my brothers, Why are we debating about the land of fadak. Who cares only allah can judge in what happend. Imam Ali was the 4 political caliph but the first ISLAMIC LEADER, learn the difference. When the profhet died, Imam ali was the only person washing his body, while abu Bakr rda was deabting of who the next leader would be. Imam ali the only person to sleep in the profhets bed, ready to be killed so the profhet could live, WHY DO YOU GUYS deny this fact. MAY allah bless all my borthers
IF FADAK was taken away from Fatima rda, and Hazrta Abu bakar rda became a GUNAGHAR, then what about Hazrat Ali rda who even in his time never returned fadak? what about the next 12 imams, what about Hassan and Hussain rda who never fought or even talked about FADAK... you see the history and the Imams support Sunni and the decision of Hazrat Abu Bakar rda, it is the SHia's who change history hence are called RAFIDI (rejectors, munkirs)
The Four Rightly Guided Caliphs were good friends and Sahabah (Companions) to each other. Indeed, Ali was the vizier and top aid of the Three Caliphs during their respective Caliphates
It is a historical fact that Ali named three of his own children as Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman.
This fact is recorded by the classical Shia scholar, Shaikh Mufid, in Kitab al-Irshad, pp. 268-269,
In fact, not only were they not enemies, but rather they were Sahabah (companions) and friends to each other, so much so that Ali honored them by naming his children after them.
BTW this ayat is for wives of prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Shia Mufasir Farman Ali says in his tarjuma that "Yee ayat yahan kee nahi balkay kisee khas gharz sai dakhil kee gai hai"
Unless and until Shia declare Quran as tempered their believes can not be proved. This is one example only.
Shame on Shia Alim. He is quoting munqatay rivayat. Rivayat is quoted by Ibn e Mardoya through Abu Saeed (RA). Ibne Mardoya was borned in 410 Hijra while Abu Saeed (RA) was Sahabi. How Ibne Mardoya could quote from Sahabi when he was born in 410 hijra.
I feel pity for shia alim. How week arguments he is giving.
Dear jasimisbest2 , u r asking very strange question. How Hazrat Ali (RA) could fight Hazrat Abu Bakr (RA) and Hazrat Umar (RA). They both were imams of Hazrat Ali (RA).
When Hazrat Ali (RA) became caliph he practiced the government in same way as caliphs before him did. Harzat Ali (RA).
Also, Hazrat Umar (RA) was son in law of Hazrat Ali (RA).
hahah Sunni Shia debate,,,,,, yaar why is it that every sunni shia debate we see, the Sunni schlor is always the one that no one knows about or he is not qualified,,,, stop this drama.... Baghe fadak I have one question please answer- Why did not Imam hassan or Hussain rda fight for there mothers land? Why did not Hazrta Ali rda fight for his wives haq? why did not any imam of Ahlul bayt speak bad of Abu bakar rda ? but only the fools shia speak but not Ahlul Bayt... SUNNI IS HAQ
Our prophet (PBUH) has taught us peace. when he went for hajj before sulah hudaibia.Makkans didn't allow him.why did he make peace with makkans? Hajj wasn't Haq of prophet (PBUH) at that time?The reason he made peace because he wanted to solve everything with peace.Now Listen one more thing.Ali(a,s),,Fatima (a.s) hassan(a,s) Hussain (a.s) are not hungry for land on earth.They are leaders of people of jannat...Fatima (a.s) just wanted to show that, the person who proved me wrong can't be right...
Subhanallah, what a excuse. BTW, when Ali (RA) became caliph he had power to give the fadak to children Hazrat Fatima (RA). For the sake of debate we agree that Ali (RA) did not fight for fadak because of peace but what stopped him to give fadak when he was himself caliph?
LOL..Faddak wasn't his property...It was a gift that prophet(PBUH) gave to his daughter...Yes Ali(a.s) should have give it to his sons but your grandfather Mauwiya didn't let Ali do anything...Right after he became caliph people start rebellion against him..and your grandfather was on top.?.YOU answer me one question....IF Faddak was not gift of fatima(a.s) then why she went to get it from Abu baker ? If it wasn't gift then then she was lying? because prophets doesn't leave inheritence..right?
And if she was lying for the sake of land..then thats means Prophet(PBUH) didn't teach her the right islam? right?.....By saying that it wasn't her property Abu baker proved that she was wrong...right? Now i will give u Fatwa...If she was wrong at that time..then None of you guys are right at this time because Its this daughter about whom Prophet(PBUH) said "If my own daughter would have steal anything i would have cut her hands"....
Zain606 i feel pity for ur poor answer. Giving fadak was not a big issue for khalifa. How Muavia (RA) stopped him from giving fadak. Being a khalifa it was a simple two line order to relevant government authority to give fadak to children of Hazrat Fatima(RA). By not doing so Hazrat Ali (RA) proved by his act that what Abu Bakr (Ra) did was right.
Ali did not use Taqiyyah to deny ownership of Fadak. He states, that as Fadak was under the authority of the state, based on the decrees of the former Caliph Abu Bakr, Fadak during 'Ali's Caliphate came under the authority of 'Ali himself, and his two deputies, Imam al-Hasan and Imam al-Husayn, his sons.
Zain606, do not distort history. If u don't have answer then accept it open heartedly. Fadak was estate property not personal property of Harzat Ali (RA), Harzat Hussain (RA) and Hazrat Hassan (RA). During Khilafat Hazrat Ali (RA) was administrator of it but not the owner. After his Khilafat the property remained with government.
If Ali (RA) had claim on it he should have transfered the ownership from estate to real owners. Contrary to this Ali (RA) did the same as other khulafa did.
Its this daughter about whom prophet(PBUH) said that she is part of my liver..Means fatima mere jiger ka tukra hai....So now if you are saying fatima wrong then You are saying prophet(PBUH) wrong because fatima(a.s) is part of prophet(PBUH).....Oyeee Kuch hayaaa karo....kuch sharm karo.....Yeh Khatoon-e-jannat hain....and her sons are masters(sardar) of people in jannat...Kuch sharam karo...Agar aisa hi believe raha tumhara then Mil gaye jannat tumhein....May God give u guys Hadaayet...
zain if the Prophet Mohammed done peace, and then Bibi Fatima rda was not hungry for land and wanted peace, then why is it that the shia of today time are barking like dogs? Hazrat Abu bakar rda was also not hungry for the land, there is no proof that he used the land for his perosnal use but he used for Ummah and also provided share to Ahlul bayt!! please state facts not theories made by shia ayatollahs to get people emotional. All the Imams agreed with Abu baakr rda actions! but not Shia;s
hahaha...yeahh right...what do u know about imams? hmmm? who is 9th imam ? tell me without even google it...I am sure u don't know their names how can u know that they agreed....Listen....I know abu baker did what he thought right....and Fatima(a.s) did what she thought right.....She for sure showed us one thing by making this decision that....She was proved wrong by prophet(PBUH) companions....thats all she showed...
we are not barking lol..we are defending whats right and Haq will remain Haq.
really, so you think i dont know the names of Imams, well let me tell you i dont just know the names of 12 imams I know the name of Imam Zaid, Imam Yahya, Imam Zakariya who were also from Ahlul bait but rejected by Shia's till recently. You are just monafiq, why talk bad of ABu Bakar rda when hazrat Ali rda also followed his decision and never took back fadak in his claiphate?? go and read your book Haq ul Yaqeen and read about the agreement of Fatima (as) and Abu bakar you lot are liars!
hahah those are not the imams i am talking about...i don't know which imam u brought in conversation......there are many books now...one book wrote by salman rushdi....he was muslim and wrote book about prophet(PBUH)...U gonna believe him too?...The thing is..U can't believe in every book and can't say its authentic and right....Who is liar and who is on right path...Let day of judgement decide it...its useless to argue on same issue i talked before with some other person on same video..bye
Zaib bro you just answered you own theory, YOU SHOULD NOT BELIEVE IN ALL THE BOOKS!!!!... go and search the history regarding FADAK, BIBI Fatima rda did not hold grudge agaisnt ABu bakar rda, If companions done wrong then also the Imams of Ahlul abit done wrong, Imam Ali rda never returned fadak to Ahlul abit, Imam Hassan never done it or any other imam.. it is only shia theory that ZULM was done to Fatima (as), read your own Usole Kafi regarding the inhertience of Prophet, they leave none
Since many sunnis here claim to be such lovers of Ahlul Bayt, what do you do to remember them? which mosque to do you go to to hear the tragedy of Karbala, when the Grandsons of the Prophet were martyred, because of muaviyah and yazeed? its? damn simple. You're either on the side of the prophet and his clan, or you're busy defending those who did such cruel injustice to them,like dropping the door on Fatima, she died at 18 yrs. also miscarried her baby, or even refused the Prophet's last wishes.
These Quranic verses, 6:159 and 6:65, apply to any school of thought whose followers think they are on right guidance but have no proof from the Quran and Sunnah.
They think that they have solid foundation but, upon scrutiny, its falsity can be demonstrated with clarity and conclusive evidence.
To provide a solid proof of this fact (i.e. that Shimr was a Shia), we refer to the esteemed and classical Shia scholar, Al-Qummi. Al-Qummi, author of the famous book Mafaatihul-Jinaan, writes in his book: I say, Shimr was in the forces of Ameer al-Mumineen on the Day of Siffin. (Al-Qummi, Safinatun-Najaat, vol.4, p. 492, Chapter Sheen Followed by Meem).
Shimr lain was not only shia but also real nephew of umul banin, wife of ali.
All Prophets had to recognize and accept the Wilayat of Ali (meaning that Ali is Wali of Allah) before they were appointed as prophets. (Tareekh-e-Shia, p. 18)
Imam Ali ( R.A. ) was the creation of angel Jibreel (Gabriel). (Al-Majalis Al-Fakhra, p. 128)
An Imam is born from his mother's thigh (not from his mother's womb). (Ahsan-ul-Muqaal, Vol. 1, p. 325)
The Imams are NOT born like ordinary human beings from their mothers' wombs. (Jila-ul-A'yoon, Vol 2, p.474)
if shia is wrong then why fatima s.a stop taiking with abo bakar after passed away of mohammad s.a.w until her dead or shahadat(reference sonni books tarikh tebrisi-) and why her crops was hidden from all muslim ummat....and ali a.s didnot permit abo bakar,umar & usman to pray namaz jinaza for fatima according of fatima s.a wassiyat...
@sabzafaren go and search your own books it is written in there that Fatima rda spoke to ABu Bakar rda and also read your own shia books and you will see that it wasAbu Bakar rda that read Bibi Fatima Janaza, if the corpse was hidden then how come abu bakar rda read janaza, this is from your books... you are just liars.
The Shia say that Imam must be appointed by God; that appointment may be known through the declaration of the Prophet or the preceding Imam. The
Sunni scholars say that Imam (or Caliph, as they prefer to say) can be either elected, or nominated by the preceding Caliph, or selected by a committee, or may attempt to gain the power through a military coup (as was in the case of Muawiyah).
Then why this is not the case today? Why do all wahabi saudi kings have to be from the same bloodline?
i aint disrespecting any1, i am jst telling every1 a fact which cannot denied by any one who think they are clever in the head.
and now sunni and shia are brothers, we cant change sunni to shia or shia to sunni so without any conflicts lets let the god jodg us by our deeds. instead of arguing over this id rather be a brother to sunni beleivers and protect islam even if it costs death.
guys just read the holy quran and read hadith of prophet, you will find out who is write and who is wrong,
sunni brovers r folwin da rong path, they hve no rspct for their shia brothers neither for the rest of the world.
they accept umar as their khalifah who insulted invaded prophit's ahlubayt's house and forced imam ali to vote for omar so omar could become a leader of islam.
Imam ali the was most intelegent man and the best person in the wold and the bravest and strongest man in the wolrd
Assalamo Alikum,We Ahle sunnah 100% Agree on this that Syedna Ali (RA) and his family is included in Ahle Bait. The Word Ahle Bait is properly for Prophets (PBUH) Wives and for all those,to whom Beloved prophet (PBUH) included in this list ,as Sydna Bilal (RA).Regarding The Sourh Ahzab Ayet # 33 Please note that this Sourah is Makki Sourah and Syedna Ali (RA) Married to Syeda Fatima (RA) in Madina. The Shia scholers dont have right to take out Prophet(PBUH) wives from Ahle bait list. Thanks
Fayazbaloch 2 months ago
if the sunni bros will do proper research themselves abt the sahaba's they will realise there are some who were really great and others who were really rich and corrupt!!!yes some changed as soon as the prophet p.b.u.h passed away which is inhuman!
read abt haroon al rashid,the rightly guided in wikipedia,all his life was full of wine,women, riches,poetry telling and the list goes on...is this the rightly guided on whom alaf layla was made??wat kind of rightly guided example he was??
suzannechristos 4 months ago
@suzannechristos brother, I have read Tirmidi, and please learn the rule of debate first, when books like Shahih Bhuhari and Shaih Muslim have different story narrated to Tirimidi we take them in order, anyway regarding who is from family of Prophet Mohammed swas, then the wives are included, please dont just read Surah 33:33 also read verses that are before it to get the whole understand, we Ahle Sunnah dont just pick and match, read all and understand all. So many greatets alima have said same
jasimisbest2 4 months ago
@suzannechristos and brother please go and do your re-search, if you call a person SAHABA then go and search the definition of a SAHABA, what criteria one must be to be a SAHABI of Rasool swas. Haroon Al Rashid?? who cares about him, we are talking about people who have written with great regards to SAHABA in 2nd century or infact the Ahlul bayt praises of Sahaba.. we dont need people like Haroon Rashid to give us Sahaba status.. Ali rda prayed behind caliphas that is enough for Muslims!!HAQ ALI
jasimisbest2 4 months ago
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MUNAFAQAT OF SHIAS:
SHIAS NEVER ACCEPT ANY SON OF HASAN AS INFALLIBLE IMAM. HASAN HAS A LOT OF SONS BUT NONE OF HIS SON IS INFALLIBLE IMAM, WHY? WERE THEY NOT PIOUS? WERE THEY NOT FROM AHLE BAIT? SHIAS SAY THAT ALLAH APPOINTS INFALLIBLE IMAMS. WHERE ALLAH HAS SAID THAT NO SON OF HASAN IS ELIGIBLE FOR INFALLIBLE IMAMAT?
WHY SHIAS DONT DO MATAM FOR HAMZA? DONT SHIAS LOVE HAMZA? AFTERALL HAMZA WAS ALSO KILLED BY WAHSHU, SLAVE OF HINDA.
Islam1491 5 months ago
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We read in al-Jazairi’s book Anwar al Numaniya , vol. 1, p. 60
“Indeed Imams are his (Abu Bakr’s) descendants because Jafar Sadiq’s mother Umm Farwa was daughter of Qasim bin Muhammad bin Abu Bakr”
Jafar Sadiq said “Abu Bakr gave me birth twice”
Ummadut talib p. 195, Kashaful Ghumma, vol. 2, p. 373
Hasan, the elder son of Ali, married Hafsa bint Abur Rahman, the grand daughter of Abu Bakr, hence Hasan was the son in law of Abu Bakr’s son, Abdur Rahman
Islam1491 5 months ago
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9:100 And the foremost, the first of the Emigrants (Mohajirs)and the Helpers (Ansars),and those who followed them in goodness Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him,and He has prepared for them Gardens wherein flow rivers,abiding therein for ever.That is the mighty achievement.SHIANE IBLEES CURSE SAHABAS WHEREAS ALLAH IS PLEASED WITH THEM. ALI HAS KEPT HIS SONS NAMES AS ABU BAKR,UMAR AND USMAN AND HAS CLEARLY SHOWN THAT HE HAS NO LINK WITH SHIANE IBLEES.
Islam1491 5 months ago
Allah says prophet,saw, has daughters,shias reject it.
Allah says all wives of last prophet,saw,are mothers of believers and ahle bait, shias reject it.
Allah says that believers will see him on doomsday,shias reject it.
Allah proves innocence of syeda ayesha siddiqa in surah noor,shias reject it.
Allah says he was pleased with believers (including four khulfas)when they were taking bayt under tree,shias reject it.
Allah says he is pleased with sahabas,shias reject it
Islam1491 6 months ago
ayate tatheera is about azwaje rasool allah saw
RajaJ33 6 months ago
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Allah was well pleased with the believers when they swore allegiance unto thee beneath the tree, and He knew what was in their hearts, and He sent down peace of reassurance on them, and hath rewarded them with a near victory;}
Ayah 48:18.
FOUR KHULFAS AND HUNDREDS OF SAHABAS WERE PRESENT ON THIS OCCASION WHOM SHIANE IBLEES CURSE AND THUS DENY THE QURANIC AYAT.
UsmanAli771 8 months ago
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Allah says prophet,saw, has daughters, shias reject it.
Allah says all wives of last prophet,saw, are mothers of believers and ahle bait, shias reject it.
Allah says that believers will see him on doomsday, shias reject it.
Allah proves innocence of syeda ayesha siddiqa in surah noor, shias reject it.
Allah says he was pleased with believers(including four khulfas)when they were taking bayt under tree, shias reject it
Allah says he is pleased with sahabas,shias reject it.
UsmanAli771 8 months ago
JANGE HOD SE BHAGE HIUE AJ MILE HO SARI SIP SHAHBA JAB JANGE HOD SE BHAGI TO KIS NE MADAD KI MOLA ALI KI TALWAR KE SADKE MA MILNE WALE MALE GHANMAT PAR BADE HONE WALE AJ TUM HAM PER HAI BHOK RAHI HAO
67mrfarooq 8 months ago
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This is an open challenge for the Shia to give Quranic verses which outline and justify the Shia concept of Imamah. Can the Shia produce even a single verse outlining Imamah, without any additions to the translation, without parenthetical insertions to the translation, without Hadith to “support” their interpretation, without Tafseer, and without their own personal commentaries leading us from verse to verse?
UsmanAli771 8 months ago
For those who thinks of Shia separate themselves from others then u will have to read your own books sahih al bukhari. What Omar himself sAid that prophet Mohammad (sa)and Ali (as) knew and said Omar was not capable oh being khalifa.he was also behind bibi Fatima the prophets daughter and hazrat Ali (as) wife. How come you ppl lie yo every one.
SuperStart2011 8 months ago
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Few Shia actually realize that the term shia is used in the Quran in multiple places, and almost every single time in a negative light.
and be not amongst those who join gods with Allah, those who split up their Religion, and become shias (sects) - each party rejoicing in that which is with itself. (Quran, 30:31-32)
Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into shias (sects) for he was indeed a maker of mischief. (Quran, 28:4)
UsmanAli771 9 months ago
@lubna- brother with all respect, why do you choose which Sahaba you will love? Why have you missed ABu Baakr rda? Umar usman rda? as they were the first 3 claiphas of Islam? you want to know what relation Sahabas had, well first example, Hazrat Ali rda married his sister in law to hazrat Abu Bakar rda when his bother was martyred. Secondly Hazrat Ali rda married his daughter to Umar rda, thirdly Hazrat usman rda was married to 2 daughters of Rasool swas, please learn the family tree of Ahlulbyt
jasimisbest2 9 months ago
wshanny - if you really follow Ahle bait then follow there way and love the Sahabas... just liek Hazrat Ali rda did, just like Hazrat Hassan and Hazrat Hussain rda has relationship with the Sahaba....
this is a common shia propaganda that they left Sunnis because love of Ahle Bait..
To be a TRUE Sunni you have to LOVE AhleBait as they are our spritual leaders and love Sahabas as they are also our leaders... most of the SUFI TARIQAAT of Sunnis link back to Ahle Bait...
We are not Wahabis
jasimisbest2 9 months ago
@jasimisbest2 With all due respect what relations did the entire panjitan have with the sahaba and who specifically were the sahaba's. yes we love sahabas...we love Bilal (RA) we love Abu Zar (RA)...We love Miqdad (RA)...We love Salman e Farsi(RA)...we love Ammar e Yasir (RA) and we have a list who says we dont love sahabas ???
lubnasajjad1 9 months ago
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this is main reason i become shia muslim from suuni muslim.ahlulbait are infallible
wshanny50 10 months ago
this is main reason i become shia muslim from suuni muslim.ahlulbait are infallible
wshanny50 10 months ago
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this is main reason i become shia muslim from suuni muslim.ahlulbait are infallible .
wshanny50 10 months ago
this is main reason i become shia muslim from suuni mulim.ahlulbait are infallible .
wshanny50 10 months ago
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یزید لعنتی کافر ہے،احمد بن حنبل کا فتویٰٰ
ملا علی قاری ،شرح شفاء میں لکھتا ہے
یزید اور ابن زیاد اور انہی کے مثل دوسرے لوگوں پر لعنت کرنا جائز ہے کیونکہ بعض علماء کرام نے ان دونوں پر لعنت کرنا جائز قرار دیا ہے بلکہ احمد بن حنبل یزید کے کفر کے قائل ہیں
شرح شفاء //مُُلا علی قاری // ج 2// ص 552//طبع الاولیٰ 1421ھ ، جز:2،دارُلکتب العلمیہ بیروت
Libra110pk 10 months ago
یحییٰٰ بن عبد الملک بن ابی غنیہ جو ثقہ راویوں میں سے ایک ہیں، نے بیان کیا کہ ہم سے نوفل بن ابی عقرب نے جو ثقہ روای ہیں بیان کیا کہ میں حضرت عمربن عبد العزیز کے پاس موجود تھا کہ ایک شخص نے یزید بن معاویہ کا ذکر کیا اور کہا کہ امیرالمومنین یزید نے فرمایا ، تو حضرت عمر بن عبد العزیز نے فرمایا کہ تو یزید کو امیرالمومنین کہتا ہے? اور اس شخص کو بیس کوڑے مارنے کا حکم دیا
تہذیب ُُالتہذیب //ابن حجر//ج 11//ص 361//طبع الاولیٰٰ ،1325ھ //جز:12//ھند
سیراعلام النبلاء//ذہبی//ج 4//ص 40//
Libra110pk 10 months ago
@Libra110pk , I AGREE WITH YOU. YAZID LAIN AND SHIAS OF KUFA ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING OF HUSSAIN. SHIAS OF KUFA INVITED HUSSAIN , WROTE LETTERS TO HIM, ASSURED HIM OF THEIR SUPPORT AND THEN LEFT HUSSAIN ALONE, DECEIVE HIM AND RAN AWAY. SANAN WHO CRITICALLY INJURED HUSSAIN WAS A PERSIAN SHIA, SHIMR WHO CUT HEAD OF HUSSAIN WAS A SHIA AND REAL PARENTAL NEPHEW OF UMUL BANIN, WIFE OF ALI. THIS IS ALL DRAMA OF SHIAS TO DO AZADARI OTHERWISE WHERE THEIR AZADARI DISAPPEAR FOR 10 IMAMS AND HAMZA?
UsmanAli771 9 months ago
@UsmanAli771 shiea k mani groh k hen or do groh they shieaney headere karrar or dosra shieaney mawiea tha jo yazeedi tha
Taqwa110 8 months ago 2
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nokia5095007 1 year ago
@razanice - Hazrat Usman rda did not give FADAK land to Marwan laanti, however your concern as a shia should be with Hazrat Ali rda, did he give the land to anyone? or did any ahlul bait Imam (as) give the land to there family??/ NO THEY DIDNT!!!!!!!! Hazrat Ali rda follow same as Abu baakr rda, Umar rda and Usman rda... then who are you to question the blessed people after 1400 years!!! go and read ur own Hadeeth books and see how Prophets dont inherit properties! Dont waste my time!
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
@razanice- i can only laugh at ur comment that Sahih Bhukhari is full of fabrication, while your shia schlors have confirmed themselves that 65% of Shia hadeeetsh are either fabricated or zaeef, and the shaih shia hadeeths are mostly found in various SUnni hadeeth book, by the way Sunnis dont just have 6 hadeeth books we have over 20 different collection but the earliest one are the first 6. Please go and do some search before posting.
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
i am shia... i love and respect sunni muslims. they r our brothers.... and my request is to please unite....
1o1reply2u 1 year ago
shia sunni must keep aside their differences because the enemy is benefitting from
disunity.Like Imam Khomenei said we must unite against the Zionists, all are
Muslims,our differences are minor.
We must follow one single leadership,of the time that is our leader is Ayatullah Khamenei,under his guidance and support Hizbullah ,has remained
victorious,and his President Mr Ahmedinejad had stood against the injustices
prevailing in the world
mariah880 1 year ago 2
it is shameful for shia to attack Bhukahri or any sunni books, Sunni books ar eknown be have authetic hadeeth where Shia books till today are forged with fabricated event, even the shia schlros themselves have declared there own boks to eb 65% zaeef, most of the hadeetsh that are found in shai book to be true and found in Sunni books !! please study histtory and then post your comments here, dont give us emotional and half told event that are fully biased and twisted!
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
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Shias even attack Hazrat Ali(ra)!!
narrated by Ali which states that the Prophet made muta'a haram on the day of Khaiber (Book of Tahdeeb: vol. 7, pg. 251, rewaya 10). The author states that Ali lied for the purposes of safety (taqiya). In Book of Istebsar: vol. 3, pg. 142, rewaya 5, there is a declaration by Ali that muta'a is haram. Again they accuse Ali of lying for safety reasons (taqiya).
artistdigital 1 year ago
@jasimisbest2 sahi bukhari is full of fabricated hadis.
raza2nice 1 year ago
@jasimisbest2 haqiqat bata di to bura laggaya.suni books kaysay sahi ho sakti hay abubakar aur omer nay to sari hadis ke kitab jaladi the.yeh sari hadis mavia kay zamanay may ghari gai the.rahi humari kitabon ke bat to hum wo he hadis ko sahi mantay hayn jo rasool ki hadis aur quran kay mutabiq ho har ghari hui hadis ko sahi nahi mantay.hum log aqal rakhtay hayn ghaday nahi hayn
raza2nice 5 months ago
@raza2nice meray bahi, i can gurantee you what you have just wrote is 100% false, alhumdullilah Sunni hadeeth books are majoirty authetic, where Shia book such as Usole Kafi are even confirmed by Shia schlor to 60%+ zaeef or fabricated. Brother please do your research, even do your research on hazrat Abu bakar rda and Omar rda brunign hadeeth books, i can assure you, your search will come back with no result as it is false and unreliable stories from liars that hate the calipha's
jasimisbest2 5 months ago
@sohshia - forget all what you ahve said, JUST please give me referecen for what you said that Umar rda beat Abu Hurarira with KORA!!! just give me one reference and true reference from Bhukhari..... I will expose your lies.... what you have spoken is filth and all emotional lies that your mullas have filtered your head with... please dont try to teach me history ALhumdullilah i am ghulam of Ahlul Bait and know my hsitroy very well, i study under schlor not liars like your ayatollahs!
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
@asfar.herat hey pehle tu ap lo bohat zada zaban kholte ho jub hum loq quran or sunat sey jawab dete hain tu nhi bolte k yes u r rite.khisyani bili ki tarah hote ho.or phir kisi doosre net pe wohi sawal repeat kerte ho.shame on u.reply if u hve courage.
sohnishah 1 year ago
@jesimisbest2.tum log kehte ho abu hurera ne nabi ka jhoota doodh pi liya tu bass dimag computer hogya..socho jo ali hasan ,husain,fatima nabi ki zaban choos choos k jawan hoe,wo kiya ho gey.dekho bukhari umer ney abu hurera ko koro sey mara k tu nabi pe jhoot bandta heytu bohat ravayatain bayan kerta hey.ya tu umer jhoote they ya hurera.manlo
sohnishah 1 year ago
@jesimisbest2.tum log kehte ho abu hurera ne nabi ka jhoota doodh pi liya tu bass dimag computer hogya..socho jo ali hasan ,husain,fatima nabi ki zaban choos choos k jawan hoe,wo kiya ho gey.dekho bukhari umer ney abu hurera ko koro sey mara k tu nabi pe jhoot bandta heytu bohat ravayatain bayan kerta hey.ya tu umer jhoote they ya hurera.manlo
sohnishah 1 year ago
@jesimisbest2. I think abi tuk ap bukhari badmash or history parne mey masroof hain.first look k bukhari k ravi ko ko hain.kahi aisha apne bap ki or apni tarifo mey masroof hey.tu kahi abu bkr apni or apni beti ki.kahi umer kahi usman kahi bilion ka bap.jo 2sal b nhi ki sohbat mey nhi raha or 5000 hadisain likh dali.dekhao ehle bait ,bibi khatija,bibi ume salma ki rivayat..shame on u.
sohnishah 1 year ago
@jesimisbest2..bukhari khud apne abu ka qaul pare...abu bkr ne farmaya.uhad mey hum rasool{saww} ko chor k aise bhag rahe thee jese pahar per pahari bakrian koodti hain....ab ya tu mane bukhari jhoot hey ya rivayat ko nikal dey.mr gawah.bukhari gor sey parna.shame on u.
sohnishah 1 year ago
@jesimisbest2..bukhari khud apne abu ka qaul pare...abu bkr ne farmaya.uhad mey hum rasool{saww} ko chor k aise bhag rahe thee jese pahar per pahari bakrian koodti hain....ab ya tu mane bukhari jhoot hey ya rivayat ko nikal dey.mr gawah.bukhari gor sey parna.shame on u.
sohnishah 1 year ago
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@jesimisbest2.dear hostory parne ki ap bohat zaroorat hey.ager pari hoti tu jahil nhi bante.mola ali n mola hasan k dor mey fidak inhe ki custody mey tha.bt phir ap ka dada muaviya aya n he snached again.no2 q..dear ager mujrim khud apna jurm maan le tu gawah rud hojata hey..chale ap ki sub sey sahi kitab ka bab uhad parte hain.nxt coment.
sohnishah 1 year ago
@jesimisbest2.dear hostory parne ki ap bohat zaroorat hey.ager pari hoti tu jahil nhi bante.mola ali n mola hasan k dor mey fidak inhe ki custody mey tha.bt phir ap ka dada muaviya aya n he snached again.no2 q..dear ager mujrim khud apna jurm maan le tu gawah rud hojata hey..chale ap ki sub sey sahi kitab ka bab uhad parte hain.nxt coment.
sohnishah 1 year ago
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@asfar000.nonmuslim ka joota ap logo k mounh pe.woh kehte hain k hum tu apne nabi ki beti k sath aisa salook ka soch b nhi sakte.woh ager humari jan b mangti tu dete.ye kese musalman the jo apne nabi ki beti ko takleef dete rahe.theek hey woh bari property na sahi 4 trees hi hote.muger jis ka huq tha ous ko dena chhye tha.na k kabza kerte.ab socho greedy kon tha. Shame shame.
sohnishah 1 year ago
@asfar000.nonmuslim ka joota ap logo k mounh pe.woh kehte hain k hum tu apne nabi ki beti k sath aisa salook ka soch b nhi sakte.woh ager humari jan b mangti tu dete.ye kese musalman the jo apne nabi ki beti ko takleef dete rahe.theek hey woh bari property na sahi 4 trees hi hote.muger jis ka huq tha ous ko dena chhye tha.na k kabza kerte.ab socho greedy kon tha. Shame shame.
sohnishah 1 year ago
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@asfar000.wese ye ap hi ka di gurda hey jo masooma bibi k liye ya alfaz use ker sakte hain mashallah ap logo sey aise cments ki umeed hoti hey.abu bkr umer ko bachane k liye tu ap log kisi b hud tuk gir sakte hain.pehli bar soona k apna huq mangne wala greedy hta hey. qubza krne wala nhi..loll.shame on u.shia tumhare khalifao ka asl chehra dekhate hain duniya ko k nabi k bad oun k yaro ney kiya gul khilae.
sohnishah 1 year ago
@asfar000.wese ye ap hi ka di gurda hey jo masooma bibi k liye ya alfaz use ker sakte hain mashallah ap logo sey aise cments ki umeed hoti hey.abu bkr umer ko bachane k liye tu ap log kisi b hud tuk gir sakte hain.pehli bar soona k apna huq mangne wala greedy hta hey. qubza krne wala nhi..loll.shame on u.shia tumhare khalifao ka asl chehra dekhate hain duniya ko k nabi k bad oun k yaro ney kiya gul khilae.
sohnishah 1 year ago
@asfar000.lol.lanat ap ki soch or shia pe ilam ki.ap ke walid ki property ager cheen ley tu ap ya ap ki family bilkul nhi wapis mangna.cz log ap ko b greedy bole gey.lolllllll nhi mere bhai koi aqalmand nhi kahe ga k bibi pak jo iz rohe quran masooma,sadiqa hain wo greedy{nauzubila}ho gi.mently shetan hain ap log.hum logo ko btana chate hain k huq mangne wala greedy hey ya cheene wala.apni aql pey matam karo
sohnishah 1 year ago
@asfar000.lol.lanat ap ki soch or shia pe ilam ki.ap ke walid ki property ager cheen ley tu ap ya ap ki family bilkul nhi wapis mangna.cz log ap ko b greedy bole gey.lolllllll nhi mere bhai koi aqalmand nhi kahe ga k bibi pak jo iz rohe quran masooma,sadiqa hain wo greedy{nauzubila}ho gi.mently shetan hain ap log.hum logo ko btana chate hain k huq mangne wala greedy hey ya cheene wala.apni aql pey matam karo
sohnishah 1 year ago
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@jamesrammstein.lol.ye tu ap ki agl hey mr.first listen ds debate.i tell u hve no knwlage abt islam.fidaq 3km bara bag tha jo nabi pak ney apni beti ko diya.ager 3 trees b hote jub nabi ki beti ney apni property mangi tu oun ko deni chahye thi.ager woh abu bkr k bap ki hoti tu u cn say k greed hey.pehle ye tu jan lo greedy kehte kisi hain.is sey sabit hoa k abu bkr greedy kitne thee jis ney doosre ki property pey huq jataya.shame on u.
sohnishah 1 year ago
@jamesrammstein.lol.ye tu ap ki agl hey mr.first listen ds debate.i tell u hve no knwlage abt islam.fidaq 3km bara bag tha jo nabi pak ney apni beti ko diya.ager 3 trees b hote jub nabi ki beti ney apni property mangi tu oun ko deni chahye thi.ager woh abu bkr k bap ki hoti tu u cn say k greed hey.pehle ye tu jan lo greedy kehte kisi hain.is sey sabit hoa k abu bkr greedy kitne thee jis ney doosre ki property pey huq jataya.shame on u.
sohnishah 1 year ago
motherfucker shias has only one thing to repeat, what we will do if Ali and his family were only Ahle bait, Allah will ask these bastard shia only 3 question, who should be first Kalifa, who is ahle bait, who was Ali.
asfar000 1 year ago
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The question remains: why is there no verse in the Quran about the institution of the twelve Infallible Imams? We find Shia literature replete with references to the Imams. Indeed, the Shia have elevated the status of the Imam to monumental proportions, exhorting him as a creature that possesses more knowledge than the angels, prophets, and creation. Then how come the Quran just doesn’t say it?
MuhammadAhmad1 1 year ago
@kayhan - you stupid illterate idiot go and get osme education, go and learn the Ali rda is the same Ali rda who done bayah with Abu Bakar rda, he is the same Ali rda who married his brother wife after his death to Abu bakar rda, he is the smae Ali rda who named his children Abu Baakr, umar and Usman! you dont know anything you shia;s are emotional shit speakers thats all! go and fool the ones who have no knowledge!
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
Sunni is a CULT. It's not Islam.
kayhan213 1 year ago
@imabe - lol you idiot, who is this sunni alim??/ you live in pakistan you must know there are so many sunni alims out there but who the hell is this guy??/ why bring someone that no one is heard one lol... yaar deen ka mazaaak mut banao grow up you idiot... learn islam and see the histroy for the truth... ALLAH and His Nabi paak swas were not fools like you shia;s have made them! Islam Zindabaad
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
sahnishah- ABu Bakar and Umar rda did not run away from the battles why are you lieing for?? read histroy books to get the fact. Also Khaybur was given to Mohammed swas as gift and that was for the Ummah, PROPHETs of ALLAH dont have prosnal assets.. also if ABu Bakar rda took this and shared the wealth for Ummah what is wrong? also why didnt Mola Ali rda reutrn it back when he was the leader why did HAssan or Hussain rda take it back when they had chance why did they follow Abu Bakar? think!!!
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
@jasimisbest2 You ready the history books! Stop being brainwashed. Abu Bakr tried to convince the Prophet (pbuh) to leave to Medina without Ali (as) who was willing to sacrifice his life for the safety of the Prophet (pbuh). Sunnis is the religion of Shaitan.
kayhan213 1 year ago
@jasimisbest2 i am really surprised how illetrate u people are.quran says prophet have personal asset.ok if the land was for ummah why did usman gave it to marwan his relative
raza2nice 1 year ago
nabi pak got fidak propertly in batel of khaiber.n mind it the hero of khaiber ws mola ali as.umer n abu baker ran away frm frm ds batel..so they had no rites on dis property..god gifted it 2 nabi pak.n nabi pak gave it 2 janabe syeda...mer jao sher sey nabi ki beti k bjae abu bker or umer ki wikalat kerte ho.sham on u.
sohnishah 1 year ago
shame on u who says thm fake.as u cn c they hve strong hadis.dis is old habbit of sinni they make a noise n fight when they think they r looser.always debate through ilm n aql..n abu baker hs accepted his zulm .n bibi pak said i ill do bud_dua 4 abu baker n umer ,till im alive.
sohnishah 1 year ago
@sohnishah you are not abusing sunnis you are abusing Fatima RA you shia says that Fatima was so greedy that she start a muslim only because Abu bakr RA didnot gave samll property. Even 3class Muslim will not do that,
asfar000 1 year ago
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@sohnishah you are not abusing sunnis you are abusing Fatima RA you shia says that Fatima was so greedy that she start a muslim only because Abu bakr RA didnot gave samll property. Even 3rd class Muslim will not do that,
asfar000 1 year ago
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@sohnishah you are not abusing sunnis you are abusing Fatima RA you shia says that Fatima was so greedy that she start a muslim only because Abu bakr RA didnot gave small property. Even 3rd class Muslim will not do that,
asfar000 1 year ago
pakistan4life. you are correct the shia;s have habit of sinign emotional poesm to misguide these people i couldnt agree more with you... now regarding fadak issue just listen to some real schlors not these fake pundits above, listen to thia rul Qadri who also shia love and see how he exposed the lies of Fadak... ahle sunnah is haq and ahle sunnah is Ahlul Bait!!!!! YA ALI MADAD
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
@jasimisbest2 ABEY DEKHO TO SAHI POEM KON PARH RAHA HAI SHIA YA SUNI PEHLE YE TO DEKH LENA THA HAHAHHAHAHAHHA AISE HI REMARKS DE RAHE HO JAN ALI KAZMI NE QURAN AUR HADEES SE BAAT KI AUR SUNI ALIM NE EK QITA YAD A RAHA HAI KAHA HAI HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
imabbee 1 year ago
when these people have nothing to say they start saying poems .. lol that is embarrasing.. Jan Ali shah Proved it with intelligence and brains
pakistani4life 1 year ago
to all the jahil shia's if Hazrta Ali rda was selected by Mohammed sws and the words are from ALLAH, then there is no power in the world that could havr taken the rights of Hazrta Ali rda... Hazrta Ali rda read his prayers behind all the claiphas, his children were named abu bakar, usman and umar. Ali rda married his sister in law after his brother died to Abu Bakar rda.... Shia why are you hiding reality? go and watch Tahir ul Qadri lecture he has explained all very well and refuted ur claims!
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
JANAB E SAYYIDA SLAM ULLAH ALIHA K GHASIBON PAR LAANAT HO BAYSHUMAR
ammarhassnain 1 year ago
Molana sab khoda apka saya hamaray saroon per qaim rakhay. or apko doshmanan.e.Islam or doshmanan.e.Ahlibait ki shar say mahfooz rakhay. Ameen suma Ameen..
ali84120 1 year ago
why ALi RA was so anxious to become Kalifa, we know what he done for Islam when he became Kalifa, nothing. He has no contribution in Islam if we compare with the contribution of Abu Bakr and Omar RA
asfar000 1 year ago
@asfar000 brother Asfar, Hazrat Ali rda was one of the greatets person in Islam please dont use abuse agaisnt Ali rda, Ali is HAQ and HAQ is Ali, we are not Shia that we will hate Sahaba for love of Ahlul Bait and we are not Wahabis to Hate Ahlul abyt for love of Sahaba,,, we are AHLUL SUNNAH WAL JAMAH we love and respect Ahlul abit and Sahabas .... And we dont points fingers at what KHALIFAS done... please heed to my advise. Wasalam
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
@asfar000 Hazrat Ali (a.s) was nominated (Moula) by the Prophet Muhammad pbuh in other words by the God at the place of Ghadeer when Prophet was comming back after perform Hajj.. So Ali (a.s) was not anxious to become Khalifa like Abubkar and Omer Lanti... Hazrat Ali (a.s) was already Imam (Moula) while abubakr and omer was greedy for this post>>>if you see thier election Abubkar nominted by small group of people and omer nominted by first lanti and second lanti made shura (sahme on you)
abubakrfullanti 1 year ago
kimmy- Sunni wahabi might be hole but we are not WHORES like your mothers and sisters and not kaffir like you!!!
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
@jasimisbest2 ACHA TO AM ALFAZ MEIN TUM NE GALI DI HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA SAHI MAJBOOR THE TUM B BHT ATTITUTE DEKHA LI TUM NE HAHHAHAHHAHAHA
imabbee 1 year ago
sokeers- if Fadak was snacthed of Fatima rda, then what did Hazrat Ali rda do and his sons??? Ali rda became a Calipha and he didnt change the verdict, r u saying that Hazrat Ali rda supported the wrong.... the problem with you shia;s is you follow hate and self made beleifs... we follow our leaders stcik to there decision, Hazrat Ali rda action of not changing anyting of FADAK is enough for any Muslim to stay quite on the issue... now who are you following?
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
sokeers- if Fadak was snacthed of Fatima rda, then what did Hazrat Ali rda do and his sons??? Ali rda became a Calipha and he didnt change the verdict, r u saying that Hazrat Ali rda supported the wrong.... the problem with you shia;s is you follow hate and self made beleifs... we follow our leaders stcik to there decision, Hazrat Ali rda action of not changing anyting of FADAK is enough for any Muslim to stay quite on the issue... now who are you following?
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
Fadaq was taken from Fatima AS and the same way she will take heaven away from them...when the sunni does not knw wht to say he recites a shayari... this is all they do they r best at changing TOPIC and baffling people and making innocent people believe in wrong. they give tableeq to those who r jahils but are no match against the learned. May Allah bless the true followers of Islam.
spikeerulzz 1 year ago
Where is the rebuttal from the sunni side ??
waqasalikhanrajput 1 year ago
kafir kafir shia kafai
ihrabbani 1 year ago
@ihrabbani u son bitch kafir mother fucker
jimmy786UK 1 year ago
@ihrabbani
jimmy786UK 1 year ago
@ihrabbani khali bhoknay say kaya hota hay.aj tak to kuch sabit nahi karsakay.
raza2nice 1 year ago
sheerali, YES please get me a FATWA to say that QURAN Tehreef is KUFFAR!!! get it from QOM or any Shia authority.... I will wait and see what you bring!!!!
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
SHIA CAN BARK all they want!! they are just liars!! if shia are truthful about there beliefs!! then bring US ONE fatwa from your Shaytanullahs which states thats Qurna Tehreef is KUFFAR!!! shia do not believe in full Quran !! this is challeneg to all Shia to bring one fatwa of Kuffar for Quran Tehreef beliver!! just one!!! this is challeneg!!! forget everyhting else as QURAN is book of ALLAH!! lets talk about BELIEF IN QURAN
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
@jasimisbest2 sunni wahabi are hole
jimmy786UK 1 year ago
Fatimah (AS) , Knew that she had short time to live , she was not after the property , ONLY that she was trying to SHOW the Muslims ,who there KHALIFA would be. YES , if a so called Amir al Mouminin , takes the right from the DAUGHTER of Rasulallah(SAWA) , THINK what he may do to you ??
irooni100 1 year ago
AKCP - shia is turth??? well if it is truth I challeneg you to bring me ONE FATWA form your ALims AYATOLLAHS to say that QURNA TEHREEF is KUFR< just bring me ONE FATWA from your shia;s IRAN to say anyone believeing Quran is not compelte or is added is KAFFIR!!! just bring one FATWA as QURAN is protected by ALLAH and anyone denying that is KAFFIR... now lets see how truthful you are!! i wait for you to bring me the fatwa!
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
@jasimisbest2 lol u want a fatwa ?
786sheerali 1 year ago
Shia is the truth thats it!"!
AK5CP 1 year ago
Jasimisbest2... mash-Allah... may Allah bless you & reward you more for elaborating on this issue...
ne6 2 years ago
some ref from shia books:
Also Zubair bin Awam cousin of Ali rda says the following: we came to conclusion that Abu bakar rda was most entitled to Khailfat. He was the companion of the CAVE and the second of the two. We also knew his age and we were familiar with that fact that Prophet Mohammed swas in his life time ordered him to lead the prayer
(ibn abi al hadid al shi, sharh Nehjul Balagh, Vol 1, P332)
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
it is in shia book Usole Kafi narrated by Imam Jafar rda " it is wajib for the Imam e haq, to raise his sword agaisnt nay flase imam", Hazrta Ali rda never raised sword agaisnt ABu bakar rda or any other claipha's instead he worked with them and helped them make decisions, Ali rda is ASADULLAH, if he was told by nabi Paak swas that he is the Claipha then no way would Ali rda let this go, he would fight like he did in Khaybar and take what is RIGHT!! thats why ALI is HAQ and HAQ is ALI,!!!!
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
Do you know why it was said "whoever hurts Fatima rda has hurt me and Allah" search the history from Shia books we can prove that Ali rda upset Fatima rda and these words were said!!, also when Rasool swas " Ali is Mowla to whom I am mowla" this was said because some people disgreed with Ali rda on YEMEN war so prophet said this to tell them the importance of Ali rda. if this was for leadership then why did Nabi Paak swas ask Abu Bakar rda to lead prayer when Ali rda was there?!!
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
@jasimisbest2 PROPHET NEVER ASKED ABUBAKAR TO LEAD PRAYERS.HUZOOR NAY JAISH E USAMA MAY ABUBAKAR AUR USMAN KO JANAY KAHA THA.USAMA KO LASHKAR KA SARDAR BANAYA THA.JO LASHKAR KA SARDAR HOTA HAY WOH HE IMAM HOTA HAY IS HISAB SA USAMA KO KHALIFA HONA CHAYA THA
raza2nice 5 months ago
@raza2nice again, it is a fact confirmed by even in Shia books such as Bihar un Anwar, Haqul yaqeen that Abu Bakar rda was requested to lead prayers and that Abu Bakar rda led prayer 8 times, this has also been discusse don Shia channels that this even is true, and now today you come and say it is not true, and Usama should be calipha because he led a war... brotehr i again request you to not post without knowledge, as the stories agaisnt Calipas mostly hold no values as HAQ is HAQ!!! ALI ALI
jasimisbest2 5 months ago
@raza2nice meray bahi, please jsut do honest research, REad QURAN and the status of Sahabas in Quran, and refer to Authetic hadeetsh and not histroy books.. INSHALLAH may ALLAH guide you ameen
jasimisbest2 5 months ago
@jasimisbest2 plz u read ...he is not talking history...he is talking from quran surah ahzab 33:33,if u understand tirmeedhi is also a sunni scholar and clearly stated that it is true,plus umm salamah asking here that am i one of them,as she is prophets wife,he says no u r my wife but these are my ahl al bayt...open your eyes brother!!! can someone be so blind?prophets famous hadith..i leave behind two things QURAN and AHL AL BAYT!the sunni scholar is quoting poetry as reply????funny really
suzannechristos 4 months ago
@suzannechristos first of all brother, this debate is no debate its a shame ploy!!! Sunni Schlors first dont keep the beard this guy has as it is not the sunnah? secondly who is this sunni schlor that no one seesm to know!!!! the Sunni argument about the Family fo Prophet Mohammed swas is very strong proven fromt he Quran and Hadeeth itself. The shia's even have habit of selecting the Ahlul Bayt and rejecting Imams like Imam Zaid rda, Imam yahya rda and Imam Ismail rda who were all ahle bait!
jasimisbest2 4 months ago
@suzannechristos fthe famous hadeeth you are talking about has been transmitted through many chains, the 6 Sunni hadeeth books and many other Sunni hadeeth books backt he one that says QURAN & SUNNAH, and the most important aspect my broter is that Mowla Ali rda himself read prayer behind claipha's and helped them in there troubles.That is enough for me as a Muslim to believe in Caliphas.Also Hazrat Ali rda also married his brother wife to Hazrat Abu bakar rda after death of his brother SEARCH!
jasimisbest2 4 months ago
PRECISELY,HAZRAT MOLA ALI A.S CANT LET HIS RELATIONS DETERIORATE WITH CALIPHS WHICH WOULD MEAN BLOOD SHED AMONG THE MUSLIMS OR MORE SPECIFICALLY MOLA'S FOLLOWERS AND THE CALIPHS!!!!!!!! AND AS A MATTER OF FACT HE HELPED THEM BECAUSE THEIR PROBLEMS WERE THE STATE'S PROBLEM AND SUCH A GREAT MAN CANT LEFT THE UMMAH ALONE WHO'S IMPORTANCE AND GREAT CHARACTER WAS AND IS HIGHLIGHTED AND KNOWN BY EVERYONE! DUE TO LIMITED TIME I CANT ENTER IN TO THIS DEBATE NOW,I WISH MAY ALLAH SHOW US ALL THE RI8 PATH!
ThePanjtani1 4 months ago
@ThePanjtani1 JAZAKALLAH for your reply, if Hazrat Ali rda being a LION of ALLAH and having the lakub of ASAD ULLAH could help the claipha's because he didnt want bloodshed etc what are you shia's after 1400 years doing? are you going agaisnt your Imam?? os would it be correc to say the real folowers of Ali rda are Ahle sunnah wal Jamah who have respect Ali rda and clauphas and maintianed Islam as Hazrat Ali rda (even though we dont believe ur version is true)... please do re-search????
jasimisbest2 4 months ago
Salam, first of all Fadak issue is solved by Imam Ali rda himself where he supported the decision of ABu bakar rda and the 11 imams did not say anything about Fadak so we Sunnis support the decision and if imams stayed quite so stay quite. egarding Ghadeer, please search the whole even of Ghadeer, no way does Ghadeer give leaderhsip to Ali rda, if that was the case then why didnt Ali rda fight and if this was ALLAH wills then how come it never fulfilled!!!
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
ali - Muwawiya rda was a Sahabi, hazrat hassan rda done Sulha with him, Ali rda called him brother, yes they fought but that doesnt mean one becomes bad, yes he was wrong in his decision, but we have no right to abuse or say bad about him because the Ahle bait never did, what are you going to dsicuss about fadak??? your shia stance on fadak is useless and meaningless, but anyway feel free to post your issue on fadak but only one post at a time so we can answer and understand
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
My brother you are a person that i want to talk to (=, may allah bless you. You see the issue about fadak is important in a way. The profhet says 'who ever hurts fatima rda, hurts me. Imam ali granted the land of fadak to his wife, not abu bakr rda.
r0naldhin0 2 years ago
Regarding FADAK, the shia;s are always discussing this, but please find us one proof from 12 shia Imams that they ever disgareed regarding FADAK, show us one proof where HAssan and Hussain rda complained about Fadak, show us one proof where ALi rda fought for Fadak, if the AHlul abit respected ABu BAkar rda decision we as Muslims shoudl respect that to, Ali rda didnt agree with Muwawiya rda and fought him to show who is HAQ, why couldnt ALi rda fight Abu Bakar rda to claim haq of FADAK!!!
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
first thing make up your mind either muwawiya was good or bad......since u r sayin that ali(a.s) fought him for haq and on the other side u r putting rda with his name......decide first if u r gonna go with rda with his name then we will discuss abt Fadak.....
alideebaj5121472 2 years ago
rnaldi - very clever, YES Sunni books have gahdeer hadeeth, but we dont use it to claim Claiphate for ALi rda, we use it to show the status of ALi rda and his Waliyat as Wali, you tell e how can there be TWO MASTERS are same time??? when we have PRophet , why do we need MASTER?? brother read the event of GHADEER and see why Nabi Paak swas said ALI IS MOLA TO WHOM I AM MOLa, just like Why Nabi Swas said WHOEVER HURTS FATIMA HURT ME AND ALLAH""" there is logic behind this,. not shia illogical
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
May allah bless you for brining up the hadith of ghadeer. the profhet said that AFTER ME ALI Will be the mawla, u see if you go to ur college and ask an arabic professor, he will tell u the exact meaning of MAWLA, some people say mawla just means friend, or a brother, which doesnt make sense, the profhet would not stop hudnreds of people in a hot day, just to tell everyone that ali is his friend?, everyone allready knew ali was the profhets best friend.
r0naldhin0 2 years ago
brother, The profhet said, '' i will leave behind me the quran, and my family. ??? he didnt mean he will be the master now.., he said after i die, Ali will be the master, mawla, thats why we say YA MAWAL ALI YA MAWLA ali. Some people say we are worshiping when we say ALI MOWLA. If its like that, then everyone prays towards imam ali;s house.. Imam ali was the only person who was born in the house of god?. we pray towards GODS house as well as ali's home (=
r0naldhin0 2 years ago
Why are u guys debating about the land of fadak, or what happend after the profhet died. LETS talk about during the time when the profhet was alive. If you believe in the event of ghadeer then u accept imam ali as the FIRST islamic leader after the profhets death. MAy allah bless you jasimsbest2. I love brothers like you, who actually have information about the ahlelbait and the companion of the profhets. It makes me cry, because how brutally the grandson of the profhet was killed. )==
r0naldhin0 2 years ago
Some of the sunni brothers say why we do matam or spend days to mourn for the GRANDSON of the holy profhet. You must be kidding me right. FOLLOW THE SUNNAH BROTHERS, respect the family of the profhet, AHLAHBAIT, may allah bless all my borthers/sisters
r0naldhin0 2 years ago
Sahih bukari, muslim, it clearly states the day of ghadeerol kom, where the profhet stoped hudreds of people to declare imam ali the islamic leader after me. MAWLA means leader, master my brother, go ask a proffesor in the arab language and he/she will tell you the excact definition. This hadith is not even a shia source its from your books, in which you guys still deny. MASLAM may allah bless all my bothers.
r0naldhin0 2 years ago
TO all my brothers, Why are we debating about the land of fadak. Who cares only allah can judge in what happend. Imam Ali was the 4 political caliph but the first ISLAMIC LEADER, learn the difference. When the profhet died, Imam ali was the only person washing his body, while abu Bakr rda was deabting of who the next leader would be. Imam ali the only person to sleep in the profhets bed, ready to be killed so the profhet could live, WHY DO YOU GUYS deny this fact. MAY allah bless all my borthers
r0naldhin0 2 years ago
IF FADAK was taken away from Fatima rda, and Hazrta Abu bakar rda became a GUNAGHAR, then what about Hazrat Ali rda who even in his time never returned fadak? what about the next 12 imams, what about Hassan and Hussain rda who never fought or even talked about FADAK... you see the history and the Imams support Sunni and the decision of Hazrat Abu Bakar rda, it is the SHia's who change history hence are called RAFIDI (rejectors, munkirs)
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
iss bechary ko kon kehta thaa munazrah karo
jamiatahlehadith 2 years ago
The Four Rightly Guided Caliphs were good friends and Sahabah (Companions) to each other. Indeed, Ali was the vizier and top aid of the Three Caliphs during their respective Caliphates
decentmary1 2 years ago
It is a historical fact that Ali named three of his own children as Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman.
This fact is recorded by the classical Shia scholar, Shaikh Mufid, in Kitab al-Irshad, pp. 268-269,
In fact, not only were they not enemies, but rather they were Sahabah (companions) and friends to each other, so much so that Ali honored them by naming his children after them.
decentmary1 2 years ago
yes. and im living on the moon. btw look outside theres pigs flying
The12ImamsWEBSITE 2 years ago
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sh3rri1 2 years ago
MAD rafzi shia time waisting topic this is
nokia5095007 2 years ago
hahaha wow suni"s i dont want to say sham to u gays i will just laugh bc u r the real muslims.
wezert1 2 years ago
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Watch the video about Matam (Beating) on my page and spread what's true !!
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DehSeeker 2 years ago
BTW this ayat is for wives of prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Shia Mufasir Farman Ali says in his tarjuma that "Yee ayat yahan kee nahi balkay kisee khas gharz sai dakhil kee gai hai"
Unless and until Shia declare Quran as tempered their believes can not be proved. This is one example only.
shiakafirhai 2 years ago
Shame on Shia Alim. He is quoting munqatay rivayat. Rivayat is quoted by Ibn e Mardoya through Abu Saeed (RA). Ibne Mardoya was borned in 410 Hijra while Abu Saeed (RA) was Sahabi. How Ibne Mardoya could quote from Sahabi when he was born in 410 hijra.
I feel pity for shia alim. How week arguments he is giving.
shiakafirhai 2 years ago
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Zain606 2 years ago
Dear jasimisbest2 , u r asking very strange question. How Hazrat Ali (RA) could fight Hazrat Abu Bakr (RA) and Hazrat Umar (RA). They both were imams of Hazrat Ali (RA).
When Hazrat Ali (RA) became caliph he practiced the government in same way as caliphs before him did. Harzat Ali (RA).
Also, Hazrat Umar (RA) was son in law of Hazrat Ali (RA).
shiakafirhai 2 years ago
hahah Sunni Shia debate,,,,,, yaar why is it that every sunni shia debate we see, the Sunni schlor is always the one that no one knows about or he is not qualified,,,, stop this drama.... Baghe fadak I have one question please answer- Why did not Imam hassan or Hussain rda fight for there mothers land? Why did not Hazrta Ali rda fight for his wives haq? why did not any imam of Ahlul bayt speak bad of Abu bakar rda ? but only the fools shia speak but not Ahlul Bayt... SUNNI IS HAQ
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
Our prophet (PBUH) has taught us peace. when he went for hajj before sulah hudaibia.Makkans didn't allow him.why did he make peace with makkans? Hajj wasn't Haq of prophet (PBUH) at that time?The reason he made peace because he wanted to solve everything with peace.Now Listen one more thing.Ali(a,s),,Fatima (a.s) hassan(a,s) Hussain (a.s) are not hungry for land on earth.They are leaders of people of jannat...Fatima (a.s) just wanted to show that, the person who proved me wrong can't be right...
Zain606 2 years ago 2
Subhanallah, what a excuse. BTW, when Ali (RA) became caliph he had power to give the fadak to children Hazrat Fatima (RA). For the sake of debate we agree that Ali (RA) did not fight for fadak because of peace but what stopped him to give fadak when he was himself caliph?
shiakafirhai 2 years ago
LOL..Faddak wasn't his property...It was a gift that prophet(PBUH) gave to his daughter...Yes Ali(a.s) should have give it to his sons but your grandfather Mauwiya didn't let Ali do anything...Right after he became caliph people start rebellion against him..and your grandfather was on top.?.YOU answer me one question....IF Faddak was not gift of fatima(a.s) then why she went to get it from Abu baker ? If it wasn't gift then then she was lying? because prophets doesn't leave inheritence..right?
Zain606 2 years ago
And if she was lying for the sake of land..then thats means Prophet(PBUH) didn't teach her the right islam? right?.....By saying that it wasn't her property Abu baker proved that she was wrong...right? Now i will give u Fatwa...If she was wrong at that time..then None of you guys are right at this time because Its this daughter about whom Prophet(PBUH) said "If my own daughter would have steal anything i would have cut her hands"....
Zain606 2 years ago
Zain606 i feel pity for ur poor answer. Giving fadak was not a big issue for khalifa. How Muavia (RA) stopped him from giving fadak. Being a khalifa it was a simple two line order to relevant government authority to give fadak to children of Hazrat Fatima(RA). By not doing so Hazrat Ali (RA) proved by his act that what Abu Bakr (Ra) did was right.
shiakafirhai 2 years ago
Ali did not use Taqiyyah to deny ownership of Fadak. He states, that as Fadak was under the authority of the state, based on the decrees of the former Caliph Abu Bakr, Fadak during 'Ali's Caliphate came under the authority of 'Ali himself, and his two deputies, Imam al-Hasan and Imam al-Husayn, his sons.
Zain606 2 years ago
Zain606, do not distort history. If u don't have answer then accept it open heartedly. Fadak was estate property not personal property of Harzat Ali (RA), Harzat Hussain (RA) and Hazrat Hassan (RA). During Khilafat Hazrat Ali (RA) was administrator of it but not the owner. After his Khilafat the property remained with government.
If Ali (RA) had claim on it he should have transfered the ownership from estate to real owners. Contrary to this Ali (RA) did the same as other khulafa did.
shiakafirhai 2 years ago
Its this daughter about whom prophet(PBUH) said that she is part of my liver..Means fatima mere jiger ka tukra hai....So now if you are saying fatima wrong then You are saying prophet(PBUH) wrong because fatima(a.s) is part of prophet(PBUH).....Oyeee Kuch hayaaa karo....kuch sharm karo.....Yeh Khatoon-e-jannat hain....and her sons are masters(sardar) of people in jannat...Kuch sharam karo...Agar aisa hi believe raha tumhara then Mil gaye jannat tumhein....May God give u guys Hadaayet...
Zain606 2 years ago
zain if the Prophet Mohammed done peace, and then Bibi Fatima rda was not hungry for land and wanted peace, then why is it that the shia of today time are barking like dogs? Hazrat Abu bakar rda was also not hungry for the land, there is no proof that he used the land for his perosnal use but he used for Ummah and also provided share to Ahlul bayt!! please state facts not theories made by shia ayatollahs to get people emotional. All the Imams agreed with Abu baakr rda actions! but not Shia;s
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
hahaha...yeahh right...what do u know about imams? hmmm? who is 9th imam ? tell me without even google it...I am sure u don't know their names how can u know that they agreed....Listen....I know abu baker did what he thought right....and Fatima(a.s) did what she thought right.....She for sure showed us one thing by making this decision that....She was proved wrong by prophet(PBUH) companions....thats all she showed...
we are not barking lol..we are defending whats right and Haq will remain Haq.
Zain606 2 years ago
really, so you think i dont know the names of Imams, well let me tell you i dont just know the names of 12 imams I know the name of Imam Zaid, Imam Yahya, Imam Zakariya who were also from Ahlul bait but rejected by Shia's till recently. You are just monafiq, why talk bad of ABu Bakar rda when hazrat Ali rda also followed his decision and never took back fadak in his claiphate?? go and read your book Haq ul Yaqeen and read about the agreement of Fatima (as) and Abu bakar you lot are liars!
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
hahah those are not the imams i am talking about...i don't know which imam u brought in conversation......there are many books now...one book wrote by salman rushdi....he was muslim and wrote book about prophet(PBUH)...U gonna believe him too?...The thing is..U can't believe in every book and can't say its authentic and right....Who is liar and who is on right path...Let day of judgement decide it...its useless to argue on same issue i talked before with some other person on same video..bye
Zain606 2 years ago
Zaib bro you just answered you own theory, YOU SHOULD NOT BELIEVE IN ALL THE BOOKS!!!!... go and search the history regarding FADAK, BIBI Fatima rda did not hold grudge agaisnt ABu bakar rda, If companions done wrong then also the Imams of Ahlul abit done wrong, Imam Ali rda never returned fadak to Ahlul abit, Imam Hassan never done it or any other imam.. it is only shia theory that ZULM was done to Fatima (as), read your own Usole Kafi regarding the inhertience of Prophet, they leave none
jasimisbest2 2 years ago
Beautiful response by our Shia molauna... Subhan Allah!
sbh02 2 years ago
Imam Jaffer-e-Sadiq says ' do not do tabbarah(curse) openly infront of people who don't know or belive that these people were bad.'
smhark786 2 years ago
Since many sunnis here claim to be such lovers of Ahlul Bayt, what do you do to remember them? which mosque to do you go to to hear the tragedy of Karbala, when the Grandsons of the Prophet were martyred, because of muaviyah and yazeed? its? damn simple. You're either on the side of the prophet and his clan, or you're busy defending those who did such cruel injustice to them,like dropping the door on Fatima, she died at 18 yrs. also miscarried her baby, or even refused the Prophet's last wishes.
nazia2003 2 years ago
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21ksa0 2 years ago
Jeo Jan Ali shah Kazmi
khuda aap jesa Alim hum mai aam kare
AMEEN
muntazirmehdi90 2 years ago 9
بآسم الله الرحمان الرحيم ان الذين فرقوا دينهم وكانوا شيعا لست منهم من شئ إنما أمرهم إلى الله ثم ينبئهم بما كانوا يفعلون.
هو القادر على ان يبعث عليكم عذابا من فوقكم او من تحت أرجلكم او يلبسكم شيعا و يذيق بعظكم بآس بعظ
(الانبياء)
trinova1212 2 years ago
These Quranic verses, 6:159 and 6:65, apply to any school of thought whose followers think they are on right guidance but have no proof from the Quran and Sunnah.
They think that they have solid foundation but, upon scrutiny, its falsity can be demonstrated with clarity and conclusive evidence.
abinalpa 2 years ago
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A Shia Killed Sayyiduna Hussain:
To provide a solid proof of this fact (i.e. that Shimr was a Shia), we refer to the esteemed and classical Shia scholar, Al-Qummi. Al-Qummi, author of the famous book Mafaatihul-Jinaan, writes in his book: I say, Shimr was in the forces of Ameer al-Mumineen on the Day of Siffin. (Al-Qummi, Safinatun-Najaat, vol.4, p. 492, Chapter Sheen Followed by Meem).
Shimr lain was not only shia but also real nephew of umul banin, wife of ali.
MuhammadAhmad1 2 years ago
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All Prophets had to recognize and accept the Wilayat of Ali (meaning that Ali is Wali of Allah) before they were appointed as prophets. (Tareekh-e-Shia, p. 18)
Imam Ali ( R.A. ) was the creation of angel Jibreel (Gabriel). (Al-Majalis Al-Fakhra, p. 128)
An Imam is born from his mother's thigh (not from his mother's womb). (Ahsan-ul-Muqaal, Vol. 1, p. 325)
The Imams are NOT born like ordinary human beings from their mothers' wombs. (Jila-ul-A'yoon, Vol 2, p.474)
MuhammadAhmad1 2 years ago
if shia is wrong then why fatima s.a stop taiking with abo bakar after passed away of mohammad s.a.w until her dead or shahadat(reference sonni books tarikh tebrisi-) and why her crops was hidden from all muslim ummat....and ali a.s didnot permit abo bakar,umar & usman to pray namaz jinaza for fatima according of fatima s.a wassiyat...
sabzafaren 2 years ago 5
shias views about Nobel Quran:
1.) Not Completed.
(Usul Kafi 1:228/ Faslul Kitaab fi Tahrif. Kitaabi Raabul Arbaa of Nuri Tibarsi approved by Khomeni in ' Al- Hukumaat -ul-Islamiyaa")
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2.) Has 17,000 Aayats. (Usul Kafi P671)
3.) Our's has 6,666. (Usul Kafi P671)
4.) Abu Bakr's opposed the text of the Quraan.(Kashful Asraar P111.)
5.) Original Quraan with 12th Imaam Mahdi. (Usul Kafi 2-632)
MuhammadAhmad1 2 years ago
@sabzafaren go and search your own books it is written in there that Fatima rda spoke to ABu Bakar rda and also read your own shia books and you will see that it wasAbu Bakar rda that read Bibi Fatima Janaza, if the corpse was hidden then how come abu bakar rda read janaza, this is from your books... you are just liars.
jasimisbest2 1 year ago
Allah Huma salley Allah Muhammad Wa Aalay Muhammad Wa Ajjil Farajahum wa Laan Allah Hee Ada Hum Ajmaeen! YA ALI AS MADAD! ALI ALI AS MOMINEEN!!
niaaz 2 years ago 4
Salam
MrLurge 2 years ago 2
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The Shia say that Imam must be appointed by God; that appointment may be known through the declaration of the Prophet or the preceding Imam. The
Sunni scholars say that Imam (or Caliph, as they prefer to say) can be either elected, or nominated by the preceding Caliph, or selected by a committee, or may attempt to gain the power through a military coup (as was in the case of Muawiyah).
Then why this is not the case today? Why do all wahabi saudi kings have to be from the same bloodline?
SunniTerrorists 2 years ago
i aint disrespecting any1, i am jst telling every1 a fact which cannot denied by any one who think they are clever in the head.
and now sunni and shia are brothers, we cant change sunni to shia or shia to sunni so without any conflicts lets let the god jodg us by our deeds. instead of arguing over this id rather be a brother to sunni beleivers and protect islam even if it costs death.
skydeedaar11 2 years ago
guys just read the holy quran and read hadith of prophet, you will find out who is write and who is wrong,
sunni brovers r folwin da rong path, they hve no rspct for their shia brothers neither for the rest of the world.
they accept umar as their khalifah who insulted invaded prophit's ahlubayt's house and forced imam ali to vote for omar so omar could become a leader of islam.
Imam ali the was most intelegent man and the best person in the wold and the bravest and strongest man in the wolrd
skydeedaar11 2 years ago 4