WoW Cataclysm Guide - Cataclysm Mage Guide Part 2

[xXlogatorXx]

lolz :D

[saruda655]

Open with pyroblast still applies critical mass and more damage scorch only when critical mass runs out

[Winemonkey79]

I just want to thank you for making these Mage guide videos, they have all been so helpful, especially the Frost one, it really helped me out!

[raxomage]

OMFG!!! The : neeesssthheeeeaaahh sound at 07:31 is so fucking awesome!

[BohliiN1337]

Miss the old intros :(

[holyfingshit]

"What about if we start throwing a flame strike in there. Let's make it sassy."

ROFLMAO

[plumpamla]

thumbs up for the guy who whispered "Totalbiscuit ia a legend."

[cheffirich]

emphasize is wierd...

[SonyMicrosoft]

fuck hobbs

[gwe4367]

plz do a dk one

[joexer1]

@gwe4367 he isnt a dk

[TheBoyCB]

what is 333 gear?

[BloodRedHawk]

@TheBoyCB it's your average item level of your best equiptment

[TheSephiroth5]

TB,you made me a pro being fire by looking at your talent tree and watching how you use your rotation.Dont listen to em haters.You rock >:P

[HatebreederGaby]

Thank you so much for these vids man, been looking around for exactly what your showing.

[nexiee]

5:02 Look at chat. "Totalbiscuit is a legend" xD

[nexiee]

NO ADDS<3

[mrbananaflasher]

BUY YOUR SHAM-WOW TODAY, fuck advertisements

[joexer1]

Fuck the retarded horror movie ads

[LouLouPooPoo94]

I'd rather throw my phone in the bin now than fucking give it to cash for phones!

[TheAwesome123X]

SHAMWOW BITCHES!



[murtadah]

making a fire mage right after this video :D

[applegeek18]

new to the mage so need some help:

the way i see it is pvp = frost pve = fire and hardly anyone goes arcane ?, why, is frost poor damage or hard to play ?

[joexer1]

HI IT'D FINCE WITH SHAM WOW

[Scrontor]

great stuff, cheers

[mrpez01]

What about frostfirebolt? With the glyph you can get a minor dot with it and its almost the same as firebolt. Does it replace firebolt?

[Z4rifion]

VINCE

[DEATHTRICKTV]

danm u shamwow! we dont wont your free mop!!

[dosFING]

+ I DO NOT HAVE A PHONE SO THERE!

[dosFING]

next time i see a KIA i will smash it in vengeance for this.

[dosFING]

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[MrLivinAngel]

at 17:30 o 19:15 . ..were you counting ....just cuz you said you lasted  about 1min 45 secs and thats exactly how long you lasted...

[TheMorpher22]

Hi this is Vince with Shamwow! You'll be saying "Wow not this shit again" every time you see this commercial.

[cbcalp81]

@Drunkz101 hey genious without ads youtube makes no money which means no youtube...dont be stupid and think

[Altruology]

Whenever your talking during the middle of a fight, you sound like your making a recipe on the Food Network.

[nakul12593]

Ok, what about Impact in PVP??

[suparockr]

@nakul12593 take it, that's a stun shot stopping a cast and stopping them straight

[feped5ftheoriginal]

16:13 someone whispered hi and how great he is! :D

[GuitarNordli]

is it just me or dp mages got poor dps ?

[EpixBawokLoL]

@GuitarNordli its just u :P

[trolo750]

@nicholasbarnes stfu and die , TB is epic. He's got the best guides and a very informative daily show and his video's dont deserve the troll patrol commenting on them!

[nicholasbarnes]

@dragonsammy1 Haha this guy is excited about the smallest thing it's hilarious. Ps. Nice name retard

[nicholasbarnes]

such an annoying voice, if any mages wanting advice saw this now you've completly screwed them over

[dragonsammy1]

@nicholasbarnes Shut up bitch hes way fucking better then u will ever be

[Brambleclawd]

@nicholasbarnes In the first guide he said it may be useless once the game finished so stfu.

[tretst69]

LIke the video but it is sad that people have to make these videos for people lol

[MrKilbud]

Fire Mages FTW!!!! Trolls are awesome to but im an undead

[Ozo94]

@Drunkz101 i never get them

[TheBuugar]

Btw i have a trinket that benefits from the ffb dot so it realy usefull

[TheBuugar]

I dont know what hes talking about, i do fine dps with FFB

[MaximumProductions33]

warlocks are the best....

[roman11777]

@MaximumProductions33

Well, i wouldnt say they're the BEST. Even though my main toon is a lock.

All of the classes are epic.

[xLingyy]

@MaximumProductions33 all the races are awesome!!! xD

If your playing your having fun

[Huubke21]

Tnx alot for the replies. I will certainly go Fire, but you need a lot of crit for that, it looks the most fun though.

[Huubke21]

Is this still up to date, and usable for current patch?? I'm currently lvling my Mage up to be my second raiding char. And I'm looking for a good introduction to how to play the class optimal. I'm used to playing a Affli lock. Any tips are welcome ^^.

[maccusportugal]

@Huubke21 go fire, its much more versatile, u have good aoe and good single target, this video is wierd, cause fire doesnt lose mana if you learn how to play it.

[xLingyy]

meh i dont really care about the ads tbh...

[snakeeyesss11]

@Drunkz101 TotalHalibut make money out off the advertisements

[CorRoyal]

Just opened up all for parts in separate tabs.

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[MrMiracleJ]

@CorRoyal

lol xD I do that too and get the same thing - Mute ftw

[iSimonShow]

In the current state of the game (4.0.3) I like to pretty much do what you do but with a slight adjustment. When I know that dps is the way to go from the start of the fight i pop all my cooldowns as well as flame orb. Then open up with scroch and into living bomb. Spa fireball until i get a hotstreak and as soon as I cast pyroblast cast combustion. that way 4 dots will duplicate into combustion and do additional 4 dot damage

[roflolable]

TB i find that if u dont have improved hot streak you get it more well thats whats happens to me

[SoraEntity101]

Along with the shamwow you get a mop FREE! ...as long as you pay for it.

[cjrangi]

Hi just thought like most vids no are sortin out the lvl 80+ how about some vids for like lvl 50, 60, 70. Just to help us thru the early confusion with spec etc. That goes for all classes i mean . Great videos keep up the good work mate cheers for the help....

[pickle738]

I WANT TO BUY A SHAMWOW NOW!!!!!!!!!

[MegaShisno]

try 7/31/3 as your talent tree so yo u get rid of blast wave and flamestrike



[olov244]

i watched a vid of you running a frostfire spec in a heroic, any chance for an update? don't really like babysitting dots but the frostfire rotation looks much more fun

[hille32]

@olov244 excactly the same just FFB instead of FB

[devonstouch]

i think if u do run out of mana during a boss fight i would pop flame orb the cation so ur still doing some dps

[TheAdamprior]

what race is he?

and realm is he on

[Nauporu]

@TheAdamprior Troll mage beta

[DrummerBoiJake16]

@TheAdamprior He's clearly a troll...

[TheUselessVideosGuy]

lol at the fan wisping in the video XD

[BridK0]

i'm making a mage when I get my laptop fixed, can anyone tell me if you can just right click the glyph and place it on the spot you want? do you have to buy anything this is based on the live servers. thankyou :)

[SpoogeAFE]

@BridK0 you need to buy the actual glyph lol

[twigagawizard]

Why do people not use combustion?

[twigagawizard]

@twigagawizard My bad lol you said "now we're gonna take a look at combustion" right after I posted that comment

[magnusalexa]

fookin hell, i was gonna go buy cataclysm next week, after this guide im not gonna bother, taking hours to work out best rotation, what happens when ya rotatino gets nerfed, is it time for new guide,lol

[NazHunter]

@magnusalexa It doesnt take US hours, we just have to watch him, and then we know what we are doing. So like a 23 minute video and we can almost do optimum.

[TheCheshireCat667]

I'd be very interested in an update to this video now the expansion has gone live. As a long playing mage, I think there are a few mistakes found here. From current heroic experience, the mana issues aren't as severe as implied. only the 3 points in arcane need using in netherwind otherwise DO talent imp scorch. A lot of fights involve constant movement, and this allows you to never stop casting. Do take firestarter. Weave scorch occasionally between FB for mana conservation.

[TheCheshireCat667]

I wouldn't bother dropping flamestrike into a rotation other than a starting spell on static bosses, but these don't seem to be a common encounter in this expansion. Your rotation theory is nice, but to be honest you can't rotate it, as fire is a very fluid spec. It needs constant maintanence. I highly reccomend an addon called combustion helper for tracking your best time to drop it in. It flashes only when LB, Ignite, PB and critical mass are active, allowing optimum damage from the tick.

[AngelRoXieS14]

Wow! shamwow! amg

[lukeaspicer]

u do kno ffb switches to all ur targets when u use impact dude

[heythereman123]

So...does TotalHalibut usually play on PvE, or PvP?

[Medicinous]

if you want to show the rotation please get atleast hitcap so we can see the true dps

because it does matter if you miss that often

just had to say that

the rest of your guide was pretty nice tho

[MrQZWarrior]

@Medicinous  ur not paying attention to what he said. At the time he made the video there was only item lvl 333 gear and you werent able to be hit capped yet.

[wowlover16]

Woot! Thank you for the rotation for my fire mage. Guess my ol' one at lvl 60 w/ FS and BW is obsolete now. /sigh it was fun though!

[mastersam23]

im wondering if its worth it to stack mastery and use the frostfire glyph since you wont be getting too much crit at fresh 85

[Lukaszram]

@mastersam23

Just stack crit and mastery. Do not use frostfire bolt- yes it deals more dmg than fireball and has a nice DOT, but u can get a Fireball glyph which adds 5% crit to it and thats better as u got higher chance to get a Hotstreak. Fire is crit based and thats what u should focus on. Also, unlike in the video, every fire mage should use scorth more often to get fast-easy crits. it doesnt reduce ur dps much coz u get to cast 2 scortches in time of casting 1 fireball.

[p01s0nkid]

The house, the car, the boat, the RV

[atf99459]

fuck you vince you hooker beater

[p01s0nkid]

I love how you didn't reply to the adoring fan while filming

[nakul12593]

Dude great video, I love it. Thank you, thank you, thank you. All my questions have been answered Except for one on computers. If you can send me a message i will link you the one I want.

[imadethisaccat9pm]

SHUT THE FUCK UP VINCE NOBODY LISTENS TO ADDS ON YOUTUBE!

[e9reis1]

@TotalHalibut please explain me, I saw one video of you at The lost city of Tol'vir dungeon and u were using frostfire bolt and you were saying it was very good with the glyph and now I see this video and u say that the glyph is awful and u don't use it. tell me, what shall I use when cata comes out. :) thank you

[LifeandDeath130]

@e9reis1 there is alot of changes in beta...something can be good one day and worthless next

[Heihmax]

Can you make a pvp fire thing

[mikkizorr]

@skroten2 Caraclysm has alot of crazy stats on the armor so you will be seeing tank with 135k + even 150k+ hp and also i have seen fire,frost and arcane mages with 100k+ hp even rouges can have 120k+ hp :/ its just alot of crazy stats on the best items

[jonclee48]

@skroten2 cause he's level 85...Stamina has been increased on items and You get more health per point of stamina then you used too.

[FireButts15]

*ad plays*

*sit through this shit*

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*refresh*

*SAME FUCKING AD AGAIN.*

[DeadlySentimental]

@FireButts15 get adblocker. it works and its goood

[j800r]

@FireButts15 Then stop moaning about it and use a fucking adblocker! lol

[FireButts15]

@j800r

Yeah, i got one now. xD

[shankerzfromWoW]

how do u become a beata tester im trying to do public test and nothing is happing???

[madmen561]

20:14 lol look at chat box

[MrBrooksie420]

lmao to the wspr at 20:15 :)

[WorthyFail]

What casting bar are you using? Oh and thanks for the videos, I love mage but I don't like doing this hard working things out myself.

[Bowzer64]

@WorthyFail it's standard interface

[dorimajmun]

I LIKE YOUR DPS :O

[Terraline17]

Hello Totalbiscuit, I am a fair bit intrigued at your numbers.

Our level 80 mage as of 4.0.1 can roll over 20k dps but at 85 the numbers seem ALOT weaker. Did they nerf it or something?

[judgemanator]

SASSY!

[BigZno7no2]

Haha Emphasize

[ThaGameFreak]

Son of a Pig! xD

[gmanf150]

why didn't you answer to the pore guy

[HermannSmjormann]

why can't fire mages summon an fire element?

[judgemanator]

@HermannSmjormann cus it wasnt put in to the game u fucking idiot

[HermannSmjormann]

@judgemanator i know that i've played mage before. i mean that it would be cool if they would have put one in or at least have some companion for other than just frost mage

[ip1300canon]

Its amazing how much that dummy can take.. ( the wooden one, i mean)  :D

[isageri]

I MISS PLAYING WOW !!!!!!!

[MegaSlickone1]

im going fire/frost for pve fire just makes sense arcane is a joke now, or drop my mage and go boomkin ;-)

[Volem22]

Great Vid As Always

But what specs should I do for Cataclysm Mage pvp and Pve

Fire to me is a No-Brainer

But I'm doing dual spec so

Fire and Arcane or

Fire and Frost

Frost looks enjoyable and arcanes heavy damage

[catkingbirdlord]

@Volem22 hey i saw the qeuston about fire mage and frost im in the same perdicament im thinking ice for the elemental and the only move that you get from arcane is arucanwe barge so i think fire and ice

[danbell2005]

is this ken burton from machinima?

[personhater253]

@danbell2005 no

[MariaFoxmar]

Hi guys! I'm new at mage, so is this the best choice for a PVE/PVP mage?

[Andrew24769]

how do you make the action bars smaller?

[MRhelpinghand1]

@Andrew24769 Video settings and UI scale ;)

[Xaustidable]

im doing 7k DPS without any buffs on by doing...Living Bomb, Fireballx2, Scorchx3, Fireblast (if procs) or pyro (if procs) or repeat

[MrDeCiSiOnMaKeR92]

how did you get your second actionbar to have hotkeys?

[MorphinMan33]

@MrDeCiSiOnMaKeR92 You do at the key bindings menu

[Alexxx14a]

@MrDeCiSiOnMaKeR92 For the second actionbar go in settings -> Interface -> Actionbars.

[CommandoOne1]

Why are comments disabled on part 3?

[kosepose95]

what is the best/funiest pvp spec 4 mages now?

[warlockhunte89]

fire orb is lvl 81

[xRICHMONx]

New Talent system came out a couple days ago, i followed your spec for Fire mage and my DPS shot from 4k to 6k Thanks man

[hatebush1234]

lets make it sassy :D

[PhoeniXYZ]

Wow, I hope they will change this. I am doing higher damage with my lvl 80 mage on 4.0.1 live.

[DrakeSteel23]

Can someone link me a really good guide on how to get the most dps as a fury warrior it would really help

[Blowthat22]

I just want to Say Thanks for everything.

about the PvE tips . I agree its going to depend on the mana% / items a bit

But I think the talents for the fire/Arcane pve spec's you have chosen is what I would have also do.

ummm And It feels good to watch this video, atleast to have someone (smart imo) is talking about the talents.

good luck

[lilnoise17]

totalbiscut your the best, but i hate how you hate gnomes... i love them, my favorite since 2005 and your a pve, also dislike, because yuour choice of talents was dreadful ill make a gnome mage and show your ass how its done, tell me your realm, and mains name

[lilnoise17]

question for mage experts, when do you get fireorbs(wat lvl)

[JunkyVirus]

@lilnoise17

Doesn't really take a expert to tell you, open your spellbook and go to the firespells and look where Fireorb is and you'll see what lvl you get it, think it's like 83 or something

[lilnoise17]

@JunkyVirus thanks

[JunkyVirus]

What's the best rotation for a lvl 50 mage ?

Been a while since a played my Mage and wanted to pick him up again, but I've just lost it all :P Hahah

So need help :P

[ramirezthesilvite]

This would be great for me, but the live 4.0.1 doesn't quite match this Beta preview. Fireball and Molten Armor are Major, not Prime apparently, and there are only two fire based Prime glyphs for mages: Pyroblast and Living Bomb. Bit of a head scratcher.

[personhater253]

@ramirezthesilvite my optimal guess would be mage armor as urthird prime. happy hunting for it :D

[ramirezthesilvite]

@personhater253 thats what i ended up going with, yeah lol It was pretty much the only option. Frost is harder to glyph though...

[Pinoscotto4ever]

this video is too slow ... why you don't use a mouse so we can see what power are you casting??.... please (this for all who want to make a video) skip chatting and go to feats and talents and let us see the advantages to use a build fire instead of frost

[slaygtherazerman]

@Pinoscotto4ever You didn't seriously just write "what power are you casting"....did you? >_<

And believe it or not, he actually says - yes with words - which "power" he's casting. As for the apparent slowness, skip the video forward lol.

[sebastianave]

@Pinoscotto4ever

This is an opinionated guide. There is a why we watch TotalBiscuit's videos, that is for the opinion and the humor he adds into them.

[EliasOwnage95]

i love how u can dps very good and explain everything exactly at the time while doing it

[daisrecords]

14:35 "Let's make it sassy."

[RynthFeathermoon]

can you redo the glyph guide , some of them have changed in patch like some primes are now major

[magvol123]

jeez at all the retards whispering him in all the videos. im glad im not "famous". i'd rage at EVERYONE whispering me

[vlasisgiaginis]

Blast Wave...

Nzzzzzzeaaazzzip

Made me giggle :P

[bestgamer2112]

SO CONFUSING! that rotation is so confuzing

[GamingTrance]

what kinda bags are you using?

[Camberae]

@GamingTrance Them's look like the new 24 slot bags that us tailor's will be able to make after a couple of mastery's are completed..I can't wait till I can make em'!

[EvilDead1092]

Putting Frostfire bolt in your rotation is an absolute must, casting FFB will put a DoT on the target that benefits from your mastery, which in turn increases your DPS.

With that being said, Glyphing FFB might be something to consider, since its in your rotation, the 15% increase to the damage makes it compete with Fireball's damage, and the DoT benefits from mastery.

Fire spec rotation, as I see it;

Scorch -> LivB -> FFBx3 -> Fireball (with pyro hotstreak proc) Refreshing DoTs when Needed.

[Yoshitsune5]

@EvilDead1092 so does ffb not proc hotstreak? sorry its been awhile since I have played the game

[randomher012]

I fear a wave of offense coming my way, and there is a very good chance I missed an important announcement somewhere along the line (I try and keep track of Cata annoucements) but doesn't this DPS seem extremely low for level 85?

[randomher012]

@randomher012 even keeping in mind the missing hit and buffs.

[omfgwtfrofllollmao]

in the public test realm with a premade lvl 80 mage, i used the imp scorch and molten armor talents because it looked fun

not only was it fun, i pulled 7k dps spamming scorch and only keeping living bomb up

unless a lot is different from what i did just messing around, infinite mana with a scorch spamming build seems a lot better

[Feragore]

@omfgwtfrofllollmao Theres a blue post confirming that scorch is better than fireball on beta and needs to change. It's the base mana increase to make healers care for mana now yet seems like the DPS are suffering instead :P

[DeMarki81]

I don't understand how come you chose Cauterize over Improved Scorch for PVE. :)

[randomher012]

@DeMarki81 Because a dead mage does 0 DPS