@A31Chris The Nerd sent his Jaguar CD unit to an input specialist - the one who makes Nintoasters - and even he couldn't get The Nerd's Jaguar CD to work!
@antster1983 most jaguar units do work, the latch that keeps the lid down and allows the cd to operate is under a bit more stress than it should be, its not unusual, for these to sheer.
ive repaired the same small latch part twice then made a stronger replacement part myself.
but alot of the jaguar cd's can be used with a very simple repair or a heavy book on top of the unit to push the cd lid down far enough to engage the system.
apart from the latch problem its a very good unit.
@antster1983 not seen the kind of laser aligment problems with the dreamcast (also very common and easy to repair)
since there was only 20,000 of these units ever made, the amount still in use and pop up on ebay as well (at a very high price), is a testement to how sturdy these units are.
the only problem with the jag cd is a tiny plastic latch, not hard with some basic tools to make a replacement.
i replaced the spring as well to reduce the tension pulling on the latch when closed
" transparent shadows "? were you on drugs like sam tramiel when he said the jaguar was more powerful that playstation? jaguar couldn't handle real time lighting.
genesis super hang on was better than super burnout. easilly. genesis outrun blows jaguar chekered flag AND this piece of crap! wanna talk about decent framerate?
lets talk about batman returns sega cd!
texture mapping? sonic CD.i bought a jaguar cd from a pawn shop for 5 bucks cuz it is a toilet and u put crap when u raise the lid!
@VERONICAMARTINEZ5555 Actually Hoverstrike features real time lighting, so there's that. Also, saying Super Hang On is superior to Super Burnout is pure ignorance and fanboy pandering. It is technically superior and features deeper gameplay. Just because you like Super Hang On more means nothing.
Also Sonic CD isn't texture mapped. The "3D" stages are composed of rotated sprites to give the illusion of a flat plane.
You clearly know nothing about either console so please stop.
@VERONICAMARTINEZ5555 Don't be ignorant. WTR has a better draw distance, texture mapping, transparent shadows and a lot of other things Virtua Racing didn't have. I love that game to the end of the earth but saying that it looks better is just ignorance.
really thats a spot on, nintendeo n64 made the same mistake and nintendeo instantly lost most of its market share to sony.
the problems is capasity and price, cartridges could not ever come anywhere near the capasity or price of a cd.
atari realised early on, but by the time the cd attachment was released it was too late.
but some great games did come out on cartridge, games like doom, wolfenstein and alien vs predator, were the best that had ever came out for that time
friendly bees you are completely wrong i have both consules, i have both manuals, and both clearly show a 68xx motorola chip.
the 68xx in the saturn is linked to the yamaha sound chip.
the 68xx in the jaguar is what they call a master chip, for low level administraton.
it is clear the problem with both machines with programming their multiple chip setups, ment we never saw a fracton of what both consules were truely capable off, and the ease of using the 68xx ment lots of low quality titles
The video game scene didn't have smooth polygon racers until the real 32 bit era hit with the Saturn and PSone. If you want a fast and smooth racer on the Jag then get Super Burnout. I don't think the Jag got the quality games for the most part because the developers were off making games for Sega and Nintendo at the time. I think we could've seen better with the right companies behind it in the beginning but the hardware was old news by 1995.
@cant1rac ?? The Motorola 68xxx line of chips are awesome chips. The SAturn didn't have a 68xxx though, it had a couple of Hitachi processors. The Jaguar had two 32bit processors, but not two 64bit processors. Bits dont make a machine though, the PS was 32bit. If the Jaguar CD addon enhanced the Jaguars capabilities comparable to the Playstation then it would have done very well
@friendlybees You are right about the two Hitachi provessors in the Sega Saturn, but it also contains a Motorola 68EC000 sound processor. Take a look at wikipedia for the Atari Jaguar though, it has five processors not two. Object processor and Blitter are indeed 64 bit, where the other three are 32 bit.
wolfenstein (best version) doom (smoothest game play) alien vs predator (best fps of its time) phase zero, myst, theme park, battles sphere, syndicate, battlemorph, powerdrive (best version) cannon fodder, theme park, flashback, rayman, tempest 2000, worms, missle command 3d, i-war, sensible soccor, raiden & more
When you think how mant great games there are for a system that failed so quickly its actual impressive, sad thing is it failed before it really began
Well if you're talking about Virtua Racing for the Genesis, than it also had the SVP, a co-processor that added an additional $40-$50 to the game's price. Technically, the Jaguar outclasses the 16-bit systems... but the power just wasn't taken advantage of for the most part due to problems with programming/hardware and sometimes just sheer laziness on a developer's part. I have no doubt VR is a better playing game, because that's Sega's pedigree after all.
@autioooo Wow were you even old enough to remember when this game system was out?? The jaguar came out in 93 .... yes and was going when the Sega Genesis and Super Nintendo were kings of the video game world. Virtua Racing was probably NOT better. I own a copy of that game and it looks close to this but doesn't run as fast and the graphics are slightly better here.
@SauceCaptain This game is way more choppy. And what are you talking about, Virtua Racing's gameplay is much faster. Try the 32X or Saturn version. You'll see.
graphics remind me of Microprose F1 on the Amiga, which I still play. Yup how sad lol. I'd give this a bash, wouldn't mind a Jaguar on top of the 3DO in me set up.
I mean no disrespect to the Jaguar fans out there, but man they really didn't get this game running as good as they could. I mean if they got Virtua Racing working on the Genesis even without the 32X they should have been able to do better than this. Maybe it's just the vid. They did get other games running fantastic like Doom, Wolfenstein and Tempest 2000...just not this.
@bobbystar101 I miss my Falcon and Jag. I would love to see the power of a Jag overclocked to 3.2Ghz which is the same clock speed as the 360 and PS3. :-)
I remember playing this game and editing the levels so that the only scenery would be grass and all textures would be removed- all to increase the frame rate. Shame, that.
despite the fact that Nintendo 64 has a way better graphic than Jaguar, but I must say Jaguar's sound effect is excellent, especially for a video game console which was first introduced in 1994.
you got a point.but remember,nintendo 64 had bettter graphics cause it was made much later than jaquar.this shit came out in 1993 when nintendo still had thier little 16 bit super nintendo.the closest super nintendo could get to this game was starfox.and even taht was really hard to do.
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OMG , JAGuar for sure was a shit. look at that poor graphisc, the animation is like 6fps per second !For the money you could afford the Jag, i think it is the WORLD's NR. 1 worst console EVER. Jag was just a sh.. 64 bits !? wow, hahahahahaha
Wow, it was made in 1994, low grade graphics for 2010, go figure. You must not have been born in that great era of video gaming innovation it was at that time.
Jaguar and 3DO are just two systems that never should've come out as they were.
Playstation showed what was really possible, and looked like a real next generation system when the 3DO and Jaguar looked like an upgrade from what was done with SuperFX and DSP chips.
the Jaguar had a Blitter 64-bit RISC architecture, it was the jaguars GPU that was 32-bit.
the N64 on the other hand had a 64 bit chip but almost all of its games were only able to use 32 bit as the rest of the systems hardware was inadequite to deal with the extra load of 64 bit processing.
I personally don't know if that is true or not, but from an article i read about the n64 there were big problems with getting the software to use the full capabilities of the cpu.
but also quite interestingly there were two mode for the gpu one where the system could accurately do 100,000 polygons a sec and one where it could do 500,000 not so accurately and because of that Nintendo recommended that developers not use that.
that is more true with the jag, i notice that a majority of n64 exclusives look better than any ps1 game, conker's bad fur day looks like it could be a dreamcast game
I personnaly dont think thats true, i acctually think the ps was a better machine because the difference in the media used for the storage of game, because the PS used CD's its textures were of a much higher quality and so was the sound, as in early PS games they used CD audio. but the N64 had poor textures and in some cases used solid colour and low quality audio because of the limited storage of cart's and power of the consoles ability to handle textures.
it doesn't matter either way, how many bits doesn't have shit to do with anything, the N64 was simply more powerful and could handle 3D better, end of story. Both were shit compared to CD systems IMO, Goldeneye/Perfect Dark are pretty much the only games I can really enjoy on the N64.
Ever played Mario Kart 64 with four friends and a little green tea? Fun you shall never know I guess...In fact Extreme G just 1 player was also mad, and Turok and....ok so I'm a fan of N64.
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wow. green tea? please commit hara-kiri you wapanese retard. Mario Kart 64 is gay, the SNES version was way better, but all of them are fanboy bullshit. Turok is almost the worst game ever made. If you wanted to defend the N64, why not Pilotwings, Wave Race, Smash Bros, or Conker's Bad Fur Day? fail.
Ha ha, I see your quite agressive. You may be sexually fustrated. I have the games you mentioned, that's also what I ment by '...' Chill out man or go look for a fight else where. Saying Turok was bad dosn't say much for you either, It was ground breaking for console fps back then. Wave race was not as good as Extreme G overall IMO, even though it had greater gameplay, but they are all "fanboy bullshit" anyway? So come on then, curse me on YouTube again then? Actaully I'm not interested. C ya
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sexually frustrated? me? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're the one arguing endlessly about the N64 on the internet and actually admit to drinking green tea. The fact alone that you have Jesus in your SN automatically means you're retarded anyway, so I don't see why there's any reason to continue this discussion. Turok...groundbreaking? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
it wasn't the console that sucked it was the games were poor ports of already existing games, and the one or two games that were specifically developed for the platform were unimaginative and poorly developed. the console it's self was capable of alot more.
good consoles can dye too, dreamcast was the closest thing to having an arcade machine in your own home yet when it release people didn't want arcade games they wanted realistic sim's and challenging games not dumbed down arcade rehashes.
I think the N64 was the best at showing what a next generation system was capable of. Most PSX and Saturn games looked like polished up Jag and 3DO games. This game looks almost as good as a typical PSX F1 racing game but the framerate is just terrible.
The N64's muddy textures were hardly mind blowing, though of course many of the titles were great. I lump N64 with Saturn/PSX, with Dreamcast being the first real "high resolution" system. The jump from the N64 to the DC was incredible at the time.
This game is really nice and hey people, although it was released, it was just a work in progress bought by telegames from Atari. Maybe the "final" version would have been a bit better, but we never will know that, nor do we know what the Jaguar really was capable to do. It´s a great machine with a large amount of averagely ported 16-bit games and some really great Jaguar games which were closer to PS1 games as most of you think ;)
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I feel sorry for all the suckers who wasted big bucks on this back in the day when it first launched only to realise what a pile of steaming shit it really is
You take AVGN's reviews seriously? O_O Maybe you don't know but they're just for entertainment. They aren't to be taken for granted. Sure, Some things he says are true but he also has to make other things up.
I have an Atari Jaguar, although i only have 2 games for it (Cybermorph and Doom). A friend and i played Cybermorph almost to the end, it was a horrid experience and when i see other games running just as bad as Cybermorph i know my initial thoughts on the Jaguar being a piece of shit were infact true. Only thing that's good about this is the sound quality but that's to be expected from a game running off a disc
JAg wasn't all that bad. What it really comes down to is lack of software support and knowing the hardware. Had the Jag had more 3rd party support I feel it would have done better. The graphics were on par with the 32X at least and the sound was a little better but it goes to show you can have a powerful machine but if you don't know how to use it then its just useless. Like having a powerful racing car with 1000HP but you don't know how to drive a stick.
The fact that Atari could either lie or delude itself enough to try to make people think this was actually better than the Playstation (or even 3DO) is pitiable.
I bought one of these back in the day, with Club Drive and Alien Vs. Predator. It went back to the store the very next day. Truly one of the worst consoles ever made (IMHO of course).
Club Drive was one of the worst games on the system but AvP was the best game on the system and better than most games on the Playstation for a long time. It was a classic and way ahead of its time. Why on Earth would you return your Jaguar on account of that game? Especially back then?
And it certainly was better than the 3DO, were youe ven around during those times? It outsold the 3DO and consistantly outranked it when it camer to consumer and professional reviews.
Being the best on the Atari Jaguar is like being the best student in the "special" class.
At the time I already had Doom running on a 486 and the PSX began advertising in the U.S.
There was just no contest. To be fair, Tempest 200 was great in every regard, but Atari didn't even come close to any kind of good design in any of the games for it. They felt more like Atari 2600 games with better graphics than anything next gen at the time. Playstation was a true leap forward.
Tempest 2000 was great, but my point is that nobody around that time would have been turned off by Alien VS Predator. It was a technical marvel for consoles at the time, even by Playstation standards. Sure it may have been on a poorly managed and scarcely supported system, but it was and is one hell of a game no matter what platform it originated on.
To each his own, I guess. I don't know why you seem to be questioning my opinion, being as it is only my opinion.
Of course I remember the 3DO, I was 18 when it came out. I remember being much more impressed with Crash N' Burn than anything on the Jag. Add to that, anyone at the time that played Doom smoothly on a 486 (like myself) would have been underwhelmed by AVP's 15 fps.
Opinions aren't beyond reproach. I just took exception with AvP being lumped with Club Drive as some awful game. I wouldn't want someone who is uninformed to think AvP wasn't the accomplishment that it was, I prefer good games get their recognition, that is all.
Well, reproachful of my opinion or not, I was disappointed with it. Atari's Jag games showed a lack of polish in general compared to even 16 bit consoles of the day.
Yeah I'm "lying" about videogames. After you seek anger management, you need to check the facts. NO WAY did 3DO sell 2 million units when it had only sold around 300,000 when the Playstation and Saturn launched and died shortly afterwards. The 3DO has a horrid launch and only sold 30,000 out of an expected 100,000 while the Jaguar sold out on launch day. The 3DO was never criticially acclaimed because of its outrageous pricetag and limited software and the Jaguar was never "overrated". lol
I still remenber reading all the reports back then of consumers returning 3DO units mere days after purchase as they quickly realised what an incredably expensive mistake they had made believing all the hype and advertising! Nearly all the screenshots shown were of cutscenes if I remember rightly!
its a shame , I think if Atari had just called it the Jaguar or at the very most Atari jaguar 32, as only one of the two chips (tom) was used for the graphics the other(jerry) was mostly for the sound, but at the strange time of release gamers & the trade were going nuts about "bits"
man i swear thats not even running at 5fps. a lot of people say that jag didnt show its full power on most of the games , well i would like to see a game were they did show full 64 bit power
I'll wonder what the kid who bought this CD-ADDON years ago, and shelled out $60 for this game thought when he popped it in and played it. He said to himself, "......this is what I bought a whole new JAG CD unit for????"
ingenious frame rate ... man i don`t know why atari just fucked this thing up ... a terrible controller, terrible games (except AVP, Tempest 2000 and Cannon Fooder) and a terrible marketing ...
What's happening at 1:19??? Maybe the wool from his socks is causing a rash around his ankles and he's itching it in his driver's seat. I do that sometimes. ;)
VR had more polygons and textures?, VR had much less polygons and no textures, seeems that u forgot how was VR. Tecnicaly this console was much better than the Genesis and equal or better than the 32x
I am not sure about that it is not only about graphic but also about gameplay and VR was a better game i agree on that but this game has better graphics. Technically Jaguar CD was Maybe a little better than Sega CD or equally Good as Sega CD. 32X was technically higher but the games didn`t showed that at all.
Actually, if you notice, there is textured graphics, the music is better, and the graphics overall are more complex than the Genesis. But since i haven't played either game, i don't know how each is in terms of gameplay.
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omg 3d graphics at the beginning videos. How could they render that, and why didn't they put the 3d graphics in the game. My guess is that the videos were being rendered for like a day and a game console couldn't render the picture on the fly if the game had a 3d engine.
Anyone played Vroom on the mighty Amiga? That is a crackin' racing game, and much much faster than even this game, and on a 16 bit home computer too, although this does look nice, but like some have already said it's a bit slow compared to other racers of the time.
For 1996, this isn't bad but certainly isn't great. Formula 1 on the PS1 was just around the corner and that was fully licensed and was a lot smoother. Pity about the bug it had where you team mate would pit every lap after a certain period during the championship. That was fixed later on.
Back on the main subject though, it's still a massive step forward over Checkered Flag
Awesome soundtrack!
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Looks worse than checkered flag (just the graphics)
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TheRedCoke 4 weeks ago
Was anyone else disturb by the lady melting into the development company logo. Man for some reason that freaked me out.
fireheartis1 4 months ago
Lee Briggs did a pretty good job for being his first time working on the Jaguar, alone with no help from Atari. Excellent work Lee.
A31Chris 6 months ago
Wow! You had a working Jaguar CD unit? Even the Angry Video Game Nerd couldn't find one of those!
antster1983 6 months ago
@antster1983 Jaguar CD units work fine if you're not retarded.
A31Chris 6 months ago
@A31Chris The Nerd sent his Jaguar CD unit to an input specialist - the one who makes Nintoasters - and even he couldn't get The Nerd's Jaguar CD to work!
antster1983 6 months ago
@antster1983 He was obviously retarded too.
A31Chris 6 months ago
@antster1983 Is the AVGN The Master Of Collecting or something? Like if he can't find something, you may as well just give up?
MrCumstein 3 months ago
@antster1983 most jaguar units do work, the latch that keeps the lid down and allows the cd to operate is under a bit more stress than it should be, its not unusual, for these to sheer.
ive repaired the same small latch part twice then made a stronger replacement part myself.
but alot of the jaguar cd's can be used with a very simple repair or a heavy book on top of the unit to push the cd lid down far enough to engage the system.
apart from the latch problem its a very good unit.
cant1rac 1 month ago
@antster1983 not seen the kind of laser aligment problems with the dreamcast (also very common and easy to repair)
since there was only 20,000 of these units ever made, the amount still in use and pop up on ebay as well (at a very high price), is a testement to how sturdy these units are.
the only problem with the jag cd is a tiny plastic latch, not hard with some basic tools to make a replacement.
i replaced the spring as well to reduce the tension pulling on the latch when closed
cant1rac 1 month ago
ItsCoolFromSaturn, I invite you to come to foreamosDOTforoactivoDOTcom in the VIDA DIGITAL section so we can discuss the Jaguar there.
it's a forum in spanish but there is no problem if we write in english.
Please use your original ID so I can know for sure it is you.
SEE you there!
VERONICAMARTINEZ5555 7 months ago
" transparent shadows "? were you on drugs like sam tramiel when he said the jaguar was more powerful that playstation? jaguar couldn't handle real time lighting.
genesis super hang on was better than super burnout. easilly. genesis outrun blows jaguar chekered flag AND this piece of crap! wanna talk about decent framerate?
lets talk about batman returns sega cd!
texture mapping? sonic CD.i bought a jaguar cd from a pawn shop for 5 bucks cuz it is a toilet and u put crap when u raise the lid!
VERONICAMARTINEZ5555 8 months ago
@VERONICAMARTINEZ5555 Actually Hoverstrike features real time lighting, so there's that. Also, saying Super Hang On is superior to Super Burnout is pure ignorance and fanboy pandering. It is technically superior and features deeper gameplay. Just because you like Super Hang On more means nothing.
Also Sonic CD isn't texture mapped. The "3D" stages are composed of rotated sprites to give the illusion of a flat plane.
You clearly know nothing about either console so please stop.
ItsCoolFromSaturn 8 months ago
Looks pretty good. The level seems to be chugging at less than 10 fps but the car looks smoothly animated. Not bad
noSW3AT1 9 months ago
ha ha ha ha!!! Virtua Racing for Genesis megadrive looks better!
VERONICAMARTINEZ5555 10 months ago
@VERONICAMARTINEZ5555 Don't be ignorant. WTR has a better draw distance, texture mapping, transparent shadows and a lot of other things Virtua Racing didn't have. I love that game to the end of the earth but saying that it looks better is just ignorance.
ItsCoolFromSaturn 8 months ago
Wow. These are great graphics! Even for 1994!
superjonesbros789856 10 months ago
If the Jag could do this level of textured polys without the need for a CD add-on, it might have actually sold decent numbers.
BudzMcgr33n 1 year ago
@BudzMcgr33n
really thats a spot on, nintendeo n64 made the same mistake and nintendeo instantly lost most of its market share to sony.
the problems is capasity and price, cartridges could not ever come anywhere near the capasity or price of a cd.
atari realised early on, but by the time the cd attachment was released it was too late.
but some great games did come out on cartridge, games like doom, wolfenstein and alien vs predator, were the best that had ever came out for that time
cant1rac 1 year ago
At least shadows are better then in GT5...
useless1997 1 year ago
This is very good, fast and responsive, albeit fps seems slow, this game manages to achieve the sense of speed.
M1XART 1 year ago
bits do make a machine, put a 128bit graphics card into your pc, compared with a 256bit gpu, there will be a huge difference.
they dont label consules in bit know, cause of the confused and illiterate state of users
a jag hasnt a 64bit cpu its 32bit as is a saturn ps2 a xbox or a dreamcast.
64bit refers to its bus chanel and graphical bus width.
as in any other consule.
jaguar is a full blooded 64bit graphical system, and one off the few whos, cpu bit rate (32 x2) can match its gpu bit rate
cant1rac 1 year ago
Actually looks great!
TheFunkyBones 1 year ago
friendly bees you are completely wrong i have both consules, i have both manuals, and both clearly show a 68xx motorola chip.
the 68xx in the saturn is linked to the yamaha sound chip.
the 68xx in the jaguar is what they call a master chip, for low level administraton.
it is clear the problem with both machines with programming their multiple chip setups, ment we never saw a fracton of what both consules were truely capable off, and the ease of using the 68xx ment lots of low quality titles
cant1rac 1 year ago
The video game scene didn't have smooth polygon racers until the real 32 bit era hit with the Saturn and PSone. If you want a fast and smooth racer on the Jag then get Super Burnout. I don't think the Jag got the quality games for the most part because the developers were off making games for Sega and Nintendo at the time. I think we could've seen better with the right companies behind it in the beginning but the hardware was old news by 1995.
ViciousAlienKlown 1 year ago
that teave logo is really cool!
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cant1rac 1 year ago 2
@cant1rac ?? The Motorola 68xxx line of chips are awesome chips. The SAturn didn't have a 68xxx though, it had a couple of Hitachi processors. The Jaguar had two 32bit processors, but not two 64bit processors. Bits dont make a machine though, the PS was 32bit. If the Jaguar CD addon enhanced the Jaguars capabilities comparable to the Playstation then it would have done very well
friendlybees 1 year ago
@friendlybees You are right about the two Hitachi provessors in the Sega Saturn, but it also contains a Motorola 68EC000 sound processor. Take a look at wikipedia for the Atari Jaguar though, it has five processors not two. Object processor and Blitter are indeed 64 bit, where the other three are 32 bit.
rudiangath 1 year ago
jaguar had some astounding tiles:
wolfenstein (best version) doom (smoothest game play) alien vs predator (best fps of its time) phase zero, myst, theme park, battles sphere, syndicate, battlemorph, powerdrive (best version) cannon fodder, theme park, flashback, rayman, tempest 2000, worms, missle command 3d, i-war, sensible soccor, raiden & more
When you think how mant great games there are for a system that failed so quickly its actual impressive, sad thing is it failed before it really began
cant1rac 1 year ago
I owned this terrible blight on the video game world its slightly better than checkered Flag but not by much.
superzapper 1 year ago
genisis had 1/4 of bits the jaguar. . .but genisis had faster polygon processing better shading, and even better FRAMERATE!
bradthegeeknet 1 year ago
@bradthegeeknet
Well if you're talking about Virtua Racing for the Genesis, than it also had the SVP, a co-processor that added an additional $40-$50 to the game's price. Technically, the Jaguar outclasses the 16-bit systems... but the power just wasn't taken advantage of for the most part due to problems with programming/hardware and sometimes just sheer laziness on a developer's part. I have no doubt VR is a better playing game, because that's Sega's pedigree after all.
dunnono00 1 year ago
@dunnono00 yes, it was just like super mario kart, star fox; they required the super fx chip that kinda acts like the svp for the genisis :p
bradthegeeknet 1 year ago
compare this to F-1 World Grand Prix on the N64
maniaco200 1 year ago
Did this game make up for the slop that was Checkered Flag?? Because this doesn't look all that good. How does it control?
dogeymon83 1 year ago
Is this realtime fps?
RenegadeFury 1 year ago
i love the level of detail on the cd's themselves... the cd artwork is incredible!
deadline27 1 year ago
Damn, check out that blazing fast frame rate! I think this game is actually pushing 8fps!
NightDragon2383 1 year ago
Probably Virtua Racing by Sega for his 32X was better.
Atari Jaguar really sucks at the time.......64 bit my ass....
autioooo 1 year ago
@autioooo Wow were you even old enough to remember when this game system was out?? The jaguar came out in 93 .... yes and was going when the Sega Genesis and Super Nintendo were kings of the video game world. Virtua Racing was probably NOT better. I own a copy of that game and it looks close to this but doesn't run as fast and the graphics are slightly better here.
SauceCaptain 1 year ago
@SauceCaptain virtua racing for GENESIS was better than this
deadline27 1 year ago
@SauceCaptain This game is way more choppy. And what are you talking about, Virtua Racing's gameplay is much faster. Try the 32X or Saturn version. You'll see.
Sisound 1 year ago
graphics remind me of Microprose F1 on the Amiga, which I still play. Yup how sad lol. I'd give this a bash, wouldn't mind a Jaguar on top of the 3DO in me set up.
zigzagtoes 1 year ago
I've seen some garbage for the Jaguar before. but hell this is pretty good considering the year this game out. im quite impressed.
scr99n 1 year ago
@scr99n What? This game was released in 1997.
ItsCoolFromSaturn 1 year ago
the best game for the jag graphicly simply amazing...awsome video!
atomicgamer95 1 year ago
can't believe it.... 1994. 1995 --> wipeout on ps1. I mean, compared to wipeout: it sucks
Xphazon 1 year ago
I mean no disrespect to the Jaguar fans out there, but man they really didn't get this game running as good as they could. I mean if they got Virtua Racing working on the Genesis even without the 32X they should have been able to do better than this. Maybe it's just the vid. They did get other games running fantastic like Doom, Wolfenstein and Tempest 2000...just not this.
Snotnarok 1 year ago
definitely cd games in jaguar were so much better that cartridge jaguar games
uudrakgvens94 1 year ago
What a hell!!! While two pilots are fighting for the 1st place, another one is jerking off inside the car on the pit (1:18)!!
heberthybr 1 year ago
@heberthybr ....maybe that was his way of preparation....maybe...
179107199999 1 year ago
guys stop arguing, atari jaguar was older than n64 and ps1 stupid people
gamezonic 1 year ago
Clearly this only uses the 68000, I've seen better graphics pulled off more smoothly on the Falcon without using DSP.
bobbystar101 1 year ago
@bobbystar101 I miss my Falcon and Jag. I would love to see the power of a Jag overclocked to 3.2Ghz which is the same clock speed as the 360 and PS3. :-)
meowmmmmm 1 year ago
Frame rate isn't just low. Its unacceptable.
Imgema 1 year ago
Oh ! If only the Atari Jaguar was capable to have a nice Frame rate, that game would be awesome!
nicolunacba 1 year ago
I remember playing this game and editing the levels so that the only scenery would be grass and all textures would be removed- all to increase the frame rate. Shame, that.
atarian2049 1 year ago
despite the fact that Nintendo 64 has a way better graphic than Jaguar, but I must say Jaguar's sound effect is excellent, especially for a video game console which was first introduced in 1994.
abc2390986 1 year ago
you got a point.but remember,nintendo 64 had bettter graphics cause it was made much later than jaquar.this shit came out in 1993 when nintendo still had thier little 16 bit super nintendo.the closest super nintendo could get to this game was starfox.and even taht was really hard to do.
lionkingfan 1 year ago
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OMG , JAGuar for sure was a shit. look at that poor graphisc, the animation is like 6fps per second !For the money you could afford the Jag, i think it is the WORLD's NR. 1 worst console EVER. Jag was just a sh.. 64 bits !? wow, hahahahahaha
spajsboyz 2 years ago
Wow, it was made in 1994, low grade graphics for 2010, go figure. You must not have been born in that great era of video gaming innovation it was at that time.
Moshm4n 2 years ago 11
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AlephNeil 10 months ago
@spajsboyz Wow you must have been such a bitter person back in 1993 when the JAGUAR WAS NEW AND THE BEST GRAPHICS AVAILABLE. DUH...
You dumbshit (lol cant believe you thought this was a brand new console or something lmao)
mynameisleeyesitis 1 year ago
lol poor MC68000 ;p
GroovyMango 2 years ago
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This should be the worst racing game in the jag and not the "best" one.
SrRocknRoll 2 years ago
Was it really that choppy ?
johnnyxsi 2 years ago
Honestly, this game looks decent, and could be fun. The only problem I have with it and other jag games is the slow ass frame rate
supernorst 2 years ago 3
As far as I can see, the main problem with this game is that at any given moment, what's on the screen is just hideously ugly.
Another ugly, dumb, half-assed jag game.
This game must have been a contemporary of the original Wipeout.
hahahahahaha
AlephNeil 2 years ago
The N64 had Golden eye, that was a good game, at least until you got to the latter parts of the game and bond kept dying off real easy.
jaymorpheus01 2 years ago
Dont say the n64 and jaguar sucked sony fanboys. They were all fine consoles (Well, mabye not the jaguar but still). N64 had a ton of awesome games.
sportygrrrrrrl11998 2 years ago 2
Yeah! You show those stupid 16 bits consoles!
There you go! Down for the count!
BeckTropical 2 years ago 2
This looks like Virtua Racing on the Megadrive. Garbage.
preydog1 2 years ago
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aznjohn15 2 years ago
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This looks like a game on the 32X had the programmers taken advantage of it's capabilities... but this is on a "64 bit" system so... FAIL.
stonedslacker 2 years ago
the intro looks really convincing, the acutal game... well... I guess it could be worse
but the framerate does seem slow
nooblet911 2 years ago
Compared to 1994's Grand Prix 2, this is laughable. It's so much worse looking than Rage Racer, PSX, 1996, as well. Pathetic game.
welshfinn1 2 years ago
I want this game still =/ hopefully ill come by it someday after I get my jag cd fixed, it just stopped reading games :(
Primogen18 2 years ago
Looks more playable than chequred flag, shame about the frame rate. i rather scarily love the music in this!
julsyDCst 2 years ago
Dang I love this game. Really wish I could find a copy of it
awesomecdiperson 2 years ago
Jaguar and 3DO are just two systems that never should've come out as they were.
Playstation showed what was really possible, and looked like a real next generation system when the 3DO and Jaguar looked like an upgrade from what was done with SuperFX and DSP chips.
frigginjoe 2 years ago 4
i think the same could be said for the N64, at least the jaguar was a true 64bit console so it was more pushing the technology than anything else.
dfragglet 2 years ago
Jaguar are not real 64 I think, because it have 2 processors with 32bits
fsm1982 2 years ago
the Jaguar had a Blitter 64-bit RISC architecture, it was the jaguars GPU that was 32-bit.
the N64 on the other hand had a 64 bit chip but almost all of its games were only able to use 32 bit as the rest of the systems hardware was inadequite to deal with the extra load of 64 bit processing.
dfragglet 2 years ago
i'd say most of the first party games were 64 bit on the n64
themanwithnonose 2 years ago
I personally don't know if that is true or not, but from an article i read about the n64 there were big problems with getting the software to use the full capabilities of the cpu.
but also quite interestingly there were two mode for the gpu one where the system could accurately do 100,000 polygons a sec and one where it could do 500,000 not so accurately and because of that Nintendo recommended that developers not use that.
dfragglet 2 years ago
that is more true with the jag, i notice that a majority of n64 exclusives look better than any ps1 game, conker's bad fur day looks like it could be a dreamcast game
themanwithnonose 2 years ago 3
I personnaly dont think thats true, i acctually think the ps was a better machine because the difference in the media used for the storage of game, because the PS used CD's its textures were of a much higher quality and so was the sound, as in early PS games they used CD audio. but the N64 had poor textures and in some cases used solid colour and low quality audio because of the limited storage of cart's and power of the consoles ability to handle textures.
dfragglet 2 years ago
Ohh... Ok :)
fsm1982 2 years ago
it doesn't matter either way, how many bits doesn't have shit to do with anything, the N64 was simply more powerful and could handle 3D better, end of story. Both were shit compared to CD systems IMO, Goldeneye/Perfect Dark are pretty much the only games I can really enjoy on the N64.
neogeon 2 years ago
Ever played Mario Kart 64 with four friends and a little green tea? Fun you shall never know I guess...In fact Extreme G just 1 player was also mad, and Turok and....ok so I'm a fan of N64.
Jesus32Xtreme 2 years ago 4
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wow. green tea? please commit hara-kiri you wapanese retard. Mario Kart 64 is gay, the SNES version was way better, but all of them are fanboy bullshit. Turok is almost the worst game ever made. If you wanted to defend the N64, why not Pilotwings, Wave Race, Smash Bros, or Conker's Bad Fur Day? fail.
neogeon 2 years ago
Ha ha, I see your quite agressive. You may be sexually fustrated. I have the games you mentioned, that's also what I ment by '...' Chill out man or go look for a fight else where. Saying Turok was bad dosn't say much for you either, It was ground breaking for console fps back then. Wave race was not as good as Extreme G overall IMO, even though it had greater gameplay, but they are all "fanboy bullshit" anyway? So come on then, curse me on YouTube again then? Actaully I'm not interested. C ya
Jesus32Xtreme 2 years ago 3
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sexually frustrated? me? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're the one arguing endlessly about the N64 on the internet and actually admit to drinking green tea. The fact alone that you have Jesus in your SN automatically means you're retarded anyway, so I don't see why there's any reason to continue this discussion. Turok...groundbreaking? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
neogeon 2 years ago
behave yourselves children!!!!........
curszondax 2 years ago
don't forget Banjo Kazooie! also as far as Jaguar goes I think the Jaguar is an excellent system
awesomecdiperson 2 years ago
atari pretty much found a loophole to say it was by having one 64 bit processor but a 32 bit sound and graphic chip
themanwithnonose 2 years ago
it wasn't the console that sucked it was the games were poor ports of already existing games, and the one or two games that were specifically developed for the platform were unimaginative and poorly developed. the console it's self was capable of alot more.
good consoles can dye too, dreamcast was the closest thing to having an arcade machine in your own home yet when it release people didn't want arcade games they wanted realistic sim's and challenging games not dumbed down arcade rehashes.
dfragglet 2 years ago 4
I think the N64 was the best at showing what a next generation system was capable of. Most PSX and Saturn games looked like polished up Jag and 3DO games. This game looks almost as good as a typical PSX F1 racing game but the framerate is just terrible.
dstarks80 2 years ago
The N64's muddy textures were hardly mind blowing, though of course many of the titles were great. I lump N64 with Saturn/PSX, with Dreamcast being the first real "high resolution" system. The jump from the N64 to the DC was incredible at the time.
tightlypackedcoil 2 years ago
Yanno, the frame rate is slighly better than Stunt Race FX on the Super Nintendo :P
Grooveraider 2 years ago 2
This game looks awesome!
I'm gonna get it. :)
Tamanozke 2 years ago
lol
NTComputer86 2 years ago
This game is really nice and hey people, although it was released, it was just a work in progress bought by telegames from Atari. Maybe the "final" version would have been a bit better, but we never will know that, nor do we know what the Jaguar really was capable to do. It´s a great machine with a large amount of averagely ported 16-bit games and some really great Jaguar games which were closer to PS1 games as most of you think ;)
060falcon 2 years ago
yea, jaguars version of AVP was one of the best versions of the game. and theme park was awesome, run quicker than the pc and ps version.
dfragglet 2 years ago
alot of people say the old systems has bad graphics but this is really good
MJmike31 2 years ago
Virtua Racing on Saturn looked better and that was a mere 32-bits.
Clipman00 2 years ago
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I feel sorry for all the suckers who wasted big bucks on this back in the day when it first launched only to realise what a pile of steaming shit it really is
fixxxer928 2 years ago
You take AVGN's reviews seriously? O_O Maybe you don't know but they're just for entertainment. They aren't to be taken for granted. Sure, Some things he says are true but he also has to make other things up.
101Volts 2 years ago 8
I have an Atari Jaguar, although i only have 2 games for it (Cybermorph and Doom). A friend and i played Cybermorph almost to the end, it was a horrid experience and when i see other games running just as bad as Cybermorph i know my initial thoughts on the Jaguar being a piece of shit were infact true. Only thing that's good about this is the sound quality but that's to be expected from a game running off a disc
fixxxer928 2 years ago
So, you obviously didn't play Doom.
Adventurestud 2 years ago
true but he wasnt lying about cybermorph lol
hellblazer116 2 years ago
Yeah! He should of been nicer to Virtua Fighter and the Sega CD. They look fun!
redfoxbennaton 2 years ago
it was only 200 bucks when it launched. that's not big bucks, not even in 1993.
Daemonocracy 2 years ago 2
hmm there is fps lag
sam46952 2 years ago
JAg wasn't all that bad. What it really comes down to is lack of software support and knowing the hardware. Had the Jag had more 3rd party support I feel it would have done better. The graphics were on par with the 32X at least and the sound was a little better but it goes to show you can have a powerful machine but if you don't know how to use it then its just useless. Like having a powerful racing car with 1000HP but you don't know how to drive a stick.
genocyde83 2 years ago 2
Virtua Racing Deluxe had a smoother framerate than this ....
aj0049 3 years ago
Oh my fuck is that an ad for DooM?
Blackdragon52k 3 years ago
Very Good.
yethboth 3 years ago
01:18 .. :| Wanking in the car..?
Samoutuomas 3 years ago
Ouch. Just ouch.
The fact that Atari could either lie or delude itself enough to try to make people think this was actually better than the Playstation (or even 3DO) is pitiable.
I bought one of these back in the day, with Club Drive and Alien Vs. Predator. It went back to the store the very next day. Truly one of the worst consoles ever made (IMHO of course).
UncleDeluxe 3 years ago
Do remember that the Jaguar came out about a year before the PlayStation, and was more contemporary with the Sega Genesis and Super Nintendo.
billkendrick1 3 years ago
Club Drive was one of the worst games on the system but AvP was the best game on the system and better than most games on the Playstation for a long time. It was a classic and way ahead of its time. Why on Earth would you return your Jaguar on account of that game? Especially back then?
And it certainly was better than the 3DO, were youe ven around during those times? It outsold the 3DO and consistantly outranked it when it camer to consumer and professional reviews.
Daemonocracy 3 years ago
Being the best on the Atari Jaguar is like being the best student in the "special" class.
At the time I already had Doom running on a 486 and the PSX began advertising in the U.S.
There was just no contest. To be fair, Tempest 200 was great in every regard, but Atari didn't even come close to any kind of good design in any of the games for it. They felt more like Atari 2600 games with better graphics than anything next gen at the time. Playstation was a true leap forward.
UncleDeluxe 3 years ago
Whoops, that would be 2000.
UncleDeluxe 3 years ago
Tempest 2000 was great, but my point is that nobody around that time would have been turned off by Alien VS Predator. It was a technical marvel for consoles at the time, even by Playstation standards. Sure it may have been on a poorly managed and scarcely supported system, but it was and is one hell of a game no matter what platform it originated on.
Daemonocracy 3 years ago 2
To each his own, I guess. I don't know why you seem to be questioning my opinion, being as it is only my opinion.
Of course I remember the 3DO, I was 18 when it came out. I remember being much more impressed with Crash N' Burn than anything on the Jag. Add to that, anyone at the time that played Doom smoothly on a 486 (like myself) would have been underwhelmed by AVP's 15 fps.
UncleDeluxe 3 years ago
Opinions aren't beyond reproach. I just took exception with AvP being lumped with Club Drive as some awful game. I wouldn't want someone who is uninformed to think AvP wasn't the accomplishment that it was, I prefer good games get their recognition, that is all.
Daemonocracy 3 years ago
Well, reproachful of my opinion or not, I was disappointed with it. Atari's Jag games showed a lack of polish in general compared to even 16 bit consoles of the day.
UncleDeluxe 3 years ago
You're a fucking liar. The 3D0 sold over 2 million units. The Jaguar sold less than 250k.
Also, the first couple years that the 3D0 was out, it was critically acclaimed. The Jaguar was always regarded as a steamy pile of overrated shit.
Blackson187 2 years ago
Yeah I'm "lying" about videogames. After you seek anger management, you need to check the facts. NO WAY did 3DO sell 2 million units when it had only sold around 300,000 when the Playstation and Saturn launched and died shortly afterwards. The 3DO has a horrid launch and only sold 30,000 out of an expected 100,000 while the Jaguar sold out on launch day. The 3DO was never criticially acclaimed because of its outrageous pricetag and limited software and the Jaguar was never "overrated". lol
Daemonocracy 2 years ago
I still remenber reading all the reports back then of consumers returning 3DO units mere days after purchase as they quickly realised what an incredably expensive mistake they had made believing all the hype and advertising! Nearly all the screenshots shown were of cutscenes if I remember rightly!
hotdaddyhuggy 2 years ago
its a shame , I think if Atari had just called it the Jaguar or at the very most Atari jaguar 32, as only one of the two chips (tom) was used for the graphics the other(jerry) was mostly for the sound, but at the strange time of release gamers & the trade were going nuts about "bits"
paulspydar 3 years ago
it´s unnecesary remember to everybody than this is a shit?
ENFDO 3 years ago
What the fuck did you just say?
cuttock 3 years ago 3
No shit,
combine that comment with a moment of brain freeze and it'll likely put you in a coma.
IBeHoey 2 years ago
Cant show full 64bit power on a 32Bit console the 64bit spec lies was aload of marketing hype.
YouFucked2 3 years ago
I suppose it is actually a 24bit machine.
Mibmu 3 years ago
wow how does it do that little screen scale thing at 4:24 was that a level up or something?
bohoki 3 years ago
It's witch craft man! WITCH CRAFT!!
Naw, it's just the guy editing the video, so you don't get bored.
takeiuchi 3 years ago
man i swear thats not even running at 5fps. a lot of people say that jag didnt show its full power on most of the games , well i would like to see a game were they did show full 64 bit power
tbcslayer 3 years ago 2
Cool game :)
sasukeoichiha 3 years ago
I'll wonder what the kid who bought this CD-ADDON years ago, and shelled out $60 for this game thought when he popped it in and played it. He said to himself, "......this is what I bought a whole new JAG CD unit for????"
dogeymon83 3 years ago
ingenious frame rate ... man i don`t know why atari just fucked this thing up ... a terrible controller, terrible games (except AVP, Tempest 2000 and Cannon Fooder) and a terrible marketing ...
UrbanVibezHouse 3 years ago
lol bad driving dude good vid mate :D
aggmantz6 3 years ago
WTF AT 1:19 !!!
SiLeNtXaViOr 3 years ago
What's happening at 1:19??? Maybe the wool from his socks is causing a rash around his ankles and he's itching it in his driver's seat. I do that sometimes. ;)
dogeymon83 3 years ago
I love how they have cool graphics on the intro video. And then when the actual game starts, it turns into a steaming pile of cow dung.
TruthandJustice101 3 years ago
I can't believe they touted this as a 64 bit system. The PS1 and Saturn were 32 bit and blew the doors off this thing in every possible way.
rcgamer 3 years ago
My LED alarm clock had better graphics than this game.
TruthandJustice101 3 years ago
And this is JAGUAR CD! So people paid $149 for an extra piece of hardware to upgrade their Jaguar, and the PS1 still could outperform it. WTF.
dogeymon83 3 years ago
It was not supposed to battle the ps1 it was aimed at genesis and snes
SiLeNtXaViOr 3 years ago
The fact that Virtua Racing for Genesis is better game than this one tells you how terrible this console was.
faaaddas 3 years ago
VR had more polygons and textures?, VR had much less polygons and no textures, seeems that u forgot how was VR. Tecnicaly this console was much better than the Genesis and equal or better than the 32x
kaiten76 3 years ago
I am not sure about that it is not only about graphic but also about gameplay and VR was a better game i agree on that but this game has better graphics. Technically Jaguar CD was Maybe a little better than Sega CD or equally Good as Sega CD. 32X was technically higher but the games didn`t showed that at all.
Cyrus7500 3 years ago
It's the same team who made Power F1 for the PC back in 97. You can already see the similarities
superallye 3 years ago
LOL @ Race driver wanking at 1:19 to 1:21
superallye 3 years ago
looks waaaay better than checkered flag virtua racing on the megadrive really was better than that in graphics framerate and gameplay
mjdoomreviews 3 years ago
this looks like shit. virtua racing on genesis was better than this.
deadline27 3 years ago
Actually, if you notice, there is textured graphics, the music is better, and the graphics overall are more complex than the Genesis. But since i haven't played either game, i don't know how each is in terms of gameplay.
whiteechidna 3 years ago
Ya mum looks like shit
ExtremeBogom 3 years ago
ha ha whoa! shit! side splitting laughter... how original, a mom joke! hardy har har... i don't have a "mum" ya filty british wanker, i have a "mom"
go tax some tea or something
deadline27 3 years ago 3
I was agitated yesterday sorry lol.
Nice comeback though, was a quick laff.
Peace.
ExtremeBogom 3 years ago
Virtua Racing ripoff
StudioGuyMN 3 years ago
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omg 3d graphics at the beginning videos. How could they render that, and why didn't they put the 3d graphics in the game. My guess is that the videos were being rendered for like a day and a game console couldn't render the picture on the fly if the game had a 3d engine.
peterfaj 3 years ago
they coulnt, those are videos, yes cg in games were THAT bad before ff7
khhnator 3 years ago
well, that'sd what I think anyway
Cobradabest 3 years ago
man i still love atari from pole position to checkered flag to this if it were not for atari i would not pay formula 1 racing any attention
redd7188 3 years ago
Anyone played Vroom on the mighty Amiga? That is a crackin' racing game, and much much faster than even this game, and on a 16 bit home computer too, although this does look nice, but like some have already said it's a bit slow compared to other racers of the time.
Ironlord2015 3 years ago
haha the jag sucks so hard, that's why I like it²
This and many other CD games prove that definetly atari should've made Jaguar with CD support from the start.
Even thou some cartridge games are good (skyhammer, AVP) they certainly would be a lot better on CD.
unsurreal 3 years ago
That looks like a PS1 game, I like! =D
Cobradabest 3 years ago
you're nuts.
legendman 3 years ago
I'm nuts and I'm proud of it.
Cobradabest 3 years ago
This game looks pretty cool, actually.
moravallor 3 years ago
For 1996, this isn't bad but certainly isn't great. Formula 1 on the PS1 was just around the corner and that was fully licensed and was a lot smoother. Pity about the bug it had where you team mate would pit every lap after a certain period during the championship. That was fixed later on.
Back on the main subject though, it's still a massive step forward over Checkered Flag
RikMcCloud 3 years ago