I really agree with this video, the only exception to thinning paints in my book is when you're using Model Master's Acrylics. Those paints were made for air brushes to begin with.
Hello, great video but I was also wondering about this. Could you please let us know how that 50/50 mix is used?
"You mention a 50/50 mix of acrylic flow release and drying retarder. Will a drop of this over power the paint? Or do you mean 90% water, and 10% acryclic flow release/drying retarder at a 50/50 ratio?"
@Midnight6405 Yes with the GW airbrush you must thin the paint. But you dont do it like this. GW airbrush comeswith a tiny little jar for paint and water. there is 2 lines with and emblem. The jar emblem is the paint measurement line and the water drop is the water measurement. Just fill it to the line and you can start airbrushing!
What about adding a mat medium to thin paint? I just started painting. I'm using a wet pallet and a mix of Vallejo model and game colors. When I first tried thinning my paint it would leave what looked like water marks. I may have been thinning to much. I bought a matte medium thinking it would help keep the binding. Was this wrong? Should I mix the matte medium with a flow agent?
@SPBTooL I'm not an expert. But I believe Matte MEdium only dulls the color. It reduces the gloss in the color. I don't think it affects the consistency of the paint.
Method 3- You mentioned that acrylic flow release is strong and tends to over power the paint if its is not thinned down.
Method 4- You mention a 50/50 mix of acrylic flow release and drying retarder. Will a drop of this over power the paint? Or do you mean 90% water, and 10% acryclic flow release/drying retarder at a 50/50 ratio?
I was always amazed at how people mix paints on a dirty palette, every time I've ever tried the moment I add water, I revive the previous layers and change everything to brown -_- or grey.
Ok, this video helped me, but how exactly should i thin bigerr quantities of GW paints? When i pour them, I actually pour more than i want and it messes up whole color pot
@UnityCZ Best way to start is not to pour the paint from the pot. Just use the bristles of an old junky brush to take out small quantities at a time. It will massively cut down on the amount of paint that gets wasted.
I did option 3 the Acrylic Flow Release with water... But when i mix it with the paint it's getting alot of bubbles and the paint is not thin & smooth at all... How come? And did you put something in your paint bottle that you just bougth, cause it look so thin & smooth when you put it on the plate.
when your measuring out your flow release mix instaed of adding it in drops which takes forever, just use a syringe to measure out the amounts. you'll be done in a matter of seconds.
If you're worried that you won't be good at thinning valejo paints because perhaps your ratios are a bit off, vallejo also makes a paint thinner (in an eyedropper bottle) for their model paints. Since vallejos have those eye-dropper bottles, you can easily measure out ratios. The paint:thinner ratio is about 3:1.
You'll need to do 2 things when you start thinning your paint.
First, make sure to use more than one layer of paint. Paint on one layer, let it dry, then paint on at least one more, let that dry and if you feel it needs a third, add that one.
Secondly, when you do put on your second and third coating of paint, use a brushstroke that is in a different direction than the previous layer. For instance layer 1 is done front to back, layer 2 is side to side.
Generally speaking, craft paints don't have very much pigment in them. Most model paints have a LOT of pigment in them, especially the Vallejo Model Colors. The reason the craft paints are so cheap is because you're basically paying for a bottle of what amounts to colored water.
And, remember what one of my mentors, Jim Rohn, says. Things don't cost too much, you just have to find a way to afford them. Perhaps set a goal to get maybe 1 or 2 P3 paints per month. Not much, but its a start.
i have a question: WHY should i use these types of paints when i can buy craft paints for a lot cheaper. i would like to buy p3 but my parents say that it is totally overpriced and just the same as the acrylic craft paints.
question is citadel model paint good 4 putting on lego star wars clones. it would be nice if it does work to show us or tell me what paint is best 2 use
Honestly, I'm not sure. I don't use GW paint anymore, but I would imagine they would be fine for painting the star wars stuff. My personal preference for almost all my painting is Vallejo paint.
Honestly, it depends on the individual paint. Generally, I like a ratio of about 2 drops of water for 1 drop of paint, but if the paint itself is either very thick or very thin, the ratio will need to be changed.
Honestly, I don't know. I've never used the floor wax. I've always been one to just go straight for the stuff designed for art, so I stick to the Flow-Aid / Flow Release products and good clean water.
You're welcome for the info on additives. And thank you for your concern about my eyes.
Right now, they're better than they were. I could not paint at all during the months of December or January.
At least now, I can paint for about 30 minutes every 5 or 6 hours.
The bad part is, I've got 2 commissions sitting on my table that I've been trying to finish for 3 months now. It's become a bit difficult to do in only 30 minutes for every 5 or 6 hour.
I really agree with this video, the only exception to thinning paints in my book is when you're using Model Master's Acrylics. Those paints were made for air brushes to begin with.
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Hello, great video but I was also wondering about this. Could you please let us know how that 50/50 mix is used?
"You mention a 50/50 mix of acrylic flow release and drying retarder. Will a drop of this over power the paint? Or do you mean 90% water, and 10% acryclic flow release/drying retarder at a 50/50 ratio?"
dhdrake79 4 months ago
i might be an ork freek but - can you see the ork emerging from the green blob?
MrCybersilence 5 months ago
Doesn't this ruins the paintbrush?
Toxicrafa 5 months ago
Could you use this thinning technique to use in a air brush?
Midnight6405 6 months ago
@Midnight6405 It might work, thought I don't own an airbrush, so I can't give a definitive yes or no.
AGProductionsInc 6 months ago
@Midnight6405 Yes with the GW airbrush you must thin the paint. But you dont do it like this. GW airbrush comeswith a tiny little jar for paint and water. there is 2 lines with and emblem. The jar emblem is the paint measurement line and the water drop is the water measurement. Just fill it to the line and you can start airbrushing!
StephenaGoodwin9 3 months ago
@StephenaGoodwin9 Thank you!!
Midnight6405 3 months ago
What about enamel and oil paints? great and useful vid though.
Ydouneed2nomyname 7 months ago
What about adding a mat medium to thin paint? I just started painting. I'm using a wet pallet and a mix of Vallejo model and game colors. When I first tried thinning my paint it would leave what looked like water marks. I may have been thinning to much. I bought a matte medium thinking it would help keep the binding. Was this wrong? Should I mix the matte medium with a flow agent?
SPBTooL 10 months ago
@SPBTooL I'm not an expert. But I believe Matte MEdium only dulls the color. It reduces the gloss in the color. I don't think it affects the consistency of the paint.
Ydouneed2nomyname 7 months ago
thanks I've been looking for one of these. Im gonna put 4 drops of water (1ml drop each drop) and put it straight in to the pot on 12ml. 8/10
MrRabidCat 11 months ago
Method 3- You mentioned that acrylic flow release is strong and tends to over power the paint if its is not thinned down.
Method 4- You mention a 50/50 mix of acrylic flow release and drying retarder. Will a drop of this over power the paint? Or do you mean 90% water, and 10% acryclic flow release/drying retarder at a 50/50 ratio?
Thanks
dbrunski 11 months ago
I was always amazed at how people mix paints on a dirty palette, every time I've ever tried the moment I add water, I revive the previous layers and change everything to brown -_- or grey.
mandasity 1 year ago
will this work for a graffiti mop?
kwebber1234 1 year ago
@kwebber1234 I have to admit that I have no idea what a graffiti mop is, so I'm unfortunately able to say whether or not it will work.
AGProductionsInc 1 year ago
@AGProductionsInc well its just a painting marker. just think of it of that. with like a custom tip like the brush on a paint brush.
kwebber1234 1 year ago
@kwebber1234 yes sir
justinpiu 1 year ago
@kwebber1234 Nahhh
mang this would cause
Diarrheal leakage .
Thinner works for
Mops
rafathebboy 1 year ago
Ok, this video helped me, but how exactly should i thin bigerr quantities of GW paints? When i pour them, I actually pour more than i want and it messes up whole color pot
UnityCZ 1 year ago
@UnityCZ Best way to start is not to pour the paint from the pot. Just use the bristles of an old junky brush to take out small quantities at a time. It will massively cut down on the amount of paint that gets wasted.
AGProductionsInc 1 year ago
do u have to thin cote darms paint?
LEGOlass1231 1 year ago
who ever asked how to thin paints,
its pretty obvious
tzeentchman13 1 year ago
lol 4.02 this is called acrylic "flow release" hehe who came up with that name
emopopsicles 2 years ago
I have been using Flow Aid or water seems to keep my paints from drying to fast
Flow Aid made by Liquitex
Ratio 9:1 in my dropper
Very cool info
SwimmingInMtDew 2 years ago
I did option 3 the Acrylic Flow Release with water... But when i mix it with the paint it's getting alot of bubbles and the paint is not thin & smooth at all... How come? And did you put something in your paint bottle that you just bougth, cause it look so thin & smooth when you put it on the plate.
taivu87 2 years ago
would using dirty water to thin (the water I use to clean my brush) affect the paint's color ?
theflyingpinoy 2 years ago
It depends on HOW dirty the water is.
I generally tend to change the water in my cup about every half hour and DEFINATELY before the start of any painting session.
I know some painters that leave their water sitting there for weeks at a time and it's just a nightmare seeing them use it on their figures.
AGProductionsInc 2 years ago
how long do you let the paint dry?
TheBlitzgundam 2 years ago
when your measuring out your flow release mix instaed of adding it in drops which takes forever, just use a syringe to measure out the amounts. you'll be done in a matter of seconds.
ste0240 2 years ago
If you're worried that you won't be good at thinning valejo paints because perhaps your ratios are a bit off, vallejo also makes a paint thinner (in an eyedropper bottle) for their model paints. Since vallejos have those eye-dropper bottles, you can easily measure out ratios. The paint:thinner ratio is about 3:1.
Good vid man :).
DarkTankadin 2 years ago
Hey Chris, thanks for the great tutorial!
I just switched from GW paint to Vallejo paint. I usually thin my paint with the ratio of 1 drop of paint to 1 drop of water.
But the problem im getting is when my models dry, i see brush strokes. Especially on large flat surfaces like my rhino. Should i thin my paint more?
kelvint1989 2 years ago
You'll need to do 2 things when you start thinning your paint.
First, make sure to use more than one layer of paint. Paint on one layer, let it dry, then paint on at least one more, let that dry and if you feel it needs a third, add that one.
Secondly, when you do put on your second and third coating of paint, use a brushstroke that is in a different direction than the previous layer. For instance layer 1 is done front to back, layer 2 is side to side.
AGProductionsInc 2 years ago
I know you are asking christopher but
i would work or blend the paint onto the model or spray it on
ultramarine1234 2 years ago
Generally speaking, craft paints don't have very much pigment in them. Most model paints have a LOT of pigment in them, especially the Vallejo Model Colors. The reason the craft paints are so cheap is because you're basically paying for a bottle of what amounts to colored water.
And, remember what one of my mentors, Jim Rohn, says. Things don't cost too much, you just have to find a way to afford them. Perhaps set a goal to get maybe 1 or 2 P3 paints per month. Not much, but its a start.
AGProductionsInc 2 years ago
i have a question: WHY should i use these types of paints when i can buy craft paints for a lot cheaper. i would like to buy p3 but my parents say that it is totally overpriced and just the same as the acrylic craft paints.
MrBugbear 2 years ago
question is citadel model paint good 4 putting on lego star wars clones. it would be nice if it does work to show us or tell me what paint is best 2 use
bakuganza 2 years ago
Honestly, I'm not sure. I don't use GW paint anymore, but I would imagine they would be fine for painting the star wars stuff. My personal preference for almost all my painting is Vallejo paint.
AGProductionsInc 2 years ago
so is retarder kinda for blending and shit or what?
i think imma pick up a bottle of each from the art store in my town.
adv1k 2 years ago
Heya, thanks for all the tutorials, they are being a huge help so far.
I have a quick question, what ratio you suggest to use to thin vallejo paints with water?
Thanks in advance,
Cheers, Antonio.
TonhaxX 2 years ago
Honestly, it depends on the individual paint. Generally, I like a ratio of about 2 drops of water for 1 drop of paint, but if the paint itself is either very thick or very thin, the ratio will need to be changed.
AGProductionsInc 2 years ago
What is the chemical in the floor wax that makes it majik. Is their any other brand that you can use.
escapeartist323 2 years ago
Honestly, I don't know. I've never used the floor wax. I've always been one to just go straight for the stuff designed for art, so I stick to the Flow-Aid / Flow Release products and good clean water.
AGProductionsInc 2 years ago
Really enjoyed the video Chris. Keep up the good job.
Rolfy
rolfy321 2 years ago
May I ask about your eyes?
Are you blurring after a while?
I keep the T.v. on across the room and watch it every couple of minutes:)
It helps prolong my sessions!
Thanks for the info on the additives.
stumpythumper 2 years ago
You're welcome for the info on additives. And thank you for your concern about my eyes.
Right now, they're better than they were. I could not paint at all during the months of December or January.
At least now, I can paint for about 30 minutes every 5 or 6 hours.
The bad part is, I've got 2 commissions sitting on my table that I've been trying to finish for 3 months now. It's become a bit difficult to do in only 30 minutes for every 5 or 6 hour.
AGProductionsInc 2 years ago
A very good tutorial. Happy St. Patricks Day!
warhammerfantacy 2 years ago
Thank you for that insite, there are not really many written sources that I have found that explain this so well.
Shinja527 3 years ago
great vid
sithlord227 3 years ago
Please more how to movies. The other guys have stopped doing this and I rely on you! Nice btw!
Kriegfreak 3 years ago
Aahhhh, the pressure!!!
J/k
I enjoy doing tutorials.
AGProductionsInc 2 years ago
well done
Charger8117 3 years ago