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  • my friend lehto made me fall in love with talons but this guy reminds me why lol, i miss my eclipse...

  • wonder where mikescharger is at. he seems to think watching the outside vid that shep won this race

  • shep gets treed a lot because of how he has to launch. he ran a lot of factory parts and couldn't dump the clutch, he had to slip it.

  • Srt4monster ya pretty sure. Most of his records include fastest awd dsm. Also if u look at related videos and look at the outer views u can see slicks front and rear. Also I don't aim to take lime light from shep, just amazed at how fast the "rustang" was out of the hole.

  • I own a dsm but props have to be given where its due, "if he had traction?" It's awd and the "rustang" still had him in the hole shot!

  • @mz98snake you sure its awd?

  • Holy shit!!!!!!

  • squirrelly little bastard :D reminds me of my dads 41 willys coupe.

  • literally he's sliding

  • push in clutch with chute never gets old

  • Looks like a hand full.

  • Haha i like how people try to justify the mustang having a head start, but if it did then youd see the fox's nose stick out and see it in the window but you dont ahaha 1 second or above youd see the fox off the line

  • 4g63 would be nice fitted in a GTM supercar, would weigh no more than 2800lbs with that small engine.

  • omg f----k . that was a hella of rush just watching. disgusting.

  • Seems like the mustang got him still

  • Rustang owners can bite me he got a 1 second headstart, and that's true.

  • the mustang lost it had a headstart

    mustang: 7.86 at 189

    talon: 7.70 at 191

    someone thumbs up this to set the record straight

  • @impleasen The mustang won. It's call a quicker reaction time.

  • @impleasen You can with a race with a slower e/t if your r/t is quick enough.

  • haha and the fox still had him

  • badass

  • the fact that that mustang won on pure holeshot, is scary.

  • if he woulda had traction that mustang would be regreting being made

  • controlling a beast with one hand all the way till the end "pro status"

  • Mustang got the 60ft Better and the talon got the mph better they both are very fast and nice cars..... Great video!... Thumbs up!

  • @bmister50 it was cool seeing him pull up top. Cool video and great time.

  • talon won dipshits, sprayin pussy =]

  • @PuReInSaNiTy1994 Mustang WON!

  • whatever happened to his DSM?

  • Damn that thing is fast, but he lost to a mustang!! lol

  • @94StrokerZ28 he won btw .. this race was on the time and the mustang ran 7.78

  • @94StrokerZ28 the mustang actually lost if u watched the other vid. Dsm 7.70 mustang 7.86 :)

  • When get to over 300km/h in less than 8 seconds and are still spinning the FOUR wheels (AWD), you know you have some serious power. When you learn it's from a 2.0L Mitsubishi engine, then you think ''how the fuck is that possible it's a four bagner?'' Well my friend, you've got your anwser in this video. It's only possible because someone decided it would be and tu-fucking-ned the engine.

  • It's a 2.0l, filled block, no coolant, running methanol, 42r (some variant), no juice, and Shep builds trans so yeah tranny is a dogbox, 4 speed, with his trix...car has been rebuilt since with the chassis redone so it can go str8 with that much HP... let's see if he can top this time!

  • i liked...even though u lost lol

    

  • @234agr mustang lost - check it

  • @Cris242526 check athat mustangs vids though look up dave hance, thats whose mustang it is if you look close, hes been 6's on a 275 radial bad ass!

    sheps car is badass, but dave's car still deserves credit!

  • @Cris242526 mustang didnt lose it called a hole shot win dipshit check it

  • Thats gotta be a bAAAAD ASSS tranny in this thing. Did you see how effortlessly he was bump shifting!? Or maybe Shep just makes it look easy haha

  • what liter motor is this exactly?

  • @thaandiesel pretty sure he's still running stock 2.0 displacement... probably the only thing left that's stock in that motor lol

  • @mamunoz916 cant imagine running that fast with the stock 2.0 myself, thanx :)

  • @thaandiesel Well it's definitely not the STOCK 2.0 lol he's got to have that motor completely built with new internals, balance + blueprint, MASSIVE head work, etc... but the DISPLACEMENT, I believe, has remained 2.0 liters for better response / high revs. Many 4G63's are making well over 1,000 WHP using the stock 2.0 displacement...

    In my opinion... Shep's secret to running 7.70's lies in the tranny / driveline ;]

  • @mamunoz916 heard it was 2.4(4g64 bottom end), had to confirm, thanx!!

  • if that was heads up racing mustang had him... reaction time who cares who went faster

  • haha still slower then john sheps 7.7 sec vs 7.86..and that mustang need half the motor sticking out the hood..haha,...cant even see out the front..major blind spot..john sheps mitsubishi looks stock no damn motors sticking out...and with 1/5th the engine ..no NO2

  • Thats a fast fox body, two awesome cars

  • He actually didn't get beat, look at the video where you can see both cars lined up. The ford is 1-2 car lengths in front of the DSM. Times don't lie..

  • lol.. still got beat. But fast nonetheless.

  • @Riceater88

    got beat on the tree, still went quicker.., 7.70 vs 7.86 for the mustang.

  • @Riceater88 he didnt get beat he is actually faster 7.70vs 7.86 for the mustnag ..his reaction time was slower. and left later.

  • HAAA STILL DIDN'T BEAT THE FORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @spdkilzasoundsuck he did beat the ford dip shit 7.7 vs 7.86. the ford left earlier..he took longer on reaction time.

  • @spdkilzasoundsuck Ford is Fucked on race day..as proved here hahaha..7.86@182 ford mustang is slower then the import 7.70@191mph mitsubishi.

  • spanked by a dsm start to finish haha.

  • ok wait a sec....is he spinning the tires the entire time or is the HP just so much he can't keep it very straight? Man I love DSM's.

  • Spanked by a mustang start to finish haha

  • I say if he could have tamed it and kept it straight he woulda beat the rustang

  • wow, this is a great video of dsm power, win or lose, it was a good race, and very quick. Look at the cars, a v8 mustang vs a FOUR cylinder and the eclipse runs with the mustang the whole way. Little four bangers are amazing with enough wrench time and money lol.

  • @DsmPowerOf1 i like how awd pulled harder on the big end too. extra drivetrain loss my ass

  • @DsmPowerOf1 Im a fan on 8s, as noted by my videos, but, you forgot to add a whole lot less weight.

  • I Love the Sticky note. and that was an amazing run, not a fan of DSM since alot of people Rice them but this is a piece of art.

  • that was cool do it again

  • the mustang had a head start,

    plus as you can see the talon was pullin on top.

  • @impleasen The only advantage that stang had was brutal low end Torque, not a head start. And it don't matter who's pulling at the top, its not a top speed race its a drag race

  • @ruthlessone3k yea but the bigger power car always pulls on the big end. he almost ran him down even with the poor rt. and it does matter whos pulling on the big end if your opponent runs you down and beats you. on the talons side though he does have an ass load more work to launch that car then the stang thats probably leaving on a trans brake.

  • @nallen100 I'm not really sure what your trying to say. Your statment seems rather redundant. Can you rephrase it?

  • @nallen100 If your trying to say that high hp cars always pull more on the top end, then your just misinformed It all depends how its geared and where the torque is in the rpm range. most V8's pull harder on the lower end of the rpm range. and yes the talon would probably be harder to control although the awd would give him a traction advantage. But top end only matters if you can get past the other car. which he didn't

  • @ruthlessone3k AWD is not an advantage when your pushing over 750hp+ so you should rethink that. I have yet to see a AWD car run 6s or faster unlike rear or front wheel. Awd is a big disadvantage after high hp cus you have to run 4 slicks and if you've never tried driving on all 4s then you should haha its like driving on ice.

    And its not like you can warm up slicks perfectly everytime, the car is made to hook unlike rwd and fwd you cant burnout intensly

  • @10SecLightning yeah, you're probably right. with this much horse power he's probably fighting it more than its helping him. but I know that some of the AWD drag racers setup their center diff so the can transfer all the power to the rear to heat the tires up and then move some to the front to launch. I'm not sure if his car is setup like this or not. Either way its still pretty impressive for an awd riceburner.

  • @ruthlessone3k Yea ive seen some nice setups like the Evo 6 running 236mph in the Texas mile on street tires, ftw....

    But yea he is deffinently fighting this setup lol he is literally power steering the whole run haha. I just wanted to add my 2 cents but not in an asshole way! I just think people like the kid who says spanked by a mustang start to finish is funny, look at the differences in the handling going down the track...

  • either way that mustang was hella fast. Both were bad ass rides

  • steering the whole qaurtermile

  • mustang ran a 7.86 and the talon ran a 7.70.... so no it wasn't faster

    (check around for this vid on youtube outside of the car and check the times on the boards)

  • At the end he started to pull on that V8 lmao nice.

  • @cotequadsport - The other dsm video you saw was most likely another John Shepard one, he has quite a few of his passes on youtube and there is even a few that show him actually driving his race car to the track so while his car may be street legal I highly doubt it's a daily driver.

  • DAMN that mustang was fast!

  • @RawbIsFtw But this car was FASTER. You see you time doesn't start once the light turns green. It starts when you leave the line :] I learned this the hard way... i thought id won but it wasn't like that.

  • @RawbIsFtw crazy thing the mustang lost the race....

  • I know this video is at least 4 years old by now and ppl are still commenting on it? @crazykillas I'm sorry to burst your "fact" bubble but you got your facts wrong because there actually was a sub 7 sec run ran by a awd back in 2007 actually. If I'm not mistaken the car actually ran high 6's in the 1/4 now given it was NOT a stock chasis car your statement that no awd car has ever ran less then 7.4 was incorrect. Now as in every thing in life there's going to be fan boys claiming this is be

  • @jdcase1982 i seen a comment in another dsm video with a guy claiming this was a daily driver. is this true?

  • @cotequadsport Not anymore. The car has no front lights and no coolant running through the engine. He was making sub 10 sec passes while still driving it on the street, possibly even sub 9 sec.

  • @usaidemon

    His license plate used to say "8 sec". There are pictures of his car with a child's seat in the back, and videos of it driving on the street to the track, and running an 8 second pass. Pretty amazing.

  • @tkelly27 I thought he had ran 8's while driving it on the street, wasn't sure though

  • O and did anyone mention its a stick leaving off the ebrake :)

  • @nallen100 thats not a ebrake tard..... boosted race cars are hard to stage while spooling them up with the petal on the floor thus they put it on that lever and makes it easier to stage and launch the car...

  • @crazykillas thats why its in the same position as the ebrake, and there are many guides on dsm forums on how to launch an awd turbo off the ebrake. preloads the drivetrain. Im pertty sure thats how all the 5 speed guys launch theres as well. I launch of the ebrake in mine. Anyway who the fuck cares. You probably dont even own a car or are one of those guys who think all five 0 rustangs are fast. o and btw your mullet is showing

  • @nallen100 i don't have a mullet but nice try, and actually i own a 10 sec n/a fox... all i have told you has been pure facts, you are the one getting pissed bro, stock suspension records are all held by rwd cars, there has never been anything faster than a 7.40 pass by a awd combination ever in the world... there is even a 3000hp awd truck that can't hook up or go anywhere near as fast as any rwd cars in its class.

  • next up talon vs john force mustang :P

  • and at these speeds 1/10 of a second is an ass whooping. v8 fan boys across the country took an ego hit when this 4cyl cracked off a 7.7 with a factory body and real glass haha. Wait till hes done converting it to a "race car". Remember this sucker is still street legal haha

  • @nallen100 not really fastest stock style suspension mustangs been 6.80's in the 1/4, ie direct replecment chassis parts factory bodies...

    and they can go faster cause that pass was a 4.60 1/8 and the fastest 1/8mile pass for one is a 4.44.... but they have started to run the drag radial class's 1/8 mile only now....

    its sad that the import fanboy's like to bash v8's so much, i enjoy hanging with titan just as much as the domestic guys..

  • @crazykillas well i would hope so with 3 times the displacement and 50 years of r&d behind it. Also those cars are not unibody. I also didnt see any imports in this video.

  • @nallen100 um fox mustangs are unibody all mustangs are unibody in fact... and the cars i'm talking about are made in the 80's and 90's...

    dsm's are going to get lumped in with the imports even if they are made in the states, its a Mitsubishi drive train with a american designed shell are you happy?

    and lol at you trying to claim hp as a excuse, build a engine that can then... you were just commenting about how much of a ass whooping he gave the mustang, and bring up body and chassis

  • @crazykillas only reason i mentioned bodies is ive never seen a mod'd stang under 10 seconds that wasnt atleast front halfed or full tube frame with lex glass. Which the stang in the video very well could be. And that the talons body is factory. There should be no excuses made on this video. Besides the fact that the talon ran 1/10 faster. The AWD 4 cyl was pulling the stang hard on the TOP end even. There goes the "disadvantage" of awd on a roll.

  • @nallen100 you haven't seen any because you haven't looked, they dominate stock suspension classes around the country... like i said there have been full steal body mustangs a lot fucking faster than his talon. this video doesn't prove anything other than he ran a lesser car and couldn't leave worth a shit on the line and did you even pay attention to how unstable that awd car is on the top end? he didnt "win" shit, he had a faster et and a slower r/t allowing the mustang to have him by a car

  • The stang won off reaction time. the stang ran a 7.8 while the eclipse ran a faster 7.70

  • i honestly dont see how the talon won.. the mustang had him at the end and neither jumped. can someone explain?

  • fast ass cars

  • mustang ftw..lol

  • @overboost1111

    Too bad the talon won...

    /watch?v=aTJj-YaMdsk&feature=f­vw

  • Droppin the clutch @ 8500 RPM, shifting at 11,000 RPM. 4G63 FOREVER!!!!

  • That's insane.... Losing traction in an AWD 4 cyl Talon at 170MPH.... Sick car indeed!

  • stang had a head start i believe

    but the talon was pullin at the end he shifted into 4th and set it sideways with all wheel drive at 140 or so

  • Looking forward to 2007....now looking forward to 2011 maybe :( We miss this car

  • fuck ya 0:23!!!!!!

  • love how hes spinning the awd through the whole fucking track lol

  • Always Remember: "Push Clutch In With Chute"

  • @biggeorge77 lol

  • bad ass fucken car

  • how bout them fox bodies!!! lol

  • @AutomotiveAficionado what about em, their beasts hhahaha!!

  • @AutomotiveAficionado they are cheap and everybody builds too many of em lol

  • @shitfacedcockmaster8 Could someone please tell me what does John Force drive? My memory must be slipping. I know its something cheap and everybody builds too many of them. ;)

  • @AutomotiveAficionado john force doesnt drive a fox body mustang. its not even close to those year cars. sooo um you're dumb

  • @shitfacedcockmaster8 no but he does drive a mustang. nice try though.

  • @AutomotiveAficionado lol god you mustang ppl are stubborn as hell. im not talking about all mustangs being cheap dude. i said fox bodies and then you went all irrelevant on things talking about john force lol. you drunk man? lmao just drop it, not an issue

  • @shitfacedcockmaster8 why so mad there guy?

  • @AutomotiveAficionado yeah i didnt figure your simple ass had anything good to say. i tried to end this with the last comment dude. go drive your rustang or something. hey maybe when you're done you could jack off to pictures of john force haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

  • @shitfacedcockmaster8 so your mad for no good reason is what your saying?

  • @AutomotiveAficionado yeah i'm mad cuz you drive a junk mustang.

  • would you fucks shut the fuck up!

    your all like fucken girls

    to eachs own

    u dont no how much money either put into their cars so you cant do an apples for apples piss fest

  • Whether the mustang ran a 7.8 to Shep's 7.7 doesn't matter. The mustang won due to being the first 1 over the finish line. Next time tell Shep to stop sleeping at the line. LOL

  • @sr20tuner you're just mad because sr20's are shit and you have no place in the drag scene. should have got 4g63 or ej20

  • @subyboy

    Are you fckn serious dude? I have a BD Lego with a ej205 swap, fmic, blouch 8cm^ 18g and IPT TC that'll rock your world. I can't change my name or else I would make it more universal.

    As for 4g63s are we talking about the iron block 6 bolt or all aluminium 4g63 or the 4b11T? I've owned 3 DSM and 1 8 so I know nothing about 4b11Ts personally.

    If you didn't notice I wasn't even knockin Shep in the first place. Next time bring more fire considering your a Wyotech student.

  • @sr20tuner blah blah blah, i don't care what you have.

  • mustang lost plane and simple. doesn't matter whats done to what or who has more power. point is he got side to side with the dsm and dsm whooped it.

  • the mustang crossed the line first, regardless thats a win. The dsm is a great car no doubt about it but 1/10 of a second is hardly " whooped "

  • @voltwings WRONG!!!!!!! doesn't matter, it wasn't heads up . was bracket racing so there for stang got whomped on.

  • @subyboy ok then, i do stand corrected, however its still hardly "whomped on"

  • @voltwings i was joking, WHY SO SERIOUS?????? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!!!!! ;D

  • @subyboy i wasnt looking to start one of those ridiculous giant ass youtube fights haha

  • i here ya.. it's just funny to dick around thats all. sr20tuner is getting but hurt and listing his mods to me. hilarious.

  • The Mustang ran 7.86 @ 184.32 MPH

    Sheppard ran 7.70 @ 191.32 MPH

  • just let em get traction thats all i ask,lol mabey shoulda bought a subaru

  • @TheScoobyRS you are an idiot and an embarrassment to the awd community. go kill yourself. that dsm is perfectly fine and built well.

  • Who said it wasnt built fine? Also, how exactly am i a "embarrassment"?

  • One more thing subaru is alot better than this sorry to burst ya bubble. Both awd an look how skidish it is to subaru an sholdnt you know SUBYBOY!!!!

  • @TheScoobyRS i forgot to add. for it's time. it was one of the few all wheel drives that were advance during the late 80s and early 90's my fault.. I SAID MY BAD!!!!!!!

  • @TheScoobyRS i swear you are not making any sense. skidish? is that even a word. and now that you mention it. yes you are an embarrassment because you do not know wtf you are talking about. i used to be ignorant and had nothing but love for suby's until i have seen what a dsm and an EVO is capable of. yes. the evo has a more advance awd sytem than the subaru symetrical awd system. and also, my 95 impreza L with a full 2.5 forester swap will beat the crap out of you rs.

  • @subyboy go read ya mail, dont want to embarrase you on here with all your friends aight..

  • @TheScoobyRS yeah ok, that's cute.

  • @TheScoobyRS oh and i'm sure i know more than you.

  • @eagle: ive been informed on what it is fuckface

  • The Talon actually ran a faster E.T. than the mustang Mr. Shepherd just left a tad bit after him and couldn't quite run him down, but he was coming back.

  • Two words. HOLY FUCK

  • that mustang must have run a 7.68 or something close..2 sick cars!!!

  • 7.8 actually.

  • @n808tp i watched the outside view of this race and realised that after yeah

  • you are correct, i was there

  • ok so if the supra ran a 7.70, and the mustang beat it, how can the mustang run a slower time?

    riddle me that please id really like to know

  • @playbaseball815 its brakcet racing u noob its

  • maybe they had different qualifying times so the mustang would actually leave before the supra

  • what supra you moron? reaction time has no affect on the quarter mile time. drag racing 101

  • idk y i called it a supra i thought i had read it in the description fuck tart

  • FYI DSM = eclipse/talon/laser = not a supra

  • Yep that sure is one fast mustang.

  • Ya but a faster Dsm.

  • @importkillergto

    fast mustang, but it got the slower et and trap, he just had a better reaction time

  • Chassis.

  • that was a friggin fast fox body

  • He was catching the stang at the end. I love my DSM, but gotta respect a fast stang ;)

  • I think the mustang ran 7.85..so shep won

  • Yep Mustang = 7.85 @ 185 and John = 7.70 @ 191

  • Nice, even better lol

  • Lol correction brotha, he was catching the Stang from the start brah. He would have gotten the stang if the reaction time was better on Johns side.

  • That makes it all the better to own a DSM haha, I love my car

  • sick!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • push clutch in with shute !!!