@stonekeeper86 I do not agree with you, el G is also 5000m Olympic champion, holds the second best record of all time in 3000m, throughout his career he beat Gibressilasie, ngene, Lagat, Coman, Morceli, Bekele ... pity he has not run against a Wilson Kipketer
El G and Gebresselasie are both phenomenal but I think we are comparing two athletes that really shouldnt be compared. El G is the best 1500m-Miler of all time and Gebresselasie dominated distance running for a decade from 1990-2000 from 3k up to 10k. I would put El G more in the Middle Distance category and Haile would be for sure Long Distance.
Now with Haile out of his prime on the track he is dominating the Marathon! I think having Former World Records at 5k, 10k and having a Current World Record in the Marathon puts him as the greatest distance runner of all time, at least that is my opinion for now. Bekele is right there though obviously having the current 5k and 10k world records. Should be interesting to see if Bekele will eventually take up the Half Marathon and Marathon distance when he is done on the track.
Bekele is faster indeed due to better methods and newer technology; flywire, lighter singlets, smarter pacers, etc. But Haile in his prime versus Bekele is a given Haile will win. A 5k its bekele...
How is it different? Hicham's personal best for the 5k is also better than Haile's personal best. He's better than Haile at any distance 5k and lower imo.
you couldn't be more wrong. Hicham's 5k personal best is much slower than Haile's (12:50 vs 12:39). Also the olympics 5k race of which Hicham won was a slower/tactical race. I'm taking nothing away from the greatness of Hicham but lets not take anything away from the likes of Bekele and and Geb. Bekele 12:36
You're right. I was looking at his indoor personal best. I still think Hicham could beat Haile if he could beat Bekele. Bekele is definitely better than Haile at the 5k and the 10k.
Yeah ... that's right .. but remember that bekele and haile are more better in 10.000 km and over that distance respect el guerrouj that is better in 1500 and 2000 mt (WR holder) bekele is actual king in 5000 mt and 10.000 mt .... But Haile Is the king of the king Because He is the king of marathon !!!! (2:03:59 H)
I think he could with the proper training. He beat Haile's personal best at almost every other distance. I think he could beat Haile's personal best with the marathon as well. I'd like to see Bekele try for a 2 hour marathon.
Smarter but not better. I think Bekele could beat Haile in a fast paced race or a slow paced race. He has just as much stamina and more foot speed than Haile.
@joeyyowee I was refering to bekele losing to el guerouj in a 5k. Sorry I should have clarified that my belief is Gebrselassie would not lose a 5k against guerouj. As for Haile vs. Bekele, Bekele does have more foot speed, and he could very possibly beat Haile in his prime but I believ if anybody was to beat Bekele, it would be Haile.
IMO gebre's still the best ever. El Guerrouj beat him here because he's a better middle distance runner but in terms of long distances nobodys done what Haile has in terms of absolutely destroying world records.
That gebresselasie could live with Guerrouj over the mostpart of this short distance and then go on to take the marathon WR is a testament to his greatness. Good luck in you quest for 30 WR Haille!!!
wow that was one helluva a race, el gerrouj had the upper hand tho with a faster pr and finish, but gebrselassie rlly wont go down without a fight. great race by both phenomenal ruinners :D
i agree, both are legendary, i think gebresselasie is more geared towards longer distance, like 5000m-marathon, whil el g is a specialist in middle distance. Not to mention el g trained like a sprinter, so of course he would have the faster finishing kick, dont get me wrong, gebresselasie is probably the greatest distance runner of all time, but when it comes to 1500m-2000m, el guerrouj is the king
Bekele is the best at the moment. Don't know if he's the greatest ever. He's had a little trouble beating El Guerrouj in the 5000 (mainly cause Bekele was running like an idiot seeing how he has an astonishing world record in that) but he's been winning most of the 10,000 and 5000 meter golds for the past several years at major races.
I agree with you! Holding the World recorder, Bekele did not use the right speed during the race, in order to leave Guerrouj without final sprint. Guerrouj he`s an expert running 1500, and very difficult to beat in the last 100 meters. I dont know if he lost any 1500 or mile until now... One thing I know, Bekele will be the number one ever, for many years.Thanks Dillestman!
i would love to have seen haile and el g in a 3000m. 1500m is a bit short for haile and el g is king. But haile was king over 5000m so it would of been very interesting to see who would come out in top over 3k.
@sslider08 i dont think guerrouj has a faster finish by itself, he is just able to run faster paces more comfortably since it is that in which he is specialized (miler vs long distance athlete)... but haile's kick is pretty strong, in fact haile has in numerous occasions opted for tactical races while guerrouj showed over his career he enjoys to take it out early and not leave it for the fast kickers
@undertakerkanecena78 Haile won every big race and has the records while El Guerrouj lost every major race except the last one. I'm talking about the olympics and the world champs. El Guerrouj chokes in big races like asafa powell
@MrRedskins0021 El Guerrouj chokes in big races?.... He only lost like 4-5 races in his career!... Only major race he lost was Syd2000... He won 4 x World Champs (97,99,01,03) and 1 x Olympics (Tripped 96, Lost 00, Won 04). He also won a stack of Golden League and other big races.
@MrRedskins0021 el guerrouj holds the 1500meters, and mile + 2000 meter record and has a Olympic gold medal and has won gold in the world championships many times and you are saying he's like asafa powell, am asafa doesnt have a Olympic gold medal, or even a world championship medal, or a world record so do me a favor STOP TALKING SHIT, and dont say stuff thats making u look like a total 3 brain cells idiot
I love both these runners, but Haille's range makes him unbelievable. WRs from 2000 to marathon! This is not to belittle El Guerrouj, but he was supposed to win. Haille was on his turf.
Flyinginspiration, Coe was great, but another runner had similar records. Goolge up Jim Ryun. WRs in the 880yards (800m), 1500, mile indoor and out.
Any runner in these conversations deserves respect and not denigrated by making comparisons.
Ryun broke the 880yds once, the 1500m once and the Mile record twice. Coe broke the 800m twice, 1000m twice, 1500m once and Mile 3 times. Far more records than Ryun and 2 lasted for almost 20 years! NO OTHER runner in history has held all 4 middle distance records simultaneously. Ryun won only a silver medal in his whole career, Coe had 7 gold, 5 silver and a bronze. There is no comparison.
GEB isn't a middle distance runner! he's long distance (probably greatest ever) & EL G isn't a true middle distance exponent because he did nothing at 800m. Aouita got one medal at 800m, but didn't win enough medals at 1500m to be considered the greatest middle distance runner, either. he probably had the greatest range.
I disagree. His not running the 800m does not make him "not a middle distance exponent;" having the world record indoor and outdoors, four world titles, plus an olympic title, over eighty wins (five undefeated seasons, and three with one loss each), not to mention the world leading time for eight consecutive years, the first, second, fourth, fifth, sixth, etc... fastest times and so on make him truly one of the greatest middle distance runners (and I think Coe would agree :))))
Different eras, different criteria! They didn't have World Champs during Coe's peak years, and then they were only held every 4 years. There are loads of double & triple world Champions from EL G's & subsequent eras as they were held every 2 years! There wasn't an indoor circuit across Europe with big dollars up for grabs in the early 80's as there was in the late 90's, so indoor world records are pretty meaningless in comparing the 2.
As a matter of interest Coe ran a handful of indoor races in his career, many on the hard wooden boards at Cosford, & still managed to win the European indoor gold and set 2 world records. Do you really think Coe couldn't have run 1500m indoors in 3:35 (the then WR) if he wanted to? With regards to having "so many" of the fastest times at 1500m, yes he does & it I believe he is one of the all time greatest runners, full stop.
However, the fact that he had a whole host of Moroccan international runners whose entire raison d'etre was to pace him in training and then set him a v. fast (often WR) pace in almost every grand prix race on the circuit, has a lot to do with that. There wasn't any prize money at all until 1982 and even then most athletes ran to win rather than just run fast times. If you know anything about UK running at that time, Coe was restricted in where he could run abroad.
Coe represented his county 8 times in 81 alone out of 22 races, & there were no major champs that year! EL G didn't have to run for Morocco outside the major Champs.
When assessing all time greatness you can only use criteria that is common to both athletes when comparing them from different eras. The most important are Olympic medals & outdoor WR's.
In both departments Coe's record is superior: Coe= 2 golds, 2 silvers (from the 2 main middle distance events), EL G= 2 gold, 1 silver (1 gold coming in the 5k, which isn't middle distance!); Coe= 8 WR's (from 4 events, 2 of which are Olympic ones), EL G= 3 WR's from 3 events (only 1 an Olympic event). Coe has become v. modest with age and is on record as saying that EL G was the greatest "miler" he has seen; though he wouldn't say he was himself, would he?
However, EL G is also on record as having "named Coe unhesitatingly as the best sportsman of all time, bar none" (Alastair Campbell, Times Online, Feb 15th 2005). I don't necessarily agree with either view. EL G has a v. good claim to being the greatest 1500m runner of all time, but certainly not the best "middle distance runner" . For that you have to look at the records of athletes over 800 & 1500/Mile primarily; & in that instance Coe would be very much higher up the list than EL G.
As for El G naming Seb Coe the best sportsman... very interesting. I'll look that up. As for best middle distance runner... El G may not be it, but your statement about him "not being a middle distance exponent" is simply untrue. He is, without a doubt, one of the greatest middle distance runners of all time and for that there is no doubt.
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I actually said "EL G isn't a true middle distance exponent because he did nothing at 800m." Not quite the same. I have already said that ELG is one of the greatest athletes ever, and of course he is one of the best "middle distance runners" ever, but for me it is more important to have achieved things over 800m (an Olympic event) rather than 2000m or even 5000m, which is a long distance event.
First, it probably would have been at least a silver in 1996 had El G not fell: he won 10 out of 11 races that year, including ending Morceli's long reign over 1500m. Second, you should know that lots of world records are set in eras of fierce competition: Coe vs Ovett, Gebreselassie vs Tergat and Komen, and now Dibaba vs. Defar. It is different from having a total monopoly on dominance with the likes of Morceli and El G, who had nobody challenge their records at their prime.
Far from it, Coe was 1.71 secs faster than anyone else in history over 800m from 81-84 and he didn't get the chance to run against Ovett over 1500m apart from the Olympics. He was undefeated at any distance in 79 & 81, and didn't lose a race over 1500m/Mile from 1977 to 1983. ELG not challenged!?? Didn't he have Lagat a stride behind him pushing him to 3:26.12 and Ngeny a stride behind when he broke the Mile record? Coe had no one within 40m when he broke his 800 & 1k records.
ELG had some excellent, even pace making when he ran his fastest times, the few occasions Coe went for a WR at 1500m/Mile the pace was always dreadful. There wasn't anyone else in the world who was capable let alone prepared to take him to 1200m in c 2:48. Pace making in the 80's was pretty dire generally, but by the late 90's ELG had a whole troupe of athletes running almost exactly the times they were asked to do.
((Coe represented his county 8 times in 81 alone out of 22 races, & there were no major champs that year! EL G didn't have to run for Morocco outside the major Champs))- that's: 1) very vague- represented how? 2) irrelevant
Not at all if you are aware of the international athletics scene in the late 70's early '80's. ELG basically had the freedom to run where & when he wanted, with his band of personal training companions and pace makers, for big prize money around the lucrative circuits of Europe. He made each of his 12 or so races count by making sure he ran fast, thus negating the chance of being beaten/outkicked in a slower paced race.
In Coe's era the BAAA required you to run a certain number of "matches" against other nations (something which doesn't really exist now) before they'd allow you to run abroad in invitation meets (of which there were fewer than in the 90's anyway). Thus, during '81 Coe ran in matches against the GDR, USA, Belgium, Ethiopia, the USSR and in the Europa Cup semi & final & then for Europe in the World Cup. These races were about winning & points for the country not about times and pace makers.
So he had far fewer opportunities to go out and run fast times due to these commitments. Despite this, he still managed to break 4 outdoor world records that season alone, more than ELG set outdoors in his entire career.
Yes, El G had some of his countrymen set fast paces for him to match, but he has proven on a whole bunch of occasion, with slow and fast pacing, that he is capable of winning. None of his world records, nor his other fastest times, nor Olympic titles were set with the help of Moroccan teammates by the way, so your ((pace in almost every grand prix race on the circuit)) is untrue. And you can't say that fast times did not motivate Coe... winning is priority #1, but times/ WRs motivated.
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Of course he was capable of winning most races, but you have to admit that his races were more often than not fast, and he was paced by his team mates on several occasions, especially in major Championships, guaranteeing that the race was run (with it getting increasingly faster from 800m out) exactly to benefit ELG's strengths. Of course ELG still had to win these races but it was a very different landscape to what used to happen in the early '80's.
No, I don't doubt that Seb Coe's abilities were as amazing indoors as it was outdoors. But maybe he wasn't interested in doing so, just as El G wasn't interested in running 800 meters. Do you doubt El G's capabilities in this distance- remember his 1:46.70 last 800m in the Olympics? Sometimes major 800m finals are not run inside that time. Maybe he wouldn't have done something like 1'41"73, but his capabilities are much more than what you label them.
Of course ELG could have run 1:43, but he didn't and never competed in a major grand prix race let alone a Major Champs at the distance. He never even run under 2:14 for 1000m, the nearest distance to 800m. Many believe Coe could have run a 3:27/28 1500m but he didn't. Do you really think Coe was only worth his 14:06 pb at 5k? when he did 5k training sessions with Hutchings (13:11 man) of 7x 800m with 45 secs rest at 13:20 speed.
Coe easily beat Coghlan (83 World 5000m champion) & Mcloud (future Olympic 10000m champion) in a 4 mile road race in 78 (beating Foster's course record by 9 secs), so he would have been able to run 13:10 - 13:20 anytime without specialist training. But, he never run 5000m seriously, so he can't be called the best 1500/5k runner of all time based on what he did at 1500m & what he "could" potentially do at 5000m. Thats basically the argument you're trying to make about ELG over 800m!
No there wasn't world championships, but there were others, like Euro, Commonwealth, etc... for which Coe did not win one gold (800m) until 1986. Yes there weren't world champs in his era (there was one in '87 though, which his illness in '83 can't excuse). Yes there are double and triple champions, but only El G is the only quadruple at middle distance event(s). As for indoor circuit... don't see what your point is.
Please note that I mean no disrespect Seb Coe. Your overzealous apples to oranges comparisons to any and every athlete who don't meet the sort of standards or circumstances as Seb Coe, therefore reducing them to mediocrity in some shape or form.
I think you're contradicting yourself and not understanding the point! The guy posting this video describes it as "the battle of the greatest middle distance runners of all time". GEB is a long distance runner and ELG is a 1500m runner who did some great runs over 2000-5000m. Wikipedia describes middle distance as "800m, 1500m, Mile & the 3000m (which is viewed by some as more of a long distance event". The Encyclopaedia Britannica says it ranges "from 800 to 2000m".
You are comparing apples to oranges by talking about indoor WR's and number of world titles which cannot be compared due to the differences in the conditions of the time. ELG could compete in 5 or 6 World Champs before he was 30, Coe had 1 opportunity but couldn't compete because he was ill. I am using just apples to compare apples (Olympics, which are held every 4 years during every athlete's career) and oranges to oranges (world records).
Coe was out all season in '87 with a foot injury & was 31 then, so past his best. He missed opportunity of running in at least 8 finals due to illness/injury. He actually won 2 European Cup golds & World Cup gold at 800m before '86, where the fields he met were superior ones to the Moscow final. He would certainly have won both 800 & 1500 in the '82 Euro & Comm had he not been struck down with glandular fever. Had they had World Champs in 79,81, etc, he would have won at least 3 in his career.
hahahahahahaha.....wrong... what about the great moroccan said aouita who held 1500m,2000m,2miles,3000m,5000m..that will make it 5 records at once more than anybody in the history of track & field
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Wrong about what? You're one of those people who uses this as some kind of nationalistic flag waving forum rather than actually appreciating athletics. You can only relate to Moroccan athletes and have no regard for anyone else. There were great athletes around the world long before the Moroccans came on the scene my friend. I know about Aouita's world records thanks, 3 of which weren't middle distance. And for your information and education, Ron Clarke held 7 records simultaneously!
3 Miles, 5000m, 6 Miles, 10,000m, 10 Miles, 20,000m and the 1 hour! And they are LONG distance events, as opposed to the 800m, 1000m, 1500m, 1 Mile and 2000m, which are MIDDLE distance. Clarke's 7 records between 1966-67 is 2 more than Aouita, and most of those were done solo, without a clique of pacemakers. Try not to be so blinkered and find out about the history of the sport rather than just your own country, before making inaccurate sweeping statements.
3000m is middle distance by the way....i'm actually starting to think that you are seb coe himself...i'm not joking...u don't seem to be very happy with how things turned out and history put hicham el guerrouj as the greatest runner of all time
Seb Coe himself wouldn't need to explain himself. Lol. Some people view 3000m as middle distance, some don't (read the Wikipeadia & Britannica definitions). Coe's place in history is assured as is ELG's, and he doesn't need "History" (whatever your definition of who or what this is!?) to tell him otherwise. Your complete disregard to any of the comments I made about Clarke and your blinkered view of the sport just reinforces your insecurity.
As an aside, I can send you a link if you want, where Guerrouj stated to The Times newspaper in 2005, when asked who was the greatest runner of all time, "Coe".
i think u're going little to far with your comment there buddy...i'm just a regular fan who posts videos just like anybody else...el guerrouj is the greatest by the way!
correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not though) but isn't 'middle distance' from 800 - 1 mile? If El G is in fact the greatest exponent of middle distance running then why did he not achieve anything at 800 metres? (que tumbleweed :P)
That's like calling michael johnson the greatest sprinter of all time even though he did nothing at 100m for god's sake.
Only one runner has achieved world records and major medals at distances 800 - 1500 and his name is sebastien coe.
Haile's debut marathon was in 2002, beforehand he was a 5,000 and 10,000 specialist. Of course, Haile has dabbled into many different distances and has been very successful, hence his 2,000 meter record back in 1998. Nowadays he is considered a marathon runner, but to consider him just that, is slightly inaccurate.
Truth2btold66 is obviously from Ethiopia...asking a miler to run a marathon is moronic and would actually be rather sad to see. Nothing wrong with retiring gracefully and moving into other things.
wow. what a stupid conversation. how about saying el guerrouj is the best middle distance runner ever, gebreselassie is the best long distance runner ever, and that's it.
yeh i know. theres no disputing that so evry1 stop sayin shit bout either of thm. geurrouj best middle distance, gebreselassie best long distance. koobeeziak soou nd like the only one who knows what hes talkin about
how can you say that, when running go beyond track and field ?? even in track there a field called 10k. Then there is cross country, road races at various distances, marathon, half-marathon, which your percious boy didn't even dare to touch. What is so great about that ?? Haile didn't do well in cross country but he was there in the top 5, whenever he race.
One can not really compare him to Haile. Haile is still kicking and he ranges from middle distance to Marathon. Haile is in a class of his own. The only place Haile didn't dominate is the cross country field. In that regard, I have high respect for Paul Tergat. With Kenenisa, the future will tell, so far he has controled cross country and track.
come again ? El Guerruouj only stayed in track. That is my point. On top of that,In running bussiness, 29 is very early age to retire. Hell, even Paul Tergat start running at the age 24. 29 is the age one start really becomes mature in running. Your guy didn't even run 10,000 and steaple chase. And you telling us he has nothing to prove. If you ask me he retire very early. Miruts Yifter of Ethiopia earned 2 gold in 5000 and 10000 in his 40's during the moscow olympic.
you want him to run steeple and 10000m so he can prove to you that he's great...u must be out of your mind dude really!!the guy took middle distance running by storm took to a whole different level his world record are still standing 4world champs 2olympic golds what else do u want...go take a nap
No I don't want him to do steeple. At least that is whole different ball game. But what about 10000m ? middle distance running include that too. Also, road racing and x-country. 2 gold medals ?? Miruts the shifter did that and he was a beast on road race and x-country. Most importantly don't compare him whith Haile, because Haile also set records from middle distance to long distance and still kicking; while your boy took an early nap...now let me do my napping.
middle distance includes 10000m??....now u must be on some type of medication or something because that sounds like u don't know much about distance running at all man...el guerrouj had only one goal and that is to be the best middle distance runner ever...let me rephraze what middle distance events are again(1500,1mile,2000m,3000m).
come on now, 2000m. nobody even pay attention to that stuff. It is not even included in any kind of world championship nor olympic. It is like that 1hr run track run that Haile set record somewhere in Europe. It is true 1000m is not considered middle distance by defenition. But it is an event that most of the time go in hand with 3k,5k and 1500. Most runners who do 5k do 10k most of the time. Haile has shattered records from 1500 to Marathon and still kicking; while your boy stayed limited.
i don't understand why u make such a claim...el guerrouj is one of the most if not the most humble athletes out there dude...obviously u don't know much about this legend
seul un geant peut battre l ethiopien au sommet de sa force.
lotfijalal 2 weeks ago
2 great atlhetes
Johnandvanessa 1 month ago
I'd like to see El Guerrouj beat Gebrselassie in any 5000m+ race
MrGuitaristMatt 2 months ago
Both are two of the best distance runners ever.
jupitercrash07 3 months ago
dangereux BIG HICHAM
lmachlouf 5 months ago
Tall rules the mile
kozmon0t 6 months ago
el guerrouj kapooo de todos
martyn265 6 months ago
Hicham reste le seul athlète qui gagné tous ces concurrents forts:
NOUREDDINE MORCELLI ALG
DANIEL KOMAN KEN
HAILE GEBRESELLESIE ETH
KENINISA BEKELLE ETH
MrHassanechalabi 10 months ago 2
God Geb has range
camxcstud 11 months ago
the king of 1500mtr hicham el garoug
abdeloujda1 1 year ago
the distance is not fair!
MyFreedMan 1 year ago
Its a pity that Noah only got to smack him down once until injury.
TehAwesomeness 1 year ago
yeah haile is long distance, not middle distance.
toby099 1 year ago
GREAT MOROCCAN ATHLETE!!!!
redbing 1 year ago
El Guerrouj was a joy to watch .
great runner !!
rubberdildos 1 year ago 2
Haile got beat live with it !! you can't change history with what if's !!!.
rubberdildos 1 year ago
Hicham is Grand
Moroccan4lifeone 1 year ago
El MÁS GRANDE MEDIOFONDISTA DE LA HISTORIA: HICHAM.
elmagomerlin03 1 year ago
I agree with you trackstar4979, comparisons of this type are irrelevent.
stonekeeper86 1 year ago
@stonekeeper86 I do not agree with you, el G is also 5000m Olympic champion, holds the second best record of all time in 3000m, throughout his career he beat Gibressilasie, ngene, Lagat, Coman, Morceli, Bekele ... pity he has not run against a Wilson Kipketer
123belkoy 1 year ago
El G and Gebresselasie are both phenomenal but I think we are comparing two athletes that really shouldnt be compared. El G is the best 1500m-Miler of all time and Gebresselasie dominated distance running for a decade from 1990-2000 from 3k up to 10k. I would put El G more in the Middle Distance category and Haile would be for sure Long Distance.
trackstar4979 1 year ago
Now with Haile out of his prime on the track he is dominating the Marathon! I think having Former World Records at 5k, 10k and having a Current World Record in the Marathon puts him as the greatest distance runner of all time, at least that is my opinion for now. Bekele is right there though obviously having the current 5k and 10k world records. Should be interesting to see if Bekele will eventually take up the Half Marathon and Marathon distance when he is done on the track.
trackstar4979 1 year ago
100% Haile for Long Distance he has the world record for the marathon
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trackstar4979 1 year ago
thats a load of sheeps bollox...my dad's the fastest and i should know 'cos if he catches me writing this i'm fucked!!!!
ha ha fuckin ha!!!
shakey989 1 year ago
Hicham el guerrouj is the best
aissaino 1 year ago
hicham el guerrouj beat bekele 2 times in 5000m
bestofMD 1 year ago 6
it's not bekele it's el guerrouj fucking asshole and he's the 1500m world record holder so fuck you.
MrHabib76 1 year ago 3
Bekele is faster indeed due to better methods and newer technology; flywire, lighter singlets, smarter pacers, etc. But Haile in his prime versus Bekele is a given Haile will win. A 5k its bekele...
mamowolde 2 years ago
Wong......Bekele is faster. He has a better kick. Singlets. ok. Singlets. No they figured that in Bill Rogers time.
newromantic888 2 years ago
No way.
newromantic888 2 years ago
Nothing has changed in this time frame....Bekele is a better track athlete. Marathon well.......I cant argue.
newromantic888 2 years ago
more like greatest middle distance and greatest long distance
mooseman427 2 years ago
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hichambabtelbir 2 years ago
Guerrouj is better in the 1500 mt because of haile is 5000 and 10.000 king
juninhopernambucano3 2 years ago
I think he could beat Haile in the 5k. He beat Bekele in the 5k and Bekele is the record holder.
joeyyowee 2 years ago 4
I think you're right saying this ...
juninhopernambucano3 2 years ago
@joeyyowee that was the olympics... kind of different...
12samgold 2 years ago
How is it different? Hicham's personal best for the 5k is also better than Haile's personal best. He's better than Haile at any distance 5k and lower imo.
joeyyowee 2 years ago 2
you couldn't be more wrong. Hicham's 5k personal best is much slower than Haile's (12:50 vs 12:39). Also the olympics 5k race of which Hicham won was a slower/tactical race. I'm taking nothing away from the greatness of Hicham but lets not take anything away from the likes of Bekele and and Geb. Bekele 12:36
rebpharoh 2 years ago
You're right. I was looking at his indoor personal best. I still think Hicham could beat Haile if he could beat Bekele. Bekele is definitely better than Haile at the 5k and the 10k.
joeyyowee 2 years ago 4
Yeah ... that's right .. but remember that bekele and haile are more better in 10.000 km and over that distance respect el guerrouj that is better in 1500 and 2000 mt (WR holder) bekele is actual king in 5000 mt and 10.000 mt .... But Haile Is the king of the king Because He is the king of marathon !!!! (2:03:59 H)
juninhopernambucano3 2 years ago
I'm confident that Bekele will beat Haile's time if he moves to the marathon.
joeyyowee 2 years ago
I think bekele never will beat 2:03:59 .. it's legendary time ....
juninhopernambucano3 2 years ago
I think he could with the proper training. He beat Haile's personal best at almost every other distance. I think he could beat Haile's personal best with the marathon as well. I'd like to see Bekele try for a 2 hour marathon.
joeyyowee 2 years ago
bekele 2 hour in the marathon ?!?! are you sure about what you said ?! that's crazy man !!!
juninhopernambucano3 2 years ago
We are talking about the greatest distance runner of all time. Anything is possible as far as Bekele is concerned. The guy is like a machine.
joeyyowee 2 years ago
I know bekele is a myth ... but you can't disappoint haile .... it's not honest .. Respect the actual WR holder Gebresselasie !!!
juninhopernambucano3 2 years ago
I respect him as well. He's my 2nd favorite runner of all time after Bekele.
joeyyowee 2 years ago
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but hichm hs bet bekele
samir147 4 months ago
@juninhopernambucano3 It's less than two years old and under possible assault in the next week, so I'd hardly call it legendary just yet...
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
that's wrong ... anyway we will see
juninhopernambucano3 2 years ago
@joeyyowee I think Haile is a smarter runner than Bekele, with a faster pace in the 5000 Guerrouj would have had a tougher time winning.
Winston408 2 years ago
Smarter but not better. I think Bekele could beat Haile in a fast paced race or a slow paced race. He has just as much stamina and more foot speed than Haile.
joeyyowee 2 years ago
@joeyyowee I was refering to bekele losing to el guerouj in a 5k. Sorry I should have clarified that my belief is Gebrselassie would not lose a 5k against guerouj. As for Haile vs. Bekele, Bekele does have more foot speed, and he could very possibly beat Haile in his prime but I believ if anybody was to beat Bekele, it would be Haile.
Winston408 2 years ago
IMO gebre's still the best ever. El Guerrouj beat him here because he's a better middle distance runner but in terms of long distances nobodys done what Haile has in terms of absolutely destroying world records.
Winston408 2 years ago 3
wow guerrouj freaking DROPPED haile.
jrersinghaus 2 years ago
at the 2003 world championships , Bekele set an early fast pace , but still lost to El Guerrouj.
at the 2004 olympics , the pace was relatively slow but El Gurrouj still beat bekele.
this shows that El Gurrouj has the ability to win in both fast and slow pace races
XiaoKeKe2 2 years ago
Actually they are really young in this video...
muzacallysound 2 years ago
Moroccoooo!!!!
Y0ussef0 2 years ago 17
he would be even faster if he wasnt that old( gebresselasie )
MrAnimeFreak777 2 years ago
Haile was born in 1973, Hicham in 1974 so they're both older in this race, lol.
muzacallysound 2 years ago
I think this race was in 1997, so Gebresselasie was 24 and El Guerrouj was 23.
chuckmanofgod 2 years ago
That gebresselasie could live with Guerrouj over the mostpart of this short distance and then go on to take the marathon WR is a testament to his greatness. Good luck in you quest for 30 WR Haille!!!
mc1703 2 years ago 3
le roi des rois ci hichame
ayathamo 2 years ago 8
wat?
dc3rvant3s 2 years ago
wow that was one helluva a race, el gerrouj had the upper hand tho with a faster pr and finish, but gebrselassie rlly wont go down without a fight. great race by both phenomenal ruinners :D
hawaiirules 2 years ago
i agree, both are legendary, i think gebresselasie is more geared towards longer distance, like 5000m-marathon, whil el g is a specialist in middle distance. Not to mention el g trained like a sprinter, so of course he would have the faster finishing kick, dont get me wrong, gebresselasie is probably the greatest distance runner of all time, but when it comes to 1500m-2000m, el guerrouj is the king
halokev14 2 years ago
Bekele is the new best of the world ever. Wise man said, that he is the only one with skills to run the marathon, under 2:03. Lets wait and see...
Cordeiro757 2 years ago
Bekele is the best at the moment. Don't know if he's the greatest ever. He's had a little trouble beating El Guerrouj in the 5000 (mainly cause Bekele was running like an idiot seeing how he has an astonishing world record in that) but he's been winning most of the 10,000 and 5000 meter golds for the past several years at major races.
Dillestman 2 years ago
I agree with you! Holding the World recorder, Bekele did not use the right speed during the race, in order to leave Guerrouj without final sprint. Guerrouj he`s an expert running 1500, and very difficult to beat in the last 100 meters. I dont know if he lost any 1500 or mile until now... One thing I know, Bekele will be the number one ever, for many years.Thanks Dillestman!
Cordeiro757 2 years ago
Haha you're welcome.
Dillestman 2 years ago
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does anybody know Hicham el guerrouj
height / weight / and inside leg measurement
as I need it for college sports profile
olympicchamp 2 years ago
Hey Deano: i heard a rumor that you were Steve Ovett! You were always my favorite!
knightsxc06 2 years ago 3
i would love to have seen haile and el g in a 3000m. 1500m is a bit short for haile and el g is king. But haile was king over 5000m so it would of been very interesting to see who would come out in top over 3k.
racketer 2 years ago 7
el guerrouj will still have the upper hand given he has a better PB over 3000m at 7:23,06 to geb's 7:25...besides el guerrouj has a faster finish!
sslider08 2 years ago
@sslider08 i dont think guerrouj has a faster finish by itself, he is just able to run faster paces more comfortably since it is that in which he is specialized (miler vs long distance athlete)... but haile's kick is pretty strong, in fact haile has in numerous occasions opted for tactical races while guerrouj showed over his career he enjoys to take it out early and not leave it for the fast kickers
4526016 11 months ago
@sslider08 7.23.09
Lepard112 5 months ago
@racketer El Guerrouj can win haile in any distance till 10km because he has the speed in the last lap and he can keep up with haile
undertakerkanecena78 8 months ago
@undertakerkanecena78 Haile won every big race and has the records while El Guerrouj lost every major race except the last one. I'm talking about the olympics and the world champs. El Guerrouj chokes in big races like asafa powell
MrRedskins0021 8 months ago
@MrRedskins0021 El Guerrouj chokes in big races?.... He only lost like 4-5 races in his career!... Only major race he lost was Syd2000... He won 4 x World Champs (97,99,01,03) and 1 x Olympics (Tripped 96, Lost 00, Won 04). He also won a stack of Golden League and other big races.
gav800 8 months ago
@MrRedskins0021 Yeah i know but we are talking about normal 10km races he would have confidence to win
undertakerkanecena78 7 months ago
@MrRedskins0021 el guerrouj holds the 1500meters, and mile + 2000 meter record and has a Olympic gold medal and has won gold in the world championships many times and you are saying he's like asafa powell, am asafa doesnt have a Olympic gold medal, or even a world championship medal, or a world record so do me a favor STOP TALKING SHIT, and dont say stuff thats making u look like a total 3 brain cells idiot
moonwalker5800 6 months ago
@racketer Elguerrouj had also won 5000m the specialty of Gebresselasie. Elguerrouj become the King after 1997 of whole the distance in 800 to 5000.
quicksilver130 5 months ago
I love both these runners, but Haille's range makes him unbelievable. WRs from 2000 to marathon! This is not to belittle El Guerrouj, but he was supposed to win. Haille was on his turf.
Flyinginspiration, Coe was great, but another runner had similar records. Goolge up Jim Ryun. WRs in the 880yards (800m), 1500, mile indoor and out.
Any runner in these conversations deserves respect and not denigrated by making comparisons.
rykoslavi 2 years ago
Ryun broke the 880yds once, the 1500m once and the Mile record twice. Coe broke the 800m twice, 1000m twice, 1500m once and Mile 3 times. Far more records than Ryun and 2 lasted for almost 20 years! NO OTHER runner in history has held all 4 middle distance records simultaneously. Ryun won only a silver medal in his whole career, Coe had 7 gold, 5 silver and a bronze. There is no comparison.
deano27671 2 years ago
GEB isn't a middle distance runner! he's long distance (probably greatest ever) & EL G isn't a true middle distance exponent because he did nothing at 800m. Aouita got one medal at 800m, but didn't win enough medals at 1500m to be considered the greatest middle distance runner, either. he probably had the greatest range.
deano27671 2 years ago
I disagree. His not running the 800m does not make him "not a middle distance exponent;" having the world record indoor and outdoors, four world titles, plus an olympic title, over eighty wins (five undefeated seasons, and three with one loss each), not to mention the world leading time for eight consecutive years, the first, second, fourth, fifth, sixth, etc... fastest times and so on make him truly one of the greatest middle distance runners (and I think Coe would agree :))))
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago 3
Hey, I even forgot about his world indoor 1500m golds. Chalk two more for that record (a third if you count the 3000m in 2001).
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago 3
Different eras, different criteria! They didn't have World Champs during Coe's peak years, and then they were only held every 4 years. There are loads of double & triple world Champions from EL G's & subsequent eras as they were held every 2 years! There wasn't an indoor circuit across Europe with big dollars up for grabs in the early 80's as there was in the late 90's, so indoor world records are pretty meaningless in comparing the 2.
deano27671 2 years ago
As a matter of interest Coe ran a handful of indoor races in his career, many on the hard wooden boards at Cosford, & still managed to win the European indoor gold and set 2 world records. Do you really think Coe couldn't have run 1500m indoors in 3:35 (the then WR) if he wanted to? With regards to having "so many" of the fastest times at 1500m, yes he does & it I believe he is one of the all time greatest runners, full stop.
deano27671 2 years ago
However, the fact that he had a whole host of Moroccan international runners whose entire raison d'etre was to pace him in training and then set him a v. fast (often WR) pace in almost every grand prix race on the circuit, has a lot to do with that. There wasn't any prize money at all until 1982 and even then most athletes ran to win rather than just run fast times. If you know anything about UK running at that time, Coe was restricted in where he could run abroad.
deano27671 2 years ago
Coe represented his county 8 times in 81 alone out of 22 races, & there were no major champs that year! EL G didn't have to run for Morocco outside the major Champs.
When assessing all time greatness you can only use criteria that is common to both athletes when comparing them from different eras. The most important are Olympic medals & outdoor WR's.
deano27671 2 years ago
In both departments Coe's record is superior: Coe= 2 golds, 2 silvers (from the 2 main middle distance events), EL G= 2 gold, 1 silver (1 gold coming in the 5k, which isn't middle distance!); Coe= 8 WR's (from 4 events, 2 of which are Olympic ones), EL G= 3 WR's from 3 events (only 1 an Olympic event). Coe has become v. modest with age and is on record as saying that EL G was the greatest "miler" he has seen; though he wouldn't say he was himself, would he?
deano27671 2 years ago
However, EL G is also on record as having "named Coe unhesitatingly as the best sportsman of all time, bar none" (Alastair Campbell, Times Online, Feb 15th 2005). I don't necessarily agree with either view. EL G has a v. good claim to being the greatest 1500m runner of all time, but certainly not the best "middle distance runner" . For that you have to look at the records of athletes over 800 & 1500/Mile primarily; & in that instance Coe would be very much higher up the list than EL G.
deano27671 2 years ago
As for El G naming Seb Coe the best sportsman... very interesting. I'll look that up. As for best middle distance runner... El G may not be it, but your statement about him "not being a middle distance exponent" is simply untrue. He is, without a doubt, one of the greatest middle distance runners of all time and for that there is no doubt.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago 3
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I actually said "EL G isn't a true middle distance exponent because he did nothing at 800m." Not quite the same. I have already said that ELG is one of the greatest athletes ever, and of course he is one of the best "middle distance runners" ever, but for me it is more important to have achieved things over 800m (an Olympic event) rather than 2000m or even 5000m, which is a long distance event.
deano27671 2 years ago
First, it probably would have been at least a silver in 1996 had El G not fell: he won 10 out of 11 races that year, including ending Morceli's long reign over 1500m. Second, you should know that lots of world records are set in eras of fierce competition: Coe vs Ovett, Gebreselassie vs Tergat and Komen, and now Dibaba vs. Defar. It is different from having a total monopoly on dominance with the likes of Morceli and El G, who had nobody challenge their records at their prime.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago 3
Far from it, Coe was 1.71 secs faster than anyone else in history over 800m from 81-84 and he didn't get the chance to run against Ovett over 1500m apart from the Olympics. He was undefeated at any distance in 79 & 81, and didn't lose a race over 1500m/Mile from 1977 to 1983. ELG not challenged!?? Didn't he have Lagat a stride behind him pushing him to 3:26.12 and Ngeny a stride behind when he broke the Mile record? Coe had no one within 40m when he broke his 800 & 1k records.
deano27671 2 years ago
ELG had some excellent, even pace making when he ran his fastest times, the few occasions Coe went for a WR at 1500m/Mile the pace was always dreadful. There wasn't anyone else in the world who was capable let alone prepared to take him to 1200m in c 2:48. Pace making in the 80's was pretty dire generally, but by the late 90's ELG had a whole troupe of athletes running almost exactly the times they were asked to do.
deano27671 2 years ago
((Coe represented his county 8 times in 81 alone out of 22 races, & there were no major champs that year! EL G didn't have to run for Morocco outside the major Champs))- that's: 1) very vague- represented how? 2) irrelevant
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago 3
Not at all if you are aware of the international athletics scene in the late 70's early '80's. ELG basically had the freedom to run where & when he wanted, with his band of personal training companions and pace makers, for big prize money around the lucrative circuits of Europe. He made each of his 12 or so races count by making sure he ran fast, thus negating the chance of being beaten/outkicked in a slower paced race.
deano27671 2 years ago
In Coe's era the BAAA required you to run a certain number of "matches" against other nations (something which doesn't really exist now) before they'd allow you to run abroad in invitation meets (of which there were fewer than in the 90's anyway). Thus, during '81 Coe ran in matches against the GDR, USA, Belgium, Ethiopia, the USSR and in the Europa Cup semi & final & then for Europe in the World Cup. These races were about winning & points for the country not about times and pace makers.
deano27671 2 years ago
So he had far fewer opportunities to go out and run fast times due to these commitments. Despite this, he still managed to break 4 outdoor world records that season alone, more than ELG set outdoors in his entire career.
deano27671 2 years ago
Yes, El G had some of his countrymen set fast paces for him to match, but he has proven on a whole bunch of occasion, with slow and fast pacing, that he is capable of winning. None of his world records, nor his other fastest times, nor Olympic titles were set with the help of Moroccan teammates by the way, so your ((pace in almost every grand prix race on the circuit)) is untrue. And you can't say that fast times did not motivate Coe... winning is priority #1, but times/ WRs motivated.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago 4
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Of course he was capable of winning most races, but you have to admit that his races were more often than not fast, and he was paced by his team mates on several occasions, especially in major Championships, guaranteeing that the race was run (with it getting increasingly faster from 800m out) exactly to benefit ELG's strengths. Of course ELG still had to win these races but it was a very different landscape to what used to happen in the early '80's.
deano27671 2 years ago
No, I don't doubt that Seb Coe's abilities were as amazing indoors as it was outdoors. But maybe he wasn't interested in doing so, just as El G wasn't interested in running 800 meters. Do you doubt El G's capabilities in this distance- remember his 1:46.70 last 800m in the Olympics? Sometimes major 800m finals are not run inside that time. Maybe he wouldn't have done something like 1'41"73, but his capabilities are much more than what you label them.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago 4
Of course ELG could have run 1:43, but he didn't and never competed in a major grand prix race let alone a Major Champs at the distance. He never even run under 2:14 for 1000m, the nearest distance to 800m. Many believe Coe could have run a 3:27/28 1500m but he didn't. Do you really think Coe was only worth his 14:06 pb at 5k? when he did 5k training sessions with Hutchings (13:11 man) of 7x 800m with 45 secs rest at 13:20 speed.
deano27671 2 years ago
Coe easily beat Coghlan (83 World 5000m champion) & Mcloud (future Olympic 10000m champion) in a 4 mile road race in 78 (beating Foster's course record by 9 secs), so he would have been able to run 13:10 - 13:20 anytime without specialist training. But, he never run 5000m seriously, so he can't be called the best 1500/5k runner of all time based on what he did at 1500m & what he "could" potentially do at 5000m. Thats basically the argument you're trying to make about ELG over 800m!
deano27671 2 years ago
No there wasn't world championships, but there were others, like Euro, Commonwealth, etc... for which Coe did not win one gold (800m) until 1986. Yes there weren't world champs in his era (there was one in '87 though, which his illness in '83 can't excuse). Yes there are double and triple champions, but only El G is the only quadruple at middle distance event(s). As for indoor circuit... don't see what your point is.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago 3
Please note that I mean no disrespect Seb Coe. Your overzealous apples to oranges comparisons to any and every athlete who don't meet the sort of standards or circumstances as Seb Coe, therefore reducing them to mediocrity in some shape or form.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago 3
I think you're contradicting yourself and not understanding the point! The guy posting this video describes it as "the battle of the greatest middle distance runners of all time". GEB is a long distance runner and ELG is a 1500m runner who did some great runs over 2000-5000m. Wikipedia describes middle distance as "800m, 1500m, Mile & the 3000m (which is viewed by some as more of a long distance event". The Encyclopaedia Britannica says it ranges "from 800 to 2000m".
deano27671 2 years ago
You are comparing apples to oranges by talking about indoor WR's and number of world titles which cannot be compared due to the differences in the conditions of the time. ELG could compete in 5 or 6 World Champs before he was 30, Coe had 1 opportunity but couldn't compete because he was ill. I am using just apples to compare apples (Olympics, which are held every 4 years during every athlete's career) and oranges to oranges (world records).
deano27671 2 years ago
Coe was out all season in '87 with a foot injury & was 31 then, so past his best. He missed opportunity of running in at least 8 finals due to illness/injury. He actually won 2 European Cup golds & World Cup gold at 800m before '86, where the fields he met were superior ones to the Moscow final. He would certainly have won both 800 & 1500 in the '82 Euro & Comm had he not been struck down with glandular fever. Had they had World Champs in 79,81, etc, he would have won at least 3 in his career.
deano27671 2 years ago
hahahahahahaha.....wrong... what about the great moroccan said aouita who held 1500m,2000m,2miles,3000m,5000m..that will make it 5 records at once more than anybody in the history of track & field
sslider08 2 years ago
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Wrong about what? You're one of those people who uses this as some kind of nationalistic flag waving forum rather than actually appreciating athletics. You can only relate to Moroccan athletes and have no regard for anyone else. There were great athletes around the world long before the Moroccans came on the scene my friend. I know about Aouita's world records thanks, 3 of which weren't middle distance. And for your information and education, Ron Clarke held 7 records simultaneously!
deano27671 2 years ago
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3 Miles, 5000m, 6 Miles, 10,000m, 10 Miles, 20,000m and the 1 hour! And they are LONG distance events, as opposed to the 800m, 1000m, 1500m, 1 Mile and 2000m, which are MIDDLE distance. Clarke's 7 records between 1966-67 is 2 more than Aouita, and most of those were done solo, without a clique of pacemakers. Try not to be so blinkered and find out about the history of the sport rather than just your own country, before making inaccurate sweeping statements.
deano27671 2 years ago
3000m is middle distance by the way....i'm actually starting to think that you are seb coe himself...i'm not joking...u don't seem to be very happy with how things turned out and history put hicham el guerrouj as the greatest runner of all time
sslider08 2 years ago
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Seb Coe himself wouldn't need to explain himself. Lol. Some people view 3000m as middle distance, some don't (read the Wikipeadia & Britannica definitions). Coe's place in history is assured as is ELG's, and he doesn't need "History" (whatever your definition of who or what this is!?) to tell him otherwise. Your complete disregard to any of the comments I made about Clarke and your blinkered view of the sport just reinforces your insecurity.
deano27671 2 years ago
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As an aside, I can send you a link if you want, where Guerrouj stated to The Times newspaper in 2005, when asked who was the greatest runner of all time, "Coe".
deano27671 2 years ago
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I think it's hilarious that you have set up this page so no one can rate YOUR comments. You'd make a good dictator! Lol
deano27671 2 years ago
i think u're going little to far with your comment there buddy...i'm just a regular fan who posts videos just like anybody else...el guerrouj is the greatest by the way!
sslider08 2 years ago 2
Said Aouita is better than sebastian coe....and hicham el guerrouj is the king of 1500 m all time
ajiwsir 2 years ago
correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not though) but isn't 'middle distance' from 800 - 1 mile? If El G is in fact the greatest exponent of middle distance running then why did he not achieve anything at 800 metres? (que tumbleweed :P)
That's like calling michael johnson the greatest sprinter of all time even though he did nothing at 100m for god's sake.
Only one runner has achieved world records and major medals at distances 800 - 1500 and his name is sebastien coe.
TheFlyingInspiration 2 years ago
Truly great runners! Amazing how fast Haile was....Today he runs the marathon and some(9 oder so?)years ago he ran 3:33 over 1500m!!
Barniisrunning 3 years ago
what is this 1500k? Haile must have been trying it. Haile is a Marathoner for God's sakes.
lamrof 3 years ago
Haile's debut marathon was in 2002, beforehand he was a 5,000 and 10,000 specialist. Of course, Haile has dabbled into many different distances and has been very successful, hence his 2,000 meter record back in 1998. Nowadays he is considered a marathon runner, but to consider him just that, is slightly inaccurate.
Raimakusa 3 years ago
this is 1500 meters, not 1500 kilometers lol.
GetUpAndTryAgain 2 years ago
hicham le pur sang arabe !!!
ou dima MAROC
ghostmancasa 3 years ago 2
or 5-7 years ago
iamreally9 3 years ago
gebreselassie would smoke him at anything higher
iamreally9 3 years ago
Not back then....
ianedwards19 3 years ago
yeh but now he would
iamreally9 3 years ago
im built like Gebresselasie, but jst canny run for shit
Rogerio3456 3 years ago
drayn lanchborgen hitleren...what a language! please speak from your mouth not from your...!!!
arabic for ever
rajawi9999 3 years ago
hicham was the best , why gebresselasie didn't play in athen for 5000m?
rajawi9999 3 years ago
Truth2btold66 is obviously from Ethiopia...asking a miler to run a marathon is moronic and would actually be rather sad to see. Nothing wrong with retiring gracefully and moving into other things.
Masutatsu 3 years ago
As stated el guerrouj is middle distance champ, and haile is long distance champ....
look at the facts...they are both great, so stop trying to prove, and look at facts
TheeChozzenOne 3 years ago 9
and you aswell
iamreally9 3 years ago
wow. what a stupid conversation. how about saying el guerrouj is the best middle distance runner ever, gebreselassie is the best long distance runner ever, and that's it.
Drop it.
Koobeeziak 3 years ago 5
yeh i know. theres no disputing that so evry1 stop sayin shit bout either of thm. geurrouj best middle distance, gebreselassie best long distance. koobeeziak soou nd like the only one who knows what hes talkin about
iamreally9 3 years ago
sslider08 said it well-el g has nothing 2prove,his resume speaks 4himself..hes a legend and now he simply rests n went out a true champion..dats dat!
speedy5098 3 years ago
how can you say that, when running go beyond track and field ?? even in track there a field called 10k. Then there is cross country, road races at various distances, marathon, half-marathon, which your percious boy didn't even dare to touch. What is so great about that ?? Haile didn't do well in cross country but he was there in the top 5, whenever he race.
truth2btold66 3 years ago 2
wooooooooooooooooow i like the part when he was praying , god bless bro.
afrika4lief 3 years ago 3
what happened with the video?? it is no longer available, please repost it
supervic29 3 years ago
One can not really compare him to Haile. Haile is still kicking and he ranges from middle distance to Marathon. Haile is in a class of his own. The only place Haile didn't dominate is the cross country field. In that regard, I have high respect for Paul Tergat. With Kenenisa, the future will tell, so far he has controled cross country and track.
truth2btold66 3 years ago 4
he retired on top at the age of 29 with nothing else to prove my friend
sslider08 3 years ago
come again ? El Guerruouj only stayed in track. That is my point. On top of that,In running bussiness, 29 is very early age to retire. Hell, even Paul Tergat start running at the age 24. 29 is the age one start really becomes mature in running. Your guy didn't even run 10,000 and steaple chase. And you telling us he has nothing to prove. If you ask me he retire very early. Miruts Yifter of Ethiopia earned 2 gold in 5000 and 10000 in his 40's during the moscow olympic.
truth2btold66 3 years ago 5
you want him to run steeple and 10000m so he can prove to you that he's great...u must be out of your mind dude really!!the guy took middle distance running by storm took to a whole different level his world record are still standing 4world champs 2olympic golds what else do u want...go take a nap
sslider08 3 years ago
No I don't want him to do steeple. At least that is whole different ball game. But what about 10000m ? middle distance running include that too. Also, road racing and x-country. 2 gold medals ?? Miruts the shifter did that and he was a beast on road race and x-country. Most importantly don't compare him whith Haile, because Haile also set records from middle distance to long distance and still kicking; while your boy took an early nap...now let me do my napping.
truth2btold66 3 years ago
middle distance includes 10000m??....now u must be on some type of medication or something because that sounds like u don't know much about distance running at all man...el guerrouj had only one goal and that is to be the best middle distance runner ever...let me rephraze what middle distance events are again(1500,1mile,2000m,3000m).
sslider08 3 years ago
come on now, 2000m. nobody even pay attention to that stuff. It is not even included in any kind of world championship nor olympic. It is like that 1hr run track run that Haile set record somewhere in Europe. It is true 1000m is not considered middle distance by defenition. But it is an event that most of the time go in hand with 3k,5k and 1500. Most runners who do 5k do 10k most of the time. Haile has shattered records from 1500 to Marathon and still kicking; while your boy stayed limited.
truth2btold66 3 years ago 4
does he know what being humble means not at all like haile hes so up himself
joshsta007 3 years ago
i don't understand why u make such a claim...el guerrouj is one of the most if not the most humble athletes out there dude...obviously u don't know much about this legend
sslider08 3 years ago
Two of the greatest athletes of all time.
Amazing.
xedvux 3 years ago 5
Two of the greatest athletes of all time.
Amazing.
xedvux 3 years ago 4
Two of the greatest athletes of all time.
Amazing.
xedvux 3 years ago 4
Haile is still the frigging man. And he isn't really mid distance. He holds the world record marathon o.O
Lo0karunner 4 years ago 3
great historic video
suomijogger 4 years ago 3
wow...what an athlete this guy is....a true legend
sslider08 4 years ago