Are there any books of the Bible that you have purposefully avoided in preaching?

[carapar114]

no one preaches Song of Songs (Song of Solomen) and I know why...

[OniNaito]

@carapar114 Mark Driscoll did =P Look up the peasant princess series on the Mars Hill Church website.

[carapar114]

@OniNaito oh, well, i knew that :P

[tempemonkey2323]

I say that it is arrogant and foolish to believe in anything without evidence..... You say the whole world believes in god and that serves as validation for his existence.... The whole world used to believe that trees had spirits in them, or things similar to that.... Not believing in god is ridiculous? Where is your evidence for any god, let alone your interpretation of him, as written in stone aged dessert scrolls? Seriously, why do you believe in the god of the bible?

[tempemonkey2323]

@tempemonkey2323 Do you believe in him because you think that things need a creator? Then why the god of the bible? You go from, I cant explain our existence.... to.... Therefore the three O god in the bible must exist and Jesus is real, a woman ate from a magic tree which cursed all of us, I have a soul, heaven and hell exist etc..... Those claims are absurd and the evidence to back them up is even more absurd... You believe it because you were indoctrinated by society... Its not reasonable

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 I DIDN'T SAY THE WHOLE WORLD BELIEVES IN GOD YOU SAID IT AGAIN YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST SO YOUR LIKE AN ANT WHO SCREAMS I AM MASTER OF MY SOUL I MAKE MY OWN DESTINY CAUSE ITS EYES CANNOT SEE THE HUGHE HUMAN STANDING RIGHT BESIDES IT ; WHO IS STRETCHING OUT HIS ARM TO CRUSH THE PRIDEFULL ANT CAUSE HE HASTO MAKE WAY TO BUILD SOMETHING MILLIONS OF TIMES MORE SPECTACULAR THAN A MERE ANTHILL THE ANT IS YOU

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 I know you dont think the whole world believes in god.... I am asking how they behave morally, in your view, if they do not..... Well, how do they?

You, my deluded friend, are like an ant who says the universe has chosen them, that they exist forever, and that they are a peg above their peers... If you say you can see god, well wheres the evidence? If you are looking at god right now, take a picture!!!! EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE, where is your EVIDENCE?

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 HERE IS THE ANT AGAIN SCREAMING !!!!! SHOW ME THAT YOU EXIST TO THE HUGHE HUMAN BUT THE HUMAN CAN'T HEAR THE ANT WHY DO YOU ASK ? BECAUSE REALLY THE ANT HAS NO RIGHT TO DEMMAND ANYTHING IT IS A USELESS ARROGANT PRIDEFULL DIRTY ANT WHO LIVES IN THE HUMANS LAND FOR FREE THE HUMAN HAS BIG PLANS FOR THIS LAND; BUT THE ANT SAYS I HAVE RIGHTS!!! YOU HAVE TO SHOW YOURSELF TO ME IN ORDER FOR ME TO BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISPLACE ME OR EVEN KILL ME OR MY FELLOW ANTS

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU!!!! YOU!!!! CAME IN HERE STATING THERE IS NO GOD !!!!! PROOVE IT!!!!!!!! OTHERWISE SHUT UP ANT HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 I do not believe I am master of my soul and destiny.... Basically I think I am a product of nature, subject to its laws... There are certain things I can and cannot do mentally and physically and there is no way around it.. I live for a very short time.... Then I disappear forever and my life was really worth nothing in the grand scheme of things.I really do see myself as an ant.

You on the other hand really do see yourself as some kind of cosmically chosen super ant don't you?

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 YOU SPEAK LIKE A CHILD BUT I KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE THINGS OF GOD BUT HERE WE ARE ALL DIRTY ANTS THAT GOD CHOOSES 1 OVER THE OTHER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ANT IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CHOOSER AND IF CHOSEN THAN AND ONLY THAN!!! WE CAN TRUELY BE GREATFULL AMAZING GRACE HOW SWEET THE SOUND THAT SAVED A WRETCH LIKE ME!!!! """ I ONCE WAS LOST BUT NOW AM FOUND WAS BLIND BUT NOW I SEE""""

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 I dont need evidence because I am rejecting your positive claim. For example, If I said that superman existed, and you disagreed, it would be up to me to prove that he did because that is possible to do. It would not be up to you to prove that he did not because that would be impossible.... You are making a POSITIVE claim, that is you are saying something DOES EXIST.... Imagine if science accepted all possible states of the universe until they were disproven!!! Get educated!!!

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 When ever anyone makes any claim at all, it is up to them to supply the evidence or admit they have none.... It is irrational to believe in anything without evidence of its existence.... It is NOT rational to believe in anything because it cannot be disproven.Nothing can be disproven.Not even unicorns.... Etymologically speaking, belief in god, is just as justified as belief in unicorns because both lack evidence to support it... I am rational in rejecting both because of this.

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 did you not make a claim in this channel? than prove it don't turn it on me why should i believe you!!! cause you say so!!! hahahahahahahahha i can't even stop laughing to keep answering you hahahahahahahah

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 So, you say we cannot know god? Then how do you know he is there? Seriously, why do you make the positive claim that a god exists? Why not Allah, Buddah, Vishnu, Zeus.... You cannot disprove the existence of them either, so why dont you believe in them? Is it because they lack evidence to support their existence? Are you starting to understand? Dont worry, I wont charge you tuition for this logic 101 class... Pass this information on to your other mentally abused friends.

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 i don't believe in them because THEY did not saved me from the life i once led THEY did not made their precense so real to me in soooo many different way to the point were i cannot denny JESUS is real i might fall into disbilief for a few but HE always calls me back you don't know cause it has not been given to you so you cannot understand GOD sovereignly chooses HE says I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I WILL HAVE MERCY soo sorry for you

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 OK, I don't believe in god because there is no evidence... That is my claim. I cannot prove he does not exist, and I do not have to to show that belief in him is irrational... It is irrational to believe in anything without evidence... Do you have the evidence for his existence? Didn't think so.... Perhaps your evidence is what he has done in your life... Other people from other religions claim to have their gods do similar things in their lives as well... Do you believe them?

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 again you DON'T BELIEVE CAUSE YOU CAN'T BELIEVE IT HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN TO YOU ONLY TO THOSE ON WHOM GOD WANTS TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO GOD IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO YOU HE DOES NOT NEED YOU IN ANY SINGLE WAY AND EVEN WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS DETERMINED BY HIM EVEN IF EVIDENCE WERE TO BE GIVEN YOU STILL WON"T BELIEVE CAUSE YOU CAN NOT !!!!

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 So basically you are saying that you had an experience that you cannot share with anyone else.... And this experience came from a god that created the universe and he choose you for a certain purpose because he likes you and not other people.... Lots of people have claimed this throughout history... You may want to look up the words deluded and narcissist... What do you think about people who do not believe in predestination?

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 i never said i would not share!! I never said nor do i think you should go to hell heck if anything i desrve it more but it is not my choice nor yours to make it is not that HE likes me more there is a purpose for everything and everyone if they don't believe in predestination thats their problem not mine I also at one point tried islam so!! nothing there but 1 thing I know more people have been killed throughout the ages by non believers and not all who call themselves

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 So, you think that I deserve to be tortured forever because god CREATED ME in a way that he does not like???? And your world view gets that much more $#^$# up!!!

Thanks to your delusion, many people in Africa are being killed just because they are gay... Not to mention the crusades and Islam.... Nothing good comes from deluded beliefs....

How do you know that your experience is the right one and not a Muslims experience? How do you know you are not wrong in your conclusions...

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 christians are christians so you blaming the crusades or any other act of violence by these so called christians is not accurate; none christians shoot kill and every thing else every day and you talking bout the crusades c'mon man you must be deluded your own words came back to get you hahahhhaahahahahah

[samuelthespectacular]

@tempemonkey2323 to a degree your right a lot of christians do misinterpret and do wrong in the name of that, but those who have truly gotten the truth from the bible and that doesnt mean knowing every detail will know we are not the ones to judge a gay person to death

[samuelthespectacular]

@patriotsfan1379 and you also I know your intentions are right and I can see what your trying to do but the bible says to remove your own log before someone else's speck everyone was made for Gods purpose and you dont have the right to say that tempe cant be saved only God can judge that and until he draws his lat breath it is not set in stone

[patriotsfan1379]

@samuelthespectacular when did i say tempe won't or can't be saved?thats GOD perrogative the bible teaches even the wicked are made for the day of judgement in rom;9 we read that there are vessels prepeared for wrath when did i judged a gay person in here? for i believe like paul " i am the chief of sinners " i know that i only stand because of GODS unmerrited grace otherwise there but for the grace of GOD there go i doing the same things or even worse it is the LORD who restraints me

[tempemonkey2323]

@tempemonkey233 I am claiming that your god claims are false... That is what I am doing.. I am not saying that god does not exist definitely... One might for all I know... All I am saying is that there is no good reason to believe in one.... When you say that I cannot prove he does not exist, this is like saying you cannot prove the tooth fairy doesnt exist, nor big foot, nor superman etc... Therefore I am justified in believing in them.... No no no you need evidence for positive claims. Ugh...

[tempemonkey2323]

@tempemonkey2323 I would also like to hear the experience you had that convinced you that your brand of god exists the way you have defined him.... Is it that he has helped you? Was it a feeling? What?

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 I dont know how many times I have to say this but saying you cannot disprove a belief is not justification for it... Otherwise every belief would be justified because no belief can be disproven... Its basic logic 101. If you are making a claim, it is up to you to prove it with evidence, it is not up to me to disprove it and untill that happens its justified.That is not how it works. So, either give me the evidence for your claims or admit that they are wishful thinking at best

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 OOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEE­EEEEEYYYYYYYYY THAN!!!!!! PROOVE YOUR BELIEF THAT THERE IS NO GOD I WANT PROOF THAT YOU HAVE GONE TO THE DEEPEST OR TO THE ENDS OF THE UNIVERSE AND TO THE DEEPEST OF THE SEA THAT YOU HAVE TURNED EVERY SINGLE ROCK THAT YOU HAVE GONE TO 4 CORNERS OF THE EARTH  I WANT PROOF

[pcrvg0808]

i think it,s sad tempemonkey and so many others deny The Holy Trinity ( God ) , and in effect deny that they have a soul ( wich needs to be saved ) . And are left to believe in this physical world filled with lies and deceit and sin . And think that when they die , it will be the end . - I know it offends them when i say that i will pray for them ..... nontheless i will do just that .

[tempemonkey2323]

Dear grown man who believes in imaginary beings (sad really)... Do you purposely avoid passages in your not so holy book which promote slavery, stoning, the submission of women, genocide and rape?

[Mazcan77]

@tempemonkey2323 Hello again, still fighting I see. You know there was something I should have said last time and failed to do so, even though you don't believe and you think our faith is a load of nonsense, God dose love you and He cares about you very deeply, You do matter to Him. Take care and don't stop watching the vids (even if you still want to keep up the fight) :)

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 you act as if all these people deseved to live you did not know them nor how sinfull they were oh I forgot you are AHUMANIST therefore you have this idea that people are good hahahhahaaahahah what a laugh

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 So you are saying that stoning, rape, slavery, and eternal torture are sometimes moral? You are a sick person who has been perverted by an ancient stone age book. You and many others through history have fallen prey to it...... While I would call myself a humanist, I dont think that humans are all good. I just don't think any of them deserve to be raped, killed, and tortured.... Especially because of their theological beliefs..

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 The old testament, and hell for that matter is extremely immoral.... Just because some lady ate an apple that gave us all a curse that only a god many can break (Paul got this idea from ancient Greek mythology by the way... did you ever see the study that shows atheists know biblical history more than xians??? Funny!!).... And if we do not believe in this god man we DESERVE eternal tourment???? That is messed up!!! No all loving, all perfect, all powerful god would do that.

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 WHO EVER TOLD YOU THAT GOD LOVES EVERYONE? or that GOD is here to make everyone happy or that HE should do ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU THINK ITS RIGHT WHO DIED AND LEFT YOU IN CHARGE TO SAY WHAT IS WRONG OR RIGHT WHO EVER TOLD YOU THAT GOD CARES WHAT YOU THINK ITS RIGHT OR JUST

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 ... Let me say it again.... No body deserves to be tortured forever. NOBODY!!! That is wrong..... It is not moral... also, belief should be proportional to evidence.... Where is your evidence for god? By saying that we cannot disprove gods existence does not support a belief in one.. God may exist, big foot may exist, a pink invisible unicorn may exist, we cannot disprove it.. But we need evidence if we are going to believe in any of those things. Religion is mental abuse.

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 LET ME SAY IT AGAIN EVERYBODY DESERVES DEATH IT IS BECAUSE OF THE MERCY OF GOD THAT WE ARE NOT CONSUMED BUT YOU WERE THE ONE WHO CAME IN HERE TALKING ABOUT THERE IS NO GOD SO PROVE IT!!!! OTHRWISE SHUT THE HELL UP ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 THIS IS AN IDIOTIC STATEMENT HOW MANY PEOPLE SAY BIG FOOT EXISTS? OR THAT UNICORNS EVER EXISTED? MOST PEOPLE KNOW UNICORNS ARE BUT A FANTASY THAT DOES NOT CREATE NOR INDUCE A CHANGE OF LIFESTYLE BUT THERE ARE THOUSANDS; MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE AND HAVE HAD A TRUE CHANGE IN LIFESTYLE CAUSE OF JESUS DRUG ADDICT ARE NOT ANYMORE NOR PROSTITUTES ETC.. THEY HAVE BECOME BETTER PERSONS YOUR REASONING IS WEAK AND BASELESS YOU HAVE TO PROVE WHAT YOU SAY OTHERWISE SHUT UP

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 So you are saying that we have no ability to decide what is right wrong, moral and immoral correct? If that is the case, how do you know that god is good, moral, and right? How do you decide that he is so?Ahhhh, we all have a moral compass, we all know what right and wrong, good and bad is.... And you back peddle.. if you remembered your daughter, and saw her being tortured forever in the pits of hell would you jump up and say thank you Jesus for being so moral, good, and just?

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 because you would not know right or wrong unles there was a higher moral agent on this case GOD even litle kid if left to themselves would kill each other we are born selfish unles someone teaches us left to ourselves we are doomed but not YOU OFCOURSE YOU ARROGANT FOOL NOT ONLY IS THIS COMMON SENSE YOU ARE UNGREATEFULL AND PRIDEFULL YOU THINK TOO MUCH OF YOURSELF

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 You also seem to be saying that as long as a bunch of people believe in something and claim some benefit from this belief then it must be true.... Well then, Zeus, Scientology, Fairies, Raelians, Thor, Chronos, Rhea, Athena, Apollo, Brahma, Vishnu etc etc etc must all be real right??? RIGHT? Your beliefs are no different than the millions of false beliefs that have all come before it....

Again, there is no evidence for your god, and therefore no reason to believe in it...

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 NOT ONE OF DOES RELIGIONS HAVE I EVER HEARD THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN HUMANS IF INSPECTED CAREFULLY THERE MIGHT BE CHANGE ON THE OUTSIDE BUT THE INSIDE IS STILL PRIDEFULL FULL OF SELFRIGHTEOUSNESS JUST LIKE !!!!!!! "YOU"

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 You say that people do not get lasting change from other religions when the members themselves make the same claims as xians make... Do you have evidence that they do not get the same experiences as xians do? I think you are making a baseless assumption....

As for morality, again, you seem to know that god is good, but if you have no morality, by what means do you judge his good by? For all you know.... He may be evil, because as you said, we do not know good from evil...

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 Morality, my uneducated friend, comes from our ability to sympathize, and our need to rely on each other for things..... Basically, I do not murder, steal, lie etc because I know that others will not be around to help me if I do and at the same time it makes me feel bad when I do those things..... How dare you say that only people who believe in a Jewish zombie are moral..... People throughout the world are moral without your silly little belief... Right and wrong is innate..

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 you just lied right there SO i rest my case not only do you lie you covet you lust you are pridefull therefore you need a saviour am done with you if you cannot prove GOD does not exist you really need to just shut the hell up

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 Yes I do bad things but the punishment your stone aged religion prescribes is not justice, its sick and twisted. Therefore, I conclude that it probably was created by uninformed men, not by an all knowing, all powerful, all loving god...

Furthermore, not showing something doesnt exist is not justification for believing in it.... Otherwise we could believe in anything because nothing can be disproven... Therefore, justifying your belief in this way is not rational and useless.

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 Moreover, how did I lie? Why do I need a savior just because I have pride, lust, covet etc? Dont I just need to learn and try to control these things? I certainly don't deserve eternal torture..... And neither do your children... You know this, you see this and it bothers you.... The price you pay for believing in a lie is that you must constantly run from evidence, argument, and truth... You run from reality... Have fun running, I certainly have fun chasing...

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 You also say that children have no moral sense and that they would kill each other if left to their own devices..... Where do you get this information from.... Last I checked, psychologists have studied this issue and it seems that fairness, love, respect, loyalty etc develops naturally as a child matures.... Now there are those who try to take advantage of others, but for the most part, morality develops naturally in our minds... I can give you scientific studies on this issue

[tempemonkey2323]

Are you willing to admit that torturing your children, no matter what they do is immoral? Are you willing to admit that genocide, is immoral? Are you willing to admit that letting another pay for a persons wrong doing is immoral?

Morality comes from feeling, emotion, and reason. Our wants, desires, and feelings interact with others in such a way so as to make a productive society. We recognize this, and this is where morality comes from.. Your morality has been hijacked by an immoral cult.

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 I know that learning is a serious threat to your religious indoctrination, information always destroys brainwashed minds, more educated people are less religious.. Well, I assume that you never read books about science, history, politics, etc but you might want to Google Donald E Browns list of human universals.... It shows a list of things that essentially all human civilizations have held through out history... It may shed some light on the morality issue

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 furthermore, if you say that morality is dependent upon religion, then why do less religious societies such as sweden, switzerland and pretty much all of Europe have lower crime rates... How do you explain that?

Furthermore, people who worship false gods, in your opinion they are basically worshiping the devil and its moral and just that they be tortured forever.... Wow, you are really sick.... Anyways, why are not people like Hindus raping and killing eachother.

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 I just want you to know that I do not think you deserve eternal torment, nor do I think that you are possessed by devils, nor do I think you are worthless because you do not believe the same thing I do... You believe those things about me though... Think about it.... It seems to me your religion has not given you any type of good morality at all... I simply think you are a victim of an ancient stone aged occult that has brain washed your by attacking your emotions.

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 The more you read about the history, start with the council of Nicea... And the more you contemplate it.. The more you realize this is stone aged bull crap.... Its sick, twisted, and anti life.. I know, it sounds like a cliche but you have been indoctrinated by your environment and essentially brainwashed to believe this crap. This religion gives you the disease (eternal torture) and the cure (following the church)... Classic bait and hook brainwash.

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 NO I HAVE NOT BEEN INDOCTRINATED FOR I HAVE NOT BEEN CHRISTIAN ALL MY LIFE I WAS ONE OF THE WORST SINERS BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU DON'T KNOW BOUT MTO SAY THOSE THINGS" I FOLLOW NO CHURCH" BUT DO GO TO 1 CAUSE GOD SAYS I SHOULD SERVE GET THAT STRAIGHT THE ONLY SICK THING HERE ITS YOUR WAY OF THINKING BUT DON'T WORRY THERE IS A PLAN OF THAT YOU CAN BE SURE EVEN IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT IT DOES NOT VOID IT AND YOU ARE PART OF IT EVEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT BUT YOU WILL

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 As long as there are groups of people like you who say human beings are worthless and you preach that evidence is not needed for rational thought processes, and you do this because of some ancient stone aged book and you say that people deserve eternal torture because they do not believe what you believe.... As long as that is happening, I will not stop fighting this wicked way of thinking and living...

I think that you should ask yourself though... Why do you believe.

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 I find it disturbing how you say you follow god and not a church.... Really, you are just following yourself and claim it comes from god. It is dangerous when people think their thoughts are infallible and divinely inspired and are impervious to evidence, reason, and logic.This is dangerous and arrogant.... The whole world says they follow god and they all get incompatible answers... How do you know you are following god and others are not? You don't know, you are just arrogant.

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 NO YOU ARE ARROGANTYOU FOLLOW YOURSELF WITHOUT ANY REGARD FOR GOD YO THINK YOU ARE MORAL AND YOU DON'T NEED A MORAL RULE GIVER NOW THATS REALLY SICK THIS IS HOW UNINTELLIGENT YOUR THINKING IS THE WHOLE WORLD FOLLOWS GOD YOU SAY NOW THATS A LAUGH SINCE YOU KEEP SAYING THERE IS NONE WHAT SO YOU STAND ALONE YOU MUST BE YOUNG TO SPEAK LIKE THAT AND STILL KEEP A STRAIGHT FACE I MEAN THIS HAS TO BE 1 OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS STATEMENT I EVER ENCOUNTERED

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 I strongly encourage you to watch a video called why the bible is repulsive by GII video.... Search for it on youtube and tell me what you think.... Really, it might show you just how vile the bible really is... Just to let you know, I do follow myself, I also follow what other people say if it makes sense.... But most of all, I follow things that have EVIDENCE and REASON to back them up... There is no evidence for your god and therefore it is unreasonable to believe in it.

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 I will not give up my ability to decide for myself just because I am scared of what some book threatens me with and want what it falsely promises.... If you answer anything, answer this.... If you died, went to heaven and saw your child being tortured in hell, would you call that justice? Do you feel yourself right now struggling to keep your moral intuition back for the sake of your dessert dogma? That is what brain washing feels like.... Thats what it is.... Do you feel it?

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 the sad part about it is that it is an illusion you DON'T have the ability to decide for yourself you chose according to your nature and your nature is unregenerate threfore you chose that which is against GOD thats what sin does it decieves you into thinking that what you are choosing its the best course of action THERE IS A WAY THAT SEEMS RIGHT TO MAN BUT THE END OF IT ITS DEATH if i were to go to heaven i would not remmember anyone here on earth

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 HE WHO LOVES FATHER MOTHER WIFE SISTER BROTHER OR CHILD MORE THAN ME ITS NOT WORTH OF ME SAID JESUS this universe and everything in it was MADE TO GLORYFIE " GOD " AND "HIM" ONLY it was not madfe for you GODS glory its the ultimate chief end of man ou don't understand that cause you think you deserve some glory too you have " rights" you need to be hugged hahahaha GROW UP

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 What really bugs me with all this childish garbage is that people then start to justify their own thoughts as being the thoughts of god. "Its not my opinion that gays are sinful and should be treated as such... It comes from god and nothing can convince me otherwise.... Evidence, reason, and argument that shows they do not suffer psychological damage nor degrade society does not matter because its gods will... PERIOD.." This kind of thinking is what religion promotes.. Its sick.

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 Or how about this kind of thinking.... "I know that eternal torture, stoning, and genocide seem bad, but if it comes from god.... I cant think and decide for myself and come to the proper conclusion with morality...." That last one sound familiara?

Or how about this thinking.... " I know that it seems that some people who do not accept Jesus or even some mildly bad people do not deserve eternal punishment... But...."

Religion has taken away your ability to think morally...

[tempemonkey2323]

@patriotsfan1379 I forgot to add that religion has also taken away your ability to think rationally by making you think that faith (belief in SPITE of evidence) is superior to belief based on evidence. That is, you will believe whatever you believe, based on faith, even if evidence shows the contrary..... That is not reasonable..... Moreover, you will believe in some extraordinary claim with no evidence at all... This is not reasonable either... Yet you do it because you religion scares you to.

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 you don't believe because you can't believe it is impossible for you to believe thats why you think the way you do you think that people are good that they have rights that they DESERVE to be loved you think that cause you are a humanist YOU HATE GOD cause you don't understand that one sin to a holy GOD is punishable by death you don't understand that cause you'r not holy but sinFULL therefore 1 sin is nothing to you you think you good but you are not you sin everyday

[patriotsfan1379]

@tempemonkey2323 oh by the way i think more rational than you at any time or moment it is your irrationality that to think that just cause any human being says that there is no god i should believe that HAVE THEY GONE TO THE DEEPEST PERTS OF SPACE TO VERYFIE THIS OR EVEN TO THE DEEPEST OCEAN TO MAKE THIS CLAIM HAVE THEY LOOKED UNDER EVERY ROCK OR INSIDE THE FLAMING VOLCANOS TO AFFIRM THIS AS CERTAIN YOU FOOL ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD SAY WHAT YOU SAY WITH A STRAIGHT FACE HAHAHA