Union Pacific Turbines of the Wasatch

[gringo4x4do]

Both Turbine Videos that I bought have poor Turbine sound to them. Most likely due to the technology and cost at the time available from trackside users. Good Video with outstanding noise recording capabilites was just too expensive unless you were filthy rich back in the late 50's and 60's when these beasts ruled the rails in Wyoming

[iRailfan]

It just an add. Go to Pentrex or eBay and get the video. You can certainly here them in it.

[michaelXXLF]

Check out the oil tender at 0:40 and 0:52! These engines ran on grade C bunker fuel which had to be heated and they apparently used massive loads of it.

Btw, the American pronunciation of 'turbine' and 'turban' is identical according to the Merriam-Webster. Check it out for yourselves if you don't believ it.

[izkeh1]

Just SHUT UP already. I will NEVER visit Pentrex on the web, EVER!!

[BXM4C]

@izkeh1 I agree. Even I was saying SHUT UP so I can hear the locomotives!

[turbo1431]

that is the cheeseist narration of a commercial that i have ever seen

[megatwingo]

Cool locos in a nice landscape. Thumbs up!  :)

[geonerd]

Gawd, I wish the narrator would shut up for a few seconds. The tirade of buzzwords gets old after about 10 seconds.... As someone mentioned, you can't even hear the train over his blathering.

[Makemyday0126]

These are Turbines..not 'Turbans' as the stupid Yank narrator describes them, sheesh at least pronounce it right.

[johnbo48]

@Makemyday0126 Shut it you gay limey prick.

[Makemyday0126]

@johnbo48 Limey me arse..irish and proud Boy!!!.... and seemingly your easiest attack on me is questioning my sexuality .. xxxxx with a sloppy tongue for added ooomph ...

[johnbo48]

@Makemyday0126 Proud? What of? - well I guess you invented the potato??

[48alfaone]

This is a Great Video, i have it. Great history of the UP, Turbine's & railroading, even High Nose GP9's! Thanks.

[AlcoholicSemenStain]

Varandas are the gayest of the turbines.

[Tonyhenthorn]

Look at all that somke! Almost like a steam engine at times. The chemical industry found uses for Bunker-C, driving up its price. Turbines work fine for power plants, ships, and aircraft, but for some reason aren't efficient when used as railroad engines.

[tturbine2500]

@Tonyhenthorn. No real change inefficiency for ralroad application. Just the unit price per horsepower can de done cheaper with diesel

[tturbine2500]

@Tonyhenthorn. No real change inefficiency for ralroad application.  Just the unit price per horsepower can de done cheaper with diesel. And in this video I think the smokers werent the turbines but the diesels that were added to get the consist to the top. Notice the lead has zero smoke

[hoosac]

Would like it much better if music and narrator would be more restrained - let's hear the turbines!

[WetDirtProductions]

0:30 - 0:40 ...jesus christ thats awsome lmao

[Jared1452]

Isn't a gas turbine basicly a jet engine or is it the porpulsion similer? They sound exactly like jet engines.

[Duff4444]

The basic engine operation is the same in that both are gas turbines. A jet engine is tuned to power with its thrust, while a helicopter or train turbine is tuned to power off of the shaft (such as driving wheels or a generator).

[uberstupidmove]

More or less yeah. Bombardier made a few M3 Turbines but they were very inefficient.

[tturbine2500]

@Jared1452 Gas turbine is a jet engine. The only difference is how use use the thrust created out of the gas generator. Planes use the thrust. As a prime mover you aerodynamically couple the High Pressure turbine element to a low pressure turbine element that drives and output shaft which in this case drove a generator through a reduction gear

[TurbinePower69]

@tturbine2500 I can see that your knowledge of "jet engines" vs TURBOSHAFT engines....leaves a lot to be desired.

[danielday36]

hardly practical today due to the fact that these machines were made during cheap oil.

[spencnaz]

They burned Bunker C fuel, which nothing else would run at the time. Bunker C has to be heated to 180F before it will flow through piping to be combusted. At the time, they couldn't give the stuff away until cargo ships started burning Bunker C oil.

[Modeltrainguy]

WOW!! O_O

5 STARS!

[SP4449Warbaby]

I love modern diesel power, steam, electric, the works. But the Gas Turbines had the upper hand when it came to first generation power in my opinion, a shame they didnt run more than a decade.

[rockguitarist946]

did you know the SP was considering buying gas turbines but didnt because the SP's main yard was in a canyon? imagine the noise!

[SP4449Warbaby]

And imagine the paint scheme too, an SP Gas Turbine.... At least some survive, I believe.

[rockguitarist946]

yeah, i wish the train masters had survived too.

[kingelvis24]

2 did.

[03dktart]

i was at IRM last year where turbine #18 is on display and they had a cab tour of it. pretty cool inside but everything was beat up and it had inspection papers in it still from 1969. Pretty cool. There was talk of them wanting to restore the A unit to operating condition but i think its another dream of IRM. Alot of the machinery and engines were removed from the B unit years ago i think. But they reapinted the units and they look great. I'll have to find those vids and post them on here.

[gaycowboy31]

I wish the UPRR heritage steam team would restore the one in Ogdon Utah and get it running at least on the Wasatch mainline out there but thats only a dream unfortunatlly sort of like seeing another BigBoy restored and reunning over Sherman Hill LOL

[clinton984]

Good stuff. Echo canyon is a bad ass climb. 5*

[blueticecho]

As a high school kid in the 60s. i work the U P shops in the summer time. One summer i watch 3 of these units cut up in the scrap yard.... Right this was at the Omaha yards......................

[ThePowerbloke]

Just a shame the narrator and music could have been silent...for a while so we could hear them!! :-)

[pipeorganistken]

My Dad was 47 years with SP. The gas turbines were great with the exceptions of heat and noise. SP was looking at them too because of the power. The main noise problem happened when one was run into the old Taylor yards near the Los Angeles/Glendale border. The "unique acoustics" of the area with a rock face to the S.W. created a sound chamber and reflective surface. Windows were broken in huge numbers on residences all over the area.

[jeremykhn]

I actually saw a Turbine going through my a few years ago pulling the special UP cars and everything. What was weird was it was operating on the BNSF rail way lines.

[TrainTrackTrav]

You probably saw the streamlined E-Unit diesles. The turbines were either scraped 40 years ago or sent to a musem as a display.

[anderberger]

could someone give me a link to where i could buy this online and the one gringo4x4do recommended

[scott6305]

I read an artical about the turbines that said most city's banned them from city centers because of their noise.One was stopped under an automobile overpass for a a short time and the hot exhaust gasses melted the roadway on the bridge above it!The city had to shut the bridge down to patch the road,needless to say,they were banned from stopping under bridges as well.

[JETZcorp]

I heard about that. I believe the city was Los Angeles.

[vincnet010]

that just make smokes!

[FlyBikes089]

Sweet video

[choirboyfromhell1]

This oil turbine power plant, known as "Frame 1's and 2's" from General Electric is still used in marine applications on ex-Chevron tankers. The ex- Chevron Louisiana, now Diligiance of Maritrans, still has a turbine electric drive and is very reliable.

[placekicker]

I bought this video on VHS six years ago at the Utah State Railroad Museum in Ogden and I agree with your sentiments! Also bought the vid about the UP "Big Boy" locomotives...also a kickass video!

[JeffOrnstein01]

I just received this video, and it's pretty good, even if some of the footage is grainier than one would like. The sound is awesome. There's an extended scene of the head-on view of the Turbine in the main program where a crewman jumps off the B unit and runs like hell to catch the lead turbine and then climbs into the cab. These locomotives must have been one heck of a workout!

[kingelvis24]

I love these trains!

[darkyoda]

You may notice a curious GP unit tagging along. There's a reason for this that's kinda neat. Apparently, these engines couldn't do any switching of their own. In fact, once the engine was "turned off" the turbine kept spinning for quite some time. So the little GP unit was used to move the locomotive around.

[lexmarks567]

those locos made as much noise as a 747 on take off

[Skoda130]

I don't have DVD's from Americam railways, because I'm mainly interested in my own national railways. Still I think the Americans made some pretty impressive loco's/trains. :)

[Skoda130]

They did that on purpose. It's a teaser, and their reasoning is like: "If you want to hear the sounds, then buy the video"..

[guspech]

they are truely awesome. i just saw no. 18 that is on diplay at the illinois railway museum. the museum is awesome. been there a few times. i recommend it. (union, illinois)

[c2h2a2s2e2]

I heard ge was going to turn a gevo into a 10,000HP gasturbine for shermen hill in 2009

with the very same roar of 120db's.

[patmix]

120 db,s wow is it the most higher among all north american locomotive ?

[TrainFriends]

these are real power packs

[hudson501]

There are two surviving UP turbines. One at the Illinois Railway Museum and one that's apparently on display in Ogden, UT.

[gringo4x4do]

There is one in Ogden in decent cosmetic shape .

[gaycowboy31]

yah thats one hell of a massive locomotive I enjoy it every time I see it i want to see the UP restore one and run it oh well wishfull thinking just like seeing a BigBoy running again oh well it would be awsome seeing another one of these in the Wasatch mountains again or hell hearing one of these beast running again through there equally cool

[colinroxanduknowit]

you do know that UP runs a big boy, right? On special occasions that is.

[gaycowboy31]

no the UP doesnt run a Bigboy they run a Challenger class 4-6-6-4 there are NO operating Bigboys

[Nec1228]

i wish UP would bring at least one of those back, even if it was for excursion service, they were awsome beasts.

i must get this video!

[gringo4x4do]

The Pentrex Vid " Union Pacific's Mighty Turbines "  is better than Turbines of The Wasatch

[ronthecyborg]

I got to have this one!

[fafnir242]

It's definately worth it. My dad owns it. One hell of a vid.

[JPilot2]

Hey,excellent videos!!

[NS6677]

The DVD is out now!

[UnionRail]

Cool vid

[irishmanO1]

awesome

[UPTurner]

Looks cool!!

[railmogul2]

cooooooooool

[csx5580]

i have this one, i love it!

[chessie93]

Love Those Turbines