Freaks :D why do they laugh like that, common ... nosql is great but making fun of relational dbs is fucking stupid because 90% of th world is running on them
He is biased since he is married to MySQL, too desperate. I would have expected some serious thoughts besides joking from a person like himself. Do not watch it is a waste of time.
It is funny... until you realize how unfunny the headaches you will face once you need to scale out relational data stores to the same degree that NoSQL stores are meant to handle.
The relational features discussed are indispensable and is why the "NoSQL" alternatives have to provide analogs. These analogs are in fact *harder* and less transparent to use! So why?
Because of an impt. tradeoff: it makes it much much easier to "cloud-ify" your data store (e.g. replication and scale out).
Having to deal with group by, order by, etc... operations at a lower level, may be a step backward, but easily replication and scaling out is more impt. in many situations.
As a database guy I understand this guy's fear, but he really needs to read up a bit more before he gives his next talk. He seems to have succeeded in missing the point. Group by = Map Reduce is a pretty ignorant. If he'd focused on the fact that these sort of things are for certain use cases and for most people RDBMS is the thing to use (they are perfectly good), that may have been a better approach.
@zenbyo: The elephant is the mascot for PostgreSQL, the dolphin for MySQL. In the past, MySQL users and developers have argued that transactions were unnecessary in a relational database while those on the PostgreSQL side have held that they were an essential part. In recent years, MySQL has put more emphasis on "advanced" database features like transactions and has been mocked for thinking they were unnecessary in the first place. Look up MyISAM and InnoDB for more info.
So I just went through the top 100 hits in Google for david axmark transaction, and whereas I find a lot of things in 2003 where he talks about how important it is that they're about to get transactions, I'm not able to find an example of his saying transactions are unnecessary.
Could you provide a more specific reference than a name and a three year range?
Well that was disappointingly one sided.
nav3d 2 months ago
Lecture/presentation was quite good, but that laughter .. I feld like while watching a sitcom :|
unantastbar2 5 months ago
You have to be a nerd to understand the hysterical laughter
alexjbriiones 5 months ago
Y'now, Y'now, Y'now (laugh). I don't know.
jonathanheaton 6 months ago 3
Freaks :D why do they laugh like that, common ... nosql is great but making fun of relational dbs is fucking stupid because 90% of th world is running on them
lonelyhollow 9 months ago
@lonelyhollow I think you've missed the point of the video...
marcuskielly 6 months ago
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bigoldfaty 1 year ago
He is biased since he is married to MySQL, too desperate. I would have expected some serious thoughts besides joking from a person like himself. Do not watch it is a waste of time.
umututkan 1 year ago 4
Brain Aker is an academic masturbator who needs to cut his clown hair style.
shandee6661 1 year ago 2
It is funny... until you realize how unfunny the headaches you will face once you need to scale out relational data stores to the same degree that NoSQL stores are meant to handle.
jbperez808 1 year ago
The relational features discussed are indispensable and is why the "NoSQL" alternatives have to provide analogs. These analogs are in fact *harder* and less transparent to use! So why?
Because of an impt. tradeoff: it makes it much much easier to "cloud-ify" your data store (e.g. replication and scale out).
Having to deal with group by, order by, etc... operations at a lower level, may be a step backward, but easily replication and scaling out is more impt. in many situations.
jbperez808 1 year ago 2
This is the most annoying presentation ever....
joristube 1 year ago 2
Am I listening to somebody eat in the background here, ugh
glipquux 1 year ago 2
As a database guy I understand this guy's fear, but he really needs to read up a bit more before he gives his next talk. He seems to have succeeded in missing the point. Group by = Map Reduce is a pretty ignorant. If he'd focused on the fact that these sort of things are for certain use cases and for most people RDBMS is the thing to use (they are perfectly good), that may have been a better approach.
sdcharle 1 year ago
Interesting presentation but scary audience.. hysterical laughter at absolutely nothing a lot of the time, weird!
bigbold2 1 year ago 26
@bigbold2 .... i think they smoked a lot before going sitting down to this presentation....
omg,... have you seen his hair.. and lack of it?
MrDanielBang 1 year ago
@zenbyo: The elephant is the mascot for PostgreSQL, the dolphin for MySQL. In the past, MySQL users and developers have argued that transactions were unnecessary in a relational database while those on the PostgreSQL side have held that they were an essential part. In recent years, MySQL has put more emphasis on "advanced" database features like transactions and has been mocked for thinking they were unnecessary in the first place. Look up MyISAM and InnoDB for more info.
xhnpohugafsd 1 year ago 5
@xhnpohugafsd What MySQL developer ever said transactions were unnecessary? You're making shit up.
StoneCypher 1 year ago
StoneCypher,
David Axemark, one of the two founders of MySQL, said it repeatedly and in many locations from 1999 to 2001.
TheFuzzyChef 1 year ago
So I just went through the top 100 hits in Google for david axmark transaction, and whereas I find a lot of things in 2003 where he talks about how important it is that they're about to get transactions, I'm not able to find an example of his saying transactions are unnecessary.
Could you provide a more specific reference than a name and a three year range?
StoneCypher 1 year ago
The picture is about postgresql/mysql. The postgresql mascot is elephant and mysql mascot is dolphin.
mmoncure11 1 year ago
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I like my job @ 5:15 lol
nightdriver09 1 year ago
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nightdriver09 1 year ago
Can someone explain the picture to me @ 4:52?
zenbyo 1 year ago
I believe that to be a beefed up version of the PostgreSQL mascot roasting a rendering of the MySQL dolphin.
silverskein 1 year ago
Excelent compare of nonsql to SQL databases
getatiger4you 1 year ago
If you are a database junkie, this video is for you.
ccharlton2 2 years ago
Super amusant, bien joué !
monarque36698 2 years ago