yeah. Billy Corgan reminds me the singer of an animated band hiting strong here in Italy not being a million dollar production. Search for SWAVE IN THE FUTURE
thats jimmy replacing a whole percussion army (that they had when they toured adore, I seen em!!!) on an electric kit! no darcy here, though...would have rather seen jimmy @ tha show, but darcy was there...
This is the way this song was meant to be played live, at least arrangement wise. Jimmy's drumming is far more competent than the other drummers' was, and the idea of the acoustic guitar adds another interesting, percussive layer to it all.
but you see, that is Jimmy playing in the video. and while i do believe he's one of the greatest current rock drummers, the other ones who played with sp during the ava adore period weren't bad- it's just that the musical arrangement was off and somewhat innovative during this period... as you can tell by jimy playing the tiny set right there.
I like this better at slow tempo, the other live versions of this are just too fast. When I've heard the live last year it felt like they played it within 2 minutes!
one of my favorite smashing pumpkins songs.. i just bought the Adore album from them as i've been listening to eat every day since... its so pleasant to hear it.
okay first of all how dare you say this is not good, this is pumpkins at their best. Adore was highly underated, because of people like you who think this is "scary". This song has by far my favorite pumpkins video. And has more groove than alot songs that ive ever heard by any band. I also love Zwan and listened to them in the car this morning, but everyone in pumpkins sounds just good as the zwan members. Billy is a beast no matter what band he is in. and that is why your wrong.
It's supposed to be a little creepy, that's what the song goes for I think. Go watch the music video, you get a really good sense of the emotions involved.
billy doesnt have a terrible voice...billy has a billy voice the man actually has range even i cant go low and high as he he does his voice makes the songs what they are...his voice and inflections give the music power and actually let the listener feel what he feels you can feel the emotion!
Well, although one should judge a band's member by his/her skillls, the aesthetic it's some how important. It gives some kind of "mystic". Regardless, Ginger Reyes doesn't seems to add that aesthetical match that used to be with D'arcy, or even Melissa auf der Maur, who, by the way, does an awsome performance in her own band.
dude your an ass. they arent models. they're bassists. And i dont think they are flat ugly zombies. they are actually pretty imo. But ginger is hotter you're right.
now for my actual comment. I think billy is a narcissist. Go ahead. Flame me. i like him, but i think he went through a phase where he thought that he was the best. when he says im so pretty? come on.
Another good example, Paz Lenchantin. She is a great musician, and she could have been great for that musical/visual mystic of the band, in the new formation. Sadly, Corgan seems to be angrier with the people from Zwan than with James Iha himself! sad!
Melissa was and is a good Bass player. D'Arcy was too. I don't give a damn what others think. This new girl, no idea what her name is, can play pretty good too and looks good enough to eat I hear.
Melissa was and is a ton better than D'arcy, i didn't expect for D'arcy to come back but it would've been nice for melissa to have. Melissa had said that she would if she was asked. i wonder why billy didn't?
Hands down my fave live vid on Youtube. Not just because of the music, but the camerawork and editing is top notch. Looking forward to the next album, no matter if D'Arcy's not on board. Auf der Maur is a damn good bassist, this vid shows that, I think.
como se nota que hace falta D'arcy, se extrañan a los samshing, los de la era 91-95; solo nos queda escuchar el mellon collie and the infinite sadness y asi recodarlos... "we must never be appart"
Fuck D'Arcy, stupid wierd bitch. Melissa Auf Der Maur shits on her and looks hotter. D'arcy is like some bootleg Swedish bitch. But yes everyone always likes the original band members, look at Guns And Fuckin Roses.
Quiero corregir algo. La forma como canta Billy, desde Adore en adelante, es increíble comparada con años anteriores. Si notan bien, aunque su voz pueda ser algo desagradable para algunos, está afinada durante todo el tema. Antes, sólo se afinaba en sus grabaciones; en vivo era pésimo. Respecto a la canción misma, buenísima. Me gusta mucho esta versión, con Jimmy en la batería y Billy con una acústica. Eso. Y que viva Melissa!!
No, no es lo mismo sin Darcy, esta versión está medio lenta, pero no deja d ser una gran canción, la era del Machina no fue la mejor líricamente, pero musicalmente diría yo que fue cuando mejor lo hicieron, aunque no parezca, sin embargo, sigo prefiriendo el Adore y esta canción con el baterista Kenny Aronoff y los cientos de percusionistas y sintetizadores, todo eso le metia más groove a las rolas del Adore, aún así Jimmy es uno de los mejores para mi...
pienso que darcy esta en...north dakota? idk, algun lugar despoblado donde ella vive con caballos y vende cosas de "arts and crafts" Estoy casi seguro que ella esta terminado con los smashing pumpkins por todo. pero en verdad, me gusta la persona nueva en su lugar. gracias por letting me practice my espanol by the way :)
Que version más genial! no la había oido nunca! Cada dia flipo mas con mr.corgan... 5stars como siempre, sea S.P, o billy, o zwan, da igual. ji ji.. (Muchas gracias por subirla)
Stunning! The dynamic of the band is so much more psoitive with Jimmy in it. And I have to say the Machina concerts were the best out of any tour. (And I have seen plenty of them) I cant wait for them to come back!
How the fuck do you play this on drums?? I WANNA KNOW! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO LEARN BY EAR!
KurdtKobain09 4 months ago
6 people have crooked teeth but no one will pull them
rotinho87 6 months ago
R u kidding his vocals are perfect
cordfluidnevoie 8 months ago
i have never seen teeth as strange as Billy's. i wonder how he brushes his teeth.
OldSchoolLad 1 year ago
billy's so God-like
guyanaboi122 1 year ago
"in you i look so pretty , im pretty " haha awsome
TheNamesBobbyRae 1 year ago
the username remineds me of sarah pailin's grandson, zing
wwa4tna 1 year ago 2
Saw him perform this song last night and it was amazing.
Benspyda1 1 year ago
@Benspyda1 Last night? Where at - I dind't know he was touring...
brimaj 1 year ago
<3<3<3
Limie316 1 year ago
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Uncle Fester!!!!!
MARTINBENITO 1 year ago
billy looks like he bathes in milk
i don't know what that means. --nothing really. he just looks as if he takes milk baths to me.
ballsoutballistic 2 years ago
Kick ass song, great performance!
Billy's at his best -- vocal improv!
Jimmy owns -- he's playing what took 2 people to play on the previous tour without him!
Melissa -- she's looking reaal fine in this. Lady in red.
James -- he's there, what more do you want?
glassfrehley 2 years ago 3
@glassfrehley hey on a preveous vid I watched it took 3 drummers to do what he did on this song
IceCreamMan201 1 year ago
Awesome performance!
bradboyce28 2 years ago
adore
Quadio1 2 years ago 2
incredible how Billy can change a song from a bad way is playing it to one of the best live perfomance of Ava Adore ever
in less then a minute.
musicshake 2 years ago
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yeah. Billy Corgan reminds me the singer of an animated band hiting strong here in Italy not being a million dollar production. Search for SWAVE IN THE FUTURE
TheMRious 2 years ago
5:32 damn
mercymansoccer 2 years ago 2
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mercymansoccer 2 years ago
thats jimmy replacing a whole percussion army (that they had when they toured adore, I seen em!!!) on an electric kit! no darcy here, though...would have rather seen jimmy @ tha show, but darcy was there...
stevecato 2 years ago
I wish they recorded like this on the album.
korrdxl 2 years ago
I totally agree with that, the solo, the structure, the distorted and accoustic guitar and the mighty scream at the end is just pure art.
Pattymv500 2 years ago
corgan! d'arcy!
jamaicanhemp 2 years ago
Esta versión suena mas chida así q como la venían tocando, suena mas a la versión original, no?
ednocondriaco 2 years ago
Melissa Auf Der Maur is so so SO cute!!
yaninplacebo 2 years ago
in the video billy looks like lord volamort
blynych22 2 years ago 2
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mrzerodocfan 2 years ago
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a m a z i n g song.. !
sofiaplacebo 2 years ago
"I'm so pretty!" xD lol
Joceysaurus 2 years ago 3
This is the way this song was meant to be played live, at least arrangement wise. Jimmy's drumming is far more competent than the other drummers' was, and the idea of the acoustic guitar adds another interesting, percussive layer to it all.
flatline626 3 years ago 7
but you see, that is Jimmy playing in the video. and while i do believe he's one of the greatest current rock drummers, the other ones who played with sp during the ava adore period weren't bad- it's just that the musical arrangement was off and somewhat innovative during this period... as you can tell by jimy playing the tiny set right there.
beholderof 2 years ago
haha more chrome dome action
awesome
donnasRock323 3 years ago
played slowly....i didnt enjoyed this..
darkxslaye 3 years ago
you might like the version they played at the metro in 99' theres a video and it kicks ass
reinsdorfsucks3 3 years ago
I like this better at slow tempo, the other live versions of this are just too fast. When I've heard the live last year it felt like they played it within 2 minutes!
Jimmikayey 3 years ago 3
a few of their songs seem to be played too fast when i see em live but its still good. but i totally know what you mean.
darthpaul123 2 years ago
one of my favorite smashing pumpkins songs.. i just bought the Adore album from them as i've been listening to eat every day since... its so pleasant to hear it.
diegopy51 3 years ago
So funny seeing Jimmy play tiny, electric drums.
elsetherino 3 years ago 4
adore!!!
yeah!! :D
zlatan0831 3 years ago
great live song
leew11k 3 years ago 2
GREAT song!!!
mikol818 3 years ago 3
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Yikes!! This is not good. It's scarey sounding. I saw Zwan twice and although the music wasn't my favorite, everybody sounded amazing.
MindyAnne3000 3 years ago
okay first of all how dare you say this is not good, this is pumpkins at their best. Adore was highly underated, because of people like you who think this is "scary". This song has by far my favorite pumpkins video. And has more groove than alot songs that ive ever heard by any band. I also love Zwan and listened to them in the car this morning, but everyone in pumpkins sounds just good as the zwan members. Billy is a beast no matter what band he is in. and that is why your wrong.
beatlesfanman 3 years ago 8
You completely misunderstood what I said.
MindyAnne3000 3 years ago
It's supposed to be a little creepy, that's what the song goes for I think. Go watch the music video, you get a really good sense of the emotions involved.
rohiogerv22 2 years ago 3
the video is frikin messed up, and definetly creepy. Billy looks like a dam vampire
Zengetsu203 2 years ago 3
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interestinglyenuff 3 years ago
billy doesnt have a terrible voice...billy has a billy voice the man actually has range even i cant go low and high as he he does his voice makes the songs what they are...his voice and inflections give the music power and actually let the listener feel what he feels you can feel the emotion!
mjane1389 3 years ago 24
true freakin that
iailwkmm 3 years ago 5
yodle dodle
interestinglyenuff 3 years ago
Billy has a billy voice lol
Mattoxicator 3 years ago 6
i think billy has a unique voice. He may not be the best singer out there but his voice is unique and fits perfectly with the pumpkins' music style
elgordoquenohnm 3 years ago 36
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Kenny Arnoff plays 100 times better this song than Jimmy. He is awful !! However I am not saying his is not good. I Like him but not in this song!!
stigmaweb 3 years ago
There's not much drumming to this song at all.
colindoc84 3 years ago
That humble drum chamberlin is playing, and the way the whole band are placed so near one of the others really fit the song...
undiente 4 years ago
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one of my favorite SP songs...but billy has always had a terrible live voice.
I like the songs live variation though
effy2 4 years ago
Learn to love it boyeeee.
DrSmoothness 4 years ago 4
that's true. i love smashing pumpkins. but it's hard to hear his voice like album version.
Listenit 3 years ago
music is meant to be heard live.
PersonalJesus348 3 years ago 4
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billy has a terrible voice anyway. but i dont give a shit! lol
mikeprince07 3 years ago
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who's the drummer?
jimm06126 4 years ago
Jimmy Chamberlin
tollestrup 4 years ago 4
yeah I remember he came back, and it was surprising for everyone
jimm06126 4 years ago
chamberlin.
CLONEHIGHUSA 4 years ago
ilike this version they sound awsome live
MickyD1992 4 years ago
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I dont like when they change the songs, I like the original
Psyfrox 4 years ago
Love This Song:P
punkrox889 4 years ago 2
Lindooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
Sofiazita18 4 years ago
Hey ya!
Billy Corgan it's a genius.
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anubismontagner 4 years ago 6
Beautiful ending!
mattrules3 4 years ago
I like the Pumpkins live because they always do different versions whenever they play. It's interesting. My favorite band ever.
totallyxskrewed 4 years ago 3
Kick fuckin ass.
Jax420CKY 4 years ago 2
bella canzone
dimavaleforever 4 years ago
Wow. this is one of the few bands that sound good live.
Smashing Pumpkins Rule!!!!!
cammac17 4 years ago 5
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man billys voice sucks ass live...sorry i know ill get a lot of thumbs down for that...
rob5000x1 4 years ago
I kinda like it, saw them live in stockholm way back, whn the machina album came out. Loved their performance
aurasmash 4 years ago 6
so wats iha and darcy up to now this days.
now that they r not in the band
jgxcmonkey 4 years ago
Iha is a solo artist and D'arcy disappered from the public eye.
PersonalJesus348 4 years ago
man that sucks i wish they were still in the band
jgxcmonkey 4 years ago
James' new album is supposed to come out mid '08.
D'Arcy is writing an autobiography about her life in the band.
Dashielus 4 years ago
Yes, how to get money easely...
bibileouf 4 years ago
yeah, Iha didn't want to be in the band anymore, circa 2000. So rather than going on without them at the time, they just called it quits.
pishowda 4 years ago
anybody knows what is the rea problem between corgan and iha?
guz 4 years ago 2
MUCH better than the brazillian version, although I'm still not a big fan of Corgan's voice in these live versions.
ElitePirateUpsilon 4 years ago
i like the piano solo on the Brazilian version and the harmonizing guitar solo
kooljsl 4 years ago
check out billys performance from reading festival. There a vast improvement.
workingclassbum 4 years ago
FUCK OFF
SPENCERtheoneJW 4 years ago
Well, although one should judge a band's member by his/her skillls, the aesthetic it's some how important. It gives some kind of "mystic". Regardless, Ginger Reyes doesn't seems to add that aesthetical match that used to be with D'arcy, or even Melissa auf der Maur, who, by the way, does an awsome performance in her own band.
HerederoBorbon 4 years ago
thanks for posting...great, great version of this song!
reelfangz 4 years ago
the best lineup would've been Billy, Jimmy, James and Ginger. and the hot keyboard chick. i miss James...
GNRfan1969 4 years ago
Ginger is good but i like D'arcy she added that mystic to the Pumpkins.
kooljsl 4 years ago
auf der maur looks flat and ugly, like a zombie. Darcy is flat and ugly too. Ginger Reyes, now shes hot.
petchimp 4 years ago
you got ot be joking.
PersonalJesus348 4 years ago
That's your opinion....respect that... you're an asshole, now, that's my opinion!
guz 4 years ago
The fact that D'arcy can at least sing in tune makes her much hotter than Ginger
Naturality 4 years ago
dude your an ass. they arent models. they're bassists. And i dont think they are flat ugly zombies. they are actually pretty imo. But ginger is hotter you're right.
now for my actual comment. I think billy is a narcissist. Go ahead. Flame me. i like him, but i think he went through a phase where he thought that he was the best. when he says im so pretty? come on.
bobfredward 4 years ago
Another good example, Paz Lenchantin. She is a great musician, and she could have been great for that musical/visual mystic of the band, in the new formation. Sadly, Corgan seems to be angrier with the people from Zwan than with James Iha himself! sad!
HerederoBorbon 4 years ago
wow. try basing them on their playing maybe?
SPENCERtheoneJW 4 years ago
Ginger is pretty hot but the other bassists weren't ugly they were pretty alright.
kooljsl 4 years ago
seeing this video and James in his bright red suit does make me sad that he isnt in the reunion line-up
ichbinderausgang 4 years ago 2
yeah, he's always in a band with a female bassist... d'arcy, melissa, paz (from zwan), ginger...
cherubrock02 4 years ago
lol i think billy has a female bassist fetish
hopelesserik13 4 years ago
its not a female bassist fetish i think its just D'arcy had laid down some vocal tracks so he needed a female to replace do it.
kooljsl 4 years ago
Well Paz and Ginger afterwards kinda discredits that claim. I think he just knows that a feminine astetic is best for bass playing.
PersonalJesus348 4 years ago
Melissa was and is a good Bass player. D'Arcy was too. I don't give a damn what others think. This new girl, no idea what her name is, can play pretty good too and looks good enough to eat I hear.
kcwlf29 4 years ago
Melissa was and is a ton better than D'arcy, i didn't expect for D'arcy to come back but it would've been nice for melissa to have. Melissa had said that she would if she was asked. i wonder why billy didn't?
frighteners 4 years ago
Hands down my fave live vid on Youtube. Not just because of the music, but the camerawork and editing is top notch. Looking forward to the next album, no matter if D'Arcy's not on board. Auf der Maur is a damn good bassist, this vid shows that, I think.
Saniquarium 4 years ago
I wasnt saying anything negative about Melissa, she is very talented, but it would be nice if it was all the original members.
kcwlf29 4 years ago
All of their bassists sucked. They play like 4 notes per song... D'arcy was hot, though.
EricGrubb 4 years ago
it doesnt suck, imo. the new song is very cool, the new bassist plays well, and billy is the owner of the band, not just the singer.
FMRees 4 years ago
I do wish they had brought Auf Der Maur back though. To bad she was busy on her solo album.
darksean99 4 years ago
es mejor bajista la actual, no seas ignorante. Melissa Aus Der AMars SP? rulea, asi que en todo caso serian mejor.
SSNocc 4 years ago
no es mejor q d'arcy, melissa es buena; pero d'arcy ES parte de la esencia de los pumpkins y ella si podia trasmitir el sentimiento THE RIGHT FEELING
melissa simplemente no puede
we must never be apart
de acuerdo con richiejuan !
Suna9 4 years ago
perfect. thats all.
Galuschka 4 years ago
como se nota que hace falta D'arcy, se extrañan a los samshing, los de la era 91-95; solo nos queda escuchar el mellon collie and the infinite sadness y asi recodarlos... "we must never be appart"
Richiejuan 5 years ago
i realy hope they come to roskilde 07... They must come
CommodoreTruls 5 years ago
yes, we must never be apart..
MVPS 5 years ago
Long live the Pumpkins.
MarkusCallaway2006 5 years ago
Is that Auf Du Maur playing bass? She is so underrated, but being from Canada and the fact that she wasn't put in the spotlight-what can ya expect?
tokolove 5 years ago
Yes it is, wonder if she will be on the new album.
07/07/07 we will find out i suppose.
darksean99 5 years ago
In case you havent heard, D'Arcy will not be the bassist for the upcoming tour, which sucks, imo....
kcwlf29 4 years ago
Fuck D'Arcy, stupid wierd bitch. Melissa Auf Der Maur shits on her and looks hotter. D'arcy is like some bootleg Swedish bitch. But yes everyone always likes the original band members, look at Guns And Fuckin Roses.
MrKnoxville351 4 years ago
D'arcy is american.
Videos113355 4 years ago
D'arcy pwns! Melissa is a hottie though. Oh yea and, Buckethead pwns too!
deeno666 4 years ago
tokolove, it's Auf der Maur. which ofcourse in german means on the wall.
nashr1752 5 years ago
Quiero corregir algo. La forma como canta Billy, desde Adore en adelante, es increíble comparada con años anteriores. Si notan bien, aunque su voz pueda ser algo desagradable para algunos, está afinada durante todo el tema. Antes, sólo se afinaba en sus grabaciones; en vivo era pésimo. Respecto a la canción misma, buenísima. Me gusta mucho esta versión, con Jimmy en la batería y Billy con una acústica. Eso. Y que viva Melissa!!
galapogos11 5 years ago
No, no es lo mismo sin Darcy, esta versión está medio lenta, pero no deja d ser una gran canción, la era del Machina no fue la mejor líricamente, pero musicalmente diría yo que fue cuando mejor lo hicieron, aunque no parezca, sin embargo, sigo prefiriendo el Adore y esta canción con el baterista Kenny Aronoff y los cientos de percusionistas y sintetizadores, todo eso le metia más groove a las rolas del Adore, aún así Jimmy es uno de los mejores para mi...
williamsmccallister 5 years ago
this is such a dynamic and diverse band i really love them. i hope to god they come back :) xx
vwpompamrjfbcbz 5 years ago
que extraña vercion, pero buena.... y si billy u are really pretty !!! i love u!!!
Mololos 5 years ago
alguien me dice donde esta darcy
nexuspain 5 years ago
pienso que darcy esta en...north dakota? idk, algun lugar despoblado donde ella vive con caballos y vende cosas de "arts and crafts" Estoy casi seguro que ella esta terminado con los smashing pumpkins por todo. pero en verdad, me gusta la persona nueva en su lugar. gracias por letting me practice my espanol by the way :)
jjadgemini88 5 years ago
a vale!!!que bien podre ir a buscarla y casarme con ella...a y tu es español es muy bueno hermano!!so go ahead!!!
nexuspain 5 years ago
y mi
Michaud111 5 years ago
Que version más genial! no la había oido nunca! Cada dia flipo mas con mr.corgan... 5stars como siempre, sea S.P, o billy, o zwan, da igual. ji ji.. (Muchas gracias por subirla)
cotilli 5 years ago
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh i saw this version live!
yei
arbjork 5 years ago
this is a fucking great version.. i love it :-)
nitraNatro 5 years ago
Stunning! The dynamic of the band is so much more psoitive with Jimmy in it. And I have to say the Machina concerts were the best out of any tour. (And I have seen plenty of them) I cant wait for them to come back!
candacethordsen 5 years ago
I wish i could of went to this show. It must of been great
darksean99 5 years ago
just mindblowing! is it ok? im sorry its just that my english suks.. hehehhee.. great live version.. for real.. ty ty ty ty ty!!!!!!!!!!!!
lazhit 5 years ago
this is the best live version of this song that i have heard- i hated the adore live version, i think it has something to do with the cheesy drummer.
legalnonresident 5 years ago
cool cool cool cool
thx
N1c0l45 5 years ago
anyone know if any of this is available on some bootleg dvd or video? there are some great live vids on here.
yummymayo 5 years ago
wonderful song, thanks for sharing it!
areos 5 years ago
aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh ...destructive relationship
kurtlmf 5 years ago
I went this live!!!!
fumifuming 5 years ago