Solution to a tricky final approach

[awwwwsogood]

YES Pilatus PC6 can almost do this IRL also, not 90 degrees but rather close!!!

There are real PC6 videos here in youtube:

7RIsv1ZRD8w

[dochelp1m]

@kyoshero3000 Du , he played a pilot once , he can comment on it rite smartly .

[poexxope]

The Porter is special. A normal approach can be made at 75 degree decent angle with the prop in flat pitch to a flare with no more than a 100 meter ground roll. I do this all the time and have even had it stop in 30 meters with a 16 meter per second head wind.

With the prop in reverse it would do what the animation shows no problem. The only thing is the consequenses of not having the prop come back out of reverse pitch are potentially fatal.

[7guitarihave]

i think if this were a real aircraft. there would be some serious consequences to this hahaha. probably the stupidest thing a pilot could ever do if he/she was suicidal enough to do it lol

[dfalken1]

NIckh2203, it's true you never even got close to Vne in this video but that's because the simulator is not accurate.  In a real plane you wouldn't only reach Vne, you would break apart.

[bikevoadora]

CAREFULL WITH THAT AXE EUGEEENEEE!! (WATERS) WUUUUUAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

[Thom524230]

Cool Video, I fly FSX myself. But would you please NOTE in the title, "Flight Simm."

There ARE some Videos of Real Pilots doing Radical dives and landings in that aircraft, if you look for them. (Like dropping parachutists and diving to fall along with them.) Otherwise, any landing you can walk away from is a good one! LOL

[aleakaraul]

What this video, real e doesnt seems diferent to me. Real somethings can be unreal too =] -> 7RIsv1ZRD8w

[wilfredotour2]

nice choice, Pink Floyd

[towiga]

sehr langweilig und absolut unrealistisch...

[thekillerpenguinz]

Holy /shit Nice landing

[muntoniG60]

@kyoshero3000 actually it doesn't! search around for skydive vids from the pilot's view, almost all the planes do this kind of approach. it's sick!

[bamclarty]

@muntoniG60 sorry, but wrong, you can only go vertical for about 10 sec. then you have to go to about 45 decrees or it will come out of beta around 120 knots. Still fun though. The skydive vids you see are only the 1st part of the jump.

[dfalken1]

The simulator is not true to real life. I guess because you had full flaps it didn't let speed go up to Vne, however in real life you would rip that plane apart a few seconds of holding that attitude. Maybe you won't reach Vne because of the flaps but the plane will come apart with full flaps way before Vne.

[cfroemming17]

@dfalken1 stole the words right out of my mouth...nice comment.

[mithat87]

Vne much?

[AussieAviator]

God synthetic aircraft replicator 'game' players annoy me !

[gyroplanefdk]

How did you keep the airspeed in the green arc, on a vertical descent?

[TheRandification]

I love how your airspeed doesn't change as you're diving toward the earth at an 84˚ angle.

[sac78008]

Awful video. Great song.

[TalkDaTech]

@kyoshero3000 he has full flaps and brakes on...

[carlylea]

There was a video a few years ago on youtube of someone doing this with a real aircraft... Not sure what the plane was. I think the video was called max efforting or soemthing like that, it must of been removed as I can't find it anymore.

[ertyqwer]

nice choice of music :)

[AntoniosCreed]

Try this with a Boeing 747 ;)

[mattleitner]

At 2:03, why is your attitude indicator indicating straight and level flight? At first, I thought it's just an illusion because the mountain's height, but then the runway looked like it was sloped almost vertically.

[Grant116905]

@mattleitner The attitude indicator is tumbled. The gyros only work to a certain attitude and then "tumble" or fail to indicate accurately. Usually +/- 30 degrees of pitch is all they can handle. After straight and level flying for some time they will regain accurate function.

[Grant116905]

@Grant116905 and to those who think flight sim is a joke, it helped me finish my PPL in 39.2 hours. Had to go fly .8 the day of my checkride to meet the minimum 40 hours. Flight sim is not going to teach you the real hand eye coordination needed to fly but it can teach you a lot of the mental parts of flying (which is 80% of flying).

[maxhover]

let me try that in real plane...........i'll upload a video if i'm still alive........:P

[drumatic86]

check out the picture and smile: psctriengen.ch/upload//images/­Gallerys/43/4C2D-074_Nightflig­ht27.jpg

[drumatic86]

isnt that the nightfly porter from triengen switzerland ? jumped out of that once :)

[cubdriver749er]

great music, reminds me of the "Apocalypse Now" sessions of the Rhythm Devils.

[bamclarty]

It's called beta when the prop is flat pitch and anything over about 110 kts on a properly rigged Porter and it will come out of beta and accelerate rapidly. We regularly did these approaches until we found it caused a lot of cracks in the rudder from the turbulence. We could be at 5000 ft. ¼ mile out and easily land on the numbers. Much fun but hard on the airframe.

[wilfredotour2]

nice music, and uncommon landing, hehe

[warriordriver88]

flight sim is gay do it in real life

[RainbowManification]

@warriordriver88 the good stuff in life always cost alot of money.

[fearofthewaza]

of course,,,i m in it for them as well...al hail pink floyd

[nitrofevr]

Im in it for the Pink Floyd!!!!!

[nolhrt]

Porters, real ones do that all the time. I fly skydivers in a piston single. If I try that, it goes to VNE in no time. I want a Porter! I remember speaking to some skydivers. They told me the porter went past them landed, picked up more jumpers and passed them in the air on the way back up. Brilliant. I can usually get down before any tandems in about four minutes but can never beat solo skydivers. It still makes your ears pop though. Must video and put it up here.

[Speedless73]

this is only a VIDEOGAME

[deassain]

no shit sherlock, you read the description to find that out?

[Speedless73]

nope, i can't read.

many people think that a flight simulator on a home pc is like a real plane...

a flight simulator on a pc is only a game, not a demonstration.

[hotspur666]

I seen pictures of porters doing this...photoshopped?

No because I've done it with the turbo-Mallard,

starting at 8,000 feet one mile out of the lodge,

landed right in front...

And I only used beta, no reverse, but still

was pretty near vertical at 130 knots, flaps up

on the way down.

Nothing prevent reverse on the mallard but phenol blocks on the quadrant, you just move

the power lever around and down you go.

[haykodjan]

yeah man , i saw one of those videos, amazing...i fly realtime, but this is a first time i see this, wow, cool....i feel like a fool now, but this was just to unbelieveble

[haykodjan]

this is impossible approach

[braorius]

Of course this thing is possible:this is an pc6 turbo porter,it has been designed to do this kind of thing.look here on youtube for " beta landing with pilatus porter

"and youll see one doing it :)

[haykodjan]

i saw your vid and the glideslope was not vertical and high like this, app like this is impossible with this plane, may be with extra 300 well, but not with the plane like this

[braorius]

I dont think so,Extra 300 dont have airbrakes and cant reverse the propeller, if one of them goes down verticaly from such this altitude he will exceed his vne and loose his wings and even if the frame resists he will go way to fast to land...The pc6 is able to do vertically descent without gaining airspeed using the reverse:for exemple you can fly at 6000ft, 70kts and go down vertically to 500fts=>your airspeed will still be 70kts during the descent and after the recovery.

[haykodjan]

i dont thing that you can activate reverse during descent like this, and i dont think that spoiers have the ability to keep aircraft like this on 70 k speed during 90° vert. descent like this

[fly4life13]

You can reverse the pitch of the blades causing it to slow down, that is why the PC-6 is such a unique aircraft. It can drop parachutists and fly down vertically beside them, not overtaking them.

[blastodermus]

pink floyd rulezzzzz!!!!

[03v3t2]

you guys are gay. do it for real looser

[33jarhead88]

"Looser; (adjective) -free or released from fastening or attachment"

Learn how to spell before you assert yourself loser.

[transdrole]

The wings didn't break off...cool. And how did you bleed off that mach 3 of airspeed you had? :D

[FSPilotCZ]

reverse thrust in the air :P

[maxvanN]

how do you reverse thrust if I may ask?

[FSPilotCZ]

In flight simulator in controls settings you can find "decrease throttle quickly" and when you sign it on some button and than push it during fly, throttle will decrease below 0%, than you have reverse thrust. But this don't have all planes. Only most of turboprops and jets. I don't know about piston aircraft with reverse thrust.

In real it isn't used during flight in the air usualy.

[UtahStoriesVids]

Careful with that redline Eugene

[toadabc]

Axe them again.

[likeawhispr]

Hmmm.. even with that terrain (which wasn't bad around the airport actually) you could even land a Beechcraft 350 King Air with a normal traffic patter, early turn to base, and then a simple short field landing. Nice vid clip though ;)

[warlock451]

Very Cool

[keysounddotcom]

Nice edit, great idea, gorgeous plane!

[RafaelSteiner7]

That kind of maneuver would so wreck the airplane and engine in real-life.

[freakybuzz]

Fun as this may look, wouldn't a better Real Life solution be:

A) Spiral descent followed by a forward slip to touchdown or:

B) Downwind landing from the opposite direction

[judahsampaio]

vai fazer isso na vida real..rs

[loovusfrez]

over speed much?

[antz6080]

I'd be surprised even with reverse pitch if you can hold this aircraft down for as long as you did without breaking Vne. Have you tried it in the real aircraft?

[Nickh2203]

No . . I'm afraid I haven't been lucky enough to get hold of a real "Porter" . . they are not easy to come by !

As far as the flight sim version is concerned I did not use reverse pitch until touchdown. I have not altered the aircraft.cfg file either so what you see is a stock aircraft from FSD.

[CaptainPlanetcpf]

@Nickh2203 I flew 1 after I learned to sky dive....We did a 3 mile vertical final to the threshold...unreal

[gmanzeroalpha]

@antz6080 Yes but this is not real.

Even pitching the aricrapt down too aggressively will make you come in too fast. Let alone what you have done.

Honestly try it in ANY real aircraft and see what happens. This is a video game and if you tried that in the real plane not only would you have stall on pulling up you would have died.

[ysflightman]

@antz6080 This is possible in a real Porter, there is a neat video of it here on youtube. It's after they "get rid" of some skydivers.

[antz6080]

Nice approach, think you may have busted through Vne though:)

[Nickh2203]

Thanks for the comment antsz . . but check the ASI (top left of the group of six instruments) . . Vne in this thing is 151kts (174mph), way more than I was doing.

[Nickh2203]

The plane is the FSD Turbo Porter

[Cometogetherall]

PC-6

[hashingtonwoliday]

that music scared the sit out of me.

[FlyingJ8]

Wow, so many FPS, i'm lucky when i get 10 :)

[ChristopherC42]

where you got this plane of ?

[marcozara93]

what is the name of airplane?is a pilatus,piper......I dont know!

[plianfaa]

Pilatus PC6 Porter.

[Boeng757]

Omg why the airplane was so slow on touchdown ? and where was G - Force ? all monitor souhld be black ? :O

[Nickh2203]

Ferryair,

Please don't worry too much about Kyles' comments . . I'm not, but I do appreciate the moral support . . thanks. He has his views which are interesting at least.

I am in fact a PPL holder and fly Arrows out of Bristol (International) Airport, which is why Kyle's comments don't phase me.

This vid was purely a bit of fun.

I would love a clutch at the real thing, but there are not many 'Porters' around my area.

Thank you to all for the positive and very welcome comments.

[vihai]

PPL without tailwheel endorsment, right? :)

[Nickh2203]

No . . Tailwheel, IMC and night ! :)

[vihai]

And... what happens if you don't touch down on three points?

[Nickh2203]

In this vid I did what is called a "wheeler" landing. I was carrying too much speed to hold off to the stall for a three point landing.

Wheelers are usually used when there is a crosswind or breezy conditions, It gives you more control.

[ferryair]

Kyle, There are some of us who can afford the real thing and there are some who can't !!! Please don't piss on someones shoes and then tell them it's raining !!!

I regularly fly Turbines (including a PC6 & PC12)and I have done that approach !!! not for the fainthearted.

[B206III]

Haha, not what my old instructor would have called a 'good stabilsed approach'. Not to mention ATC having a fit and shock-cooling the engine. C'est la vie. Good video!!

[hje91]

Its a Turbine... no need to worry about shock cooling

[grahamshark1]

YEA BOY!!!! THATS MY KIDA STYLE!!! TRY DOING THAT ON A 747!!!!! TRY IT ITS FUN sweet vid

~grahamshark~

[Joeflyer99]

Love the vid! Most of all, love the FSD Porter...I have it on my system,too. Have you tried it with Aerosoft's Lukla scenery? Add to it FS Passengers and you got a winner of a situation :o)

[plair473]

Dude I skydive out of Porters all the time, and I can tell you, that ride would be better than the freefall! As long as you dont crash!! Remember, take offs are optional...landing is mandatory! BLUE SKIES!!!

[sheldonholy]

What model are you using... where did you get it??

Sheldon

[Nickh2203]

There is reverse pitch on the Turbo Porter, but full flap and throttle to idle did the trick in the dive.

If you look at the interior shot just after touch down a yellow light comes on above the altimeter . . thats' reverse pitch :)

[JSAirways]

omg! look at the airspeed in the dive!! r u using reverse thrust?! that's not normal!!!

[AviatorAndyK]

wat music is this, sound kinda like the doors a little

[Nickh2203]

As Basbakker11 said, the track is called Careful with that axe Eugene, by Pink Floyd. It's off the Ummagumma album from the 1970's, so you got the era right.

Hope you like it.

[R1Kyle]

Wow a video game.. Your a thrill seeker. Wooo wooo.

[SenorSpode]

Perhaps you can put your illusion of money where your mouth is and finance the real thing for him? Or is your 'thrill' ollying off a curb and breaking your wrist?

[R1Kyle]

I ownd a real Yak 54 and now I own a Sukhoi 29... So no Skate boards here.

[waul1490]

not many of us can afford Yaks and Suk 29s like you.

[R1Kyle]

Ultralights are cheap and huge amounts of fun.

That is always an option if you want to fly for real. You could think about that direction.

[yak55x]

I used to own a Yak55M. But I don't go around pissing on everyone who doesn't. Fly what you got. Even if it's a sim. Fly the crap out of it. Piss off Kyle boy. it's probably your dad's airplane. Or your an old immature idiot.

[basbakker11]

careful with that axe eugene !

[708702]

wow nice one

[jms8088]

Good Vid! Good timing on the soundtrack too!

[CTE02]

Nice approach! How about the C130 ;-) Like the screaming soundtrack too! I guess that was the sound of your passengers whe you started the dive!!