I think she is definitely better than Frank West who is imo completely an assist character, because he has to do a lot before he is at his most effective by himself, and even then he isn't very good. I think a lot people have let her lack of a wavedash keep them from seeing all her other strengths. There a re a lot of characters that have poor mobility so it's not like she's alone on that.All Hsien Ko needs his somebody to do for her what Gamerbee did for Adon, and this video is a good start :D
Capcom was probably afraid to buff her in the transition from Vanilla to Ultimate because of her Gold Armor. Which is completely unfounded when you have much cheaper install crap running around like Devil Trigger, Sougenmou, and Luminous Body, along with other characters who are solid both as an assist and on point (i.e., Doom). With a few small tweaks, like Pendulum cancels and a faster airdash (two tools she abuses in her home series), she could be a good threat. But for now, just keep reppin.
Amazing, thanks a lot! We need more people digging for her potentials. I really think she's not as useless as many regarded her to be, given the chance.
I've got to try these, especially with the team I'm trying to make. I love Hsien-ko, but I don't know if it's such a good idea to put her as an anchor.
I don't know if I like her as point or anchor personally, but I think she has potential in the middle. With X-Factor she can do plenty of damage in X-Factor level 2 or 3, but I still think she needs a good assist to help solve her mobility problem.
@Jaddahakarie She doesn't make for a good anchor because of her mobility issues (though you should get used to using her in XF of course). I find she is most effective as second, as you can safely DHC into her Rimoukon/Gold Armor and hard tag back out to your point who will benefit greatly from the armored Pendulum. Some people like running her on point to cause a little havoc and Gong and armor up, then tag out too.
Fantastic combo video! There's no reason Hsien-Ko can't be upper tier when you combine this tech with her invincible assist. Thanks for adding the notations.
She has a lot of tools given to her, and with her new combos in Marvel, the only thing holding her back is her mobility. That's more than made up for by her assist, though :).
Make that seven people because I use Hsien-Ko too. But dude, I totally love you now! I've been trying to come up with stuff for Hsien-Ko to get better, so thank you so much! While it did bother me that you didn't finish with Tenrai Ha or Chirentou, I totally get where it's going from there.
I'm glad you understand why :). Chirentou I probably should have finished with since it's damage isn't random, but again, to get all the hits you still need the right positioning.
Thanks for the comment! I'm really happy to know this video helped!
You can do the loops at the end of the combos. However, I do believe you'll only be able to get 3 or 4 loops at most compared to all 5. I could be wrong on this, but I believe hit-stun deterioration does kick in eventually.
Even so, with the combo damage before hand, Hsien-Ko can kill any character in the game so long as she has the meter to spend. It's a hefty cost, but usually worth it.
While this hasn't convinced me that Hsien-Ko isn't a 1000000% waste of space that could've been someone worthwhile,this is still a decent combo video. Although,I was very bothered by the fact that you didn't finish a single one of these combos. QCB+2atks. SMH
Nice to see other Hsien ko players out there :) You really gave me a good chunk of ideas that i can implement into my game! Thanks and keep up the henkyo ki madness!
@Pdaaaawg Oh,it is. I did my research; it turns out that slot could've been used for characters like anyone from Power Stone,Yun,Alex,Batsu,and a host of characters that would've actually mattered and been good characters that don't rely on gimmicks.
@K66famous Alex? You mean that loser with the headband? We already have Haggar, don't need a worse grappler, Zero already has a better genei jin than Yun and no one knows who Batsu is Kappa
@KillYounglings No,you see,Jill actually has a purpose,because she's actually a great character,with great assists and mix-ups that would make your head explode. Hsien-Ko should have stayed in DS because she's nothing but a weak,slow,useless,low-potential character to the point where most people would rather the Capcom side have one less character then run the risk of having to play Hsien whenever they run a random lobby with friends.
@K66famous Gameplay-wise, you're right, but personally, I'd have taken a buffed Hsien-Ko over RE5 Jill any day. A jiang shi with claws and shit flying out of her hands is just such a fucking cool idea that never got old to me.
that last one was just cruel LOL
HydroExcel 3 days ago
I think she is definitely better than Frank West who is imo completely an assist character, because he has to do a lot before he is at his most effective by himself, and even then he isn't very good. I think a lot people have let her lack of a wavedash keep them from seeing all her other strengths. There a re a lot of characters that have poor mobility so it's not like she's alone on that.All Hsien Ko needs his somebody to do for her what Gamerbee did for Adon, and this video is a good start :D
cmysharingan 1 week ago
Capcom was probably afraid to buff her in the transition from Vanilla to Ultimate because of her Gold Armor. Which is completely unfounded when you have much cheaper install crap running around like Devil Trigger, Sougenmou, and Luminous Body, along with other characters who are solid both as an assist and on point (i.e., Doom). With a few small tweaks, like Pendulum cancels and a faster airdash (two tools she abuses in her home series), she could be a good threat. But for now, just keep reppin.
IMMAOILMAN 4 weeks ago
Hsien-Ko is def. a classic. loved her ever since i first saw her in Pocket Fighter when i was like 8 or something.
She's actually the quencher for me to want this game.
megahead360 1 month ago
I love Hsien-Ko to death. I have a couple of combos with Dr. Strange and her, but i haven't manage to master those combos yet though.
superlitakisser 1 month ago
Amazing, thanks a lot! We need more people digging for her potentials. I really think she's not as useless as many regarded her to be, given the chance.
Iostars 1 month ago
@Iostars
I agree completely with you. She's more than just an assist character, we just need to discover and work for it :).
RhyllisLive 1 month ago
@RhyllisLive In ten more years she WILL be top tier. (I hope) :)
paperkirby37 3 weeks ago
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paperkirby37 3 weeks ago
I've got to try these, especially with the team I'm trying to make. I love Hsien-ko, but I don't know if it's such a good idea to put her as an anchor.
Jaddahakarie 1 month ago
@Jaddahakarie
I don't know if I like her as point or anchor personally, but I think she has potential in the middle. With X-Factor she can do plenty of damage in X-Factor level 2 or 3, but I still think she needs a good assist to help solve her mobility problem.
Best of luck with your team!!
RhyllisLive 1 month ago
@RhyllisLive Thank you! =D
Jaddahakarie 1 month ago
@Jaddahakarie She doesn't make for a good anchor because of her mobility issues (though you should get used to using her in XF of course). I find she is most effective as second, as you can safely DHC into her Rimoukon/Gold Armor and hard tag back out to your point who will benefit greatly from the armored Pendulum. Some people like running her on point to cause a little havoc and Gong and armor up, then tag out too.
IMMAOILMAN 4 weeks ago
@IMMAOILMAN I will keep that in mind, thank you very kindly.
Jaddahakarie 3 weeks ago
Fantastic combo video! There's no reason Hsien-Ko can't be upper tier when you combine this tech with her invincible assist. Thanks for adding the notations.
joey86641 1 month ago
@joey86641
She has a lot of tools given to her, and with her new combos in Marvel, the only thing holding her back is her mobility. That's more than made up for by her assist, though :).
RhyllisLive 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
About time someone did one of these. Can you add Tenrai-Ha to those early loop BnBs?
shotofighter4 1 month ago
@shotofighter4
Yes, you can. I only didn't do it because Tenrai-Ha does random damage and I didn't want to give numbers that weren't definite :).
RhyllisLive 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Make that seven people because I use Hsien-Ko too. But dude, I totally love you now! I've been trying to come up with stuff for Hsien-Ko to get better, so thank you so much! While it did bother me that you didn't finish with Tenrai Ha or Chirentou, I totally get where it's going from there.
LucarioEddBoy 1 month ago
@LucarioEddBoy
I'm glad you understand why :). Chirentou I probably should have finished with since it's damage isn't random, but again, to get all the hits you still need the right positioning.
Thanks for the comment! I'm really happy to know this video helped!
RhyllisLive 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Out of curiosity at the end of those combos can you do the super loop? Or is that only off a raw super?
Leavant 1 month ago
@Leavant
You can do the loops at the end of the combos. However, I do believe you'll only be able to get 3 or 4 loops at most compared to all 5. I could be wrong on this, but I believe hit-stun deterioration does kick in eventually.
Even so, with the combo damage before hand, Hsien-Ko can kill any character in the game so long as she has the meter to spend. It's a hefty cost, but usually worth it.
RhyllisLive 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@RhyllisLive Thats true. Makes up for her not having a whole lot of combos out side of that. Thanks!
Leavant 1 month ago
While this hasn't convinced me that Hsien-Ko isn't a 1000000% waste of space that could've been someone worthwhile,this is still a decent combo video. Although,I was very bothered by the fact that you didn't finish a single one of these combos. QCB+2atks. SMH
K66famous 1 month ago
Excellent video, thanks for taking your time for us 6 Hsien Ko players that could use this help.
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GiganX3 1 month ago
Yes thank you. i love Hsien-Ko.
soulsq2 1 month ago 7
@soulsq2
As do I my friend.
RhyllisLive 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Nice to see other Hsien ko players out there :) You really gave me a good chunk of ideas that i can implement into my game! Thanks and keep up the henkyo ki madness!
jiraiya567 1 month ago
Sick work dude! Glad to see the X-factor air loop made it in. :D
scandiumtrioxide 1 month ago
@scandiumtrioxide
Thanks to you! :)
RhyllisLive 1 month ago
My God. Those were amazing. Looking forward to clash with you online (if I encounter you)
Darkrai002813 1 month ago
@Darkrai002813
I'm not very good at Marvel, but if we do play, I hopefully will put on a good show!
RhyllisLive 1 month ago
Who's Hsien-Ko?
Pdaaaawg 1 month ago
@Pdaaaawg
Die in a fire >: (
RhyllisLive 1 month ago 20
@Pdaaaawg Hsien-Ko is a character in UMvC3 who stole every GOOD capcom character's spot on the roster. You're welcome.
K66famous 1 month ago
@K66famous That sounds pretty accurate
Pdaaaawg 1 month ago
@Pdaaaawg Oh,it is. I did my research; it turns out that slot could've been used for characters like anyone from Power Stone,Yun,Alex,Batsu,and a host of characters that would've actually mattered and been good characters that don't rely on gimmicks.
K66famous 1 month ago
@K66famous Alex? You mean that loser with the headband? We already have Haggar, don't need a worse grappler, Zero already has a better genei jin than Yun and no one knows who Batsu is Kappa
GanguroKonata 1 month ago
@K66famous Hsien-Ko's a classic. You must be talking about RE5 Jill. She wasn't even a worthwhile replacement for HERSELF on the roster.
KillYounglings 1 month ago
@KillYounglings No,you see,Jill actually has a purpose,because she's actually a great character,with great assists and mix-ups that would make your head explode. Hsien-Ko should have stayed in DS because she's nothing but a weak,slow,useless,low-potential character to the point where most people would rather the Capcom side have one less character then run the risk of having to play Hsien whenever they run a random lobby with friends.
K66famous 1 month ago
@K66famous Gameplay-wise, you're right, but personally, I'd have taken a buffed Hsien-Ko over RE5 Jill any day. A jiang shi with claws and shit flying out of her hands is just such a fucking cool idea that never got old to me.
KillYounglings 1 month ago 3
@KillYounglings
I know, right? Her design warrants a few buffs alone. All well, in Ultimate I feel she's much better than before at least!
RhyllisLive 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
great demo of her jump cancels and combo extensions! keep up the great work
amrinl0ng 1 month ago
@amrinl0ng
Thanks for the compliment!
RhyllisLive 1 month ago
one of the most awesome hsien ko's ever
Itachi2201 1 month ago
@Itachi2201
Thanks!
RhyllisLive 1 month ago
seems your new recording equipment is working well :)
Zaero111 1 month ago
@Zaero111
I think so too :).
RhyllisLive 1 month ago
I didn't know you played this game. :O
AnonymousUsar 1 month ago
@AnonymousUsar
I do, though not well. Phoenix Wright and Hsien-Ko are too much fun <3.
RhyllisLive 1 month ago