FOX 'News' is the porn of news networks. It is pure propaganda.
On a side note, I don't think Hugo Chavez closed down any news networks, in fact I think he purposefully implemented policies to allow for a free media...ironically a kind of FOX phenomenon occurred over there where the privately owned networks demonized him as much as possible and were utterly biased in their reporting, supporting an undemocratic coup. But that's another story.
Glynnis MacNickol "writes" for Mediaite, Writes is in quotes because all she really does on Mediaite is link to other articles and puts her name on them. She is a huge hack and the fact that she writes for Mediaite should tell you all you really need to know.
if cenk has such a problem with fox then why dont he go on fox and debate with them im sure they would love to have him . and why down play the ratings the reason they have such high ratings is cause they speak on the issues that concern the majority of american people and i know i dont watch someting on tv i dont like
They didn't touch a nerve of anything, they're getting ratings the same way Howard Stern got them. Because the people that love them watch them and the people that hate them watch them. To see what they say next. For the blind sheep who love them and jerk off to, and for the haters to see what sort of bias they will say next.
Because theyre not you idiot. If anything i believe CNN leans a lil to the right. MSNBC is slightly to the left. The others are mostly real news. FOX is completely insanely to the "right" You really dont see that?
I get all my news from the net now, Main stream has become a journalistic joke. No one asks the hard questions because they don't want people not to come on, and everyone sprinkles in their opinion for their own bias.
There is way too much opinion in news and the people need to get outraged enough to do something about. I just don't know exactly how, either by not watching them or some other means to fight it by organizing for an unbiased media network that just tells us what's up.
You're so right on the money everytime. I love it. I like how you just dealt with the straight truth on every point. You did it so well that she had to change her point to be able to have something to disagree with you on. LOL. Wow! I guess she thought no one would notice. Thanks, man. You're the best!
What would you rather have the White House concerning themselves with? Fox News, the economy, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, gay rights, security at the U.N., genocide in Africa?
This woman is a total idiot. She talks about Fox's ratings as a validation of their news credentials. But what Fox does is cater to the sensationalist streak that runs through this nation. They cover news in an "Enquirer" style variety and that's why they get so many viewers. It's completely in the White House's best interests to push back against that kind of blatant distortion and bias.
Indeed. I don't think they realize that if they're going to use the Argument from Popularity for FOX News, then they have to admit Obama was the best man for the job since he won the most votes.
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Wow, so the liberal agenda is to extinguish the 1st amendment simply because they have a different ideology? These "young turds" are obviously mentally damaged.
Yeah, nothing like O'Reilly who yells and tells people to shut up on his show when they're trying to get a point in, cutting off their mic. if they continue to try and get a word in.
What a dumb bitch. A bald assertion doesn't become more true every time you say it. Give it a rest lady. Fox is clearly the aggressor and they deserved the rebuke 100%.
I agree with Cenk, on everything he said in that interview (and in post on Huffpo today) .
If Fox news stated fair and square they were Conservative news service, rather than maintaining this 'fair and balanced' stuff, then no one would have an issue with them.
I don't see why the WH shouldn't express their opinion, Just as Fow News does, 24/7.
CNN was so proud of deffending Fox the other day. What cnn has done is totaly counter productive to honest journalism which is what cnn is and should always be about.
I totally agree with Cenk on this issue. The white house didn't take any kind of legal action against them, they just pointed out that Fox News exists to do as much damage to them as they can and stated that they didnt' want to talk to them anymore. What's wrong with that?
I remember one episode of the Fox show *The Simpsons* that made fun of Fox News. One of the characters was watching Fox News. I don't remember the topic. But I remember crawls that asked things such as "Do Democrats cause cancer?" In effect, the Obama administration announced its policy on Fox News. But I do kind of wish the White House had stayed above it and let the DNC and us grunts do the push back.
She has no argument at all. Weak sauce. Who does she work for?
I would have thought the other channels would be glad about this snub on Fox, purely from a logical, human point of view - anyone with any morals at all can see that Fox is populated by rotten people and is completely corrupt.
Cenk is right to hammer the final point home, I can't see anything wrong with what the whitehouse is doing, and it's about time.
All other major networks are afraid, they see that if the president can de-certify a major news channel.....they're next. They're speaking out in defense of Fox news for the means of self survival, nothing more. You may HATE Fox news and may consider their viewers the biggest red neck retards in the world, but remember this, the censorship pendulum WILL come for you next.
This is not a left wing / right wing cause, this is a matter of freedom.
Well put, but the fact is that Cenk is right, they do present opinion as fact, and they are liars. They should be forced to come clean about their right wing bias and stop calling themselves fair and balanced, but that would require government intervention in the running of the show - so the cleanest way to deal with the problem is to simply call them what they are and refuse to deal with them. Fox encourages so much idiocy in America that they should be defined a terrorist organisation.
Somebody needs to call Fox News for what they are. Who better to do so than the President of the US who is entrusted with the general welfare not of a particular organisation but of the entire nation.
I actually agree with glynnis. FOX is a joke but the Feds shouldnt be putting their hands in it or trying the fix it. Responcible journalist should be doing that. I all of our mainstream median organizations (like fox) are just ratings grabing money hog then we are all screwed anyway because we are only getting the information that some rich guy paid to be out there
How many times did Cenk make the point that they aren't doing anything to Fox News? They are stating their position with words and there's nothing wrong with that. If the so-called journalists aren't doing their jobs, should the administration simply say nothing?
fox news gets their ratings because old people get their news from television and tend to be republican... young people get their news from the internet and tend to be democrats
So, at first she said that blaming a few members of the fox organization is the right way to have addressed the problem, when she herself is blaming the "government" for what one administration says. It is true that this administration wields a lot of power, but so does the Fox "news" organization ( as she agreed to many times).
-- My point is that her thought that the leadership in government reflects the organization as a whole, should also be a notion placed on the Fox "news" organization.
"The Free Press" How can it be a free press when it's corporate sponsored and required to generate huge amounts of revenue through ratings. FNC gets huge ratings for the same reason Reality Television shows do. It spoon feeds the viewer a story that's actually scripted with a slant that appeals to the average TV viewer and doesn't require any intellectual exertion whatsoever. Bill Maher and Jon Stewart are more fair & balanced than FNC and they are self described partsian comedians.
very well put together statement, do you really expect to be taken seriously when you just say the word socialist without actually making the case. How is he a socialist? What do you think a socialist is? Give examples that show Cenk is a socialist, otherwise keep your ignorant opinion to yourself. The fact is that some elements of socialism are good. There are some areas where the government should be in control, like health care. Places where private corps. cant be trusted to do what is right.
I really admire how people can debate in this way in such a civilized manner. I've lived in the developing world and can tell you that they just can never do that over there. I really like this about this country (America).
To say Fox is not a news org because you dont happen to agree with its opinion shows is just ridiculous. MSNBC "tilts left" I watch KO and Rachel bash pres. Bush and conservatives everynight. KO has " STILL BUSHED AND 1443 DAYS SINCE PRES BUSH DECLARED MISSION ACCOMPLISHED IN IRAQ" .....you dont like FOX, dont watch em. But dont pretend other news outlets MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS and PBS etc are not biased. Its excepted by everyone (even the left) the MSM tilts left...
i see you haven't been paying any attention at all to the interview when cenk said numerous times that "bias" doesn't bother him. did you not hear the part where he said he doesn't mind beck and orielly that much? why are you so determined to be a completer and utter jackass?
as consumers of TV news WE SHOULD weigh the info & draw resonable educated conclusions.The problem is A) people are; lazy, stupid/too busy to research things. & B) some ACTUALLY beleive FOX"news" IS real news based on facts not just stuff some guy makes up.Unfortunately our citizenry is getting dumber & dumber, by pandering to the lowest common denominator Fox acheives the ratings that sell the products that pay for the shows that pander..
Ms. Mac Nichol basically admits that Fox News has only two journalists working for them. Shepherd Smith and Major Garrett . I don't disagree with that. Smith hosts two hours a day, and most of Garrett's appearances are on Smith's shows, so Fox News presents a little more than two hours of actual news every day.
Wow, this woman is either completely in bed with Fox or doesn't listen. If Obama was trying to get them off the air or cancel their shows, then that would be censoring and completely unacceptable.
What he's actually doing is calling them out on their bullshit and correcting their statements.
Poor Fox "News", I know it's not nice when someone stands up to you for a change.
I disagree. I hate Fox News, absolutely hate them. However i do not hate them for their rightward lean. I do not hate them for their attacks on Obama. What I actually hate them for is the way they report. As an aspiring journalist it pains me to see them report and try and evoke fear and paranoia in every story. They actually had a title that said "Is Free Health Care Worse Than Cancer?" C'mon if you're going to question Healthcare Reform you have to report it better than this.
That's what I meant. They can call names all they want, but when they twist the facts as much as they tend to do, it's not reporting. I'm just happy Obama is finally speaking out against their nonsense "reporting".
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hitler censored the press because he said it was "unfair", stalin censored the press because he said it was "unfair", mao censored the press because he said it was "unfair", and now obama is censoring the press...do you liberals see a pattern now?
What's that you say? Fox news is being censored by Obama and the government? Fox news is being handed an Obama script?
Wait, what? You say Fox news is still spreading heaps of dung wherever they go? But you said the Obama administration is censoring Fox... Oh,,, You're a mental midget who doesn't understand the difference between criticism and censorship. Well, why didn't you say so? XD
But it was totally okay when they were riding W's dick CONSTANTLY. I'm not the biggest fan of Obama, in fact I didn't even vote for him so, don't do the usual conservative comeback that i'm an Obama humping Liberal. It's great to challenge authority; to an extent. However, they are BEYOND biased, and the only reason they don't like Obama is because he is not republican.
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Fox doesn't like Obama because he is a republican? That's is so ignorant it's actually embarrassing. Look at fox. They criticize his polices not necessarily his party. And Obama's policies are nonsensical.
Wow, you are the definiton of ironic buddy. The fact that you are so IGNORANT against fox's OBVIOUS bias is embarassing. Typical of someone so oblivious to their surroundings (AKA republicans who have their head shoved so far up Fox's ass they don't know up from down. (And they don't like Obama because he's NOT a republican, jackass. Maybe do a little read over your comments before you post them and make yourself (if it's possible) look stupidier)
hahaha are these people great. They are all over every video on youtube on this topic trying to claim that Fox is a straight shooter. They probably saw Brit Hume and O'Reilly when they made the case of how fair , unbias and non partisan they are and figured it must be gospel LOL It's depressing to see how horrible people's critical thinking skills are.
Ron Paul is a republican and he was marginalized you idiot. As well as McCain when he defended certain policies. It's the policies that count not party idiot.
You're absolutely right. I can't argue with that statement at all. However, Fox "News" is not concerned with policy, but party. So your arguemt fails again.
The right wing line is that "everyone else" thinks Obama walks on water... and that the only way to prove "them" wrong is to attack, attack, attack. No one I know, however much they like Obama (and/or any of his political actions), thinks he is Jesus, walks on water, is a saint or any of the other things Fox "news" types constantly harp about.
Right wing? What is this right wing. Do you have an evolved mind capable of comprehending things outside a sport like event? A vs B scenarios. Go to a better school please.
Interestingly, the only people who seem to make an Obama/Jesus connection are people that watch Fox. Your post exactly proves the point of the White House. Thanks!
I just find ironic that Fox and conservatives criticized MSNBC for attacks on Bush, now they rip Obama apart. Doesn't seem right. They should have not said anything when the left questioned Bush. Then may be their beef with Obama would seem more authentic and not looking like sour grapes.
Again hank1972 i have no interest in the left vs right false dichotomy I'm far to intelligent than that and intelligence is based on comprehension of complexities. What do you define as right or left? I guarantee you will contradict yourself.
ocelot814: Fair enough. No problem with an actual JUSTIFIED criticism of a politician.
If, on the other hand, it's not true, then the government has the right to turn around and do what you just said: criticize Fox a.k.a. a bunch of biased people who many seem to worship as heroes, yet in fact are just guys you've never met.
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Cenk is a poor debater. This my second time seeing him debate and he misses opportunities to clearly illuminate his points. I like the show and his analysis; his debating prowess, not so much
Another difference between journalism and fox news can be seen on this video;
No one is shouting and slandering each other. G.M and Cenk stay respectful and have a really good debate. i was more interested in this than anything ive EVER seen on O Reilly or Hannity.
Absolute PWNage! That poor dear didnt have a chance against Cenk. To her credit, that was a valiant effort on Glynnis' part. She is a good debater and she did a great job making Cenk look good. I mean lets face it, it wasnt a heated debate on a sensitive issue. It's a "gimme", in that Cenk's viewpoint is pretty much agreed upon by TYT watchers. She came on his show, put up a fight, and made it look good to give Cenk some cred and to help mix it up for his show.
mediaite is a bit of strange website that follows media. its owned and run by former msnbc host dan abrams, who is also the current legal correspondent at NBC, and pretty much a liberal if you listen to him talk, so its weird that he would be running a site that is pretty much apologists to fox news all the time.
glynnis was nice and the debate was very cordial, but she constantly tried to rationalize fox news' actions and the claim that they arent a new organization without any real evidence.
Dan Abrams is not much of a liberal. It just goes to show the degree to which everything that is not conservative automatically is called "liberal" that people like Dan Abrams are called "liberal"
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Cenk doesn't realize" There are no news organizations" All have an agenda: MSNBC,CNN,FOX,and so on have one master: Advertising. Each have a target audience that they aim to get. Fox goes after the conservatives, MSNBC goes after Liberals, and CNN gets the rest.
Cenk is wrong. The WH never said they were going to 'punch back' at Fox. They said they were going to treat them as an organization with a Republican slant, and they noted that other media organizations should do the same to maintain the integrity of their own programming. There is nothing wrong - there isn't even anything remotely controversial with that policy.
I just don't get it. Why is she defending Fox News? Are they paying her or something? The White House has every reason to defend itself since the press obviously has questionable judgement on this issue. Makes me wonder what else we can trust the collective press on if they can't even see this. Perhaps they are trying to make this a freedom of the press issue when it's really not even about that.
colbert report, is equivalent to fox news except we know it is all for comedy. If fox news came out tomorrow and said that the were just kidding about everything they say and became a comedy channel we would all agree. and act like we knew all along. Talk about lipstick on a pig!
The ONLY reason Fox enjoys its ratings is because they speak in inflammatory terms (to draw attention to themselves) and because there is no other competing conservative-oriented networks.
CNN and MSNBC seem to lean a little left, so liberals are divided between the two. There is NO moderate conservative network though, so all conservatives have available to watch is Fox.
C'mon...who REALLY watches Fox News b/c they think it gives the best journalism and the most relevant news stories???????
I wanted Cenk to just flat-out say, "Shouldn't blatantly partisan news and opinion be explicitly presented as such, rather than masquerading as objective journalism?" and he just never quite said it directly and forcefully enough.
I think he's trying to be polite. He did say, over and over, they are just saying that Fox isn't news, and she just diagrees. I wish he would have said "Can you give me an example of how they are going beyond the bounds of simply saying Fox isn't news?"
well at least you met me half way by admitting that MSNBCrap is just as guilty as FOX. Obamba doesn't get juvenile and pissy with NBC though cuz he loves their coverage of him. Obamba is a filthy hypocrite
friction - 'MSNBCrap' is nowhere near the level of Fox's bullshit. Do MSNBC have opinion shows that are left leaning?..yes.Olbermann and Maddow are 2 that spring to mind. But their 'straight news' anchors cover the news fairly... plus their morning show, morning joe is definitely conservative leaning. Fox 'news' just swiftboats every god damn issue on every segment using talking points directly from republican memos, and skewing it and twisting it to attack democrats. It is absolutely pathetic
so meeting you full way would be admitting that they love fox news like you do? and when has obama ever gotten juvenile and pissy? its fox news that goes on the air bitching and moaning crying about why he wont come on their network. he doesnt even waste time thinking about them... just ignores them like the fly he swatted with his hand that one time.
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Fox News is the NEWS CHANNEL of GOD HERSELF! Fox will PWN Obambi and help install Sarah Palin as America's GREATEST POTUS in 2012! Fox's female anchors are Saints and Angels from Heaven and its male reporters are PROPHETS and APOSTLES who speak the VOICE, WORD and WILL of GOD HERSELF! When Palin becomes POTUS, Fox will become THE NATIONAL news channel. CNN and MSNBC will be shut down by President Palin and liberalism will die a painful and agonizing death!
Cenk: Mcginnis talks about Faux' wonderful ratings. Well what OTHER ratings will they get when in many parts of the country FAUX is the ONLY station that is offered??? MSNBC and CNN are BLOCKED. I have friends who have stayed in hotels, been in restaurants, waiting in line somewhere and guess what is being shown on the flat screen? FAUX. Tell her the wonder ratings of FAUX is because they dominate the airwaves, not because they are so wonderful. Sheesh. I am just sayin' ...
Limp wristed liberals like this chick is the reason why the right wing backs them into a corner.They just allow the right wing to make them their bitches.
Fox intentionally lies to their audience, therefore, they are NOT a news organization. Now, the question becomes "who determines what is truth and what isn't". You know, an independent "truth commission" would be nice... If only it couldn't be corrupted.
Truth can be determined in many things. Climatologists unanimously say Climate Change is real, and overwhelmingly say people are contributing to it. Yet people still won't believe it.
Here is the issue; "someone" needs to step forward to require the truth. No, I don't want government determining "what is news and what isn't", but when a media group is intentionally lying to their audience, "somebody" has to come forward to call them out on it, and if no one else is going to "step up", then yes, I do want my government stepping forward to tell me that I am being lied too. Now, I will require evidence, but I would listen.
This video is mistitled. It should have been, "Cenk eats alive a naive, malinformed twit."
Other than Fox 'n' Friends, America's Newsroom, Neil Cavuto, Brett Baier, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and Greta van Susteren, Fox News is really on the level. No one would care a fig about Fox if it called itself what it truly is: Fox Republican AgitProp.
It is NOT as if the power of the State was being used against Fox. That would be a constitutional issue; not a political one.
Glynnis MacNichol is totally wrong. The White House and Pentagon placed the 17 major news organizations in an impossible bind in 2002, saying that, in order to gain access to WH and Pentagon briefings, they had to present Bush's wars according to his directives, not theirs. They all signed on, and sold their collective souls in order to gain access. The announcements of this Bush intimidation should have been all over Page 1, instead the new orgs all rolled over and took it like they were told.
Politically I think the whitehouse attacking Fox isnt the right move. its a waste of time, they need to be attacking the blue dogs.
That said there is NO violation of the 1st amendment. the WH kept attacks verbal.
If they sent police officers to arrest Hannity, beck, Murdock and Ayles etc (as much as i would like that) then it would be a violation of the 1st amendment
OMG, she actually thinks Faux is a news organisation? In that case, so is Comedy Central and Travel Network. How come Obama has never appeared on South Park!!! What planet is she from? She sounds like a Neo-con to me.
I listened to what Glynnis said and yes I understand what she is saying, but I disagree with her. Lies can get people killed and if it is lies directed at the president and it is misleading people then that person has a right to defend their stance!~ She is taking things a bit to far because Cenk stood str8 and never waived.
I am not sure what she's getting at. Her argument is weak. Maybe in an ideal world the WH could totally stay out of the fray & the media could filter out the propaganda, but then again, maybe rainbow skittles will rain down from the sky tomorrow and we can all live off of them and Chocolate Bunny rabbits forever. Pure fantasy. The WH is just calling Fox out for what it is because nobody else of note will. I think she's cute though, I like when she laughed when Cenk said "Golly gee whillikers."
WH saying Fox isnt news ISNT government interference
WH secretly telling Biden to call up blackwater, to send assasins to murder rupert Murdoch, and Beck and deploying a platoon of marines to barricade the Fox news building, then rounding up and arresting then excecuting all its hosts. IS government intervention
God these idiots need to spend a year in a country with an actual dictatorship, then maybe they wouldnt take their freedoms for granted or envy the suffering of people who arent free.
What a naive idiot she is. Wow. A hell of a LOT to learn obviously.
ridewave444 6 months ago
I like how Cenk is trying to argue who is bias....That is hilarious.
DanMonDab 10 months ago
Haha he said "Tea Bag" at 2:54 when referring to Tea Partyists. I love this guy.
stiny91 10 months ago
the government is attacking a political organization not a media organization. it's very simple
mangajo 1 year ago
FOX 'News' is the porn of news networks. It is pure propaganda.
On a side note, I don't think Hugo Chavez closed down any news networks, in fact I think he purposefully implemented policies to allow for a free media...ironically a kind of FOX phenomenon occurred over there where the privately owned networks demonized him as much as possible and were utterly biased in their reporting, supporting an undemocratic coup. But that's another story.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago
Glynnis MacNickol "writes" for Mediaite, Writes is in quotes because all she really does on Mediaite is link to other articles and puts her name on them. She is a huge hack and the fact that she writes for Mediaite should tell you all you really need to know.
starkweather444 1 year ago
if cenk has such a problem with fox then why dont he go on fox and debate with them im sure they would love to have him . and why down play the ratings the reason they have such high ratings is cause they speak on the issues that concern the majority of american people and i know i dont watch someting on tv i dont like
maddmurphy311 1 year ago
its ok for cenk to interrupt her, but she needs to "hold on" when he's saying something.
soccer21928 1 year ago
If Fox news is not considered as news neither should MSNBC be considered news as well.
lostworld2420 1 year ago
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lostworld2420 1 year ago
Good ratings don't mean good news, just good presentation.
I can hand you a platter with the best burgers you've ever tasted
But is it healthy?
luanluan2006 1 year ago
fox has good ratings partly because its entertaining. not because its so trusted.
radiolaugh 1 year ago
They didn't touch a nerve of anything, they're getting ratings the same way Howard Stern got them. Because the people that love them watch them and the people that hate them watch them. To see what they say next. For the blind sheep who love them and jerk off to, and for the haters to see what sort of bias they will say next.
mrx0066600 1 year ago
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Cenk is a dishonest prick
wants Fox News to tell the world they're a conservative leaning organization or else they're dishonest
when have ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, CNN told the world they're a left/liberal leaning media?????? hey??
genie0390 2 years ago
Because theyre not you idiot. If anything i believe CNN leans a lil to the right. MSNBC is slightly to the left. The others are mostly real news. FOX is completely insanely to the "right" You really dont see that?
Ivan951 2 years ago 6
@Ivan951
I get all my news from the net now, Main stream has become a journalistic joke. No one asks the hard questions because they don't want people not to come on, and everyone sprinkles in their opinion for their own bias.
There is way too much opinion in news and the people need to get outraged enough to do something about. I just don't know exactly how, either by not watching them or some other means to fight it by organizing for an unbiased media network that just tells us what's up.
mrx0066600 1 year ago
You're so right on the money everytime. I love it. I like how you just dealt with the straight truth on every point. You did it so well that she had to change her point to be able to have something to disagree with you on. LOL. Wow! I guess she thought no one would notice. Thanks, man. You're the best!
melvina628 2 years ago
What would you rather have the White House concerning themselves with? Fox News, the economy, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, gay rights, security at the U.N., genocide in Africa?
oliverleehornbake 2 years ago
FOX is REAL NEWS!!! ...and WRASSLIN' is REAL too! ...n' so is them UFOs that probed me down in the holler...
chowpappy 2 years ago
All you need to see: 5:50 - 6:25
chenalos 2 years ago
Glynnis MacNicol sounds like she unsure and actually believes that the US Government is going to shut down the news organization.
If you believe that, I guess you would believe anything.
imbeachasbro 2 years ago 5
This woman is a total idiot. She talks about Fox's ratings as a validation of their news credentials. But what Fox does is cater to the sensationalist streak that runs through this nation. They cover news in an "Enquirer" style variety and that's why they get so many viewers. It's completely in the White House's best interests to push back against that kind of blatant distortion and bias.
beeshor1 2 years ago 16
Indeed. I don't think they realize that if they're going to use the Argument from Popularity for FOX News, then they have to admit Obama was the best man for the job since he won the most votes.
Aarixan 2 years ago 3
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I like Glynnis. Shes really trying moderatism.
Landfried22 2 years ago
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Wow, so the liberal agenda is to extinguish the 1st amendment simply because they have a different ideology? These "young turds" are obviously mentally damaged.
KenpoProfessor 2 years ago
Yeah, nothing like O'Reilly who yells and tells people to shut up on his show when they're trying to get a point in, cutting off their mic. if they continue to try and get a word in.
Aarixan 2 years ago 4
What a dumb bitch. A bald assertion doesn't become more true every time you say it. Give it a rest lady. Fox is clearly the aggressor and they deserved the rebuke 100%.
spikebarnett 2 years ago 4
I agree with Cenk, on everything he said in that interview (and in post on Huffpo today) .
If Fox news stated fair and square they were Conservative news service, rather than maintaining this 'fair and balanced' stuff, then no one would have an issue with them.
I don't see why the WH shouldn't express their opinion, Just as Fow News does, 24/7.
Trafalgar1961 2 years ago 9
CNN was so proud of deffending Fox the other day. What cnn has done is totaly counter productive to honest journalism which is what cnn is and should always be about.
warrenoc 2 years ago 5
Obama is brilliant... by making this a news story, it gets Fux Noise out of the way of the health care issue... this is their top story
naturalmystic33 2 years ago 2
I totally agree with Cenk on this issue. The white house didn't take any kind of legal action against them, they just pointed out that Fox News exists to do as much damage to them as they can and stated that they didnt' want to talk to them anymore. What's wrong with that?
devourerofbabies 2 years ago 5
I remember one episode of the Fox show *The Simpsons* that made fun of Fox News. One of the characters was watching Fox News. I don't remember the topic. But I remember crawls that asked things such as "Do Democrats cause cancer?" In effect, the Obama administration announced its policy on Fox News. But I do kind of wish the White House had stayed above it and let the DNC and us grunts do the push back.
newdarnaccount 2 years ago
She has no argument at all. Weak sauce. Who does she work for?
I would have thought the other channels would be glad about this snub on Fox, purely from a logical, human point of view - anyone with any morals at all can see that Fox is populated by rotten people and is completely corrupt.
Cenk is right to hammer the final point home, I can't see anything wrong with what the whitehouse is doing, and it's about time.
thomasrix 2 years ago 6
Btw: How can macnicol go around and being so naive? in my mind, thats just being plain stupid.
kefkahkefkah 2 years ago
All other major networks are afraid, they see that if the president can de-certify a major news channel.....they're next. They're speaking out in defense of Fox news for the means of self survival, nothing more. You may HATE Fox news and may consider their viewers the biggest red neck retards in the world, but remember this, the censorship pendulum WILL come for you next.
This is not a left wing / right wing cause, this is a matter of freedom.
Mayhem900 2 years ago
Well put, but the fact is that Cenk is right, they do present opinion as fact, and they are liars. They should be forced to come clean about their right wing bias and stop calling themselves fair and balanced, but that would require government intervention in the running of the show - so the cleanest way to deal with the problem is to simply call them what they are and refuse to deal with them. Fox encourages so much idiocy in America that they should be defined a terrorist organisation.
thomasrix 2 years ago 3
Somebody needs to call Fox News for what they are. Who better to do so than the President of the US who is entrusted with the general welfare not of a particular organisation but of the entire nation.
demowarrior 2 years ago 2
I actually agree with glynnis. FOX is a joke but the Feds shouldnt be putting their hands in it or trying the fix it. Responcible journalist should be doing that. I all of our mainstream median organizations (like fox) are just ratings grabing money hog then we are all screwed anyway because we are only getting the information that some rich guy paid to be out there
brab79 2 years ago
How many times did Cenk make the point that they aren't doing anything to Fox News? They are stating their position with words and there's nothing wrong with that. If the so-called journalists aren't doing their jobs, should the administration simply say nothing?
TransitionalSpecies 2 years ago 5
Straight to the point, and i agree 100 %. Its been stated alot of times in videos and comments why it could be.
Most journalist whants to keep their option open for future job, to unecesseray bash any channel is always taken care of.
Another thing is as long as you have a outward apperance of "big news", the money that is, you get of the hook by your "fellow" anchors.
Another thing, these anchors dont seem that bright to me, ive lost any respect i even had now to the same clowns.
kefkahkefkah 2 years ago 2
fox news gets their ratings because old people get their news from television and tend to be republican... young people get their news from the internet and tend to be democrats
spiderwebb33 2 years ago
This is a joke right. This clown kind of reminds me of the ditto guy in the Alltel ads...
revueltos67 2 years ago
If its NOT NEWS - then DON'T call it NEWS.- and calling LIES NEWS misleading the country and is Nearly if not treasonous!
ccm800 2 years ago
LADY my office has NEWS validity...but WE DON'T CALL OURSELVES NEWS!
ccm800 2 years ago
Jerry Springer had AWESOME ratings - but he didn't call themselves NEWS
ccm800 2 years ago 2
Cenk owns
ccm800 2 years ago 2
So, at first she said that blaming a few members of the fox organization is the right way to have addressed the problem, when she herself is blaming the "government" for what one administration says. It is true that this administration wields a lot of power, but so does the Fox "news" organization ( as she agreed to many times).
-- My point is that her thought that the leadership in government reflects the organization as a whole, should also be a notion placed on the Fox "news" organization.
cronos245 2 years ago
"there's a difference between being a politician and the president of the United States"
--MacNicol
XD
vitaminec109 2 years ago
"The Free Press" How can it be a free press when it's corporate sponsored and required to generate huge amounts of revenue through ratings. FNC gets huge ratings for the same reason Reality Television shows do. It spoon feeds the viewer a story that's actually scripted with a slant that appeals to the average TV viewer and doesn't require any intellectual exertion whatsoever. Bill Maher and Jon Stewart are more fair & balanced than FNC and they are self described partsian comedians.
hollygolightly66 2 years ago 2
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This guy is a effin moron. you socialist fuck!
youngrepub83 2 years ago
very well put together statement, do you really expect to be taken seriously when you just say the word socialist without actually making the case. How is he a socialist? What do you think a socialist is? Give examples that show Cenk is a socialist, otherwise keep your ignorant opinion to yourself. The fact is that some elements of socialism are good. There are some areas where the government should be in control, like health care. Places where private corps. cant be trusted to do what is right.
Nolanfan26 2 years ago 3
OMYGOD, could you guys imagine cenk on a news network and how entertaining the interviews would be? sigh.
chefawkes 2 years ago 3
I really admire how people can debate in this way in such a civilized manner. I've lived in the developing world and can tell you that they just can never do that over there. I really like this about this country (America).
AbuSaladin 2 years ago
They dont know Cenk? Do they?
Pawned
TheLogicalTheist 2 years ago
She got schooled!!
jibsmokestack1 2 years ago 3
To say Fox is not a news org because you dont happen to agree with its opinion shows is just ridiculous. MSNBC "tilts left" I watch KO and Rachel bash pres. Bush and conservatives everynight. KO has " STILL BUSHED AND 1443 DAYS SINCE PRES BUSH DECLARED MISSION ACCOMPLISHED IN IRAQ" .....you dont like FOX, dont watch em. But dont pretend other news outlets MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS and PBS etc are not biased. Its excepted by everyone (even the left) the MSM tilts left...
3ddan24 2 years ago
i see you haven't been paying any attention at all to the interview when cenk said numerous times that "bias" doesn't bother him. did you not hear the part where he said he doesn't mind beck and orielly that much? why are you so determined to be a completer and utter jackass?
chefawkes 2 years ago 3
lol this girl had no idea what she was getting into. :)
Dane42o 2 years ago 3
as consumers of TV news WE SHOULD weigh the info & draw resonable educated conclusions.The problem is A) people are; lazy, stupid/too busy to research things. & B) some ACTUALLY beleive FOX"news" IS real news based on facts not just stuff some guy makes up.Unfortunately our citizenry is getting dumber & dumber, by pandering to the lowest common denominator Fox acheives the ratings that sell the products that pay for the shows that pander..
HeatherLeigh97023 2 years ago
Ms. Mac Nichol basically admits that Fox News has only two journalists working for them. Shepherd Smith and Major Garrett . I don't disagree with that. Smith hosts two hours a day, and most of Garrett's appearances are on Smith's shows, so Fox News presents a little more than two hours of actual news every day.
mdey1970 2 years ago
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mdey1970 2 years ago
Glennis needs a sun tan! and her views are equally as pale
mblasko 2 years ago 2
It was a great debate.
Cenk made the point that the government should fight back if attacked.
Glynnis made the point that it's a sad state of affairs that the government would need to step in, but that's kind of the point she's missing, really.
That people think that these opinion shows, on Left or Right - necessarily equal news, IS a sad state of affairs.
A problem is that, in the actual news is mixed party propaganda, so the distinction is blurred.
There should be a true distinction.
1000Demons 2 years ago
Glynnis MacNicol is as blind as a bat---or dingbat, if you prefer.
Just another overratted dipshit in the media. Ergo---she'll most likely go far.
Fuckin' idiot.
kurd55 2 years ago
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you sound like o'riley cenk
jaqx2 2 years ago
Fox news has brainwashed yet another person (that person being Jjaqx2)
MetalShin0bi 2 years ago
Glynnis has some point. But it's a bit not valid in the argument.
Nades129 2 years ago
Wow, this woman is either completely in bed with Fox or doesn't listen. If Obama was trying to get them off the air or cancel their shows, then that would be censoring and completely unacceptable.
What he's actually doing is calling them out on their bullshit and correcting their statements.
Poor Fox "News", I know it's not nice when someone stands up to you for a change.
TheSkepticalArtist 2 years ago 6
I agree with you.
FireScorpion343 2 years ago
I disagree. I hate Fox News, absolutely hate them. However i do not hate them for their rightward lean. I do not hate them for their attacks on Obama. What I actually hate them for is the way they report. As an aspiring journalist it pains me to see them report and try and evoke fear and paranoia in every story. They actually had a title that said "Is Free Health Care Worse Than Cancer?" C'mon if you're going to question Healthcare Reform you have to report it better than this.
HowardSave1 2 years ago 3
That's what I meant. They can call names all they want, but when they twist the facts as much as they tend to do, it's not reporting. I'm just happy Obama is finally speaking out against their nonsense "reporting".
And good luck with your journalism career!
TheSkepticalArtist 2 years ago
Me too. Fox news is crazy, conspiracy, lying, scumbags that isn't news. That lady is an idiot.
MrSmartBob 2 years ago
WTG Cenk! And good for Ms MacNicol for coming on!
Screenplaya 2 years ago
PWNED
TheFunkyDomination 2 years ago
Thought provoking and civil conversation ... 5 Stars
Ricb67 2 years ago
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hitler censored the press because he said it was "unfair", stalin censored the press because he said it was "unfair", mao censored the press because he said it was "unfair", and now obama is censoring the press...do you liberals see a pattern now?
tehant1liberal 2 years ago
Yeah, dictators censoored the press and Obama has not.
Gore1FL 2 years ago 7
How is he 'censoring' the press? Can we censor you?
ambrosesams 2 years ago 5
What's that you say? Fox news is being censored by Obama and the government? Fox news is being handed an Obama script?
Wait, what? You say Fox news is still spreading heaps of dung wherever they go? But you said the Obama administration is censoring Fox... Oh,,, You're a mental midget who doesn't understand the difference between criticism and censorship. Well, why didn't you say so? XD
ApemanD 2 years ago
Obama is not 'censoring' the press as you stated, tehant. Can you give examples?
In 8 years of his presidency, Bush did not give an interview to the New York Times.
Now, who is censoring the press?
bamboozlewatch 2 years ago 4
There's absolutely nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.
Onithyr 2 years ago 6
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At least fox news is critical of this administration rather than pretending Obama is Jesus.
ocelot814 2 years ago
But it was totally okay when they were riding W's dick CONSTANTLY. I'm not the biggest fan of Obama, in fact I didn't even vote for him so, don't do the usual conservative comeback that i'm an Obama humping Liberal. It's great to challenge authority; to an extent. However, they are BEYOND biased, and the only reason they don't like Obama is because he is not republican.
outtaspacie 2 years ago 11
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Fox doesn't like Obama because he is a republican? That's is so ignorant it's actually embarrassing. Look at fox. They criticize his polices not necessarily his party. And Obama's policies are nonsensical.
ocelot814 2 years ago
Who claimed Obama was a Republican?
Gore1FL 2 years ago 2
Wow, you are the definiton of ironic buddy. The fact that you are so IGNORANT against fox's OBVIOUS bias is embarassing. Typical of someone so oblivious to their surroundings (AKA republicans who have their head shoved so far up Fox's ass they don't know up from down. (And they don't like Obama because he's NOT a republican, jackass. Maybe do a little read over your comments before you post them and make yourself (if it's possible) look stupidier)
outtaspacie 2 years ago 2
hahaha are these people great. They are all over every video on youtube on this topic trying to claim that Fox is a straight shooter. They probably saw Brit Hume and O'Reilly when they made the case of how fair , unbias and non partisan they are and figured it must be gospel LOL It's depressing to see how horrible people's critical thinking skills are.
PoliticalSkeptic 2 years ago 5
Thank you! I get so many fools trying to throw their distorted "logic" at me, its refreshing to know there are sane people out there. :D
outtaspacie 2 years ago 5
Ron Paul is a republican and he was marginalized you idiot. As well as McCain when he defended certain policies. It's the policies that count not party idiot.
ocelot814 2 years ago
You're absolutely right. I can't argue with that statement at all. However, Fox "News" is not concerned with policy, but party. So your arguemt fails again.
outtaspacie 2 years ago 2
Policies are largely formed by PARTY platforms, you ignorant dipshit hayseed. Republicans and Democrats have very DIFFERENT platforms, moron.
What party marginalized Ron Paul the most, moron? Republicans, moron.
Take a basic course in civics, you worthless cowpoke.
kurd55 2 years ago 2
The right wing line is that "everyone else" thinks Obama walks on water... and that the only way to prove "them" wrong is to attack, attack, attack. No one I know, however much they like Obama (and/or any of his political actions), thinks he is Jesus, walks on water, is a saint or any of the other things Fox "news" types constantly harp about.
mstax 2 years ago 5
Right wing? What is this right wing. Do you have an evolved mind capable of comprehending things outside a sport like event? A vs B scenarios. Go to a better school please.
ocelot814 2 years ago
Interestingly, the only people who seem to make an Obama/Jesus connection are people that watch Fox. Your post exactly proves the point of the White House. Thanks!
Gore1FL 2 years ago 5
Well Fox criticizes Obama which is a great thing. It disrupts the hero worship of some guy you've never met.
ocelot814 2 years ago
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outtaspacie 2 years ago
So why was it bad when MSNBC criticized Bush and Hannity, O'Rielly, and they rest of that cesspool over at Fox was out raged?
hank1972 2 years ago
Are you talking to me? My argument is against hero worship on other words no criticism of some pseudo leader.
ocelot814 2 years ago
I just find ironic that Fox and conservatives criticized MSNBC for attacks on Bush, now they rip Obama apart. Doesn't seem right. They should have not said anything when the left questioned Bush. Then may be their beef with Obama would seem more authentic and not looking like sour grapes.
hank1972 2 years ago 3
Again hank1972 i have no interest in the left vs right false dichotomy I'm far to intelligent than that and intelligence is based on comprehension of complexities. What do you define as right or left? I guarantee you will contradict yourself.
ocelot814 2 years ago
ocelot814: Fair enough. No problem with an actual JUSTIFIED criticism of a politician.
If, on the other hand, it's not true, then the government has the right to turn around and do what you just said: criticize Fox a.k.a. a bunch of biased people who many seem to worship as heroes, yet in fact are just guys you've never met.
Your argument cuts both ways :)
1000Demons 2 years ago
1000Demons I agree.
ocelot814 2 years ago
This is one of Cenk's strongest debates I've seen. He absolutely hammers this woman's complacency.
nofishnochips 2 years ago 13
Cenk vs. Howtheworldworks was even more of a slaughter.
lonelygreenteagirlie 2 years ago
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Cenk is a poor debater. This my second time seeing him debate and he misses opportunities to clearly illuminate his points. I like the show and his analysis; his debating prowess, not so much
rockkarolla1 2 years ago
Disagreed. Not poor, not spectacular.
m3th0dm4n 2 years ago
Hey MacNicol... uh.. listen, you married?
Rahab111222 2 years ago
She just wants to be a higher paid puppet.
HydroDay 2 years ago
Another difference between journalism and fox news can be seen on this video;
No one is shouting and slandering each other. G.M and Cenk stay respectful and have a really good debate. i was more interested in this than anything ive EVER seen on O Reilly or Hannity.
ourlucidream 2 years ago 3
Absolute PWNage! That poor dear didnt have a chance against Cenk. To her credit, that was a valiant effort on Glynnis' part. She is a good debater and she did a great job making Cenk look good. I mean lets face it, it wasnt a heated debate on a sensitive issue. It's a "gimme", in that Cenk's viewpoint is pretty much agreed upon by TYT watchers. She came on his show, put up a fight, and made it look good to give Cenk some cred and to help mix it up for his show.
paragshah2112 2 years ago
mediaite is a bit of strange website that follows media. its owned and run by former msnbc host dan abrams, who is also the current legal correspondent at NBC, and pretty much a liberal if you listen to him talk, so its weird that he would be running a site that is pretty much apologists to fox news all the time.
glynnis was nice and the debate was very cordial, but she constantly tried to rationalize fox news' actions and the claim that they arent a new organization without any real evidence.
GstateBALLER925 2 years ago
Dan Abrams is not much of a liberal. It just goes to show the degree to which everything that is not conservative automatically is called "liberal" that people like Dan Abrams are called "liberal"
CavemanSynthesizer 2 years ago
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Cenk doesn't realize" There are no news organizations" All have an agenda: MSNBC,CNN,FOX,and so on have one master: Advertising. Each have a target audience that they aim to get. Fox goes after the conservatives, MSNBC goes after Liberals, and CNN gets the rest.
Panchoroy 2 years ago
Great job Cenk. Her argument was extremely weak. The white house is not interferring with shit. They're just punching back, as they very well should.
Airbag360 2 years ago 5
excellent point from 7:15 to 7:50 !!!!
jeremimi 2 years ago
damn gleynnis is HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
vinehanger 2 years ago
REALLY???
Gweezy12 2 years ago
fox news is a GOP racist news farce!
filthyfun 2 years ago
I get my infromation from there.
lonelygreenteagirlie 2 years ago
Pure demolishment. Cenk sent her to the shed. She knows her argument is a crock of shit that's why it was so lack luster.
someperson111 2 years ago 3
glynnis is weak
nycityzen 2 years ago
i love cenk's smug face at about 3:20 ish
peasinacan 2 years ago
Cenk is wrong. The WH never said they were going to 'punch back' at Fox. They said they were going to treat them as an organization with a Republican slant, and they noted that other media organizations should do the same to maintain the integrity of their own programming. There is nothing wrong - there isn't even anything remotely controversial with that policy.
chillmonster 2 years ago 3
I just don't get it. Why is she defending Fox News? Are they paying her or something? The White House has every reason to defend itself since the press obviously has questionable judgement on this issue. Makes me wonder what else we can trust the collective press on if they can't even see this. Perhaps they are trying to make this a freedom of the press issue when it's really not even about that.
Belloran24 2 years ago
So the white house has to sit back and let other journalists defend them? And if no one defends them, they have to just take it?
IntractableJ 2 years ago 6
Cenk is absolutely right, the administration has every right to defend themselves and refute the lies Fox News are proliferating.
juliandeathgod 2 years ago 7
Fox news is to cable news what professional wrestling is the pro sports ..theres fake and theres real
fashizze 2 years ago 4
colbert report, is equivalent to fox news except we know it is all for comedy. If fox news came out tomorrow and said that the were just kidding about everything they say and became a comedy channel we would all agree. and act like we knew all along. Talk about lipstick on a pig!
upyall 2 years ago 5
Great job Cenk!
WARDOG1138 2 years ago 5
The ONLY reason Fox enjoys its ratings is because they speak in inflammatory terms (to draw attention to themselves) and because there is no other competing conservative-oriented networks.
CNN and MSNBC seem to lean a little left, so liberals are divided between the two. There is NO moderate conservative network though, so all conservatives have available to watch is Fox.
C'mon...who REALLY watches Fox News b/c they think it gives the best journalism and the most relevant news stories???????
govolsuh1n 2 years ago 4
Ugh...this interview frustrated me SO. MUCH.
I wanted Cenk to just flat-out say, "Shouldn't blatantly partisan news and opinion be explicitly presented as such, rather than masquerading as objective journalism?" and he just never quite said it directly and forcefully enough.
BionicDance 2 years ago 3
Yeah, I don't know why, he's said it so many
times before.
juliandeathgod 2 years ago
I think he's trying to be polite. He did say, over and over, they are just saying that Fox isn't news, and she just diagrees. I wish he would have said "Can you give me an example of how they are going beyond the bounds of simply saying Fox isn't news?"
eirefrance 2 years ago
Fox news like a train wreck..you have to watch it..its not good, but you have to look at it
pooyan6969 2 years ago 3
MSNBCrap is NOT real news
they employ news actors and leftwing smear merchants. MSNBCrap is nonstop cheerleading squad for Obamba and the left
friction00815 2 years ago
as opose to the very fair and balanced fox news that clearly have no agenda what so ever?
f00g3n 2 years ago
i agree, they are just as bad as fox news. fox and msnbc should be entertainment opinion stations, and not considered news.
leusch13 2 years ago
well at least you met me half way by admitting that MSNBCrap is just as guilty as FOX. Obamba doesn't get juvenile and pissy with NBC though cuz he loves their coverage of him. Obamba is a filthy hypocrite
friction00815 2 years ago
yeah, politicians in general are all terrible.
leusch13 2 years ago
friction - 'MSNBCrap' is nowhere near the level of Fox's bullshit. Do MSNBC have opinion shows that are left leaning?..yes.Olbermann and Maddow are 2 that spring to mind. But their 'straight news' anchors cover the news fairly... plus their morning show, morning joe is definitely conservative leaning. Fox 'news' just swiftboats every god damn issue on every segment using talking points directly from republican memos, and skewing it and twisting it to attack democrats. It is absolutely pathetic
dagorian86 2 years ago 6
hey dagorian, if the legitimate news stories that FOX covers happen to reflect badly on Obamba and his democrats then TOO BAD.
Obamba should have kept his nose clean all these years
friction00815 2 years ago
You misspelled Obama
nijaexhile3 2 years ago
friction smells it obamba for some reason... its supposed to be some way of making fun of him.
GstateBALLER925 2 years ago
so meeting you full way would be admitting that they love fox news like you do? and when has obama ever gotten juvenile and pissy? its fox news that goes on the air bitching and moaning crying about why he wont come on their network. he doesnt even waste time thinking about them... just ignores them like the fly he swatted with his hand that one time.
GstateBALLER925 2 years ago 3
if you want to call msnbc MSNBCrap, then fnc is FNCrap. same shit.
GstateBALLER925 2 years ago
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Fox News is the NEWS CHANNEL of GOD HERSELF! Fox will PWN Obambi and help install Sarah Palin as America's GREATEST POTUS in 2012! Fox's female anchors are Saints and Angels from Heaven and its male reporters are PROPHETS and APOSTLES who speak the VOICE, WORD and WILL of GOD HERSELF! When Palin becomes POTUS, Fox will become THE NATIONAL news channel. CNN and MSNBC will be shut down by President Palin and liberalism will die a painful and agonizing death!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
I wish I could "subscribe" to your comments.
zet168 2 years ago 2
God is a black man.
Zeromus7 2 years ago
NO! GOD IS A WHITE WOMAN! Palin is GOD's CHOSEN ONE, GOD INCARNATE and the LIVING EMBODIMENT of GOD HERSELF!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
You need help, check your medications again.
cdleaser 2 years ago
Ok so the White House punching back, this will mean that Fox will finally shut up about Acorn right.
Scarpsad 2 years ago
This chick is a tard. She clearly has a thought stuck in her head and she isn't going to change her mind. Goddamn.
d3v07 2 years ago 5
Cenk: Mcginnis talks about Faux' wonderful ratings. Well what OTHER ratings will they get when in many parts of the country FAUX is the ONLY station that is offered??? MSNBC and CNN are BLOCKED. I have friends who have stayed in hotels, been in restaurants, waiting in line somewhere and guess what is being shown on the flat screen? FAUX. Tell her the wonder ratings of FAUX is because they dominate the airwaves, not because they are so wonderful. Sheesh. I am just sayin' ...
mntleo2 2 years ago
I agree with Cenk 100%, yet again.
superdragoncat 2 years ago 5
Limp wristed liberals like this chick is the reason why the right wing backs them into a corner.They just allow the right wing to make them their bitches.
jxsilicon9 2 years ago 3
i bet she sucks cock better than edit political povs.
totylee 2 years ago
Fox intentionally lies to their audience, therefore, they are NOT a news organization. Now, the question becomes "who determines what is truth and what isn't". You know, an independent "truth commission" would be nice... If only it couldn't be corrupted.
lawtek711 2 years ago 3
Truth can be determined in many things. Climatologists unanimously say Climate Change is real, and overwhelmingly say people are contributing to it. Yet people still won't believe it.
rcevey2 2 years ago
Here is the issue; "someone" needs to step forward to require the truth. No, I don't want government determining "what is news and what isn't", but when a media group is intentionally lying to their audience, "somebody" has to come forward to call them out on it, and if no one else is going to "step up", then yes, I do want my government stepping forward to tell me that I am being lied too. Now, I will require evidence, but I would listen.
lawtek711 2 years ago 3
This video is mistitled. It should have been, "Cenk eats alive a naive, malinformed twit."
Other than Fox 'n' Friends, America's Newsroom, Neil Cavuto, Brett Baier, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and Greta van Susteren, Fox News is really on the level. No one would care a fig about Fox if it called itself what it truly is: Fox Republican AgitProp.
It is NOT as if the power of the State was being used against Fox. That would be a constitutional issue; not a political one.
clownpenisfart 2 years ago 5
Glynnis MacNichol is totally wrong. The White House and Pentagon placed the 17 major news organizations in an impossible bind in 2002, saying that, in order to gain access to WH and Pentagon briefings, they had to present Bush's wars according to his directives, not theirs. They all signed on, and sold their collective souls in order to gain access. The announcements of this Bush intimidation should have been all over Page 1, instead the new orgs all rolled over and took it like they were told.
audadvnc 2 years ago 4
Also she is right. It shouldnt be the whitehouse's role to go after fox or point out the obvious it should be the role of the other media outlets.
Unfortunately with the exception of some of MSNBC. the other media outlets have been woefully incompetent
3star2nr 2 years ago 2
You're wrong.
ARom101 2 years ago
Politically I think the whitehouse attacking Fox isnt the right move. its a waste of time, they need to be attacking the blue dogs.
That said there is NO violation of the 1st amendment. the WH kept attacks verbal.
If they sent police officers to arrest Hannity, beck, Murdock and Ayles etc (as much as i would like that) then it would be a violation of the 1st amendment
the WH is free to say whatever they want.
This bitch doesnt know the constitution
3star2nr 2 years ago 3
OMG, she actually thinks Faux is a news organisation? In that case, so is Comedy Central and Travel Network. How come Obama has never appeared on South Park!!! What planet is she from? She sounds like a Neo-con to me.
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Kenjineering 2 years ago
I listened to what Glynnis said and yes I understand what she is saying, but I disagree with her. Lies can get people killed and if it is lies directed at the president and it is misleading people then that person has a right to defend their stance!~ She is taking things a bit to far because Cenk stood str8 and never waived.
dadreamzworld 2 years ago 3
I am not sure what she's getting at. Her argument is weak. Maybe in an ideal world the WH could totally stay out of the fray & the media could filter out the propaganda, but then again, maybe rainbow skittles will rain down from the sky tomorrow and we can all live off of them and Chocolate Bunny rabbits forever. Pure fantasy. The WH is just calling Fox out for what it is because nobody else of note will. I think she's cute though, I like when she laughed when Cenk said "Golly gee whillikers."
billthebutcher2 2 years ago
She seems smart, but I have to say that her definition of 'government interference' is a tad hyperbolic.
killerbandit 2 years ago 4
WH saying Fox isnt news ISNT government interference
WH secretly telling Biden to call up blackwater, to send assasins to murder rupert Murdoch, and Beck and deploying a platoon of marines to barricade the Fox news building, then rounding up and arresting then excecuting all its hosts. IS government intervention
God these idiots need to spend a year in a country with an actual dictatorship, then maybe they wouldnt take their freedoms for granted or envy the suffering of people who arent free.
3star2nr 2 years ago 4
Actually, Beck is claiming there is a conspiracy against him. Conservatives LOVE to claim oppression.
In BOOKS and on TV and on RADIO they claim they are being OPPRESSED. Think about that dichotomy for a bit.
rcevey2 2 years ago