Not all germans exactly loved hitler or the nazi's, they were fighting for their country just like the americans, japanese, etc. This is what we call nationalism. Because of this nationalism the nazis were able to do unspeakable things, just like every other country was, and be able to get away with it.
i live in Germany and the man is ignorant if he really believes that the commander of the naval ship was NOT a member of the Nazi party...he would not have gotten that high rank in the 3rd Reich to command a battle ship. just woulnt happen. what a fool. historian? he should check out his sources first.
@Pisces31660 - I don't know if it was required to join the Nazi party. From Wikipedia: "in April 1930 he was promoted to Lieutenant Commander. In 1931 he was recalled to Berlin as his administrative abilities were well-known and appreciated. Following the coming to power of the Nazis, Langsdorff requested duty at sea in 1934 but was instead appointed to the Interior Ministry." Nothing about joining the Nazi party.
@xristo702 EXCUSE ME? do you know anything about the end of the war? French troops shooting Germans who tried to surrender, raping German women, Germans raping women and stealing french food, wine, clothing, burning their houses, machine gunning "resistance fighters" France got it in the ASS during the German occupation, and they were far from angels when the tide turned: if anything, the Americans and British were disgusted at their conduct!
This does not surprise me. The winners write history. 93% of the army were Nazis? I don't think so. They fought wholeheartedly for their country and families. They were great soldiers and should be respected by everyone. THE WEHRMACHT WERE NOT NAZIS! QUIT REFERRING TO THEM AS NAZIS!
@WorldsFinestHour Evidence has come to light recently that indicates it was not as rare as once thought. The Brits and Americans essentially allowed ex-Wehrmacht officers to write their own version of their activities during WW2. This was done because it was seen how important Germany was going to be in the new NATO.
@criminalmindgames Another relevant and insightful comment. When your mother feeds you her warm vinegar soup, it's not because she loves you, it's because she thinks you are a douchebag.
Thats awsome of course you dont hear about these stories all everyone want you to know about the german military is the nazis and to most people in their close minded heads all german soldiers were NAZIS and thats not true at all
In America we did lock up the japs but did not exterminate or starve or deny education or take thier property. 2nd generation japs and some first generation where not interned and it was loosely enforced on the eastern seaboard. Unlike Germany who outlawed Jews being eduacated beyond the number ten, and reading beyond that of street signs. Apples and oranges my dear, apples and oranges......cheers:)
much is said that Germans already admitted their crimes and are not admitted its Japanese, but the question is what do Americans have already admitted their crimes (and be analyzed the context of history, who has more crimes than Americans)? the British have already admitted that the various crimes committed?? and the Russians??
@Cleitonfag There are lots of social help , on action by the Brazilian Government. Germany pays debts, but, mantains a suspicious cultural hegemony, and trade marks .Despite being today, a country plenty of foreigners , it got few natural resources. See the Mastricht - Euro orchestration, for example, puting today the blame on PIGS. "Civilization in Europe begin to fall after the fall of Arabic Spain "
@Cleitonfag And what of the Portguese crimes? Did they not introcude slavery to the Anericas? Was Brasil not the last "civilsied" nation to abolish it?
@Javi1984limaperu Exactly. Captain Langsdorff was an honorable man, he evacuated the crews of the vessels he attacked, Scuttled his ship rather than allowing his crew to get slaughtered by the British warships, and was never a devout member of the Nazi party.
Of course the vast majority of the german Wehrmacht did no atrocities and they weren't even part of the nazi-party. They simply had to fulfull their duty and they did their job very well, because it took the whole world to defeat them.
I guess most educated people understand that "whole world" in this case means the most powerful armies in the world, and even a smart ass like you can't deny his fact ;-)
It is such a pity, that German Kriegsmarine Captain Hans Langsdorff committed suicide. He had such a high honorary concept, that like Japanese pilots, he could not bear to survive the military mission he failed to complete. Langsdorff was a man of honour, saving also brave Allied anti-Axis units and persons wherever he could. Some propaganda media will not allow honouring German officers of course. Not even in 2010. But it shows the mutual reconciliation.
All germans that fought in WWII are heros. so are all the Americans. my grandpa fought the japs in the pacific but the japs are not heroes, they are pussy suicidal fishheads
@WackyWildernessMan hundreds of thousands of innocent people were slaughtered by the german army during WW2, we've all seen the pictures of those german concentration camps and you have the nerve to call those men heros, the german army was trying to take over the world at that time and they killed many innocent men,women,and children in extremely violent ways in an attempt to conquer the world and in my book that is not heroic that is barbaric....
@mrhonkee - I think he means those who fought in battlefields, not those who murdered civillians or prisoners. Of course, it also happened that some people were brave in the battlefield, but apart from that they comitted war crimes. No one said criminals cannot be brave (but they cannot be heroes). I think you cannot say "all were heroes" or "all were criminals". Any generalization is wrong.
@OlenkaWagner Captain Langsdorff was no criminal. true, he was in the German navy, but he Rescued the crews of the vessels he sank, and he Scuttled his ship so his crew would not die in a hopeless battle. he had been in the Navy before Hitler came to power, anyway.
@Soundwave3591 - yes, I agree. I have nothing against Captain Langsdorff. However the whole discussion went far beyond the topic shown in the video, on the other hand it is understandable that people discuss the whole context of WW2.
@mrhonkee the German ARMY and NAVY were soldiers doing their jobs, like the American and British soldiers and Sailors. the SS and GESTAPO on the other hand, were the monsters and murderers who ran the camps and murdered the jews. the Navy Had NOTHING to do with the Holocaust. they had their own tasks. Look beyond the Allied Point of View, Yes, the Nazi party did murder innocents, but so did the allies. look up the Bombing of Dresden, the Sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff, and you will see.
@Soundwave3591 I understand what your saying but the fact is hitler was an evil man who wanted to rule the world,now you say the german soldiers were "just doing their jobs" but they knew hitler's plan was going to cause many innocent people to lose their lives and still they chose to follow him and obey his orders, I truly believe that if the president of the united states told the american people he wanted to do what hitler did we as a nation would turn against him and choose peace instead
@mrhonkee the nation that turned firehoses and tear gas on Peaceful protestors who were trying to attain better lives for blacks? a nation where the president needed to send in Paratroopers so 4 black students could go to school? the nation with the largest army navy and air force? no offense, but you're making us better than we are. if what you say were true, we wouldn't be in Iraq or Afghanistan. those wars are absolutely POINTLESS.
Respond to this video... If and what about Japan? Everyone remembers the holocaust, but no one seems to know about the japanese crimes. the conditions in Japanese POW camps were ABOMINABLE, worse than in a Concentration camp. they tested Nerve gasses and chemical weapons on Civilians, and murdered millions in the wars they started as early as 1932.
@Soundwave3591 - that is true, Japanese crimes are relatively little known and even if they ar know often stupid excuses are given about "cultural differences". And unlike in Germany (where all the crimes are admitted), in Japan the official statement is not to admit some of the crimes (e.g. forcing women to prostitution).
@Soundwave3591 Deplorable. My grandfather form Alabama was a guard at Mazinar and the Japanese lived in better conditons than he did prior to the war. He grew of with 14 siblings, no running water, heat, oe electricity or even moeny to pay a poll tax and vote.
@llatimer2 it was the same for a lot of people at that time. my grandfather lived in a shack under a bridge with 5 younger brothers for 9 years before he joined the navy just to get a better standard of living. one of his brothers joined the air corp and got shot down over Germany, and he said even the POW camps were better than where he had been living before the war.
@mrhonkee the US turned a blind eye to Hitler until Pearl harbor. and, as early as 1942, we knew about the camps. And speaking of camps, we had NO PROBLEM locking up INNOCENT Japanese Americans, simply to make them a scapegoat. hmmm...blaming a Specific populace for an issue that has damaged your nation, and locking them up in isolated Camps, robbing them of all their rights? SOUND FAMILIAR!?
People always call the GERMAN soldiers during WW2 for Nazi's and it's pissing me off. Germany had, and still do, the most amazing engineering and tactics. Another great example - Rommel.
@aztaclalz true! My uncles from Vienna fought for their country but were certainly not Nazi's. Grandma hated Hitler & called him the Devil! On his birthday she refused to have the Nazi flag waving from her window. (These were given out before the parade and residents were expected to display them) Grandpa was worried about this of course as denunciation was quite common
@aztaclalz so who killed almost 75% of civilian population in Belarus? Millions in Poland, Serbia, Russia, Ukraine, fuck your revisionist shit ...you want to feel better about yourself because your grandaddy served satan? for every 1 wermacht soldier that was so called honourable there were 30 that beileved Hitllers bs
@Cardan011 You're fully aware of that Russia killed more civilians than Germany during WW2? I am not German, not at all but that doesn't mean I'll sit quiet and listen when people like you, puke out the most ridicoulus crap known to man. Just shut your mouth, quit living in the past. No one cares anymore, got that? You seem to know extremely little of what really went on during WW2. Then again I see that you're a redneck beaten hick from the US who nuked civilians in Japan. So shut up, kid.
@aztaclalz - I think the discussion goes in the direction of comparing the numbers of killed. It is true that Russians killed many civillians, but is it as justification for Germans who also killed civilians? The ones responsible fpr crimes were the leaders who ordered them or created the atmosphere where such crimes were tolerated and those who performed the actions, but not nations. But the discussion about crimes is rather off-topic here, because Hans Langsdorff did not commit any.
@OlenkaWagner That doesn't change the fact how people view Germans due to what happened before. People don't even account what the Russians did, even the Americans did with the 2 nukes. Regardless of they were attacked first at Pearl Harbour, that was a clean and dead on military target. The two nukes weren't...Absolutely not. Eventhough I hate to say it, it was probably for the better that the two nukes were dropped... Since it was pretty much the end of WW2.
@Cardan011 That is not true at all! The Russians massacred Polish (Katyn massacre) They were involved in two other massacres Metgethen,and Nemmersdorf massacre. Look them up! Ukranians and Russians greeted the Germans with flowers because of the treatment that Stalin,nkvd, and the red army gave to them. Russian told little countries in Europe to basically give up there land and only Finland declined and kicked there ass. The Russians were no better.
Langsdorff was a typical german soldier, they werent at all evil murderer like your movies want you to believe. Most of them are produced or financed by jews (shaving rayens private, schindlers list)
@Grenadierer - but there was a movie made by Powell and Pressburger (I think the latter was also a Jew) about the battle of the River Plate and Captain Langsdorff was presented in a very nice (and true) way there...
@OlenkaWagner actually, the Cruiser USS Salem played the Graf Spee in that movie. it's anchored close to my home as a museum. due to a technicality, the US Sailors were not allowed to wear the German Helmets during filming, so you see the "German" sailors in the film all wearing the US Steel Pot Helmet! at the same time, any scenes with the German Flags also had to be filmed else ware due to the same rule.
@Soundwave3591 - very interesting all that you said about filming. It was 1956, so the memories of war were very fresh. Are the rules the same now (about not allowing foreign symbols even for the sake of a film)? Today there wouldn be any problem with filming, because there would be a computer animation.
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ya he may have saved people but he was trying to win a war for a nazi piece of trash there for hes just as guilty as the rest of those nazi german fucks
Langsdorff was a cpt. in the german navy and never was a member of the nazi party. He always refused to raise his arm. (The Nazi salutation) for only this he could have sent to prison at that time. He tried his best as a soldier to prevent damage. Every german who was against the Nazis was sent to conc.- camp. I would have wanted to watch YOU behave in this totalitay system. But of course you will be offering resistance and finally be shot by SS or military police as a real hero
@wollexxxx - Basically agree, however I have read that in Kriegsmarine an ordinary salute (rather than raising the arm in a "Roman salute) was acceptable, so in this case he did not risk much. But I agree about the rest.
Many German soldiers, sailors, & airmen fought honorably for their country. They weren't Nazis, & committed no atrocities. I don't know why some are so surprised @this.
Not quite...the majority was not evil nor nazis. As the war proceeded almost everyone was able the join the SS. They lowered their requirements drastically to lure more and more people into the army...
Basti, I partially agree with you, of course German solders fought for their fatherland and should be respected, but I would argue that the cause for the war was wrong and this must not be forgotten. I wouldn't also idealize all the Wermacht soldiers, because they also committed war crimes (I know - in much smaller scale than SS and the Allies also committed war crimes). I am far from seing all the German soldiers as villains, but also far from idealizing them. But I like Cpt. Langsdorff ;)
@Basti6814 Historically, the country has been dominated by Whites. The heaviest burdens of racism in the country have historically fallen upon Native Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, Latin Americans, American Jews, Irish Americans and some other immigrant groups and their descendants.
@Basti6814 Major racially structured institutions include slavery, Native American reservations, segregation, residential schools (for Native Americans), internment camps,[1] and affirmative action. Racial stratification has occurred in employment, housing, education and government
@Basti6814 Hitler wasn't an idiot. He was doing what he did for his country. He felt the jews were responsible for the hard times and he felt that the white race was superior to all others, which was what many even in the U.S. thought at the time.
PatriotsFan, it is true that in those times the views of racial supremacy were more acceptable than now, but there is a difference between discrimination, which is also unacceptable, but not as bad as physical elimination. Extermination of the whole group (Jews, Roma) was something that could not be excused in any way. No even mittigating circumstances for this!
@PatriotsFanX9 in an embarrassing turn of events, Hitler actually was partially inspired by how the US effectively Wiped out the Native American populations. he said that had we not been "polluted" by Jews, we would be a Worthy Nation. For shame. we aren't admitting our own crimes while calling the Nazi's out on theirs.
@Soundwave3591 - I'm not surprised either, however I've seen Nazi flags in my city (for the film), but I know people who remembered the war felt uneasy, even if they knew the film was being made. Of course a ship is something even more particular, so I understand the caution.
@Basti6814 the USSR sank the German liner Wilhelm Gustloff in 1945, with over 2000 lives list, mostly refugees and Jews in transit back to Germany. the Kriegsmarine surface fleet got more of a workout in the last year of the war than in the 5 years preceding it.
@OlenkaWagner to be fair, didn't we also commit crimes? shooting POW's out of revenge? interning Japanese Americans out of Paranoia? Firebombing cities with no military targets? turning a blind eye to the Soviet crimes in the east? giving Stalin all of Eastern Europe to Pacify him, giving no say tot he peoples living there?
"the german soldiers figth for the fatherland like the other Nations."
Have they? You mean that starting the 2nd world war was a fight for the fatherland? Or mass executions of civilians in Poland? Or invasion of Benelux and France?
If consider it fight for a fatherland, do not be surprised, that some day there somebody has bombed german cities. Think, that they have fought for theirs fatherlands.
@Gbdukk after the west Screwed Germany in the Treaty of Versailles? after we stripped their infrastructure, robbed their resources, tore away their dignity and sense of security? after we Sent them into a depression on Par, if not worse, than what was happening in the US? if Hitler had been An American and promised the same things, admit it, we would have followed him too.
@KAIROA Ja, sie haben Recht. But, I believe that, in recent years, there is more of a feeling of recognition for their sacrifice, in Germany, and here in the States, as well.
true words... and I believed that shit as I was small and loved america. now I hate the majority for telling all those lies and propaganda. The Holocaust was horrible. but the British empire killed millions of more innocent lifes, America did its genocide on the Indians, which were even much much higher, Soviets had its 20-40 millions innocent deaths under stalin alone, Eisenhower, Churchill, the Atom Bombs on an already beaten country..... and so on, and so on. just examples.
@KAIROA if you are interested, you should read about the codex of the wehrmacht... its remarkable. I know of alot of heroic and kind stories now, there are alot, since I have become awake, which should all always come from trustable sources of course and not be counter propaganda. all the hatred, along with the dues we still pay for something happening generations before, done from a small minority and THEN seeing Stupid Hollywood movies like Inglorious Basterds makes my own hatered grow.
0000000A0000.....Agree with you all the way. But the "new administration"in Germany are trying very hard, to make them feel guilty from her past, in others words, the same pattern here in USA. to make us feel ashamed, for past mistakes.
@HorstKowalczik, Ja, sie haben Recht, wann Sie sagen "Ask people in Corea, if they would prefer to live in the North or in the South?" Oder, besser noch, fragen sie einen frühere Ostdeutscher.
You're right when you say "Ask people in Corea, if they would prefer to live in the North or in the South?" Better yet, ask a former East German.
@KAIROA, Ich meinte nicht daß alle Geschichte über dem Krieg in den Staadten, Kanada und Britain ist wahr. Ich meinte nur daß viele Leute hier wißen daß "the bombing of Dresden was not strategically justified, but was an act of revenge." Das, wenigstens, ist richtig bericht hier.
Well History Channel may say anything they want, as a matter of fact they use diversion of history many times.
As fas as I know I don't see honesty. Every time you read anything concerning the 2d. WW. they are far from reality. This is the best way to indoctrinate new generations.
A good author with credibility means a lot in a nice book.
Fröhliche Weihnachten und ein glückliches Neues Jahr!
@KAIROA, thank you for your Christmas and New Year's wishes as well. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to everyone as well.
As far as your comment is concerned, I think things change slowly. Just after the war it was shown a a good vs evil conflict, but now things are changing. On the other hand it should be remembered who started the war and what for. But no crime, no injustice, regardless who committed it could be justfied.
Good Lord, could this idiot reporter have taken a few moments to find out how to pronounce "Langsdorf," "Graf Spee" and "Nazi?" When I was being paid to read news on broadcast media, I felt it was my responsibility.
Just think, if your a person that works at a munitions plant, does that make you liable to recieve the blame for thousands of dead from your manufactured bullets?
All the people who are saying how could somebody name something after an enemy of war? Ask Steven Spielberg! Schindler's list was a movie of a sympathetic Nazi German businessman, for those who have not seen it, and Spielberg is Jewish to boot! Now that i believe shows that one can be on the enemies side, but still be considered a decent man for his acts against atrocities.
@bushmen123 - I am not saying "how could somebody...", I am just saying it is not usual - and you must admit it is not. A movie is a slightly different thing, naming a street is different. Schindler's story was different, too. He was not involved in military actions and he was saving human life. Langsdorff was rather sparing than saving human life. Nevertheless, as I said before, after regarding all the arguments I find the name acceptable.
@OlenkaWagner I wasn't pointing my statement to you. However i agree the circumstance was slightly different,,in the context that Schindler was not personally involved in combat,but he was a full fledged Nazi party member, and believed in their cause,and maybe was not fighting with a rifle but he was using jews to his advantage to further the reich's cause, by running munitions plants. To me sparing lives is very similar to saving, they didn't die that's good enough in my book.
OK, I know it was not to me, but I jut tried to understand those who have some objections, especially if they do not know much about Cpt. Langsdorff. Yes sparing is similar to saving. Saving is more active, sparing is rather passive, but sometimes sparing puts someone in greater risk than saving. On the other hand if someone spares a person it is often a consequence of his action he shouldn't have taken in the first place.
On the contrary, I was taught in high school history class in America that the bombing of Dresden was an act of revenge, not a strategic necessity. This is common knowledge among educated Amis and Brits. There was no effort to hide this.
KAIROA - I agree that communism is as evil as nazism. Nazism was defeated and no serious politicians or intellectuals would support nazism. Communism in most (unfortunately not all) countries collapsed on its own. Unfortunately too many intellectuals and politicians would admit their communist sympathies or at least say that the idea was not bad, etc. Very sad. Both systems were totalitarian and should be treated in the same way.
you support capitalism, and i laught at that shit of prehistoric, and pathetic systema, when you create money out of nothing, FUCK CAPITALISM! SMASH CAPITALISM! HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!
@KAIROA: You wrote, "Nobody knows this Official German, because the press never mention..."
Recently, a program on The History Channel said the bombing of Dresden was retribution for an untentional (unbeknownst to the allies) German bombing of a residential area. The media are still covering it truthfully today.
The story of the bombing of Dresden is widely known among the educated populations of the former Allies.
Your blithe falsehood is an insult to an honest journalist.
i am german and we germans today have nothing to do with the shit that hapenned in ww2
hitler was austrian, not german...and the public didnt know that hitler and the nazis are killing millions of jews during the war
what would you think what the nazis had done to someone who would stand up and say that its wrong to kill the jews....the nazis would have killed this person, even if he is a german...
every german was just scared to to get killed by the nazis...
Skiegiek, this is always a problem with countries of totalitarian authority. To which extent are citizens responsible for their governments? Of course, Hitler must have had popular support, otherwise he would have never got to power. But even if a large number of Germans supported Hitler, still it was not the whole nation, so the nation could not be blamed as such. It is even more absurd to blame contemporary Germans for WW2.
And going back to the strict topic - my question to people from Germany: Is Cpt. Hans Langsdorff known in Germany? I mean general public of course, not historians or people having special interest in WW2 or naval history or alike?
I've read all the comments once again and most of them are loaded with negative emotions as if WW2 was still going on. Few comments refer directly to the fact of naming the street after capitan Langsdorff. I am from Poland and I know that in Poland it would be impossible to name anything after the enemy from WW2. So when I told this other people about that they were surprised and asked "what did he do?" (Langsdorff is almost unknown in Poland). TBC...
Cont.... When I told them the whole story some people were not so against any more and some were still unconvinced saying that obeying international conventions (saving the crew from mechant ships before sinking those ships) was something that should be a standard thing and not the reason to honor people in a special way for that. Well, I think that in a situation when "standard" things stop being standard it is good to honor people doing them.
and u know so much, with a name like lord of the dance...
im just so happy that the jews will never let the holocaust be forgotten.
all the poeple on commenting on this video are nazi lovers...
im so happy that u fkn nazi kunts didnt have enough time to destroy auszwich and treblinka....im so happy that there are jew nazi hunters looking for all those nazi scum that got away...
im so happy that history has recorded this as the german solution...lest the world never forget what the GERMANS DID
"all the poeple on commenting on this video are nazi lovers..." - oh, what a conclusion! Technically speaking that would mean that you are a Nazi lover, because you are commenting on this video! ;) Now seriously, I don't like any generalizations. Not all Germans were Nazists. Nazism regarded some races superior and some inferior, but blaming the whole nation for the action of individuals follows the same logic. BTW. I live in Krakow.
Why did this video become a place for exchanging insults. You can explain what you do not like about something someone else wrote, but calling someone "stupid idiot" can only make other people think you have no arguments.
The bestial behaviour of polish animals against german people after WWs I and II turns pale the bloody lies about germans. They used to rape even babies and after that they crucified them or burned them alive. That lasted 10 years after war end. And they still want to be considered as victims. Where the hell was god at that time? Where the hell is he now?
I know that Soviets were guilty of massive rapes on German women after WW2. I haven't heard on any major attrocities during or after WW1. Some attrocites did occur after WW2 and also some Polish people can be blamed, but this does not justify any generalizations (saying "polish animals") or alike. But the topic of the video is different. So maybe we will talk about Ajax or Cpt. Langsdorff? We much drifted away.
P19S48, no one says that anything should be forgotten. I agree that this is not a usual thing to name a street after an enemy, but in this context it looks acceptable.
How do you count these 18 days? The capital city of Warsaw stood for a month. Last organized groups surreded or dispersed only in the first days of October. I don't think there is much point in raising emotions about the conflict that ended 65 years ago. Oh... I have forgotten - No conflict ever ended on the YT ;)
on September 17 was the mass of the Polish army exterminated and on September 18 fled the Polish Government to Romania! Illegal Partizans and illegal declaration of Civil towns too warzone is barbarian, for civilist and the Soldiers who bcome through this murders also want Poland before a Border till Oder their Parol was from Stettin till Riga!
"Illegal Partizans and illegal declaration of Civil towns" - what about starting the war by Germany? Was this decision legal? There was no even declaration of war.
I'm happy this happened. Also surprized the lefties here in Canada did not protest this. Well done Ajax!
burnoutking1971 5 days ago
Im from Ajax
Algonquin81 2 months ago
Not all germans exactly loved hitler or the nazi's, they were fighting for their country just like the americans, japanese, etc. This is what we call nationalism. Because of this nationalism the nazis were able to do unspeakable things, just like every other country was, and be able to get away with it.
64notorious 7 months ago 2
Many if not most German soldiers of the Wehrmacht were fighting for Germany not the Nazis.
lifelessperson1993 8 months ago
i´m sick of nazi comments !!!!
MrBurnsist 8 months ago
This warms my heart...good to know that Canadians are not like stupid, fucking americans
Apichapsaroo 11 months ago
@Apichapsaroo Lol what a ignorant fucking.....what are you? probably a brit since the hostility and stupidty
64notorious 7 months ago
again facts are twisted, the Graf Spee was only lightly damaged before Langsdorff scuttled the ship
germaniajim 11 months ago
@germaniajim - Badly or slightly? Anyway the ship could not continue the voyage and had to be repaired...
OlenkaWagner 11 months ago
@OlenkaWagner slightly, its sea plane catapult was comprimised and its propulsion was not affected
germaniajim 11 months ago
saving drowning americans you shame the fatherland
Eltzic9 1 year ago
@Eltzic9 There were good people on both sides... but mainly on German side!
kozioff 1 year ago
Lol she said Nat-zee.
HoLOLcaust 1 year ago
i live in Germany and the man is ignorant if he really believes that the commander of the naval ship was NOT a member of the Nazi party...he would not have gotten that high rank in the 3rd Reich to command a battle ship. just woulnt happen. what a fool. historian? he should check out his sources first.
Pisces31660 1 year ago
@Pisces31660 - I don't know if it was required to join the Nazi party. From Wikipedia: "in April 1930 he was promoted to Lieutenant Commander. In 1931 he was recalled to Berlin as his administrative abilities were well-known and appreciated. Following the coming to power of the Nazis, Langsdorff requested duty at sea in 1934 but was instead appointed to the Interior Ministry." Nothing about joining the Nazi party.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
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xristo702 1 year ago
@xristo702 that is a freaking lie
lovegameme1 1 year ago
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xristo702 1 year ago
@lovegameme1
I was never there so how could I know?
I've heard my stories from others and I'm sure you have yours.
In no way am I excusing the Germans. I'm only saying that with power, any person, faction or country has the capacity for evil.
xristo702 1 year ago
@xristo702 EXCUSE ME? do you know anything about the end of the war? French troops shooting Germans who tried to surrender, raping German women, Germans raping women and stealing french food, wine, clothing, burning their houses, machine gunning "resistance fighters" France got it in the ASS during the German occupation, and they were far from angels when the tide turned: if anything, the Americans and British were disgusted at their conduct!
Soundwave3591 9 months ago
@Soundwave3591
Woah that comment is still up there?
I need to delete that shit and be done with it.
xristo702 9 months ago
This does not surprise me. The winners write history. 93% of the army were Nazis? I don't think so. They fought wholeheartedly for their country and families. They were great soldiers and should be respected by everyone. THE WEHRMACHT WERE NOT NAZIS! QUIT REFERRING TO THEM AS NAZIS!
WorldsFinestHour 1 year ago 5
@WorldsFinestHour Bear in mind that the Wehrmacht actively engaged in the same activities (massacres, Jewish extermination, etc...) as the SS.
cf80to01 1 year ago
@cf80to01 But as you probably know, this was on very rare occasions.
WorldsFinestHour 1 year ago
@WorldsFinestHour Evidence has come to light recently that indicates it was not as rare as once thought. The Brits and Americans essentially allowed ex-Wehrmacht officers to write their own version of their activities during WW2. This was done because it was seen how important Germany was going to be in the new NATO.
cf80to01 11 months ago
@cf80to01 shut the fuck up screw the jews anyway and fuck you
criminalmindgames 9 months ago
@criminalmindgames Another relevant and insightful comment. When your mother feeds you her warm vinegar soup, it's not because she loves you, it's because she thinks you are a douchebag.
cf80to01 9 months ago
In the last years of WWII most German officers were nazis, as the regime got rid off all non-nazi officers, when the tides turned against Germany.
NKA23 2 months ago
Thats awsome of course you dont hear about these stories all everyone want you to know about the german military is the nazis and to most people in their close minded heads all german soldiers were NAZIS and thats not true at all
criminalmindgames 1 year ago
A true German, im glad some people see what real germans are like..........
Howie262 1 year ago 20
@Howie262 yes most germans are NOT nazi
Germtalia 6 months ago
war is hell...matters little the color of uniforms.
mann8942 1 year ago 3
In America we did lock up the japs but did not exterminate or starve or deny education or take thier property. 2nd generation japs and some first generation where not interned and it was loosely enforced on the eastern seaboard. Unlike Germany who outlawed Jews being eduacated beyond the number ten, and reading beyond that of street signs. Apples and oranges my dear, apples and oranges......cheers:)
Movegas1 1 year ago
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much is said that Germans already admitted their crimes and are not admitted its Japanese, but the question is what do Americans have already admitted their crimes (and be analyzed the context of history, who has more crimes than Americans)? the British have already admitted that the various crimes committed?? and the Russians??
Greetings from Brazil !!!!!
rosafagundes 1 year ago
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Cleitonfag 1 year ago
@Cleitonfag There are lots of social help , on action by the Brazilian Government. Germany pays debts, but, mantains a suspicious cultural hegemony, and trade marks .Despite being today, a country plenty of foreigners , it got few natural resources. See the Mastricht - Euro orchestration, for example, puting today the blame on PIGS. "Civilization in Europe begin to fall after the fall of Arabic Spain "
-Garcia Lorca.
miguelmouta 1 year ago
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Cleitonfag 1 year ago
@Cleitonfag And what of the Portguese crimes? Did they not introcude slavery to the Anericas? Was Brasil not the last "civilsied" nation to abolish it?
llatimer2 1 year ago
yeah some german soldiers were honorably, that is true.. when you are a good soldier you know it..
Javi1984limaperu 1 year ago
@Javi1984limaperu Exactly. Captain Langsdorff was an honorable man, he evacuated the crews of the vessels he attacked, Scuttled his ship rather than allowing his crew to get slaughtered by the British warships, and was never a devout member of the Nazi party.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago 4
Well this is why I like the americans, they know honor.
WSAT1945 1 year ago
Of course the vast majority of the german Wehrmacht did no atrocities and they weren't even part of the nazi-party. They simply had to fulfull their duty and they did their job very well, because it took the whole world to defeat them.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas not really, only like 20 countries out of 187+
spendizzzle 1 year ago
@spendizzzle
I guess most educated people understand that "whole world" in this case means the most powerful armies in the world, and even a smart ass like you can't deny his fact ;-)
Lintflas 1 year ago
stupid americans
Millions of germans fought in this war. There is no question if they stood on teh right or on the wrong side.
Ickerbocker 1 year ago
It is such a pity, that German Kriegsmarine Captain Hans Langsdorff committed suicide. He had such a high honorary concept, that like Japanese pilots, he could not bear to survive the military mission he failed to complete. Langsdorff was a man of honour, saving also brave Allied anti-Axis units and persons wherever he could. Some propaganda media will not allow honouring German officers of course. Not even in 2010. But it shows the mutual reconciliation.
IustitiaPax 1 year ago
Like this Video.
Shows that These People can See that Beeing German is Not the Same like beeing a Nazi.
Many German soldiers were just normal Men. Like you and me. But they were fighting for the wrong Side.
@mrhonkee the German Army has nothing to with the Camps! These were Special People who were Part of the SS.
Most germans didn't Even Know about the Camps!
riesenurschreimann 1 year ago
GOOD ON YA !!!
SuperPeterpig 1 year ago
All germans that fought in WWII are heros. so are all the Americans. my grandpa fought the japs in the pacific but the japs are not heroes, they are pussy suicidal fishheads
WackyWildernessMan 1 year ago
@WackyWildernessMan hundreds of thousands of innocent people were slaughtered by the german army during WW2, we've all seen the pictures of those german concentration camps and you have the nerve to call those men heros, the german army was trying to take over the world at that time and they killed many innocent men,women,and children in extremely violent ways in an attempt to conquer the world and in my book that is not heroic that is barbaric....
mrhonkee 1 year ago
@mrhonkee - I think he means those who fought in battlefields, not those who murdered civillians or prisoners. Of course, it also happened that some people were brave in the battlefield, but apart from that they comitted war crimes. No one said criminals cannot be brave (but they cannot be heroes). I think you cannot say "all were heroes" or "all were criminals". Any generalization is wrong.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Captain Langsdorff was no criminal. true, he was in the German navy, but he Rescued the crews of the vessels he sank, and he Scuttled his ship so his crew would not die in a hopeless battle. he had been in the Navy before Hitler came to power, anyway.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago 2
@Soundwave3591 - yes, I agree. I have nothing against Captain Langsdorff. However the whole discussion went far beyond the topic shown in the video, on the other hand it is understandable that people discuss the whole context of WW2.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@mrhonkee the German ARMY and NAVY were soldiers doing their jobs, like the American and British soldiers and Sailors. the SS and GESTAPO on the other hand, were the monsters and murderers who ran the camps and murdered the jews. the Navy Had NOTHING to do with the Holocaust. they had their own tasks. Look beyond the Allied Point of View, Yes, the Nazi party did murder innocents, but so did the allies. look up the Bombing of Dresden, the Sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff, and you will see.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
@Soundwave3591 I understand what your saying but the fact is hitler was an evil man who wanted to rule the world,now you say the german soldiers were "just doing their jobs" but they knew hitler's plan was going to cause many innocent people to lose their lives and still they chose to follow him and obey his orders, I truly believe that if the president of the united states told the american people he wanted to do what hitler did we as a nation would turn against him and choose peace instead
mrhonkee 1 year ago
@mrhonkee the nation that turned firehoses and tear gas on Peaceful protestors who were trying to attain better lives for blacks? a nation where the president needed to send in Paratroopers so 4 black students could go to school? the nation with the largest army navy and air force? no offense, but you're making us better than we are. if what you say were true, we wouldn't be in Iraq or Afghanistan. those wars are absolutely POINTLESS.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
Respond to this video... If and what about Japan? Everyone remembers the holocaust, but no one seems to know about the japanese crimes. the conditions in Japanese POW camps were ABOMINABLE, worse than in a Concentration camp. they tested Nerve gasses and chemical weapons on Civilians, and murdered millions in the wars they started as early as 1932.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
@Soundwave3591 - that is true, Japanese crimes are relatively little known and even if they ar know often stupid excuses are given about "cultural differences". And unlike in Germany (where all the crimes are admitted), in Japan the official statement is not to admit some of the crimes (e.g. forcing women to prostitution).
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago 2
@Soundwave3591 Deplorable. My grandfather form Alabama was a guard at Mazinar and the Japanese lived in better conditons than he did prior to the war. He grew of with 14 siblings, no running water, heat, oe electricity or even moeny to pay a poll tax and vote.
llatimer2 1 year ago
@llatimer2 it was the same for a lot of people at that time. my grandfather lived in a shack under a bridge with 5 younger brothers for 9 years before he joined the navy just to get a better standard of living. one of his brothers joined the air corp and got shot down over Germany, and he said even the POW camps were better than where he had been living before the war.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
@mrhonkee the US turned a blind eye to Hitler until Pearl harbor. and, as early as 1942, we knew about the camps. And speaking of camps, we had NO PROBLEM locking up INNOCENT Japanese Americans, simply to make them a scapegoat. hmmm...blaming a Specific populace for an issue that has damaged your nation, and locking them up in isolated Camps, robbing them of all their rights? SOUND FAMILIAR!?
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
I Don't Know...
MapleBalls 1 year ago
I hate how they say NATZI GOD DAMN SHUT THE FUCK UP JUST SAY GERMANY
deathwing98 1 year ago 2
People always call the GERMAN soldiers during WW2 for Nazi's and it's pissing me off. Germany had, and still do, the most amazing engineering and tactics. Another great example - Rommel.
aztaclalz 1 year ago 71
@aztaclalz true! My uncles from Vienna fought for their country but were certainly not Nazi's. Grandma hated Hitler & called him the Devil! On his birthday she refused to have the Nazi flag waving from her window. (These were given out before the parade and residents were expected to display them) Grandpa was worried about this of course as denunciation was quite common
Broadsword255 1 year ago
@aztaclalz so who killed almost 75% of civilian population in Belarus? Millions in Poland, Serbia, Russia, Ukraine, fuck your revisionist shit ...you want to feel better about yourself because your grandaddy served satan? for every 1 wermacht soldier that was so called honourable there were 30 that beileved Hitllers bs
Cardan011 1 year ago
@Cardan011 You're fully aware of that Russia killed more civilians than Germany during WW2? I am not German, not at all but that doesn't mean I'll sit quiet and listen when people like you, puke out the most ridicoulus crap known to man. Just shut your mouth, quit living in the past. No one cares anymore, got that? You seem to know extremely little of what really went on during WW2. Then again I see that you're a redneck beaten hick from the US who nuked civilians in Japan. So shut up, kid.
aztaclalz 1 year ago
@aztaclalz - I think the discussion goes in the direction of comparing the numbers of killed. It is true that Russians killed many civillians, but is it as justification for Germans who also killed civilians? The ones responsible fpr crimes were the leaders who ordered them or created the atmosphere where such crimes were tolerated and those who performed the actions, but not nations. But the discussion about crimes is rather off-topic here, because Hans Langsdorff did not commit any.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago 3
@OlenkaWagner That doesn't change the fact how people view Germans due to what happened before. People don't even account what the Russians did, even the Americans did with the 2 nukes. Regardless of they were attacked first at Pearl Harbour, that was a clean and dead on military target. The two nukes weren't...Absolutely not. Eventhough I hate to say it, it was probably for the better that the two nukes were dropped... Since it was pretty much the end of WW2.
aztaclalz 1 year ago
@Cardan011 That is not true at all! The Russians massacred Polish (Katyn massacre) They were involved in two other massacres Metgethen,and Nemmersdorf massacre. Look them up! Ukranians and Russians greeted the Germans with flowers because of the treatment that Stalin,nkvd, and the red army gave to them. Russian told little countries in Europe to basically give up there land and only Finland declined and kicked there ass. The Russians were no better.
WorldsFinestHour 1 year ago 3
@aztaclalz The media my friend is what conveys that message. The media in the U.S. is a very powerful tool.
RPete100 1 year ago
@aztaclalz i know there is a difference than nazis and german soilders
twentyfoursevenmix 8 months ago
@aztaclalz i know there is a difference than nazis and german soilders i mean nazis could be say amaricans
twentyfoursevenmix 8 months ago
"Nazi Battleship" Oh my, it was a German Marine Battleship. But the N-word in your ass, CBC. -.-
IlluminationGlobal 1 year ago 4
Langsdorff was a typical german soldier, they werent at all evil murderer like your movies want you to believe. Most of them are produced or financed by jews (shaving rayens private, schindlers list)
Grenadierer 1 year ago 6
@Grenadierer - but there was a movie made by Powell and Pressburger (I think the latter was also a Jew) about the battle of the River Plate and Captain Langsdorff was presented in a very nice (and true) way there...
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner actually, the Cruiser USS Salem played the Graf Spee in that movie. it's anchored close to my home as a museum. due to a technicality, the US Sailors were not allowed to wear the German Helmets during filming, so you see the "German" sailors in the film all wearing the US Steel Pot Helmet! at the same time, any scenes with the German Flags also had to be filmed else ware due to the same rule.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
@Soundwave3591 - very interesting all that you said about filming. It was 1956, so the memories of war were very fresh. Are the rules the same now (about not allowing foreign symbols even for the sake of a film)? Today there wouldn be any problem with filming, because there would be a computer animation.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner while the rules are probably not as strict, i doubt any self-respecting naval officer would allow a nazi flag to fly over his ship.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
@Grenadierer , nazi prick
nomadnametab 1 year ago
Typical Canadians,
Complete losers!
jagerhardin 1 year ago
@jagerhardin, could you be more specific? What exactly do you mean by saying "losers"?
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
Imperium Europa:
The Book that changed the world.
Amazon Books
NormanLowell 1 year ago
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ya he may have saved people but he was trying to win a war for a nazi piece of trash there for hes just as guilty as the rest of those nazi german fucks
MrAirsoft34 1 year ago
@MrAirsoft34 burn in hell and shut up retard. Your the same shit like a real dirty Nazi
Decernent 1 year ago
@MrAirsoft34
Langsdorff was a cpt. in the german navy and never was a member of the nazi party. He always refused to raise his arm. (The Nazi salutation) for only this he could have sent to prison at that time. He tried his best as a soldier to prevent damage. Every german who was against the Nazis was sent to conc.- camp. I would have wanted to watch YOU behave in this totalitay system. But of course you will be offering resistance and finally be shot by SS or military police as a real hero
wollexxxx 1 year ago
@wollexxxx - Basically agree, however I have read that in Kriegsmarine an ordinary salute (rather than raising the arm in a "Roman salute) was acceptable, so in this case he did not risk much. But I agree about the rest.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
Kapitän zur See Hans Langsdorf war ein Held...
Im gebürt Ehre
Basti6814 1 year ago 3
Many German soldiers, sailors, & airmen fought honorably for their country. They weren't Nazis, & committed no atrocities. I don't know why some are so surprised @this.
neomuttley 2 years ago 76
@neomuttley exactly. The SS were the evil ones.
thatgreggguy 1 year ago
@thatgreggguy After 1943 conscripts where also drafted into the SS, before that it was a voluntary force.
guitigefilmpjes 1 year ago
@thatgreggguy
Not quite...the majority was not evil nor nazis. As the war proceeded almost everyone was able the join the SS. They lowered their requirements drastically to lure more and more people into the army...
Beakle 1 year ago
Ich finde es gut!
the german soldiers figth for the fatherland like the other Nations.
They all are heroes...
only the SS were Nazis !
Basti6814 2 years ago 2
Basti, I partially agree with you, of course German solders fought for their fatherland and should be respected, but I would argue that the cause for the war was wrong and this must not be forgotten. I wouldn't also idealize all the Wermacht soldiers, because they also committed war crimes (I know - in much smaller scale than SS and the Allies also committed war crimes). I am far from seing all the German soldiers as villains, but also far from idealizing them. But I like Cpt. Langsdorff ;)
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
@OlenkaWagner
yes this is true..
but the USA UK and the UdSSR also do warcrimes
I say only Dresden, Hamburg and Berlin.
every Nation have made mistakes ( The Germans and the UdSSR more than the USA)
Hitler was an insane idiot.. Thats the reason for the war.
But now we are allied and i hope for ever...
greets
Basti6814 2 years ago
@Basti6814 - yes, you are right - we are allied now.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
@Basti6814 Historically, the country has been dominated by Whites. The heaviest burdens of racism in the country have historically fallen upon Native Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, Latin Americans, American Jews, Irish Americans and some other immigrant groups and their descendants.
ozeangruen 1 year ago
@Basti6814 "every Nation have made mistakes ( The Germans and the UdSSR more than the USA)" I will reminde you that 20 years after WW2 the
Racism in the United States has been a major issue since the colonial era.
ozeangruen 1 year ago
@ozeangruen the USSR actually used the racism as another argument against Democracy.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
@Basti6814 Major racially structured institutions include slavery, Native American reservations, segregation, residential schools (for Native Americans), internment camps,[1] and affirmative action. Racial stratification has occurred in employment, housing, education and government
ozeangruen 1 year ago
@Basti6814 Hitler wasn't an idiot. He was doing what he did for his country. He felt the jews were responsible for the hard times and he felt that the white race was superior to all others, which was what many even in the U.S. thought at the time.
PatriotsFanX9 1 year ago
@PatriotsFanX9 Jedem das seine.
Basti6814 1 year ago
PatriotsFan, it is true that in those times the views of racial supremacy were more acceptable than now, but there is a difference between discrimination, which is also unacceptable, but not as bad as physical elimination. Extermination of the whole group (Jews, Roma) was something that could not be excused in any way. No even mittigating circumstances for this!
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@PatriotsFanX9 in an embarrassing turn of events, Hitler actually was partially inspired by how the US effectively Wiped out the Native American populations. he said that had we not been "polluted" by Jews, we would be a Worthy Nation. For shame. we aren't admitting our own crimes while calling the Nazi's out on theirs.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
@Soundwave3591 I never looked at it that way.
PatriotsFanX9 1 year ago
@Soundwave3591 - There was also a eugenics programme in US and some other countries.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner i'm not surprised.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
@Soundwave3591 - I'm not surprised either, however I've seen Nazi flags in my city (for the film), but I know people who remembered the war felt uneasy, even if they knew the film was being made. Of course a ship is something even more particular, so I understand the caution.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@Basti6814 the USSR sank the German liner Wilhelm Gustloff in 1945, with over 2000 lives list, mostly refugees and Jews in transit back to Germany. the Kriegsmarine surface fleet got more of a workout in the last year of the war than in the 5 years preceding it.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner I agree with you.
ozeangruen 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner to be fair, didn't we also commit crimes? shooting POW's out of revenge? interning Japanese Americans out of Paranoia? Firebombing cities with no military targets? turning a blind eye to the Soviet crimes in the east? giving Stalin all of Eastern Europe to Pacify him, giving no say tot he peoples living there?
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
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"the german soldiers figth for the fatherland like the other Nations."
Have they? You mean that starting the 2nd world war was a fight for the fatherland? Or mass executions of civilians in Poland? Or invasion of Benelux and France?
If consider it fight for a fatherland, do not be surprised, that some day there somebody has bombed german cities. Think, that they have fought for theirs fatherlands.
"only the SS were Nazis"
Who voted for Hitler in 1933? Nazi minority?
Gbdukk 2 years ago
@Gbdukk after the west Screwed Germany in the Treaty of Versailles? after we stripped their infrastructure, robbed their resources, tore away their dignity and sense of security? after we Sent them into a depression on Par, if not worse, than what was happening in the US? if Hitler had been An American and promised the same things, admit it, we would have followed him too.
Soundwave3591 1 year ago
Gral Patton was right all along...after all he knew he fought the wrong enemy. He declare so in the book " Last days of Patton"by Ladislas Farago.
Very difficult to find, sometimes, but if anyone is interested, you could find it.
KAIROA 2 years ago
He was a navy officer not a nazi ..friggen comi left wing trash , he saved people didnt kill them , god I hate left wingers
scotchie69 2 years ago 2
But no one says he was a nazi. Just the woman announcing news said he "fought for Nazi Germany", which technically speaking is correct.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
@scotchie69
all Germans of that time were Nazis. Including this swine Langsdorf
waffenlandser 2 years ago
@waffenlandser all germans in the 2ww were nazis ???? HÄÄÄ.. nooo 2/3 was nazis.. but not all..
5partan110 2 years ago
if it is a German Soldier from WW2 it is a Nazisoldier and if it was a famous plane
like the Ho-229 its the Nazi stealth fighter
I think News are selling better if you set up that word "Nazi" before.
ozeangruen 2 years ago
There is a very big campaign, to ignore the sacrifices, of German soldiers. As far as I know, they just fought for fatherland, Germany.
Justice for all....thát's my motto.
KAIROA 2 years ago
@KAIROA Ja, sie haben Recht. But, I believe that, in recent years, there is more of a feeling of recognition for their sacrifice, in Germany, and here in the States, as well.
allenjmsmith 2 years ago 3
true words... and I believed that shit as I was small and loved america. now I hate the majority for telling all those lies and propaganda. The Holocaust was horrible. but the British empire killed millions of more innocent lifes, America did its genocide on the Indians, which were even much much higher, Soviets had its 20-40 millions innocent deaths under stalin alone, Eisenhower, Churchill, the Atom Bombs on an already beaten country..... and so on, and so on. just examples.
000000AEA000000 2 years ago
@KAIROA if you are interested, you should read about the codex of the wehrmacht... its remarkable. I know of alot of heroic and kind stories now, there are alot, since I have become awake, which should all always come from trustable sources of course and not be counter propaganda. all the hatred, along with the dues we still pay for something happening generations before, done from a small minority and THEN seeing Stupid Hollywood movies like Inglorious Basterds makes my own hatered grow.
000000AEA000000 2 years ago
0000000A0000.....Agree with you all the way. But the "new administration"in Germany are trying very hard, to make them feel guilty from her past, in others words, the same pattern here in USA. to make us feel ashamed, for past mistakes.
KAIROA 2 years ago
@OlenkaWagner, ja, das stimmt. Ich bin Amerikaner, und ich denke auch, Capt. Langsdorf war ein guter man. Du und die Leute in Ajax haben recht.
allenjmsmith 2 years ago
@allenjmsmith Ah, ja, und frohe Weinachten, und guten Rutsch, von Louisiana.
allenjmsmith 2 years ago
@HorstKowalczik, Ja, sie haben Recht, wann Sie sagen "Ask people in Corea, if they would prefer to live in the North or in the South?" Oder, besser noch, fragen sie einen frühere Ostdeutscher.
You're right when you say "Ask people in Corea, if they would prefer to live in the North or in the South?" Better yet, ask a former East German.
allenjmsmith 2 years ago
@KAIROA, Ich meinte nicht daß alle Geschichte über dem Krieg in den Staadten, Kanada und Britain ist wahr. Ich meinte nur daß viele Leute hier wißen daß "the bombing of Dresden was not strategically justified, but was an act of revenge." Das, wenigstens, ist richtig bericht hier.
Schöne Weihnachten und guten Rutsch
allenjmsmith 2 years ago
Well History Channel may say anything they want, as a matter of fact they use diversion of history many times.
As fas as I know I don't see honesty. Every time you read anything concerning the 2d. WW. they are far from reality. This is the best way to indoctrinate new generations.
A good author with credibility means a lot in a nice book.
Fröhliche Weihnachten und ein glückliches Neues Jahr!
KAIROA 2 years ago
@KAIROA, thank you for your Christmas and New Year's wishes as well. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to everyone as well.
As far as your comment is concerned, I think things change slowly. Just after the war it was shown a a good vs evil conflict, but now things are changing. On the other hand it should be remembered who started the war and what for. But no crime, no injustice, regardless who committed it could be justfied.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Good Lord, could this idiot reporter have taken a few moments to find out how to pronounce "Langsdorf," "Graf Spee" and "Nazi?" When I was being paid to read news on broadcast media, I felt it was my responsibility.
allenjmsmith 2 years ago
Just think, if your a person that works at a munitions plant, does that make you liable to recieve the blame for thousands of dead from your manufactured bullets?
bushmen123 2 years ago
All the people who are saying how could somebody name something after an enemy of war? Ask Steven Spielberg! Schindler's list was a movie of a sympathetic Nazi German businessman, for those who have not seen it, and Spielberg is Jewish to boot! Now that i believe shows that one can be on the enemies side, but still be considered a decent man for his acts against atrocities.
bushmen123 2 years ago
@bushmen123 - I am not saying "how could somebody...", I am just saying it is not usual - and you must admit it is not. A movie is a slightly different thing, naming a street is different. Schindler's story was different, too. He was not involved in military actions and he was saving human life. Langsdorff was rather sparing than saving human life. Nevertheless, as I said before, after regarding all the arguments I find the name acceptable.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
@OlenkaWagner I wasn't pointing my statement to you. However i agree the circumstance was slightly different,,in the context that Schindler was not personally involved in combat,but he was a full fledged Nazi party member, and believed in their cause,and maybe was not fighting with a rifle but he was using jews to his advantage to further the reich's cause, by running munitions plants. To me sparing lives is very similar to saving, they didn't die that's good enough in my book.
bushmen123 2 years ago
OK, I know it was not to me, but I jut tried to understand those who have some objections, especially if they do not know much about Cpt. Langsdorff. Yes sparing is similar to saving. Saving is more active, sparing is rather passive, but sometimes sparing puts someone in greater risk than saving. On the other hand if someone spares a person it is often a consequence of his action he shouldn't have taken in the first place.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
@bushmen123 i Think your right
ozeangruen 2 years ago
Well the nazis were spoil kids if anyone compare them with the RED MENACE, the Bolcheviques,big time assassins, killers of women, and children.
Let's nor forget what the allies did to Dresden. This city was not a military objective, over half million died burned.
Nobody knows this Official German, because the press never mention anything like this.
The war is written by the victors.
KAIROA 2 years ago
On the contrary, I was taught in high school history class in America that the bombing of Dresden was an act of revenge, not a strategic necessity. This is common knowledge among educated Amis and Brits. There was no effort to hide this.
allenjmsmith 2 years ago
KAIROA - I agree that communism is as evil as nazism. Nazism was defeated and no serious politicians or intellectuals would support nazism. Communism in most (unfortunately not all) countries collapsed on its own. Unfortunately too many intellectuals and politicians would admit their communist sympathies or at least say that the idea was not bad, etc. Very sad. Both systems were totalitarian and should be treated in the same way.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
yeah and capitalist is perfect, creating poverty,wars, inequality,diseases, WHY DONT YOU GO FUCK YOURSELF????
SMASH CAPITALISM!!!!!!!!!
pirufihho 2 years ago
@pirufihho, actually Nazism is an abbreviation of NATIONAL SOCIALISM, not "national capitalism" ;) The WW2 was started by Nazists.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
you support capitalism, and i laught at that shit of prehistoric, and pathetic systema, when you create money out of nothing, FUCK CAPITALISM! SMASH CAPITALISM! HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!
pirufihho 2 years ago
Actually creating money out of nothing wouldn't be so bad ;) (off topic).
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
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allenjmsmith 2 years ago
@pirufihho
Ask people in Corea, if they would prefer to live in the North or in the South?
SMASH SOCIALISM, international or national. Gruss aus Berlin
HorstKowalczik 2 years ago
Horst Kowalczik, you are right about socialism of both types. Gruss aus Krakau.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
@KAIROA: You wrote, "Nobody knows this Official German, because the press never mention..."
Recently, a program on The History Channel said the bombing of Dresden was retribution for an untentional (unbeknownst to the allies) German bombing of a residential area. The media are still covering it truthfully today.
The story of the bombing of Dresden is widely known among the educated populations of the former Allies.
Your blithe falsehood is an insult to an honest journalist.
allenjmsmith 2 years ago
i am german and we germans today have nothing to do with the shit that hapenned in ww2
hitler was austrian, not german...and the public didnt know that hitler and the nazis are killing millions of jews during the war
what would you think what the nazis had done to someone who would stand up and say that its wrong to kill the jews....the nazis would have killed this person, even if he is a german...
every german was just scared to to get killed by the nazis...
i am proud of my country
skiegiek 2 years ago
Skiegiek, this is always a problem with countries of totalitarian authority. To which extent are citizens responsible for their governments? Of course, Hitler must have had popular support, otherwise he would have never got to power. But even if a large number of Germans supported Hitler, still it was not the whole nation, so the nation could not be blamed as such. It is even more absurd to blame contemporary Germans for WW2.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
And going back to the strict topic - my question to people from Germany: Is Cpt. Hans Langsdorff known in Germany? I mean general public of course, not historians or people having special interest in WW2 or naval history or alike?
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
no he is not known in the general public...
skiegiek 2 years ago
I've read all the comments once again and most of them are loaded with negative emotions as if WW2 was still going on. Few comments refer directly to the fact of naming the street after capitan Langsdorff. I am from Poland and I know that in Poland it would be impossible to name anything after the enemy from WW2. So when I told this other people about that they were surprised and asked "what did he do?" (Langsdorff is almost unknown in Poland). TBC...
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Cont.... When I told them the whole story some people were not so against any more and some were still unconvinced saying that obeying international conventions (saving the crew from mechant ships before sinking those ships) was something that should be a standard thing and not the reason to honor people in a special way for that. Well, I think that in a situation when "standard" things stop being standard it is good to honor people doing them.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
@aurkr.........
you dont know nothing so shut up your stupid idiot
Thelordofthedance100 2 years ago
and u know so much, with a name like lord of the dance...
im just so happy that the jews will never let the holocaust be forgotten.
all the poeple on commenting on this video are nazi lovers...
im so happy that u fkn nazi kunts didnt have enough time to destroy auszwich and treblinka....im so happy that there are jew nazi hunters looking for all those nazi scum that got away...
im so happy that history has recorded this as the german solution...lest the world never forget what the GERMANS DID
ourkrakowfilms 2 years ago
"all the poeple on commenting on this video are nazi lovers..." - oh, what a conclusion! Technically speaking that would mean that you are a Nazi lover, because you are commenting on this video! ;) Now seriously, I don't like any generalizations. Not all Germans were Nazists. Nazism regarded some races superior and some inferior, but blaming the whole nation for the action of individuals follows the same logic. BTW. I live in Krakow.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Why did this video become a place for exchanging insults. You can explain what you do not like about something someone else wrote, but calling someone "stupid idiot" can only make other people think you have no arguments.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
i would be embarrassed if i was german.... go to dachau and have a look of what u and ur people did, what a fucked nationality.
ourkrakowfilms 2 years ago
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dymd3z 2 years ago
The bestial behaviour of polish animals against german people after WWs I and II turns pale the bloody lies about germans. They used to rape even babies and after that they crucified them or burned them alive. That lasted 10 years after war end. And they still want to be considered as victims. Where the hell was god at that time? Where the hell is he now?
birongono 2 years ago
I know that Soviets were guilty of massive rapes on German women after WW2. I haven't heard on any major attrocities during or after WW1. Some attrocites did occur after WW2 and also some Polish people can be blamed, but this does not justify any generalizations (saying "polish animals") or alike. But the topic of the video is different. So maybe we will talk about Ajax or Cpt. Langsdorff? We much drifted away.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
that doesnt even compare to what the nazis did....
i wonder what all the little kids say in germany these days, im german and my grandparents were nazis. i am so proud.
ourkrakowfilms 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Stupid .
1.9.1939----}17.9.1939 never forget.
Poland first to fight.
Fuck nazi.
Polen,Polen über alles,über alles in der Welt.-)
Hey hey USA.
P19S48 2 years ago
P19S48, no one says that anything should be forgotten. I agree that this is not a usual thing to name a street after an enemy, but in this context it looks acceptable.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
nanana, 14 tage sag ich nur :P
knoobz 2 years ago
XD 18 days we need for you fucking agressors and only 18 days because your bad streets!
19Max33 2 years ago
19Max33 and knoobz, what are you talking about?
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
We talk about the Polaish warmongers who losed in 18 Days
19Max33 2 years ago
How do you count these 18 days? The capital city of Warsaw stood for a month. Last organized groups surreded or dispersed only in the first days of October. I don't think there is much point in raising emotions about the conflict that ended 65 years ago. Oh... I have forgotten - No conflict ever ended on the YT ;)
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
on September 17 was the mass of the Polish army exterminated and on September 18 fled the Polish Government to Romania! Illegal Partizans and illegal declaration of Civil towns too warzone is barbarian, for civilist and the Soldiers who bcome through this murders also want Poland before a Border till Oder their Parol was from Stettin till Riga!
19Max33 2 years ago
"Illegal Partizans and illegal declaration of Civil towns" - what about starting the war by Germany? Was this decision legal? There was no even declaration of war.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago