@notrealme7 Yes, this was the peak part of the rush (about 7:50 a.m.). It was a little less crowded before and after this time - and also it's less crowded now than when this was taken, in 1991. - LHS
@reggaetoni The trouble with waiting for the next train is that it will be crowded as well, although a little less crowded, because it's a slower train. The next train is the train on the right - which stops at more stations than the express on the left. (Actually - by the time the slower train makes all its stops, it might be just as crowded!) But this was in 1991, 20 years ago. It's better now. And many people *do* wait for the next one now. - LHS
@TapasBarAmsterdam By riding on the roof? I used to wish I could! But they also ride with the doors open in India, and I'm sure they don't have the capacity of this train, as then people would be falling out the open doors! Anyway - it's less crowded than shown in this 1991 video I took back in the 20th century.... - LHS
@farah0115 Many of the people in this 1991 video probably do have cars, but with 30,000,000 people in the greater Tokyo area, driving isn't a realistic option. It would take about three hours to get to central Tokyo (compared to 40-50 minutes by train, including transfer times), and there are no parking facilities for employees at most companies. Still, depending on where people live, many do drive, but not so many as a percentage of 30,000,000. - LHS
@lylehsaxon 3 hours to get to central tokyo ? woaho . now i get it why they are so dare to get into train even it's full . very very full i think .huhu . 30,000,00 is a lot . big big number . how on hell they can live in a biggest community there ? they should build a longer train i guess Hehehe :D
@faezsyg Well, they have improved it. Since 1991, when I took this, they've increased the number of trains and built some new lines, so it's not as crowded as in this video now. And this is during the very peak, so it's not this crowded at other times too. But even when this was taken, it was a ten-car train, so the train is fairly large already. - LHS
I suppose the true extent of the crowding is indicated by the shoving and the pushing. There's a lot less shoving in your 2008 video. By the way, are all passengers going to get down at the end station or something? Someone stuck in the middle must have a hell of a time trying to get out at their stop!
@UrsusArctosT34 - Right. They added more trains and many companies began flex-time after that, so it's not so bad now, although in a mega-city like Tokyo with 30-million people, you can't avoid some crowding! This stop is Hibarigaoka, the next (express) stop (where almost no-one gets off) is Shakujikoen, and the next stop after that for this express train is Ikebukuro, which is the last stop where everyone gets off. That's another factor by the way - express trains are more crowded. - LHS
@UrsusArctosT34 And it's on the other side of the train - I was one of the last ones on at Hibarigaoka one morning, and the pressure at Shakujikoen was so high that I was worried I might end up with a cracked rib, so I flexed my arm mussels with my hands on the closed doors to take pressure off of my rib cage! But at that level of pressure, not many people could get on at Shakujikoen - not at the front anyway, where it was most crowded (since it's nearest the exit gates). - LHS
@lylehsaxon Ouch! I just saw your "Shakujikoen Sardine Run" video as well- and just like you said, the crowd headed up front. Do you take that line on a regular basis?
@UrsusArctosT34 I used to take it all the time! I used to look up at the luggage rack and wish I could climb up there and lie down for the ride! Incidentally, that Shakujikoen video was taken on the same day as the Hibarigaoka video - earlier, before the peak. With that train at Hibarigaoka (taken around 7:50 a.m.), I don't think anyone got on in that front car at Shakujikoen! But anyway, it's not so bad now. I have another video that shows several trains at Shakujikoen. - LHS
@tpstrat14 Re: "is this some kind of joke?" - No, it's real, but it was taken in 1991 and it's less crowded now. Basically it's just a lot of people who realize that if they don't get on that express, then they'll be late for work, and they really don't want to be late. The platform people and the drivers, for their part, want to get the train out on time, which they do. - LHS
@JoEjOhSoN2fAn It is. I'm not sure how many people fit in one train car like this - I think maybe 200 or more? At 200 per car, that's 2,000 people on one ten-car train. - LHS
@MultiShifties Re: " people will rush into a train for fear of having to wait 3 more minutes for the next one" - In this case, the next train leaves 60 seconds later, *but* arrives in Ikebukuro about 10 minutes later. For people who will get to work one or two minutes before their starting time via the express, the next train means they'll be late. Recently (this video was taken in 1991 BTW) a lot of people do wait for the next train though. - LHS
@loooolu102365498 This was in 1991 - it's not that bad now. I used this train myself for 16 years, so I know why. When I had a choice between packing myself in (sometimes with, sometimes without help), and getting to work on-time, or taking the next train and arriving late, I was happier to be a sardine than to be late! The ride from here to Ikebukuro (the last stop) was only about 20-25 minutes. - LHS
@alfredoeduardo1974 When I was inside this train, I used to wish that I could climb on top! But it goes fast in some places, so I think people would fall off if they were on the roof. Have you ridden on top yourself? It looks like it could be interesting - up high and out in the open air. - LHS
@grig60 It might even have been safer in a way - you couldn't fall down even if you tried! Also, I heard something very interesting about cattle-handling - apparently when they have pressure against their sides, they calm down. I can remember being totally packed in and it felt strangely normal - less irritating than *almost* having your own space, but being continually bumped into. So it may actually be less comfortable when it's a little less crowded? - LHS
@millamulisha Embarrassing? Ah... actually, it is when seen outside of the country! But the system is better now, so it's easier to laugh off the past. (This was taken in 1991.) - LHS
@jurrieb Well, as a person who used this line for 16 years, I know the mentality and situation. Basically it comes down to leaving for work at the last minute, but needing to be on time. So if they miss that train, they're late for work. Also, keep in mind that most of the pushing is done by the passengers themselves! The extra help from the platform is to get the doors closed so the train can stay on-schedule, which all the riders want it to be! - LHS
@jurrieb But the next one, and the one after that, etc., are also crowded! Check out my video "Morning Tokyo Trains in 1991", which shows (in the middle of the clip) how one train after another is just as full. In 1991, if you waited until the trains weren't crowded, you'd have to go to work at least two hours late - every day! In fact, companies finally started allowing flex-time after this, so that's basically what happened. - LHS
@joekim1000 With the older trains, it was actually possible to run them with the doors open, so they relied on the red light on the side of each car to check if they were closed or not. With the new trains, I think it's not possible to run them with the doors open. (This was taken in 1991, by the way.) - LHS
@loljolly2 The weird thing about it is that when it's this crowded (hardly ever now, but all the time in 1991, when I took this), it becomes sort of funny and the absurdity of the situation makes it less irritating. When it's somewhere between this and being able to sit down, it's actually more irritating, because you are sporadically bumped into, rather than just being a sardine in a large can on wheels. - LHS
@xxxmikiexxx Well... the passengers are pushing as hard as anyone! They want to get to work on time.... Another question was if it's serious. It's for real - but it's better now. This was taken in 1991. - LHS
@xxxmikiexxx I know - I'm just saying. Check out the second door - the guy gets a couple to give it up and they look disappointed and then head to the slower train on the right. I used this line for 16 years, so I remember the mindset! It was just "Got to get on this train or I'll be late for work!" Once aboard, I didn't enjoy the ride, that's for sure, but I hated to miss the train too... - LHS
@XowntXihqX It was, so they stiffened the law and started throwing guys in jail for it. They also have a women-only car on most lines in the morning now. - LHS
@darkilustrisimus It was - in 1991 when I took this, but they've improved the system since then and a lot of companies started flex-time, which helps. It's still crowded and you usually have to stand all the time during the peak hours, but it's not usually this intense. - LHS
@mystevie31 This train was ten cars. To add more cars they would have to build longer platforms. But this was taken in 1991. Since then, they've built some new train lines and increased the number of places express trains can pass locals, which speeds things up and allows more trains to be added. - LHS
@tankboyprime You can still link to it I think. I disabled embedding because people are always writing lies about this video - that it's in China (it isn't, it's in Japan); that it's now (it isn't, it was taken in 1991); that the station people are police (they aren't, they're station employees and drivers); etc. etc. If linked to this post, at least people can get accurate information about it. - LHS
@jakesbaja In this video everyone is going straight in, with backup power supplied from the guys on the platform, but the way to generate the most train-entering power is to back in, since you can get more power into the push that way - plus when you're close enough to reach back with your arms, you can pull from the top edge of the door frame. That way, you get all the power of both legs and both arms. Once you get your feet over the ledge, and elbows on the top ledge, you're in! - LHS
@SeanMcDonnell The Seibu-Ikebukuro Line at Hibarigaoka. This was taken in 1991 though - it's not this bad now since they increased the number of trains and built more places for express trains to get around locals, etc. - LHS
@jumbodoug Yeah - there are bench seats along the windows (facing the inside of the train) and in conditions like above, the people standing end up pressed up against their knees. I've been on rides where I had my hands on the window glass to keep from falling completely on top of someone sitting down. But in any case, they've improved the conditions since this was taken in 1991, it isn't usually this crowded any more. Racks for stuff are above the seats. - LHS
The funny thing about that is when people are packed in that tightly, sometimes the doors *can't* open! So people have to reach up above the doors and push back hard to get enough pressure off of the doors so they can open! As for the doors coming off their tracks and suddenly being open - I've never heard of that happening. I think they designed them to take a lot of pressure... - LHS
@potnude Well... the ride was only about 20-25 minutes to the end of the line where everyone got off. I used this line for 16 years, so I know exactly what it was like. One time I flexed my arms against the glass in the door when it was being loaded from the other side - to prevent the pressure from breaking a rib. Still - it would take two or three hour to drive, so 20-25 minutes as a sardine was... not fun, but bearable. - LHS
In this case, easily. This is at Hibarigaoka, and since it's an express (which is why people want on so badly), the next stop is Shakujikoen, where (incredibly enough), more people get on, but nobody gets off (people wanting to get off at Shakujikoen wouldn't get on the most crowded part of this train (the front is this case), and the next station the trains stops at after Shakujikoen, is the terminal station Ikebukuro, where everyone gets off. - LHS
@Gyroglle This is an express train. Only two more stations after this - Shakujikoen, where (amazingly enough) still more people get on, and then Ikebukuro, the last stop on the line, where everyone gets off. - LHS
I was wondering too, so last year I went back to the same station at the same time in the morning and took a new video - which is posted on YouTube under the title "Less Crowded in 2998. In addition to flex-time, they have also increased the number of trains.. - LHS
Indeed - I generally think of riding the morning trains as "joining the sardine run". They're better now than in this video that I took in 1991, but still quite crowded (some more so than others of course). - LHS
That was a problem before, but they have made strict laws against it since then, and many lines have a women-only car in the mornings now, so it's better now than it appears in this video I took in 1991. - LHS
Not just groped...look what the guy in the white coat is doing from about 0:18 on. O.o It's nice to not have to sacrifice your dignity like that in the U.S. Kind makes me glad I live on a 30 acre section of land populated by three people, even if it does take a while to get to work.
Imaging that much space for me is sort of like someone in Nevada thinking of somewhere cool and with a lot of water. I'm sort of used to the crowds, and the density of Tokyo in general can be exciting, but it sure would be nice to have more space. I spend over three hours a day (round trip) in trains - some of them not very much better than in this video... - LHS
that's either the seibu ikebukuro line or the seibu shinjuku line. some of these old yellow trains are still in use today, use them to go to shinjuku from home.
it's the Seibu-Ikebukuro Line at Hibarigaoka. The train on the right is a junkyu and the one of the left is a kyuko - with one more intermediary stop at Shakujikoen (where very few people are likely to actually get on) and then it runs to the end of the line at Ikebukuro. In 1991, when this was taken, there was no connection with the subway, so all the trains ended up in Ikebukuro. - LHS
Well, nobody likes being shoved, but they like being late to work even less. If the train lines habitually kept people from getting to work on time due to holding them back, then they would be sued for interfering with a person's right to get to work. (I'm being mainly seriously too!) So its seen as better to help people get where they're going on time rather than worry about comfort. Anyway - this was taken in 1991. It's not nearly as crowded as in 2009 - LHS
I'm not entirely sure what you wrote (in Slovak?), but something about collecting tickets and clearing a path to get on (or off) the train? If so, the tickets are taken before getting to the platform, and in this case, it's an express train, with only two stops to the last stop. Nobody was getting off, so that part was okay. Remember that's it was taken in 1991 and it's better now. Also see my recent post "Prelude to Full Train" which shows the ticket gates. - LHS
Oh, okay! Reserved seats and more trains! There were a fair number of trains, but not so many express trains, which this one is. They've added more trains since then, and it's much less crowded now, but remember there are 30,000,000 people in the metropolitan Tokyo area, so it's a lot of people to move around! - LHS
When I rode this train every day, I used to think it was funny - for about one year, and then it stopped being funny! Anyway, this was taken in 1991 - it's less crowded now, as you can see in my video "Less Crowded in 2008". - LHS
The next stop is Shakujikoen, where no one gets off, and then it skips a slew of stations (it's an express, which is why everyone wants on) and stops at the terminal station, Ikebukuro, where everyone gets off. - LHS
Yeah, actually it's true! When I was using this line, I was actually happy for help to get on. I was more interested in making it to work on time as a sardine than I was standing on the platform waiting for the next train in empty but late space! - LHS
Well, it's not this bad now in 2009, although it's still crowded. The thing to remember about Tokyo though, is that (if you include the suburbs), there are 30,000,000 people here! So it was never that they didn't have many trains - but that there are so very many people here! And since 1991, they have added several new lines, built new tracks on old lines, etc. It's much better now. - LHS
I've heard tales of people getting cracked ribs, but I haven't heard of anyone actually dieing. A friend had a PDA in his pocket broken. I still have to force my way onto trains sometimes. As for the pushing - this particular train at this time of the morning (express train at about 7:50 a.m.) was so overcrowded, that brute force was the only way to get on. but again, it's not nearly as bad now. See my video "Less Crowded in 2008" for how it looked one year ago. - LHS
Yeah, like in a cartoon, except it's real! I used to ride this line every day. In the beginning I laughed about it, but after awhile, become a sardine didn't seem so funny. It's not this crowded now, although it's still crowded. - LHS
Oh yeah - the brakes. This type of train car had brake shoes that clamped down on the external wheel surfaces to stop. I think most (maybe all), of the trains now have disk brakes with huge calipers between the wheels. Those are quieter I think. Also the heavy load of the train probably helps produce noise - it must take a lot of braking power to stop the thing with so many people aboard! - LHS
Complaining doesn't help. If the passengers began complaining, it would make the train even later. If they didn't do some pushing to get on, they would be late for work - very late, as the next and the next and the next trains are also crowded. It has gotten better though. This is in 1991 - it's less crowded in 2009. - LHS
Re: "and if anyone wants to get off at the next station? xD ajajajaja"
Well, in this case, everyone is headed to Ikebukuro, the last stop on the line, and there is only one more stop before there - Shakujikoen. Naturally, no one can get on at that front door in Shakujikoen! Normally, if you say "Orimasu! - Orimasu! - Orimasu!" ("I'm getting off! - I'm getting off! - I'm getting off"" then people will get off once to let you off, and then get back on after that. - LHS
As a matter of fact I did. It was stolen from me and copied all over the Internet, but I took the bloody thing. I can prove it too. Since you seem to believe that some thief or other is the proper owner, please tell me who this thief is, I'd like to contact the police and shut down their illegal and stolen copy of my video. - LHS
I think he means it when he says he owns the video. Look at the audio/video quality of this: far superior than other Youtube ripoff. It also is a couple seconds longer than the other ones.
Re: "I think he means it when he says he owns the video."
Yes, thank you. I *did* take this. For more proof, see "Morning Tokyo Trains in 1991", which includes many scenes from the same morning, including some bits from this clip.
I rode this line every day for about sixteen years - I often thought exactly that! The other thing I thought while smashed inside like a sardine, is that I would like to climb up onto the overhead luggage rack and lie down! - LHS
lol watching this vid...influencing me not to go to japan... =) dont get me wrong i think jap is cool i love their language and their tradition and culture owh dont forget the food yummm =p sushi....
Well, the trains aren't usually quite this bad. I ride in packed trains every day, but usually there are only three or four people touching me at a time (not joking). In a train like in this video, if you count every elbow, shoulder, etc., it can be seven or eight at a time. If you visit as a tourist, usually you can avoid the sardine trains by staying off commuter lines early in the morning, etc. - LHS
The morning is the worst. In the afternoon, you might even be able to sit down, but even if you have to stand, you would have some space around you. The evening is crowded, but usually not as bad as in the morning...except for a last train on a Friday night! Those can be really bad too! Also remember that this video I took in 1991 - it's gotten less crowded since there due to more trains and flex time at companies. - LHS
Don't worry.. I've been there for almost a month and never got in trains this packed.
You just have to avoid rush hours.
Also, most trains aren't like that.
And to tell the truth, even if I had to face such conditions there, I'd still recommend for you to go... it was the best tourism experience I've even had.
You push while saying "Orimasu... orimasu... orimasu..." (I'm getting off... I'm getting off...") and people will (temporarily) get off the train so people can get out. In the case of this video, it's around 7:50 a.m. and everyone is headed into central Tokyo. There is only one more stop (Shakujikoen) between this station (Hibarigaoka) and the terminal station Ikebukuro, so everyone's headed to the same station. (I know this line well - I used to ride it every day... for 16 years!) - LHS
Thanks! The thing I regret about it though, is that it's been copied all over the net with weird titles and wrong information. I rescued this from the original 8mm tape I used to "film" it just in time, as the tapes are beginning to deteriorate after 17 (almost 18 now) years. - LHS
Yeah, it really was tough riding that train into central Tokyo every day in 1991. Now it's still crowded (there are 30,000,000 people in the greater Tokyo area after all!), but not nearly so bad as in this video. - LHS
I hope nobody suffered any cracked/broken ribs as a result of all the pushing. That has to be one brutal daily commute way back in the early 1990's. O_O
The other thing that would happen, is people would be leaning way over the people sitting down, or sometimes fall on top of them! (Meant to say more last night, but I fell asleep in front of the computer.) - LHS
Yeah - me too! And that's the way most people feel with flex time now. But in 1991, when this was taken, companies didn't have flex time and they very strict about people being on time to work (penalties for being late, etc.), so people were happier to suffer as sardines than to suffer the wrath of angry bosses and lost pay. - LHS
I've heard that the express trains on the Seibu-Ikebukuro Line used to be really bad - now I know it's true! They're still crowded, but nothing like this!
Right. In fact I have a video taken this year (2008) that shows the same spot on the same platform at the same time of day and the same situation of an express train passing another train - see "Less Crowded in 2008" - LHS
In 1991 (when this was taken), there was no flex-time and so if you took the last express (the train on the left is an Express and the one of the right a slower "Junkyu") that would get you to work on time, you either got on that specific train or you were late to work. Not all trains were this crowded of course - this was the peak of the rush period. - LHS
Well, I took this in 1991 - it's gotten better with flex-time and more trains, more lines, etc. But at the time, I used to be packed into a train like in the video and think "This is no way for human beings to live!". Fortunately, the locals didn't like it either and they've improved the system. Also, this is during the morning rush - if you avoid that, the train system is actually really good - although you have to stand most of the time... - LHS
Actually no - it's real. I know because I took it. It's not so crowded on all trains and not so crowded at all times and not this crowded now, but it was crowded like that every weekday on that line at that time of day (about 7:50 a.m.) in 1991, when I took that video. I often rode on that sucker myself... it's real dude - it's very real. - LHS
Somebody's coat. That happens sometimes. Usually you can pull it back in, but if you can't, and the doors open on the other side of the train at the station you want to get off at.... - LHS
Yes - and still are sometimes, but not as tightly as in this video. Still, if the trains are running late for some reason, it can still get pretty intense.... - LHS
What happened is I first posted this video at Google-Video. It was copied from there, and the first person who posted a copy version after that at YouTube ended up getting over a million hits. Once I realized that everyone looks at YouTube and not Google Video, I (belatedly) posted it a second time here. I'm not real happy about the situation, especially since none of the other sites explain things properly.... - LHS
Like Madrid huh? But those are *not* guards! Two are the drivers of the trains and the others are either station employees or part-time workers. - LHS
OMG, must be super duper peak hours..
notrealme7 5 months ago
@notrealme7 Yes, this was the peak part of the rush (about 7:50 a.m.). It was a little less crowded before and after this time - and also it's less crowded now than when this was taken, in 1991. - LHS
lylehsaxon 5 months ago
did this footage ever go viral?
Brinah 7 months ago
oh wow,lol.looks rough
MummyRapist 8 months ago
i'd sit there smiling waiting for the next train :-)
reggaetoni 8 months ago 2
@reggaetoni The trouble with waiting for the next train is that it will be crowded as well, although a little less crowded, because it's a slower train. The next train is the train on the right - which stops at more stations than the express on the left. (Actually - by the time the slower train makes all its stops, it might be just as crowded!) But this was in 1991, 20 years ago. It's better now. And many people *do* wait for the next one now. - LHS
lylehsaxon 8 months ago
@lylehsaxon That's exactly what the cameraman did :-)
saariko 8 months ago
they need to learn from india..........
TapasBarAmsterdam 10 months ago
@TapasBarAmsterdam By riding on the roof? I used to wish I could! But they also ride with the doors open in India, and I'm sure they don't have the capacity of this train, as then people would be falling out the open doors! Anyway - it's less crowded than shown in this 1991 video I took back in the 20th century.... - LHS
lylehsaxon 10 months ago
woahhh ! so freaky . they do not have any car to drove ? -.-
farah0115 11 months ago
@farah0115 Many of the people in this 1991 video probably do have cars, but with 30,000,000 people in the greater Tokyo area, driving isn't a realistic option. It would take about three hours to get to central Tokyo (compared to 40-50 minutes by train, including transfer times), and there are no parking facilities for employees at most companies. Still, depending on where people live, many do drive, but not so many as a percentage of 30,000,000. - LHS
lylehsaxon 11 months ago
@lylehsaxon 3 hours to get to central tokyo ? woaho . now i get it why they are so dare to get into train even it's full . very very full i think .huhu . 30,000,00 is a lot . big big number . how on hell they can live in a biggest community there ? they should build a longer train i guess Hehehe :D
faezsyg 11 months ago
@faezsyg Well, they have improved it. Since 1991, when I took this, they've increased the number of trains and built some new lines, so it's not as crowded as in this video now. And this is during the very peak, so it's not this crowded at other times too. But even when this was taken, it was a ten-car train, so the train is fairly large already. - LHS
lylehsaxon 11 months ago
I suppose the true extent of the crowding is indicated by the shoving and the pushing. There's a lot less shoving in your 2008 video. By the way, are all passengers going to get down at the end station or something? Someone stuck in the middle must have a hell of a time trying to get out at their stop!
UrsusArctosT34 1 year ago
@UrsusArctosT34 - Right. They added more trains and many companies began flex-time after that, so it's not so bad now, although in a mega-city like Tokyo with 30-million people, you can't avoid some crowding! This stop is Hibarigaoka, the next (express) stop (where almost no-one gets off) is Shakujikoen, and the next stop after that for this express train is Ikebukuro, which is the last stop where everyone gets off. That's another factor by the way - express trains are more crowded. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
@lylehsaxon Thanks for the reply. The pushers at Shakujikoen must have been very strong to get any commuters in!
UrsusArctosT34 1 year ago
@UrsusArctosT34 And it's on the other side of the train - I was one of the last ones on at Hibarigaoka one morning, and the pressure at Shakujikoen was so high that I was worried I might end up with a cracked rib, so I flexed my arm mussels with my hands on the closed doors to take pressure off of my rib cage! But at that level of pressure, not many people could get on at Shakujikoen - not at the front anyway, where it was most crowded (since it's nearest the exit gates). - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
@lylehsaxon Ouch! I just saw your "Shakujikoen Sardine Run" video as well- and just like you said, the crowd headed up front. Do you take that line on a regular basis?
UrsusArctosT34 1 year ago
@UrsusArctosT34 I used to take it all the time! I used to look up at the luggage rack and wish I could climb up there and lie down for the ride! Incidentally, that Shakujikoen video was taken on the same day as the Hibarigaoka video - earlier, before the peak. With that train at Hibarigaoka (taken around 7:50 a.m.), I don't think anyone got on in that front car at Shakujikoen! But anyway, it's not so bad now. I have another video that shows several trains at Shakujikoen. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
@lylehsaxon Ah, thanks! The pushers at Shakujikoen must have had superhuman strength to get any commuters in.
UrsusArctosT34 1 year ago
is this some kind of joke?
tpstrat14 1 year ago
@tpstrat14 Re: "is this some kind of joke?" - No, it's real, but it was taken in 1991 and it's less crowded now. Basically it's just a lot of people who realize that if they don't get on that express, then they'll be late for work, and they really don't want to be late. The platform people and the drivers, for their part, want to get the train out on time, which they do. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
OMG HAHAHA that's a big train as well XD
JoEjOhSoN2fAn 1 year ago
@JoEjOhSoN2fAn It is. I'm not sure how many people fit in one train car like this - I think maybe 200 or more? At 200 per car, that's 2,000 people on one ten-car train. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
HAHA if this was usa the murder rate will go up 80% during rush hour ....
ern363 1 year ago 4
@ern363 : for sure. But in Japan people will rush into a train for fear of having to wait 3 more minutes for the next one.
MultiShifties 1 year ago
@MultiShifties Re: " people will rush into a train for fear of having to wait 3 more minutes for the next one" - In this case, the next train leaves 60 seconds later, *but* arrives in Ikebukuro about 10 minutes later. For people who will get to work one or two minutes before their starting time via the express, the next train means they'll be late. Recently (this video was taken in 1991 BTW) a lot of people do wait for the next train though. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
How can this be true, they are packin humans like sardines!!!!!!
---Ice wager
loooolu102365498 1 year ago
@loooolu102365498 This was in 1991 - it's not that bad now. I used this train myself for 16 years, so I know why. When I had a choice between packing myself in (sometimes with, sometimes without help), and getting to work on-time, or taking the next train and arriving late, I was happier to be a sardine than to be late! The ride from here to Ikebukuro (the last stop) was only about 20-25 minutes. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
in Guatemala we go on top and/or hang from doors.
alfredoeduardo1974 1 year ago
@alfredoeduardo1974 When I was inside this train, I used to wish that I could climb on top! But it goes fast in some places, so I think people would fall off if they were on the roof. Have you ridden on top yourself? It looks like it could be interesting - up high and out in the open air. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
It's a wonder there wern't any casualities!
grig60 1 year ago
@grig60 It might even have been safer in a way - you couldn't fall down even if you tried! Also, I heard something very interesting about cattle-handling - apparently when they have pressure against their sides, they calm down. I can remember being totally packed in and it felt strangely normal - less irritating than *almost* having your own space, but being continually bumped into. So it may actually be less comfortable when it's a little less crowded? - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
How embarrassing... haha
millamulisha 1 year ago
@millamulisha Embarrassing? Ah... actually, it is when seen outside of the country! But the system is better now, so it's easier to laugh off the past. (This was taken in 1991.) - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
I love it how they dont wait for the next train and just push people in :/
jurrieb 1 year ago
@jurrieb Well, as a person who used this line for 16 years, I know the mentality and situation. Basically it comes down to leaving for work at the last minute, but needing to be on time. So if they miss that train, they're late for work. Also, keep in mind that most of the pushing is done by the passengers themselves! The extra help from the platform is to get the doors closed so the train can stay on-schedule, which all the riders want it to be! - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
@lylehsaxon In the country i live in we would just call our boss tell them the train is full and we could take the next one.
jurrieb 1 year ago
@jurrieb But the next one, and the one after that, etc., are also crowded! Check out my video "Morning Tokyo Trains in 1991", which shows (in the middle of the clip) how one train after another is just as full. In 1991, if you waited until the trains weren't crowded, you'd have to go to work at least two hours late - every day! In fact, companies finally started allowing flex-time after this, so that's basically what happened. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
hahahaha it would be funny if the train left wen their pushing the ppl in
joekim1000 1 year ago
@joekim1000 With the older trains, it was actually possible to run them with the doors open, so they relied on the red light on the side of each car to check if they were closed or not. With the new trains, I think it's not possible to run them with the doors open. (This was taken in 1991, by the way.) - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
thats so good lol
tkswadling 1 year ago
@tkswadling I think it's funny to watch too, but when I used this line every day, I didn't like being inside very much... - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
Manhandling to a whole new level
loljolly2 1 year ago
@loljolly2 The weird thing about it is that when it's this crowded (hardly ever now, but all the time in 1991, when I took this), it becomes sort of funny and the absurdity of the situation makes it less irritating. When it's somewhere between this and being able to sit down, it's actually more irritating, because you are sporadically bumped into, rather than just being a sardine in a large can on wheels. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
get in there now!
xxxmikiexxx 1 year ago
@xxxmikiexxx Well... the passengers are pushing as hard as anyone! They want to get to work on time.... Another question was if it's serious. It's for real - but it's better now. This was taken in 1991. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
@lylehsaxon Haha, when I wrote that I actually didn't mean it to sound threatening. I meant it like encouraging. But yeah, interesting!
xxxmikiexxx 1 year ago
@xxxmikiexxx I know - I'm just saying. Check out the second door - the guy gets a couple to give it up and they look disappointed and then head to the slower train on the right. I used this line for 16 years, so I remember the mindset! It was just "Got to get on this train or I'll be late for work!" Once aboard, I didn't enjoy the ride, that's for sure, but I hated to miss the train too... - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
molestating in there must be rly easy
XowntXihqX 1 year ago
@XowntXihqX It was, so they stiffened the law and started throwing guys in jail for it. They also have a women-only car on most lines in the morning now. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
Is this every day life?
darkilustrisimus 1 year ago
@darkilustrisimus It was - in 1991 when I took this, but they've improved the system since then and a lot of companies started flex-time, which helps. It's still crowded and you usually have to stand all the time during the peak hours, but it's not usually this intense. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
Why dont they add more cars?
mystevie31 1 year ago
@mystevie31 This train was ten cars. To add more cars they would have to build longer platforms. But this was taken in 1991. Since then, they've built some new train lines and increased the number of places express trains can pass locals, which speeds things up and allows more trains to be added. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
I wish embedding wasn't disabled on this ... it'd make a great Friday Afternoon Diversion on Chicagoist!
tankboyprime 1 year ago
@tankboyprime You can still link to it I think. I disabled embedding because people are always writing lies about this video - that it's in China (it isn't, it's in Japan); that it's now (it isn't, it was taken in 1991); that the station people are police (they aren't, they're station employees and drivers); etc. etc. If linked to this post, at least people can get accurate information about it. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
"Ok everyone, exhale and PUUUSH!!!!"
jakesbaja 1 year ago
@jakesbaja In this video everyone is going straight in, with backup power supplied from the guys on the platform, but the way to generate the most train-entering power is to back in, since you can get more power into the push that way - plus when you're close enough to reach back with your arms, you can pull from the top edge of the door frame. That way, you get all the power of both legs and both arms. Once you get your feet over the ledge, and elbows on the top ledge, you're in! - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
What Station/Line is this?
SeanMcDonnell 1 year ago
@SeanMcDonnell The Seibu-Ikebukuro Line at Hibarigaoka. This was taken in 1991 though - it's not this bad now since they increased the number of trains and built more places for express trains to get around locals, etc. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
wtf!!! lmao.
ZaneDoug711 1 year ago
do they have seats or shelfs in these trains??
jumbodoug 1 year ago
@jumbodoug Yeah - there are bench seats along the windows (facing the inside of the train) and in conditions like above, the people standing end up pressed up against their knees. I've been on rides where I had my hands on the window glass to keep from falling completely on top of someone sitting down. But in any case, they've improved the conditions since this was taken in 1991, it isn't usually this crowded any more. Racks for stuff are above the seats. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
The funny thing about that is when people are packed in that tightly, sometimes the doors *can't* open! So people have to reach up above the doors and push back hard to get enough pressure off of the doors so they can open! As for the doors coming off their tracks and suddenly being open - I've never heard of that happening. I think they designed them to take a lot of pressure... - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
What if those doors open mid journey?
o.O
NavnHerr 1 year ago 15
@NavnHerr I don't think that's ever happened. Funny thing is, with enough pressure against them, sometimes they don't open right away. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
Holyshit.
That's even worst than the people in Trains heading to Auswitch.
potnude 1 year ago
@potnude Well... the ride was only about 20-25 minutes to the end of the line where everyone got off. I used this line for 16 years, so I know exactly what it was like. One time I flexed my arms against the glass in the door when it was being loaded from the other side - to prevent the pressure from breaking a rib. Still - it would take two or three hour to drive, so 20-25 minutes as a sardine was... not fun, but bearable. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
これって日本だけの光景？
gotsuandeath 2 years ago
(O.O) DANG!!!!
Oliviaanncoronado 2 years ago
да они же упоротые!!!
piroJOKE2000 2 years ago
1:38
SaintJmartin 2 years ago
How to hell are they able to get off at the right station?
Gyroglle 2 years ago 29
In this case, easily. This is at Hibarigaoka, and since it's an express (which is why people want on so badly), the next stop is Shakujikoen, where (incredibly enough), more people get on, but nobody gets off (people wanting to get off at Shakujikoen wouldn't get on the most crowded part of this train (the front is this case), and the next station the trains stops at after Shakujikoen, is the terminal station Ikebukuro, where everyone gets off. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
I see, thanks for your response.
Gyroglle 2 years ago
they dont
tiagom135 2 years ago
@Gyroglle This is an express train. Only two more stations after this - Shakujikoen, where (amazingly enough) still more people get on, and then Ikebukuro, the last stop on the line, where everyone gets off. - LHS
lylehsaxon 1 year ago
aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!no puede ser!
flask2000 2 years ago
When this happens do any Japanese find it funny or fun? I really cant wait until I live in Japan - best country ever!! Viva la Japan!
gaktkr 2 years ago
駅員も大変だね。
KHK653 2 years ago
Flex time... that would go a long way to fixing a problem like this.
I wonder how effective it's been?
chaz706 2 years ago
I was wondering too, so last year I went back to the same station at the same time in the morning and took a new video - which is posted on YouTube under the title "Less Crowded in 2998. In addition to flex-time, they have also increased the number of trains.. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
Typo fix - that should have been "Less Crowded in 2008"...
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
レッドアローが通過してった。
金払えば座って通勤できる埼玉県民めー。
羨ましい。
CaptainDaikon 2 years ago
talk about sardines >.>
musashi453 2 years ago
Indeed - I generally think of riding the morning trains as "joining the sardine run". They're better now than in this video that I took in 1991, but still quite crowded (some more so than others of course). - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
i feel bad for the women there. talk about getting groped ._.;
FiFiONA 2 years ago
That was a problem before, but they have made strict laws against it since then, and many lines have a women-only car in the mornings now, so it's better now than it appears in this video I took in 1991. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
Not just groped...look what the guy in the white coat is doing from about 0:18 on. O.o It's nice to not have to sacrifice your dignity like that in the U.S. Kind makes me glad I live on a 30 acre section of land populated by three people, even if it does take a while to get to work.
Grenadier1944 2 years ago
Imaging that much space for me is sort of like someone in Nevada thinking of somewhere cool and with a lot of water. I'm sort of used to the crowds, and the density of Tokyo in general can be exciting, but it sure would be nice to have more space. I spend over three hours a day (round trip) in trains - some of them not very much better than in this video... - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
that's either the seibu ikebukuro line or the seibu shinjuku line. some of these old yellow trains are still in use today, use them to go to shinjuku from home.
do you know the name of the station?
sabu85 2 years ago
it's the Seibu-Ikebukuro Line at Hibarigaoka. The train on the right is a junkyu and the one of the left is a kyuko - with one more intermediary stop at Shakujikoen (where very few people are likely to actually get on) and then it runs to the end of the line at Ikebukuro. In 1991, when this was taken, there was no connection with the subway, so all the trains ended up in Ikebukuro. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
What happened to health and safety - i would call my lawyer and get the company sued - i would stand for being pushed in like that!
yorkyboy1992 2 years ago
Well, nobody likes being shoved, but they like being late to work even less. If the train lines habitually kept people from getting to work on time due to holding them back, then they would be sued for interfering with a person's right to get to work. (I'm being mainly seriously too!) So its seen as better to help people get where they're going on time rather than worry about comfort. Anyway - this was taken in 1991. It's not nearly as crowded as in 2009 - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
Tak tu by maly okamzite zaviest take nieco ze povinne miestenkovy vlak ... a zarobily by aj viac a mmohly by aj kontrolovat listky
a nech jazdia castejsie jednoznacna chyba drah keby toto bolo na slovensku nestane sa to ale boly by sme radi keby sme maly tolko zakaznikou
350XxXcompany350 2 years ago
I'm not entirely sure what you wrote (in Slovak?), but something about collecting tickets and clearing a path to get on (or off) the train? If so, the tickets are taken before getting to the platform, and in this case, it's an express train, with only two stops to the last stop. Nobody was getting off, so that part was okay. Remember that's it was taken in 1991 and it's better now. Also see my recent post "Prelude to Full Train" which shows the ticket gates. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
Oh, okay! Reserved seats and more trains! There were a fair number of trains, but not so many express trains, which this one is. They've added more trains since then, and it's much less crowded now, but remember there are 30,000,000 people in the metropolitan Tokyo area, so it's a lot of people to move around! - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
good thing i dont live there,lmao this is very funny!!
emorose3 2 years ago
When I rode this train every day, I used to think it was funny - for about one year, and then it stopped being funny! Anyway, this was taken in 1991 - it's less crowded now, as you can see in my video "Less Crowded in 2008". - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
and how they get ou of the train again ??? ^^ good luck
Buddhakecks 2 years ago
The next stop is Shakujikoen, where no one gets off, and then it skips a slew of stations (it's an express, which is why everyone wants on) and stops at the terminal station, Ikebukuro, where everyone gets off. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
I thought they'd never get them to fit but they did. Awesome, awesome work from the men in white gloves. :)
DKP0wers 2 years ago
Yeah, actually it's true! When I was using this line, I was actually happy for help to get on. I was more interested in making it to work on time as a sardine than I was standing on the platform waiting for the next train in empty but late space! - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
Wow, this is poor. I used to live in Iran and even the public transportation is much better there.
Though in 1991 they didn't even have a metro so maybe I'll shut the eff up. How about that?
Kooofteh 2 years ago
Well, it's not this bad now in 2009, although it's still crowded. The thing to remember about Tokyo though, is that (if you include the suburbs), there are 30,000,000 people here! So it was never that they didn't have many trains - but that there are so very many people here! And since 1991, they have added several new lines, built new tracks on old lines, etc. It's much better now. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
But I can't even comprehend this video... what's with the pushing?
Obviously all these people want to get to work, so they're going to pack in as tight as possible. Is it even safe to shove people in they're cattle?
Kooofteh 2 years ago
I've heard tales of people getting cracked ribs, but I haven't heard of anyone actually dieing. A friend had a PDA in his pocket broken. I still have to force my way onto trains sometimes. As for the pushing - this particular train at this time of the morning (express train at about 7:50 a.m.) was so overcrowded, that brute force was the only way to get on. but again, it's not nearly as bad now. See my video "Less Crowded in 2008" for how it looked one year ago. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
obviously no
ShitCrap 2 years ago
theres a guy in a trench coat!
Maybe he started the Trenchcoat Mafia hahaha
clubpenguin777 2 years ago
1:30 hahaha this is the best part
panteropinco 2 years ago
Yeah, like in a cartoon, except it's real! I used to ride this line every day. In the beginning I laughed about it, but after awhile, become a sardine didn't seem so funny. It's not this crowded now, although it's still crowded. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
That squeaking at the beginning o.o'''
Kari166 2 years ago
Oh yeah - the brakes. This type of train car had brake shoes that clamped down on the external wheel surfaces to stop. I think most (maybe all), of the trains now have disk brakes with huge calipers between the wheels. Those are quieter I think. Also the heavy load of the train probably helps produce noise - it must take a lot of braking power to stop the thing with so many people aboard! - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
I guess this is what it would be like if American Airlines operated trains! lol
stevendwyer2007 2 years ago
ya，very homonious,no complain,right.
isince1985 2 years ago
Complaining doesn't help. If the passengers began complaining, it would make the train even later. If they didn't do some pushing to get on, they would be late for work - very late, as the next and the next and the next trains are also crowded. It has gotten better though. This is in 1991 - it's less crowded in 2009. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
y si alguno se quiere bajar en la siguiente estacion? xD ajajajaja
cristopherbkn 2 years ago
Re: "and if anyone wants to get off at the next station? xD ajajajaja"
Well, in this case, everyone is headed to Ikebukuro, the last stop on the line, and there is only one more stop before there - Shakujikoen. Naturally, no one can get on at that front door in Shakujikoen! Normally, if you say "Orimasu! - Orimasu! - Orimasu!" ("I'm getting off! - I'm getting off! - I'm getting off"" then people will get off once to let you off, and then get back on after that. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
You didnt do this video
HabTasianet 2 years ago
As a matter of fact I did. It was stolen from me and copied all over the Internet, but I took the bloody thing. I can prove it too. Since you seem to believe that some thief or other is the proper owner, please tell me who this thief is, I'd like to contact the police and shut down their illegal and stolen copy of my video. - LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
I think he means it when he says he owns the video. Look at the audio/video quality of this: far superior than other Youtube ripoff. It also is a couple seconds longer than the other ones.
tony0964 2 years ago
Re: "I think he means it when he says he owns the video."
Yes, thank you. I *did* take this. For more proof, see "Morning Tokyo Trains in 1991", which includes many scenes from the same morning, including some bits from this clip.
LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
no me lo creo, me suena a tongo jajajaja
sephirot121 2 years ago
Si tongo es tu viejo imbecil, q' es lo q' no crees ?
†
Gollumnova 2 years ago
LOL...
type "Indian Train" into the search...It's the red and yellow train...You'll know which one I mean.
OrionSyndicate 3 years ago
I would rather ride on the roof, like in India.
OrionSyndicate 3 years ago
I rode this line every day for about sixteen years - I often thought exactly that! The other thing I thought while smashed inside like a sardine, is that I would like to climb up onto the overhead luggage rack and lie down! - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
это даже круче чем у нас))))
SlevinGlevera 3 years ago
вот бы у нас менты так помогали по утрам )
anarchonism 2 years ago
Re: "now we have ways to help both in the morning"
Not sure what that means. Do you mean that you have people to help shove people on the trains in Russia too?
LHS
lylehsaxon 2 years ago
lol watching this vid...influencing me not to go to japan... =) dont get me wrong i think jap is cool i love their language and their tradition and culture owh dont forget the food yummm =p sushi....
GoShitSomewhereElse 3 years ago
Well, the trains aren't usually quite this bad. I ride in packed trains every day, but usually there are only three or four people touching me at a time (not joking). In a train like in this video, if you count every elbow, shoulder, etc., it can be seven or eight at a time. If you visit as a tourist, usually you can avoid the sardine trains by staying off commuter lines early in the morning, etc. - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
so in this video...it usually happen in the morning? wht about noon? evening? =) is there any less crowded way to travel to tokyo
GoShitSomewhereElse 3 years ago
The morning is the worst. In the afternoon, you might even be able to sit down, but even if you have to stand, you would have some space around you. The evening is crowded, but usually not as bad as in the morning...except for a last train on a Friday night! Those can be really bad too! Also remember that this video I took in 1991 - it's gotten less crowded since there due to more trains and flex time at companies. - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
Don't worry.. I've been there for almost a month and never got in trains this packed.
You just have to avoid rush hours.
Also, most trains aren't like that.
And to tell the truth, even if I had to face such conditions there, I'd still recommend for you to go... it was the best tourism experience I've even had.
XSportSeeker 3 years ago
What if you want to get off the train at the next stop and you are far away from the door?
JohnRinNoHo 3 years ago
You push while saying "Orimasu... orimasu... orimasu..." (I'm getting off... I'm getting off...") and people will (temporarily) get off the train so people can get out. In the case of this video, it's around 7:50 a.m. and everyone is headed into central Tokyo. There is only one more stop (Shakujikoen) between this station (Hibarigaoka) and the terminal station Ikebukuro, so everyone's headed to the same station. (I know this line well - I used to ride it every day... for 16 years!) - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
i'm shure that if u are in a position like this and u got to poo...ir wont be very nice xD
kakapusa 3 years ago
LOL LOL
defplayryalpfed 3 years ago
classic video, excellent upload
mychancaca 3 years ago
Thanks! The thing I regret about it though, is that it's been copied all over the net with weird titles and wrong information. I rescued this from the original 8mm tape I used to "film" it just in time, as the tapes are beginning to deteriorate after 17 (almost 18 now) years. - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
結構すごいよね。東京に行ったことあるけど、佐賀に住んでいるから、そんなにひどくない。Nice video ^_^
ssjoel3k 3 years ago
どうも！ 1991年の方が大変でした！ 今は、込んでいるけど、このビデオほどじゃない。
Yeah, it really was tough riding that train into central Tokyo every day in 1991. Now it's still crowded (there are 30,000,000 people in the greater Tokyo area after all!), but not nearly so bad as in this video. - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
I hope nobody suffered any cracked/broken ribs as a result of all the pushing. That has to be one brutal daily commute way back in the early 1990's. O_O
houndourtwo 3 years ago
I worried about that once when I was up against the door and people were smashing onto the train from the opposite side. - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
The other thing that would happen, is people would be leaning way over the people sitting down, or sometimes fall on top of them! (Meant to say more last night, but I fell asleep in front of the computer.) - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
i'd rather just be 10 mins late for work than try to fit in there...
chrisknows 3 years ago
Yeah - me too! And that's the way most people feel with flex time now. But in 1991, when this was taken, companies didn't have flex time and they very strict about people being on time to work (penalties for being late, etc.), so people were happier to suffer as sardines than to suffer the wrath of angry bosses and lost pay. - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
I've heard that the express trains on the Seibu-Ikebukuro Line used to be really bad - now I know it's true! They're still crowded, but nothing like this!
HP1212555 3 years ago
Right. In fact I have a video taken this year (2008) that shows the same spot on the same platform at the same time of day and the same situation of an express train passing another train - see "Less Crowded in 2008" - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
面白いと思います。これ、どこで取りましたか？
Atsuke 3 years ago
すみません、漢字が間違ってしまった。
取りました⇒撮りました
Atsuke 3 years ago
It was taken at Hibarigaoka Station on the Seibu-Ikebukuro Line in 1991. - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
damn why they just take another train..
isik2408 3 years ago
In 1991 (when this was taken), there was no flex-time and so if you took the last express (the train on the left is an Express and the one of the right a slower "Junkyu") that would get you to work on time, you either got on that specific train or you were late to work. Not all trains were this crowded of course - this was the peak of the rush period. - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
I can see why not much people go on the train in 2008
DavidMcbadbad 3 years ago
ROFL! i never go by train there you will die in there.
rangerinthehood 3 years ago
Well, I took this in 1991 - it's gotten better with flex-time and more trains, more lines, etc. But at the time, I used to be packed into a train like in the video and think "This is no way for human beings to live!". Fortunately, the locals didn't like it either and they've improved the system. Also, this is during the morning rush - if you avoid that, the train system is actually really good - although you have to stand most of the time... - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
fake
synthesized 3 years ago
Actually no - it's real. I know because I took it. It's not so crowded on all trains and not so crowded at all times and not this crowded now, but it was crowded like that every weekday on that line at that time of day (about 7:50 a.m.) in 1991, when I took that video. I often rode on that sucker myself... it's real dude - it's very real. - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
Something is trapped in the doors at 1:39.
AppleOranges12 3 years ago
Somebody's coat. That happens sometimes. Usually you can pull it back in, but if you can't, and the doors open on the other side of the train at the station you want to get off at.... - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
they were packed like sardines
FaboArgento 3 years ago
Yes - and still are sometimes, but not as tightly as in this video. Still, if the trains are running late for some reason, it can still get pretty intense.... - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
Lol .. mainichi daihen desu
Strifedaniel 3 years ago
Mattku desu ne! Sometimes I wish I could ride on the roof! - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
Excuse me, is this seat taken?
rha101 3 years ago
"all aboard!"
josphe72 3 years ago
Howly cow ....
imamage 3 years ago 2
i know! what the fuck!!!
akerockstar 3 years ago
This should be way more popular than the other video.
BritishWizard 3 years ago 2
What happened is I first posted this video at Google-Video. It was copied from there, and the first person who posted a copy version after that at YouTube ended up getting over a million hits. Once I realized that everyone looks at YouTube and not Google Video, I (belatedly) posted it a second time here. I'm not real happy about the situation, especially since none of the other sites explain things properly.... - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
You can ask it be taken down from where you did not put it up.
SummitAP 3 years ago
esto parece madrid en estado puro pero sin guardias para empujar
Enkispain 3 years ago
Like Madrid huh? But those are *not* guards! Two are the drivers of the trains and the others are either station employees or part-time workers. - LHS
lylehsaxon 3 years ago
omg.
Oshinova 3 years ago