Not cool, man. I know that Bear Grylls is kinda fake but I'm still a huge fan of his show and it's not for you to judge him. He didn't kill anyone, people chose to copy. I really liked your video and you're an extremely good instructor but you can't discredit people like that. I mean, he does whatever he wants it's not like he's dishonest.
@malslimbo It's not about points or likeability. It's about getting real info to real people who will use it. Respect is earned, and not necessarily recipricol. Good luck with your skills development.
Good vid, but big points lost for the Les Stroud comment at the end. I have utmost respect for Les. Are you really so ignorant to think that Les doesn't know how to make a great debris hut? I'll bet he has more knowledge about survival than you. He doesn't have the time to make the perfect shelter with all the other stuff he does all by himself. Lets see you film an entire show while surviving in the wild with no help from a camera crew. I agree with you with you about Bear Grylls.
@tecnolover2642 It's not about point or likeability. It's about getting real info to real people who will use it. Respect is earned, and not necessarily recipricol. Good luck with your skills development.
@tecnolover2642 I think you need to keep in mind it's not necessarily an attack on Les Stroud or Bear Grylls and more a matter of how the show is packaged, edited, etc, to remove the mundane aspects of survival. No doubt in my mind that any of the survivalists on tv could actually survive most situations, but have a feeling they'd do it differently then the theatrical presentation for tv. I like all the shows, learn some things from all, but also take some with a grain of salt.
Great video. I loved the snarky comments at the end. Living in the pacific northwest the debris is usually wet. Any suggestions on using wet material?
@trentmorr Yes, it's difficult on the Olympic Penninsula, but can be achieved. I used LOTS of vine maple (interior debris bed) & lichen/moss/leaf mix (outside walls) under an existing fallen log as my ridge pole/overhead biomass to help stay warm. The logs, as you know, are massive, & really help w/ heat retention, even when your wet. Your ribs are used to seal in the sides before adding the debris. W/ the right tolerances, you'll stay warm AND dry out in your shelter. Works like gore-tex.
I don't have a problem taking a pot-shot at good ol' Bear and Les. I personally love those guys as a great couple hours entertainment with my ripple chips 'n dip. And they make for excellent talking points on what actually works and what will get you killed. Nice job P.S. I like the vids.
i liked the vids until he decided to take a jab at bear. not a fanboy at all but seems like he's a little butthurt he doesnt have a tv show, seriously whats the point? you can discredit people much easier than making it so obvious you had to write that little zinger into your dialogue. keep it classy
@bufoot19 Classy? No. I'm not hollywood. I'd rather keep it real. I would hope some folks would would give me the same if I started demonstrating actions that would get folks killed in the guise of survival skills. Not hurt at all, between running classes and tending the gardens and animals, barely have enough time to spend w/ the family as it is. If t.v. wants a show they can come out, but they'd be bored. Action foraging, stunt bird language, it just isn't in the cards.
@primitiveskills that was my point, why waste your time? I found your vids very informative but the extra comment just seemed a bit unnecessary. like i said before you can discredit him easily pointing out what he did wrong without it, just seemed like you were trying too hard. more often what's effective is boring to watch and doesnt make for entertaining tv.
I dont care if you poke fun at bear grils as he is an entertainer and should be looked at as such. However I am curious, first off, as to how you would create your debris hut if you were in the same place and in the same season as the episode of survivorman you had referred too in this video?. What would you have done differently given the same circumstances?.
@lard33333 Conductivity was the maine culprit in Les losing his body heat. Sitting, or worse, laying in an Aluminum aircraft hull on dense ice mimicked the conditions we try to duplicate to keep beer cold. Cunduction is the main reason you would want to get off the ground and get insulated. Any part of that crafts skin could be made in to a shovel and crude chopping device for delimbing the forest of black spruce where he trapped the rabbit. (To be continued on next post)
The limbs would be use to get you off the snow. Snow, a better insulator than ice due to it's porosity, conditions compresses & radiating body heat cause it to melt and refreez if you are laying on it. Boughs are also used to create a barrier between you and the layers of insulating snow you puile on top of your shelter. Unless you're going to build a quinzee (we have a how-to vid on that) the snow debris hut is the easiest, most effective option. We have a how-to vid on that too.
I dont really understand why you make a dig at "british" people... Even though i have never met a single person in "britain" who classes themselves as "british" :) Im ENGLISH and i thought it was a great video... :P
I want to point out that Bear is probably forced into a little showman ship by the producers. that being said, sometimes it is necessary to take a risky maneuver. If you notice, he shows how to get through them. I really like this channel though, You guys are the real experts!!
@llHyRaXll Site selection is key to avoiding most insect hazards. Smudging the interior drives off the rest. For mosquitos and blackflies, an igloo door and door plug helpa great deal.
@primitiveskills also by clearing debris and leaves away from your shelter acts as a bug repel-ant, as insects do not like to cross long expanses of open area.
Good vid, great school too! I live on the coast (midcoast) and hope to get up your way at some point for a class or two. Keep up the good work guys and have fun with the snow tomorrow.. who'd a thought..
I'm honestly glad you called out Les and Bear, watching their shows, I can spot many mistakes or wastes of energy and time. Bear more so then Les, mind you. Bear just overkills the situation and does way too much stupid and takes way too many risky actions. At least Les is more sensible. But anyway, good video, very informative. I do a lot of "Survival Camping" myself, going into the woods with the bare minimum for about a week. In fact, i'm going out tomorrow! I'll be giving this a try!
I'm honestly glad you called out Les and Bear, watching their shows, I can spot many mistakes or wastes of energy and time. Bear more so then Les, mind you. Bear just overkills the situation and does way too much stupid and takes way too many risky actions. At least Les is more sensible. But anyway, good video, very informative. I do a lot of "Survival Camping" myself, going into the woods with the bare minimum for about a week. In fact, i'm going out tomorrow! I'll be giving this a try!
Badmouthing someone is considered "black magic" by some cultures because of how hurtful it can be. The same goes for putting someone "on a pedastal." It is a duty to point out someones weakness to help them improve, but tell THEM, not hold an argument in a public setting/forum. Keep in mind also that a lot of people "know their stuff" enough to survive, but that is different than primitive living. Safe journeys and Semper Fi.
Hmmm...I am jealous that I'm not on t.v., but only after I think about what that might mean! The bad information & lack of depth that these characters perpetuate for "entertainment purposes only" is harmful. It was "really necessary" to point out that this consumer entertainment is far from accurate with regards to thriving in a natural environment. Many folks believe all they have to do is watch a man squeeze moisture out of elephant dung and they know a valid survival technique. Silly!
@primitiveskills, still doesn't mean you have to bad-mouth them. Bear has climbed Everest, along with a lot of things you haven't. Having myself spent 14 years in the U.S. Army, I completed several survival courses and consider that I know my stuff. Bear and Les also train survival classes and although not as good as Mears, they still know their stuff. It shows weakness of character to bad-mouth others! Didn't you mother ever tell you that when you have nothing good to say, don't say anything?
As a former Marine Survival Instructor I can tell you you really don't know your stuff. Having said that, & with 23 ys. supporting my fam w/ this, nor do I. Saying you "know something" means no room for learning. While I admire your loyalty to these 2, I question your eagerness to overlook the real & present harm done by misleading millions of viewers w/ innacurate survival techniques. It seems you would rather focus on "pleasantries" than dispelling the trash & learning what really works.
@primitiveskills, if you have been supporting your family with doing vids, I feel very sorry for you! I merely stated that you don't need to bad-mouth other people; it shows weakness of character, something I guess the Marines didn't teach you... p.s. I really do know my "stuff", trust me.
@stopthesejets No, the vids are just instructional. The School is the Maine Primitive Skills School. You should come up some time. We do full survival trips every year. I'll even let you bring a knife (though it would be cheating). If you know your stuff, I would be eager to learn from you. I'm still learning every day. Would love to share! Won't be available in April, heading to the coast to work with some folks on survival skills for a couple of weeks. May would be great though.
@primitiveskills you should never ingest feaces of any animals it contains parasites and you could get dysentery you should boil all suspect water so if anyone listens to what bear gryls says they are dead but then whoever listens to that waste of life is a dumbass and deserves a tapeworm lol by the way having a knife with you is definitly not cheating
@thenofxer why take risks when there are other better alternatives if you think thats the best survival technique for you i dont mind thats your opinion just try not to cry when your dying of a poo attack
@7obscenity7 Yeah, its barely surviving here in alaska. i Know how to fish and make a water filter system. I dont put my self in those situations, i just think it is entertaining and a little insightful watching Bear do it. I like the show i guess, and it can be helpful. its important to filter any info you get for truth and exageration.
@Rhinoch8 Smudging and occupying the shelter are the best means of avoiding unwanted guests. Here the biggest nusiance animals are ants, but only after the debris hut has been abandoned for a few months. The rest can be eaten or used as bait.
@forum8417 Yes. Higher is drier. Though technically more difficult, you can build this shelter on an elevated platform. This approach is useful in rainforests and swamps as well as areas rich in venomous insects, spiders, and snakes (not to mention escape and evasion). There is a great illustration of this at the School website that Tom Brown III is involved with. Having a name block but I will get back to you on the name and web addy as they are a valuable resource for the community.
Hoestly, I feel "debris HUT" is kinda misleading. A hut is a structure built to accomodate one or more for a prolonged period (from weeks to years). This apppears to be more of a transitional shelter. But thats just a minor nitpick.
@bullseye887 Thank you for your interest in our videos! We get that question a lot. The structure is comprised of triangles and an arch of debris. You can stand on the top of a properly made debris hut and it will notcollapse. This is illustrated in our "Wilderness Survival Shelter-Debris Hut Myths" video. "youtube.com/watch?v=lC_SQo7O18s"
@HippyElliott Please elaborate! We would love to hear from your direct experience what shelter design makes the debris hut obsolete. We are always looking for insights to improve thousands of years of experience and applied thermal dynamics. Looking forward to hearing of your experiences.
I have only been a student of these skills for 32 of my 43 yrs. They are handed down, not through text books or even videos, but hard earned experiences, generations of mentoring, and intentional communities who's proficiency in these skills/learning curve was invested directly in to the next generation. That we are here, albeit tenaceously, is evidence that this shelter design was honed by folks who spent far more time in their environment than the most avid of modern outdoorsmen.
@primitiveskills im sure somethings must have been forgotten along the way. kinda like chinese whispers. start with something like "get eggs milk and butter" and end up with some buiscuits shaped like radios, a map of kairo and an ice pick. all that time and thats the best they could do! id have discovered brick by then and build a house.
Adobe & other survival cements have been around for a long time. We share making structures w/ these technologies as well. The debris hut's a transitionary shelter/ survival shelter depending on how familliar you are with the landscape. If your skills are lacking, you'll want to return to an artificial environment because you will be suffering and doing damage to your surroundings. If your skills are developed enough, than "survival" becomes "earth living", a comfortable and stable state.
@MrPrivatetv1 True. But it's not so much their skill level as I believe it is the producers wanting something more exciting than a person flourishing in the wild without tools. Why else would someone suck moisture out of elephant dung when they could gather distilled water from the dew on the grass? Just a little frustrating that real skill sets aren't being shared and folks are being fed hollywood glitz.
@TheGeminiLounge Insects aren't usually a problem. Caution and awareness around ground nests of yellow jackets and ant mounds is important when deciding a location, but the occasional spider, or "creepy crawly" is easily ignored or gently brushed away.
1. Eat them. You can eat any 6 legged bug without fear of getting sick, poisoned, etc.
2. You can be normal and just brush them off....after all, you are in the woods. You will see bugs.
I would suggest saving the bugs you find and bringing them home. Then you can throw them in your blender with some apple juice and make a cocktail. Maybe add some maple syrup in there for sweetness and your golden!
@vallonia Excellent question! Because the shelter relies on your radiant body heat being trapped around you, you not only stay warm, but as the heat slowly permeates through the debris, it begins to dry you out. The effect is more dramatic the colder it is, as the difference in temperature seems to make the drying process more dramatic.
also do you have knowledge of building a larger shelter such as a hut or teepee with just using primitive items from the forest, something that will last a entire season such as winter snowfall or spring showers? Also are high altitudes better than lets say towards the bottom of a major hill or mountain because of the runoff? Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, much appreciated!!
Yes, our normal progression is a debris hut for the first few days, then a work room extension for the next two weeks, then seasonal shelters located along migratory routes. Bark shelters and grass huts are the norm, but cob and log shelters are also available. The bark hut is hown in our birch video, & we're nearly done w/ the grass hut vid. Higher is drier w/ respect to fire ad shelter, w/ a southern exposure, and in a transition area.
question, what if you build one of these successfully and there is a snowfall, would it further insulate it or would the shear weight of the snow collapse it?
@REDSOXNYG Good question regarding the effect of heavy snow on the debris hut. The snow adds to the insulation properties, and, as it settles, strengthens the structure, as it is basically comprised of an arch of snow supported by an arch of debris, supported by triangles. Check out our snow debris hut video.
@REDSOXNYG well built debris huts are hard to demolish once in place for a while. I have removed ridgepoles and still been unable to make them collapse. Snow, as you rightly say, adds to the value of the debris hut. There is one rather irritating drawback however. With no heat source other than the occupant, the ground will freeze in cold weather sometimes thrusting ice crystals up into the sleeping area. If you plan for this though, boughs and grass mats can still make the shelter work.
@swordsman181 The interior has to be small in order to function properly. It is designed to keep you warm well below zero w/o need of a fire by capturing your radiant body heat. It also dries you out from the same. So, w/o a fire, knife, rope or the need to defoliate an area, your shelter can be built of wet debris, you can climb in wet, have the temp. drop below freezing, & come out the next morning alive and dry...w/ practice or under the eye of an experienced practitioner the first time.
What if you fart inside your debris hut, where is it going to go? Or what about that morning wood all us guys experience on a daily basis? I don't know about you but I sure don't want a stick in my pee hole! These are just a few concerns I have about this kinda shelter, may thee almighty Thor bless you.
Maine has no venomous snakes. In areas where they exist, follow normal protocols. Folks with phobias even build elevated platforms, primitive or modern.
@ArtOfAvalon I agree, that last bit was in bad taste. It is hard to call someone who climbed Mt. Everest (after a broken back) at a record breaking young age a novice with survival skills. In a pinch, most people will not have a half a day to build the perfect shelter in a survival situation. If a busted up plane is all you have, than you use it and improve the situation when and how you can.
@ArtOfAvalon It is not directed to all British people it is directed towards one dork in particular. Think about it and maybe you'll understand the dig.
@ivageivage The Debris hut is preferred where there are deciduous forests, it's a more efficient way to stay warm & dry than a lean to (which requires an external heat source) The thick leaf walls retain radiant bodyheat, shed wind and rain, and "breath", allowing existing moisture to evaporate out and away from you if you or your materials are already wet. The downside is it takes practice to build one correctly. Biggest mistakes: Door too big, too roomy, not enough leaf litter beneath you.
Mike this is one of the best debris hut videos I have seen. I take my hat off to you. I am looking forward to watching the rest of your videos. Thanks for sharing.
les stroud is the only real "cable tv" survivor guid. Seeing as how he does it all on his own without camera crews and no one there with him. If I were to ever take a survivor course he would definently be my first choice.
Now, Is it really Bashing IF the Information given can save you life?
Watching TV seeing good ol Bear and Les out there doing what they are getting payed to do is all very good Entertainment and I love both shows, BUT if I am stuck out over night or longer I want to Live, So some tv show star isn't coming to help me knowing what to do can and will save your life.....
The ridge pole and ridge pole supports are to flimsy, they will both collapse in a good rain or snow when your leaves get wet and heavy ( you also don't have enough leaves ). I speak from many years of experience. Also seems a bit snug for guy of your size, could be my angle of view, but seems tight to me. If you tuck you pants into your socks at night it will keep bugs from crawling up your legs. This type of shelter, when made well, can save your life.
@mlcoo17 Valid but inaccurate concerns. We actually stood on this shelter, as we have done in every class for the last twenty four years, to show how stable it is. We also pour a five gallon bucket of water over the top to test water tightness. Our classes often visit a year old debris hut built to the same specs to demonstrate how water tight they remain after weathering a New England winter and settling. Good motivation, keep practicing, and hope to see you on the trail!
@mlcoo17 Thank you for the motivation to produce a video addressing these concerns! I think you will see that all that you have stated is touched upon. Please see "Wilderness Survival Shelter-Debris Hut Myths".
@bennyboyshaw This is a joke by the way, just kidding about the take the piss thing, your videos are great and you're completely correct about air space in a shelter, keep 'em coming : )
Great video! I run a school in VA and I like your rafter concept. With over 20 years of combined SAR and Military training I have never seen that used. Very interesting. I would disagree on one point. With practice this shelter should be able to be constructed in an hour. Depending on resources or course. Great job on the video! If people practice what you have shared in this video, they will learn a skill that could very well save their life one day.
In these wods ticks are more common to edge areas and grasses/forbes. The notable exception would be in overpopulated bedding areas or larders for mice, the deer ticks primary host. Good question, thanks!
Thankfully, a course of common antibiotics administered in the first two weeks of symptoms can stop Lyme's Disease prior to any real serious consequences.
@derdagian1 I heard if you rub sugar water all over yourself before you crawl into that "structure"...them ticks ain't gonna bother ya anymore. hehe ;D
no apologies. lack of real dirt time kills folks. Too many people, including myself, get humbled hard when they think they know something. I'm bashing the lack of working information presented as fact. I'm adverse to situations that get folks killed 'cause they think they know it by watching videos, these included. Bear & Les are drumming up interest, but much of what is presented can lead folks to the wrong course of action.
I agree. A lot of people watching those shows are learning really bad skills. Les, I think, not so much. But, Bear Grylls would be a deadly example to follow.
@foreverwild1775 - Funny how easy you get offended by something simple like the poster referencing man v wild and survivor man.. get real and grow some thicker skin..
i told bear grylls about this and lets just say he isnt best pleased! ...infact, he's fucking raging! he told me to tell you that he is currently on his way to maine for a survival-off followed by a fight to the death...using only sharpened sticks.
round one involves standing in a freezing lake up to your balls. first one to make a girly sound loses.
good video, glad you covered it more fully. I've seen other debris shelter videos not cover the ground cover and having suffered thru a sub-freezing situation without good ground insulation, it is really vital to get that part right! Learned a lot, thanks!
The ticks aren't as common in leafy areas as they are in grasses and areas with herbacious plants. As in any areas, basic tick awareness and routines will keep you safe. Thanks for the question.
Good Point. Was commenting on the "entertainment" disguised as information that could get folks killed. We lose people in Maine every year because they "beieve" they know what to do without the direct experience. The "reality" shows perpetuate alot of this. I respect Les for showing his mistakes, and Bear for getting folks interested. Our focus is on what works based on first hand experience. Our staff has spent weeks at a time in their debris huts in all 4 seasons. Thanks for your view.
ya, if you cut enough branches from trees. pine is one of the driest trees. at the paintball field i work at the long needles are so soft (isolation) and bruce spruce are oily and interlapping so good waterproofing a tarp would help you too.
Why is there always arguments about bear and les stroud on these kinds of videos. Bear is shit, everything is staged on his show. Les is legit. But still, there is a difference between TV experts and real experts that teach. I think Les is great, but its obvious that he is not the greatest at finding things like food. But in a short term survival scenario, food is not importnat.
Remember, the two most important killers in the bush are hypo/hyperthermia and dehydration. Check out Cody Lundin
Les Stroud is, in his own words, NOT AND EXPERT AT ALL. He likes to live green and hike with his family. What his shows portray is an average person doing what they need to do to get through a hard time with little skill. Yes he get instruction from local survivalists and guides. He lives in southern Ontario and doesnt have to deal with scorpions regularly. Food and animals are easier to get up here so survival is Easier.
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wetmittens0 1 week ago
OMG this is awesome... i'm planing to live in the jungles XD
danie2332123 1 week ago
Thanks for the video! I thought the ending was funny btw.
adamborg1 3 weeks ago
dude your shelther may be warm but it takes to much energy geting the stick together unless thats ur home
georgebosch22 3 weeks ago
Not cool, man. I know that Bear Grylls is kinda fake but I'm still a huge fan of his show and it's not for you to judge him. He didn't kill anyone, people chose to copy. I really liked your video and you're an extremely good instructor but you can't discredit people like that. I mean, he does whatever he wants it's not like he's dishonest.
malslimbo 1 month ago
@malslimbo It's like the last bit just killed your whole instructive spirit. I mean that was really bad.
malslimbo 1 month ago
@malslimbo It's not about points or likeability. It's about getting real info to real people who will use it. Respect is earned, and not necessarily recipricol. Good luck with your skills development.
primitiveskills 3 weeks ago
@malslimbo I think this primitive skills guy totally knows his skills. Hes just not a nice person, mean spirited in a way. I like bear grylls.
LesRamboGrylls 3 weeks ago
Good vid, but big points lost for the Les Stroud comment at the end. I have utmost respect for Les. Are you really so ignorant to think that Les doesn't know how to make a great debris hut? I'll bet he has more knowledge about survival than you. He doesn't have the time to make the perfect shelter with all the other stuff he does all by himself. Lets see you film an entire show while surviving in the wild with no help from a camera crew. I agree with you with you about Bear Grylls.
tecnolover2642 1 month ago 2
@tecnolover2642 It's not about point or likeability. It's about getting real info to real people who will use it. Respect is earned, and not necessarily recipricol. Good luck with your skills development.
primitiveskills 1 month ago
@tecnolover2642 I think you need to keep in mind it's not necessarily an attack on Les Stroud or Bear Grylls and more a matter of how the show is packaged, edited, etc, to remove the mundane aspects of survival. No doubt in my mind that any of the survivalists on tv could actually survive most situations, but have a feeling they'd do it differently then the theatrical presentation for tv. I like all the shows, learn some things from all, but also take some with a grain of salt.
misterblue66 1 month ago
Great video. I loved the snarky comments at the end. Living in the pacific northwest the debris is usually wet. Any suggestions on using wet material?
trentmorr 2 months ago
@trentmorr Yes, it's difficult on the Olympic Penninsula, but can be achieved. I used LOTS of vine maple (interior debris bed) & lichen/moss/leaf mix (outside walls) under an existing fallen log as my ridge pole/overhead biomass to help stay warm. The logs, as you know, are massive, & really help w/ heat retention, even when your wet. Your ribs are used to seal in the sides before adding the debris. W/ the right tolerances, you'll stay warm AND dry out in your shelter. Works like gore-tex.
primitiveskills 2 months ago
Wow. Fake reality programming really has a hold on some of these people. Thank you for the real info you share sir.
Jaboie 2 months ago
I like this video. It would be better if you had a SOG on your waist.
mrfadeaway45 3 months ago
I don't have a problem taking a pot-shot at good ol' Bear and Les. I personally love those guys as a great couple hours entertainment with my ripple chips 'n dip. And they make for excellent talking points on what actually works and what will get you killed. Nice job P.S. I like the vids.
outdoorsurvivaltv 3 months ago
i liked the vids until he decided to take a jab at bear. not a fanboy at all but seems like he's a little butthurt he doesnt have a tv show, seriously whats the point? you can discredit people much easier than making it so obvious you had to write that little zinger into your dialogue. keep it classy
bufoot19 3 months ago 6
@bufoot19 Classy? No. I'm not hollywood. I'd rather keep it real. I would hope some folks would would give me the same if I started demonstrating actions that would get folks killed in the guise of survival skills. Not hurt at all, between running classes and tending the gardens and animals, barely have enough time to spend w/ the family as it is. If t.v. wants a show they can come out, but they'd be bored. Action foraging, stunt bird language, it just isn't in the cards.
primitiveskills 3 months ago
@primitiveskills that was my point, why waste your time? I found your vids very informative but the extra comment just seemed a bit unnecessary. like i said before you can discredit him easily pointing out what he did wrong without it, just seemed like you were trying too hard. more often what's effective is boring to watch and doesnt make for entertaining tv.
bufoot19 3 months ago
I really liked this till he became a snob at the end.
cheskamouse 4 months ago
9:35 BURN!
DeimosSaturn 5 months ago
Nice!!
My channal stusf12
stusf12 6 months ago
ill huff and ill puff and blow your shelter down
bobbj77 6 months ago
@bobbj77 We get that alot! So much so that we've made a video addressing such myths! Check out our Debris Hut Myths" vid!
primitiveskills 6 months ago
I dont care if you poke fun at bear grils as he is an entertainer and should be looked at as such. However I am curious, first off, as to how you would create your debris hut if you were in the same place and in the same season as the episode of survivorman you had referred too in this video?. What would you have done differently given the same circumstances?.
lard33333 7 months ago
@lard33333 Conductivity was the maine culprit in Les losing his body heat. Sitting, or worse, laying in an Aluminum aircraft hull on dense ice mimicked the conditions we try to duplicate to keep beer cold. Cunduction is the main reason you would want to get off the ground and get insulated. Any part of that crafts skin could be made in to a shovel and crude chopping device for delimbing the forest of black spruce where he trapped the rabbit. (To be continued on next post)
primitiveskills 7 months ago
@primitiveskills learn to spell you primitive idiot, bear is spelled bear, not beer, like you're a drunk.
MLBbornupstateNY 5 months ago
The limbs would be use to get you off the snow. Snow, a better insulator than ice due to it's porosity, conditions compresses & radiating body heat cause it to melt and refreez if you are laying on it. Boughs are also used to create a barrier between you and the layers of insulating snow you puile on top of your shelter. Unless you're going to build a quinzee (we have a how-to vid on that) the snow debris hut is the easiest, most effective option. We have a how-to vid on that too.
primitiveskills 7 months ago 2
I dont really understand why you make a dig at "british" people... Even though i have never met a single person in "britain" who classes themselves as "british" :) Im ENGLISH and i thought it was a great video... :P
UKSHTFSurvival 7 months ago
@UKSHTFSurvival But if you meant bear grylls then he is hardly a survival expert lol just a glorified boy scout turned celeb... ;)
UKSHTFSurvival 7 months ago
@UKSHTFSurvival
that was an insult to scouts everywhere! XD
MyrStevens8080 3 months ago
Your shelter is beast
daboodeef179 8 months ago
I want to point out that Bear is probably forced into a little showman ship by the producers. that being said, sometimes it is necessary to take a risky maneuver. If you notice, he shows how to get through them. I really like this channel though, You guys are the real experts!!
thenofxer 9 months ago
ok but the when you sleep in these shelters how do you avoid getting attacked by insects like ants, wasps, centipedes etc?
llHyRaXll 9 months ago 2
@llHyRaXll Site selection is key to avoiding most insect hazards. Smudging the interior drives off the rest. For mosquitos and blackflies, an igloo door and door plug helpa great deal.
primitiveskills 8 months ago 3
@primitiveskills also by clearing debris and leaves away from your shelter acts as a bug repel-ant, as insects do not like to cross long expanses of open area.
Einstien445644 7 months ago
@primitiveskills But are you safe from snakes in these shelters
UTFRG 7 months ago
@llHyRaXll I take it you wouldn't be having a fire with this kind of shelter? Kind of looks like a cremation set-up.
gryphon37 8 months ago
oh and this is an a frame shelter btw
7obscenity7 9 months ago
Good vid, great school too! I live on the coast (midcoast) and hope to get up your way at some point for a class or two. Keep up the good work guys and have fun with the snow tomorrow.. who'd a thought..
totlich 10 months ago
I'm honestly glad you called out Les and Bear, watching their shows, I can spot many mistakes or wastes of energy and time. Bear more so then Les, mind you. Bear just overkills the situation and does way too much stupid and takes way too many risky actions. At least Les is more sensible. But anyway, good video, very informative. I do a lot of "Survival Camping" myself, going into the woods with the bare minimum for about a week. In fact, i'm going out tomorrow! I'll be giving this a try!
bhbrown91 10 months ago
@bhbrown91 hey so you go out in the woods with bare minimum for a week?? dont you get bitten by insects when you sleep on those leaves??
llHyRaXll 9 months ago
I'm honestly glad you called out Les and Bear, watching their shows, I can spot many mistakes or wastes of energy and time. Bear more so then Les, mind you. Bear just overkills the situation and does way too much stupid and takes way too many risky actions. At least Les is more sensible. But anyway, good video, very informative. I do a lot of "Survival Camping" myself, going into the woods with the bare minimum for about a week. In fact, i'm going out tomorrow! I'll be giving this a try!
bhbrown91 10 months ago
Badmouthing someone is considered "black magic" by some cultures because of how hurtful it can be. The same goes for putting someone "on a pedastal." It is a duty to point out someones weakness to help them improve, but tell THEM, not hold an argument in a public setting/forum. Keep in mind also that a lot of people "know their stuff" enough to survive, but that is different than primitive living. Safe journeys and Semper Fi.
foster0311 10 months ago
i thought your comments were funny. those tv shows are ridiculous.
arielllly94 10 months ago
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This was a great video until you started bad-mouthing both Bear and Les!
Was that really necessary?
Jealous you're not on TV?
stopthesejets 10 months ago
This was a great video until you started bad-mouthing both Bear and Les!
Was that really necessary?
Jealous you're not on TV?
stopthesejets 10 months ago
Hmmm...I am jealous that I'm not on t.v., but only after I think about what that might mean! The bad information & lack of depth that these characters perpetuate for "entertainment purposes only" is harmful. It was "really necessary" to point out that this consumer entertainment is far from accurate with regards to thriving in a natural environment. Many folks believe all they have to do is watch a man squeeze moisture out of elephant dung and they know a valid survival technique. Silly!
primitiveskills 10 months ago
@primitiveskills, still doesn't mean you have to bad-mouth them. Bear has climbed Everest, along with a lot of things you haven't. Having myself spent 14 years in the U.S. Army, I completed several survival courses and consider that I know my stuff. Bear and Les also train survival classes and although not as good as Mears, they still know their stuff. It shows weakness of character to bad-mouth others! Didn't you mother ever tell you that when you have nothing good to say, don't say anything?
stopthesejets 10 months ago
As a former Marine Survival Instructor I can tell you you really don't know your stuff. Having said that, & with 23 ys. supporting my fam w/ this, nor do I. Saying you "know something" means no room for learning. While I admire your loyalty to these 2, I question your eagerness to overlook the real & present harm done by misleading millions of viewers w/ innacurate survival techniques. It seems you would rather focus on "pleasantries" than dispelling the trash & learning what really works.
primitiveskills 10 months ago
@primitiveskills, if you have been supporting your family with doing vids, I feel very sorry for you! I merely stated that you don't need to bad-mouth other people; it shows weakness of character, something I guess the Marines didn't teach you... p.s. I really do know my "stuff", trust me.
stopthesejets 10 months ago
@stopthesejets No, the vids are just instructional. The School is the Maine Primitive Skills School. You should come up some time. We do full survival trips every year. I'll even let you bring a knife (though it would be cheating). If you know your stuff, I would be eager to learn from you. I'm still learning every day. Would love to share! Won't be available in April, heading to the coast to work with some folks on survival skills for a couple of weeks. May would be great though.
primitiveskills 10 months ago 2
@primitiveskills you should never ingest feaces of any animals it contains parasites and you could get dysentery you should boil all suspect water so if anyone listens to what bear gryls says they are dead but then whoever listens to that waste of life is a dumbass and deserves a tapeworm lol by the way having a knife with you is definitly not cheating
7obscenity7 9 months ago
@7obscenity7 Not all bowel bacteria will cause dysentery. If you really had to, elephant dung juices could give you some extra survival time.
thenofxer 9 months ago
@thenofxer why take risks when there are other better alternatives if you think thats the best survival technique for you i dont mind thats your opinion just try not to cry when your dying of a poo attack
7obscenity7 9 months ago
@7obscenity7 Yeah, its barely surviving here in alaska. i Know how to fish and make a water filter system. I dont put my self in those situations, i just think it is entertaining and a little insightful watching Bear do it. I like the show i guess, and it can be helpful. its important to filter any info you get for truth and exageration.
Sorry for the trollish comment.
thenofxer 9 months ago
What about critters nesting between the leaves?
Rhinoch8 10 months ago
@Rhinoch8 Smudging and occupying the shelter are the best means of avoiding unwanted guests. Here the biggest nusiance animals are ants, but only after the debris hut has been abandoned for a few months. The rest can be eaten or used as bait.
primitiveskills 10 months ago
@primitiveskills Also, what is the approximate life of a shelter like this? I'm making a huge one that can room two people and i'm curious abut it.
Rhinoch8 10 months ago
Can this also be done in a pine forest? Are pine needles an effective replacement to leaves?
limey3r 10 months ago
cant you make it alittle higher off the ground?
forum8417 11 months ago
@forum8417 Yes. Higher is drier. Though technically more difficult, you can build this shelter on an elevated platform. This approach is useful in rainforests and swamps as well as areas rich in venomous insects, spiders, and snakes (not to mention escape and evasion). There is a great illustration of this at the School website that Tom Brown III is involved with. Having a name block but I will get back to you on the name and web addy as they are a valuable resource for the community.
primitiveskills 11 months ago
@primitiveskills Tom Brown tracker school is very amazing from what i have been told but this man here is so far one of the best i have ever seen
thebearjewkiller1976 11 months ago
Guys, this is an excellent video. That young man already knows at his age, what most grown men don't know!
xlr8n99 11 months ago
Excellent Vidstuctional!!! Well done. Wish someone would cover smudging though.
cogrn73 11 months ago
me thinks bear voted 7 times.
cogrn73 11 months ago
dont the bugs eat u up in there?
hesmydog 11 months ago
@hesmydog Location, smudging, and a tight door plug addresses the issue of insects.
primitiveskills 11 months ago
@hesmydog I will take bug eaten over dead and frozen any day. this is not a camping tent it's a last ditch effort to save the jewels so to speak. :)
cogrn73 11 months ago
Hoestly, I feel "debris HUT" is kinda misleading. A hut is a structure built to accomodate one or more for a prolonged period (from weeks to years). This apppears to be more of a transitional shelter. But thats just a minor nitpick.
Nice vid, all in all!
TheAnon26 1 year ago
rofl what happens if it all falls on you in the middle of the night???
bullseye887 1 year ago
@bullseye887 Thank you for your interest in our videos! We get that question a lot. The structure is comprised of triangles and an arch of debris. You can stand on the top of a properly made debris hut and it will notcollapse. This is illustrated in our "Wilderness Survival Shelter-Debris Hut Myths" video. "youtube.com/watch?v=lC_SQo7O18s"
primitiveskills 1 year ago
@bullseye887 It's a pile of leaves man. you would wake up warm, dry, and uncomfortable.
cogrn73 11 months ago
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Makes good sense!
EDBO23 1 year ago
this is rubbish
HippyElliott 1 year ago
@HippyElliott Please elaborate! We would love to hear from your direct experience what shelter design makes the debris hut obsolete. We are always looking for insights to improve thousands of years of experience and applied thermal dynamics. Looking forward to hearing of your experiences.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
@primitiveskills goodness. thousands of years of experience. how old are you?
HippyElliott 1 year ago
I have only been a student of these skills for 32 of my 43 yrs. They are handed down, not through text books or even videos, but hard earned experiences, generations of mentoring, and intentional communities who's proficiency in these skills/learning curve was invested directly in to the next generation. That we are here, albeit tenaceously, is evidence that this shelter design was honed by folks who spent far more time in their environment than the most avid of modern outdoorsmen.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
@primitiveskills im sure somethings must have been forgotten along the way. kinda like chinese whispers. start with something like "get eggs milk and butter" and end up with some buiscuits shaped like radios, a map of kairo and an ice pick. all that time and thats the best they could do! id have discovered brick by then and build a house.
HippyElliott 1 year ago
Adobe & other survival cements have been around for a long time. We share making structures w/ these technologies as well. The debris hut's a transitionary shelter/ survival shelter depending on how familliar you are with the landscape. If your skills are lacking, you'll want to return to an artificial environment because you will be suffering and doing damage to your surroundings. If your skills are developed enough, than "survival" becomes "earth living", a comfortable and stable state.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
9:22 Bear Grylls and Les Stroud
MrPrivatetv1 1 year ago
@MrPrivatetv1 True. But it's not so much their skill level as I believe it is the producers wanting something more exciting than a person flourishing in the wild without tools. Why else would someone suck moisture out of elephant dung when they could gather distilled water from the dew on the grass? Just a little frustrating that real skill sets aren't being shared and folks are being fed hollywood glitz.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
very usefull vid, thanks for sharing
ChemicalMikeUK 1 year ago
That's making it right for sure.
renrakali 1 year ago
Great video and instruction, thanks
rockinglock 1 year ago
What great wisdom. I love your insight. Thanks for sharing all of your hard sought knowledge with us.
FacetsOfTruth 1 year ago
How keep the bugs off your body?? Please answer..thx
TheGeminiLounge 1 year ago
@TheGeminiLounge Insects aren't usually a problem. Caution and awareness around ground nests of yellow jackets and ant mounds is important when deciding a location, but the occasional spider, or "creepy crawly" is easily ignored or gently brushed away.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
@TheGeminiLounge you can do 2 things at that point.....
1. Eat them. You can eat any 6 legged bug without fear of getting sick, poisoned, etc.
2. You can be normal and just brush them off....after all, you are in the woods. You will see bugs.
I would suggest saving the bugs you find and bringing them home. Then you can throw them in your blender with some apple juice and make a cocktail. Maybe add some maple syrup in there for sweetness and your golden!
rachaeljessicaora 1 year ago
@TheGeminiLounge make a small fire pit in ur shelter near the door, and smoke it out real well and you'll be set!
Snowborda4life 1 year ago
i would feel like a squirrel lol
skysfallin333 1 year ago
@skysfallin333 I imagine the idea was borrowed from the little critter. :)
cogrn73 11 months ago
I wanna be trained by you..best debtris hut ever!!
TheGeminiLounge 1 year ago
Yours is one of the first debris hut videos I've seen that will actually work. Great job!
skecanj 1 year ago
PS - I'm a Tom Brown student.
skecanj 1 year ago
What if the leaves are soaking wet?
vallonia 1 year ago
@vallonia Excellent question! Because the shelter relies on your radiant body heat being trapped around you, you not only stay warm, but as the heat slowly permeates through the debris, it begins to dry you out. The effect is more dramatic the colder it is, as the difference in temperature seems to make the drying process more dramatic.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
@vallonia With enough inulation it still keeps u warm, you are just wet and warm.
cogrn73 11 months ago
i did this and i was covered with ticks
chrisdeli7158 1 year ago
@chrisdeli7158 Bummer...
cogrn73 11 months ago
the part where you roast bear grylls is the best.
SkateIslam 1 year ago
Nice shelter. I heard a shotgun fire at 6:49.
dannyoif 1 year ago
also do you have knowledge of building a larger shelter such as a hut or teepee with just using primitive items from the forest, something that will last a entire season such as winter snowfall or spring showers? Also are high altitudes better than lets say towards the bottom of a major hill or mountain because of the runoff? Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, much appreciated!!
REDSOXNYG 1 year ago
Yes, our normal progression is a debris hut for the first few days, then a work room extension for the next two weeks, then seasonal shelters located along migratory routes. Bark shelters and grass huts are the norm, but cob and log shelters are also available. The bark hut is hown in our birch video, & we're nearly done w/ the grass hut vid. Higher is drier w/ respect to fire ad shelter, w/ a southern exposure, and in a transition area.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
question, what if you build one of these successfully and there is a snowfall, would it further insulate it or would the shear weight of the snow collapse it?
REDSOXNYG 1 year ago
@REDSOXNYG Good question regarding the effect of heavy snow on the debris hut. The snow adds to the insulation properties, and, as it settles, strengthens the structure, as it is basically comprised of an arch of snow supported by an arch of debris, supported by triangles. Check out our snow debris hut video.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
@primitiveskills Thank you very much for the information
REDSOXNYG 1 year ago
@REDSOXNYG well built debris huts are hard to demolish once in place for a while. I have removed ridgepoles and still been unable to make them collapse. Snow, as you rightly say, adds to the value of the debris hut. There is one rather irritating drawback however. With no heat source other than the occupant, the ground will freeze in cold weather sometimes thrusting ice crystals up into the sleeping area. If you plan for this though, boughs and grass mats can still make the shelter work.
michaelpewtherer 1 year ago
@michaelpewtherer Thanks, I'll take all the information I can get, I appreciate it!!
REDSOXNYG 1 year ago
@REDSOXNYG I hear that, all about gaining knowledge and no one knows it all!
If you like the survival/primitive tech stuff, check out my channel. Nice guitar work on yours.
michaelpewtherer 1 year ago
nothing against bear grylls...he'd eat you!!
Gaularsch 1 year ago
@Gaularsch I would love to have that opportunity!
primitiveskills 1 year ago
@Gaularsch Bear doesn't really survive in the wild. Look up "Man vs Wild Fail" on YouTube.
Turtawz 1 year ago
Best video of a debris hut construction I've seen so far! Thumps up!
tulius01 1 year ago
I think its kinda small.
swordsman181 1 year ago
@swordsman181 The interior has to be small in order to function properly. It is designed to keep you warm well below zero w/o need of a fire by capturing your radiant body heat. It also dries you out from the same. So, w/o a fire, knife, rope or the need to defoliate an area, your shelter can be built of wet debris, you can climb in wet, have the temp. drop below freezing, & come out the next morning alive and dry...w/ practice or under the eye of an experienced practitioner the first time.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
What if you fart inside your debris hut, where is it going to go? Or what about that morning wood all us guys experience on a daily basis? I don't know about you but I sure don't want a stick in my pee hole! These are just a few concerns I have about this kinda shelter, may thee almighty Thor bless you.
Tegulicious 1 year ago
thank you great video the major thing i learned is my shelters are too big
BigWheelaCatPeelaYea 1 year ago
impressive
hzj79 1 year ago
What about snakes?
nights1900 1 year ago
Maine has no venomous snakes. In areas where they exist, follow normal protocols. Folks with phobias even build elevated platforms, primitive or modern.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
Good video - however i didn't appreciate the remark at the end regarding British accent.
ArtOfAvalon 1 year ago
@ArtOfAvalon I agree, that last bit was in bad taste. It is hard to call someone who climbed Mt. Everest (after a broken back) at a record breaking young age a novice with survival skills. In a pinch, most people will not have a half a day to build the perfect shelter in a survival situation. If a busted up plane is all you have, than you use it and improve the situation when and how you can.
Travels2477 1 year ago
@ArtOfAvalon It is not directed to all British people it is directed towards one dork in particular. Think about it and maybe you'll understand the dig.
landon460 1 year ago
why make that shelter? is it becuse of the wind?
ivageivage 1 year ago
@ivageivage The Debris hut is preferred where there are deciduous forests, it's a more efficient way to stay warm & dry than a lean to (which requires an external heat source) The thick leaf walls retain radiant bodyheat, shed wind and rain, and "breath", allowing existing moisture to evaporate out and away from you if you or your materials are already wet. The downside is it takes practice to build one correctly. Biggest mistakes: Door too big, too roomy, not enough leaf litter beneath you.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
good ending, I like the comparison between the two huts
markieb2345 1 year ago
Mike this is one of the best debris hut videos I have seen. I take my hat off to you. I am looking forward to watching the rest of your videos. Thanks for sharing.
practicalsurvivor 1 year ago
lol at his reference to bear grylls and les stroud
aznbullet95 1 year ago
les stroud is the only real "cable tv" survivor guid. Seeing as how he does it all on his own without camera crews and no one there with him. If I were to ever take a survivor course he would definently be my first choice.
thadisciple 1 year ago
It was a very good video
Now, Is it really Bashing IF the Information given can save you life?
Watching TV seeing good ol Bear and Les out there doing what they are getting payed to do is all very good Entertainment and I love both shows, BUT if I am stuck out over night or longer I want to Live, So some tv show star isn't coming to help me knowing what to do can and will save your life.....
winnipegdiver 1 year ago
The ridge pole and ridge pole supports are to flimsy, they will both collapse in a good rain or snow when your leaves get wet and heavy ( you also don't have enough leaves ). I speak from many years of experience. Also seems a bit snug for guy of your size, could be my angle of view, but seems tight to me. If you tuck you pants into your socks at night it will keep bugs from crawling up your legs. This type of shelter, when made well, can save your life.
mlcoo17 1 year ago
@mlcoo17 Valid but inaccurate concerns. We actually stood on this shelter, as we have done in every class for the last twenty four years, to show how stable it is. We also pour a five gallon bucket of water over the top to test water tightness. Our classes often visit a year old debris hut built to the same specs to demonstrate how water tight they remain after weathering a New England winter and settling. Good motivation, keep practicing, and hope to see you on the trail!
primitiveskills 1 year ago
@mlcoo17 Thank you for the motivation to produce a video addressing these concerns! I think you will see that all that you have stated is touched upon. Please see "Wilderness Survival Shelter-Debris Hut Myths".
primitiveskills 1 year ago
This is the only video I've ever found that beats one of Dave's........
Cheers!
DominickBlack 1 year ago
Finally, someone on YouTube who knows what they're doing with shelter building.
crunchmetal 1 year ago 2
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Ha ha!! Loved the ending !! ; )
Lepiratepoulpe 1 year ago
Good refresher course for me thanks !!!
5*
SECRETBOL 1 year ago
Well, I was really enjoying this before you had to go take the piss out of us brits ; )
bennyboyshaw 1 year ago 2
@bennyboyshaw This is a joke by the way, just kidding about the take the piss thing, your videos are great and you're completely correct about air space in a shelter, keep 'em coming : )
bennyboyshaw 1 year ago
Thanks for this excellent video.
Well done.
californada 1 year ago
Great video! I run a school in VA and I like your rafter concept. With over 20 years of combined SAR and Military training I have never seen that used. Very interesting. I would disagree on one point. With practice this shelter should be able to be constructed in an hour. Depending on resources or course. Great job on the video! If people practice what you have shared in this video, they will learn a skill that could very well save their life one day.
JohnGil37 1 year ago
How many tics can one expect to feed during a night in one of those?
derdagian1 1 year ago
In these wods ticks are more common to edge areas and grasses/forbes. The notable exception would be in overpopulated bedding areas or larders for mice, the deer ticks primary host. Good question, thanks!
primitiveskills 1 year ago
Thankfully, a course of common antibiotics administered in the first two weeks of symptoms can stop Lyme's Disease prior to any real serious consequences.
derdagian1 1 year ago
Ha ha! A whole lot probably! But remember - this is for survival purposes only. Otherwise, bring a tent!
CipherNameRaVeN 1 year ago
@derdagian1 I heard if you rub sugar water all over yourself before you crawl into that "structure"...them ticks ain't gonna bother ya anymore. hehe ;D
MountainGyspy 1 year ago
what a grate vid :)
james85Logan 1 year ago
Great information, this could save a life someday.
jpomatto13 2 years ago
you were doing good until you started bashing other efforts. Typical damn yankee
ArtisanTony 2 years ago
no apologies. lack of real dirt time kills folks. Too many people, including myself, get humbled hard when they think they know something. I'm bashing the lack of working information presented as fact. I'm adverse to situations that get folks killed 'cause they think they know it by watching videos, these included. Bear & Les are drumming up interest, but much of what is presented can lead folks to the wrong course of action.
primitiveskills 2 years ago
I agree. A lot of people watching those shows are learning really bad skills. Les, I think, not so much. But, Bear Grylls would be a deadly example to follow.
CipherNameRaVeN 1 year ago 2
ahman to that i agree with you.
TheScorpion615 1 year ago
I was bothered by the bashing aswell but it is what it is. Now you became a typical fool. Don't Yankee bash you sore loser. lol
foreverwild1775 2 years ago
video was informative and interesting until the survivalist bashing. No need to step on to step up. Too bad because I would have subscribed.
foreverwild1775 2 years ago
Again, no apologies. Present skills that work from real first hand experience, not theory. This is primarily a school, not entertainment television.
primitiveskills 2 years ago
@primitiveskills
I agree with you. Thanks for the tips. Very helpful
Origin305 1 year ago
@foreverwild1775 - Funny how easy you get offended by something simple like the poster referencing man v wild and survivor man.. get real and grow some thicker skin..
mixwell1983 1 year ago
i will burn that when he in there jk hihi
what1the1pho3 2 years ago
i told bear grylls about this and lets just say he isnt best pleased! ...infact, he's fucking raging! he told me to tell you that he is currently on his way to maine for a survival-off followed by a fight to the death...using only sharpened sticks.
round one involves standing in a freezing lake up to your balls. first one to make a girly sound loses.
sedod66 2 years ago 10
Bear should do Maine, I would like to see what he does with the elements here in the winter and summer.
MtnXfreeride 2 years ago
good video, glad you covered it more fully. I've seen other debris shelter videos not cover the ground cover and having suffered thru a sub-freezing situation without good ground insulation, it is really vital to get that part right! Learned a lot, thanks!
1too3fore 2 years ago
how many tick you get from that?
warpuppyTN70 2 years ago
The ticks aren't as common in leafy areas as they are in grasses and areas with herbacious plants. As in any areas, basic tick awareness and routines will keep you safe. Thanks for the question.
primitiveskills 2 years ago
No need to be rude with Les and Bear, primitive Mike.
NinjaMakaq 2 years ago
Good Point. Was commenting on the "entertainment" disguised as information that could get folks killed. We lose people in Maine every year because they "beieve" they know what to do without the direct experience. The "reality" shows perpetuate alot of this. I respect Les for showing his mistakes, and Bear for getting folks interested. Our focus is on what works based on first hand experience. Our staff has spent weeks at a time in their debris huts in all 4 seasons. Thanks for your view.
primitiveskills 2 years ago
and remember,DON'T smoke inside of ti,it can be dangerous! :-)
bisnonnocanapa 2 years ago
Where I live the forest provides only pine needles for the most part. That does not sound to comfortable to me. Can you use pine needles to make one?
MegaMadmax77 2 years ago
ya, if you cut enough branches from trees. pine is one of the driest trees. at the paintball field i work at the long needles are so soft (isolation) and bruce spruce are oily and interlapping so good waterproofing a tarp would help you too.
warpuppyTN70 2 years ago
wouldnt a bit of wind blow that whole thing away
wvadam 2 years ago
Not really if you build it correctly.
CaliforniaWilderness 2 years ago
ok buddy, i totally agree with everything exept you insulting the british, i am from the uk and i now how to do a perfect debris shelter
snails
snailscostello 2 years ago
@snailscostello: I think that jab was meant for Bear Grylls not the british in general.
jimjamerman 2 years ago
Why is there always arguments about bear and les stroud on these kinds of videos. Bear is shit, everything is staged on his show. Les is legit. But still, there is a difference between TV experts and real experts that teach. I think Les is great, but its obvious that he is not the greatest at finding things like food. But in a short term survival scenario, food is not importnat.
Remember, the two most important killers in the bush are hypo/hyperthermia and dehydration. Check out Cody Lundin
TheThissucks123 2 years ago
les sux in my opinion
but if you lie him then kool
i dont watch those vids anymore because they sound stupid
multigunlover 2 years ago
Les Stroud is, in his own words, NOT AND EXPERT AT ALL. He likes to live green and hike with his family. What his shows portray is an average person doing what they need to do to get through a hard time with little skill. Yes he get instruction from local survivalists and guides. He lives in southern Ontario and doesnt have to deal with scorpions regularly. Food and animals are easier to get up here so survival is Easier.