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  • sick paint job

  • its a carnival daddy!

  • what company did that blood-drip finish for you?

  • do i need to mic my kit for triggers to sound good???

  • @xXAlecXxC no you don't triggers don't need mics you can EQ the sound when the drums are recorded to make it sound good enough that no mic is needed.

  • so if you lose power it still sounds the same... how is that not cheating???

  • @ikedrummer you can set the module for your triggers to make them more or less sensitive and you can also make it so you have to kick the drum hard to make a loud sound and lightly to make a light volume. the gain level on a module is the sensitivity of the trigger. the MVI changes the trigger so that if you set the MVI high to like 127 everytime no matter how hard you hit as long as the sensor's picking up the signal it will sound the same with a light or heavy hit. but low power changesvolume

  • god damn ur a beast man when you actually started playin that sounded sick are u in a band if so let me know the info

  • That kick sounds G00D!

  • so triggers are just to make the things you trigger louder?

  • "....just somethin' weird there..." haha

  • triggers are a cheat in my opinion beacuse you hit it hard or soft it still makes the same amount of noise os your left foot or right foot if you are lefty does not have to work as hard

  • @austinparrick depending on the sensitivity levels.

  • i dont here what she says ..bla bla bla daddy...what she said xD?

  • @indafinda its a carnival daddy

  • Sweet paint job man, is that custom done?

  • yes it is

  • grasias

  • thoose metal pads for the click eat away your heads

  • What model pedals are you using and what type of drum module? I appreciate your video, made the difference of my getting triggers. Love you style.

  • if triggers r used to enhance the beat of the double bass then how culd that be cheating it actually sounds better its almost the same as how much guitar gear is changing to enhance the sound of pick ups wen ur soloing like i like to use alot of delay wen i solo and i like reverb alot wen i do rhythm

  • It could be considered cheating because you can adjust the sensitivity on drum triggers so you dont have to hit as hard. Whereas reverb on a guitar just alters the sound not your playing style. Also, drum triggeres in a live situation usually replace the drum sound completely so essentially you could attach one to a bit of wood and it would work. It wouldn't work as well but you get my point.

  • There is no "cheating" or "right or wrong" in music..

  • Well you can miss out on alot of technique if you use short cuts. I'm not saying triggers are a bad thing but they can be used to assist your playing which is not what they were designed for.

  • Yeah I do agree with you

  • you don't have to hit as hard, but you have to play perfectly tight in exchange to that, otherwise it really sounds like shit.

    I'ts like guitar distortion; compresses the sound a lot, but it doesn't play itself.

    listen to the slipknot guy in this latest tour, he is using triggers everywhere and sounds all sloppy and shit.

  • Triggers don't do anything to the sound of the drum what so ever. Unless your using them to trigger a noise gate or compression rack (which its rarely used for in a live situation). If you use triggers with a drum module you are replacing the drums sound with an artificial one. It does this by detecting vibrations on a surface which then sends a signal to the drum module to "Trigger" a selected sound. You then route the module to a PA system and your away.

  • Electric Guitars work with pure audio. You amplify the sound detected by the pick ups which is created by the sting vibrations. You can alter the audio as much as you like (Distortion, Modulators, Flanges, Delay ect) but the origin of the sound is still coming from the strings. In the case of drum triggers those audio vibrations are transfered to digital information. Look up "MIDI" (Musical Instrument Digital Interface) in wikipedia and it will explain more. Also look up "Trigger Pad" there too.

  • either way, you have to trigger that digital information very tightly, otherwise sounds like shit.

    triggers are not cheating because if you don[t play perfectly tight, it sounds horrible.

  • Obviously you have to play tight but you don't have to play with proper technique. As long as your registering a vibration on that drum head it will trigger the sound. You can set the sensitivity very high so even small hits are registered. I know that I would rather learn to play the drums properly and have good form. Alot of drummers use it to clean up their bass drum sound and thats part of the problem. You need to work on the technique to keep your sound consistant not cover your mistakes.

  • LOL if your playing is not consistant it will be heard from a mile away since "You can set the sensitivity very high so even small hits are registered".

    some drummers use it for cheating, yes, but those are the drummers that trigger everything, specially the snare because they do suck.

    good drummers trigger the bass drum for articulation, it does't mean they cheat, anyway it's allready a great prowess to play at 260+ bpm an entire set, even if they're playing softly.

  • I totally agree with you there but surely being a drummer yourself, you know it is of high importance to get all your hits consistant. I am not just talking about rhythmically but in velocity too. You can be as tight as you like but if the velocity of your hits aren't consistant it sounds like shite. One way to combat that is to use a trigger to get all your drum hits to sound the same. I see this as being a massive cop out as you miss out on all the technique required to play the drum properly.

  • Why dont you just buy a drum mashine then? It wouldnt sound so different. And you save alot of sweat, and you could growl or play some gitar instead.

  • Then you wouldn't be playing drums would you?

  • @riffeishonman thats cuz hes an overrated faggot i mean really hes not so great he wears a mask big deal

  • @riffeishonman the power you need to hit depends what setting are on the module you have. if the Gain is high and the MVI is all the way up you dont have to hit hard but if both are low you need to hit very hard with triggers

  • ok i still have a question.. do you have to run them into a PA or can you run them into a computer as well?

  • neither, you run them to a drum module. then you run the module to an amp or PA

  • you have to have the triggers hooked up to a brain or module and then you can hook that beast up to your computer XD

    I'm investing in some triggers so that I can record my covers with my acoustic kit

  • eyy thats lars solo at 3:05 onwards off binge an purge dvd

  • that's a sweet kit

  • nice kit

  • when you were blasting it looked like you werent doing anyting with your feet. =/

  • So, why do you have the heads of your bass drum beaters turned around. The back side of the Iron Cobra beaters are really bad for bass drum heads.

  • he explained it in the video,it's becouse it gives more attack,besides i got thick danmar metal kickpads so the drumhead won't get hurt...

  • Oh, ok. I totally missed that. And he should probably get different beaters, cause that's really not the best for those beaters.

  • could you hook the sond module up tp a bas amp?

  • they could change the way they sound right? not as in volume

  • what kind of set and brand do you have??

  • he has a pearl kit with zildjian cymbals, remo heads and pro mark sticks

  • "something wierd here"

    haha!!

  • I wouldn't say cheating but amping your volume to save stamina is pretty close to cheating

  • maybe he need that 4 a concert or something

  • which triggers are they? because the ddrums have little blue pads on.

  • Just wanted to ask, are the triggers connected to anything?

  • yes, a drum module

  • hm... and do i need amps for that or what exactly? if you could answer that would be lovely. thx ;)

  • um, i'm actually not sure. Maybe, maybe not. I'm not the person to ask I just found out about them too and want to learn more. All I know is you need to hook them up to a drum module

  • you eitherneed to put em on the p.a. to hear them,or just any kind of speaker,or if you have a d.y. you can link it to a computer and put any sound you like on it

  • wow that's amazing, ty for the info dude

  • the module has a little speaker but for really amplified sound, yes u will need an amp or amps

  • base totaly of beat o_O

  • good job bro

  • hey, Im not against triggers or anything, but whats the point of useing a metal pad if your useing triggers?

  • damn good video!

    the other ones about triggers were pathetic

    tanks for posting tis man!

  • Triggers are great. A friend of mine uses a trigger with two separate outputs one is mixed with high treble "click" and the other is mixed with a low bass sound. It really evens out the sound and makes it full.

  • What kind of drums does he have?

  • i think it sounded a little off but its prolly ur heads.. cuz it looked fine..

  • hey what pedals do you use? I was just curious.

  • Ahhh, I heard you playing the lars ulrich drum solo starting at 3:02 or am i mistaken?

  • @BundZoot naah hes just playing sextuplets lol used lots of metal songs ahahaha yeah i first thought it sounded like one before ahaha

  • @BundZoot One! The same beat is used in Walk with me in hell too \m/

  • how much ?

  • so i have a question can you make a video on getting rid of snare buzz

  • put a piece of tape on the snares not to much to kill the sound but enough to stop the buzz.

  • you can buy thin flimsy plastic rings that go around the inside of the snare and your toms. just find the size and go to a music store and im sure they will have them. they cover the space between the rim and the head and muffles the ringing and weird sound you get. so hopefully that helps you out

  • Your drums are gross but in a leet way

  • haha sumin weird there

  • Nice drums dude!

  • to say the triggering is cheating is both not true and miss leading. the trigger helps with note definition, registering an electronic sound instead of an acoustic sound. along with triggers metal drummers do use mics to fill the room out the click is just to define the note. i my self do not have triggers nore will i own them, but i know a lot of metal drummers in the industry and there concensus is now adays if your going to play metal and you dont have triggers get em.

  • i think its cheating because if you look have he are using them you can see that he is not using any technic, but he is still quickand he is not playing with heels up, which is wrong (or not the way its best to play) no offence

  • you obviously havent ever sat down and played a real drum kit. toe up is a much,much harder,more even way to play. all triggers do is make your drum kit sound amazing.. every metal band in history has used triggers on at least the bass... hes using a techniuqe. its called tight pedal tension,skill, and 2 bass drums....

  • hmm, okay, thanks ;)

  • was that a barking dog drum at 1:39?

  • "Its a carnival daddy" lol little girl in the background right at the beginning. Hehe.

  • triggers arnt cheating but it makes everything sound more controled...because he had no control whatsoever over what he was doing. it was really sloppy

  • Dude I'm new to triggers, what would I need to buy just for a kick drum? I know the triggers, but I don't know what kind of module I need or amp

  • do u need a PA for a trigger? or can u run it through an amp?

  • that guy needs to get his kit a dang tampon

  • hahaa lmao

  • Is that a part from "ONE" at 3:00? Sounds like it to me.

  • sure as hell sounds like it

  • call a medic!! his drum bleeding!!!! hahahhaha lol

  • hey what is the black spot ..(or sometimes white) on the bass drum.....the thing that gives a different sound for the double bass???

    some1 please tell me cauz... i really need those...

  • they're just click pads. Their purpose is not only for sound but also protection from the beater busting the head, or putting dents in the head and causing them to tear. There only like a few bucks at GC.

  • thank you :D .....

  • I'm a guitarist, so I know nothing about drums- but surely if people say triggers are cheating then us guitarists would have to ditch our pickups because they amplify the sound electronically, just as triggers do...

  • not rely

    the reson y some people say using trigers is "cheating" is becuse you can focus more on your speed then power plus you can tune the head soo the rebound is beter. u dont need to fuces on teh sound of the actual drum. if you mic it you need to find a balense betwen speed and volume and consistancy.

  • sweet blood on the drums, bro. :D

  • All of you a fucking retards and normally i wouldn't say that to anyone, But fuck people, He just told you what trigger's are, They don't make you play faster they don't make a click sound, They make it so you don't have to hit the bass drum so hard to get that nice crisp sound through your PA..

  • nice kit! i love the paint design

  • whats the deal with tht kit? did you paint it yourself?

  • If you want the Good Click sound on your bass drum, buy Evans EMAD 2-ply batter head, Trust me. When u get one, leave the thin muffle ring in there, and tighten the head just enough for your fingers to not be able to tighten anymore. Not TIGHT!!! But Tighter is for speed.

  • what the fuck? HAH. no, triggers pick up the vibrations of the drum, send a message to the brain, and shoots out a pre-recorded bass drum sound through the PA. you're not hearing the real bass drum at all. didn't you watch the fucking video?

  • flattens the sound of the drum? wtf are u talking about? pillows muffle the sound if thats what u mean, triggers fire off to single out the beats you play so they sound more distinct.

  • why am i an idiot? because i know what i'm talking about?....

  • sick paint job

  • hey man. the vid helps. i was wondering what did you call those impact pads again??? and where could i get some? i was also wondering if you can still hear the click if you don't have triggers and have the standard mic in the bass drum... thanks man

  • doesn't look like he's answering. but you get a harder hit with a standard mic, it's a little more of a "click" but Triggers are the things that make the "click" you're talking about. but i still have my beaters backwards without triggers anyway.

  • Here Comes The Kraken?

  • did you do the paintjob on the set?

  • cool. (sic)

  • yo thanks for making this video.

  • nice drums

  • What kind of PA do you have? And what kind of module (brain)? Thanks for the video!

  • its the carnival daddy!!

  • in a way they actually do let me explain, you can basically hit it lightly super fast with no pressure....

  • iron cobra pedals????????????????????????­?

  • i was wondering about the danmar pads and triggers, ive been usin the danmar pads for a while now, do the triggers missfire?

  • nice paint job on the kit man, i'm diggin the sh*t out of that

  • on 3. 35 it get shit!!!

  • I noticed a little white pad under your sensor?

    What's it for?

    Also, really helpful video man, thanks a lot.

  • its not a pad just the sticky pad or sticker or what ever you wanna call it. I just put it on there to keep from wearing the head.

  • something tells me you are a lars ulrich fan....

  • I grew up on metallica can you tell. lol.

  • nice lars ulrich solo haha

  • How much does it cost???

  • its obvice that they make you go faster because if youll play on a bass drum without triggers it would be tapping you can really fast if you tap.

  • ...and look who is wasting his ''life'' writing dumb comments. If you have nothing good to say, shut up and move on.

    Peace.

  • i can understand how people think triggers help you cheat because they take the vibration of the head thinking that if you play fast you play soft which is true but you are still playing fast even tho it is soft. so therefore you are playing 260 bpm (ex) but it's not loud so triggers make everything the same volume that's all. I like them.

  • thankyou for explaning this to people that are fucking stupid and that keep talking about how triggers are a way of cheating on drums.

  • are triggers always used when recording?

  • in recording they mic and trigger at the same time. but look on just about any live band look at the bass drum it will allways have a trigger.

  • in many bands, but not all of them

  • That drumset he has is an $8500 set.

  • more I got more like 10 in it.

  • wow, I think I was confused, I thought it was the dw set with flames on it, but your is different...still sweet though.

  • all that!!!!! man this guy don't play enough for all that

  • What Drum Module Are u using? :)

  • That is some crazy custom paint job on that drum set

  • haha nice 'tallica finish =D

  • ITS A CARNIVAL DADDY!

  • what brand of pedals are those?

  • I think dw's but not sure.

  • Nvm they r Tama Iron Cobras.

  • wow!!!! heel down,,!!!!

  • Your drum kit needs first aid asap!

  • yeah hahaha it might be the camera but his drum heads are way to lose! it rings like shit!

  • Um...I meant to say that because his drums are bleeding lol not because the sound XD

  • that's a sick drumset with the blood running down

  • 'If drum triggers are cheating then so is using mics on your set or using distortion on your guitar'... Are you fucking kidding me?

    Using distortion or mics, directly uses the sound you make from the instrument itself and changes/amplifies sound waves, the waves that YOU created right then and there.

    Triggers, use PRE RECORDED SOUND BYTES that have NOTHING to do with the sound that you create with the instrument live. Its like using a sampler or electronic kit. They are no longer drums.

  • sickest graphic

  • Finally someone who proves my point. TRIGGERS DO NOT SPEED UP YOUR DOUBLE BASS, it simply fuckin changes the bass sound into a gunshot-ish sound. Triggers has got NOTHING to do with the speed of the drums.

    "George kollias hits around 300bpm"

    "But I heard he uses triggers?"

    Don't you get tired of idiots?

  • When you use triggers, you stop putting forth the normal effort that you would normally focus into getting even-sounding beats. So with triggers, you can stop using the muscles in your thighs, and instead use your toes and ankles to squirm your way to quickness, "half-assing" each beat. I'm not saying this is the only way to achieve great pedal speed, but it is a way, and there are drummers who do that, so stop acting like it's some ridiculous myth.

  • awesome

  • ty for this vid i dont play so when ppl said triggers were cheating i didnt know

  • where did you get that pad??

  • damn you play nice man

  • ITS A CARNIVAL DADDY!

  • whahahahaha!

    Danmar Click Pad! says it all!

  • It's definitely cheating to raise the volume of the drum attack...essentially you can be playing death metal without using any force...basically playing softly and creating a uniform sound.. I was well aware of these, but I just wanted to clear this up. It's definitely cheating because it minimizes the effort required to play at full volume.

  • Who gives a shit...do you know how shitty acoustic drums sound when you're hitting 200 BPM and up? I love my triggers. You can put your show in the shit hole all you want; I'll let people enjoy the cleanliness of sound at mine

  • i agree

    if drum triggers are cheating then so is using mics on your set

    or using distortion on your guitar for crying out loud

  • ..what? no. using mics just amps the sound YOU are making, triggers aren't the real drum you're hearing

  • I dont think you've ever played a full death metal set. im not talking about the kit. i mean performance wise. do you know how hard it is to do that, playing any style, death metal none the less. it takes alot out of you, triggers just help you, cause by the end of the set its hard to play the same as you did by the second or third song. triggers just insure that you dont have to play as hard, but you wont be lacking in sound quality either.

  • I am new with triggers and have no idea how to use em. SOMEONE HELP ME! i have ddrum triggers and no brain module(i think thats what you need)

  • To me you cant really cheat in music, you do what ever you can to produce the sound you want, I love triggers and they make music sound amazing especially metal drivin with double bass!

  • LOL !!!!

    you are a "tap" bass drum player thats why you need triggers. take off the triggers and learn how to hammer the notes out. also I bet you quantize your drum parts when you record dont you?

    I understand its hard to play over 215BPM without triggers but at least try and remember no tapping

    LOL

  • Why do you have a pinstripe batter on the right bass drum, and a powerstroke batter on the left? Never seen that before.

    And are the iron cobra beaters supposed to be used like that? :S

    I don't mean to critisize you, I just thought that it was a little weird..

  • thas not an iron cobra beater

  • Oh, I saw that now... My bad:P

  • nice bleeding drumset

  • ekits is the way to go for the real speed:D

  • do u hav to download the sounds on for the

    triggers?

  • I've been drumming for for two years, but I've never looked into triggers.

    how does even setup?

  • Very often when drummers do double bass fast they don´t keep the beat.. very often they slow down or speed up if you compare with the hihat/ride for example. It´s too fast for themselves.. My personal recommendation is Don´t play over you own ability, it sounds much better if you stay slower but in control. (Sorry my bad english) I´m from sweden.. :P