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  • There are so many things wrong with the facts in this video. Although Timbaland did rip Do It from someone else, that has nothing to do with the title of this video. Crystal Castles ripped their song from Timbaland. Ayo Technology came out in 2007, and Courtship Dating came out in 2008, so unless Timbaland has a time machine, it's obvious that they ripped from him. CC also has plagiarism accusations of their own, so check your facts before you start insulting people!

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  • you guys are all idiots! This beat was orginally made in 2001 and he sampled it from a group that had a session at is virginia home studio but it was never finihsed..until in 08 of course when 50 got ahold of it. MTV NEws Timboland interview look it up!

  • @mic2296675 dude what 'group'? 50's group??

  • Get a new computer.

  • In fact, many people look down appon a song the minute it sounds "computerish".. however, if you explore 8bit music makers, the level of creativity is impressive. Many 8bit composers compose actual MELODIES, not just cheap beats.

    As an very ammateur composer myself, if a famous artist would cut and paste my tracks without even asking or making an understanding with me, I would sue his ass to teach a lesson.

    I mean, possibilities in music are endless... why rip-off entire melodies from people?

  • The Crystal Castles arp sounds more like a sample, pitched down but it's a bit different from Tibaland's arp. And I know for a fact that Timabaland owns a SID Station.

  • he is a crook and needs to be locked up or atleas made accountable for his actions. greedy greedy fat shit is whats wrong with music today

  • CRYSTAL CASTLES FUCK THE WORLD.

  • timbo makin bitch shit anyway every new song he makes, i lose respect for him as a rap producer

  • I THOUGHT THE SAME THING WHEN I HEARD IT. Legit it got me soo pissed -_-

  • Dats not sampling he straight rippin there music, sampling u take like 2 instuments and sample 2 bars, but he takes there whole melody, n either speeds it up or slow it down and ajust da instruments to sound hip hop dats all, he's a peace of shit producer, y u think its always old foreign music, cuz he dont have to get no rights, cuz they wont hear about it, or they dont have the money to do anythin about it

  • @Djmoe2k8

    There is no law that states the amount that you can sample from a song, you can take as much of a song as you want, the artist that is being sampled gets paid the same amount by the MUSICIANS UNION no matter whether half a bar or 24/36/48 bars are used.

    p.s. this doesn't mean that me and timbaland are straight up homedawgs, stupid fat "musician" *cough cough*

  • who cares?

  • @quizmark Peple in the business of creating music care... it actually takes effort and time to come up with original new tracks and melodies.... and I am not talking about generic beats...

  • that 50 cent song has been out way before crystal castles it doesnt matter because they are 2 different songs anyway

  • @poonmcnugget totally agree... except for the beat being almost exactly the same 

  • i wish i was a nigraz!!!

  • The sad thing is I love Crystal Castles. I think they're amazing. They deserve all the credit possible for it.

    Though I do have to say, calling him a 'nigra' isn't really going to push your point forward. Still, though, I see your point.

    It makes me dislike the guy even more than before.

  • ive noticed cystal castles samples turing up everywhere, and its starting to piss me off.... especially cos the idiots who like those songs are the first to slag off cc.

  • Um, much as I dislike timbaland's music, the second instance here is simply an 8-bit arpeggiated chord sequence, arpeggiated chords and that minor 3-chord progression are both used by loads of artists... I don't think it's even a direct sample.

  • 50 cent is a theiven bitch; you'd think with all the money he makes, he's gonna produce original or at least hire out. Makes him look like a schmuck.

  • Ooooo, did crystal castles get anything from this?

  • Timbaland is a talentless bitch.

  • Well Said @IsompiVamma

  • crystal castles views on sampling copyright etc could hardly be said to be utterly ethical and above board, far as i can gather they give not a flying fuck and nor should anyone else, in fact i've just wasted precious moments of my time commenting, check the posters comment, just a racist cunt imho

  • It's sampling if you have permission to the sampled beats. It's stealing if you don't! Period.

  • @IsompiVamma both timbaland and crystal castles didn'y have permission

    PERIOD.

  • @Ponnybit

    They had the right to- The Creative Commons License states this- just only if they gave credit to the original author, and distributed it non-commercially under the CC License. ...Which none of them did.

  • @Ponnybit who did crystal castles sample from?

  • @jackie4244 Ethan's admitted it himself, they were 100% sample based when they were starting off.

  • @IsompiVamma I all due respect, when you "sample" and entire melody... I don't call it sampling anymore , it's "cut and paste" and its pretty lame if you ask me.

    If you run out of creativity and have to get other peoples creativity to keep your boat afloat, lest one can do is get approval from the true composers....

  • @IsompiVamma Ponnybit is right. The Creative Commons licence was used, and in a simlliar case with Lo-Bat with Insectica. The CC is supposed to prevent your artwork or music from being sold by someone else.

  • wrong @ChrisTheCrook

  • its called sampling..Timbaland should have had permission..i guess...i love crystal castles and timbaland..its just Art.. not stealing..

    yeah it is kinda annoying he keeps sampling crystal castles...he should have just sampled one song of theirs..thats it..whatever..fuck it...and if you think rap is gay, listen to underground hip hop and see how they sample...amazing

  • Timbaland you niggger piece of shet!

  • @FRYKYMEN2 shut up

  • criss faggot@ stop sucking nigger dick ploxx c:

  • stop talking like a retard you subhuman piece of shit.

  • mad much  ;O

  • i love you

  • Timbaland Steals beats fuck him.

    Fuck him.

  • so what? That's what Crystal Castles gets for stealing so many beats and 8-bit sounds from teh Chiptunes community. Seriously, fuck them. It hurt a lot of people. These people wouldn't have minded if they're stuff wasn't used for commercial purposes but... guess what, it was. Fuck CC. I enjoy their music, but hate what had to be done to make it.

  • so many beats?

    what else did they steal besides the lo-bat song, that was just a promo?

  • @salmon886 I think that you are too ignorant of the fact to be making those statements. In my opinion music is an art form and artists look to one another for inspiration, perhaps timbaland took someone's beat but he made it his own just like artists have since the beginning. Besides CC is in a different genre.

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  • Simpsons did it, Simpsons did it....who cares who ripped off who....it doesnt matter....some Japanese dude came up with all these loops and synth sounds anyways....they're the ones that deserve the grammys

  • fuck timbarland

  • Thats what sampling is you fool

  • you need permission to sample copyrighted content

    somthing timberland has been caught doing many times he sucks ass

  • plugin sorry not synth

  • crystal castles - ayp only sounds like timb has used the same synth on protools or whatever he uses. this DOES NOT mean he has copied the melody/song you nub as they are both different..

    i agree with the doit /acidjazed steal but this was pointed out 3 years ago so quite a pointless vid.

  • crystal castles are just as notorious as timbaland for ripping off 8bit artists. i don't believe timbaland or Crystal Castles are responsible for the tune. i would love to find out who made the real song.

  • this is what happens when you dont have any hobbies...

  • actually, crystal castles have ripped off most their stuff from poor 8bitcollective artists.

  • @beepbeeprustrust that's a lie LOL

    8bitcollective is "new"

  • @Ponnybit No its not. Do your homework. Unless by new you mean like 2000?

  • @Ponnybit "Lo-Bat"? :( they never saw it coming..

  • @beepbeeprustrust tiwas just 2

  • @Ponnybit which songs did they take from on 8bitcollective?

  • @beepbeeprustrust orly? Care to back that accusation up with facts ?

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  • this is the dumbest statement i've ever heard. reinterpreting and being influenced by songs/music you have heard is so vastly different than taking the SAME EXACT CLIP of someone else's music and then dropping that directly back into your song and calling it your own. are you kidding me?!

  • Yes, very true.

  • Timbaland stated that he sampled Crystal Castles..and in case some people don't know...in order to sample somone, you have to get that artist's permission to sample their work...which mean Crystal Castles said Timbaland could use the synth line on Ayo Technology, they were also credited in 50 Cents CD booklet, plus they get a percentage of the sales so who cares if he sampled them...they obviously aren't mad.

  • You're talking rubbish. Timbo gave them no credit at all. In fact, if you ask Timmy, he'll say he made the beat, which is a downright lie.

  • Go buy 50 Cent's CD "Curtis" which I have, find "Ayo Technology" and then come back here and tell me what it says...i'll wait. Timbo did make the beat which would be the "drums", just that he used the synth line from Crystal Castle...but if you really want to get technical, they didn't make that synth line either bro, so you might want to dig a little a get the facts before you reply. Have a great one!

  • Timbo made what drums? Timbo added an extra kick and sped up the sample. That's all he did. The most amount of work Timbo put into that track, was the percussive sounds playing in the background and a snare roll on every other 4 bars. Get serious. I'm not even talking about where Crystal Castle got the sample from. That's not the point. We're talking about Timmy, not Crystal Castle The point is, plain & simple, Timbo's highly overrated as a producer and especially as a beatsmith.

  • Well looks like well have to agree to disagree...and Crystal Castle is just as relevant in this debate...can't call out one and not the other...they are just as guilty with using/sampling others. And what I meant by timbo doing the beat, none of the drums from the crystal castle version even sounds the same as ayo tech, nor are they the same drums.

  • "in order to sample someone, you have to have to get that artist's permission" - that is why norwegian, iranian and arab artists have tried to take him to court is it! hahaha! he is a thief, c'mon, why won't you realise it. I think that he thought people wouldnt realise where he ripped them off from!

  • @indeeeeeeeeeeeeed you're right

    thank god for thwe internet.. i mean... thanks to the internet and peoples mentality changing and actually seeing that theese fools that go by on MTV are junk a bunch of dewbs, maybe for future generations (thanks to the internet again) artists will actualy be artists and not thieves

  • None of you have proof that these samples aren't paid for and cleared.

    So stfu, and get off the internet, you make me dumb just reading your drivel.

  • @yennikcire

    you're a music noob clearly. thanks for comin out

  • I agree with you with that. Timbaland where hoping no one would find out where he had stolen those beats/tunes from!

  • Ok wtf is that description about?

  • sampling is widely done in the genre... the issue with Acidjazzed Evening was that he never gave any credit to Tempest for sampling him. I assume it was the same for CC?

  • are you fuckin kidding me?! i think you need to do more research as you've got the facts all twisted up in your head.

  • haha welcome to the twenty first century

  • CC stole nothing. End of story.

  • amen.

  • I think you need to read up a little more. Covox, Lo-Bat and X-agon say hello.

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  • Crystal Castles are amazing... Timberland is jealous he cant make his own stuff!

  • wtf?

  • haha chrystal castles ripped that off from someone else

  • timbaland steals off everyone, he cant make his own beats which is disgusting. I remember hearing about this like a year ago and was very sad, someone brought it up the other day again because we were talking about how amazing CC is. Timbaland will never match up to the artist that CC are!!!! P.S-negro's need to stopp tappin into ELECTRONIC music.....we wouldnt be having this problem...stick with your hip-hop beats and leave the synths to us...psssssssh! FO SHO

  • Electro music is the new upcoming sound at the moment. Personally I think 90's music was another level compared to the crap I hear now-a-days.

  • wow i facepalmed nearly all the comments on this video

    it's a simple apreggiator with lo-fi waves samples

    this is beyond retarded to even compare them because, it;s just something you can do with a synthesizer it's not as simple ass just using a pre-written patch so you assume it's sampling when it's just a fuckin easy ass studio trick

  • I knew it. :( obvious!

  • timbaland is a good producer,, but he has sampled or stolen, for all i know, maybe 30-40% of his work.. but if you think it is simple to just sample a song you are wrong.. he does not just ripp them off.. he makes them 100 times better and adds his own touch, drums, basslines.. so we have to give him credit

  • ok, i'll steal your wife, make her more happy and then you give me credit.

  • haha, well if you can make her more happy than I'll give you credit for it.

  • AHAHAHHA! Oh shit...that made my day.

  • who cares

  • its actually the other way. crystal castles is a complete rip off

  • you're a dumbass look at the dates fanton.

  • 50cent and timbaland released AYO late 2007, crystal castles have been preforming courtship dating since 2006.

    so yeh you're right crystal castles were ripped off by timbaland

  • Your a tit

  • What's all this about Crystal Castles stealing the original tune? Is CC as big a dick as Timbaland?

  • lame, lame c64 sid ripping...

  • what's 'nigras' you illiterate motherfucker? Go & learn the English language. You clown.

  • are you daft

  • No, I'm literate. What are u?

  • whoah you misspelled you, you illiterate scumbag

  • I didn't misspell it at all. Ha! Is that the best u (yes I said 'u') can do? LOL. Not surprised there are no aces up ur (yes, 'ur') sleeve. imbecilic moron!

  • you seem cute we should be myspace friends

  • hahahahahahaha!

  • What are you trying to prove? I think Nintendo should sue all those fuckers period all of them steal it from 8-bit machines anyways...

  • he actually sampled a version that the original composer of acidjazz evening gave permission for. that version was never copywritten so technically its not in breach

  • uhmm too bad crystal castles actually steals all their songs too. You have the wrong sample. Sorry to inform you. You basically said Timbaland ripped off a rip off . . .

  • how was it released if the sample wasnt cleared then? the label would have pulled the song from the radio and his album

  • wot a twat!! dj's sampel other peoples tunes all the time. theres nuffin rong with it.. music is art and art belongs to the public. i dont like timbaland and im kind of sick of rappers taking inspiration from the the dance scene but theres nuffin wrong with sampeling or remixing other peoples tunes.. if anything remixes if done well can make a band or dj eg. justice remix of simians never be alone. We are your friends massive tune launched justice career and saved simian, now simian mobile disco

  • there is something with sampling without crediting the original authors bc dumbass timbaland is getting loads of money and not giving anythg to the people who actually wrote the music

  • he looped the whole 8 bar and put drums on top - he didnt add any melody on top, or rhythmically change the sample, so in my eyes hes a thief. the fact that on top of this he didnt give the source credit just makes it worse. and he hasnt done this once or twice, he does it with most of his "work".

  • crystal castles also steals music, so it evens it out.

  • yep but CC they haven't cleared it from the ORIGINAL person either.. not gonna name who it is, but people in the know, know where it was taken from.. an amiga mod... I'd post the exact song title up, but do I wanna help theiving fools like mr tin-o-paint.. heck no...

  • get over urself!!

  • three chords in sid isn't exactly stealing

  • i thought ayo technology came out before the courtship of dating.

  • wow i am with everyone else when i say i lost alot of respect for timberland.. WTF

  • I deff give ronald jenkees way more props  than timbo....timbo is just some black asshole that has more money than he should

  • it a sample song sounded nothing alike

  • ey im a huge crystal castles fan.....but fair fucking play to timbaland he knows what good music is and he is getting other people to make it Ayo technology was a wicked beat! fair fucking play timbaland your still wicked in my eyes!!!

  • Ronald Jenkees > Timbaland

  • lol that was the only part i liked about the 50 cent and justin t. video...

  • fakk timba land up his candy ass

  • crystal castles sample from people too lol

  • CC definitely could win in court if they had the money for it.

    sampling uses a prerecorded beat or hook in combination with other beats creating a "collage"

    stealing is using a prerecorded sound as the melody to your entire song without "collaging".

    it is evident timbaland is guilty of stealing.

  • you got it twisted son.. a looped prerecorded sample replayed over and over with heavy 808s and snares is considered sampling just as well as your philisophy of a "collage".. you can take your main melody loop, replay it over and over, add a few of your own instruments to it and some more prerecorded song samples and itd be the same idea.. timbo aint stealin shit as long as the sample is cleared

  • DJUncleSkeeter you're right man but this sample wasn't cleared so he just outright stole it

  • This makes me detest timbaland even more

    now when Courtship Dating is officially released next month all the stupid people are going to think crystal castles ripped off this dinkus. ARGH.

  • Timbaland = Rippoff

    He can't make his own music?

  • Yeah i noticed this before,

    f*ck you timbaland

    going to see crystal castles 6th feb woo.

  • crystal castles rips bands off as well

  • How man? The best shit he's done is lovestoned where he hasn't nicked anything. I think he's done some immense music but what gets my back up is the fact he thinks he's above giving credit and royalties where there due, the greedy bastard.

  • I love Crystal Castles xD

    Was wondering what that Nelly song was called lol, *downloads it* =]

  • Because the bands complained in the web...

  • u aint kiddin..lol

  • damn this nucca be ripping a lot of joints

  • by the way, Courtship Dating is a million times better than that crap...

  • total ripoff

  • LOL Timbaland ripped off the people who ripped off Lo-Bat and Covox!!!! Oh the irony...

  • I was going to say the same thing. I like all musicians mentioned, anyway. MUSICIANS.

  • :P someone's angry.

    And really, 99% of all music being ripped off is just unreal. Think logically, then you can bitch to me. kthxbai

  • awh wise upp.

    Excageration for the point of emphasis?

  • Emphasis or not, seeing great musicians getting ripped off gets me pissed. These are people I know and have talked to before. People like Timbaland are just in it for the money, but some of these guys, they do it because they like making music and they do it soley for they're own pleasure. It's wrong to take someone put their soul into and try to call it your own.

  • I love the SID chip, being an avid C64 user as a child, and I also have been WRITING music since 96, this makes me sick. MOS 6581 b1thces!

  • yeah but its from a video game! i even use video game samples sometimes!

  • It's not a video game song chief. It's a legitimate song made by a legitimate producer. Get your facts straight. You look foolish.

  • If someone got rich off of your work believe me. U would be pissed.

  • hands down thats a rip off

  • Timbaland isn't really a good producer anyway. I'd prefer stuff from Nujabes anyday, specially since 95% of the music Nujabes makes is original.

  • Jace - I love Nujabes but he samples a lot. Although that's not the point, sampling is a great tool. Timbaland just isn't as good as people like Nujabes.

  • haha i like how you use notepad

  • Yes, it does matter, when commercial artists get rich using samples without the approval of the original composers. This isn't the early days of hip hop. This is not underground music any more. It's big business now and the old rules don't apply.

  • teddybears are the kings of the good use of a sampler

  • lol crystals castles stole this sample. double rip off.

  • This isn't a sample this is just copying. If you want to listen to good samples listen to Kanye West and Just Blaze. In a sample you use one part of the song like how Kanye sampled the drums off Dre's Xplosive in Spaceship not the whole song.

  • he didn sample xplosive in spaceship.

  • Yeh that's why he said he did in Last Call. He was obviously just lying.

  • lol no. he said he used the drums for 'this cant be life' - beanie sigel. Even in that song he didn sample it, just used a similiar beat to xplosive. Listen to it, then u decide. Then listen to spaceship, two very completely different beats.

  • well aren't u the smart one. I don't have a clue how i remembered that one wrong. I'm still right about usage of samples though. Weird thing is on Wikipedia it says that he samples Xplosive on Spaceship with sped up drums.

  • Oh noez! teeef! teef! Fucking children, get over it, samples have been around since recording equipment arrived.

  • haha loser wat do u do all day

  • still think the version with nelly furtado is much better!they should be thankful

  • Sampling is OK with permission of the original producer. IIRC Timbaland sold this song as his original without giving any credits to the original producer - and that's not OK.

  • They are the same songs not samples..wtf is with everyone.. a sample is exactly that.. A PART OF A SONG.. not a whole song. fail fail fail fail fail

  • sampling or whatever, its not ORIGINAL... you can enhance it, but the fact that you got rip some parts from another piece is not good... MAKE SOME ORIGINAL TUNES, if YOU ARE A REAL ARTIST...

  • mate.. i know you're right and all.. but seriously! you are so slow with your mouse! its so annoying!