@misspiccola11 Also you have to realize that sometimes abortion IS the sacrifice Maybe the family wanted to have more children, but this pregnancy came too soon and if the woman takes ANY time off work in maternity leave she could lose her job and the family loses the mortgage and the house and everything goes to shit for them
And yet people like you would brand this abortion "for convenience" (because feeding the children they already have is convenient? and call the woman an irresponsible slut
@yakataah "you have to realize that sometimes abortion IS the sacrifice" This is one of the most stupid comments I think I've ever heard. Congratulations.
@mattinuk So when a woman who really, really wanted a baby but must abort due to medical reasons and it breaks her heart to do so is STUPID to you, not sad. Congratulations, you're a heartless robot. Register your brain unit at the nearest service centre, android SFG-36, since it's obviously due for maintenance.
@misspiccola11 Abortion does not kill children. There are no children nor babies involved in abortion.
Slut-shaming is exactly what you're doing. You're judging other people as irresponsible and wrong without knowing the context or their circumstances. You have no right to put on airs and act superior because they don't conform to YOUR standards of when and how sex is done. It's none of your business when and how people have sex.
why do you care more about a fetus then all the people who are actually alive and getting killed by our military or dying of starvation now. shouldn't you put more energy into people who never be?
Bit weird that the video called "Planned parenthoods victims" only has one victim in it; a woman who wanted planned parenthood to provide a psychologist as well as a doctor.
Evil always disguises itself as being good and helpful. If you do just an ounce of research on pp, you would understand what their true intentions are under the myth they are helping. This destructive behavior will destroy us and turn us into sex crazed demons. I rebuke thee
What about all the women who die because they needed an abortion to save their life, and you were here to block them from it? What about your victims?
@MrOhnozombies Such people don't exist. This is a myth put out by the abortionist agenda, and it's a deflection. There is no condition that justifies the death of a child to save the life of the mother. However, let's say such women do actually exist, how does that justify the millions of murders conducted out of convenience thanks to Abortion?
@MrOhnozombies No, they don't. It's an abortionist myth. There is no medical condition that warrants the execution of the baby to save the life of the mother. You've been fooled. When was an abortion performed for her? I've been looking, and I can't find it. I can't find a single instance where she had an abortion. Could you clarify?
@MaxxTheMerciless You're the one who wants women to die when a pregnancy threatens her life. Denying someone medical attention when they have a life-threatening complication is murder. You're the pro-murderer, and sexist.
@WerewolfOfTheWater Your the one who wants to murder babies. Also, you're the sexist. I'm merely asking women to take responsibility for their actions for a change.
@MaxxTheMerciless Abortion is a way to take responsibility when that is the best thing to do, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't taking responsibility. How am I a sexist for wanting women the freedom to make their own sexual and reproductive choices? And how is "mangina" not a sexist insult? Do you think Jesus would approve of that?
An abortion is a form of contraception, nothing more. More than 90% are conducted for reasons other than rape or incest, and if you think about it, they're all conducted for reasons of convenience.
If a woman wants to have the freedom to make healthy sexual and reproductive choices, there's a better way. It's called abstinence before Marriage. Works every single time it's tried, and the people are happier for it. Avoids a lot of problems.
@MaxxTheMerciless 60% of rapes aren't reported, so many more are probably due to rape than you think, and if you actually look up statistics about abortion you'd find that a large percentage of women who get abortions ARE married. Just because you're married doesn't mean you can have a kid yet. Get the stereotypes out of your head and actually understand women who get abortions before spewing crap.
@MaxxTheMerciless Why do you idiots always assume that if a raped woman gets an abortion she's doing it to "punish" the embryo? That's a complete load. You're saying that if a woman is raped she should be re-victimized by being forced to give birth against her will. What did SHE do to deserve being punished? You realize that means men who wanted to spread their seed forcefully could then do so and have it legally protected? You're sickening.
@MaxxTheMerciless Not to mention just outright denying reality. If you honestly think there's NEVER any situation in which an abortion is medically necessary to save a woman's life, you're either completely deluded or you just want women to die. Even other anti-choicers will admit that abortion is sometimes necessary in a medical emergency, but you're just on a whole different level of deluded.
@WerewolfOfTheWater If anything it is YOU that denies reality by promoting a false premise. There is never a situation in which an abortion is medically necessary. I know, because I talk to obstetricians about this. There are all kinds of ways to save both lives. You and your pro-murdering ilk just don't want to hear about it so you can fornicate without any bearing any consequences for your actions.
@MaxxTheMerciless What obstetrician have you "talked to"? Can you cite a credible source? I didn't think so.
What's wrong with having sex without consequence? If people can have sex without hurting themselves or anyone else, why not let them? Why do you insist on punishing people, particularly women, for having sex? You clearly want to reduce women to pieces of property by controlling their sexuality.
@WerewolfOfTheWater Why do you insist on murdering a child for the actions of its parents? Cite me one obstetrician who believes abortion is absolutely necessary to save the life of the mother, and I'll show you an abortionist - because they don't exist.
@MaxxTheMerciless Nice try, but you have yet to cite the obstetricians you're talking about who insist that it never happens. It's just common knowledge that sometimes pregnancies can threaten the woman's life, even others on your side can admit that. Sorry buddy but the world isn't perfect and not every pregnancy works out, just accept that fact.
Sure, a pregnancy can threaten the life of the mother, but there are ways to remedy it, and you're the one who's trying to create the false premise that the child must be murdered in order to save the mother.
If you're not for sex and health education for women and easy access to contraception then you have no business thinking you have a reasonable opinion regarding Planned Parenthood.
@integral You have no idea what sex is. Health education has NOTHING to do with encouraging and providing abortion options. That is not "healthy". A baby is NOT a disease. Health care is something you get when you have an illness that needs covering. A baby is NOT an infection that needs to be controlled by "birth control" products. There is no "birth" and there is no "control" in birth control. Why do people want the option to kill there children to be available?
@integral If you believe that women are animals who can't be made responsible for the choices they make, then you have no business thinking you have a reasonable opinion on anything. This is what birth control has done to women; it has objectified them from being responsible human beings to becoming sex objects. When 1 in 4 teenage girls in America has an STD, that is due largely to the kind of sex education YOU advocate.
@MaxxTheMerciless Actually there are several medical conditions that require an abortion, when a woman you know has an embryo implant itself in the Fallopian tubes instead of the uterus, well I hope that never happens since you would just tell her to die. Birth control exists so women can enjoy sex by their own choice, it doesn't make them objects, what makes them objects is reducing them to nothing more than baby-incubators.
@WerewolfOfTheWater That's such a rare event, but even so there are remedies for it that don't require the premeditated murder of the child or the death of the mother. And no, birth control has turned women into sex objects for men, and men into additional sources of cash for women. It changes the mindset. Look how girls and women dress 20,30, 40, 50 years ago compared with today. Look at the increase in teenage pregnancy compared to decades ago.
@MaxxTheMerciless Um, no, there really isn't. What "remedies" are you talking about, can you cite a source for how reliable they are? Second, teenage pregnancy rates are highest in southern, republican states, rape rates are highest in countries where women don't have access to birth control. Birth control has done the exact opposite of what you claim, sorry bro. Don't you realize that women enjoy sex too, it's not just men?
@WerewolfOfTheWater For one, in the case of an embryo that doesn't come out of the fallopian tube they can rescue the embryo with a very simple procedure that inserts a camera into the tube and pushes the embryo out, or, if absolutely necessary, extracts it, but they can do wonders now that saves every life.
Ummm, cite that source where teenage pregnancy rates are higher in southern Republican states.
@MaxxTheMerciless Simply do a google search, you'll find the info on it, I'm still waiting for you to cite your own sources, so do that before asking for mine.
@MaxxTheMerciless If pregnancy NEVER threatens a woman's life, then how do you explain the fact that over 500,000 women die during childbirth every year, and many many more suffer permanent damage from it, many of which could have been prevented by access to birth control or abortion services? Do all those women who died during childbirth just...never exist, in your deluded fantasy?
@MaxxTheMerciless Exactly, not in the west, because people in the west HAVE ACCESS TO BIRTH CONTROL AND ABORTION. In countries where they don't, women DIE because of it. Google it. Why do you keep asking me to cite statistics when you won't even cite any of yours? Hypocrite.
@WerewolfOfTheWater Also, the false premise of the so-called ectopic pregnancy is such that if the embryo begins to become a problem for the mother, then the child is already dead anyway. Often, this can be found well before it becomes a problem, and if the embryo doesn't push out on its own then surgery can correct that problem.
@WerewolfOfTheWater Because it's YOU, pro-murderer, that's making the assertions! Show me where it is vital to murder a child to save the mother's life and cite your source. I can cite sources, but I'm not the one making the assertion that abortion is necessary at all, on a pro-life video.
@MaxxTheMerciless You're the one who claimed that abortion is never necessary citing nothing other than someone you "talked" to and when I asked you to identify who it was you refused to answer. Pro-rapist.
@WerewolfOfTheWater What would it matter, pro-murderer? You wouldn't believe it anyway.
You're citing one condition that's like getting struck by lightning, and even so the procedures both before 1999 and after to correct the problem do not directly kill the baby. That is a smokescreen meant to deflect the issue.
Also, how does saving the lives of human beings equate me to being pro-rapist? Only an idiot could make that claim. But, you are pro-murder.
@WerewolfOfTheWater Wow, what a leap in logic. No, idiot. I do not support rapists for the same reason I don't support murder, which means I actually think a baby has 5th Amendment rights to due process before being sentenced to death. What is the greater crime, I wonder? To rape an innocent person, which is a tragedy, or to murder an innocent life?
If anything, I'm also pro-Justice. You are just pro-sex.
@MaxxTheMerciless The rape of a fully sentient person, and then re-victimizing them through forced childbirth is infinitely worse than terminating an insentient, non-thinking embryo. To force a woman through childbirth after she was raped, just makes you no better than the rapist. Forcing a woman through a bodily ordeal she doesn't want to do, IS basically rape.
Justice is not allowing a rapist to spread his seed forcefully then have it legally protected while re-victimizing his victim.
@WerewolfOfTheWater No it's not. Now you're resorting to hysterics. Rape is wrong, but so is Murder. Your rationalizations do not change the fact that that embryo is a human being, with a life and a right to life. Nor do they give you the excuse to murder someone who has every right to live, just as much as you have the right not to be raped. Plus, abortion doesn't change the fact of rape. And in fact, women who have abortions suffer severe emotional trauma they may never recover from.
@MaxxTheMerciless Actually that's a myth, studies have shown a lot of women DON'T suffer any trauma after abortions, some do, but that's the consequence of a choice they made, a choice they should be allowed to make, women don't need you to "protect" them from their own choices. Sometimes people make choices they regret, that's life, but that doesn't mean those choices should all be illegal. They certainly don't need you forcing childbirth on them after they were raped, either.
@MaxxTheMerciless And what percentage of women who get abortions actually feel those effects? That is key, bro, and plus you're citing a pro-life website. How about citing something that isn't cherry-picking info in order to promote an agenda?
@WerewolfOfTheWater So what if I am citing a pro-life website? They're far more truthful than anything pro-abortion websites cite. I mean, after all, abortion is a cash industry, and a sacrament to the Left.
How about the BBC? Plenty of articles relating to that topic.
@MaxxTheMerciless Even if embryos were human beings, that wouldn't justify making abortion illegal when it comes to rape, because right to life doesn't mean that embryo gets to use the woman's body against her will. If someone is dying of kidney failure, nobody can force you to donate a kidney to them, so why should women have to give up their rights for something they never asked for, when NO ONE ELSE does?
@WerewolfOfTheWater The embryo isn't making a choice in the matter. First, you say that the embryo isn't sentient, then you are claiming that it is making a conscious choice to further "rape" the mother. Which is it? The baby did not choose to be there.
I mean, look what you have to do to justify murder. You first have to create the false scenario, then use the moral outrage of rape to excuse murder. I mean, the Nazis couldn't do it better.
@MaxxTheMerciless I didn't say it made the conscious choice to do anything, you're putting words in my mouth. Didn't Jesus say something about lying? I said that YOU are advocating the rape of women because YOU want to force them into a bodily trauma against their will through the government. I didn't say anything about embryos making any choices. Embryos are not capable of making choices any more than the chair I'm sitting on is.
False scenerio? Please, you're outright lying at this point.
@WerewolfOfTheWater You are lying. I am not advocating rape. It take the stupidity of a hack to make that conclusion. Just because I value the life of both MOTHER and CHILD doesn't mean I supported the rape. Only a moron comes to that conclusion. Just because I don't approve of the rape doesn't mean I approve of the murder of the baby that was conceived.
You said that embryos force a woman to be pregnant, thus implying they had a choice in it.
@MaxxTheMerciless You don't value the life of the mother at all, don't lie to yourself. If you valued the life of the woman you wouldn't completely ignore her needs and expect a RAPED woman to give them all up for an embryo, when no one else in society is expected to relinquish their rights for anyone else, even to save their life. If you didn't hate women then you wouldn't say that they're responsible for a situation brought on by RAPE.
@WerewolfOfTheWater That is a lie. Of course I value the life of the mother. But a rape is not a murder. Look what you are doing. Rape is tragic, but murder is the end of a LIFE. After a rape, a woman can go on with her life. She's still alive. That doesn't make rape right. Rape is a crime. Murder is a crime. Two wrongs don't make a right.
@WerewolfOfTheWater By your logic, a woman should also have the right to kill anyone she comes into contact with. Her body, right? Her choice.
A woman should be able to rob a bank if she so chooses. Her body is so sacred that it trumps the rights of life, liberty, and property for everyone else (except, maybe, another woman, but why make this complicated).
You might say that's not what you're saying, but that is precisely what you're saying. You are ignoring the baby's right to life.
@WerewolfOfTheWater Oh, now you're calling the baby a parasite. Goebbels could've used your talent for dissembly.
Basically, you've completely missed the whole point. You have to completely ignore the rights of the baby in order to justify homocide. That's no different than declaring women to be superior creatures, and can murder anyone they choose because it is their body and nobody can impose anything on them.
@MaxxTheMerciless You have yet to even address anything I said in regards to the rights of women, so don't give me that crap. I don't say women are superior creatures, only that they're equal creatures to men, with the same rights as men, to not have to give up their rights for an embryo since no man is ever forced to give up his rights for someone else.
@WerewolfOfTheWater Yes I did! You're just too fevered in hysterics to even comprehend what I said. I do consider the rights of the woman involved. I just don't see them as superior to anyone else's rights. Not to the baby's, not even to the father's.
The father has every right to that child. Sure. It's his, isn't it? Suppose he wanted an abortion, and demanded it against the will of the mother. Does he have a right to do that?
@MaxxTheMerciless The father doesn't get to make medical choices for a woman just because he had sex with her. Even if the embryo is his, it's still in the WOMAN'S body and it's ultimately her choice to decide what path to take. Should they talk about it, discuss it, etc? Absolutely, but one person shouldn't be able to force a medical choice on anyone else, period.
@WerewolfOfTheWater But that is the man's child every bit as the woman's. But the correct answer is, no, not because that's the woman's body, but because that is a separate human life growing inside her.
@WerewolfOfTheWater Oh, and that is bullshit that no man is ever forced to give up his rights to someone else. Obviously you're a child of the modern age with no personal responsibilities.
In America, the instant a man puts his penis inside a woman, his range of rights begins to deplete. In this country, a woman can falsely accuse a man of rape, falsely declare him to be the father, falsely accuse him of a crime, and never be held to account for it. cont...
@WerewolfOfTheWater cont.. If they ever instituted the draft again, men will be called upon to give up whatever they're doing to join the military. Women are never called upon to do that. It's women and children first in the life-rafts when the boat is sinking. A man is expected to bear a lot more punishment, endure a lot more injustices, and provide subsistence and income for the women in their lives. Women are not expected to do that. Ever.
@MaxxTheMerciless They sure do treat babies like a disease. They have all sorts of baby preventatives like it is a cancer and then when someone has an unwanted pregnancy, they kill it. Only a small amount of women have abortions for medical reasons and only indirect abortions are ethically acceptable. Not direct abortion. That is direct killing of a child.
@misspiccola11 It's their way of dissembling the truth of the situation. Look at how Werewolf there characterizes what a baby is, and how he has to resort to strawman tactics.
@MaxxTheMerciless Quit your lying and hypocrisy. You're the one who's been putting words in my mouth and using straw men, which you won't even address anymore. You've been arguing against things I've NEVER said, which is the very definition of a strawman argument. You couldn't even defend yourself when I caught you in your lies. Pathetic. You wouldn't know truth if it hit you in the face.
@WerewolfOfTheWater But a baby is not a bank. It is a baby. It doesn't care how it got there.
You act as though the man who raped a woman (or was raped by the woman - it certainly happens) had absolute control over his sperm. The only control he has is if he decides to put it inside a woman's body. After that, it's roughly a 20% chance, all things considered, for a pregnancy to occur.
The pregnancy is not a crime, nor an infection, nor a disease. It is a life.
@MaxxTheMerciless I'm saying that by banning abortions for rape victims, you're creating a new incentive for rape. You realize there are some sick fucks out there who would want to ensure their seed spreads, or get a kick out of doing it by force. They could go around raping women, with the knowledge that they can't abort it, that it's legally protected. Sure they might go to jail (rapists actually are very unlikely to go to jail) but they still achieved their goal and had it legally protected.
@WerewolfOfTheWater That is bullshit too! No, it won't. Rape is all about sex and pleasure. In the days when abortions were generally illegal there was no rampant rape going on. It happened, but it was rare. People were a lot more decent then they were now because of a lot of factors that have since deteriorated since the arrival of various things, namely the Pill, no fault divorce, the spread of pornography, and other things, but that's another topic.
@MaxxTheMerciless I didn't say pregnancy was a disease or a crime, however, that doesn't mean pregnancy is good for everyone. Sorry, but it's just not, that's just a fact. There are lots of things that aren't crimes or diseases, owning an alaskan malamute isn't a crime or a disease either, but that doesn't mean everyone is up to the task.
@WerewolfOfTheWater More strawman bullshit. Yes, you did. You equated pregnancy to an imposition equivalent to rape, then you equated the pregnancy to a parasitic condition. And you call me a liar? You're better at it.
This was fun. Look, I know you just want to murder babies so you can keep fucking without consequence. Just so you know, it won't change the fact that you condone murder, and that's the truth, moreso than equating me to promoting rape, which is false.
@MaxxTheMerciless Do you even know what a strawman is, because you keep arguing against things I've never said, which is the definition of a straw man argument. I never said pregnancy was rape, I said that FORCING A WOMAN TO GIVE BIRTH against her will is rape. That's what YOU'RE doing. I didn't say ANYTHING about actions or choices of the embryo. LEARN TO READ.
Also, you still haven't explained why people should be punished for sex.
@WerewolfOfTheWater It is you that needs to learn to read. You are the greatest purveyor of hack I've ever seen.
Forcing a woman to give birth against her will is not rape. It is respecting life. Rape is forced sexual intercourse, not forced pregnancy. What you said is a strawman fallacy, designed to redefine an act of murder into something more palatable for you and your disgusting ilk who would find any reason to murder someone at their pleasure.
@MaxxTheMerciless If you're raped and get pregnant, it is forced pregnancy you fucking moron. You didn't ask for the sex or for the child. Fetuses aren't even sentient until the first month of the third trimester and a majority of abortions are within the first two months. "Anyway, 88-92% of all abortions happen during the first trimester, prior to the 13th week of gestation (AGI/CDC)."
@MaxxTheMerciless Kelly Seppy is either a liar or had an atypical experience. My friend who was married and got pregnant despite her methods of birth control. When she went to the appointment they asked what she wanted to do. If she wanted counseling or an abortion. An appointment for abortion was made. She was asked 3 TIMES before they did it. When she arrived, at the ultrasound, & before the procedure. She met the doctor. It wasnt a painful procedure.
@MaxxTheMerciless Murder is defined as the unlawful act of killing a human being, so technically you're the ones redefining murder to fit your agenda, if you want to play that game.
It's not "respecting life" to totally ignore the life of the women (or girl) you disrespect.
You obviously don't even know what a strawman is...you won't even address the strawman arguments you made yourself. Hypocrite.
@WerewolfOfTheWater No, we're not. You are. You and your ilk have to both redefine murder and devalue human life to justify your act. You are no better than Nazis.
@MaxxTheMerciless "Forcing a woman to give birth against her will is not rape. It is respecting life."
What the fucking fuck, I cannot believe anyone would say that. Let's see: FORCING a woman do something with her body AGAINST HER WILL is somehow respecting life. What about HER life? Don't you respect it? How sad that you think a non-sentient fetus is more important than a woman with hopes and dreams.
@yakataah Of course I respect her life. But why is her life more important than that baby's? Why do you want to murder a child for something it is not responsible for?
@MaxxTheMerciless Because most abortions happens in the first trimester when its just a ball of cells and isn't viable or has consciousness? A full grown women has people who care for her, she has already contributed to society, she has skills, talents, emotions, and memories; a ball of cells does not. So yeah, she is worth more than a zygote. That ball of cells also has a 20% chances of being miscarried naturally. Out of 5,000,000 pregnancies we had last year, 1,000,000 didn't make it.
@MaxxTheMerciless There are no babies or children involved in abortions. There are zygotes, embryos and fetuses involved, none of which are sentient or considered people
So of course her life, her hopes and her dreams are more important. Nothing and no one has the right to occupy her uterus without her consent
I think it's absolutely disgusting that you willingly admit that you will FORCE another human being to give up their body autonomy. Do you understand the implications?
@MaxxTheMerciless If you want to go around calling people murderers because they disagree with you, then be prepared to take what you dish out. Don't want to be called pro-rape then stop calling people murderers. It's not murder to care more about a raped woman's rights than an insentient embryo.
@WerewolfOfTheWater I didn't call you a murderer. And you told me I need to learn to read? I called you pro-murder. You condone murder, and you create rationalizations and charades to justify it.
We're done here. You're just a hack. And you're human trash.
@MaxxTheMerciless If Werewolf is pro-murder then you are pro-rape, pro-oppression of women and pro-slut shaming. You give excuses to treat women like they are nothing more than human incubators, taking their rights as people away.
You're worse than a hack. You live in a little cloud of denial were the only women who want abortions are godless sluts. What's worse, you try to influence how the laws of a country are passed based on your misinformation.
@MaxxTheMerciless YOU are devaluing WOMEN by making them out to be nothing more than human incubators. You take away their lives, their hopes and their dreams because you think it's more important to force them to remain pregnant than to let them decide what to do with their own bodies. So I'm a scumbag for thinking that women are more important than non-sentient fetuses?
There is no strawman in my argument. In fact, I think you don't even know what the word means.
@yakataah You are a scumbag for devaluing life, and using any excuse for it. Psychopaths do that.
I am not devaluing women. On the contrary, by valuing life, including her own, I also recognize why women need protection, why we need to do what we can to promote better behaviors that lead to success and happiness in life. There is a reason why marriage is the best arrangement for sex and family, and why it's important to abstain from sex before marriage. You're too stupid to understand.
@MaxxTheMerciless Yeah, because wanting women to be able to live up to their potential and be able to make their own choices in life without fear of being shamed or attacked is AN EXCUSE. It's not like it's a legit concern or anything. Nope.
@yakataah That is another dodge from the issue, more dissembly. That is all you have! We're laughing our asses off over here. More dodges, more adhomem, and more dissembly. Keep at it!
@yakataah Look, kid. The truth of Abortion has nothing whatsoever to do with women's rights. None whatsoever. I know that's hard to understand, but maybe you might want to mull that over.
@yakataah But, you never answered who it benefits the most. It isn't women, that's for sure. but nice try. Whatever makes you feel better, because the truth is too painful.
@MaxxTheMerciless Ohhhh, I soo evil! I'm the worst of the worst because I want other people to be able to live their own lives without having their bodies controlled by narrow-minded lunatics! Clearly I am Satan!
@MaxxTheMerciless So apparently now answering a direct question is dissembly too.
Max's method for persuasive argument: scream "dissembly! dissembly! dissembly! Ad hominem! dissembly!" add a personal insult and wait for opposing party to give up out of sheer frustration. Claim you were right all alone, have victory fap.
@MaxxTheMerciless Fun fact: married women with children also want abortions. So much for THAT theory of yours. 6 out of 10 women who have abortions already had one or more children. Most of them say they have an abortion to be able to better care for the children they already have.
@yakataah Moron. Just spend a minute or two thinking about who it benefits the most. You can't even do that, can you? But, at least you admit that abortions are mostly about convenience.
@MaxxTheMerciless Who benefits the most? Let'see...women who don't have to give up their jobs, their health and their dreams because they were forced to have children. Men who were not forced to pay for alimony for children they didn't want. Society because unwanted children are not clogging up the foster care and there are less single mothers on welfare. The world in general because overpopulation is a big problem. I could go on if you want.
@yakataah The only reason why married women want abortions is because they are most likely using contraception so they cannot even differentiate between the two. The word matrimony literally means, "duty of motherhood" in Latin. Not "duty to control childbirth and kill children that are unwanted when you can provide for them in a functioning family". People are putting owning a new car before human life thanks to materialism! So much for human rights... cars have more rights.
@misspiccola11 Sorry, honey, but I'm not interested in your outdated gender roles and your slut-shaming. Come back when you have a real point to make.
For the record, the majority of mothers who have abortions are on the lower income bracket and cite caring better for their already born children as a reason not to have more. Furthermore, marriage does not guarantee income or even a "functional family" as you call it. What planet do you live in?
@yakataah Stop speaking condescendingly. Your attitude won't get you anywhere. Stop putting words in my mouth and saying I am "slut-shaming" what kind of language is that? So disgusting. My point is real, your being IRRESPONSIBLE having sex when you cannot afford a child. There is NOTHING wrong with spacing children when you have economic reasons, but to kill them is another thing. To kill them when you can afford to have them is WRONG whether you like it or not. U need to make sacrifices.
@misspiccola11 Abortion does not kill children. There are no children nor babies involved in abortion.
Slut-shaming is exactly what you're doing. You're judging other people as irresponsible and wrong without knowing the context or their circumstances. You have no right to put on airs and act superior because they don't conform to YOUR standards of when and how sex is done. It's none of your business when and how people have sex.
@yakataah "Abortion does not kill children". Not in your head it doesn't. But in the real world clearly it does. "It's none of your business when and how people have sex." Stupid comment no. 3. Think about the world you live in and you're realise that from start to finish our entire existence is social and interrelated. Which is why in the country I'm currently in (England) MY TAX MONEY is used to pay for other people's abortions, STD tests & contraception. So, 3 in a row. Congratulations.
@mattinuk Yeah, abortion is not the act of killing children in my head. Guess who else does NOT consider it to be the killing of children? Letsee...at least half the population, the majority of government and most medical practitioners. So according to you the "real word" actually means "people who agree with mattinuk". Right.
@yakataah Given your other comments, I'd say you're completely delusional.
Who cares what the majority of government thinks in this regard? I'm not interested in their opinion of what constitutes a human being, because, like you, they can devalue anything for political advantage. Most medical practitioners do consider an unborn baby to be a human being, otherwise most wouldn't perform abortions. You're a liar. And worse. You're a horrible human being.
@MaxxTheMerciless "Who cares what the majority of government thinks in this regard?" You call ME the delusional one? Who cares what the majority government thinks? YOU should care about what the majority government thinks. You know why? Because the majority government dictates what becomes a law and what outdated practices are stopped.
Anyone with a degree in science, especially someone who studied obstetrics and/or pediatrics knows the difference between a baby and a fetus.
@MaxxTheMerciless Please give me a source that confirms that "most medical practitioners do consider an unborn baby a human being" because it sounds like something you made up.
Ah, slander and emotional manipulation, an anti-choice classic. Try to be more original instead of boring me.
Liar? I can confirm all my information. If you want, I will send links from unbiased websites to your inbox about any inquiries you have.
@mattinuk So because a fraction of your tax money covers other people's health expenses YOU'RE going to be the new lord and master of what people do? Are you going to follow people around and tell them not to use cars, because they might get into an accident and use YOUR precious tax money to survive? Jesus Christ.
You don't control every aspect of other people's lives EVEN IF they use your taxes to lead healthy lives. You're not the Sex Police, so STFU about other's people's sex lives
@misspiccola11 Abortion does not kill children. There are no children nor babies involved in abortion.
Slut-shaming is exactly what you're doing. You're judging other people as irresponsible and wrong without knowing the context or their circumstances. You have no right to put on airs and act superior because they don't conform to YOUR standards of when and how sex is done. It's none of your business when and how people have sex.
@yakataah Considering the leap of logic you had to take here, I can see you're not quite a stable person. I haven't taken anyone's rights away, because there are no rights to take away in this situation. I do not consider anyone a godless slut for getting an abortion, but I do support a church's decision to excommunicate someone on that basis, because justice has to be done on some level. A church cannot condone that action any more it would condone any other murder.
@MaxxTheMerciless Yes, you ARE taking women's rights away when you tell them what they can or cannot do with their own bodies. Forcing a woman to stay pregnant when she does not want to be pregnant is a violation of her body autonomy. You support the violation of women, and that's wrong.
I don't give rat's ass who the church excommunicates or thinks is moral. We do not live in a theocracy. Don't like abortions? Don't have one. But don't shove your morals down anyone's throat
@yakataah But a baby's life is not less important than anyone else's. A woman's body is not anymore important than the baby's, or anyone else's. A pregnancy is not a violation, it is a condition, incidental to the act of sex. To state that this says that I endorse the violation of women is deranged. One situation is separate from the other, and the fact you can't see that makes you not only a psychopath, but an idiot to boot.
@MaxxTheMerciless If the woman's life is equally important to the fetus' (it's not a "baby") then she still has the right to take it out of her body. Why? Because no one has the right to use someone's blood and internal organs without her consent.
If someone were to get run over by a car tomorrow and they needed a blood transfusion to live, would the government be ethically correct in taking YOUR blood without your consent to save this person? No, of course not.
@yakataah No, but that's not what we're talking about, is it. Why do you keep dissembling from the issue? You're avoiding the topic about the Life that is not anymorre sacred than any other.
@MaxxTheMerciless Actually, that's exactly what we're talking about. A fetus uses a woman's blood to remain alive. That's all well and dandy when the woman consents to this.
But if the government cannot FORCE you to give blood to SAVE someone (and you consider life sacred and all), why should the woman be FORCED to give blood to the fetus? Are all pregnant women inferior to you? Is that why their rights seem irrelevant to your perspective?
@yakataah But, a baby isn't forcing anything on anyone. It simply does what is natural. By your logic, we should eradicate all eggs from a woman's ovaries. Because they're all potential parasites.
And the fetus actually forces itself on the uterine wall. It does not ask a woman's consent before implantation. Any action on a woman's body without her consent is wrong.
It depends on the woman. If the woman does not want any children EVER, she could ask the doctor to be clinically sterilized. Do you have a problem with that or something?
@MaxxTheMerciless Yeah, insult me, because that's a REAL persuasive argument!
Just because one is separate from the other in YOUR mind, it does not mean it's separate in the VICTIM'S mind. If a victim of sexual abuse cannot separate her attack from her pregnancy, she has the right to terminate it without apologizing to narrow-minded people like you. It's so sad that you have so little empathy for rape victims. That's why I call you anti-woman.
@yakataah But it's all you have - ad hominem and dissembly from the truth, which are both lies. You are evil, a liar, and I'm am real sick of people like you.
@MaxxTheMerciless Blah, blah, blah, more insults and still no arguments to actually support your cause.
Sorry to burst your denial bubble, but I have lots: I have facts, I have statistics, I have testimonials from real women whose lives were saved by abortion. I have logic and truth on my side.
What is on your side? Slut-shaming, religious dogma and misogyny.
Yeah, I'm evil because I care about women more than non-sentient fetuses. Caring about women is BAAAD.
@MaxxTheMerciless I like how you immediately jump to calling my arguments strawmen or calling me mentally unbalanced. Typical response of an anti-choicer who would rather remain in denial than hear facts and truth.
Here's a thought: why don't you prove my arguments are wrong? Show everyone how I'm making strawmen and how I should get my head checked out. I'm sure we will all be in awe of your intelligent and thoughtful arguments.
@yakataah Well, you are, given how you have to take the leap from rationality to say I support rape. You have to devalue human life, just like Werewolf did, in order to justify murder, then you have to equate the condition of pregnancy with the crime of rape, which are two separate things, and you have no problem with putting someone to death who had nothing whatsoever to do with a crime. All for what? That's how psychopaths justify murder.
@MaxxTheMerciless Except murder is by definition the "killing of a person" and fetuses are not persons.
And I think your brain has to be low in connections if you don't realize how related and similar rape and forced pregnancy are. They are incredibly correlated and they cannot be separated, no matter how much you want to shame the victims into doing what YOU think is right for them, instead of letting THEM decide what is right for themselves. Trust women.
fail. SUPPORT PLANNED PARENTHOOD!!!!
spiff225 6 days ago
wow, so much lies.
i didnt know god liked liars.
i know he hates women, but fuck.
MsRobotRock 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
because the hundreds of rape victims take comfort in the fact that they'd be forced to have their rapist's bastard child
warpedwiselegoman 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
lol.
ApathyPersonified 1 week ago
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
WeEatBrainz 1 week ago
Enjoy the overpopulation and lack of resources that comes with it, you stupid fucks.
walterThe88th 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos 10
Well done for making this video. Make more.
mattinuk 1 week ago
@misspiccola11 Also you have to realize that sometimes abortion IS the sacrifice Maybe the family wanted to have more children, but this pregnancy came too soon and if the woman takes ANY time off work in maternity leave she could lose her job and the family loses the mortgage and the house and everything goes to shit for them
And yet people like you would brand this abortion "for convenience" (because feeding the children they already have is convenient? and call the woman an irresponsible slut
yakataah 1 week ago 5
@yakataah "you have to realize that sometimes abortion IS the sacrifice" This is one of the most stupid comments I think I've ever heard. Congratulations.
mattinuk 1 week ago
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@mattinuk So when a woman who really, really wanted a baby but must abort due to medical reasons and it breaks her heart to do so is STUPID to you, not sad. Congratulations, you're a heartless robot. Register your brain unit at the nearest service centre, android SFG-36, since it's obviously due for maintenance.
yakataah 1 week ago
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@misspiccola11 Abortion does not kill children. There are no children nor babies involved in abortion.
Slut-shaming is exactly what you're doing. You're judging other people as irresponsible and wrong without knowing the context or their circumstances. You have no right to put on airs and act superior because they don't conform to YOUR standards of when and how sex is done. It's none of your business when and how people have sex.
yakataah 1 week ago
Skip to 1:28
You're welcome
Shenanigans33 1 week ago
Skip to 1:30
You're welcome
Shenanigans33 1 week ago
theres a reason this only has a thousand views
hugeismyname 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
why do you care more about a fetus then all the people who are actually alive and getting killed by our military or dying of starvation now. shouldn't you put more energy into people who never be?
tisjinxremoving 1 week ago
hahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah lol
tisjinxremoving 1 week ago
Bit weird that the video called "Planned parenthoods victims" only has one victim in it; a woman who wanted planned parenthood to provide a psychologist as well as a doctor.
JackShandyful 1 week ago
Good job J!
GuabeGarcia 1 week ago
Evil always disguises itself as being good and helpful. If you do just an ounce of research on pp, you would understand what their true intentions are under the myth they are helping. This destructive behavior will destroy us and turn us into sex crazed demons. I rebuke thee
Standonarock 1 week ago
Planned Parenthood is evil, thanks for revealing their true corruption.
redhairedflare 1 week ago
This video was good but the girl who speaks first, speaks too quietly.
wms72 1 week ago
What about all the women who die because they needed an abortion to save their life, and you were here to block them from it? What about your victims?
MrOhnozombies 2 weeks ago
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@MrOhnozombies
"What about all the women who die because they needed an abortion to save their life"
Oh I get it.. so all these abortions are done to save women's lives. Right.
So tell us something - if the situation arises will you kill your child, so that you can live ? Hey its all about saving your life.
MrJamesthecatholic 2 weeks ago
@MrOhnozombies Such people don't exist. This is a myth put out by the abortionist agenda, and it's a deflection. There is no condition that justifies the death of a child to save the life of the mother. However, let's say such women do actually exist, how does that justify the millions of murders conducted out of convenience thanks to Abortion?
MaxxTheMerciless 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@MaxxTheMerciless Such people do, in fact exist. Rick Santorum's wife?
MrOhnozombies 2 weeks ago
@MrOhnozombies No, they don't. It's an abortionist myth. There is no medical condition that warrants the execution of the baby to save the life of the mother. You've been fooled. When was an abortion performed for her? I've been looking, and I can't find it. I can't find a single instance where she had an abortion. Could you clarify?
MaxxTheMerciless 2 weeks ago
@MaxxTheMerciless What a surprise, an anti-choicer with misogynistic videos on his channel
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@WerewolfOfTheWater What a surprise. A mangina and an idiot.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Ah, typical anti-choicer resorting to sexist insults.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Ah, a typical pro-murderer who resorts to false premises and smokescreens to mask his real agenda. And a mangina.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
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WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless You're the one who wants women to die when a pregnancy threatens her life. Denying someone medical attention when they have a life-threatening complication is murder. You're the pro-murderer, and sexist.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Your the one who wants to murder babies. Also, you're the sexist. I'm merely asking women to take responsibility for their actions for a change.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Abortion is a way to take responsibility when that is the best thing to do, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't taking responsibility. How am I a sexist for wanting women the freedom to make their own sexual and reproductive choices? And how is "mangina" not a sexist insult? Do you think Jesus would approve of that?
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater No, it isn't.
An abortion is a form of contraception, nothing more. More than 90% are conducted for reasons other than rape or incest, and if you think about it, they're all conducted for reasons of convenience.
If a woman wants to have the freedom to make healthy sexual and reproductive choices, there's a better way. It's called abstinence before Marriage. Works every single time it's tried, and the people are happier for it. Avoids a lot of problems.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless 60% of rapes aren't reported, so many more are probably due to rape than you think, and if you actually look up statistics about abortion you'd find that a large percentage of women who get abortions ARE married. Just because you're married doesn't mean you can have a kid yet. Get the stereotypes out of your head and actually understand women who get abortions before spewing crap.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Oh sure, that ol' rape shibboleth. Now you're just being a hack.
Kid, rapes have nothing to do with abortions, and they are no excuse to have them. What did the baby do to warrant a death sentence?
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Why do you idiots always assume that if a raped woman gets an abortion she's doing it to "punish" the embryo? That's a complete load. You're saying that if a woman is raped she should be re-victimized by being forced to give birth against her will. What did SHE do to deserve being punished? You realize that means men who wanted to spread their seed forcefully could then do so and have it legally protected? You're sickening.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Not to mention just outright denying reality. If you honestly think there's NEVER any situation in which an abortion is medically necessary to save a woman's life, you're either completely deluded or you just want women to die. Even other anti-choicers will admit that abortion is sometimes necessary in a medical emergency, but you're just on a whole different level of deluded.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater If anything it is YOU that denies reality by promoting a false premise. There is never a situation in which an abortion is medically necessary. I know, because I talk to obstetricians about this. There are all kinds of ways to save both lives. You and your pro-murdering ilk just don't want to hear about it so you can fornicate without any bearing any consequences for your actions.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless What obstetrician have you "talked to"? Can you cite a credible source? I didn't think so.
What's wrong with having sex without consequence? If people can have sex without hurting themselves or anyone else, why not let them? Why do you insist on punishing people, particularly women, for having sex? You clearly want to reduce women to pieces of property by controlling their sexuality.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Why do you insist on murdering a child for the actions of its parents? Cite me one obstetrician who believes abortion is absolutely necessary to save the life of the mother, and I'll show you an abortionist - because they don't exist.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Nice try, but you have yet to cite the obstetricians you're talking about who insist that it never happens. It's just common knowledge that sometimes pregnancies can threaten the woman's life, even others on your side can admit that. Sorry buddy but the world isn't perfect and not every pregnancy works out, just accept that fact.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Why should I? You're the one creating the smokescreen.
Sure, a pregnancy can threaten the life of the mother, but there are ways to remedy it, and you're the one who's trying to create the false premise that the child must be murdered in order to save the mother.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
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misspiccola11 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless All your credibility went out the window when you said there is no way not having an abortion will kill a woman. Educate yourself.
yakataah 1 week ago
God Bless you ALL,
From PROLIFE advocates here in the Philippines!
gahnz45 2 weeks ago in playlist More videos from AmericanLifeLeague
If you're not for sex and health education for women and easy access to contraception then you have no business thinking you have a reasonable opinion regarding Planned Parenthood.
integral 3 weeks ago
@integral You have no idea what sex is. Health education has NOTHING to do with encouraging and providing abortion options. That is not "healthy". A baby is NOT a disease. Health care is something you get when you have an illness that needs covering. A baby is NOT an infection that needs to be controlled by "birth control" products. There is no "birth" and there is no "control" in birth control. Why do people want the option to kill there children to be available?
misspiccola11 2 weeks ago
@misspiccola11 Nobody said a baby was a "disease" but that doesn't mean it's good or healthy for everyone to have one.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@integral If you believe that women are animals who can't be made responsible for the choices they make, then you have no business thinking you have a reasonable opinion on anything. This is what birth control has done to women; it has objectified them from being responsible human beings to becoming sex objects. When 1 in 4 teenage girls in America has an STD, that is due largely to the kind of sex education YOU advocate.
MaxxTheMerciless 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@MaxxTheMerciless Actually there are several medical conditions that require an abortion, when a woman you know has an embryo implant itself in the Fallopian tubes instead of the uterus, well I hope that never happens since you would just tell her to die. Birth control exists so women can enjoy sex by their own choice, it doesn't make them objects, what makes them objects is reducing them to nothing more than baby-incubators.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@WerewolfOfTheWater That's such a rare event, but even so there are remedies for it that don't require the premeditated murder of the child or the death of the mother. And no, birth control has turned women into sex objects for men, and men into additional sources of cash for women. It changes the mindset. Look how girls and women dress 20,30, 40, 50 years ago compared with today. Look at the increase in teenage pregnancy compared to decades ago.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Um, no, there really isn't. What "remedies" are you talking about, can you cite a source for how reliable they are? Second, teenage pregnancy rates are highest in southern, republican states, rape rates are highest in countries where women don't have access to birth control. Birth control has done the exact opposite of what you claim, sorry bro. Don't you realize that women enjoy sex too, it's not just men?
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater For one, in the case of an embryo that doesn't come out of the fallopian tube they can rescue the embryo with a very simple procedure that inserts a camera into the tube and pushes the embryo out, or, if absolutely necessary, extracts it, but they can do wonders now that saves every life.
Ummm, cite that source where teenage pregnancy rates are higher in southern Republican states.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Simply do a google search, you'll find the info on it, I'm still waiting for you to cite your own sources, so do that before asking for mine.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless You realize by "extracting" it that's an abortion right? Wow you're real fuckin smart.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater You can save the baby in one of two ways - through an incubation process or reinserting it into the uterus.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless If pregnancy NEVER threatens a woman's life, then how do you explain the fact that over 500,000 women die during childbirth every year, and many many more suffer permanent damage from it, many of which could have been prevented by access to birth control or abortion services? Do all those women who died during childbirth just...never exist, in your deluded fantasy?
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Cite that statistic, please. 500,000 women? Where? Not in the West.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Exactly, not in the west, because people in the west HAVE ACCESS TO BIRTH CONTROL AND ABORTION. In countries where they don't, women DIE because of it. Google it. Why do you keep asking me to cite statistics when you won't even cite any of yours? Hypocrite.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Also, the false premise of the so-called ectopic pregnancy is such that if the embryo begins to become a problem for the mother, then the child is already dead anyway. Often, this can be found well before it becomes a problem, and if the embryo doesn't push out on its own then surgery can correct that problem.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless "so called"? Are you just outright denying the existence of a medical condition now? You really are just living in a fantasy land.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Because it's YOU, pro-murderer, that's making the assertions! Show me where it is vital to murder a child to save the mother's life and cite your source. I can cite sources, but I'm not the one making the assertion that abortion is necessary at all, on a pro-life video.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless And, cite that 500,000 number, please. It probably has nothing whatsoever to do with birth control and abortion.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless You're the one who claimed that abortion is never necessary citing nothing other than someone you "talked" to and when I asked you to identify who it was you refused to answer. Pro-rapist.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater What would it matter, pro-murderer? You wouldn't believe it anyway.
You're citing one condition that's like getting struck by lightning, and even so the procedures both before 1999 and after to correct the problem do not directly kill the baby. That is a smokescreen meant to deflect the issue.
Also, how does saving the lives of human beings equate me to being pro-rapist? Only an idiot could make that claim. But, you are pro-murder.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
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WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Wow, what a leap in logic. No, idiot. I do not support rapists for the same reason I don't support murder, which means I actually think a baby has 5th Amendment rights to due process before being sentenced to death. What is the greater crime, I wonder? To rape an innocent person, which is a tragedy, or to murder an innocent life?
If anything, I'm also pro-Justice. You are just pro-sex.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless The rape of a fully sentient person, and then re-victimizing them through forced childbirth is infinitely worse than terminating an insentient, non-thinking embryo. To force a woman through childbirth after she was raped, just makes you no better than the rapist. Forcing a woman through a bodily ordeal she doesn't want to do, IS basically rape.
Justice is not allowing a rapist to spread his seed forcefully then have it legally protected while re-victimizing his victim.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater No it's not. Now you're resorting to hysterics. Rape is wrong, but so is Murder. Your rationalizations do not change the fact that that embryo is a human being, with a life and a right to life. Nor do they give you the excuse to murder someone who has every right to live, just as much as you have the right not to be raped. Plus, abortion doesn't change the fact of rape. And in fact, women who have abortions suffer severe emotional trauma they may never recover from.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Actually that's a myth, studies have shown a lot of women DON'T suffer any trauma after abortions, some do, but that's the consequence of a choice they made, a choice they should be allowed to make, women don't need you to "protect" them from their own choices. Sometimes people make choices they regret, that's life, but that doesn't mean those choices should all be illegal. They certainly don't need you forcing childbirth on them after they were raped, either.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Cite that study!
I'll cite mine, moron.
About Abortion (.org) website presents a list of major psychological effects of abortion.
Look up CMF (Christian Medical Fellowship) about the effects of abortion on the mother.
Plenty of stuff from Britain about the issue.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless And what percentage of women who get abortions actually feel those effects? That is key, bro, and plus you're citing a pro-life website. How about citing something that isn't cherry-picking info in order to promote an agenda?
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater So what if I am citing a pro-life website? They're far more truthful than anything pro-abortion websites cite. I mean, after all, abortion is a cash industry, and a sacrament to the Left.
How about the BBC? Plenty of articles relating to that topic.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Even if embryos were human beings, that wouldn't justify making abortion illegal when it comes to rape, because right to life doesn't mean that embryo gets to use the woman's body against her will. If someone is dying of kidney failure, nobody can force you to donate a kidney to them, so why should women have to give up their rights for something they never asked for, when NO ONE ELSE does?
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater The embryo isn't making a choice in the matter. First, you say that the embryo isn't sentient, then you are claiming that it is making a conscious choice to further "rape" the mother. Which is it? The baby did not choose to be there.
I mean, look what you have to do to justify murder. You first have to create the false scenario, then use the moral outrage of rape to excuse murder. I mean, the Nazis couldn't do it better.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless I didn't say it made the conscious choice to do anything, you're putting words in my mouth. Didn't Jesus say something about lying? I said that YOU are advocating the rape of women because YOU want to force them into a bodily trauma against their will through the government. I didn't say anything about embryos making any choices. Embryos are not capable of making choices any more than the chair I'm sitting on is.
False scenerio? Please, you're outright lying at this point.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater You are lying. I am not advocating rape. It take the stupidity of a hack to make that conclusion. Just because I value the life of both MOTHER and CHILD doesn't mean I supported the rape. Only a moron comes to that conclusion. Just because I don't approve of the rape doesn't mean I approve of the murder of the baby that was conceived.
You said that embryos force a woman to be pregnant, thus implying they had a choice in it.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless You don't value the life of the mother at all, don't lie to yourself. If you valued the life of the woman you wouldn't completely ignore her needs and expect a RAPED woman to give them all up for an embryo, when no one else in society is expected to relinquish their rights for anyone else, even to save their life. If you didn't hate women then you wouldn't say that they're responsible for a situation brought on by RAPE.
And no I didn't say that at all, liar.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater That is a lie. Of course I value the life of the mother. But a rape is not a murder. Look what you are doing. Rape is tragic, but murder is the end of a LIFE. After a rape, a woman can go on with her life. She's still alive. That doesn't make rape right. Rape is a crime. Murder is a crime. Two wrongs don't make a right.
You're constantly making strawman arguments.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater By your logic, a woman should also have the right to kill anyone she comes into contact with. Her body, right? Her choice.
A woman should be able to rob a bank if she so chooses. Her body is so sacred that it trumps the rights of life, liberty, and property for everyone else (except, maybe, another woman, but why make this complicated).
You might say that's not what you're saying, but that is precisely what you're saying. You are ignoring the baby's right to life.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
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WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Oh, now you're calling the baby a parasite. Goebbels could've used your talent for dissembly.
Basically, you've completely missed the whole point. You have to completely ignore the rights of the baby in order to justify homocide. That's no different than declaring women to be superior creatures, and can murder anyone they choose because it is their body and nobody can impose anything on them.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless You have yet to even address anything I said in regards to the rights of women, so don't give me that crap. I don't say women are superior creatures, only that they're equal creatures to men, with the same rights as men, to not have to give up their rights for an embryo since no man is ever forced to give up his rights for someone else.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Yes I did! You're just too fevered in hysterics to even comprehend what I said. I do consider the rights of the woman involved. I just don't see them as superior to anyone else's rights. Not to the baby's, not even to the father's.
The father has every right to that child. Sure. It's his, isn't it? Suppose he wanted an abortion, and demanded it against the will of the mother. Does he have a right to do that?
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless The father doesn't get to make medical choices for a woman just because he had sex with her. Even if the embryo is his, it's still in the WOMAN'S body and it's ultimately her choice to decide what path to take. Should they talk about it, discuss it, etc? Absolutely, but one person shouldn't be able to force a medical choice on anyone else, period.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater But that is the man's child every bit as the woman's. But the correct answer is, no, not because that's the woman's body, but because that is a separate human life growing inside her.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Oh, and that is bullshit that no man is ever forced to give up his rights to someone else. Obviously you're a child of the modern age with no personal responsibilities.
In America, the instant a man puts his penis inside a woman, his range of rights begins to deplete. In this country, a woman can falsely accuse a man of rape, falsely declare him to be the father, falsely accuse him of a crime, and never be held to account for it. cont...
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater cont.. If they ever instituted the draft again, men will be called upon to give up whatever they're doing to join the military. Women are never called upon to do that. It's women and children first in the life-rafts when the boat is sinking. A man is expected to bear a lot more punishment, endure a lot more injustices, and provide subsistence and income for the women in their lives. Women are not expected to do that. Ever.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
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@MaxxTheMerciless They sure do treat babies like a disease. They have all sorts of baby preventatives like it is a cancer and then when someone has an unwanted pregnancy, they kill it. Only a small amount of women have abortions for medical reasons and only indirect abortions are ethically acceptable. Not direct abortion. That is direct killing of a child.
misspiccola11 1 week ago
@misspiccola11 It's their way of dissembling the truth of the situation. Look at how Werewolf there characterizes what a baby is, and how he has to resort to strawman tactics.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Quit your lying and hypocrisy. You're the one who's been putting words in my mouth and using straw men, which you won't even address anymore. You've been arguing against things I've NEVER said, which is the very definition of a strawman argument. You couldn't even defend yourself when I caught you in your lies. Pathetic. You wouldn't know truth if it hit you in the face.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless If the bank was inside my uterus, then yes, I could rob it all I fucking wanted.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater But a baby is not a bank. It is a baby. It doesn't care how it got there.
You act as though the man who raped a woman (or was raped by the woman - it certainly happens) had absolute control over his sperm. The only control he has is if he decides to put it inside a woman's body. After that, it's roughly a 20% chance, all things considered, for a pregnancy to occur.
The pregnancy is not a crime, nor an infection, nor a disease. It is a life.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless I'm saying that by banning abortions for rape victims, you're creating a new incentive for rape. You realize there are some sick fucks out there who would want to ensure their seed spreads, or get a kick out of doing it by force. They could go around raping women, with the knowledge that they can't abort it, that it's legally protected. Sure they might go to jail (rapists actually are very unlikely to go to jail) but they still achieved their goal and had it legally protected.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater That is bullshit too! No, it won't. Rape is all about sex and pleasure. In the days when abortions were generally illegal there was no rampant rape going on. It happened, but it was rare. People were a lot more decent then they were now because of a lot of factors that have since deteriorated since the arrival of various things, namely the Pill, no fault divorce, the spread of pornography, and other things, but that's another topic.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless I didn't say pregnancy was a disease or a crime, however, that doesn't mean pregnancy is good for everyone. Sorry, but it's just not, that's just a fact. There are lots of things that aren't crimes or diseases, owning an alaskan malamute isn't a crime or a disease either, but that doesn't mean everyone is up to the task.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater More strawman bullshit. Yes, you did. You equated pregnancy to an imposition equivalent to rape, then you equated the pregnancy to a parasitic condition. And you call me a liar? You're better at it.
This was fun. Look, I know you just want to murder babies so you can keep fucking without consequence. Just so you know, it won't change the fact that you condone murder, and that's the truth, moreso than equating me to promoting rape, which is false.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Do you even know what a strawman is, because you keep arguing against things I've never said, which is the definition of a straw man argument. I never said pregnancy was rape, I said that FORCING A WOMAN TO GIVE BIRTH against her will is rape. That's what YOU'RE doing. I didn't say ANYTHING about actions or choices of the embryo. LEARN TO READ.
Also, you still haven't explained why people should be punished for sex.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater It is you that needs to learn to read. You are the greatest purveyor of hack I've ever seen.
Forcing a woman to give birth against her will is not rape. It is respecting life. Rape is forced sexual intercourse, not forced pregnancy. What you said is a strawman fallacy, designed to redefine an act of murder into something more palatable for you and your disgusting ilk who would find any reason to murder someone at their pleasure.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless If you're raped and get pregnant, it is forced pregnancy you fucking moron. You didn't ask for the sex or for the child. Fetuses aren't even sentient until the first month of the third trimester and a majority of abortions are within the first two months. "Anyway, 88-92% of all abortions happen during the first trimester, prior to the 13th week of gestation (AGI/CDC)."
fatalyersinia 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Kelly Seppy is either a liar or had an atypical experience. My friend who was married and got pregnant despite her methods of birth control. When she went to the appointment they asked what she wanted to do. If she wanted counseling or an abortion. An appointment for abortion was made. She was asked 3 TIMES before they did it. When she arrived, at the ultrasound, & before the procedure. She met the doctor. It wasnt a painful procedure.
fatalyersinia 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Murder is defined as the unlawful act of killing a human being, so technically you're the ones redefining murder to fit your agenda, if you want to play that game.
It's not "respecting life" to totally ignore the life of the women (or girl) you disrespect.
You obviously don't even know what a strawman is...you won't even address the strawman arguments you made yourself. Hypocrite.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater No, we're not. You are. You and your ilk have to both redefine murder and devalue human life to justify your act. You are no better than Nazis.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless "Forcing a woman to give birth against her will is not rape. It is respecting life."
What the fucking fuck, I cannot believe anyone would say that. Let's see: FORCING a woman do something with her body AGAINST HER WILL is somehow respecting life. What about HER life? Don't you respect it? How sad that you think a non-sentient fetus is more important than a woman with hopes and dreams.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah Of course I respect her life. But why is her life more important than that baby's? Why do you want to murder a child for something it is not responsible for?
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Because most abortions happens in the first trimester when its just a ball of cells and isn't viable or has consciousness? A full grown women has people who care for her, she has already contributed to society, she has skills, talents, emotions, and memories; a ball of cells does not. So yeah, she is worth more than a zygote. That ball of cells also has a 20% chances of being miscarried naturally. Out of 5,000,000 pregnancies we had last year, 1,000,000 didn't make it.
RolloT1247 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless There are no babies or children involved in abortions. There are zygotes, embryos and fetuses involved, none of which are sentient or considered people
So of course her life, her hopes and her dreams are more important. Nothing and no one has the right to occupy her uterus without her consent
I think it's absolutely disgusting that you willingly admit that you will FORCE another human being to give up their body autonomy. Do you understand the implications?
yakataah 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless If you want to go around calling people murderers because they disagree with you, then be prepared to take what you dish out. Don't want to be called pro-rape then stop calling people murderers. It's not murder to care more about a raped woman's rights than an insentient embryo.
WerewolfOfTheWater 1 week ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater I didn't call you a murderer. And you told me I need to learn to read? I called you pro-murder. You condone murder, and you create rationalizations and charades to justify it.
We're done here. You're just a hack. And you're human trash.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless If Werewolf is pro-murder then you are pro-rape, pro-oppression of women and pro-slut shaming. You give excuses to treat women like they are nothing more than human incubators, taking their rights as people away.
You're worse than a hack. You live in a little cloud of denial were the only women who want abortions are godless sluts. What's worse, you try to influence how the laws of a country are passed based on your misinformation.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah That is a strawman fallacy. It doesn't work. You are a scumbag who devalues human life for your convenience. That is a fact.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless YOU are devaluing WOMEN by making them out to be nothing more than human incubators. You take away their lives, their hopes and their dreams because you think it's more important to force them to remain pregnant than to let them decide what to do with their own bodies. So I'm a scumbag for thinking that women are more important than non-sentient fetuses?
There is no strawman in my argument. In fact, I think you don't even know what the word means.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah You are a scumbag for devaluing life, and using any excuse for it. Psychopaths do that.
I am not devaluing women. On the contrary, by valuing life, including her own, I also recognize why women need protection, why we need to do what we can to promote better behaviors that lead to success and happiness in life. There is a reason why marriage is the best arrangement for sex and family, and why it's important to abstain from sex before marriage. You're too stupid to understand.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Yeah, because wanting women to be able to live up to their potential and be able to make their own choices in life without fear of being shamed or attacked is AN EXCUSE. It's not like it's a legit concern or anything. Nope.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah That is another dodge from the issue, more dissembly. That is all you have! We're laughing our asses off over here. More dodges, more adhomem, and more dissembly. Keep at it!
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Who is laughing? You and all your imaginary friends?
Pro tip: calling all your opponents arguments ad hominem is an an ad hominem since you are obviously not even reading.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah Whatever, kid.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Aww, idle widdle Maxie didn't like it when I pointed out his hypocrisy. Ain't that cute?
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah Look, kid. The truth of Abortion has nothing whatsoever to do with women's rights. None whatsoever. I know that's hard to understand, but maybe you might want to mull that over.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Wow, you really blew my mind with your lack of logic.
Abortion has EVERYTHING to do with women's rights, genius. Who gets pregnant? Hint: it's not men!
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah But, you never answered who it benefits the most. It isn't women, that's for sure. but nice try. Whatever makes you feel better, because the truth is too painful.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Why don't you enlighten me then? Who benefits the most? C'mon, tell me, I could use a laugh!
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah You can't be enlightened. Only defeated. You are evil.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 day ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Ohhhh, I soo evil! I'm the worst of the worst because I want other people to be able to live their own lives without having their bodies controlled by narrow-minded lunatics! Clearly I am Satan!
yakataah 1 day ago
@yakataah Think about this - who, in general, favors abortion more? Don't look up statistics. Think about it.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Simple: sane people who don't hate women.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah More dissembly. Don't you ever actually think, or do you just read from Planned Parenthood's website?
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless So apparently now answering a direct question is dissembly too.
Max's method for persuasive argument: scream "dissembly! dissembly! dissembly! Ad hominem! dissembly!" add a personal insult and wait for opposing party to give up out of sheer frustration. Claim you were right all alone, have victory fap.
yakataah 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Fun fact: married women with children also want abortions. So much for THAT theory of yours. 6 out of 10 women who have abortions already had one or more children. Most of them say they have an abortion to be able to better care for the children they already have.
/watch?v=rY-bQ6UzhNI
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah Moron. Just spend a minute or two thinking about who it benefits the most. You can't even do that, can you? But, at least you admit that abortions are mostly about convenience.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Who benefits the most? Let'see...women who don't have to give up their jobs, their health and their dreams because they were forced to have children. Men who were not forced to pay for alimony for children they didn't want. Society because unwanted children are not clogging up the foster care and there are less single mothers on welfare. The world in general because overpopulation is a big problem. I could go on if you want.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah You don't pay alimony for children. But, keep thinking. You almost actually got it. You almost touched on it.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@yakataah The only reason why married women want abortions is because they are most likely using contraception so they cannot even differentiate between the two. The word matrimony literally means, "duty of motherhood" in Latin. Not "duty to control childbirth and kill children that are unwanted when you can provide for them in a functioning family". People are putting owning a new car before human life thanks to materialism! So much for human rights... cars have more rights.
misspiccola11 1 week ago
@misspiccola11 Sorry, honey, but I'm not interested in your outdated gender roles and your slut-shaming. Come back when you have a real point to make.
For the record, the majority of mothers who have abortions are on the lower income bracket and cite caring better for their already born children as a reason not to have more. Furthermore, marriage does not guarantee income or even a "functional family" as you call it. What planet do you live in?
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah Stop speaking condescendingly. Your attitude won't get you anywhere. Stop putting words in my mouth and saying I am "slut-shaming" what kind of language is that? So disgusting. My point is real, your being IRRESPONSIBLE having sex when you cannot afford a child. There is NOTHING wrong with spacing children when you have economic reasons, but to kill them is another thing. To kill them when you can afford to have them is WRONG whether you like it or not. U need to make sacrifices.
misspiccola11 1 week ago
@misspiccola11 Abortion does not kill children. There are no children nor babies involved in abortion.
Slut-shaming is exactly what you're doing. You're judging other people as irresponsible and wrong without knowing the context or their circumstances. You have no right to put on airs and act superior because they don't conform to YOUR standards of when and how sex is done. It's none of your business when and how people have sex.
yakataah 1 week ago
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mattinuk 1 week ago
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@yakataah "Abortion does not kill children". Not in your head it doesn't. But in the real world clearly it does. "It's none of your business when and how people have sex." Stupid comment no. 3. Think about the world you live in and you're realise that from start to finish our entire existence is social and interrelated. Which is why in the country I'm currently in (England) MY TAX MONEY is used to pay for other people's abortions, STD tests & contraception. So, 3 in a row. Congratulations.
mattinuk 1 week ago
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@mattinuk Yeah, abortion is not the act of killing children in my head. Guess who else does NOT consider it to be the killing of children? Letsee...at least half the population, the majority of government and most medical practitioners. So according to you the "real word" actually means "people who agree with mattinuk". Right.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah Given your other comments, I'd say you're completely delusional.
Who cares what the majority of government thinks in this regard? I'm not interested in their opinion of what constitutes a human being, because, like you, they can devalue anything for political advantage. Most medical practitioners do consider an unborn baby to be a human being, otherwise most wouldn't perform abortions. You're a liar. And worse. You're a horrible human being.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 day ago
@MaxxTheMerciless "Who cares what the majority of government thinks in this regard?" You call ME the delusional one? Who cares what the majority government thinks? YOU should care about what the majority government thinks. You know why? Because the majority government dictates what becomes a law and what outdated practices are stopped.
Anyone with a degree in science, especially someone who studied obstetrics and/or pediatrics knows the difference between a baby and a fetus.
yakataah 1 day ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Please give me a source that confirms that "most medical practitioners do consider an unborn baby a human being" because it sounds like something you made up.
Ah, slander and emotional manipulation, an anti-choice classic. Try to be more original instead of boring me.
Liar? I can confirm all my information. If you want, I will send links from unbiased websites to your inbox about any inquiries you have.
yakataah 1 day ago
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@mattinuk So because a fraction of your tax money covers other people's health expenses YOU'RE going to be the new lord and master of what people do? Are you going to follow people around and tell them not to use cars, because they might get into an accident and use YOUR precious tax money to survive? Jesus Christ.
You don't control every aspect of other people's lives EVEN IF they use your taxes to lead healthy lives. You're not the Sex Police, so STFU about other's people's sex lives
yakataah 1 week ago
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@misspiccola11 Abortion does not kill children. There are no children nor babies involved in abortion.
Slut-shaming is exactly what you're doing. You're judging other people as irresponsible and wrong without knowing the context or their circumstances. You have no right to put on airs and act superior because they don't conform to YOUR standards of when and how sex is done. It's none of your business when and how people have sex.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah Considering the leap of logic you had to take here, I can see you're not quite a stable person. I haven't taken anyone's rights away, because there are no rights to take away in this situation. I do not consider anyone a godless slut for getting an abortion, but I do support a church's decision to excommunicate someone on that basis, because justice has to be done on some level. A church cannot condone that action any more it would condone any other murder.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Yes, you ARE taking women's rights away when you tell them what they can or cannot do with their own bodies. Forcing a woman to stay pregnant when she does not want to be pregnant is a violation of her body autonomy. You support the violation of women, and that's wrong.
I don't give rat's ass who the church excommunicates or thinks is moral. We do not live in a theocracy. Don't like abortions? Don't have one. But don't shove your morals down anyone's throat
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah But a baby's life is not less important than anyone else's. A woman's body is not anymore important than the baby's, or anyone else's. A pregnancy is not a violation, it is a condition, incidental to the act of sex. To state that this says that I endorse the violation of women is deranged. One situation is separate from the other, and the fact you can't see that makes you not only a psychopath, but an idiot to boot.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless If the woman's life is equally important to the fetus' (it's not a "baby") then she still has the right to take it out of her body. Why? Because no one has the right to use someone's blood and internal organs without her consent.
If someone were to get run over by a car tomorrow and they needed a blood transfusion to live, would the government be ethically correct in taking YOUR blood without your consent to save this person? No, of course not.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah No, but that's not what we're talking about, is it. Why do you keep dissembling from the issue? You're avoiding the topic about the Life that is not anymorre sacred than any other.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Actually, that's exactly what we're talking about. A fetus uses a woman's blood to remain alive. That's all well and dandy when the woman consents to this.
But if the government cannot FORCE you to give blood to SAVE someone (and you consider life sacred and all), why should the woman be FORCED to give blood to the fetus? Are all pregnant women inferior to you? Is that why their rights seem irrelevant to your perspective?
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah But, a baby isn't forcing anything on anyone. It simply does what is natural. By your logic, we should eradicate all eggs from a woman's ovaries. Because they're all potential parasites.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Fetus, Max, it's a fetus. Not a baby.
And the fetus actually forces itself on the uterine wall. It does not ask a woman's consent before implantation. Any action on a woman's body without her consent is wrong.
It depends on the woman. If the woman does not want any children EVER, she could ask the doctor to be clinically sterilized. Do you have a problem with that or something?
yakataah 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Yeah, insult me, because that's a REAL persuasive argument!
Just because one is separate from the other in YOUR mind, it does not mean it's separate in the VICTIM'S mind. If a victim of sexual abuse cannot separate her attack from her pregnancy, she has the right to terminate it without apologizing to narrow-minded people like you. It's so sad that you have so little empathy for rape victims. That's why I call you anti-woman.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah But it's all you have - ad hominem and dissembly from the truth, which are both lies. You are evil, a liar, and I'm am real sick of people like you.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Blah, blah, blah, more insults and still no arguments to actually support your cause.
Sorry to burst your denial bubble, but I have lots: I have facts, I have statistics, I have testimonials from real women whose lives were saved by abortion. I have logic and truth on my side.
What is on your side? Slut-shaming, religious dogma and misogyny.
Yeah, I'm evil because I care about women more than non-sentient fetuses. Caring about women is BAAAD.
yakataah 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless I like how you immediately jump to calling my arguments strawmen or calling me mentally unbalanced. Typical response of an anti-choicer who would rather remain in denial than hear facts and truth.
Here's a thought: why don't you prove my arguments are wrong? Show everyone how I'm making strawmen and how I should get my head checked out. I'm sure we will all be in awe of your intelligent and thoughtful arguments.
yakataah 1 week ago
@yakataah Well, you are, given how you have to take the leap from rationality to say I support rape. You have to devalue human life, just like Werewolf did, in order to justify murder, then you have to equate the condition of pregnancy with the crime of rape, which are two separate things, and you have no problem with putting someone to death who had nothing whatsoever to do with a crime. All for what? That's how psychopaths justify murder.
MaxxTheMerciless 1 week ago
@MaxxTheMerciless Except murder is by definition the "killing of a person" and fetuses are not persons.
And I think your brain has to be low in connections if you don't realize how related and similar rape and forced pregnancy are. They are incredibly correlated and they cannot be separated, no matter how much you want to shame the victims into doing what YOU think is right for them, instead of letting THEM decide what is right for themselves. Trust women.
yakataah 1 week ago