i think im gonna start a religion. it all started in a galaxy far far away, in a time and space unknown. Lord vador and his evil empire seek universal domination, but the forces for good, the wookies and yoda are our last chance to save humanity from vadors evil reign. yoda and his followers live in a platium base in the earths core. earths real name is "henry the 8th" being the 8th planet from the sun. our mission is rid the universe of vador and restore its former glory. Whos in?
"What a fucking stupid religion". As opposed to what? Do you know of any religion that is not fucking stupid? Talking burning bushes, and people living inside whales?
@UseYerEFFINBrain yeah but those religions tell you what they believe, most of the time without needing to be a member. i think you need to read more on scientology's relationship with its followers, critics, and the internet
Yes, these beliefs are absurd but, people, this isn't all this church has that is crazy. Watch interview with ex-scientologists and in your mind it'll go from harmless xenu religion to terrifying corporate cult.
Anyone who doesn't understand how people get sucked into this (or don't leave after many years) haven't looked into how this cult operates.
On my list it's right under Islam. That's how BAD it is. It's a black hole in society.
the beliefs of scientology are pretty ubsurd. but how ubsurd compared to ther religions? the immaculate conception of christ. the appearance of angels to muhammed. the list is vast. if we are to berate one belief system because it seems crazy, surely we have to look at all religious claims with equal contempt...
And there's evidence that scientology does that too, along with forcing abortion, child abuse, neglect, unjust litigation, treason, assault, extortion, libel, slander, and allegations of murder. And all of this is relatively recent. To my mind, that makes it definitely more disconcerting.
@janus70 more disconcerting than the thousands of years the church has done the same? more disconcerting than condemning thousands of africans to death by refusing to let followers use condoms? more disconcerting than institutionalised paedophilia that is covered up by even the highest ranking officials? more disconcerting than the human rights abuses and lack of basic rights for women in the muslim world? scientology is tiny and it's crimes insignificant compared to the major religions...
And how many of those crimes are backed up by catholic dogma? Aren't most Catholics appalled that these things took place? Disconnection, fair game, extortion, and treason were all implemented policies of the church of scientology., and, left to their own devices, they'll happen again. I'm not condoning what crimes took place in Catholicism, but at least they have the grace to pretend to be sorry. Scientology calls all critics liars and just keeps at it.
@janus70 "the grace to pretend to be sorry"? you're kidding right? surely the biggest is crime is making catholics believe that it's ok for the church to do whatever they want. perspective: the catholic church can claim to have a billion followers, most whom will blindly believe anything the vatican says. the church of scientology cannot claim more than a few hundred thousand members worldwide. to compare the suffering inflicted by catholic church to that inflicted by scientology is absurd...
You're entitled to your opinion, of course. The difference, as far as I'm concerned, is that Scientology perpetuated the largest single infiltration of any modern government, and yet denies that the event ever took place, though court records exist prove it. Scientology was granted an unconstitutional specialized form of tax exemption in the U.S. that no other religion enjoys, and it's still in place. Because of this, I consider scientology the greater threat, as do many others.
@janus70 well, being a european, i can see how that would be worrying. the governments on this side of the pond have tirelessly tried, and in some cases succeded, in banning scientology as a dangerous cult. we certainly wouldn't give them any special treatment, we reserve that for islam (which i might add is in control of many governments) and catholicism...
lol. religion is for suckers. period. I do not have a religion but I can tell you, religion does nothing but muddle peoples perceptions of each other... you can't have holy wars without religion... and belief is not spelled believe. (practice your tenses and grammar on page 44 of your notebook)
- the scilons are too busy trying to run Tory Magoo under their space craft to answer to any FACTS about - L. Ron blathering on~~~ like a demented SCI-FI fiction writer? - and the DENIAL by that cult member? - was BEGGING for a body language expert! - with her shrugs and looking away to her left for support and fear of the questioner asking anything else about this "Xenu"! (after 3 generations NOT figuring THAT out - its OFFICIAL! they ARE the DUNCES of the UNIVERSE - along with L.Ron & Tom)
I recommend anyone, scientologist, Anon, non-scieno, anti-scieno, ex-scieno, critic, whatever, to read "The Pilot," a scientologist who wants and is anonymously calling for reform within the 'church.' He's not with the freezone, he says and he does not agree with current mgmt., either. He also says how from the 50's to the late 60's (he got in, in '66) there was no 'secrecy' about any of this.
It is true, you can pick up a book like "Have You Lived Before This Life" or "History of Man" or listen to taped lectures, and find all kind of space opera that's not "confidential."
So what are they protecting then? They're only safeguarding, not technology -there's an HCO PL (Hubbard Communication Office Policy Letter) by that name: "Safeguarding Technology"- they're protecting their profits. How many would pay hundreds of thousands to "learn" this tripe? It's not even good science fiction.
I wish at the end, that they would have revealed just exactly why scientologists aren't supposed to talk about scientology doctrine: they're afraid if you learn the "truth" before you're absolutely prepared to do so, that you'll catch pneumonia, or spontaneously combust and die or some other nonsense.
No, it's Xenu affecting his mind! It's those damn body-theetans...Take him to a $cn indoctrination center - he needs a delusional psychotic implantation pronto! Tell'em Jason Beghe sent you. lol
Jason Beghe has BiG "cojones" He tells it like it is & is putting himself on the line. $cn WILL kill him if they have a chance. A lot of moolah, y'know?
And what's wrong with Kate? "That's sad, isn't it?" (turning to her husb) No, you're sad, Kate! She's OTVII & has been exorcising BTs since OTIII
Wha? Since when is Kate Holmes OT7? They're pushing her along the bridge uber fast if she is. Poor naive girl. She needs to run like hell and take innocent young Suri with her.
No, not that Kate. I don't know where she is on the Bridge to nowhere. I meant Kate, the singer who says "Wow, that's sad, isn't it?" (and turns to her husband, Lee Rogers) after Beghe says "If $cn's real, then sumpin's f'ed up. It ain't delivering what is promised. That's for god damn sure." I can't spell her last name. Sobrano? The tabloids DO say Katie Holmes isn't too happy w/ Tom cause of $cn. I believe the same's going to happen with her as Nicole who didn't want to raise her kids in $cn.
Wouldn't that be awesome if Nicole came forward and started talking about $cn? Unless she like, killed a man in Thailand or something. Cus, the scilons would know and that would be why she isn't talking lul. *sigh* gotta love videotaped confessionals + blackmail.
Yeah, that would be. We need another big celeb like Jason Beghe to come out and start talking. That would be totally devastating to $cn. Maybe Travolta who just lost his son due to their beliefs. Though I hear he's working on getting Miley Cirus in and that would royally suck if she got in. Will Smith keeps denying he's a $cns but I saw a video of him on a talk show and he sure sounds like one. He gave a million to that school who uses LRH's study tek.
L.R. Hubbard was taking a "psych drug" when he died. This is not unusual in itself, since bitter old men often go psychotic when dying. What earns the fact a place on this web site is that Scientology® Inc. has an insane fear and loathing of the mental health profession and "psych drugs." Witnesses testified that Hubbard died a raving lunatic.
We do not wish to confirm or deny belief in aforementioned hypothetical alien overlord. But if you run that we're totally gunna sue you for violating our copyright....
This dude was a science fiction writer. Can anyone see why this is all fucking wrong?
KilgannonParanormal 2 weeks ago
Thank you for helping to expose this cult
Shutterbug1000 5 months ago
i think im gonna start a religion. it all started in a galaxy far far away, in a time and space unknown. Lord vador and his evil empire seek universal domination, but the forces for good, the wookies and yoda are our last chance to save humanity from vadors evil reign. yoda and his followers live in a platium base in the earths core. earths real name is "henry the 8th" being the 8th planet from the sun. our mission is rid the universe of vador and restore its former glory. Whos in?
Alkhemist10 8 months ago
All Scientologists are brainwashed con artists!!! Ship them all to Somalia in a boat!!!!
mattringler 10 months ago
christianity is a false belief? FUCK YOU L RON HUBBARD!
MYkelloGs 10 months ago
what a fucking stupid religion aliens and spaceships and people in denial who ever beleaves in this needs a catscan asap
james51446 1 year ago
"What a fucking stupid religion". As opposed to what? Do you know of any religion that is not fucking stupid? Talking burning bushes, and people living inside whales?
UseYerEFFINBrain 1 year ago
@UseYerEFFINBrain yeah but those religions tell you what they believe, most of the time without needing to be a member. i think you need to read more on scientology's relationship with its followers, critics, and the internet
Aarodynamicshiphop 1 year ago
Hubbard would make an awesome campfire story teller. I'd listen to this crap while eating S'mores.
SouthernWhiteTrash 1 year ago
xenu looks alot like john travolta
kombatarts 1 year ago 3
Very interesting - and worrying - that Beghe didn't believe it but he accepted it.
Steve7508 1 year ago
stupid ppl man wow
SEANMiXBOYLA 1 year ago
3:23 words of wisdom. LoL
The4LA2Baker0 1 year ago
Yes, these beliefs are absurd but, people, this isn't all this church has that is crazy. Watch interview with ex-scientologists and in your mind it'll go from harmless xenu religion to terrifying corporate cult.
Anyone who doesn't understand how people get sucked into this (or don't leave after many years) haven't looked into how this cult operates.
On my list it's right under Islam. That's how BAD it is. It's a black hole in society.
Odonus2 1 year ago
the beliefs of scientology are pretty ubsurd. but how ubsurd compared to ther religions? the immaculate conception of christ. the appearance of angels to muhammed. the list is vast. if we are to berate one belief system because it seems crazy, surely we have to look at all religious claims with equal contempt...
TheWordOfBod 1 year ago
@TheWordOfBod
Christianity and Muslim doesn't charge you hundreds of thousands of dollars to learn their doctrines.
janus70 1 year ago
@janus70 no, they guilt trip you into giving them your money which they then use to defend child rapists...
TheWordOfBod 1 year ago
@TheWordOfBod
And there's evidence that scientology does that too, along with forcing abortion, child abuse, neglect, unjust litigation, treason, assault, extortion, libel, slander, and allegations of murder. And all of this is relatively recent. To my mind, that makes it definitely more disconcerting.
janus70 1 year ago
@janus70 more disconcerting than the thousands of years the church has done the same? more disconcerting than condemning thousands of africans to death by refusing to let followers use condoms? more disconcerting than institutionalised paedophilia that is covered up by even the highest ranking officials? more disconcerting than the human rights abuses and lack of basic rights for women in the muslim world? scientology is tiny and it's crimes insignificant compared to the major religions...
TheWordOfBod 1 year ago
@TheWordOfBod
And how many of those crimes are backed up by catholic dogma? Aren't most Catholics appalled that these things took place? Disconnection, fair game, extortion, and treason were all implemented policies of the church of scientology., and, left to their own devices, they'll happen again. I'm not condoning what crimes took place in Catholicism, but at least they have the grace to pretend to be sorry. Scientology calls all critics liars and just keeps at it.
janus70 1 year ago
@janus70 "the grace to pretend to be sorry"? you're kidding right? surely the biggest is crime is making catholics believe that it's ok for the church to do whatever they want. perspective: the catholic church can claim to have a billion followers, most whom will blindly believe anything the vatican says. the church of scientology cannot claim more than a few hundred thousand members worldwide. to compare the suffering inflicted by catholic church to that inflicted by scientology is absurd...
TheWordOfBod 1 year ago
@TheWordOfBod
You're entitled to your opinion, of course. The difference, as far as I'm concerned, is that Scientology perpetuated the largest single infiltration of any modern government, and yet denies that the event ever took place, though court records exist prove it. Scientology was granted an unconstitutional specialized form of tax exemption in the U.S. that no other religion enjoys, and it's still in place. Because of this, I consider scientology the greater threat, as do many others.
janus70 1 year ago
@janus70 well, being a european, i can see how that would be worrying. the governments on this side of the pond have tirelessly tried, and in some cases succeded, in banning scientology as a dangerous cult. we certainly wouldn't give them any special treatment, we reserve that for islam (which i might add is in control of many governments) and catholicism...
TheWordOfBod 1 year ago
hahaha hilarious they believe in aliens hahaha
steffwp 1 year ago 2
Jesus Saves :)
Madkillr05 2 years ago 2
money at wal-mart...
TheWordOfBod 1 year ago
I thank L. Ron Hubbard for getting people to question every religion.
RegressLess 2 years ago 3
Ra-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-taa!!!
lol
spamviking 2 years ago 3
Many thanks for posting
StopUnumNow 2 years ago 3
christianity IS theoretical beLIEve , and does NOT deliver the heart of man , occupying its psyche .....
duchodziej 2 years ago 2
lol. religion is for suckers. period. I do not have a religion but I can tell you, religion does nothing but muddle peoples perceptions of each other... you can't have holy wars without religion... and belief is not spelled believe. (practice your tenses and grammar on page 44 of your notebook)
MobiusAnimations 2 years ago
COOL STORY BRO
levo75 2 years ago 3
Excellent Report
AlphaDragonOmega 2 years ago 3
- the scilons are too busy trying to run Tory Magoo under their space craft to answer to any FACTS about - L. Ron blathering on~~~ like a demented SCI-FI fiction writer? - and the DENIAL by that cult member? - was BEGGING for a body language expert! - with her shrugs and looking away to her left for support and fear of the questioner asking anything else about this "Xenu"! (after 3 generations NOT figuring THAT out - its OFFICIAL! they ARE the DUNCES of the UNIVERSE - along with L.Ron & Tom)
memama2 2 years ago 3
celebrity cult!!
i damn near shat my pants when i saw this on today tonight! very impressed
lulzdrama 2 years ago 3
Isn't it funny how the comments of scientologists are curiously absent...whats the matter scilons Hubbard got your tongue?
AnonSwitch13 3 years ago 6
Supreme Rulah!
Cloggerzzz 3 years ago 5
wow L ron was a mad man hahahha
AnonymousEvery1No1 3 years ago 11
@AnonymousEvery1No1 no just a sociopath.
1ProbablyHateYou 1 year ago
after 15 years in the cult, I tell you we were taught to lie in favor of the church, or cult
hangover71 3 years ago 8
Holy crap Today Tonight actually did something factually accurate.
314noceu 3 years ago 14
I recommend anyone, scientologist, Anon, non-scieno, anti-scieno, ex-scieno, critic, whatever, to read "The Pilot," a scientologist who wants and is anonymously calling for reform within the 'church.' He's not with the freezone, he says and he does not agree with current mgmt., either. He also says how from the 50's to the late 60's (he got in, in '66) there was no 'secrecy' about any of this.
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 4
It is true, you can pick up a book like "Have You Lived Before This Life" or "History of Man" or listen to taped lectures, and find all kind of space opera that's not "confidential."
So what are they protecting then? They're only safeguarding, not technology -there's an HCO PL (Hubbard Communication Office Policy Letter) by that name: "Safeguarding Technology"- they're protecting their profits. How many would pay hundreds of thousands to "learn" this tripe? It's not even good science fiction.
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 5
Ra-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta
Anonymous421 3 years ago 6
One thing they should have mentioned was HOW MANY of these theetans were brought to Tee-gee-ack: 250,000,000.000 per planet!!!
Now, that was some operation! 75 planets. It's 1,875 billion or 18.75 TRILLION!!! Well, give or take a few billions. lol
Can any scientologist (or anyone) tell me how many DC-8s Xenu used??? (What the hell am I saying???) lol
Wonderful! Wonderful material for a comedy skit or any comedian.
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 3
I'm Glad us Brits were never gullible enough to fall for this 'clap-trap' !!
What a load of Tripe - Thanks Voland!!??
GrogerG69 3 years ago 4
giggle
thebaddoctor 3 years ago 3
Supreeeeme rooooo-lah
friskyfixedit 3 years ago 4
And he was about 2b "UN-e-leK-TED" lol
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 3
Epic win!
TheSpiderMind 3 years ago 2
I wish at the end, that they would have revealed just exactly why scientologists aren't supposed to talk about scientology doctrine: they're afraid if you learn the "truth" before you're absolutely prepared to do so, that you'll catch pneumonia, or spontaneously combust and die or some other nonsense.
nominalvelocity 3 years ago 3
I can't watch it, have they taken it down already?
GEE SCILONS COULD YOU CENSOR ANY FASTER must have had some good stuff if they got rid of it so quick.
AnonSwitch13 3 years ago
if you can comment, it's not down. You're just having Flash issues or something. It's good =)
HouseSpiderAnon 3 years ago
Its ok nao YAY!
AnonSwitch13 3 years ago 2
No, it's Xenu affecting his mind! It's those damn body-theetans...Take him to a $cn indoctrination center - he needs a delusional psychotic implantation pronto! Tell'em Jason Beghe sent you. lol
Jason Beghe has BiG "cojones" He tells it like it is & is putting himself on the line. $cn WILL kill him if they have a chance. A lot of moolah, y'know?
And what's wrong with Kate? "That's sad, isn't it?" (turning to her husb) No, you're sad, Kate! She's OTVII & has been exorcising BTs since OTIII
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 4
Wha? Since when is Kate Holmes OT7? They're pushing her along the bridge uber fast if she is. Poor naive girl. She needs to run like hell and take innocent young Suri with her.
HouseSpiderAnon 3 years ago 3
No, not that Kate. I don't know where she is on the Bridge to nowhere. I meant Kate, the singer who says "Wow, that's sad, isn't it?" (and turns to her husband, Lee Rogers) after Beghe says "If $cn's real, then sumpin's f'ed up. It ain't delivering what is promised. That's for god damn sure." I can't spell her last name. Sobrano? The tabloids DO say Katie Holmes isn't too happy w/ Tom cause of $cn. I believe the same's going to happen with her as Nicole who didn't want to raise her kids in $cn.
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 4
Wouldn't that be awesome if Nicole came forward and started talking about $cn? Unless she like, killed a man in Thailand or something. Cus, the scilons would know and that would be why she isn't talking lul. *sigh* gotta love videotaped confessionals + blackmail.
HouseSpiderAnon 3 years ago 3
Yeah, that would be. We need another big celeb like Jason Beghe to come out and start talking. That would be totally devastating to $cn. Maybe Travolta who just lost his son due to their beliefs. Though I hear he's working on getting Miley Cirus in and that would royally suck if she got in. Will Smith keeps denying he's a $cns but I saw a video of him on a talk show and he sure sounds like one. He gave a million to that school who uses LRH's study tek.
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 2
L.R. Hubbard was taking a "psych drug" when he died. This is not unusual in itself, since bitter old men often go psychotic when dying. What earns the fact a place on this web site is that Scientology® Inc. has an insane fear and loathing of the mental health profession and "psych drugs." Witnesses testified that Hubbard died a raving lunatic.
jnycnuk 3 years ago 5
"ratta tat tat ratta tatta tat!" holy hell.
sumonomen 3 years ago 3
Win, baby!
Yes, the audio is old news to many of us, but to have it broadcast on TV is pure gold :)
TheEvilOfScientology 3 years ago 4
Gotta love the response from CO$. "We are restricted from speaking about our upper levels" LOL fail.
BKF666 3 years ago 5
We do not wish to confirm or deny belief in aforementioned hypothetical alien overlord. But if you run that we're totally gunna sue you for violating our copyright....
HouseSpiderAnon 3 years ago 4
Good to see Xenu on TV, but that recording has been around a while
CaptPorridge2 3 years ago 2
But this is the first time its been played on TV
zambimaru 3 years ago 2
Kate, Kate, Kate!! I used to admire your soulful voice and bubbly personality but I have to say someone is lying here. I don't think its Jason!!!
openair100 3 years ago 4