WHAT DO YOU THINK,AMAZONE'S INDIAN THEY SPEAK ESPANIOL THEY'RE SPANISH. OR BECAUSE OF SLOVENIN OR RUSSIANS SPEAK SIMILAR LANGUAGE THEY HAVE CLAIMS UPON MAKEDONIA.YOU DON'T REALISED THAT THE HISTORY TALKS.YOU NEVER HEARD FOR A JIRICEK LINE.WHAT IS THIS DELERIUM TREMENS.?PLEASE GROW-UP.
With the occupation of southern Macedonia by Greece in 1912-13. Greece needs its occupied Macedonian territory and created new propaganda to claim the ancient Macedonians as “Greek” Such propaganda is needed to justify the present occupation. This stealing of the Macedonian history by the Greeks is resented by the Macedonians who have long before the Greeks claimed descent from Alexander, and still do.This fact certainly does not give them the "copyright" of the name MACEDONIA.
The Bulgarian Division II is 4.5 km away from the city center and camp overnight in the modern Titan.En Meanwhile the governor of Thessaloniki, Taxim Pasha, negotiates the city surrendered to the Greeks, saying "by the Greeks we got, the Greeks will deliver. "Constantine, however, rejected twice the conditions of the Turkish Commander Pasha Hassan Taxin thereby losing valuable time and imminent capture of Thessaloniki by the Bulgarian army.
@ivankoinarski the funy thing is that i searched the ethnograpies of greece and i didnt fount not even a single document about ethnic makedonskis only bulgarians turks jews some ciganis and greeks
@666Beefman ofcourse there were only greeks.A Macedonian is as much greek as a Thessalian or a Peloponnesean or a Cretan.The ethnographic documents of yugoslavia and greece made by germans in WW2 only refer to greeks , serbs ,bulgarians, jews and muslims...He who doesn't afraid the truth can search that at any time
@PoseidonGRE read black book of comunism and the kke (comunist party of greece ) said the independence of macedonia and thrace and his people about 1912 but he didnt meant the so caled ethnic makedonskis but the jews of thesalonikh who still controll the half town and they never like the new goverment
My grandfather if he was alive he would have told you the horrors of it all. He was from Statisa, Drama, Macedonia. He would have been 103 now. All these people in the region (from all nationalities) had crimes committed against them. So I am not picking sides with anyone. But it is the truth. The Americans and British wanted their way after WWI and lack of knowledge divided up without people asking anyone. That is why there is still so much conflict with the division of this area today.
calm down my friend, greeks were in these lands, thousand years, you only came in 678 or something, A.C. So, stop talking about claiming lands, it is useless. Whatever happened belong to history, we beat you, we lost by turks in 1922, it is over. We all got what we could get, caput.
@panagos381 The Bulgarians are in the Balkans more in the Greeks. The Bulgarians are the Thraco-Illyrian people of the Balkans. The Greeks are Dorians and Ethiopians, they are invaders, while the Bulgarians are autochtonous.
@xxpoonednoobxx even the word 'autochtonous' that u use is greek... :-) Bulgarians are a slavised turkish (asian) nation that appeared in balkans 650 years AFTER Christ. And while being next to the Slavs that came almost at the same time, Bulgarians adopted their language. As about Greeks, the world world knows about ancient Greeks, and their culture, upon which whole world culture and life is based (even now).
Want it or not, Greeks (no matter if there were of many races), arrived in Balkans many thousand years ago. As about Thraco-Illyrians, yes you are right my friend, they were also ancient, but they have nothing to do with bulgarians. As about FYROM, it is just a piece of Bulgaria that happened to be in Yugoslavia. No matter what happened in ancient times, we all were conquered by Turks, and after Greek revolution in 1821, all Balkan countries started the efforts to become independent as well.
Later on, during Balkan wars, all allies tried to free as much as possible land that they could. Balkans were a salad (in bulgarian territory there were many greeks, and in greek territory many Bulgarians). After both wars (the second was started by greedy Bulgarians), English, etc, fixed the borders on a map. And u got a lot more land than u had managed to get by troops (actually in second balkan war u had lost almost everything). So, don't call us invaders, we owe you nothing, u might do...
@panagos381 You see dear neighbors the deference between us(the Greeks) and you is that we are well educated..as you can see our friend panagos here has a very well integrated opinion because he has read books and he has not been brainwashed.Do the same, open different books and then you will be able to open your eyes but most important your brains..!!Macedonia used to be a nation in the past,that at the present time all Balkan nations besides Albania have a peace.
@xxpoonednoobxx Dear as i mentioned before,open a book,but you besides opening a historic one,please see where Ethiopia is on the map.And when you look,let me know of the resemble we as Greeks have with them..i am looking forward!!
you know its funny evetyone who opposes your cheap propaganda from greece you call him SHITHEAD or LIAR eventho tho whole world knows the truth and tell me what happened in 1913? or before it? Egean part was macedonian not greek. so you stole our ladn who gives a fuck a? and now you want to steal out history keep on dreaming you fucking son of a bitch
"It is historically proven that the Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia was created by Stalin, Tito and Dimitrov, aiming at the stealthy removal of a large part of Northern Greece. This Republic was used during the period 1944-1949 in order to destabilise Greece" -- US deputy Foreign Minister Mr. Thomas Niles
Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". - Strabo
WHAT DO YOU THINK,AMAZONE'S INDIAN THEY SPEAK ESPANIOL THEY'RE SPANISH. OR BECAUSE OF SLOVENIN OR RUSSIANS SPEAK SIMILAR LANGUAGE THEY HAVE CLAIMS UPON MAKEDONIA.YOU DON'T REALISED THAT THE HISTORY TALKS.YOU NEVER HEARD FOR A JIRICEK LINE.WHAT IS THIS DELERIUM TREMENS.?PLEASE GROW-UP.
pyraixmhs 3 weeks ago
With the occupation of southern Macedonia by Greece in 1912-13. Greece needs its occupied Macedonian territory and created new propaganda to claim the ancient Macedonians as “Greek” Such propaganda is needed to justify the present occupation. This stealing of the Macedonian history by the Greeks is resented by the Macedonians who have long before the Greeks claimed descent from Alexander, and still do.This fact certainly does not give them the "copyright" of the name MACEDONIA.
MKISMK1913 1 month ago
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The Bulgarian Division II is 4.5 km away from the city center and camp overnight in the modern Titan.En Meanwhile the governor of Thessaloniki, Taxim Pasha, negotiates the city surrendered to the Greeks, saying "by the Greeks we got, the Greeks will deliver. "Constantine, however, rejected twice the conditions of the Turkish Commander Pasha Hassan Taxin thereby losing valuable time and imminent capture of Thessaloniki by the Bulgarian army.
JIMY45GR 1 month ago
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The name "Macedonia" is in fact the oldest surviving
name of a country in the continent of EUROPE.
Whereas,Greece wasn't united until 1832.
This fact certainly does not give them the
"copyright" of the name MACEDONIA
GOOGLE type "macedonia before 1913"
mkzamk1913 1 month ago
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Makedonia is the biggest region of Greece and the 2nd populous in Greece.It is inhabited by 3,000,000 Makedonians.
12345papas 1 month ago
Makedonia is the biggest region of Greece and the 2nd populous in Greece.It is inhabited by 3,000,000 Makedonians.
12345papas 1 month ago
hahahahahah kolo srbska propaganda!
ivankoinarski 3 months ago
@ivankoinarski the funy thing is that i searched the ethnograpies of greece and i didnt fount not even a single document about ethnic makedonskis only bulgarians turks jews some ciganis and greeks
666Beefman 1 month ago
@666Beefman ofcourse there were only greeks.A Macedonian is as much greek as a Thessalian or a Peloponnesean or a Cretan.The ethnographic documents of yugoslavia and greece made by germans in WW2 only refer to greeks , serbs ,bulgarians, jews and muslims...He who doesn't afraid the truth can search that at any time
PoseidonGRE 1 month ago
@PoseidonGRE read black book of comunism and the kke (comunist party of greece ) said the independence of macedonia and thrace and his people about 1912 but he didnt meant the so caled ethnic makedonskis but the jews of thesalonikh who still controll the half town and they never like the new goverment
666Beefman 1 month ago
My grandfather if he was alive he would have told you the horrors of it all. He was from Statisa, Drama, Macedonia. He would have been 103 now. All these people in the region (from all nationalities) had crimes committed against them. So I am not picking sides with anyone. But it is the truth. The Americans and British wanted their way after WWI and lack of knowledge divided up without people asking anyone. That is why there is still so much conflict with the division of this area today.
MsJPA79 3 months ago
What a ridiculous video full of ahistorical data for people who are unaware of Balkan history.
terry387 3 months ago
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Great video keep up the good work.
tillasmax 3 months ago
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Battles of the Second Balkan War
Name Defending Commander Attacking Commander Date Victor
Kilkis-Lachanas Bulgaria Nikola Ivanov Greece Constantine I 19–21 June 1913 (O.S.) Greece
Doiran Bulgaria Nikola Ivanov Greece Constantine I 22–23 June 1913 (O.S.) Greece
Bregalnica Serbia Bulgaria 17–25 June 1913 (O.S.) Serbia
Demir Hisar Bulgaria Greece Constantine I 27 June 1923 (O.S.) Greece
Kalimanci Bulgaria Serbia 15–18 July 1913 (O.S.) Bulgaria
JIMY45GR 7 months ago
Romania won the Balkan War. Bulgaria should be thankfull the terms of the Bucharest peace Treaty of 1913 were so kind to Bulgaria
danyman88 10 months ago
calm down my friend, greeks were in these lands, thousand years, you only came in 678 or something, A.C. So, stop talking about claiming lands, it is useless. Whatever happened belong to history, we beat you, we lost by turks in 1922, it is over. We all got what we could get, caput.
panagos381 11 months ago
@panagos381 The Bulgarians are in the Balkans more in the Greeks. The Bulgarians are the Thraco-Illyrian people of the Balkans. The Greeks are Dorians and Ethiopians, they are invaders, while the Bulgarians are autochtonous.
xxpoonednoobxx 5 months ago 2
@xxpoonednoobxx even the word 'autochtonous' that u use is greek... :-) Bulgarians are a slavised turkish (asian) nation that appeared in balkans 650 years AFTER Christ. And while being next to the Slavs that came almost at the same time, Bulgarians adopted their language. As about Greeks, the world world knows about ancient Greeks, and their culture, upon which whole world culture and life is based (even now).
panagos381 5 months ago
Want it or not, Greeks (no matter if there were of many races), arrived in Balkans many thousand years ago. As about Thraco-Illyrians, yes you are right my friend, they were also ancient, but they have nothing to do with bulgarians. As about FYROM, it is just a piece of Bulgaria that happened to be in Yugoslavia. No matter what happened in ancient times, we all were conquered by Turks, and after Greek revolution in 1821, all Balkan countries started the efforts to become independent as well.
panagos381 5 months ago
Later on, during Balkan wars, all allies tried to free as much as possible land that they could. Balkans were a salad (in bulgarian territory there were many greeks, and in greek territory many Bulgarians). After both wars (the second was started by greedy Bulgarians), English, etc, fixed the borders on a map. And u got a lot more land than u had managed to get by troops (actually in second balkan war u had lost almost everything). So, don't call us invaders, we owe you nothing, u might do...
panagos381 5 months ago
@panagos381 You see dear neighbors the deference between us(the Greeks) and you is that we are well educated..as you can see our friend panagos here has a very well integrated opinion because he has read books and he has not been brainwashed.Do the same, open different books and then you will be able to open your eyes but most important your brains..!!Macedonia used to be a nation in the past,that at the present time all Balkan nations besides Albania have a peace.
zozokastar 4 months ago
@xxpoonednoobxx Dear as i mentioned before,open a book,but you besides opening a historic one,please see where Ethiopia is on the map.And when you look,let me know of the resemble we as Greeks have with them..i am looking forward!!
zozokastar 4 months ago
your video is shit. you can dream of the aegean sea for the rest of your life and you will die never seeing the aegean sea. now go die shithead.
OlympicAirPilot 1 year ago
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you know its funny evetyone who opposes your cheap propaganda from greece you call him SHITHEAD or LIAR eventho tho whole world knows the truth and tell me what happened in 1913? or before it? Egean part was macedonian not greek. so you stole our ladn who gives a fuck a? and now you want to steal out history keep on dreaming you fucking son of a bitch
patka1982 1 year ago
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SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
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"It is historically proven that the Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia was created by Stalin, Tito and Dimitrov, aiming at the stealthy removal of a large part of Northern Greece. This Republic was used during the period 1944-1949 in order to destabilise Greece" -- US deputy Foreign Minister Mr. Thomas Niles
Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". - Strabo
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago