what i'm thinking is that, let us not put into account that we came out here on earth and start from a scratch. i believed that we are once an advanced civilization so as in our technology long time ago and that i think it relates to the mysteries that is very hard to solved without considering wild ideas.
@abarrathe You troll! LoL Try spelling Germany correctly first. Second, Goseck isn't comparable with Stonehenge. It isn't even a megalithic monument. It has no stones. Yes, Goseck is an interesting and old site, but Germany ain't the centre of the universe! Try looking at Mesopotamia. Far older temples, far more impressive than an earthen ring. You seem to want to make some kind of point bombing every SH link with this material. Do you work there or is this a "mine is bigger than yours" thing?
You can't date stone, you can only date the junk that people leave behind, and that could be anybody, these could be 5,000 years old or 12,000 years old, quite simply you don't know, it's just speculation.
I am curious as to why3 to 6 thousand years ago, in key areas of the Earth vast stone monuments were built. They must have served a purpose. They even exist under water in Japan and in China, South America, Africa....all roughly the same time period. Someone needs to figure out why? There was something common to all these cultures and land masses going on. It wasn't anomalous that this happened. It did serve a purpose. Why...and more to the point, why did this unwritten culture disappear...
@Revival1969 - I don't recall my comment being unorthodox. I'm not even sure what would constitute 'orthodox' when discussing relatively undefinable prehistory.
Oh well, "whatever I said, what ever i did, i didn't mean it"... Oh no, wait that's song lyrics :]
@Revival1969 - I don't recall my comment being unorthodox. I'm not even sure what would constitute 'orthodox' when discussing relatively indefinable prehistory.
Oh well, "whatever I said, what ever I did, I didn't mean it"... Oh no, wait that's song lyrics :]
@ElegantPaws01 These cultures mostly became enveloped by new religions, but in 5000years time people will not understand the significance of our obscure little crosses, 6x sided stars, Aum’s or other ideologies. Due to the close relationship between deceased and living [instances of dwellings built directly on top of tombs/bones of ancestors] it is likely some of these practices/monuments were in direct homage to their ancestors and living for the success of a coming season/harvest/festival.
In Bolivia at Puma Punku they had steel and iron mortices locking giant stones together back in 17,000 - 15,000 BC just before the last nuclear anhilation of the great civilisation of old. Something they forgot to add to the school text books. A little like the sphinx alinged with the constellation Leo back in 12,500 BC. The Proccesional wobble sure was a great discovery..
@1980cossie Either their radiocarbon dates are WILDLY out or you got the wrong end of the stick. Maybe you should try going back to school if you believe this, or maybe that's the problem. I wonder what kids actually do learn in these establishments these days.
Britain also is a land of tin. At one time it was the world's leading supplier of tin. If they could make copper tools, they probably could have made stronger alloys as well. This is not beyond the realm of possibilities.
Ha-Ha, maybe stonehenge where a graveyard for the big men like kings and shamans x) or maybe it was a place of sacrafice for their Gods or ancestors x)
he was my lecturer at sheffield univeristy for roman and iron age archaeology! was always in the pub, and we used to go down and get him... sometimes, we'd go back to the pub after the lecture and have a very informal tutorial :P
We are located in Saxony in the south-eastern of Germany. There we discovered a phenomenon caused by sunlight at several stones. We assume a relation between menhir, dolmen and stone circle. It is also possible to watch a film on youtube: Die steinerne Himmelsscheibe
wow so they lifted 40 tons with hundreds of men and ropes and moved them with rafts? ha ha and they are all surprised that they had metal tools? Big surprise secular history and science doesn't know crap about our real origins. That is why everyone is so lost. that is why "LOST" is the most watched and downloaded television on CBS and nobody even knows why they call CBS COLUMBIA BROADCASTING,
@tcoc112233 No, the ones moved by raft weigh 4-6tons only. These are the bluestones from Wales (150miles) The larger stones you see are a different geology of rock, those are the ones that weigh between 20-50 tons. These came across land from up to 20 miles away. Before you leap to conclusions be sure you have your basic facts right.
@sonofherne I swear im like the only one who is seeing the huge issue with people moving 4-6ton STONES over water...keeping in mind they didnt have giant cruise ships <_<
@GoldenSilence16 Don't be. I was around to see this recreated back in the 90's when they tried to transport a bluestone by raft from Milford Haven. It's possible. Okay, it's not EASY, and the modern attempt failed, but there are several proposed routes they could have taken. Some more easier than others. I have doubts whether the whole trip was infact done by river, only part of the way.
@sonofherne .And remember too, that people were using boats. A large seafaring bronze age ship was found at Dover. After all, Britain, being an Island, had to be reached by water by all but its earliest settlers. The people who arrived in the neolithic would have come by boat,with their possessions and even animals, from the Atlantic coat of Europe.
@sonofherne Try moving a 1000 ton statue in Egypt or a 1000+ ton block in Baalbek then, impossible without breaking it apart, the ancients knew how to easily move massive stone blocks, use them to make complicated structures, and today we can not. Orthodox history is utter bollocks.
@Revival1969 An inability to answer a question as to how something like the stone at Baalbek, an estimated 1,200 tons, simply means that there are things we don't understand, not, that history is bollocks. I am well aware of how smart the ancient prehistoric people were so I don't understand what youre trying to impress on me.I agree.We're discussing Stonehenge at the minute & the average weight of each stone is between 20-48 tons, 5 tons for the bluestones. 10 tons = 100 men needed on average.
@GoldenSilence16 Moving a block of stone that size is not so difficult . I have a Guidebook for stonehenge circa 1960 witha photo of six teenagers using two small boats lashed side by side to transport a full sze concrete replicea of a bluestone up river . they were just poling the craft along . 16 of them could drag it over land using logs as rollers.
i like how all the sudden everyone becomes an Archeologist when they watch this lol !
lowmonte1978 3 weeks ago
The reason you don't find many ancient copper tools is because the metal was more sought after and was re-smelter-ed after the tools were worn out.
gogogeedus 1 month ago
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what i'm thinking is that, let us not put into account that we came out here on earth and start from a scratch. i believed that we are once an advanced civilization so as in our technology long time ago and that i think it relates to the mysteries that is very hard to solved without considering wild ideas.
gingerbread185 1 month ago
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gingerbread185 1 month ago
look up goseck circle and learn that the garmenys were the most advance in solar observation during the neolthic
abarrathemaster 6 months ago
@abarrathe You troll! LoL Try spelling Germany correctly first. Second, Goseck isn't comparable with Stonehenge. It isn't even a megalithic monument. It has no stones. Yes, Goseck is an interesting and old site, but Germany ain't the centre of the universe! Try looking at Mesopotamia. Far older temples, far more impressive than an earthen ring. You seem to want to make some kind of point bombing every SH link with this material. Do you work there or is this a "mine is bigger than yours" thing?
sonofherne 5 months ago
@ElegantPaws01 well said
Revival1969 7 months ago
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You can't date stone, you can only date the junk that people leave behind, and that could be anybody, these could be 5,000 years old or 12,000 years old, quite simply you don't know, it's just speculation.
Revival1969 7 months ago
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Revival1969 7 months ago
I am curious as to why3 to 6 thousand years ago, in key areas of the Earth vast stone monuments were built. They must have served a purpose. They even exist under water in Japan and in China, South America, Africa....all roughly the same time period. Someone needs to figure out why? There was something common to all these cultures and land masses going on. It wasn't anomalous that this happened. It did serve a purpose. Why...and more to the point, why did this unwritten culture disappear...
ElegantPaws01 1 year ago
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luwullewa 8 months ago
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luwullewa 8 months ago
Why was luwullewa's this comment removed, anti orthodox was it?
Revival1969 7 months ago
@Revival1969 - I don't recall my comment being unorthodox. I'm not even sure what would constitute 'orthodox' when discussing relatively undefinable prehistory.
Oh well, "whatever I said, what ever i did, i didn't mean it"... Oh no, wait that's song lyrics :]
luwullewa 7 months ago
@Revival1969 - I don't recall my comment being unorthodox. I'm not even sure what would constitute 'orthodox' when discussing relatively indefinable prehistory.
Oh well, "whatever I said, what ever I did, I didn't mean it"... Oh no, wait that's song lyrics :]
luwullewa 7 months ago
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@ElegantPaws01 These cultures mostly became enveloped by new religions, but in 5000years time people will not understand the significance of our obscure little crosses, 6x sided stars, Aum’s or other ideologies. Due to the close relationship between deceased and living [instances of dwellings built directly on top of tombs/bones of ancestors] it is likely some of these practices/monuments were in direct homage to their ancestors and living for the success of a coming season/harvest/festival.
luwullewa 8 months ago
what was stonehenge, I suppose we are no nearer finding out as we are about mosses
kopynd 1 year ago
In Bolivia at Puma Punku they had steel and iron mortices locking giant stones together back in 17,000 - 15,000 BC just before the last nuclear anhilation of the great civilisation of old. Something they forgot to add to the school text books. A little like the sphinx alinged with the constellation Leo back in 12,500 BC. The Proccesional wobble sure was a great discovery..
1980cossie 1 year ago
@1980cossie Either their radiocarbon dates are WILDLY out or you got the wrong end of the stick. Maybe you should try going back to school if you believe this, or maybe that's the problem. I wonder what kids actually do learn in these establishments these days.
sonofherne 10 months ago
Britain also is a land of tin. At one time it was the world's leading supplier of tin. If they could make copper tools, they probably could have made stronger alloys as well. This is not beyond the realm of possibilities.
aztecking21122012 1 year ago
We are at this stage of History like babies who are beginning to crawl.... we still have thousands of years yet, to became really full developed!
guruartist 1 year ago
I had a lecture at his class already. The guy knows some good materials. well done
ritchie169 1 year ago
Ha-Ha, maybe stonehenge where a graveyard for the big men like kings and shamans x) or maybe it was a place of sacrafice for their Gods or ancestors x)
lisaprikk 1 year ago
anyone else ever thought maybe Stonehenge started as like say a miniature mountain of rock then they just cut into it ? haha
PNA853 1 year ago
Grüße aus der Oberlausitz!
Goetterhand 2 years ago
he was my lecturer at sheffield univeristy for roman and iron age archaeology! was always in the pub, and we used to go down and get him... sometimes, we'd go back to the pub after the lecture and have a very informal tutorial :P
psychobollox 2 years ago
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We are located in Saxony in the south-eastern of Germany. There we discovered a phenomenon caused by sunlight at several stones. We assume a relation between menhir, dolmen and stone circle. It is also possible to watch a film on youtube: Die steinerne Himmelsscheibe
Goetterhand 2 years ago
I like the way you can hear the ropes creaking! ;)
pddwatch81 2 years ago
read the ancient myths, they let the stones fly,
didn´t need crappy ropes...
truthspeaker969 3 years ago
wow so they lifted 40 tons with hundreds of men and ropes and moved them with rafts? ha ha and they are all surprised that they had metal tools? Big surprise secular history and science doesn't know crap about our real origins. That is why everyone is so lost. that is why "LOST" is the most watched and downloaded television on CBS and nobody even knows why they call CBS COLUMBIA BROADCASTING,
tcoc112233 3 years ago 2
@tcoc112233 No, the ones moved by raft weigh 4-6tons only. These are the bluestones from Wales (150miles) The larger stones you see are a different geology of rock, those are the ones that weigh between 20-50 tons. These came across land from up to 20 miles away. Before you leap to conclusions be sure you have your basic facts right.
sonofherne 10 months ago
@sonofherne I swear im like the only one who is seeing the huge issue with people moving 4-6ton STONES over water...keeping in mind they didnt have giant cruise ships <_<
GoldenSilence16 10 months ago
@GoldenSilence16 Don't be. I was around to see this recreated back in the 90's when they tried to transport a bluestone by raft from Milford Haven. It's possible. Okay, it's not EASY, and the modern attempt failed, but there are several proposed routes they could have taken. Some more easier than others. I have doubts whether the whole trip was infact done by river, only part of the way.
sonofherne 10 months ago
@sonofherne .And remember too, that people were using boats. A large seafaring bronze age ship was found at Dover. After all, Britain, being an Island, had to be reached by water by all but its earliest settlers. The people who arrived in the neolithic would have come by boat,with their possessions and even animals, from the Atlantic coat of Europe.
sonofherne 9 months ago
@sonofherne Try moving a 1000 ton statue in Egypt or a 1000+ ton block in Baalbek then, impossible without breaking it apart, the ancients knew how to easily move massive stone blocks, use them to make complicated structures, and today we can not. Orthodox history is utter bollocks.
Revival1969 7 months ago
@Revival1969 An inability to answer a question as to how something like the stone at Baalbek, an estimated 1,200 tons, simply means that there are things we don't understand, not, that history is bollocks. I am well aware of how smart the ancient prehistoric people were so I don't understand what youre trying to impress on me.I agree.We're discussing Stonehenge at the minute & the average weight of each stone is between 20-48 tons, 5 tons for the bluestones. 10 tons = 100 men needed on average.
sonofherne 7 months ago
@GoldenSilence16 Moving a block of stone that size is not so difficult . I have a Guidebook for stonehenge circa 1960 witha photo of six teenagers using two small boats lashed side by side to transport a full sze concrete replicea of a bluestone up river . they were just poling the craft along . 16 of them could drag it over land using logs as rollers.
barkershill 7 months ago
@sonofherne Your comment is spot on
barkershill 7 months ago