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  • im so proud of that woman to stand up for someones right of free speech. be it good, bad, happy, or hate speech, its still your freedom to say it.

    that being said, fuck this guy. in my opinion, hes a douche bag.

  • id love to just knock this fuckers teeth out

  • I almost forgot how much I hate this guy. Dude I HATE this freakin guy. He does not represent the conservative movement AT ALL.

  • Hahaha I wonder what that woman be saying if that white guy condemned CPAC for allowing a black person in to speak. LMAO.

  • Ryan Sorba is a douche bag. I don't give a shit if your gay or lesbian, it's more conservative to be gay and not care what anybody thinks than to be a Dem and gay and care what everybody thinks.

  • man, i wish they would have zoomed in on the goproud guy who was arguing with cenk about how cpac loves gays :p

  • @circlestream Fuck Cenk. I don't know why leftists find it so hard to believe that we can disagree with the GOP's cultural policies, but still believe they're the lesser of two evils.

  • hmm, he was handed a restraining order for beating up his girlfriend when he was 19 .... classy act indeed

  • Wow! This guy's a douchebag!

  • Ryan Sorba = SUPREME ASSCLOWN

  • So Sorba is from Young Americans for Freedom? Apparently they seem to be quite selective as to who is worthy of such freedom.

  • I would like to beat this confused homo out of his closet. GET AWAY FROM MY CONSERVATISM you weirdo. We dont want you. GO AWAY. The gays are on my team on this one. You are the reason the youth of America doesnt like conservatives. Kick him out, That is my freedom of speech, he may as well be a mole actively destroying the public perception of conservatives, because that is all he is doing here.

  • There is not such thing as a fiscally conservative gay group.

    Conservatives , by their nature , would not organize under a shared sexuality or race or culture.

    Gays YES gay politcal groups NO.

  • @Yababoos123 What the hell are you TALKING ABOUT??? You dont know shit dude. Shut the fuck up. Everyone would be conservative if there werent ignorant intollerant people like you fucking up our constituancy. Conservatism is common sense. You need it. I guess you are the one who isnt a conservative. This is the reason the left got their power and why they will remain in power. It is stupid fucking ignorant fuck balls like you who step in with your bullshit and make us all look bad. FUCKER.

  • @KingDingaLing090 Libertarianism is common sense. Conservatism is prejudice.

  • @LordAgonis Oh wow you are so tuff. Everyone is impressed, just ask yourself.

    How is it prejudice?

  • @KingDingaLing090 When you take the anti-gay and anti-drug out of conservative, I don't see how that's any different than libertarianism. =/

  • He is SO obviously gay. And retarded.

  • This guy is such a shithead. Civil rights are based on a natural basis? Well for one homosexuality is natural, just like reproduction. And for two, if we're going to base all civil rights on a "natural basis", then we should include natural selection, so ban cooked meat and kill any child who's not strong enough or smart enough. Natural doesn't mean humane!

  • Love Ron Paul's face

  • let him believe his bullshit. i dont care. let bygones be bygones. let homosexuals have their rights and let this asshole talk his shit. its all good in the hood. i like what that lady says: freedom of opinion.

  • This is 2010.

    Why is anyone discussing an outrageous collection of stone-aged ramblings?

    As for the man in this video - please don't reproduce.

  • @truechurch0fturthmem @TBlake34 The Bible tells us that it is not our place to judge (Matthew 7:1-5) and that we should walk in love (Ephesians 5:2). The Bible does condemn homosexuality but it also condemns the people who condemn homosexuals.

  • @kailynleto thank you. we're no one to judge or to carry out our creators will. that will be taken care of for us in the next life.

  • That is one confused SOB.

  • Jeff would mop the floor with his ass

  • Well.....HE'S obviously gay, and hates himself for it. The sad part is that none of you will work to destroy him. You'll go back to work tomorrow in favor of your family, as he gets away with forcing himself to procreate with the woman he married to cover his perversion. Shame on all of you. Neither he, his emotionally and/or mentally disturbed wife or kids should be rewarded by ignoring this fact. They should all have their noses rubbed in the horrifying truth about his repressed sexuality.

  • This guy is a perfect example of why these people don't deserve to be in charge of anything.

    I wouldn't let this asshole run a hot dog cart.

  • fuck you U closet case SHit Hole

  • He needs to be royally bitch slapped into the 21st century, and I nominate Ru Paul to do so.

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  • disgusting

  • sweet

  • That doesn't make any sense, Natural rights are theoretical and they say nothing about reproduction.

  • That man is fighting his own confusion.

  • good man

  • these conservatives hate gays apparently. so why does ANYONE listen to them? the only reason that i can come up with is that the listeners h8 gays too, so conservatives, ignore bigots and find better leaders to represent you.

  • Uh, If you didn't notice, CPAC let in a gay canservative group...

    That's one big ass leap into the future, of course there's gonna be at least one dick who spouts off. I'm just stoked that they let them in.

  • they probly let them in to make them look good. if you noticed, some booed in the beginning. they probly dont really care about gay and are using them for their public image.

  • I think the boos were were mostlycoming from the fags towards Sobra.

  • so you dont deny that they are being used huh......

  • Ha ha ha, you must be crazy if think that any political party actually 'supports' or 'represents' their constituency.

    Every party uses anyone they can.

  • who's the dick? i bet he probably thinks that a woman's liberty is non-existant outside the kitchen. and that bonobos are unnatural, well who the fuck is he?! just some other sarah palin off-shoot who thinks he can pick up a topic and climb up the political ladder, I bet this man doesn't even care about the christian right he panders for. and somebody needs to stick pop an' fresh in an oven just so his little peanut head 'll explode...

  • Fuck this guy! I'm not gay but i am for anyone that wants to be gay! its their right! the same right that this buffoon has with free speech. What an ass hole!

  • Another testament to the fact that the conservative movement in the USA has been hijacked by clowns.

  • i bet that knucklehead takes it up the butt behind closed doors. I see his waxed eyebrows.

  • Fuck right wing conservatives. They spew so much hatred. They are the bullies, jocks, frat guy douche bags that nobody really respected.

  • they were the nerds that got beat up

  • Firm bigotry here.

    Ryan Sorba is part of 'California Young Americans for FREEDOM'.

    And yet here he stands, telling others, that they can't be as 'Free' as he is. Sickening...

  • Why get worked up over people being gay? What they do amongst themselves is their business. As long as a gay person isn't hitting on you, or engaging in "inappropriate behavior" in public (which is just as bad if a straight person does it), then I don't see the problem. Too much energy wasted on hatred.

  • Lo...BLB You need to never call Yourself Lord Theres only one and His name is JESUS! And in saying thst, you need to read Rev12verse1's last comment!

  • @truechurch0fturthmem

    LoL! STFU you brainwashed bigot. Go jump off a bridge or something. You ARE looking forward to death afterall, right?. All you religious retards spill the same fearful bullshit. I'm gettin sick and fuckin tired of you 'holier than thou' religious pricks runnin around, dumbing down the rest of the human race.

    When's your God supposed to come back and take you fucktards out of here anyway?

  • L....BLB first I would like to congradulate you on being an IDIOT! Then I would like to say the Lords coming was fortold as a parable and He is HERE and continuously coming within me and SO MANY OTHERS! Have fun while the so called Christians allow you to because the Lord is raising up a church in the earth thats just not gonna take that STUPID EVIL WICKED stuff off of You or any hell! I truly do hope you see the error of your ways and turn away from them! I'd hate for you to choose HELL!

  • @truechurch0fturhmem,

    Yup, just like I thought.

    You're nuttier than aSnickers bar...

    IF your 'God' is real, then tell your Tyrant of a 'Lord', to hurry His ass up and come on down to scoop you retards up, so the rest of us can get to work.

    Your whole 'fire and brimstone' talk, is exactly that... TALK. You have nothing of substance in your words. Only fearmongering. You're a sad excuse for a Human Being.

    If you can't take people disagreeing with you... Stay the fuck off of Youtube, dumbass.

  • I read all of your responses and honestly what the Lord had me to post speaks for itself and puts everything you said to SHAME!!!! lol! YOU'RE WEAK! I thought you would come harder than that it wasnt even enough space for me to say the half of what the scriptures (in which I showed you where they were) meant in deeper meaning and that was your LAME WEAK response???lol! Go debate w/ one of those so called Christians that dont Live the word cause the Lord has obviousely blessed Me to be to much!

  • @truechurch0fturthmem

    Keep talking loonball. You're makin' me laugh!

    You're a double hit too. Both a troll AND a religious nutter. I don't have to say anything about you. You're already so fuckin retarded crazy, that your own words condemn you. LoL! So please... KEEP TALKING.

    You really should talk with a professional about your little 'invisible sky daddy' problem. LoL!

  • @truechurch0fturthmem for someone that can name bible verses you dont seem to understand the part of "loving your neigbors,loving your eneemis ,turning the other check". Do you purposely ignore those values?

  • What do I have to do to get on this guy's enemy list? Seems like it would be a good thing to put on my resume.

  • I can't believe he actually said that.

    That is .... so gay?

    I am confused...... lol

  • this guy is making so sense, he is just ranting

  • This guy likes it up the ass

  • what an idiot, his group should be banned from CPAC.

  • what a neo-nazi, hate-filled stench. i mean how much of a wacked-out loon do you need to be for cpac to boo you?

    ryan sorba is a pustulant, self-loathing, disease terrified of being discovered on the receiving end of a glory hole in a mcdonald's bathroom

  • CPAC and the conservative movement in general is starting to move away from the BS hardline right-wingers. Did you hear the audience shouting "Ron Paul" or was it just me? Listen closely. There's your sign of improvement. The RPers care more about small government, liberty, and the constitution, and less about gay marriage, abortion, and the war. Not to say they don't care, but you know what I'm saying.

  • Why the hell did that bitch start saying "freedom of opinion, freedom of opinion, freedom of opinion"? What, someone tried to steal his opinion away? Freedom of opinion means you're not allowed to express your own opinion against the opinion of others? Stupid.

    Anyway, he's HILARIOUS. :D

  • There is nothing wrong with God, or God's word, but fundamental religion and man's interpretation has some MAJOR flaws. Go back to the CORRECT translations of the original books, and try to comprehend the actual intended message, and you find most of us have been twisting the word to support our own agendas, our own fears and hatreds, and focusing far too much on condemning others rather than simply trying to be better human beings ourselves. I hear a message about love, not hate. IMHO.

    xoxo

  • @garretwolfe As u state the original books, from the beginning man was created 2 live a life of what is good & true. & of his own free will. Just as of his own free will he has the freedom 2 live evil. This is the freedom that God keeps everyone in. Freedom 2 choose evil is slavery not freedom. choosing what is good & true is freedom because it comes from the Lord. Freedom 2 choose evil comes from hell, So in the beginning, God created man&female for 1 another not man&man, woman&woman thats hell

  • That's fine, if it is your interpretation, and your opinion. However, I respectfully disagree with your interpretation based on my studies. Either way, the commandments and teachings of the Bible are meant to be personal, and judgement is to be left up to God. Therefore, I propose that you live by biblical values as you interpret them, and allow others, without judgement, to follow the word the way they believe to be right and true. (continued)

  • We both can agree that Jesus showed us the way, we may just not be smart enough to see it the same. As for your Adam & Eve v.s. Adam & Steve style argument, I'd rather not rehash all that again. We have all heard those arguments, AND the standard responses, a million times and it just goes in circles. I'll stick to scripture to form my opinion of the Bible. (continued)

  • With the help of some very learned Biblical Scholars, and without the prejudice of any particular church agenda, I am finding a far deeper, more loving message in the Bible, and the teachings of Jesus, than I had previously understood. Many wonderful surprises. May your spiritual journey be as joyful.

    xoxo

  • First I hear about a cross burning in East Coast Canada, then this? North America = massive fail.

  • man's soul is man and man's soul must live by justice judgement. That is not judging him that is blessing him.

  • @Rev12verse1 I totaly agree with you! God bless!

  • "Freedom of opinion, freedom of opinion"

    The camera fades to black because they didn't want you to see what she did when someone yelled "nigger".

    What are the odds that guy belongs to some religious organization that promotes love and tolerance?

  • wow...what a asshole....."quess what"?...your a douchbag...listen to these idiots...this dude is talkin' some shit....wonder if they all took their panties off..... and continued this debate out in the parking lot?....(lol)...losers........­.....

  • American Medical and Psychiatric Association web sites;

    Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?

    No, human beings cannot choose to be either gay or straight. For most people, sexual orientation emerges in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Medical doctors, psychiatrists, and psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.

  • what about a man "sodomizing" a woman? what are you talking about sodom and gomorha???? what does homosexuality or heterosexuality have to do with murdering children? you are prejudiced and brain washed...normal people can't reason with you. Thank God straights like me will fight for my gay brothers and sisters and fight racism and prejudice. Your kind will die off and the young people will inherit a better world.

  • homosexuality is absolutely norma, variance of human sexuality...every scientists and doctor and psychologist knows that.

  • 2 Men Sodomizing each other is normal?

    Yes some human sexuality is peverted, immoral and can lead to violence agaisnt Children and women. Serial Killer Ted Bundy murdered and raped many women due to his pornography addiction that screwed his mind to hell!

  • I came home to my dorm one night, and witnessed my MALE roommate having sloppy wet and drippy anal sex with Ryan Sorbet. It was disgusting!

  • Again...I point you to the American Medical, Psychological and Psychiatric Associations:

    The American Psychological Association (APA) has adopted an updated resolution saying there is no evidence to support the notion that sexual orientation can be changed, and that gay conversion therapy can cause depression and suicide attempts

  • TONY HORTON-I wasn't born gay and neither were you. It was a path I chose, a sexually perverted choice on my behalf. If I was born that way, others, such as child molesters, drunkards, adulterers, thieves, could claim the same thing. NO LONGER GAY\Out of Pain, God Restores (Ethan Martin) to MANY names FOR ME TO POST ON youtube!

  • medicine and science and psychiatry and psycology disagree with your statements. Sexual orientation is NOT a choice. If you disagree with science and the APA and AMA that's YOUR problem

  • Clueless and indoctrinated and brain washed..Your a classic exapmple why this world is going to hell in a hand basket..

    Seek truth and stop believing lies.....

    The next generation has no hope without GOD.....This world just keeps going deeper in debt and corruption and immorality day by day

    Hope you see the light one day

  • @Raineygoodyears Damn right. Bring back slavery of lesser races and of the mind. Let's do away with science and reason and revert back to where God had us in the Dark Ages. America...fuck yeah.

  • Yes, we trusted the conservative, God-fearing Bush and his party to run our country...and they gave us the worst economy in 100 years...they took the liberal Clinton's surplus and squandered it...they spend $2 Trillioni to invade an innocent country, and now you have the balls to talk about 'GOD"? God created gay people, and black people, and brown haired people. The world is going to hell because of old haters like you.

  • GOD does not create gay or straight people, he creates people! and they come in all colors period! Our behaviours in society is FREE WILL and CHOICES. You are not born to steal! or kill! r have sex with our own sex! or an animal! or your parents! those are all CHOICES! The WAR did not get us into debt! GREED DID!

  • You are also not born to kiss another human being, own a pet, own land, play an X Box, or go to school, eat chocolate cake, or celebrate Christmas or Thanksgiving.

    The difference is you believe it is right to impose what you want upon other people and that is not FREEDOM, it is TYRANNY.

    If you believe in GOD then you should know that it is GOD's job to judge. not you with your own imperfections.

    War killed hundreds of thousands of innocents, how dare you justify that in any way.

  • GOD does not want us to JUDGE the condition of a MAN's heart or SOUL.

    But he wants us to Condemn SIN otherwise we would live in a state of continous chaos.

  • Sorry... You cannot "condemn" without first "judging" which is what you people do.

    You and everyone you know commits what you think is "a sin".

    BUT you don't exactly make YOUR SINS or your family's sins illegal do you?

    No, In the end it's easier for you to JUDGE and CONDEMN people that do something you don't understand than to look at your own sins.

    Completely hypocritical.

    Same justification religous fanatics all over the world use to kill those they feel are "sinful"

  • Rainey...then go out there and organize state-by-state constitutional amendments, rather than attacking defenseless gay Americans. You claim you care about the American family, but you're out there fighting AGAINST people who actually WANT to get married. It's illogical, incomprehensible, and based on fear, prejudice and hatred - gay marriage NOW gay marriage FOREVER! freedom to the people! Govt OFF our backs!

  • You are clueless..Gays can Marry just like everyone else, I guess you didn't know that. People have to MEET the criteria for Marriage, you have to be of certain age, you have to marry someone of sound mind you cannot marry a member of your family, multiple people and animal or a member of your own sex. If you want to marry multiple people or your brother or your own sex move to Europe

  • and what are the criteria for divorce? as far as marrying "mulitple" people? what does heterosexual or homosexual marraige have to do with that? The only polygamists we here about are the extremist christian groups

  • Rainey...I don't think the world is at risk of falling population (already approaching 7 Billion) from a few gay people! Homosexuality is not common, but absolutely normal. Kind of like people with Green eyes...not common, but normal. If you have problems with homosexuality, you should take it up with the AMA and the APAs. why do you hate science? If you have cancer, you will listen to AMA board certified doctors...but you don't believe them on homosexuality. prejudiced and brain washed

  • he AMA is wrong otherwise Homosexuals who have left the lifestyle and now lead heterosexual lives would be impossible and many have left! if you care to research. Green Eyes is part of your body. CHOOSING to engage in peverted sex acts with your own sex is a CHOICE. Yes the population in Europe especially Italy is dwindling. People die in the millions every day

  • Anything else the AMA and the APA are wrong on? I mean...if the AMA and the APA are providing incorrect research and science...we should all be concerned about their other science on other health issues! According the AMA and APA sites, over 83 studies have been done on homosexuality with thousands of people and "conversion" therapies were examined in detailed...and the AMA and APA found that its IMPOSSIBLE to "choose" your sexual orientation. So your comments are based on ignorance.

  • heterosexual commitment and fidelity!!! LOLOLOL...heterosexuals have done so much damage to marriage and the family, they're HARDLY good role models! 70% adultery! 50% divorce! 35% of children born OUT of wedlock! 18% teen pregnancy! 20% abortion rate! Uhh...I don't think heteros should lecure gay people (and I'm straight)

  • It seems to me...it would be a much more efficient use of your time to fight divorce, and prevent 40 million American children living in single-parent households, than to worry about gay people who actually WANT to get married.  I'm confused

  • Rainey...do you support a Federal Constitutional Ammendment Prohibiting Divorce between one man and one woman? or are you only concerned about gay people not being able to marry?

  • I think divorce should be hard to get unless there is abuse and violence. Just because someone says..I am bored with you, or we don't have enough money and I am not happy should not be able to divorce for those reasons, then people might think twice before they jump into Marriage... for wrong reasons

  • Raineygood...are you not concerned about the 40 Million children in America who only have one parent because of heterosexuals' 50% divorce rate?

  • It is impossible to change one's sexual orientation...never been done. You can't find an AMA or APA board certified doctor or psychologist or psychiatrist that will attempt "conversion" therapies. People are born gay...and homosexuality is just a variance of human sexuality. Absolutely normal

  • Have you read the stories on the EXODUS

    site? you will be enlightened..Nothing NORMAL about homosexual relations. A world would not survive without consummation, something gays cannot do with one another, nothing normal about 1 sex trying to act like can be all what a child can know when he has 2 Unique sexes influences on him or her

    THere is a reason 2 Sexes exist..Normal would be if only 1 Sex existed on the planet

  • The American Psychological Association (APA) has adopted an updated resolution saying there is no evidence to support the notion that sexual orientation can be changed, and that gay conversion therapy can cause depression and suicide attempts

  • Raineygood...AGAIN...I point you to science and fact and the AMA and APA sites....

    Can Lesbians, Gay Men, and Bisexuals Be Good Parents?

    Yes. Studies comparing groups of children raised by homosexual and by heterosexual parents find no developmental differences between the two groups of children in four critical areas: their intelligence, psychological adjustment, social adjustment, and popularity with friends.

  • There studies are faulty this has been proven. This ngay issue is now Political and that is why you see this study as something proven. Of course a Gay person can be a wonderful parent, that is not the point, we don't experiment with children. We try and do the best for our children by giving them a Mother and Father the BEST situation for any child to grow up in

  • Raineygoodyears....are you also concerned about the 50% divorce rate among heterosexuals that results in 30-40million children living without a mother or a father? Or is your concern ONLY with the few thousand kids of gay parents

  • The Divorce rate is a HUGE problem, we need to encourage Traditional Marriage. Men to take there vows seriously, Commitment, Fidelity responsibility to children. Men and Women to marry for love not lust and to honor there wedding vows to themselves and GOD

  • conservatives are full of hate...they don't look at their own lives (divorce, abortion, etc) and are so concerned about controlling other peoples' lives. sick muthas

  • Well, I guess impotent guys and infertile gals are just fucked under that discription. At least gays and lesbian can have their own kids with the help of surrogates.

  • Infertile Couples can adopt and give a Child a Mother and a Father.. Gay couples are purposely denying a baby a Mother or a Father if they hire a surrogate or adopt.

  • conservatives are just full of hate hate hate

  • and in my case, they're filled with goat sperm. I'm a conservative goat fucker.

  • This...is...amazing.

  • awesome!

  • Next guy shouted:

    "I hate niggers!"

    Then the old lady came and said:

    "Freedom of opinion"

    And that made it better!

  • What a complete train-wreck of a party.

  • This is so wrong pooey on the Dems.

  • This loutish behavior is a step away from intimidation and outright thuggery.

    Typical fascist.

  • That speaker actually seemed like a closet homosexual. I wouldn't be surprised.

  • This is what you don't get. Homosexuality is not a behavior. Homosexual SEX is a behavior, but homosexuality is not. Homosexual attractions are not choices. Homosexual acts ARE choices.

    I know gay men who have gotten married to women, procreated with them and raised children, but they were not attracted to the women they married, which is why those marriages eventually failed. They were gay even though they were in straight relationships.

  • This is what you don'tunderstand..LOVE stands the test of time ATTRACTION is temporary..COMMITMENT is godly and shows character.....You don't leave your spouse because you feel you are no longer attracted, this is why Adultery is so prevalent in out time, you stay because of LOVE and COMMITMENT....People are flawed..GOD knows sometimes my husband is nothing but a pain in the Kazoo to me, but I love him not out of attraction but out of character on who he is and my commitment to him and GOD.

  • Love is a truly wonderful thing, and I will not deny love to myself simply because others don't understand that love is not about what's between your legs.

    If there really is a god, then he has surely and firmly informed me that I should be with the one I love, though a male he might be.

    If I were to sever my bond with him, I might as well kill myself, as it doesn't feel right to live without him.

    Even if I were to never physically contact him, he would still be my one and only true love.

  • I don't doubt you are a wonderful person, and I am no less a sinner than you are, however GOD has given us all a set of standards to live by, and no human being can love like GOD loves all of us (Agape)

    I love my husband with all my heat but I love GOD more *con't*

  • God made people gay. From the American medical Association and American Psychiatric Associaiton web sites. READ and LEARN:

    Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?

    No, human beings cannot choose to be either gay or straight. For most people, sexual orientation emerges in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Doctors and Psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.

  • Well, I'm a conservative and I choose to fuck goats. nasty, hot, sexy little goats. I give it and I take it, because I'm a conservative republican!

  • No researcher has found provable biological or genitic differences between heterosexuals and homosexuals that weren't caused by their behavior

    Occasionally you may read about a scientific study that suggests that homosexuality is an inherited tendency, but such studies have usually been discounted after careful scrutiny or attempts at replication.

  • No one has found a single heredible genetic, hormonal or physical difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals - at least none that is replicable. While the absence of such a discovery doesn't prove at inherited sexual tendencies aren't possible, it suggests that none has been found because none exists

  • so you dispute the AMA and the APA? Exactly what can a person do to prevent being gay - if its environmental that is

  • Two large studies asked homosexual respondents to explain the origins of their desires and behaviors - how they "got that way." The first of these studies was conducted by Kinsey in the 1940s and involved 1700 homosexuals. The second, in 1970 involved 979 homosexuals. Both were conducted prior to the period when the "gay rights" movement started to politicize the issue of homosexual origins.

  • @Raineygoodyears

    for the sake of clarity you should say that the kinsey experiment involved prisoners. isn't that, correct? i may be misremembering but i think i am right.

    mind you, i have no axe to grind one way or another.

  • and that provokes me to want to serve him more than my husband or family it also wants me to try and do his will and when I fail I know he forgives me and I try again. If you don't love GOD first then it will be hard to obey his commandments.

  • And no homosexuality in itself is not sinful, it is when one acts upon it that it is... That is why Jesus says stay away from things that you will know make you stumble, like watching Porn or going to strip bars, or obsessing on homosexual acts.. The flesh is weak but the Power is in the Holy Spirit of GOD.. Alcoholics can have a great life if they stay clear of booze, so can homosexuals if they stop obsessing on homosexual acts.

  • It is a sin,I'm a Republican.

  • Oh hey Miss Moxie... I just came back from church made lunch for me and the hubby and turned on my computer....

    Did you watch Glenn Beck? he was awesome, I am in Independent but lean twoards Republicians that are Conservatives.

  • I so deeply appreciate your sincere words and caring for others. I hope that one day you might be able to see the joy in a loving, faithful gay couple.

    Indeed, many of us already do have great lives full of the life-long, unconditional love and companionship that only the purest of bonds can provide.

  • But you know my friend, I also know friends who are loving to one another and our friends for life.. We are called to love one another like GOD has loved us..But a Bond between a Husband and Wife is Unique above all, it is the only Union that can connsumate a bond making 2 *1* and bring fourth a life... GOD Bless you in your search for truth....

  • Your belief that any relationship unlike your own is inferior to yours is egotistical.

    Jesus never said anything about homosexuality.

    It's a shame that you can't recognize the wonderful beauty that exists in the relationships of those who are not like you.

  • I believe in the beauty of all loving relationships,But the only one that involves Marraige is that of 1 Man and 1 Woman who through there love in consummation can bring fourth life and keep the world going. NO other relationship can accomplish that together

  • I can love my partner even if we are not married.

    Our inability to procreate together is irrelevant. Many straight, married couples are unable to procreate together but that does not diminish their love.

  • Nothing is wrong with loving our fellow human beings....But LOVE in Marraige is between 1 MAN and 1 Woman who can connsumate there love in the act of sexual intercourse (Making them *1*) and that is why you, and I an everyone posting here and the world is here....

  • I'm not against you nor anyone else procreating.

    Again, our inability to procreate together is irrelevant. Whether or not we have sex is also irrelevant. We love each other, and that's what matters.

    If there is a god, he apparently wants me to be with a man. It is arrogance against your god for you to think you know better than him, or to think you know what's in my heart or my partner's heart.

  • Do you love your partner more than GOD your heavenly father?

  • I don't think GOD wants me to be with my husband..I made that Choice on my own..GOD wants me to honor my commitment of Love and Fidelity since I did make that choice.

    He wants to Bless my marriage by the standards he gave me on Marraige.

  • Well, god said something different to me.

  • 1 Man and 1 Woman based on what?

    You realize that throughout history polygamy was normal? Even in the bible men regularly took multiple wives.

    So is it ok for your husband to have multiple wives?

    No, because society changed that.

    Government is based on the laws of our society not based on an outdated book.

    People don't follow the bible they simply cherry pick those passages that support their own predjudices.

    Even the bible was written to support the beliefs of the TIME.

  • THe BIble never condoned Polygamy..

    Did the Commandment change Thou shall not commit adultery? Dd the JEWS practice polygamy? NO..They followed the LAW of GOD..Man can change all he wants but GOD is unchanging, he is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow

  • YOU ARE WRONG.

    Like all religious tyrants, you want to cherry pick from the Bible only those ideas that support your convictions.

    However it is completely clear that GOD CONDONED POLYGAMY.

    You VERY WELL know that David, Samuel, Jacob, Abraham, ALL had multiple wives and concubines.

    Polygamy is not the same as Adultery.

    Again there are MANY THINGS in the bible that would not be thought of as good or fair today.

    Like all text it reflected what was acceptible at the time.

  • the word of God is not outdated. Man's love of evil that tries to change and justify the bible to please his evils and that is exactly what you are doing,

  • No I do not.

    People all over the world and throughout history use religion as a shield and weapon for their own ignorance and prejudice.

    "He who is without sin cast the first stone"

    Was once used to protect others from these people.

    These texts that were once used to enlighten and free people, are instead used to kill, inslave, and start wars.

    As if the world is your child to punish.

    "God" did not give people free will for you or anyone else to dictate what they do with it.

  • You show me ONE SCRIPTURE where GOD condones Polygamy, Homosexuality,

    Beastiality, or Adultery. The Bible is a history of a PEOPLE not PERFECT but SINNERS! It is a Book of GOD reaching out to Sinners through, Redemption through Justice and ending with eternal salvation.

    Wise Up!

  • We were talking about "polygamy" which is not "adultery". Many of Gods chosen were polygamists.

    First Exodus 21 Begins by condoning SLAVORY.

    Verse 10 talks about multiple wives.

    Deuteronomy 21 verse 15-17

    Mathew 22 verse 23-32

    Like I said it is hypocrital for you to allow you and your familiy to "sin" when it comes to eating shelfish, "coveting", etc.

    Then make it illegal for others to make their own choices.

    You hide behind the Bible to push your own prejudices.

  • DEUT 21 15:17

    This case has no bearing upon polygamy, which there is no evidence that the Mosaic code legalized.

    Matthew? That eludes to the resurrection and if a Man re-marries after his wife has deceased.

    So you are IN-CORRECT.

    Jesus ate fish, th Shellfish in the OT was COMMON SENSE! because they had no way to preserve...I don't Hide behind the Bible, I try and OBEY it, and not make excuses for my bad behaviour!

  • Wrong

    Mathew was about taking the wife of one's brother REGARDLESS of whether he was aready married.

    You have NO argument against the fact that polygamy was practiced throughout the bible with NO condemnation.

    But you make a RATIONAL for shellfish don't you? Hypicritical.

    Everything in the bible was written for it's TIME. Which is why things like SLAVORY were also condoned.

    By pushing your flawed interpretations of an outdated book on others you commit TYRANNY plain and simple.

  • Get real for a change.

    I guess the Ten Commandments are outdated, we should commit adultery and steal and lie and murder....Slavery was not condoned it was accepted because otherwise those people would be starving on the street! They had no Welfare Plan. GOD spoke how to treat your slave. Slaves you know of are about race, not the case in the Bible.Still don't know what your gripe is about the Matthew Scripture...

  • Oh look? Once again RATIONALIZING everything in the Bible to suit *logic* and YOUR world view.

    Which is EXACTLY my point. We live in a society based on LAWS based on fairness not Biblical law.

    We don't make laws designed to terrorize or discriminate against one group that we happen to disagree with.

    Funny how once the christians were pursecuited and now they spend their time pursecuiting others.

    Because in the end it has NOTHING to do with religion, just petty human nature.

  • What are you complaining about any'ways, Gays are granted civil unions which enable them to have legal rights like heteroexual couples. You don't even know what persecution is. Try Christians in Muslim and African Countries who are being beheaded, slaughtered thrown in prison and churches being burnt down for worshipping Jesus Christ.

  • I care about. Life Liberty, & The Pursuit of happyness.

    Saying that Gays have the same rights as Straight couples is like saying blacks could ride the same bus or eat at the same restaurants even though they had to SIT IN THE BACK.

    You seem to have NO first hand knowledge of discimination or the pain that people go through for the things YOU take for granted.

    You've lived your life, had your happiness, now you wish to deny that to others.

    *THIS* country is NOT about discrimination.

  • Oh I see Gay People are a Class of there own? What Country are they from? what color are they? what is there Culture or Origin? You are an insult to Black People in this country who were whipped beaten and Killed used as Slaves and Concubines, denied an education, employment and housing only because the color of there skin. A Homosexual could never act on it and no one would not squat about his orientation. GET REAL

  • Yes they are a classification, a subculture. What's your point?

    It doesn't matter if they are group of people wearing blue hats.

    DISCRIMINATION is DISCRIMINATION.

    It's petty and ignorant no matter who it's directed at.

    Jeez I'm talking about the problems TODAY not when blacks were slaves.

    More hate crimes are committed against Gays than any other group (other than Jews).

    So yes *TODAY* Gays are beaten and killed. You are CLEARLY uninformed on what goes on in the world.

  • Persecuted. Gays are not Persecuted. They have every right that hetrosexuals do. Marriage is defined as an act of unity between a man and a woman. Not a man and a man or a woman and a woman. If you want to love a member of the same sex, then love them. I do not care at all. But you cannot redifine the definition of marriage.  Do not say gays are persecuted. Jews were murdered by the millions by Hitler, that is persecution. Being brutally killed. Do not say gays are persecuted.

  • Gays are killed for being Gay in this country and many countries around the world...

    "redifining" is just another code word for bigotry.

    Marriage is a reflection of it's culture. Polygamy was and still is practiced, Arranged marriage was and still is practiced, Marriage for power and politcal gain was and still is practiced.

    Same sex marriage does not effect YOU.

    Yet you would deny happiness to others simply because YOU are uncomfortable with it.

    That is called TYRANNY.

  • BS- GAYS are not being Killed Children and Pregnant Women have more risk of being killed than anyone else....Polygamyis not allowed in the USA neither are marriages based on lies (As to obtain green cards) Homosexuals can be happy all they want, but when they make it Political then it's my business as an American Citizen.

  • Stop being so indoctrinated with the Political Correctness of homosexuality.

    Gay people can marry just like you or I, they cannot re-define it. They cannot re-define Marriage to mean, Same Sex, Polygamy or any other degenerate lifestyle that corrupts the Moral Fiber of a Moral Society.

  • It's about right vs wrong

    You are Wrong

    You seek to condemn people who only wish to love each other and deny them the rights you take for granted.

    The SAME sick arguments were used to ban interacial couples/marriages.

    You use the bible to shield your own bogotry rather than a tool to enlighten YOURSELF.

    Marriage has ALWAYS been defined by it's culture. Whether it's polygamy (STILL practiced), arranged marriages, political marriages, or marriages for convenience, money, and power.