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  • This is a historical lie that the friars in the sixteenth century created to give an explanation to the incarnate deity and an apostle who came to evangelize. He assembled the figure of a character image of a nonexistent...

  • Even in the seventeenth century, Carlos de Siguenza y Gongora notes that Quetzalcoatl was St. Thomas. What we attempted in the sixteenth century was to have a figure based on the Bible and confirmed his Christian vision. "This shows how a historical falsehood, over time it becomes a truth"

    And finally, the thinker of the nineteenth century, Manuel Orozco y Berra says that Quetzalcoatl, also of St. Thomas, was Viking. LOL

  • Yeah but, Jesus wasn´t white anyways!!! So... It makes no sense at all. Jesus was a dark brown man from the deserts of Africa, well... So the fairy tale says.

  • @sstan1337 what if jesus was white after all king david was red hair ect who knows

  • I don't know if you will see this, but you need more research for your video. And when I say more research I tell you to research the Quetzalcoatl myth AND the mormons too.

    That is all I have to say, I don't have to post my opinions about these subjects here

  • the disgusting racist mormons

  • IM SICK OF THIS BULLSHIT TALK OF END OF THE WORLD AND FEATHERED SERPENT!!!!!  QUETZALCOATL ISN'T A GOD!! LET ALONE A HUMAN FORM..

    IT IS IN THE MIND! QUETZALCOATL MEANS PRECIOUS TWIN OR PRECIOUS KNOWLEDGE...... THESE WACK ASS PEOPLE THAT TRY TO DISTORT OUR CULTURE ARE LOST THEMSELVES.....

  • Quetz... was a fallen angel who came to decieve. Now referred to as Reptilians. I wonder if they taste like chicken. Fuckers.

  • what the fuck!!!!>>>>>?????!!!!!!

    Ketzalkoatl was not a human form. It was a state of mind, or cosmic understanding. It was a label given to those who reached a high level of acknowledgment of the earth and cosmos. The most popular to receive this name was Ce Akatl Topiltzin Ketzalkoatl. But never was ketzalkoatl a god, nor was there prophecies of a human form leaving witht he promise to return. When our ancestors spoke of a return, it was the return of consciousness .....

  • @MEXIKAYOTL2012

    Hm...interesting. I was wondering if you could elaborate on what you mean. I think you are more right than the ones that says 2012 is end of the world. If you want to know why, I'm doing a research project on what 12.21.2012 means?

    So "The Return Of Consciouness" ....is....Ce Akatl Topiltzin Ketzalkoatl..just a meditation method?An ideal?Also, what culture labeled this as the return of consciousness...from the Hindu culture, right? Also, I apologize if I'm too nosy.

  • @NukThea , No, Ce Akatl Topiltzin was an actual person that was granted the position of Ketzalkoatl because of his understanding of the earth...., ketzalkoatl is a position held.... , it is deeper that a meditation method. It is an understanding of the earth and cosmos...connecting the universe and the earth. The culture that really labeled it a return of consciousness was the Toltec and Maya from Mexico.....But they never really said it was exactly on 12-21-2012.......

  • @NukThea , You have to undestand that the so called end of the world 2012, is really an event simply re-occurring .....this has happened thousands of times before....there is no end of a calendar, it is simply an end of a cycle...and another one starts. Ketzalkoatl literally means Precious Knowledge......so the return of the precious consciousness .....never a human form. That was made up by Religious fanatics and new age media to connect the theory of jesus coming to judge us....

  • cool beans

  • It seems that people who believe this ridiculous BS forget to do their research before presenting it as such. It was popular back in the day to depict Jesus as a White man (blond & blue eyes) when in fact, we dont even know if Jesus really looked like that. So people in those days thought that White = blond/blue eyes and think that Quetzalcoatl was "White" .

  • What about when moses lifted a brazen serpant upon a pole for all people to look at and be saved, did he say worship the devil? Obviously it was a representation the savior of the world but many would not look because of the easiness of it and they perrished. I cannot prove my religion to you but only god can! Ask Him!!! Also you say 200 years before the savior was born qutezaqutal was worshiped? You are saying prophets don't prophesy in advance just after? That is not prophesing!!!

  • white people get over it you have no truth or good history.

  • Shut the fuck up, no your not

  • ofcourse he isnt...

    because i am.. ^^

  • hahahahaha what a bunch of crap...sorry dood i really dont like your work..

  • the music . what cartoon is that from?

  • i see whatYOU are saying. But don't forget, that with the coming of the spainards came their Religions. and their false GOD JESUS and it devoured the Religion of the serpent. Does not mean that jesus is The TRUE GOD but they were decieved for a short time,enough time to be overtaken. some are reconizing that JESUS is not god or even his true Messiah. the mormans are a decieved lot as well.

  • Religion of the Serpent? What are you talking about? My people didn't worship a serpent. They worshipped an Invisible God who created all things, who was divine (quetzalli) and later became man (coatl). Jesus is most definetly God. And, not, I am not Mormon. I am Mexican.

  • That is why,like many other indigenous peoples, were conquered and absorbed by the catholic religion because the Catholics allowed the peoples of other countries to KEEP their own traditions,they just rename their Gods. In every country where the catholic Religions Reign Also have Different traditions.THAT IS WRONG BECAUSE YHVH never CHANGES.YOUR people were killed and TORTURED and even forced to speak another language.i pray you look for truth.

  • Who says I haven't found the truth? you?

  • John 3:14 "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up"

    The ancient Mexica have a prophecy about the coming of Quetzalcoatl.

    Quetzalcoatl is the incarnate Christ, his name comes from the Nahuatl language, it is a literal but also metaphorical name of a Divine/Human being.

    Quetzalcoatl can also be translated as, "Precious Son", "Beautiful One of our likeness", "Precious flesh of our flesh".

  • If you look up an image of the "Staff of Moses" you'll see the Serpent on The Cross... It's merely a caduceus a shamanic symbol representing the enlightening medicine, which is our symbol for medicine today. Jesus is the medicine itself just like the Native American Church refers to their sacred peyote as their medicine. All of these ancient religions evolved from shamanism. It's frightening how easily misled everyone is about these myths.

  • hahaha this video is a joke.....it is funny when white people try and act like they know about our culture. Sorry but you get 1 star.

  • Yeah sorry dude. I fully admit I didn't research thoroughly enough before making this vid. My sincerest apologies.

  • You are right about one thing though, Jesus and Quetzacoatl are not the simply because JESUS is DARK (for god's sakes, he's from the middle east). But the Natives did think Cortez was Quetzalcoatl, a lot of heir gods had a human from (which is usually a guy wearing a mask)

  • @Monasukapanough isnt Quetzalcoatl a snake???

  • This your testimony...I see that you mind is not in the right with God...Instead you bring up what you see in your head. Maybe you should repent and then you will see the real messiah..He is not black, white, yellow, red. But outshines all the colors to create light in them...Once you receive the light you will see, that Christ does not belong to a race but within person who humbles himself. People can be deceived by false colors of what they represent Christ without the light.

  • my mind cannot be in the right with something that doesn't exist but thank you for your comments.

  • @Twackius All things/thoughts which are created, do exist. This includes your story & beliefs, mine, and all others. How can they exist simultaneously? With tolerance. Any other alternative by any party is too much ego. This is a life-lesson above all others.

    In the end, all things which can be done, are quite useless.

  • i agree videos like this are very dishonoring to my people i am native american, all the time i hear how the white men know more about our culture than we do. i would ask you to please speak to the people and to the creator before doing stuff like this.

  • @65brandy Yeshua Messiah is black.. he is skin of bronze with wooly hair.. I will have you know he isn't as all forgiving as you will like him to be. lol especially if your white, with a indifference about the racism that went on in America, and try to live life as if you don't benefit from it. LOL Yeshuaha is returning for the Israelites, if you like it or not... Oh by the way.. who the fuck is Christ?? there is no such thing in my Hebrew scripture... OOOH (cont)

  • @65brandy You must be talking about the KJV? that Bible written by a Masonic homosexual?? You can keep that book re-written by the devils.. written by Esau..

  • @65brandy clarification christ = divine wisdom, jesus = divine love... the cross is to centralize... nails is to bind... blood is humans... wood is nature (Balance through evolution)... a crown is a symbol of a leader... thorn the symbol of passive defense... centralize on divine wisdom and divine love (understanding and will), to bind humans to work toward Goodness through the leadership of passive resistence... A believe rooted in the spiritual as accounts of past events it may be

  • Jesus, the Great Feathered Chicken

  • Thank you..It is a fact that Spanish priests, in their effort to convert the Native Mexicans, went out of their way to make connections between catholicism and indigenous spirituality. Camille Townsend wrote an excellent paper called "Burying the white Gods" where she destroys the myth altogether. You can do a google search for it. Her paper merely affirms what those of us in the Mexicayotl tradition have been saying all along. She also exposes the origin of the Hernan Cortez/God myth.

  • Traidor

  • Oye, porque me llamas traidor? Entndiste el video y mi comentario?

  • Disculpa, lo lee mal

  • no hay problema..cheka mis videos si te interesa. Ometeotl!

  • Interesting persepctive. I like your use of the theme song from the cartoon "Mysteries of the Gold City" which is now available on DVD if I am not mistaken.

  • yes, the christ is the serpent. Jesus was the messenger. We are all children of god and we are all serpents. why? because it is the way of the soul. This is why purification is so important, the path is narrow. Don't condemn your souls to hell, the earth is about to be consumed by "responsibility" and there will be no more freedom. The serpent if sacred knowledge and has been demonized by the churchs who are ruled by none other than, the dynasties who ruled Egypt babylon and sumeria.

  • Nope, not buying it.

  • it's not to buy, because it's not for sale.

    I'm under the impression that you're a christian?

    Did you listen to his message, or do you worship him as a god?

  • No, i'm an atheist. There are no gods and there is no grand conspiracy.

  • god lives in you. you came from the universal consciousness that lives in all in-animate and animate things. the only truth that truly is, is buried deep inside of you underneath all the B.S. people fill your head with and your ego. the truth is, your soul is eternal. will you go up, or will you go down in your next transformation? we're not done evolving yet, we are like caterpillars yet to go through metamorphoses. the ancients knew, the serpent symbolism is all over the world.

  • Oh wow, you're full of the old B.S. aren't ya? Go back o your dark corner of the world and dwell in your conspiracies and your religion. Clearly you need these things in order to give your pathetic waste of the only life you've got meaning.

  • Take your own advice, fool.

  • Please, keep in mind that Mexican writing was primarily a combination of Semasiograms and glottograms; the depiction of Quetzalcoatl does not depict a reality as you see it, but it depicts a form of writing. Quetzalcoatl in the Nahuatl conception translated as "Sacred Twin", with the "twin" part being untranslatable in meaning to the English language. Here, the word twin assumes a level of brotherhood, as if to say, "we are from the same Father and Mother".

    We still await Quetzalcoatl's advent.

  • great video. I loved it.

  • EXECELENT.

  • And by "our" eyes, I mean, through the eyes of the mexica, the maya, the pipil, the hopi, the apache... etc because all of the indigneous cultures of the americas are connected one way or another.

    Stop viewing our culture through the lens of the conquerers, they tend to distort history for their own benefit.

  • Metadeth7: by opening your mouth you pretty much showed what you know about my culture... which is nothing.

    "aztec gods"... pfff! the word "gods" is a very eurocentric term. You view my culture through the eyes of the conquistadores, christians, and so called historians... what you need to do is view my culture through our eyes.

  • lucifer- knowledge bearing serpent winged also as he was a seraphim.

    Quetzalcoatl- knowledge bearing winged serpent....both evil, same entity its just the devil under a next name that deceived many.

  • Uh-huh sure. The fact that both are fictional means nothing to you?

  • i'm sure many socieities that never had any contact with each other were bored enough to sit and make up stories that are all basically the same just with some with different views on who was good and who was bad by chance. the entities also looked basically the same and did the same things. the aztecs probably called the jews and other ppls miles away and they came up with the stuff. think outside the box. there is more beyond the physical world

  • The aztecs called the jews? On their Magic Aztec Quetz-a-phone. And no, there is nothing supernatural. It's all myths and fairy tales.

  • i was bein sarcastic on the calling part.... ofcourse they never called phones didnt exist. i said that to show it was impossible for them to meet to make up the same story therefore showing that some entity visited ppl in different parts of the world. lol i cant believe u though i was suggestin they really called each other hahaha. open ur mind!

  • They didn't make the same story. The Aztec religion and the middle eastern religions are completely different. Christianity only beame mixed in when the europeans began to invade.

  • as i said before same story diff perspective. read about the nephilim and fallen angels. they became the fasle gods that other ppl spoke of and worshipped instead of YHWH God. they are also know as annunaki, the aztec gods, hindu gods, greek/roman gods, demons/jinn in christianity judiasm and islam. a serpent was always the 'enlightener' in those stories open ur eyes do research and u will see the connection.

  • It's very easy to make connections between coincidences. It's the way our brains are wired. We evolved to notice patterns. It helped us survive in the wild. Unfortunately in our present environment it allows us to see patterns which aren't there. And why can't you type Yahweh? Will some kind of divine retribution come your way if you do?

  • soon enough u'll realise our reality is only one plane or frequency of existance and there are other forms of life that exist that we don't understand or can't see. what we know is just a handful of sand out of the earth. mainstream media has defined reality for people and you follow like sheep with the rest of the world into ur confined box.

  • nothing is wrong with typin Yahweh Shangdi Allah or ne of His names in diff languages i just find the aramic YHWH looks cooler. seems u like to point out the irrelevant to seem smart but it really shows ur really runnig dry.

  • And yes, I can believe that you believe the aztecs had phones. You seem to be able to believe any other made up horse shit.

  • is that the best you can do to justify ur gross misunderstanding and inability to comprehend ppl?

  • Perhaps or maybe I'm trying to justify your gross misunderstanding and inability to comprehend reality.

  • lets get the facts right.

    1. Quetzalcoatl is not taught in mormon doctrine.

    2. The symbol of the serpant to the Myans and Aztecs was a symbol of wisdon and not evil.

    3. Some historians say he was worshiped 200 BC and others 200 AD. You can see for yourself. just google it.

    4. Whoever made this video is most likely an inactive memebr of the LDS/ mormon faith and needs to go back to church.

    Don't fight it man. You know it's true.

  • I was never a mormon. I understand this video could have done with a bit more research. I never said all mormons believe this just some. I never said that Quetz was evil but that serpents seem to be evil in most western cultures primarily for religious reasons.

  • Wow! your response was more kind than I expected. People who usualy make videos like this stand in front of our religious centers with derogetory signs and hide behind dark glasses while they scream at the top of their lungs that we are going to hell. If anyone wants to know what the LDS/mormon faith believes and teaches then go to LDS dot org.

  • Ummm... This video has gives no references nor des Mormon doctrine claim this to be true. While many LDS individuals believe it, it is not Mormon Doctrine that Quetzalcoatl was Jesus Christ as spoken of int he Book Of Mormon. POOR SOURCE OF INFORMATION TWACKIUS. Your video is comparable to your name "WACK"

  • Nice, where you got that picture of Quetzalcoatl???

  • Dude....You're just so stupid!....I can't believe this! How could you make a rediculous claim like that?

  • Dude....I'm not making this claim. I'm just reporting. I don't believe in Quetzacoatl nor do I believe Jesus is the son of god, nor do i believe in god. If you don't like, or apparently understand my videos then maybe you should stop watching them.

  • actualy some mormons beleive that the aztecs were decendents of saints (those of Christs Church, LDS, Mormons if you will), but that they apostisized (regected the true gospel), but still had some cristian/pagan theology, and Jesus was born 2000 years ago, but the saints knew about him since adam and eve. Including those in the Americas

  • Ok, fair play. I'm just saying I never said that. It really seems stupid to me that people can believe stuff like that.

  • get your facts right. jesus is the christ and thats all that matters, says i, a mormon. and i dont think ther was a snake talking to eve, its just a symbolic term. and mormons dont beleive that the aztecs wer saints, they had a distorted view of the christ, if they knew about him at all. y did this guy waste his tym makin this video if thats not even wut we beleive? mormons like to speculate, thats all, nuttn more

  • I should have specified in my video that not all mormons believe this, sorry, but some do. Also I never said that mormons said the aztecs were saints.

  • "Why would Jesus be portrayed as a serpent?"

    Have you never heard the story of the brazen serpent? Look at the next paramedic vehichle or ambulance and notice the serpent on the staff. Then think about where the idea of looking towards a serpent on a staff came from.

    Then thing about the phrase "wise as serpents" and "harmless as doves,"

    Then pontificate on the snake that ate the snakes in Pharoah's court.

  • The medical symbol of the serpent on the staff is the rod of Asclepius, son of Apollo, who said to have known the secrets of keeping death at bay due after seeing one snake bring another healing herbs.

  • LDS views on history would make a serpent on a rod an element that would easily be seen as emergent in a vast number of traditions. Look at the wikipedia article you took that from and try and realize that many many cultures (INCLUDING JUDEO-CHRISTIAN) saw symbolism in snakes that was tied to healing and NOT inherently demonic forces.

    So regardless of the percieved origin of the present staff with the snake your point still stands refuted.

    Snakes are not inherent symbols of evil or deception.

  • Well most christians I have spoken too have told me that the serpent is an inherent symbol of evil and the devil. One even went so far as to tell me all reptiles are evil. And yes I did take that from a wikipedia article but only coz I couldn't remember the name of the rod.

  • A snake is not a symbol of the devil. The devil was a serpent in Genesis and lied to Eve. That does not mean that all serpents are demonic, thats a rediculous claim. So this video is STILL rediculous and hard headed. Please don't point out things you hear from Bible-thimpers and more from just normal faith-based Christians..

  • Damn right it's hard headed. Christians are hard headed in their beliefs so why can't I be in mine? And the Christians I know I would actually consider quite moderate. They're willing to just have a discussion about beliefs, even if they do believe some wierd shit like evil snakes.

  • That is why religions of the world are so fucked up !!!

  • One of the most ridiculous claims I have ever heard.

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