@XStarss All I know is that I had to wear a space suit outside my G suit and when we leveled off at 90,000 feet...I came off the seat due to the weightlessness (thank you seat belt). We only spent a few moments at that altitude before heading down in a cork screw like fashion. The canopy was frosting over as well...which was unsettling. The acceleration from Mach 0.99 (at 10,000 meters) to Mach 2.8 was nuts...it made the thrust of my Ferrari seem pitiful.
What a badass machine. Thanks for sharing. And so good that the former cold war enemies can now engage in friendly adventures. Ignore the losers like rcvideoshooter. Chances are he has no toys that compare to a MiG-25. Just another screeching weasel.
it never manged to catch one, a russian defector once told that sr-71 exceeds every aspect of mig-25 and doesn't have enough avionics to detect and lock a sr-71, mig-25's engine also gets ruined if it uses its full afterburners so it was a useless plane, failed interceptor.
Good job. I know exactly about what you are talking, and about what you saw. I did this 2 times in my life with the MIG-25. Max. altitude I reached was 92,250ft - this was taking my breath away. Unfortunately, the MIG-25 is grounded since mid 2006, so we can feel lucky to had have this chance of a lifetime. Thanks for the video, MIG-25 buddy!
An impressive machine. Thanks for sharing with us. I'm jealous! Forget what all the haters and trolls post. Migs are some of my favorite planes. Who cares what's better or worse, it's an awesome adrenaline-filled ride!
Great vid! So jealous! I love the big Russian warbirds. I've had a back seater in a RAF tornado gr4, I bet the mig pisses over that. Thank you very much for sharing, and for your time served as a marine.
@toady230uk Thanks mate...you're clearly a class act. It was a fantastic opportunity...10 days in Russia by myself...hanging out at the Metropol on Red Square for 5 days...and 5 days up in St Petersburg at The Grand Hotel Europe...treated like a rock star the entire time. All the best
You people are idiots. Let's not forget that this airplane FAILED to do what it was designed, not ONCE. In fact, the SR flew with total IMPUNITY over the most heavly patrolled areas in Russia. This plane is a miserable design, and in fact was so bad that the ENGINES had to be changed after each attempt at shooting down the SR. And Hohensautfen, as for the f15, it's record speaks for itself. There HAS never, nor WILL ever be a combat fighter that shares it's record of total ass kicking dominance.
@rcvideoshooter Unless you were involved in funding the 25 development, who cares? And if I recall correctly, engines only got reduced life flying above Mach 2.5 or something.
oh, and btw the F15 is a fighter, and the mig25 is an interceptor - that's like comparing sponge cake to cheesecake.
@80AFT Exactly why this kid had NO IDEA how dangerous what he was doing. Oh, and by the way, could YOU PLEASE TRY NOT TO SIT YOUR FAT ASS ON THE TAILFEATHERS PLEASE!!! For god sake bro....WAKE THE FUCK UP!!
@rcvideoshooter Umm...I'm not sure who you are referring to as a kid...but I'm a 43 year old international businessman and Marine who knew exactly what I was doing. My specialty as an intel analyst in the USMC was to study the 25, 29 and 23 and know it better than most...along with the orders of battle for all middle eastern countries.
@rcvideoshooter And whether or not the Foxbat was designed as an SR-71 interceptor, whether it failed or succeeded to ever shoot one down, whether the 29 was one of the first fighters to have true lookdown-shootdown radar capability is irrelevant. I've been to the edge of space and back and I operated the MiG29 for 22 minutes. The scariest part of this entire thread is that you're possibly a voter.
the liking of the engine isnt that...1 engine start before the other one...whe its no enought pressure in the combustion champer you "lose" some fuel at the start
@Hohenstaufen100 I never called any Russian plane "junk"! I said "worthless", as a bad way to say that the MiG-25 is a niche-fighter...it does one thing really well, at the expense of other area's. The Russians have been making equal or better planes for cheaper since WWII. Their approach is different, is all; I see it as the US makes planes for long peaces, while Russia builds them for war conditions. As a result, I'm certain that if it came to a non-nuke fight the US would have been swamped.
@justforever96 You don't know much about this plane do you? "Worthless" means no good value or no use. It responsoble for almost total annihilation of Israely airforce during Yom Kippur War, and by irony of making a peice in that war. It was not only a niche-fighter, though it been concieved as an interceptor, it could carry a unique 2X1000Lb special high velocity guided bombs, that are "bunker busters" and glide for about 30 milles traveling at more then Mach 2, mind you back in early 70s.
@3DBlockBuster I know enough about this plane, and I know that if a nation could pick any plane, this would be way down on the list, especially in modern times. It can fly higher and faster than other planes, but that's it. A Su-27 is a much better, more versatile airplane. I already said that "worthless" was the wrong word to use. And I don't think the MiG-25 was used in the Yom Kipper war. Also, I've never heard of the Israeli AF being "annihilated"...I thought it was the other way around!
@justforever96 You comparing apples to oranges. No such thing as, Su-27 better then MiG-25, they exist for a different purposes. Su-27 is a heavy air superiority fighter, MiG-25 that "supposed to be replaced" by MiG-31, both(25&31) are interceptors, and they belong to different branches of armed forces, Su-27 is Air Force, MiG-25 and 31 are PVO(air defence), just like you can't compare which car is better "autocross" vs. "drag racer". BTW price tag of MiG-31 is about double that of Su-27 ;)
@3DBlockBuster True, it's apples to oranges, I'm just saying of the two, an Su-27 is a more adaptable type, which can do many more things. But so isn't a MiG-29. A MiG-25 may be better "on paper" than a MiG-23, but at the same time the MiG-23 is far, far cheaper and has the same "look-down/shoot-down" radar as the (second) MiG-25 version had. Plus, a MiG-25 can't even go supersonic at low altitude. Like I said, it excels at only very high/fast missions, at a penalty in weight and cost.
@justforever96 What is better Su-27, MiG 29, 21, 23, 25? That is a question you might ask yourself if you playing computer RPG/Sim games or look at things retrospectrum. But if you are USSR that faces other Nuclear weapon armed super nation, that known to have means to deliver it at high altitude/high speed over Mach 2, possibly Mach 3 bommers, all other planes just become irralavent and uncapable to do job, and all of the sudden MiG-25 is the most important weapon/deterent that you have periot.
I don't play video games, and I never said they shouldn't have built it, or that it wasn't good at what it DID do. ALL my point was is that it is built for very specialized purposes, at the cost of capability in other areas. That's ALL I'm saying, so what are you arguing about? Are you going to try and convince anyone that a MiG-25 would make a great multi-role fighter? Or a nimble dogfighter? I sure hope not. It was built to do a certain job, and it succeeded so well it made itself obsolete!
@justforever96 You missing a point, again. It was special purpous design to counter a thread of anything form XB-70 and SR-71 to whatever Mach 2 nuclear/convetional weapon bommer NATO would through at USSR, design to do those missions that "other" agile dog fighter just simply can not do. Most of dog fights(as we know 'em) happens on subsonic speeds, do you know what a minimum radius turn at speeds of Mach 2 would be? MiG 25/31 armed with long range missiles, big radar and big engines to do job.
@3DBlockBuster Maybe I am missing your point, 'cause I'm not even sure exactly what it is we're arguing about here. You are saying that the MiG-25 isn't a worthless plane, and has value...I'm saying "yes, it does have value, but only for a few things". So what exactly is the problem? It may be really fast, etc. but that's it. That's just a fact! So what's the problem? I don't see why you would say that I'm wrong about that. And I'm not saying that you're wrong either!
@justforever96 I'm just pointing out a few missconceptions, not all fighters have to be a dog fighters, as a matter of fact when MiG-25 was developed, there was a theory both in US of A and USSR, that dog fights are thing of the past and obsolete. So when it was design, they could not care less about dog fights. What you saying, that its a dog fighter that fly fast, at the expence of dog fighting capabilities.
@justforever96 and arguing about what is better an interceptor or the dog fighter, is like arguing what is better "flat" or "phillips" screw driver, both screw drivers doing essentially the same thing, but you need both tools, because either one is a "handycap" in crewing other type of screws. That is all. Take it easy ;)
@justforever96 The other aspect to consider(something that "specifiaction"/numbers) would not "tell" you, is how much "influence" did this plane had, because of it many "ambitious" projects in USA were canceled or diverted. USA never again deared to violat Soviet airspace like it did with U-2 spy planes.
and yes, MiG 31 and 25 still fly patrols every day over Russia, something that its been primerely designed for.
@justforever96 BTW when MiG-25 there was a theory on both sides USA and USSR, that dog fights was a thing of the past, and in a "new era" faster plane with a bigger(read better) radar and better missiels will emerge victorious in a sky, if "general war" brokes out. That theory proved to be wrong, but direct products of this theory as MiG-25 and F-4 Phantom, was already operational ;) So in a sence its a "super plane", "unlike" any other in the world.
@3DBlockBuster Also the Mach 3.2 "top speed" you quote is only possible by wrecking the engines. Thus, it was rarely done. It's TRUE operational top speed is "only" Mach 2.83 ;). Anyway, my purpose isn't to bash the MiG-25, I'm just saying that it's a "one trick pony" (okay, two tricks!). The MiG-21 has sold far wider and better, despite also being limited by it's interceptor design. As for comparing cars, my point is that you can drag race an autocross car. You can't autocross a Funny Car!
@justforever96 Mach 3.2 is been cloaked by Israeli radar, MiG-25 was flown by Alexander Bejevetz(commander of 63 sqadron), its been attempted to be shut down with Israeli Sam and intersepted by F-4 Phantoms. He and his wing man made it back to the base every time they flew a mission, and no MiG-25 was lost during those recon missions due to engine failure.
@3DBlockBuster I didn't say that the engines failed during the mission, only that they were oversped and wrecked, meaning they had to scrap them after they returned. If you can only hit Mach 3.2 by treating expensive engines as expendable, you can't really consider that "normal operation capability". I think they'd have avoided interception just fine by doing Mach 2.8, you know? So, great recon plane, great interceptor, but that doesn't make it any better at more routine stuff like patrols, etc.
@justforever96 Its a well know fact, that MiG-25 "primiered" in Yom Kipper war, and been clocked by Israely radar at speed of Mach 3.2 when intercepted ;)
@3DBlockBuster BTW, one more thing...every search I've done says that the MiG-25 flew (very successful) recon missions during the Yom Kippur war, but I have yet to see any suggestion of any combat being engaged in that war, let alone "annihilating" the Israeli AF. In fact, I can't find any mention of that having happened at all, by any AC type! I think there was a MiG-25 kill in the Iran-Iraq war, but that was a single kill.
@justforever96 Its a well known fact, that MiG-25 "primiered" in Yom Kipper war, and been clocked by Israely radar at speed of Mach 3.2 when intercepted ;)
@3DBlockBuster BTW, "autocross" is a form of racing that involves driving as fast as possible around a short, very winding course, and "commute" is the term for a persons drive to work every morning. A funny car is a kind of very powerful drag racer that can drive (from a dead stop) to 1/4 of a mile in under 6 seconds. They are extremely well engineered and some of the fastest cars ever to exist...but they only work in a straight line. They would loose in a turning race. So would a MiG-25!
@justforever96 MiG-25 was also one of the first aircraft that had a LDSH(Look Down Shoot Down) radar, so intercepting a cruz missiles was yet another MiG-25 "specialties" ;)
You did a good thing - getting an adventure of a lifetime while helping to keep those aircraft going (notice the poor state of maintenance of that flight) at the same time.
I thought this video had footage from the cockpit at 90,000ft? That was half the reason I had it in my favorites. This whole time I thought it showed the view from the edge of space, but it doesn't. Still cool, but I must have been thinking of another video when I favorited it.
@Hohenstaufen100 Sukhoi T-50 FGFA would be more advanced and powerful as compare to F-22 Raptor, because Russian already nows what kind of technology used for making F-22 like stealth, vector thrusting, VSTOL, helmet orinented controls. Sukhoei spokesperson already said that Russia and Indian will make together this future fighter and it will be more powerful, advanced in the way of stealth, radar technology, communication encryption technology, speedy and equiped with BVRAM missile.
@Hohenstaufen100 Yes, Sukhoi T-50 FGFA would be more advanced and powerful as compare to F-22 Raptor, because Russian already nows what kind of technology used for making F-22 like stealth, vector thrusting, VSTOL, helmet orinented controls. Sukhoei spokesperson already said that Russia and Indian will make together this future fighter and it will be more powerful, advanced in the way of stealth, radar technology, communication encryption technology, speedy and equiped with BVRAM missile.
@Hohenstaufen100 Russian planes would be far superior if built to American standards. Still they are rust buckets, but I love them. 25, 29, 35 and SU-27 my all time favs
@Hohenstaufen100 So, yes, if not for the MiG-25 the F-15 wouldn't exist (and I think the West copied it more than they let on: huge square intakes, twin fins, etc). But once the Mach 3 threats were gone...those missiles didn't do any good without targets. Even as a recon plane, it was limited by its range. So, it did its job as expected, and did it far cheaper than anything the West could manage...it had it's Golden Moment. After that...impressive, but worthless as a general combat fighter.
@Hohenstaufen100 Whoah, whoah...not so fast! I am a big fan of Russian planes, actually. I didn't mean that the MiG-25 was literally "worthless"; I just meant that it was designed for one job, to defeat the SR-71 (or the XB-70?). They quit SR-71 flights and the XB-70 never appeared...so it had no job! It went very fast, and very high, but it was poor at anything lower than like 60,000ft. It was amazing for the fact it matched the SR-71 WITHOUT all the expensive tech.
@stevenbitter I bought the entire package from Incredible Adventures. They planned and booked everything for me...including my flights from the USA to Russia and onward to Thailand.
@tronicson Well, they WERE very powerful engines, but they were so optimized for very-high-altitude flight that they were not so great at lower levels. So compared to a "normal" fighter at very-high-altitude, yeah they accelerated pretty good. Even so, it weighed an awful lot...generally a little fighter with a not-as-big engine will be more of a "kick-in-the-ass"...think F-104, etc. And even at high-alt, I've read of SR-71's accelerating away from MiG-25's at Mach 2.9...must be them ramjets!
@KIBProductionz I already said it once, but it's so interesting....!
Planes like this and the SR-71 get VERY hot from the air friction of Mach 3, even in the thin air at 70,000+ft (Mach 3 is faster than a rifle bullet!). Metal expands when it heats up, so the planes are designed to "fit loose"...this includes the joints of the fuel tanks...while on the ground (and cool).So, until flying fast, the MiG-25/SR-71 leak fuel...that's a drain from the fuselage. They take off, and fill up from tankers.
that at 1:02 is cloose you can get to seeing what happens inside the jet engine's combustion chambers up and personal without special PC FXs reley cloose
Couldn't tell you. I did it in a MiG25 Foxbat (the video you commented about). I flew (yes operated) the 29 for over 20 minutes and I think that it wouldn't be a prolem to get it to 90k...it has wings and 2 big engines.
@scratchhh187 - How do you get to 90K in a MiG-25? Depends on whether you mean "how do YOU get to 90K?" or "how does a MIG-25 get to 90K?". YOU can get to 90K in a Foxbat for $50,000, like the guy says...a Russian Tourism gimmick, using 2-seat Foxbat trainers. The plane itself, however can reach 90K easily. It was designed to intercept the SR-71 Blackbird, a US, Mach 3+, 90,000+ ft recon plane, so the only thing the MiG-25 CAN do is go really high, and really fast. Besides that, it's worthless.
@justforever96 Worthless, really =$ Its still holds unbeaten since 1977 absolute Flight Altitude World Record of 123,520 ft, it had the most powerfull radar for the time, and only dozen planes can cover wast USSR that used to have the 6th of all the land on a planet and spends across 11 hourly belts :) Kinda AWAC on a cheap. Recon virant could provide HiDef close ups of England in just one mission with impunity and very little chances to be shut down. Operates in any climated and crude fields ;)
@3DBlockBuster Okay, okay. Geez. I was mostly speaking to those who talk as if it was the deadliest superplane ever to fly. That, it's not. But it is excellent engineering, and it has seen many years of valuable service. I never meant to trash any MiG, seriously, I was just saying using cars as a comparison, the MiG-25 would be a Nitro Funny Car...highly capable at going REALLY fast in a straight line, but I wouldn't want to autocross (or commute) in one! AND they both get horrid mileage! =)
@justforever96 Deadliest is a very arguable term. Superplane, well nothing like this exist, even now dayz. It have an ability to find enemy aircraft, shoot it down, and get away "Scott Free" ;) No need to dog fight either... What do you mean autocross/or commute? o_0
USA armed forces are heavely depending on a space satelites. Mig-25 is the only "proven" anti-satelite weapon. So "worthless junk" terms applies to those that been permanently grounded, i.e. "junked" or "choped" to pieces like F-4 Phantom, F-14 TomCat, "Shuttle" and etc. While others still carry on, like "Soyuz" and Mig-25, so they must be "good for something" ;)
Hmm...it's hard to say. As you can see in my list of videos, I took 4 flights (the trainer, MiG 23, MiG 25 and MiG 29). Also included in the package, was a first class flight from St. Louis to Moscow, then on to Bangkok...as well as 5 nights in the Metropol in Moscow and 5 nights at the Grand Hotel Europe in St. Petersburg (and the Red Line up and back). The entire trip was about $50,000 if my memory is correct.
I am actually not so sure, but what I understand is that the fuel leak is planned...because the plane expands at altitude. I wore a space suit in that flight.
@klbloom- Awesome...that's all I needed to know! I heard it was for "fuel drainage", but I wasn't sure if he meant "fuel-jettison" instead. The SR-71 has a similar problem. It's not the altitude, but the heat from the air friction at 2,000+MPH that causes expansion. The plane must be able to expand when the skin reaches 300+ degrees, so the fuel tanks have gaps in the seams until the airframe heats up (like expansion joints on a bridge). LOL, did they warn you not to touch the canopy?
Awesome. I forgot how damn BIG those jetpipes are! What's up with the fuel leaking from the nozzle? Does the MiG-25 use fuel to cool the burners, or what? In any case, maybe someone should stick some bublegum in that hole, or something. MiG-25 Foxbat- the reason they built the F-15.
Damn, those turbines are huge!
Is there a height limit for the pilot?
I'm 6 feet 4 and I suspect if I ever won the lottery, I'd be too tall to be allowed a flight in a Foxbat!
ToonandBBfan 6 days ago
@ToonandBBfan I'm 6'3" and I had no problem mate
klbloom 6 days ago
@klbloom
Thanks, the MiG 25 is quite some machine!
ToonandBBfan 6 days ago
I do have cockpit cam...on YouTube...but it is too long for googles liking
klbloom 3 weeks ago
DUDE WHY NO VIDEO CAMERA ON BOARD????
YouTheory 3 weeks ago
90.000 feet is not limit, this plane can go up to 38 km (125,000 feet) (that is world record made on MIG-25)
XStarss 2 months ago
@XStarss All I know is that I had to wear a space suit outside my G suit and when we leveled off at 90,000 feet...I came off the seat due to the weightlessness (thank you seat belt). We only spent a few moments at that altitude before heading down in a cork screw like fashion. The canopy was frosting over as well...which was unsettling. The acceleration from Mach 0.99 (at 10,000 meters) to Mach 2.8 was nuts...it made the thrust of my Ferrari seem pitiful.
klbloom 2 months ago
@XStarss i bet thier like stupid americna we can fly higher and faster then the f-22 and it 30 years old.
omega4chimp 12 hours ago
What a badass machine. Thanks for sharing. And so good that the former cold war enemies can now engage in friendly adventures. Ignore the losers like rcvideoshooter. Chances are he has no toys that compare to a MiG-25. Just another screeching weasel.
soyounoat 2 months ago
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"it never manged to catch one"
It was never reported it caught one.
"a russian defector once told that sr-71 exceeds every aspect of mig-25"
The Mig-25 holds the world altitude record.
"mig-25's engine also gets ruined if it uses its full afterburners"
The engines are damaged, as on any other plane, when it exceeds it's top velocity, not due to the afterburners being on.
"it was a useless plane, failed interceptor."
No, it wasn't.
lexichronicle2 3 months ago
nice vid lucky you i would have loved to have done that when i was in russia but not rich enough but i see a beautiful country
2010butchd 3 months ago
Good lord these Tumansky R-15s are MASSIVE.
Lopezs777 3 months ago
it never manged to catch one, a russian defector once told that sr-71 exceeds every aspect of mig-25 and doesn't have enough avionics to detect and lock a sr-71, mig-25's engine also gets ruined if it uses its full afterburners so it was a useless plane, failed interceptor.
dharmdevil 3 months ago
Best plane in the world. Amazing.
Pivnojduh29 3 months ago
I'm so green with envy!! I love America's and Russia's muscle jets!! Thank you for sharing. A truly once in a lifetime event.
pulgabros 3 months ago
Good job. I know exactly about what you are talking, and about what you saw. I did this 2 times in my life with the MIG-25. Max. altitude I reached was 92,250ft - this was taking my breath away. Unfortunately, the MIG-25 is grounded since mid 2006, so we can feel lucky to had have this chance of a lifetime. Thanks for the video, MIG-25 buddy!
SEL9000 3 months ago
great stuff. I'd love to do that myself - but I think they stopped these flights now :(
oinari12345 4 months ago
An impressive machine. Thanks for sharing with us. I'm jealous! Forget what all the haters and trolls post. Migs are some of my favorite planes. Who cares what's better or worse, it's an awesome adrenaline-filled ride!
tubernation1 4 months ago
Great vid! So jealous! I love the big Russian warbirds. I've had a back seater in a RAF tornado gr4, I bet the mig pisses over that. Thank you very much for sharing, and for your time served as a marine.
toady230uk 4 months ago
@toady230uk Thanks mate...you're clearly a class act. It was a fantastic opportunity...10 days in Russia by myself...hanging out at the Metropol on Red Square for 5 days...and 5 days up in St Petersburg at The Grand Hotel Europe...treated like a rock star the entire time. All the best
klbloom 4 months ago
You people are idiots. Let's not forget that this airplane FAILED to do what it was designed, not ONCE. In fact, the SR flew with total IMPUNITY over the most heavly patrolled areas in Russia. This plane is a miserable design, and in fact was so bad that the ENGINES had to be changed after each attempt at shooting down the SR. And Hohensautfen, as for the f15, it's record speaks for itself. There HAS never, nor WILL ever be a combat fighter that shares it's record of total ass kicking dominance.
rcvideoshooter 4 months ago
@rcvideoshooter Unless you were involved in funding the 25 development, who cares? And if I recall correctly, engines only got reduced life flying above Mach 2.5 or something.
oh, and btw the F15 is a fighter, and the mig25 is an interceptor - that's like comparing sponge cake to cheesecake.
MartinObviously 4 months ago
90 000 feet? without space suits?
80AFT 4 months ago
@80AFT Exactly why this kid had NO IDEA how dangerous what he was doing. Oh, and by the way, could YOU PLEASE TRY NOT TO SIT YOUR FAT ASS ON THE TAILFEATHERS PLEASE!!! For god sake bro....WAKE THE FUCK UP!!
rcvideoshooter 4 months ago
@rcvideoshooter Umm...I'm not sure who you are referring to as a kid...but I'm a 43 year old international businessman and Marine who knew exactly what I was doing. My specialty as an intel analyst in the USMC was to study the 25, 29 and 23 and know it better than most...along with the orders of battle for all middle eastern countries.
klbloom 4 months ago
@rcvideoshooter And whether or not the Foxbat was designed as an SR-71 interceptor, whether it failed or succeeded to ever shoot one down, whether the 29 was one of the first fighters to have true lookdown-shootdown radar capability is irrelevant. I've been to the edge of space and back and I operated the MiG29 for 22 minutes. The scariest part of this entire thread is that you're possibly a voter.
klbloom 4 months ago 8
@80AFT I wore a g-suit inside a space suit inside some other corny suit
klbloom 4 months ago
@Nepo35...I paid a lot of money to the Russian Government through Incredible Adventures in Florida.
klbloom 4 months ago
How do you get to fly on these.... I'm hoping to go to russia sometime....
Nepo35 4 months ago
the liking of the engine isnt that...1 engine start before the other one...whe its no enought pressure in the combustion champer you "lose" some fuel at the start
mauricioalfredo83 5 months ago
heh mig 25's...so fast they tend to burn out their engines
zythepsarian 5 months ago
wow thats a huge plane
Mandrak789 5 months ago
Looks like fun. Good looking aircraft.
DavidHill333 5 months ago
2 bi big engines added wings.
paulcadaver 6 months ago
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paulcadaver 6 months ago
@Hohenstaufen100 I never called any Russian plane "junk"! I said "worthless", as a bad way to say that the MiG-25 is a niche-fighter...it does one thing really well, at the expense of other area's. The Russians have been making equal or better planes for cheaper since WWII. Their approach is different, is all; I see it as the US makes planes for long peaces, while Russia builds them for war conditions. As a result, I'm certain that if it came to a non-nuke fight the US would have been swamped.
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96 You don't know much about this plane do you? "Worthless" means no good value or no use. It responsoble for almost total annihilation of Israely airforce during Yom Kippur War, and by irony of making a peice in that war. It was not only a niche-fighter, though it been concieved as an interceptor, it could carry a unique 2X1000Lb special high velocity guided bombs, that are "bunker busters" and glide for about 30 milles traveling at more then Mach 2, mind you back in early 70s.
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@3DBlockBuster I know enough about this plane, and I know that if a nation could pick any plane, this would be way down on the list, especially in modern times. It can fly higher and faster than other planes, but that's it. A Su-27 is a much better, more versatile airplane. I already said that "worthless" was the wrong word to use. And I don't think the MiG-25 was used in the Yom Kipper war. Also, I've never heard of the Israeli AF being "annihilated"...I thought it was the other way around!
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96 You comparing apples to oranges. No such thing as, Su-27 better then MiG-25, they exist for a different purposes. Su-27 is a heavy air superiority fighter, MiG-25 that "supposed to be replaced" by MiG-31, both(25&31) are interceptors, and they belong to different branches of armed forces, Su-27 is Air Force, MiG-25 and 31 are PVO(air defence), just like you can't compare which car is better "autocross" vs. "drag racer". BTW price tag of MiG-31 is about double that of Su-27 ;)
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@3DBlockBuster True, it's apples to oranges, I'm just saying of the two, an Su-27 is a more adaptable type, which can do many more things. But so isn't a MiG-29. A MiG-25 may be better "on paper" than a MiG-23, but at the same time the MiG-23 is far, far cheaper and has the same "look-down/shoot-down" radar as the (second) MiG-25 version had. Plus, a MiG-25 can't even go supersonic at low altitude. Like I said, it excels at only very high/fast missions, at a penalty in weight and cost.
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96 What is better Su-27, MiG 29, 21, 23, 25? That is a question you might ask yourself if you playing computer RPG/Sim games or look at things retrospectrum. But if you are USSR that faces other Nuclear weapon armed super nation, that known to have means to deliver it at high altitude/high speed over Mach 2, possibly Mach 3 bommers, all other planes just become irralavent and uncapable to do job, and all of the sudden MiG-25 is the most important weapon/deterent that you have periot.
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
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justforever96 7 months ago
I don't play video games, and I never said they shouldn't have built it, or that it wasn't good at what it DID do. ALL my point was is that it is built for very specialized purposes, at the cost of capability in other areas. That's ALL I'm saying, so what are you arguing about? Are you going to try and convince anyone that a MiG-25 would make a great multi-role fighter? Or a nimble dogfighter? I sure hope not. It was built to do a certain job, and it succeeded so well it made itself obsolete!
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96 You missing a point, again. It was special purpous design to counter a thread of anything form XB-70 and SR-71 to whatever Mach 2 nuclear/convetional weapon bommer NATO would through at USSR, design to do those missions that "other" agile dog fighter just simply can not do. Most of dog fights(as we know 'em) happens on subsonic speeds, do you know what a minimum radius turn at speeds of Mach 2 would be? MiG 25/31 armed with long range missiles, big radar and big engines to do job.
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@3DBlockBuster Maybe I am missing your point, 'cause I'm not even sure exactly what it is we're arguing about here. You are saying that the MiG-25 isn't a worthless plane, and has value...I'm saying "yes, it does have value, but only for a few things". So what exactly is the problem? It may be really fast, etc. but that's it. That's just a fact! So what's the problem? I don't see why you would say that I'm wrong about that. And I'm not saying that you're wrong either!
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96 I'm just pointing out a few missconceptions, not all fighters have to be a dog fighters, as a matter of fact when MiG-25 was developed, there was a theory both in US of A and USSR, that dog fights are thing of the past and obsolete. So when it was design, they could not care less about dog fights. What you saying, that its a dog fighter that fly fast, at the expence of dog fighting capabilities.
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@justforever96 and arguing about what is better an interceptor or the dog fighter, is like arguing what is better "flat" or "phillips" screw driver, both screw drivers doing essentially the same thing, but you need both tools, because either one is a "handycap" in crewing other type of screws. That is all. Take it easy ;)
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@justforever96 The other aspect to consider(something that "specifiaction"/numbers) would not "tell" you, is how much "influence" did this plane had, because of it many "ambitious" projects in USA were canceled or diverted. USA never again deared to violat Soviet airspace like it did with U-2 spy planes.
and yes, MiG 31 and 25 still fly patrols every day over Russia, something that its been primerely designed for.
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@justforever96 BTW when MiG-25 there was a theory on both sides USA and USSR, that dog fights was a thing of the past, and in a "new era" faster plane with a bigger(read better) radar and better missiels will emerge victorious in a sky, if "general war" brokes out. That theory proved to be wrong, but direct products of this theory as MiG-25 and F-4 Phantom, was already operational ;) So in a sence its a "super plane", "unlike" any other in the world.
P.S.Excuse my spelling ;(
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@3DBlockBuster Also the Mach 3.2 "top speed" you quote is only possible by wrecking the engines. Thus, it was rarely done. It's TRUE operational top speed is "only" Mach 2.83 ;). Anyway, my purpose isn't to bash the MiG-25, I'm just saying that it's a "one trick pony" (okay, two tricks!). The MiG-21 has sold far wider and better, despite also being limited by it's interceptor design. As for comparing cars, my point is that you can drag race an autocross car. You can't autocross a Funny Car!
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96 Mach 3.2 is been cloaked by Israeli radar, MiG-25 was flown by Alexander Bejevetz(commander of 63 sqadron), its been attempted to be shut down with Israeli Sam and intersepted by F-4 Phantoms. He and his wing man made it back to the base every time they flew a mission, and no MiG-25 was lost during those recon missions due to engine failure.
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@3DBlockBuster I didn't say that the engines failed during the mission, only that they were oversped and wrecked, meaning they had to scrap them after they returned. If you can only hit Mach 3.2 by treating expensive engines as expendable, you can't really consider that "normal operation capability". I think they'd have avoided interception just fine by doing Mach 2.8, you know? So, great recon plane, great interceptor, but that doesn't make it any better at more routine stuff like patrols, etc.
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96 Its a well know fact, that MiG-25 "primiered" in Yom Kipper war, and been clocked by Israely radar at speed of Mach 3.2 when intercepted ;)
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@3DBlockBuster BTW, one more thing...every search I've done says that the MiG-25 flew (very successful) recon missions during the Yom Kippur war, but I have yet to see any suggestion of any combat being engaged in that war, let alone "annihilating" the Israeli AF. In fact, I can't find any mention of that having happened at all, by any AC type! I think there was a MiG-25 kill in the Iran-Iraq war, but that was a single kill.
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96 Its a well known fact, that MiG-25 "primiered" in Yom Kipper war, and been clocked by Israely radar at speed of Mach 3.2 when intercepted ;)
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@3DBlockBuster BTW, "autocross" is a form of racing that involves driving as fast as possible around a short, very winding course, and "commute" is the term for a persons drive to work every morning. A funny car is a kind of very powerful drag racer that can drive (from a dead stop) to 1/4 of a mile in under 6 seconds. They are extremely well engineered and some of the fastest cars ever to exist...but they only work in a straight line. They would loose in a turning race. So would a MiG-25!
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96 MiG-25 was also one of the first aircraft that had a LDSH(Look Down Shoot Down) radar, so intercepting a cruz missiles was yet another MiG-25 "specialties" ;)
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
How long age did you do this flight? I would have loved to have gone up in the mig 25
numbers111222 9 months ago
@Hohenstaufen100 the f-15 is still the best tactical air to air fighter in the world. The f22 is hardly pumped up.
BeLikeWater1000 9 months ago
After hearing about operational costs of US planes only paying $50,000 for 4 flights really surprises me.
hammr25 10 months ago
Wow that is badass
heymisterderp 10 months ago
Ohh Maann!!
You did a good thing - getting an adventure of a lifetime while helping to keep those aircraft going (notice the poor state of maintenance of that flight) at the same time.
Vee6watchman 10 months ago
Huge plane.
chalkomatas 11 months ago
I thought this video had footage from the cockpit at 90,000ft? That was half the reason I had it in my favorites. This whole time I thought it showed the view from the edge of space, but it doesn't. Still cool, but I must have been thinking of another video when I favorited it.
justforever96 11 months ago
bellav y efectiva maquina!!!
miguelito5627 1 year ago
the best.............
rankopanko 1 year ago
@Hohenstaufen100 Very good answer and explain.......... marvelous!!
dk7e7 1 year ago
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@Hohenstaufen100 Sukhoi T-50 FGFA would be more advanced and powerful as compare to F-22 Raptor, because Russian already nows what kind of technology used for making F-22 like stealth, vector thrusting, VSTOL, helmet orinented controls. Sukhoei spokesperson already said that Russia and Indian will make together this future fighter and it will be more powerful, advanced in the way of stealth, radar technology, communication encryption technology, speedy and equiped with BVRAM missile.
dk7e7 1 year ago
@Hohenstaufen100 Yes, Sukhoi T-50 FGFA would be more advanced and powerful as compare to F-22 Raptor, because Russian already nows what kind of technology used for making F-22 like stealth, vector thrusting, VSTOL, helmet orinented controls. Sukhoei spokesperson already said that Russia and Indian will make together this future fighter and it will be more powerful, advanced in the way of stealth, radar technology, communication encryption technology, speedy and equiped with BVRAM missile.
dk7e7 1 year ago
You're a lucky man...
BelgianCommando 1 year ago
It's a history and remind me about Victor Belenko.
Zudhep 1 year ago
@Hohenstaufen100 F-22 and F-35 vs unfinished Mig-44. who do you thinks going to win? living on an air force base is not TV thanks.
vai2iant 1 year ago
@Hohenstaufen100 Russian planes would be far superior if built to American standards. Still they are rust buckets, but I love them. 25, 29, 35 and SU-27 my all time favs
vai2iant 1 year ago
@Hohenstaufen100 So, yes, if not for the MiG-25 the F-15 wouldn't exist (and I think the West copied it more than they let on: huge square intakes, twin fins, etc). But once the Mach 3 threats were gone...those missiles didn't do any good without targets. Even as a recon plane, it was limited by its range. So, it did its job as expected, and did it far cheaper than anything the West could manage...it had it's Golden Moment. After that...impressive, but worthless as a general combat fighter.
justforever96 1 year ago
@Hohenstaufen100 Whoah, whoah...not so fast! I am a big fan of Russian planes, actually. I didn't mean that the MiG-25 was literally "worthless"; I just meant that it was designed for one job, to defeat the SR-71 (or the XB-70?). They quit SR-71 flights and the XB-70 never appeared...so it had no job! It went very fast, and very high, but it was poor at anything lower than like 60,000ft. It was amazing for the fact it matched the SR-71 WITHOUT all the expensive tech.
justforever96 1 year ago
OMG Tell me HOW the hell did you get there?!
stevenbitter 1 year ago
@stevenbitter I bought the entire package from Incredible Adventures. They planned and booked everything for me...including my flights from the USA to Russia and onward to Thailand.
klbloom 1 year ago
holy shit the engines are huge
therealbamlee 1 year ago
Yes...it did...the acceleration was even amazing from Mach 0.9 to Mach 2.8
klbloom 1 year ago
2 vast engines with a cockpit.. haha.. that must accelerate like hell :-)
tronicson 1 year ago
@tronicson Well, they WERE very powerful engines, but they were so optimized for very-high-altitude flight that they were not so great at lower levels. So compared to a "normal" fighter at very-high-altitude, yeah they accelerated pretty good. Even so, it weighed an awful lot...generally a little fighter with a not-as-big engine will be more of a "kick-in-the-ass"...think F-104, etc. And even at high-alt, I've read of SR-71's accelerating away from MiG-25's at Mach 2.9...must be them ramjets!
justforever96 1 year ago
how loud is the mig as I heard the eurofighter typhoon today and im sure these migs are even more powerful, I bet this is one amazing experience
benjyboba 1 year ago
what was the fuel leak for?
KIBProductionz 1 year ago
@KIBProductionz I already said it once, but it's so interesting....!
Planes like this and the SR-71 get VERY hot from the air friction of Mach 3, even in the thin air at 70,000+ft (Mach 3 is faster than a rifle bullet!). Metal expands when it heats up, so the planes are designed to "fit loose"...this includes the joints of the fuel tanks...while on the ground (and cool).So, until flying fast, the MiG-25/SR-71 leak fuel...that's a drain from the fuselage. They take off, and fill up from tankers.
justforever96 1 year ago
that at 1:02 is cloose you can get to seeing what happens inside the jet engine's combustion chambers up and personal without special PC FXs reley cloose
hdyudu 1 year ago
Couldn't tell you. I did it in a MiG25 Foxbat (the video you commented about). I flew (yes operated) the 29 for over 20 minutes and I think that it wouldn't be a prolem to get it to 90k...it has wings and 2 big engines.
klbloom 2 years ago
@klbloom The 29's service ceiling is something like 75 isnt it?
Antifaith29 4 months ago
how the hell do u get 90000ft in a mig29...I dont get it
scratchhh187 2 years ago
@scratchhh187 - How do you get to 90K in a MiG-25? Depends on whether you mean "how do YOU get to 90K?" or "how does a MIG-25 get to 90K?". YOU can get to 90K in a Foxbat for $50,000, like the guy says...a Russian Tourism gimmick, using 2-seat Foxbat trainers. The plane itself, however can reach 90K easily. It was designed to intercept the SR-71 Blackbird, a US, Mach 3+, 90,000+ ft recon plane, so the only thing the MiG-25 CAN do is go really high, and really fast. Besides that, it's worthless.
justforever96 1 year ago
@justforever96 Worthless, really =$ Its still holds unbeaten since 1977 absolute Flight Altitude World Record of 123,520 ft, it had the most powerfull radar for the time, and only dozen planes can cover wast USSR that used to have the 6th of all the land on a planet and spends across 11 hourly belts :) Kinda AWAC on a cheap. Recon virant could provide HiDef close ups of England in just one mission with impunity and very little chances to be shut down. Operates in any climated and crude fields ;)
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@3DBlockBuster Okay, okay. Geez. I was mostly speaking to those who talk as if it was the deadliest superplane ever to fly. That, it's not. But it is excellent engineering, and it has seen many years of valuable service. I never meant to trash any MiG, seriously, I was just saying using cars as a comparison, the MiG-25 would be a Nitro Funny Car...highly capable at going REALLY fast in a straight line, but I wouldn't want to autocross (or commute) in one! AND they both get horrid mileage! =)
justforever96 7 months ago
@justforever96 Deadliest is a very arguable term. Superplane, well nothing like this exist, even now dayz. It have an ability to find enemy aircraft, shoot it down, and get away "Scott Free" ;) No need to dog fight either... What do you mean autocross/or commute? o_0
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
USA armed forces are heavely depending on a space satelites. Mig-25 is the only "proven" anti-satelite weapon. So "worthless junk" terms applies to those that been permanently grounded, i.e. "junked" or "choped" to pieces like F-4 Phantom, F-14 TomCat, "Shuttle" and etc. While others still carry on, like "Soyuz" and Mig-25, so they must be "good for something" ;)
3DBlockBuster 7 months ago
@scratchhh187 ..... it's a mig 25 O_o
Cnupoc 1 year ago
Hmm...it's hard to say. As you can see in my list of videos, I took 4 flights (the trainer, MiG 23, MiG 25 and MiG 29). Also included in the package, was a first class flight from St. Louis to Moscow, then on to Bangkok...as well as 5 nights in the Metropol in Moscow and 5 nights at the Grand Hotel Europe in St. Petersburg (and the Red Line up and back). The entire trip was about $50,000 if my memory is correct.
klbloom 2 years ago
How much was it to get that ride? I went to Ukraine two years ago to fly the Mi-8MTV. I'll never forget it.
Stickman53fe 2 years ago
I am actually not so sure, but what I understand is that the fuel leak is planned...because the plane expands at altitude. I wore a space suit in that flight.
klbloom 2 years ago
@klbloom- Awesome...that's all I needed to know! I heard it was for "fuel drainage", but I wasn't sure if he meant "fuel-jettison" instead. The SR-71 has a similar problem. It's not the altitude, but the heat from the air friction at 2,000+MPH that causes expansion. The plane must be able to expand when the skin reaches 300+ degrees, so the fuel tanks have gaps in the seams until the airframe heats up (like expansion joints on a bridge). LOL, did they warn you not to touch the canopy?
justforever96 1 year ago
Awesome. I forgot how damn BIG those jetpipes are! What's up with the fuel leaking from the nozzle? Does the MiG-25 use fuel to cool the burners, or what? In any case, maybe someone should stick some bublegum in that hole, or something. MiG-25 Foxbat- the reason they built the F-15.
justforever96 2 years ago