I don't know how to do this... For moments I find serenity but daily worries take me away from this. I'm so stressed and fearful....deadlines, exams, loneliness...etc
We are conditioned this way... interesting that he talks about "ideas" being the problem and does not acknowledge the fact that we are conditioned to be this way.
If every human listened to the simple wisdom of his or her OWN HEART...instead of fighting against themselves and FORCING themselves to conform to certain ideas and notions...then order, peace and harmony would prevail. Some quotes to back this up...Ramana Maharshi: 'all effort is the bondage'...Lao Tzu: 'give up striving and all will be in order'...Much love fellow humans...much love...xxx
To seek the truth, go to google and type in Truth Contest, and click on the first result. Read The Present on the first page. If you can write a better entry, please let us know.
Instead of trying to change the world, which I am probably trying to do right now, change yourself first.. The power to change the world comes from and starts with changing yourself, and you'll know it when you feel it. The world will follow naturally. The signs that you are wrong are everywhere so don't go kidding yourself. Signs like getting angry but then saying damn criminals, so angry more than me, my anger is only little. Conquer this first, naturally the world will see.
The desire to project unity under "a common purpose" is obviously another form of darkness, and not something that possesses any true inherent reality. The need for human beings to have clean drinking water, food, adequate shelter and clothing is an entirely different matter. When these basic human necessities are denied to sectors of the human population, war arises.
The green revolution must obviously signify the end of global capitalism and the beggining of radical, local particularism and green democracy. Technological development will enable the continuation of the intergrating of the world's people.
The green revolution of course, is the end of capitalism, end the beggining of radical local particularism and green democracy; the desire to project unity is itself darkness. Isn't that obvious?
The green revolution of course, is the end of capitalism, and the beggining of radical local particularism and green democracy; the desire to project unity is itself darkness. Isn't that obvious?
The green revolution of course, is the end of capitalism, and the beggining of radical local particularism and green democracy; the desire to project unity is itself darkness. Isn't that obvious?
If we wreck the earth now, fighting for resources, stockpiling resources as a means of retribution and as a mechanism for creating power then all future generations of humanity are going to have a diminished existence, whether they call themselves Chinese, Indian, Russian, Brazilian, or American. And that is not fair for anyone. We should be thinking about the grandchildren of our grandchildren- obviously the only serious attempt at peace must be a green revolution.
There is simply no other way forward than to learn from the mistakes of the past and to chose not to repeat them. This includes the choice that we have now; to not prepare for war, to not prepare to fight other human beings to be take as much of the earth's resources now as a means of retribution for past injustices, because the truth of the universe as we know it is that the arrow of time flows in one direction only.
I agree with you Arzoyan, difficult times lie ahead. Fear and mistrust could lead to war which would be the end of that possibility, and the chance may not arise again for another 1000 years, possibly even far longer. The time for honesty is now, and we need to build bridges of trust to work out time frames for the colonising societies to be able to repay their debts to the earth without inciting fear and hatred and punishing them unnecessarily due to a retrospective propaganda of history.
I just read what I wrote then and I wouldn't write that now. I wish everyone the best of luck and I hope you can allow the light of love to come into your heart - from your heart.
@moeantaki "...what is sad is that only 47,878 people got the message ... which means we live in a very diseased society..." Yes, only 48k views. Measured against viral videos, depressingly small. But how do you account for the fact that never in the history of the world have so many inquiring people, 48k, gathered in one place (even if a comments thread)? Has that happened before? Interested, curious people looking into something so basic to experience, fear?. That's gotta mean something. ;).
I am from Ojai California, the most spiritual place on Earth. When I lived there I spent alot of time in Matilija Canyon, feeling the presence of Krishnamurti there.
I was going through some books at a used book store in Ojai, Barts Books, and found an old paperback about the life of Krishnamurti.
It was the hardest book I ever read,The life that was chosen for him to live. He gave it all up to be where I was at the time. Ohhhh, how I miss that " Nest", Ojai California!!!
Last time i watched this video ,it has hit 47,878 views what is sad is that only 47,878 people got the message that is if all got the message ,now realize how many people didn't get the message which means we live in a very diseased society where thinking and understanding have not become important anymore and conditioning became a must in order to survive .humanity loves being controlled and freedom is lost, What A Shame!
physiologically we are programed to detect danger and this has kept our species going. We need fear to stay alive. Psychologically I think we have fear whenever we get attached to something or someone and we fear the loss. Given our being socialized and domesticated in this society dealing with fear begins with awareness, being patient with the self, and practicing letting go.
Capitalism the wage slavery of immense humanity in a politically manipulated market mechanism of artificial scarcity to impose poverty and exploitation in the interest of the ruling class. A system of commodity production for profit perpetuating fear,insecurity,war,enviornmental destructions,animal cruelty of industrial scale. We need to reclaim our Lives/Earth for a world of cooperation for our common needs and well being in enlightenment and wisdom with the Universe.
@arzoyan Agreed! But, despite the violence, hunger, division in the world, people don't change. And, if as a individual, you manage to see 'truth' - how long before this society destroys you. Sucks you back into its competitiveness, violence? How does the light stay on when your sitting on a hot stove?
@arzoyan Capitalism is not the problem. In a truly free society consenting adults would be able to freely trade with one another.
The problem is corporatism. Which is created through powers granted from the government. In essence, I hope to shine light on the ideas of voluntaryism.
@OhMyGoog Capitalism is the compulsion of workers to sell themselves for survival, over 3 billion workers are on 2 dolllar a day, thats not consenting or in your illusiory world they are ? Capitalism is organised violence to dominate all for a few.
@arzoyan absolutely. I have much to learn, but here in mInnesota I am hoping to live an teach a new way to live. Intentionally.. .intergenerationally... using FREE harvested energy like ..small scale clsosed loop alcohol systems and grwoing our own food. We will do this and Quit FEeding the machine of dominion... we will quit playing their game and show otehers the world over. Noceras MIT open sourced catalyst is a prime example. .. . no more following existing reality.. new model only
@Thastorcyclone To share the Earth in cooperation for all generations to come, A MONEYLESS,CLASSLESS,STATELESS communities of humanity expressing our multitude of creative energies in harmony and wisdom, The current world socio-economic minority imposition is the negation and alienation of our common humanity Capitalism in corporate or state modality is the tyranical rule of RULING ELITE . The awakening is inevitable, the revolution a must
That's a little childish isn't it? Apparently, it's spiritually correct to ignore anything logic or science has to say about a given topic and claim your opponent is close minded.
Stillness is unavoidable. Do you actually think you think your thoughts? Self is non duality, or rather it's a something that has actual attributes beyond the vague poetic nonsense eastern philosophy produces.
Presence is always happening. It cannot psychologically be maintained longer than 3 seconds before it converts that information into memory or not store it at all.
There is actual scientific research going on in these areas you are talking about. It is not hidden. Want recommendations?
im relatively new to reading about krishnamurti and his books..my mum gave me the book "education and the significance of life" and commentaries on living...and i believe that he is one true teacher, i donot follow everything he says blindly but i look into my fears and my ego and prejudices and come to terms with them. btw..im 18 :) . more people should get to know themselves than run away from who they are...case and point,.my generation and peers..
Duality is conceptual, not actual. Concepts are derived FROM actual things. Actual things are constant and what you seem to be calling "awareness" (although that's not what I'd consider awareness).
Concepts aren't actual. They CAN be true, but not real because a proposition is conceptual. Your idea OF an apple is not an apple.
You can't believe what you want. Can you believe that you are made of macaroni and cheese? No, of course not. Saying that you believe something is totally optional.
That's why I try to phrase things in terms of what actually occurs rather than what I "believe".
I've done the spirituality game for years; evangalized duality as if the concept OF the thing were the thing itself. I didn't get that though hence my advocacy.
I'm familiar with the duality you describe and it's simply untrue. It's not supported by the facts at all, which is why I claimed K was a liar. Objective real reality is like totally a real thing.
"What does it matter weather fear is an idea or an emotion or a neurosis? What matters are the methods of combating it. ".....
I think it is a good question.....it seems to me that understanding the roots of a particular problem are key to finding it's solution....either way...I feel the dialogue is very good....thanks!
He is a good philosopher but not at the level of everyday happenings. His concepts are too difficult to apply at the everyday level. What does it matter weather fear is an idea or an emotion or a neurosis? What matters are the methods of combating it.
fear cannot be combatted.....or removed..... its an inherent aspect of individuality (or self-awareness) and a reavealing teacher....by asking what does it matter you're diverting and flinching from facing our fears....going INTO our fears....observing them without judgement.......USING fright and fear to elevate and expand consciousness
@reverenceforall ..Would you be kind enough to show me a method of combating fear? I know many people, who condition themselves through confronting a fear, like fear of heights , fear of water, and the list of fears goes on...Yet they are still fearful. Is it possible for the mind to be free from fear? Please don't answer...Observe fear in you. Can you fight against it? Haven't we created a society doing just this thing? Can you "intellectually" be rid of fear?
@saintjoe14 Some say that nothing really gets rid of the fear. You feel the fear, but you learn to go through with it anyways. The amount of courage you have determines the amount of fear you would be feeling prior to something. Courage comes from the higher self, and thoughts of confidence and positivity in ones self. Learning to control the mind through meditation, and strengthen the body through yoga or weight lifting is of great help in improving your strength, courage, and confidence.
@roberts29625 ....The fear I speak of is only the description of, and not the thing itself...You must be be quiet and still, with your own observations, in which you are not separate from fear...I maintain that you ARE correct...This fear I speak of IS in the imagination. It is the abstraction of real fear, which is of our innate security for one's survival and dislodgement of such into ideologies and so called beliefs. [ as far as you know?] Is just second hand thought. We BOTH like turtles
@saintjoe14 You don't fight it. You can never get rid of it by combating it.. K tells you to observe it in yourself, just observe with choiceless awareness and realize that fear is you and you are not separate from fear. By observing it, not judging, not condemning, it dissolves.
@JazzyKat2009 So we both see that there is never escape from the extraction of fear which is self imposed..........I maintain there is absolute truth in your comment.
However.....Is it possible for the observer , not judging, not naming, just being one with fear, not separate from it ever to be rid of fear?
The answer is no yes?
Think on this
Can you give me any account in your life where you have transcended from fear?
It's really good to see so many people interested in freeing their minds. I wish all of you the best of luck. Just the fact that we are watching this video means we are in some way connected.
Or even the fact that we exist means were connected. If i look at you, I should see myself, if I dont like the person that i look at, who is supposed to be me. This must mean I dont like myself. For us all to learn to love eachother we must first learn to love ourselves. Which we most of never seem to give enough time to.
I'm very sorry that this guy creates such a mystery about fear! This is way over intellectualized! Fear. Fear is simply a symptom of the realization that one will suffer a loss! That's it- simple! Why all this abstract complication over fear! This guy is making people unecessarily 'fearful' about fear! He's an imposter and should be called out and I'm doing so!! I call him out! You eliminate fear by confronting the cause of fear not by confronting fear itself!! So simple yet NOT mentioned!
But I think you miss his point. You say that "fear is simply a symptom of the realization that one will suffer a loss." But the deeper question is WHY you allow your mind to identify so deeply with something (your wife, husband, house, car, etc.). Why are your emotions and being so ingrained with these ideas? You built up this idea of yourself, this identification, this concept. You did it to yourself. Why? This is a rather deep and complex concept. Don't dismiss it so easily.
How is it that you are able to separate the 'cause of fear' from 'fear itself'? They are one in the same. avoiding fear only gives the fear you're avoiding more power. fear isn't eliminated so much as it is de-mystified...by paying attention to it....may not be comfortable at first, or ever...
@waboyto. In the case of your comment about not seperating fear from it's cause & that they are the same then one should not bother to make any distinction at all- everything is one. Okay? Then what's the point? That's a very convenient escape to all inquiry! "Everything is one." An apple, an orange, a car, a tree- they're all the same, they're one! Silly!!
@pishdad .......Let me premise,by saying that it is not of any significance who said this or that about the subject of fear. What seems to be of truth is we both see that fear exists in us. What is true also, is that neither of us should dismiss or accept the others observation of fear. That would be the end of seeking and the conduit to prejudice, would it not? [ conclusion?] So is the fear of confronting a tiger in the wild the same as the fear of losing a job, or the respect of friends?
You are absolutely correct. K does not ask anyone to accept him as an authority. He tells them to find out for themselves. So, I'm not sure what some people have a problem with. Astonishing, to say the least.
I feel bad for those people who make negative comments about K. If you don't agree with his teachings, don't listen to his videos or read his books.His only intention was freedom for humanity. Some people are so immature.
Not only that, but one should also point out that agreement and disagreement are ultimately irrelevant to the teachings of J.Krishnamurti. If one seriously poses the questions that K asks to oneself it is no longer "his teachings" but rather becomes an actual journey that we as individuals experience for ourselves.
You know why I put J Krishna above people like UG, Osho, Nithyananda, Eckhart, just to name a few. Personally his discourses and books are extremely difficult for me to understand process and evaluate. His works are challenging. Overall I need someone like that to challenge my beliefs.
This forum is riddled with conflict. Have we learned nothing? Are we not being serious enough? I ask these questions in the hopes that you will think and maybe see. To see the patterns, the routine you are engaging in: you attack me or something I look up too whether it be ideal, family, etc, then i will attack you in return. Do you not see?
Understand things as a whole. If you want something, go for it. If you want to be angry, then go for it and see what happens. That is the essence of real learning and understanding.
Absolutely! I believe that J krishna and Lao Tse are very close at heart. J Krishna and Lao Tse were pure thought humans in the most trying settings. But, we KNOW J Krishna is a real living person. Which is encouraging. It means there is hope out there for a better attitude. It's funny, when you don't let yourself be taken in by the beast of culture, you find these "teachings" become self-evident over time. As you grow as a person you discover these things on your own.
Well, NOT on my own, but, with the help of everyone and everything. Observe, process and digest everything all of the time. This will form who you are. AS time passes, who you are will dissolve into being. Just being here and now. You will find yourself free to honestly express yourself and what you believe. Which may be nothing. It may be something. What matters is you have experienced it.
Sounds like he is just an ordinary man. So.. Who really cares? People who are after the religious experience in order to say "Delmar I've been saved!!!"
this guy is the biggest fraud to spirituality if you want something that deals with vedic knowledge visit my channel not some cheap show bottle teaching.
you do not know the difference between a Bhramana and This Fraud Bhraman. Get your terms correct. the Bhramana has certain qualities like he speaks according to Vedic Scripture. Murti doesn't do either.
He is not drugged, not drunk. He is over 90 and soon to die of pancreatic cancer. How fast will you talk at 90? K tried to teach in words (choosing very carefully) what others spend years in meditation trying to understand - even then very few get the 'enlightenment' break through. K acknowledged that his words were not working any better than sustained hard meditation practice.
whoa ease up. Now what it is that makes you believe he is on drugs is suspect. If it is the length of time he utlilizes to formulate his responses, that is often merly the behaviour of someone thinking before they speak. He is thought-FULL. But just for the sake of arguement, how many drug addicts or drunkards are that insightful. These are rather obscure topics he is speaking of, and no matter how eloquent one is, words are still often an empedement to the conveyance of infomation because of
Businesslauchdates you're such an incorrigible cynic. If he was a fraud, the American Media would have made short work of him already - trust me on this chief. Not everyone is motivated by money like you. Of course, your handle says it all...now doesn't it.
Jiddu is indeed a fraud, but it likely has nothing to do with drugs. He knows nothing of fear or conditioning.
The media doesn't make frauds out everyone who deserves it, nor does it justly do so, every time they attempt to.
Jiddu isn't original at all, nor is he provocative. Like the people who share common ideas in his world he too is a fraud. Your condescending attitude and pretention piss me off.
Indeed, it is easy to dismiss someone as a fraud, because you don't want to give a second thought to your life, your condition or humanity. Just call them a fraud, call them unoriginal, call them greedy. Do you feel this way about the atheists and anti-theists who also make money from their trade? You are too young to understand your hypocrisy, I would have to venture.
I call a spade a spade. I feel that way about anybody who exhibits these traits. I'm not representing anything except myself.
Maybe I am too young. If I am wrong about something I want to know. Simply telling me I'm naive doesn't really help me.
So? What did I say that was hypocritical? What did I say that was incorrect?
Krishnamurti expresses ideas that enslave minds. Everything I've heard him say is about process, and one that never leads anywhere. The proof is in the pudding.
The hypocrisy I saw was the same condescending attitude that you were condemning, you were wielding as well. What I learn from him is: you should not live by what has been instilled by tradition, societal values, religion, etc. That you have to figure truth out for yourself, and trying to be something which you are not will ultimately create conflict. He is a philosopher, so he doesn't have the same concerns in life that we do in the 'real' world, but there is still worth in his ideas. No harm.
I don't think society etc is the best guide for how to live either. I'm glad you learned that?
Anyway, Jiddu has said things about what conflict is and how to avoid conflict that are total nonsense. There IS harm in that.
I hope I wasn't condescending. I was attempting to come off as offensive. I didn't criticize Jiddu of condescending either. What the hell are you talking about?
its is astonishing how people can be so close minded...One thing if anything I get from Krishnamurti is to find whatever we are looking for from within. A fraud will give you what you R looking for outside urself..illusions. Ignore these ppl on here...You have ascended to a place many find it hard to get to or understand. They rather someone create their world and answer all of their ?s instead of defining themselves and realizing the truth and answers R within. Stay enlighten.. Peace
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He pauses for such a long time it's boring. He's such an actor. He knows that it creates a little more curiosity. wanker ! He's just after money !!!!!!!!!!!
what does he say right at the end of the clip... i cant make it out? Divisive factor... divisive factor.... listening to this takes great concentration.... love it :-)
when i smoke weed i talk lie this guy. he is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stoned
i bet this guy smoked soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much weed
Most people can't even spend thirty minutes alone sitting quietly somewhere, so it's highly unlikely they could muster the passion and focus to go into the issues that K. discusses for themselves. His was a mind of the utmost clarity and insight. Check out "Freedom from the Known."
I think people should accuse, it is a discussion after all, and we have ideas that we need help with. I think K was a good with philosophy, and concentration, but sometimes he doesn't give adivse that can be useful, its OK if we are focused all ready, but those that aren't can't understand him. He talks about fear in this video, but he isn't simple at all - from my view - I understand what he is saying, but all those words are not decisive enough, I think he would agree too,
I cannot agree that K complicates. He sometimes examines the different aspects of an idea or principle but that is not the same as complicating. To complicate is to impose. To break something down is to clarify!
Saying 'fear is a human emotion, simple as that' tells us nothing about what is actually happening and whether fear really HAS to be such a great part of our life experience.
Like most, I have experienced much fear in my life but have also enjoyed times of deep personal freedom in which fear is entirely absent. It is when in the latter state that I have experienced life in all its glory - a spontanaeity, joy and creativity that cannot properly manifest when obscured by the noise of fear.
I would add that fear should surely not be seen as an enemy but actually deeply accepted at the time it occurs. From that more accepting state, fear may be better examined. When it is seen clearly then it will tend to disolve naturally...
Yes, I agree, I think he wrong about when he says mystics are coming over to make money - they have no need for money, but without it they couldnt help so many. Money means nothing to these people, but by K judging them he has limited himself to only a few people...compare this to maharishi mahesh yogi ....
JK speaks on a level not every tom dick and harry can understand or even attempt to comprehend. I feel sorry for them red neck jerks, stick to ur trailors and beers...
The thing about Krishna is, that he simply had a very easy life. He never had to worry about food. He never had to worry about alot of things.
It was his luck that he was picked to be something at such a young age.(even if he refused to lead)
He always claims that he does not want to lead. And yet he is writing books, is he not. Knowing that people are going to read them, trying to find something of a solution in them.
i would say K's use of language is idiosyncratic and incomplete at times but it is well worth becoming familiar with how he uses language, as what he is getting at is profound and life changing if actually applied.
if his message is so unclear hes not going to reach too many people.THere are many things that are life changing if applied,applyiing them is where 99% of people mess up.People dont have the necessary motivation/discipline to change behaviour.
On the matter of clarity, I believe K was very sensitive to the many layers of the subjects about which he spoke,so was not inclined to make the simplistic and easy to grasp 'statements of truth' that are to be found in so much self-help literature presently.
This being so, his teaching requires study to understand properly and once understood it must be tested, explored and improved on using one's own experience of course!
Also, given his opinion on giving explanations, I imagine he spent a good bit of time choosing his words carefully. We all know word choice has a huge impact on the listener (and on the speaker as well!). When we say "I am ..." we interpret it quite literally, but if we were to avoid saying it we'd end up talking in circles too ; )
Actually, you're off the mark. He wasn't one of those charlatans who asked for money in exchange for the "truth" (TV evangelists, Indian gurus, new age imposters, infomercial Tony Robbins types). He spent his whole life discussing these topics, expanding them, and rethinking them.
The difference btwn real and imagined fear. Why do we take the actual fear and turn it into an abstraction? Why do we deal with abstractions? We are caught in ideation and we create ideologies. Ideas/ideals separate human beings and creates conflict.
I don't know how to do this... For moments I find serenity but daily worries take me away from this. I'm so stressed and fearful....deadlines, exams, loneliness...etc
xtrmsprts 3 months ago
@xtrmsprts meditate :)
bminnemann 3 months ago
We are conditioned this way... interesting that he talks about "ideas" being the problem and does not acknowledge the fact that we are conditioned to be this way.
fearlessway 3 months ago
i am scratching my nuts... and this feels good to knish.
BigOldMrKnish 6 months ago
Bonjour à toutes et tous!
Si quelqu'un(e), pouvait traduire...sous-titrer...en Français, d'avance, deux milliards et demi de mercis!!! :)
Très cordialement à vous tous
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humblevoyageur3F3 7 months ago
@humblevoyageur3F3
Boujour, Je peux parler francais un peu. Si vous pouviez me donner un peu de l'argent (pas beaucoup), je pouvais essayer le traduire pour vous. :)
annpetasupporter 5 months ago
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"the revelation of the genius" is excellent book on elightenment,
I have read it, well the language is little wierd though...
TheIgorthebest 8 months ago
This man was very smart.
boomadatigger 9 months ago
If every human listened to the simple wisdom of his or her OWN HEART...instead of fighting against themselves and FORCING themselves to conform to certain ideas and notions...then order, peace and harmony would prevail. Some quotes to back this up...Ramana Maharshi: 'all effort is the bondage'...Lao Tzu: 'give up striving and all will be in order'...Much love fellow humans...much love...xxx
MrAshToast 9 months ago 2
@MrAshToast if you listen to K, you ARE listening to yourself, call it your heart if you want but your still just listening to you.
AbattoirDream 9 months ago
i cant believe there is actually a dislike
sjdamier 10 months ago
@sjdamier It must have been one of Osho´s disciples ...lol
tchiritchou 8 months ago
To seek the truth, go to google and type in Truth Contest, and click on the first result. Read The Present on the first page. If you can write a better entry, please let us know.
DemianHermann 10 months ago
Thanks for video gays.
MyRavand 10 months ago
Instead of trying to change the world, which I am probably trying to do right now, change yourself first.. The power to change the world comes from and starts with changing yourself, and you'll know it when you feel it. The world will follow naturally. The signs that you are wrong are everywhere so don't go kidding yourself. Signs like getting angry but then saying damn criminals, so angry more than me, my anger is only little. Conquer this first, naturally the world will see.
EveryTongueShallTell 11 months ago 2
The desire to project unity under "a common purpose" is obviously another form of darkness, and not something that possesses any true inherent reality. The need for human beings to have clean drinking water, food, adequate shelter and clothing is an entirely different matter. When these basic human necessities are denied to sectors of the human population, war arises.
tHeSQuARer00toF2 1 year ago
The green revolution must obviously signify the end of global capitalism and the beggining of radical, local particularism and green democracy. Technological development will enable the continuation of the intergrating of the world's people.
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The green revolution of course, is the end of capitalism, end the beggining of radical local particularism and green democracy; the desire to project unity is itself darkness. Isn't that obvious?
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The green revolution of course, is the end of capitalism, and the beggining of radical local particularism and green democracy; the desire to project unity is itself darkness. Isn't that obvious?
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The green revolution of course, is the end of capitalism, and the beggining of radical local particularism and green democracy; the desire to project unity is itself darkness. Isn't that obvious?
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tHeSQuARer00toF2 1 year ago
If we wreck the earth now, fighting for resources, stockpiling resources as a means of retribution and as a mechanism for creating power then all future generations of humanity are going to have a diminished existence, whether they call themselves Chinese, Indian, Russian, Brazilian, or American. And that is not fair for anyone. We should be thinking about the grandchildren of our grandchildren- obviously the only serious attempt at peace must be a green revolution.
tHeSQuARer00toF2 1 year ago
There is simply no other way forward than to learn from the mistakes of the past and to chose not to repeat them. This includes the choice that we have now; to not prepare for war, to not prepare to fight other human beings to be take as much of the earth's resources now as a means of retribution for past injustices, because the truth of the universe as we know it is that the arrow of time flows in one direction only.
tHeSQuARer00toF2 1 year ago
I agree with you Arzoyan, difficult times lie ahead. Fear and mistrust could lead to war which would be the end of that possibility, and the chance may not arise again for another 1000 years, possibly even far longer. The time for honesty is now, and we need to build bridges of trust to work out time frames for the colonising societies to be able to repay their debts to the earth without inciting fear and hatred and punishing them unnecessarily due to a retrospective propaganda of history.
tHeSQuARer00toF2 1 year ago
It would be very nice if I could understand what he is saying... His accent is killing me.
Muldervayne 1 year ago
@Muldervayne
there is nothing in accent..this guy is a real stuff...
nishadmm1 1 year ago
@nishadmm1
I am not saying he is faking or anything, it's just that it would be great if I could understand his words :)
Muldervayne 1 year ago
@Muldervayne I'm spanish, and I can understand him perfectly, I wonder why you can't.
simonazzi11 1 year ago
@simonazzi11
I don't know. I am not used to that accent.
Muldervayne 1 year ago
I just read what I wrote then and I wouldn't write that now. I wish everyone the best of luck and I hope you can allow the light of love to come into your heart - from your heart.
Megabagne 1 year ago
When was this video ? In the 70's ?
BarryCroucher 1 year ago
@moeantaki "...what is sad is that only 47,878 people got the message ... which means we live in a very diseased society..." Yes, only 48k views. Measured against viral videos, depressingly small. But how do you account for the fact that never in the history of the world have so many inquiring people, 48k, gathered in one place (even if a comments thread)? Has that happened before? Interested, curious people looking into something so basic to experience, fear?. That's gotta mean something. ;).
bodhidharma999 1 year ago 2
i think Krishnamurti was confused about the word LOVE
nasafakedit 1 year ago
I am from Ojai California, the most spiritual place on Earth. When I lived there I spent alot of time in Matilija Canyon, feeling the presence of Krishnamurti there.
I was going through some books at a used book store in Ojai, Barts Books, and found an old paperback about the life of Krishnamurti.
It was the hardest book I ever read,The life that was chosen for him to live. He gave it all up to be where I was at the time. Ohhhh, how I miss that " Nest", Ojai California!!!
moniacann 1 year ago
WHAT AN AMAZING MIND!!
LAjimmy323 1 year ago
@LAjimmy323 Vroom<3
MrMaxRever 1 year ago
look at the views..and its good see.. love is
parisfaith 1 year ago
Last time i watched this video ,it has hit 47,878 views what is sad is that only 47,878 people got the message that is if all got the message ,now realize how many people didn't get the message which means we live in a very diseased society where thinking and understanding have not become important anymore and conditioning became a must in order to survive .humanity loves being controlled and freedom is lost, What A Shame!
moeantaki 1 year ago
physiologically we are programed to detect danger and this has kept our species going. We need fear to stay alive. Psychologically I think we have fear whenever we get attached to something or someone and we fear the loss. Given our being socialized and domesticated in this society dealing with fear begins with awareness, being patient with the self, and practicing letting go.
bjm1028 1 year ago 2
i like turtles
roberts29625 1 year ago
@roberts29625 lefty loosey, righty crumpet....take et to da BANK!
jonshultz 1 year ago
Capitalism the wage slavery of immense humanity in a politically manipulated market mechanism of artificial scarcity to impose poverty and exploitation in the interest of the ruling class. A system of commodity production for profit perpetuating fear,insecurity,war,enviornmental destructions,animal cruelty of industrial scale. We need to reclaim our Lives/Earth for a world of cooperation for our common needs and well being in enlightenment and wisdom with the Universe.
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@arzoyan Agreed! But, despite the violence, hunger, division in the world, people don't change. And, if as a individual, you manage to see 'truth' - how long before this society destroys you. Sucks you back into its competitiveness, violence? How does the light stay on when your sitting on a hot stove?
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@arzoyan
you're doing it wrong. Way to entirely corrupt K's apolitical message of individual transformation with your marxist claptrap.
ThatFuckingGuy207 1 year ago
@arzoyan Capitalism is not the problem. In a truly free society consenting adults would be able to freely trade with one another.
The problem is corporatism. Which is created through powers granted from the government. In essence, I hope to shine light on the ideas of voluntaryism.
In love and liberty,
Steve
OhMyGoog 1 year ago
@OhMyGoog Capitalism is the compulsion of workers to sell themselves for survival, over 3 billion workers are on 2 dolllar a day, thats not consenting or in your illusiory world they are ? Capitalism is organised violence to dominate all for a few.
arzoyan 1 year ago
@arzoyan you wrote that comment 8 months ago. Are you still so biased?
pcb222 1 year ago
@arzoyan absolutely. I have much to learn, but here in mInnesota I am hoping to live an teach a new way to live. Intentionally.. .intergenerationally... using FREE harvested energy like ..small scale clsosed loop alcohol systems and grwoing our own food. We will do this and Quit FEeding the machine of dominion... we will quit playing their game and show otehers the world over. Noceras MIT open sourced catalyst is a prime example. .. . no more following existing reality.. new model only
TheBerserker50 10 months ago
@arzoyan You mean Socialism/Communism, right? Otherwise: FAIL!
It's called projection and confirmation bias. best way to solve this is to educate yourself
rgs11 9 months ago
@rgs11 You too sir.
NthreeE 8 months ago
@arzoyan
capitalism is worst of the working systems, sorry.
Thastorcyclone 3 months ago
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@Thastorcyclone To share the Earth in cooperation for all generations to come, A MONEYLESS,CLASSLESS,STATELESS communities of humanity expressing our multitude of creative energies in harmony and wisdom, The current world socio-economic minority imposition is the negation and alienation of our common humanity Capitalism in corporate or state modality is the tyranical rule of RULING ELITE . The awakening is inevitable, the revolution a must
arzoyan 3 months ago
the lessons are eternal
amhot19 1 year ago
That's a little childish isn't it? Apparently, it's spiritually correct to ignore anything logic or science has to say about a given topic and claim your opponent is close minded.
blapperz 1 year ago
Stillness is unavoidable. Do you actually think you think your thoughts? Self is non duality, or rather it's a something that has actual attributes beyond the vague poetic nonsense eastern philosophy produces.
Presence is always happening. It cannot psychologically be maintained longer than 3 seconds before it converts that information into memory or not store it at all.
There is actual scientific research going on in these areas you are talking about. It is not hidden. Want recommendations?
blapperz 1 year ago
goes nicely with the "my i you conspiracy" movie on here.
as in my products like myspace, myfm, i as in iproducts
djnero78 1 year ago
im relatively new to reading about krishnamurti and his books..my mum gave me the book "education and the significance of life" and commentaries on living...and i believe that he is one true teacher, i donot follow everything he says blindly but i look into my fears and my ego and prejudices and come to terms with them. btw..im 18 :) . more people should get to know themselves than run away from who they are...case and point,.my generation and peers..
BoxingRookie 1 year ago
Duality is conceptual, not actual. Concepts are derived FROM actual things. Actual things are constant and what you seem to be calling "awareness" (although that's not what I'd consider awareness).
Concepts aren't actual. They CAN be true, but not real because a proposition is conceptual. Your idea OF an apple is not an apple.
blapperz 1 year ago
@bud
I am partly my habits, opinions and the like, yes. So what?
blapperz 1 year ago
@bud
You can't believe what you want. Can you believe that you are made of macaroni and cheese? No, of course not. Saying that you believe something is totally optional.
That's why I try to phrase things in terms of what actually occurs rather than what I "believe".
I've done the spirituality game for years; evangalized duality as if the concept OF the thing were the thing itself. I didn't get that though hence my advocacy.
blapperz 1 year ago
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"To see it,as it happens,moment to moment,to be aware of it totally,now,is the end of it."
No fear is a valid worthwhile emotion that has a lot of intelligence in it. Avoiding it is the application you say isn't.
"Fear is the cause of our escapes into illusion."
- Qualifying your emotions into contradiction land is illusion
"There is no application,just awarness! "
- So what's not awareness? Is non application awareness?
blapperz 1 year ago
@bud
I'm familiar with the duality you describe and it's simply untrue. It's not supported by the facts at all, which is why I claimed K was a liar. Objective real reality is like totally a real thing.
blapperz 1 year ago
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"What does it matter weather fear is an idea or an emotion or a neurosis? What matters are the methods of combating it. ".....
I think it is a good question.....it seems to me that understanding the roots of a particular problem are key to finding it's solution....either way...I feel the dialogue is very good....thanks!
orionclock 1 year ago
He is a good philosopher but not at the level of everyday happenings. His concepts are too difficult to apply at the everyday level. What does it matter weather fear is an idea or an emotion or a neurosis? What matters are the methods of combating it.
reverenceforall 2 years ago
fear cannot be combatted.....or removed..... its an inherent aspect of individuality (or self-awareness) and a reavealing teacher....by asking what does it matter you're diverting and flinching from facing our fears....going INTO our fears....observing them without judgement.......USING fright and fear to elevate and expand consciousness
waboyto 1 year ago
So does 'going into your fears' may them go away?
reverenceforall 1 year ago
@reverenceforall ..Would you be kind enough to show me a method of combating fear? I know many people, who condition themselves through confronting a fear, like fear of heights , fear of water, and the list of fears goes on...Yet they are still fearful. Is it possible for the mind to be free from fear? Please don't answer...Observe fear in you. Can you fight against it? Haven't we created a society doing just this thing? Can you "intellectually" be rid of fear?
saintjoe14 1 year ago
@saintjoe14 Some say that nothing really gets rid of the fear. You feel the fear, but you learn to go through with it anyways. The amount of courage you have determines the amount of fear you would be feeling prior to something. Courage comes from the higher self, and thoughts of confidence and positivity in ones self. Learning to control the mind through meditation, and strengthen the body through yoga or weight lifting is of great help in improving your strength, courage, and confidence.
DonnyDaison 1 year ago
@saintjoe14
What is this fear you speak of. It must be in the imagination, because there is no such thing....as far as I know.
roberts29625 1 year ago
@roberts29625 ....The fear I speak of is only the description of, and not the thing itself...You must be be quiet and still, with your own observations, in which you are not separate from fear...I maintain that you ARE correct...This fear I speak of IS in the imagination. It is the abstraction of real fear, which is of our innate security for one's survival and dislodgement of such into ideologies and so called beliefs. [ as far as you know?] Is just second hand thought. We BOTH like turtles
saintjoe14 1 year ago
@saintjoe14 You don't fight it. You can never get rid of it by combating it.. K tells you to observe it in yourself, just observe with choiceless awareness and realize that fear is you and you are not separate from fear. By observing it, not judging, not condemning, it dissolves.
JazzyKat2009 1 year ago
@JazzyKat2009 So we both see that there is never escape from the extraction of fear which is self imposed..........I maintain there is absolute truth in your comment.
However.....Is it possible for the observer , not judging, not naming, just being one with fear, not separate from it ever to be rid of fear?
The answer is no yes?
Think on this
Can you give me any account in your life where you have transcended from fear?
saintjoe14 1 year ago
It's really good to see so many people interested in freeing their minds. I wish all of you the best of luck. Just the fact that we are watching this video means we are in some way connected.
Megabagne 2 years ago 172
@Megabagne you are them
perhappenstance 1 year ago
Or even the fact that we exist means were connected. If i look at you, I should see myself, if I dont like the person that i look at, who is supposed to be me. This must mean I dont like myself. For us all to learn to love eachother we must first learn to love ourselves. Which we most of never seem to give enough time to.
ThirdEye1989 1 year ago 4
@ThirdEye1989 in the same way we are also connected to animals and even insects and just look at the way we treat them, its pathetic.
nasafakedit 1 year ago
@Megabagne not really.
SuperBlackMoth 1 year ago
@Megabagne we need to free ourselves from the mind.
we are connected throught he collective subconscious mind.
We need to free ourselves from that as well because it is our slavery.
MartijndeGraaf1001 1 year ago
@Megabagne
It is freeing from the mind, not freeing the mind, that is mistake that Jidu is talking about here, and most of the time in his speeches.
ivanns021 1 year ago
@Megabagne ...that was beautifully said
Tripl3333 7 months ago
I'm very sorry that this guy creates such a mystery about fear! This is way over intellectualized! Fear. Fear is simply a symptom of the realization that one will suffer a loss! That's it- simple! Why all this abstract complication over fear! This guy is making people unecessarily 'fearful' about fear! He's an imposter and should be called out and I'm doing so!! I call him out! You eliminate fear by confronting the cause of fear not by confronting fear itself!! So simple yet NOT mentioned!
pishdad 2 years ago
But I think you miss his point. You say that "fear is simply a symptom of the realization that one will suffer a loss." But the deeper question is WHY you allow your mind to identify so deeply with something (your wife, husband, house, car, etc.). Why are your emotions and being so ingrained with these ideas? You built up this idea of yourself, this identification, this concept. You did it to yourself. Why? This is a rather deep and complex concept. Don't dismiss it so easily.
koreankayagum 2 years ago 2
How is it that you are able to separate the 'cause of fear' from 'fear itself'? They are one in the same. avoiding fear only gives the fear you're avoiding more power. fear isn't eliminated so much as it is de-mystified...by paying attention to it....may not be comfortable at first, or ever...
waboyto 1 year ago
@waboyto. In the case of your comment about not seperating fear from it's cause & that they are the same then one should not bother to make any distinction at all- everything is one. Okay? Then what's the point? That's a very convenient escape to all inquiry! "Everything is one." An apple, an orange, a car, a tree- they're all the same, they're one! Silly!!
pishdad 1 year ago
@pishdad .......Let me premise,by saying that it is not of any significance who said this or that about the subject of fear. What seems to be of truth is we both see that fear exists in us. What is true also, is that neither of us should dismiss or accept the others observation of fear. That would be the end of seeking and the conduit to prejudice, would it not? [ conclusion?] So is the fear of confronting a tiger in the wild the same as the fear of losing a job, or the respect of friends?
saintjoe14 1 year ago
I'm afraid of Krishnamurti
ParadoxapocalypSatan 2 years ago
haha if you're 'ParadoxapocalpSatan' then you should be, lol
mavishill 1 year ago
You are absolutely correct. K does not ask anyone to accept him as an authority. He tells them to find out for themselves. So, I'm not sure what some people have a problem with. Astonishing, to say the least.
JazzyKat2009 2 years ago 2
I feel bad for those people who make negative comments about K. If you don't agree with his teachings, don't listen to his videos or read his books.His only intention was freedom for humanity. Some people are so immature.
JazzyKat2009 2 years ago 10
Not only that, but one should also point out that agreement and disagreement are ultimately irrelevant to the teachings of J.Krishnamurti. If one seriously poses the questions that K asks to oneself it is no longer "his teachings" but rather becomes an actual journey that we as individuals experience for ourselves.
1mind1humanity 2 years ago 3
I learned very much from Kiranji too
caviper1 2 years ago 5
K was, is and continue to be a great teacher.
bagoona 2 years ago 5
You know why I put J Krishna above people like UG, Osho, Nithyananda, Eckhart, just to name a few. Personally his discourses and books are extremely difficult for me to understand process and evaluate. His works are challenging. Overall I need someone like that to challenge my beliefs.
darintaylor79 2 years ago 7
I started with the list of people who you have listed and now trying to understand this GREAT MIND. K has removed religion and nationalism in me
vick217 2 years ago 7
This forum is riddled with conflict. Have we learned nothing? Are we not being serious enough? I ask these questions in the hopes that you will think and maybe see. To see the patterns, the routine you are engaging in: you attack me or something I look up too whether it be ideal, family, etc, then i will attack you in return. Do you not see?
boomadatigger 2 years ago
Understand things as a whole. If you want something, go for it. If you want to be angry, then go for it and see what happens. That is the essence of real learning and understanding.
Logtouchin 2 years ago 2
Absolutely! I believe that J krishna and Lao Tse are very close at heart. J Krishna and Lao Tse were pure thought humans in the most trying settings. But, we KNOW J Krishna is a real living person. Which is encouraging. It means there is hope out there for a better attitude. It's funny, when you don't let yourself be taken in by the beast of culture, you find these "teachings" become self-evident over time. As you grow as a person you discover these things on your own.
Kostly 2 years ago 6
Well, NOT on my own, but, with the help of everyone and everything. Observe, process and digest everything all of the time. This will form who you are. AS time passes, who you are will dissolve into being. Just being here and now. You will find yourself free to honestly express yourself and what you believe. Which may be nothing. It may be something. What matters is you have experienced it.
Kostly 2 years ago 2
Sounds like he is just an ordinary man. So.. Who really cares? People who are after the religious experience in order to say "Delmar I've been saved!!!"
Filmable101 2 years ago
if you really pay attention to his teachings you will see at the end of it, there is no "I" who is saved.
Sexasaurous 2 years ago 2
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this guy is the biggest fraud to spirituality if you want something that deals with vedic knowledge visit my channel not some cheap show bottle teaching.
TheVedicStudent 2 years ago
Of course you want to call him a spiritual fraud, because you are trying to peddle your own answers. Sounds like projection to me.
Zeromus7 2 years ago
Fraud? Well His name says it all LOL. He is a fraud.
TheVedicStudent 2 years ago
What the hell does that mean? Nonsense...
Zeromus7 2 years ago
whl are calling a fraud?
xXBlackxRebelXx 2 years ago
you do not know the difference between a Bhramana and This Fraud Bhraman. Get your terms correct. the Bhramana has certain qualities like he speaks according to Vedic Scripture. Murti doesn't do either.
TheVedicStudent 2 years ago
He is not drugged, not drunk. He is over 90 and soon to die of pancreatic cancer. How fast will you talk at 90? K tried to teach in words (choosing very carefully) what others spend years in meditation trying to understand - even then very few get the 'enlightenment' break through. K acknowledged that his words were not working any better than sustained hard meditation practice.
IJnet 2 years ago
whoa ease up. Now what it is that makes you believe he is on drugs is suspect. If it is the length of time he utlilizes to formulate his responses, that is often merly the behaviour of someone thinking before they speak. He is thought-FULL. But just for the sake of arguement, how many drug addicts or drunkards are that insightful. These are rather obscure topics he is speaking of, and no matter how eloquent one is, words are still often an empedement to the conveyance of infomation because of
bootyman234 2 years ago
FAILURE TROLL IS A FAILURE
jubulalau 2 years ago
Businesslauchdates you're such an incorrigible cynic. If he was a fraud, the American Media would have made short work of him already - trust me on this chief. Not everyone is motivated by money like you. Of course, your handle says it all...now doesn't it.
theleftflank 2 years ago
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@theleftflank
Jiddu is indeed a fraud, but it likely has nothing to do with drugs. He knows nothing of fear or conditioning.
The media doesn't make frauds out everyone who deserves it, nor does it justly do so, every time they attempt to.
Jiddu isn't original at all, nor is he provocative. Like the people who share common ideas in his world he too is a fraud. Your condescending attitude and pretention piss me off.
Jiddu made some good money
blapperz 2 years ago
Indeed, it is easy to dismiss someone as a fraud, because you don't want to give a second thought to your life, your condition or humanity. Just call them a fraud, call them unoriginal, call them greedy. Do you feel this way about the atheists and anti-theists who also make money from their trade? You are too young to understand your hypocrisy, I would have to venture.
Zeromus7 2 years ago
I call a spade a spade. I feel that way about anybody who exhibits these traits. I'm not representing anything except myself.
Maybe I am too young. If I am wrong about something I want to know. Simply telling me I'm naive doesn't really help me.
So? What did I say that was hypocritical? What did I say that was incorrect?
Krishnamurti expresses ideas that enslave minds. Everything I've heard him say is about process, and one that never leads anywhere. The proof is in the pudding.
blapperz 2 years ago
The hypocrisy I saw was the same condescending attitude that you were condemning, you were wielding as well. What I learn from him is: you should not live by what has been instilled by tradition, societal values, religion, etc. That you have to figure truth out for yourself, and trying to be something which you are not will ultimately create conflict. He is a philosopher, so he doesn't have the same concerns in life that we do in the 'real' world, but there is still worth in his ideas. No harm.
Zeromus7 2 years ago
I don't think society etc is the best guide for how to live either. I'm glad you learned that?
Anyway, Jiddu has said things about what conflict is and how to avoid conflict that are total nonsense. There IS harm in that.
I hope I wasn't condescending. I was attempting to come off as offensive. I didn't criticize Jiddu of condescending either. What the hell are you talking about?
blapperz 2 years ago
Please don't call him a philosopher.
boomadatigger 2 years ago
its is astonishing how people can be so close minded...One thing if anything I get from Krishnamurti is to find whatever we are looking for from within. A fraud will give you what you R looking for outside urself..illusions. Ignore these ppl on here...You have ascended to a place many find it hard to get to or understand. They rather someone create their world and answer all of their ?s instead of defining themselves and realizing the truth and answers R within. Stay enlighten.. Peace
GodivaKitty 2 years ago
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He pauses for such a long time it's boring. He's such an actor. He knows that it creates a little more curiosity. wanker ! He's just after money !!!!!!!!!!!
businesslaunchdates 2 years ago
he thinks before he talks... you should try it some time.
and krishnamurti could care less about money
TheGreatTranscender 2 years ago 3
Watch many of his talks, and think about carefully. Then go back and re-read your comment three times over.
Neanderthalcouzin 2 years ago
what does he say right at the end of the clip... i cant make it out? Divisive factor... divisive factor.... listening to this takes great concentration.... love it :-)
slightlymooshed 2 years ago
He says that 'the idea is a divisive factor...".
nativemath 2 years ago
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zoomflesh 2 years ago
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i bet this guy smoked soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much weed
zoomflesh 2 years ago
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seriously LOL
grimmmammoth 2 years ago
be here, be now. I AM :)
Atmaniceland 2 years ago 3
Most people can't even spend thirty minutes alone sitting quietly somewhere, so it's highly unlikely they could muster the passion and focus to go into the issues that K. discusses for themselves. His was a mind of the utmost clarity and insight. Check out "Freedom from the Known."
koreankayagum 2 years ago 2
Please do not defend or do not accuse J.K, Do not accept or deny any of his words but allow it and hear it without judgment.
Love
iYoga 2 years ago 8
I think people should accuse, it is a discussion after all, and we have ideas that we need help with. I think K was a good with philosophy, and concentration, but sometimes he doesn't give adivse that can be useful, its OK if we are focused all ready, but those that aren't can't understand him. He talks about fear in this video, but he isn't simple at all - from my view - I understand what he is saying, but all those words are not decisive enough, I think he would agree too,
scottrobb1982 2 years ago
i know what you mean. he's alot easier to read than listen 2.
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scottrobb1982 2 years ago
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J.Krishnamurti is a jackass who complicate shit too much!
Fear is a human emotion, simple as that!
Fear and pleasure must co-exist for human to experience LIFE.
iRebellionz 2 years ago
He's talking about egoic fear. I'm sure there is also a real type of fear, a conscious one.
blitzkrieg19031 2 years ago
I cannot agree that K complicates. He sometimes examines the different aspects of an idea or principle but that is not the same as complicating. To complicate is to impose. To break something down is to clarify!
cosmicjazzer 2 years ago
Saying 'fear is a human emotion, simple as that' tells us nothing about what is actually happening and whether fear really HAS to be such a great part of our life experience.
Like most, I have experienced much fear in my life but have also enjoyed times of deep personal freedom in which fear is entirely absent. It is when in the latter state that I have experienced life in all its glory - a spontanaeity, joy and creativity that cannot properly manifest when obscured by the noise of fear.
cosmicjazzer 2 years ago
I would add that fear should surely not be seen as an enemy but actually deeply accepted at the time it occurs. From that more accepting state, fear may be better examined. When it is seen clearly then it will tend to disolve naturally...
cosmicjazzer 2 years ago
Do you hear what are you saying?
You dont know enything about life and yourself as human !
Just read my friend,thats the only thing that can save you!
foodonja 2 years ago
I know enough, and I know that J.Krishnamurti like to complicate things more than necessary.
iRebellionz 2 years ago
Yes, I agree, I think he wrong about when he says mystics are coming over to make money - they have no need for money, but without it they couldnt help so many. Money means nothing to these people, but by K judging them he has limited himself to only a few people...compare this to maharishi mahesh yogi ....
scottrobb1982 2 years ago
JK speaks on a level not every tom dick and harry can understand or even attempt to comprehend. I feel sorry for them red neck jerks, stick to ur trailors and beers...
amrahs001 2 years ago
especially that dick who spoke before you!! lol
smoothie798 2 years ago
Guys nobody is trying to take away your insecurity you can keep it its yours to create and to hold onto if that is what you choose. Relax
hellospider 2 years ago
And if you get raped, is there fear?
The thing about Krishna is, that he simply had a very easy life. He never had to worry about food. He never had to worry about alot of things.
It was his luck that he was picked to be something at such a young age.(even if he refused to lead)
He always claims that he does not want to lead. And yet he is writing books, is he not. Knowing that people are going to read them, trying to find something of a solution in them.
The wordcount is making me e
hellredfight100 2 years ago
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mother of fuck,this clown cant even speak english
billysue2 2 years ago
i would say K's use of language is idiosyncratic and incomplete at times but it is well worth becoming familiar with how he uses language, as what he is getting at is profound and life changing if actually applied.
cosmicjazzer 2 years ago
if his message is so unclear hes not going to reach too many people.THere are many things that are life changing if applied,applyiing them is where 99% of people mess up.People dont have the necessary motivation/discipline to change behaviour.
billysue2 2 years ago
Yes I agree that application is the thing!
On the matter of clarity, I believe K was very sensitive to the many layers of the subjects about which he spoke,so was not inclined to make the simplistic and easy to grasp 'statements of truth' that are to be found in so much self-help literature presently.
This being so, his teaching requires study to understand properly and once understood it must be tested, explored and improved on using one's own experience of course!
cosmicjazzer 2 years ago
I don't get what there is to apply, there is no teaching.
blitzkrieg19031 2 years ago
Also, given his opinion on giving explanations, I imagine he spent a good bit of time choosing his words carefully. We all know word choice has a huge impact on the listener (and on the speaker as well!). When we say "I am ..." we interpret it quite literally, but if we were to avoid saying it we'd end up talking in circles too ; )
ludicrousduality 2 years ago
The prim,ary text of this is You.
coldtoke 2 years ago
GEeeeeeeeeeeeeee how come he wond beg to know me
coldtoke 2 years ago
This Guy sure doesnt rest.
coldtoke 2 years ago
Your growth is dependant on the exponential expedency of your own self worth
coldtoke 2 years ago
If you cant see how Phoney this guy is then I feel sorry for you ......... get a life of your own
coldtoke 2 years ago
Actually, you're off the mark. He wasn't one of those charlatans who asked for money in exchange for the "truth" (TV evangelists, Indian gurus, new age imposters, infomercial Tony Robbins types). He spent his whole life discussing these topics, expanding them, and rethinking them.
koreankayagum 2 years ago 5
Oh WOW How Profound lol lol lol
coldtoke 2 years ago
"At this 'instant' there is no fear"
from a timless mind!!!!!!!! great insight
lloyd197500 2 years ago 2
holyyyyyyyyy cow,......... this guy is amazing,... hez of the calibre of osho,... or shud i say osho is of his calibre....
amazinggggggg
sadhu1987sadhu 3 years ago 2
K always makes me see things in this way,he delivered me from confusion and despair years ago,thanks k
hjyu586758675867 3 years ago
False Expectations Appearing Real.
im4wur 3 years ago 3
He looks like one of the Thunderbirds
LoveKandR 3 years ago 4
HAHAHAHA im sorry but i loled at that. I love K tho. For I am him and he is me! lawl
Chris27tuh 2 years ago
The difference btwn real and imagined fear. Why do we take the actual fear and turn it into an abstraction? Why do we deal with abstractions? We are caught in ideation and we create ideologies. Ideas/ideals separate human beings and creates conflict.
meghan42 3 years ago
at first I thought he was a bit senile but then I realized he just thought things through very well!
He's genius!
hpinc110 3 years ago 5
Have you seen his other videos? I'm going to pursue the world he imagines.
Naerbu 3 years ago
any mental activity is part of mental time~~~is the process of "becoming"" something~~~that cause fear...
premsoma 3 years ago
Great video
Knowledge is gold
silversobe 3 years ago 5
Great Video, Exploration of fear. Many Thanks!
seastarwatcher 4 years ago 12