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  • ruled out because its dull and not sharp ohh were sorry we didn't sharpen it for you for the last two thousand years wow who hired that guy to make such a judgment remember you idiots its been two thousand years already of course it be dull and not sharp and worn out maybe there should be some test be done instead of just looking at and disclaiming it because it doesn't look cool enough to be a lance.

  • " Knights Templar THE TEMPLAR knights are knighted as all LAST OF EUROPEAN KNIGHT or KNIGHTS know..."

  • " Knights Templar THE TEMPLAR knights ere knighted as all LAST OF EUROPEAN KNIGHT or KNIGHTS know..."

  • Debates and fights, what is the point, in the end nobody wins, religious debates are always fruitless.NOBODY CAN PROVE NOTHING.These debates only produces broken beliefs and hatred for the members of other religions.

  • There is no proof the crufixicion happend in the first place.

  • lets be real this is a very sick world we all need help god have mercy!!!!!!1 blood!!!! one god!!!!

  • first off this is some sick shit they worship the murder weapon that killed the of the son of god.then they passed it around like a super bowl trophy.that is some vampire shit get me a silver bullet and a wooden stake.yall going to hellllllllllllll!!!!!

  • @sevenfo306 THUMBS UP. Best comment I think I have heard on several years on you tube.

  • Turks were originally imported soldiers, slaves and servants to the Arabs. These servant and slaves later revolted against their masters and became the Saljuq Turks. From DAY ONE SALJUQ TURKS STOLE ARMENIAN GIRLS. Boys were next. Ottoman Turks were already 85% Armenian. You stole, abducted, kidnapped and confiscated Armenian genes, girls, boys and lands. You stole our farms and fruit trees. The 900 year GENOCIDE was NOT enough to kill the last Armenians: A series of COWARDLY MASSACRES did that.

  • @VANArmenya sorry but you can never proove the genocide The Ottomans and armenians lived in PEACE in the past. But the armenians listen to the russians and they work secretly together. They became a part of the russian soldiers and killed so many Turks Even kurds and turkish Azeris in the east blok in Turkey. I got lot of armenian and aramean syrian friends even they says what I'm saying.

  • @uluay85 What fantasy world are you in?

  • @VANArmenya Hahaha fantasy? You can not accept..

  • @uluay85 The WHOLE WORLD knows that the Armenians (unarmed civilians) died in Genocide and the Turks (armed soldiers) died in war.

    Do not compare the Germans who died fighting in a war with Jews burned. Do not compare the HEROIC SELF-DEFENSE OF VAN with the DESERT OF DER ZOR!

    You cannot deny the Armenian Genocide.

    You cannot deny your ancnestors were Christian Armenians abducted by Muslim Turks!

  • @VANArmenya Couldn't put it in better words brother. Very very true indeed. But, you know what, they are still turks and we are the Armenians who were able to stop them from converting and turkishify us. This is more victory for us.

  • FUCK AZERBAYJANS AND TURKS !!!

    ARMENIAN POWER!

  • Would the Romans make that design for someone they thought wasn't special or wasn't God? Because why would they bother to make a cross so ornate? And our Siroon Cross the Armenian Cross kind of resembles the cross on the Holy Spear in Etchmiadzin. I don't know, either way I still believe that it is the true Holy Lance that pierced Our Saviors side.

  • I personally as an Armenian Christian believe that the Holy Lance of Our Lord Jesus Christ is in Etchmiadzin. During the Crusades Kilikia was a great power. I am certain that as the crusaders passed through, the Lance was left to the Armenians and sent to Vagharshapat Catholicate. Armenia was also a big Christian influence also Capadocia, so historically it's possible. I believe its authenticity. But 1 thing I don't understand, why is there a cross on the spear that looks like an Armenian cross?

  • Why is it that on every Armenian video, even if it has nothing to do with the Genocide, is spammed on by Turks and Azeris. You guys really have nothing better to do than to troll around spouting lies and stereotypes? Armenians are loyal so long as you don't betray them. You plan to eradicate us, we fend you off for our survival and our faith. You've always fought with numbers, while we've fought with passion. Do yourselves a favor, and stop being idiotic trolls. You make decent Turks look bad.

  • Forget your own pride, repent in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, follow the Commandments, and do the works of the Lord. May the Lord bless you all, and peace be uponyou all.

  • al ive seen in these comments is i hate this person i hate that person,i hate your religion i hate that religion,islam,christian,hebre­w and other religions all stem from the same source,it is only time and people that have changed the text,but the simerlaritys are there for all to see if you look for them,we all walk a differant path,but we all arrive at the same destination,we are all to eager to hate or get into petty arguments because of things that have happened in the past

  • @fordie2507 I don't hate people--I hate their actions, especially if their actions involve slaughtering an innocent people, and lying about it ever happening. That's called denial of genocide, second only to genocide in the most grievous crime against humanity. If we forget the past, we are doomed to repeat it. If we know the past (living through it), we are sentenced to relive it. If we start remembering the past, we are destined to record it.

  • Very interesting...

  • No, im not...im only muslim, it doesnt meant that im anti-christ..You are anti-islamic...Since all creature created by one god, so why do you hate people? you racist..dont you like what god created..huh?

  • "dont you like what god created..huh?"

    I hope we are all pretty greatful what the God of Abraham created =)

    /A Chrisian

  • I'm Armenian, and people often mistake me for being Irish or English. Probably a lot whiter than you.

    The original white race came from areas around that region, moron. Either way, you're our progeny

  • Turks stole boys and girls from their parents for 900 years. What act is worse than that? It is GENOCIDE by U.N. definition--forcibly converting stolen boys and girls to another language, religion, state. How is your ancestry, again? Stolen Greeks, stolen Armenians, Georgians, Islamized Circassians, stolen Christian Assyrians, Kurds, etc.

    Turks stole my family tree, after killing 75% of it. This in 1915 ALONE! If we include 1071AD to 1923AD, Turks stole Armenian genes PRIOR to the GENOCIDE!

  • Ignorant Armenians, liars, racist bastards..

  • Ignorant turks...open your eyes and admit the truth.

  • @TURKEY Will they ever be civilised? I think not. such a fine country ought to be in better hands. John Webster The paradise of Thieves. Eliza Fry I never saw a place I liked worse, nor which afforded less pleasure or instruction, nor antiquities which less answered their description. James Bruce There is not perhaps upon Earth a more dirty metropolis. ED Clarke A practical joke played on history. Peter Forster
  • Stop counting 1700's fashist people...We are living in 2010...Live today, dont stay in past...

  • I live today but i will never forget the past.

    You should never forget the past so the history does not repeat itself.

  • Armenization was not solely an ethnic process, but a cultural one as well. Saljuq architecture not only took some of its inspiration from Armenian ecclesiastical and civil structures which graced and still grace the landscape of eastern Asia Minor, but in the 11-13th centuries, many of the structures themselves were designed and constructed by Christian and Muslim Armenians. By the end of the 12th century Armenia was well on the way to absorbing and transforming its newest residents.

  • Armenians did not 'rebel." They were slaughtered in a GENOCIDE, idiot!

  • @Nightrain80 wow Nightrain, u really are stupid, arent u?

  • @djgevo13 What is make me stupid? Not sharing same thoughts?

  • @Nightrain80 u just proved my point, "sharing...thoughts"? History isn't based on thoughts, idiot. I read history, I dont make up thoughts (which is what YOUR history is based upon: T.H.S.)

  • @djgevo13 That is your wrong history you believe in, fucking fool. Dont play smart guy brainless bastard. Fucking racist bitch.

  • @Nightrain80... what's exactly MY history? I believe in the history that's told by the world as a whole. I certainly do not believe in the the stories YOUR historical society is trying to sell; Ataturk solely created the Turkish Historical Society in 1932 to FABRICATE what's now known as your NATIONAL(ist) history. So if you're calling me racist because I chose to believe the history told by many vs ONE? Then you should try to broaden you perspectives and look up the word "nationalist"...

  • @djgevo13 (might find yourself pretty amused at how precisely it fits your description).

  • @djgevo13 oh..you know too much..arent you? your brain just washed.

  • @Nightrain80 you uneducated and senseless person. Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. feel sorry 4u

  • @yec5  Feel sorry for yourself, racist!...

  • WE NEED A NEW CRUSADE!!! TO THE EAST ! Greeks are you with us? grab the Serbs, Bulgarians and Macedonians on the way and lets repeat Alexander's Route!!!!!!!

  • We should make a volunteer meeting in europe and first attack target must be set on western european capitols, then perhaps the real crusader boodlines will join up, they are a couple hundred in every cuntry and are needed for getting acess to military equipment. In Hoc Signo Vinces. Swords of Christ.

  • You cannot go without the Anglo-Saksen ;)

  • cool we are on history channel!

  • Muslims god is the god of pain, the moongod.

  • All Man Made Religion is fake, all man made history is fake, fact, and if you don't believe it, ask the Turf yourself! Gotobed = $!

  • What's really funny about archaeology, is that cow's and pig's bone's are basically the same as human bone's, yet these cattle bone's don't last more than 100 yr's in many Country's soil, but Nat Geo keep's digging up human bone's out of the same soil that they claim are thousend's of year's old, yet they've never found a pig or a cow over 100 yr's old, have they!

  • Nope, it's all fake, I've studied a lot about certain message's regarding the Armenian death's in 1915, and the message to the European's was that million's of Armenian's were masecred, when the original message was million's of cancer cell's were destroyed, and the artifact's are made by children since 1919, when Europe was put to the Battle of the Somme, which mean's Sleep on Morphine!

  • Well, how come a message from the East that got rerouted through Germany to the West regarding the 'cure of million's of Cancer Patient's', turned into 'Million's of Armenian's were murdered' in 1915!, the Battle of the Somme, 1919, mean's ' Battle of the Morphine Sleeper's', and 'Diabetes', came from the Nazi's as "Die you sugar beet eater's"!.

  • Is opposition not rejection of something? You go against what you do not like right? Since the people of Armenia as a whole accepted it, that makes them a Christian nation. Its not the same with the Jews.

  • Armenians = Faithfull Allies and defenders of Western European Crusaders. It is time for Western Europe to learn more about holy Armenia!!!

  • errr yeah theres just one thing ...

    Were not actually proud of the crusades.

    There isnt much glory in heading out to kill stuff cause amongs others a holy goose told you to kinda :p

    Or because someones religion is called something else ..

    (read up on the crusade lead by the holy goose btw hihi its a funny one)

  • Sacred objects: New story. I was driving a long distance in a blinding blizzard. I felt God telling me to seek His closeness for protection. I'm not Catholic, but I went into a Catholic trinket shop and bought a beautiful crucifix. I got back on the highway and thought of God coming to earth in Jesus. God told me to suddenly skip my turn-off and switch lanes. I avoided hitting a woman climbing out of her wrecked car. It saved both our lives. When I hold that cross, it makes God seem close.

  • you don rule the world mark.

  • i will one day, MUHAHHAHHAHAHHA!!!!

  • I dont know why they rule out Armenia's spear as an invalid one. I mean think about it, they tried to torture Jesus as much as possible right? Why would they use a sharp spear when a dull one hurts ALOT more -_-

  • ordinary equioemnt of legions- sharp

  • i agree!

  • You're absolutly right. a blunt spear hurts more than a sharp one. excpet the thing is that the gospels say that the spear was used as a final tier to make SURE that christ was dead. so... a sharp one kills a lot better than ablunt one =/ Never are the Gospels clear on what they say, except mabey on Matthew's, so don't completely change yer theroy, cus for all we know that spear could have been just for torture =/

  • dude I don't believe you about the spears. Let me pierce you with a sharp spear and then a blunt one. This way we can analyse this phenonmena.

  • ok, well lets put it this way:

    I got a sharp and a blunt pair of scissors.

    There is a piece of cardboard. to cut the thing in a perfect line with no bends or strays, which scissors would be the best one to make the closest to a straight line? hmm?

    the exact same thign with the spear: a blunt one is just incapable of killing a man at first try, a sharp one would kill a man in first thrust =p and according to the gospels, longinus uses the spear to MAKE SURE christ was DEAD.

  • so true

  • we are the most PURE RACE on earth with blood and culture... we are the most pure!!!

  • LOL Prof. Noble says that the Spear of Christ is used by Armenians to make us distinct, WE ARE DISTINCT with or without the spear, and not all of Armenia was under Ottoman control...

  • So true! Georgians and Armenians united to repel Turkish Mongol control in some areas, for example.

  • in that time there whas no ottoman ottoman is 1000 years old armeia 7000

  • cristians of the world unite .

  • We have been holding the Holy Power in our hands for 1707 years and most of you just found out about Armenia, or didn't know of Armenia i wonder why?

  • Armenia the first Nation too embrace Christianity!

  • Հայրենիքը պետք է սիրել անկախ այնտեղ տիրող քաղաքական ռեժիմից և ձեր քաղաքական համոզմունքներից...

    Գարեգին Նժդեհ

  • Armenia was the FIRST country in the world to accept Christianity as a NATIONAL religion in 301 AD. Since 301 Armenia has been a proud Christian nation. Even though armenia suffered because of ceing surrounded by Muslim countries and they were always targeted for Holy war. BTW Noah's Ark landed on mount Ararat in Armenia.

  • That Mountain is in Turkey you fool.

  • HOW DARE YOU DENY THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE !

    Turkey is Mongolia. Look up on google UPSHOT SALJUQ and read about your origins in Mongolia. You stole Armenians for decades. You are the scum of the peoples of earth. Liars. Killers. Demons.

    YOU RACISTS!

  • one thing i want to no, with no disrepect is armenia orthodox? or is it evangeli religion?

  • Armenian church apostolic

  • ORTHODOX NATION

  • lol haters always have something to say.

  • stupid fuck shut up,, hater,,,,

  • Mmm I thought they'll prove it or something, it doesn't really say anything...basically they are all fakes...

  • I found out about da Spear of Destiny (Spear of Christ) after watching Constantine and I was so curious that I did da research to know where and wat it was and it said one of da objects is in Etchmiadzin and I was like sooo PROUD!!!! thx fo this video:)!

  • ARMENIA!!!!!!

  • proud to be first CHRISTIAN NATION!

  • armenia was the first nation(as a whole ) to accept it as the national religon. that means everyone.

    whats the national religon of israel? huh?

  • Armenia is the first christian nation in the world isreal is not a christian nation jesus was born in jrusalem he is a jew but jews did not want to blive in christianity so they killed him but as a nation we where the firs people took christianity as the national religon in Armenia.

  • Are you from earth?? Israel isn't even a christian nation, it's jewish?? Armenia is recognized worldwide as the firs christian naiton in the world. You'll find it in every jewish ensyclopedia or history book

  • my dear freind... do us all a favor and go brush up on some encyclopedias. If ya wanna know, the Jews OPPOSED christ, not revered him, so no , they're not the first christian nation =)

  • nice video, wow i did not know armenia was da first christian nation. nice going armenia

  • proud to be first CHRISTIAN NATION!

  • whit french crusades, king of france saint louis and french knights templar. in france we have some relics of Christianity. (holy sponge, 1st fragment of the holy lance (the second fragment is in vatican), crown of thorns, 1st fragment of the true cross, (Rumor for holy grail lost in france whit knights templar)) but whit the french revolution we have kill religion, king, monk, relics. Only the crown of thorns and fragment of the true cross has been saved, actually in paris cathedral

  • wheres part 3? goodd video indeed

  • shitty :P

  • dammnnn i m proud to be an Armenianss!!! Greece and Armenians are the holy land of the christianety, thats he truth,in armenia are so many fact that we are a holy land who dont belive it sorry but it is so :)

  • Good Video, thanks for uploading

  • What does this have to do with Armenia?

  • I am just so proud of being an Armenian

  • But it seems that the Armenian lance isn't even a lance technically. But it is good to be proud of you heritage.

  • omg i never knew this this is the video that every Armenian youth should watch. couse this is a big part of our history. omg i cant even believe that the spear is in Armenia

  • What about the video makes you say "bullshit?" Are you sick in the head?

  • VAN, the guy who said bullshit is a moron and not worthy of your time. Thanks for the upload.

  • This is a nice video. I always wanted to find a video like this that would talk about the Spear of Christ.

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