Niall Ferguson - Empire: How Britain Made the Modern World - Maxim Force 5/5

[fsstogre]

Thanks for posting these videos .. Good documentary ...

[fsstogre]

The British won the Boer war using those tactics .. Do the same thing in Afganistan and you will win that war ..

[JohnnyH1982]

@fsstogre theres a difference mate between the 19th century Boers and 12th century Radical Islamists a huge one.

[fsstogre]

@JohnnyH1982 ,, counter- insurgency warfare is all the same .. If Nato did what the British did in the boer war they would win .. Protected villiages , scorched earth policy , 500,000. troops in country, 50 km long sweep lines .. But those things don't happen anymore . They don't even use Napalm anynore .. British did win the counter-insurgentcy war in Malaya with some of those tactics ..

[Versus1984]

@fsstogre

"They don't even use Napalm anynore"

Why should they? They have phosphorous bombs, and fuel bombs, and cluster munitions. Quite more effective than the old Napalm.

[TheLiberalKnight]

@fsstogre My dear Canadian friend, we can't go around Afghanistan burning down the cities. It's politically inept.

[Allyness92]

irish shit

[grimaces]

@Allyness92

Not quite Irish shit. The 9 years war made reference to was led by two chieftains O'Neill and O'Donnell who garnered successive victories over two elizabethan armies. Eventually they were defeated at battle of Kinsale. Scorch and earth policy was normal British preactice at this time. If you're really interested in history you can check it up.

[grimaces]

If you're just interested in mudslinging here's one for you. Irelands seccession from the empire in 1921 was after the US the first breakaway state but more significant when in reference to the British Empire's break up because it paved the way for other countries to follow suite. The Indians often referred to the Irish example. Anyway hadn't the English placed their own self perceived greatness above normal human common sense both countries might have stayed. You designed your fall.

[TheLiberalKnight]

@grimaces The British American civil war (which is what it really was) did not mark the end of the British Empire. It marked the beginning.

[Seano71]

The Brits did the exact same in Ireland when they were out faught by O'Neill and O'Donnell

[Kelthuzad126]

History can be unpleasant for sure, America had concentration camps in WWII BUT it was more like a prison cause they where taken care of well fed housed and all. Also Brittain made concentration camps in WWII for Jews but it was meant to protect them, although Jews felt betrayed and it actually wasn't a good idea. But they where taken care of there as well.

[William00048]

@Kelthuzad126 The US likes to say the Brits were the first to use Concentration Camps in the Boar War but it was the US that was the first and used as a matter of course. 1830s Native Americans, in Cuba in the 1868 - 78 war and later in 1898 1901 in the Philippines.

[Baledwyr]

Where the hell did you get that? British concentration camps during the Boer Wars were in no way, shape or form the equivalent of what the Nazis devised during the second world war.

The British developed the camps as a place of protective custody, they were not work camps and they were not death camps, they were designed souly to keep the families behind fences and away from their fighting men in order to hit Boer Morale the reason so many died in the camps is simply a matter of negligence.

[lozfalcon]

In other words the British sett the examples the Nazis follow. That's a revelation.