AHAHAHAHAH HE was dead wrong on the rioting. This guy doesnt now what he is talking. This is why, so many minorities dont vote for conservatives or republicans. He is attacking us with out facts. People were not going to riot if he won or lost and they didnt. Stop generalizing us we are above the sterotypes. I will still support bob and the republican party though.
My dad and his parents were up there in the Rodney king riots. My dad's dad said that a couple guys came up to him and said: "Want us to burn your gas station or protect it?" and my grandad replied... I don't give a shit what you do to it, I'm out of here.
Bob, I know I might come off as a Monday Morning Quaterback, but at that risk I have to say I didn't think there would be riots if Obama won. I'm surprised you thought so. On the other hand we'll never know Gen Y's reaction had he lost.
Yeah I get your logic. If Obama wins the youth are going to riot. If he loses blacks are going to riot. Yeah I see I love cynical people you because demegouges like you are the reason why this contry is falling apart.
I'm liking it fine. How are you liking life after losing the biggest election in history? Lol. After you're done nibbling on those sour grapes, maybe you can tell us all about the killing and rioting that took place the night Obama crushed McCain like a bug. The GOP has conceded that Bush was the worst ever. Debate over.
Righhhttt...you know exactly how the next election will turn out and we should listen to you because you were soooo right about the last election huh? Lol. Please. I love listening to you bitter republicans crying...I could debate policy with you but why really? Obama won 53% to 46%, 365 to 173, with nearly a 10million vote margin in the popular vote. He did all that without your vote dipshit...meaning he won't need your vote next time. Which makes you completely irrelevant. Go fuck yourself.
The reason he won by that much was because of the color of his skin. You want to see what America will be like with him as president in four years? Look back to 1940's Germany. Sige Heil! Heil Obama.
Excuses, excuses. Nobody likes a whiner and listening you crybaby republicans is getting really tiresome. You lost bitch, deal with it. Last thing folks want to see after the super bowl is the losing team rolling around on the grass crying like girls. Why don't you and these other dumbass conservatives cowboy the fuck up and get ready for next season? Fucking pussies aren't even worthy opponents anymore and perhaps never were actually.
@Joeybsmooth It's ironic that you fucking sheep are the actual house negros. You're so upset about it that you have to tape that name onto sensible blacks who aren't fucking idiots like you.
I smell an ignorant lemming who believes that blacks are only allowed to beg for handouts to the Democrat party as opposed to say............independent thought, self determination, personal responsibility, discipline, etc???
Hows that Socialism thing working out for your people??? Funny the black family survived slavery and segregation but just look at you now.
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No, didn't happen, rather, the crowds left EMPTY. It was an empty victory.... a grave mistake, and everyone knew it. The crowds left walking with their heads low. Hummm.... guess the acceptance speech didn't sound quite the promising song. Even the media stood like they just got duped.
Actually the crowds leaving Grant Park were pretty happy: watch?v=VYPJehk9H6c.
Maybe you should stop projecting your own bitterness onto other people and go on with your life. You'll have another chance to elect a right wing nutjob in 4 years. You won't win, but it's worth a try.
No matter who won, Obama or McCain, I would have stood behind them as our president, even though I voted for Obama. I respect both men, as they are doing what most people aren't cut out for, running for the highest office in our country. Not ALL Obama supporters are "bleeding hearts" or "blacks who just want a black in office." Just like all McCain supporters aren't "racist" or "bible clutching gun toting freaks." It's a stereotype for "some."
The minute Obama won, the thugs came out. They are the only ones who continue racism. They proceed with life as a victim, perhaps because it's easier than working hard? I don't know. But the way they respond to this will not go unnoticed by the nation and the world. I think Obama himself would be humiliated by the actions and responses already witnessed. They want to be respected, but act so disrespectfully....and still don't quite understand that.
I don't doubt that somewhere someone ignorant will do something stupid. But as a person who attended the rally in Grant park, I can say it was beautiful, and NOONE did anything negative of the sorts. It was a diverse crowd of people there with a common interest.
What's interesting is if you don't support Obama because of his policies (abortion, gay marriage, distribution of others' income) many simply call me a "racist white bitch"...
That is the tone I think that keeps racism alive...from the perspective of someone who is basically a conservative and would've been proud to vote for a black CONSERVATIVE, it looks pretty ghetto...and I think is what continues the racist thoughts about blacks..because of that behavior. It's such a shame...:-(
Again, I am sure there are people like that, just as there are people for McCain who would never even THINK of voting for Obama because he's black, not because of his policies. Your statements above also keep racism alive. If we as AMERICANS decide to be the better person, look inside of ourselves and hold ourselves individually and as a group to higher standards, then we might be able to start making some changes.
Well, I'm sure liberals would love us to allow someone to spew tht kind of self-hating language out there, undisputed, and unchallenged. But when they are recycling their own hatred, I'm going to present that to them...I did so in a respectful way, and I will continue to do it. Someone has to care enough about them to tell them the truth about what their doing to hurt their own cause, otherwise it just continues. I'm putting a stop to it as I am able. I'm not just going to sit on the sidelines.
Not asking you to sit on the sidelines, just pointing out that spitting hatred back isn't the answer. That kind of battle is cyclical and noone ever actually "gets it." As long as we challenge prejudice and hatred of all kinds coming from ALL people, then we are on the road to becoming better as people. Doing so with grace and intelligence is a lot harder than matching ignorance with ignorance.
I'm presenting facts I experienced. When someone calls me a "white racist bitch" because I don't support Obama's liberal agenda, I would label that as "thug behavior", and presenting that fact as truth is not being prejudice...it's simply stating a fact. These particular supporters demonstrated thug behavior...that was actually a diplomatic way of putting it, considering the language that was used by them.
I think we are speaking about two different things, to be honest. I didn't say "YOU" were spitting hatred. It is not right for someone to call you a "white racist bitch" because you don't support Obama's views. That's just plain ignorant. As for it being "thug" behavior, I don't know. If someone tried to bash you over the head because of your views that to me is "thug" behavior, but it's all a matter of personal definition. Either way, both is wrong.
Additionally, it's very unfortunate that some Obama supporters believe that is acceptable behavior, and what being a black person is all about...I simply allow it on the table for discussion, rather than hide it to spare them embarrassment. When they behave as thugs do, it's not surprising when that term comes up...they should expect to be labeled in such a matter when their behavior warrants it. I for one, will not seek to reward their behavior simply because you happen to agree with them.
This is not about tit for tat. McCain supporters have shown their fair share of ignorance and unacceptable behavior, as well. That's not the point. What I AM trying to say is it takes us as PEOPLE to move beyond that form of communication, to not meet ignorance with ignorance. In the end, what does that solve? Nothing. Challenge ignorance. So they want to call you a racist white bitch? Why? Because you don't support Obama? Tell me why I should then? People need to be made to THINK.
And when those people who are prejudice against blacks who voted for McCain makes their remarks, I challenge that as well. I could sit with my hands folded neatly in my lap or I can challenge the mentalities that keep us all from becoming the nation we could be.
I guess my question would be why are these things being said to someone calling another person a "racist white bitch"...instead they're being said to someone calling out a thug who approached her. Where was it I heard "Do not try to remove a splinter in your brother's eye when you have a log in your own"....I know typically liberals do not respect or appreciate what Jesus had to say, but it would seem to me you would need to start giving advice to your fellow O/supporters first...
I am not "giving advice" I thought we were having a discussion. I don't have anything wrong with you calling this person a "thug." That's your perception. And if that person who called you a racist white bitch was online, I would be having this conversation with them, as well. What I have been trying to ask you (obviously unsuccessfully) is how your approach actually helped or moved towards improving the situation? And I don't just discuss racial relations with Obama supporters, but with all.
Then perhaps look around on YouTube and begin discussing it with those in your own house first. When you skip on over to someone else's house...it comes across as lacking integrity. Who couldn't do that? Is it not the larger challenge to change from within?
When an Obama supporter attacks a McCain supporter with that kind of low class vocabulary, and you want to discuss it with the one attacked, it seems quite hypocritical. Shouldn't you be starting with your own party? Shouldn't your team represent all you talk about BEFORE you try to persuade others to behave as you would like them to? Is it that you don't hold hope for those on your own team? Take a look around, and perhaps begin the conversion from the inside. It would appear more geniune.
I'm not talking to a PARTY, I'm talking to you. An individual. I am not defined by a party, I am defined by my beliefs. Again, I was approaching you as an individual, not a political activist from EITHER side.
Passing right by them to go to the other side and holding "intelligent discussions"...is ridiculous. Deal with your problems, then you will have good reason to complain to the other side. As for me, when someone attacks me that way, I will call them out on it. I will let them know exactly how they are represeting themselves to the world...and you outta be too...not looking the other way as you walk past them to advise the other side.
This is EXACTLY why things are so slow to change. I don't see where I ever claimed EITHER side. I was simply addressing YOU. But I sense you are already on the defensive and can't see when someone is just trying to have an open conversation. Please excuse my mistake and have a great day. I do wish you well.
Indeed, you came to me with the plea to being intelligent conversation with those in your party who behave disgracefully. My point is begin with you...being with those in your party who are behaving badly...it's just too easy to start with the party you don't agree with. Take responsibilty for those in your party who don't represent you well. Fix things at home first.
When a parent sees her child hit another kid on the playground,and the other child hits back, which child should the parent go after?She should go after her child, because she is first responsible for own child's behavior. Then she should explain to that child "If you hit people, they will not like that, and some will hit back"
The parent should not start by complaining about the other child, but first correct the behavior of her own, because guess what? If her child stops hitting people, the problem goes away.
It seems if that parent was you, you would walk past your child, and have a discussion with the other child on how to properly deal with hitting children by showing grace and forgiveness...
Uh oh...I sense the tone changing because you are the recipient of some advice...okay look...I'll make it simple.
Start with those who voted for Obama, as you did, and are acting disgracefully and making the African American community look very very bad. Then when you are successful in getting them to stop the bleeding, come on back and we can talk about how the conservatives behave...how's that?
My "tone" is not changing, I have ALWAYS held the same tone and same statements, I just am not the type of person that enjoys e-fights. I came to you talking about the behaviors from BOTH sides, not one. And as for the AA community, I'd suggest you think about the fact that some do not represent ALL. When will the stereotyping end? And again, why would I only focus on helping out a "group" of people and just simply care about ALL people?
First perhaps, you should get your child to stop hitting other children. I know with what your house is dealing with, that's a tall order, and it must be much easier coming after people who are simply defending their character, but it's still wrong...obviously easy...but pretty hypocritical...and I will continue to defend my character against those kind of "children".
Again, assuming I am speaking for a PARTY of people when I am speaking as an individual and about a much larger scheme than just the Repub. and Democ.
If this is true, then begin with those who have the worse offense.
"Racist White Bitch"
"Thug"....
Let's See...Looks pretty easy to me...
Let me confirm earlier what I said...I will defend my character against someone who acts disgracefully. If you are uncomfortable with that...talk to them about attacking people's character. I'm off to work...but would love to discuss this further anytime after that.
So, if the word "thug" offends you, my advice to you would be to begin with those who's words began this thing with "racist white bitch"...that would be a great start. Because you never would've heard a complaint from me had those words not been hurled my way to begin all this. Start at home...parent. When you have that under control, you can start teaching the class on proper behavior on the playground.
I never stated the word "thug" offended me. It's just a word, which I have a different meaning of than you. Also, please stop being condescending. You have taken EVERYTHING that I have presented to you and went on major defensive. Maybe you were just too hurt by being called a "racist white bitch." Maybe it struck a nerve, because you are acting like "I" said it. I had no ill will towards you other than to discuss with you, instead you are telling me to go "fix my people."
Well dear friend, you REPLIED to me when I made that comment. When you begin a conversation with me, I will respond...if you want to call that "defensive"...you can twist it however you like. But I will respond. If you don't want a discussion about things you bring up...don't bring them up.
I sure did reply to you, because I thought your comment was interesting and worth discussion. My mistake for reading too much into it and thinking you would be open to discuss not attack with "go fix "your" house, go talk to "your" children, etc. My fault for trying to open a dialogue with someone who "happens" to be a McCain supporter. My fault for thinking you were an individual first and a Republican somewhere after that.
My my my....easy to get "DEFENSIVE" when challenged....perhaps you should follow your own advice.
Before you automatically interpret everything I said as racist...let me be very clear, and I'm not sure how much easier I can make this:
If an Obama supporter wants "change"...begin that change within the group of people who are chanting "change"..and then come prove it to us unbelievers...:-)
Start with that...I think you'll be much more effective when it comes time to have an "open-minded discussion" with those your fellow Obama supporters are attacking. Prove to us unbelievers that you have the answer so we can then SEE it...not just debate it.
And if you see someone today say "Hey racist white bitch" out of absolutely nowhere...
help them join you in changing our country for the better...
Don't just give them a "pass" or expect others to understand, overlook, and excuse...
Expect from them the kind of behavior you advise those who oppose your agenda to exhibit. Expect from them the kind of change you are preaching to the world about, after all...it starts with you...:)
You are acting like a victim. Was that right for that person to say? Hell NO. However, the easy road is to say "THEY need to do all the changing, I will sit back, my feelings are hurt, etc." That person was IGNORANT. If not you than someone else (and if I was there I most CERTAINLY would have schooled them otherwise) would put them in their place. BUT what about YOU? What are YOU going to do to make things change? Were you satisfied with the way things have been? Maybe change isn't for you.
When an fellow Obama supporter initiates a conversation with "Racist White Bitch"
You, being their fellow Obama supporter would simply begin by saying:
"That's not the kind of change we were talking about"...and continue a "discussion" about how "that kind of comment does not convince those conservatives who do not believe in Obama that we have the real answer. It simply represents that we are an angry group of people who cannot argue effectively and that doesn't make us look very good"
I believe in Obama's message. However, I do not think he is the only one capable of making a difference, of bringing about change. I believe it is up to us all, you as well as myself, to do it. One doesn't have to believe in Obama to believe in making a positive change.
On the contrary...Obama chanted "change, and yes we can"...from the beginning...He is now the poster child for change...if we needed change so very desperately...let's see what you have to offer...
Lead by example...you desperately pleaded to give you the chance to bring change.
Oh geez. Instead of doing your part as a human being to bring about change, you shall sit back on your laurels and wait for people to "bring it?" I agree he is the poster child for change. But he is not able to do it by himself. He also spoke about personal accountability. If you want to sit back and wait for it to come to you that is your peragotive.
Well then change is not for you. I have always worked to bridge gaps and open communication lines WAY before Obama stepped into the ring, and I will continue for as long as I live. It is something I believe in and will support.
It's also not the brightest idea for ANY person to put full stock in one MAN. It takes a lot more than one person to change a broken system. However, I am at least willing to give him a shot to try and fix it. It's sounding like you're just bitter McCain lost.
Please don't base the actions of one ignorant individual on the entire population. That is simply unfair. And please excuse me if you misunderstood the way I speak. I NEVER meant to come off as thinking you being called that as acceptable. I was trying to point out how it's wrong, but instead of meeting ignorance with ignorance, to meet it with intelligence. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
You really should be pointing it out to those who instigate that behavior...not to those receiving it...we already know that.
For someone who consistantly ripped Bush and all he did keeping this country safe...promising to change all the wrongs of this country...
I think it is now upon him to make the change happen. I have my convictions and will continue to work hard towards the issues that are important to me...that will never change...
I already said that I DO and will continue to. Does that mean I should not have conversations with people like yourself? Don't get me wrong, just because I talked to you doesn't mean I don't talk to the people you are referencing. It doesn't open lines of communication if you ONLY talk to one "side."
And I urge you to not just sit back but to work with us, not just "democrats." but with us, other PEOPLE to bring about positive change. It cannot be done alone. Don't do it for "Obama" or his administration, but as a decent human being. Peace.
And I urge you to not just sit back but to work with us, not just "democrats." but with us, other PEOPLE to bring about positive change. It cannot be done alone. Don't do it for "Obama" or his administration, but as a decent human being. Peace.
Actually I did. I was active duty in the Army during President Bush. So YES. I did work day and night protecting this country. NO DOUBT.
Did I fall for all of the mudslinging GOING BOTH WAYS?? No. I have a mind, I chose to filter for MYSELF. Now. Did YOU work with president Bush when he worked day and night for this country?
I respectfully disagree with your statements. There are MANY MANY soldiers who back Obama. And it's also true that many things he said has been taken out of context or not given the full picture; JUST LIKE FOR MCCAIN.
It's all said and done. The nice thing about our country is we can disagree with our president and still be for our country. I don't agree with you on many points, but hopefully when it comes to standing for our country and ALL the citizens in it, we can at least be united in that. I am off to the movies. Take care.
So wrong...Us conservatives are the only ones who have to multi-task...
I've been multi-tasking all morning...for the sake of completing this debate...ya think you could've taken your blackberry in with you or something...geeeze.
Actually I took my son to see Madagascar, not "W." Feel free to send people my way if you are unable to handle that kind of situation with grace and intelligence; I will be glad to handle it. But anywho, I again wish you the best, I won't belittle you like I feel you have started doing to me.
Wow, what a twist...okay..I'll be very very clear here...
1. YOU responded to me advising me that I added to the racism problem by calling out an Obama supporter for calling me a white racist bitch..remember?... and that it would be best to handle situations with more intelligence than that, completely disregarding the fact she called me what she did...it was worse that I referred to her as a "thug". (That, my friend, would be a judgement.)
2. YOU claimed that you speak to fellow O/supporters as well about your concerns of bad behavior...so on behalf of your balance and fairness...you can have her to speak to with my blessings. And I expect that you will completely set her straight as you attempted to do with me, righttt????
Because after all...it isn't about who's side we're on....riggghhhhtttt???? Of course.
3. Not sure what you're referring to with regard to being sarcastic/being stupid...not at all sure where that came from.
4. No one is belittling anyone??? At least it is not my intention to...I certainly cannot speak for you.
5. Yes, we did come full circle...YOU began the judgement session with judging my comment, and then ended it w/asking me to allow God to judge...that would be full circle, my dear.
Okay...to summarize...I'm very happy that you are happy with the results of the election, having said that please know that if you reply to a comment I make giving me advice on how to conduct myself when your brothers and sisters in "O" are completely out of control..this all is going to start all over again...right?
So...why not just leave it with...you can be happy that your man is in, and I can be happy that I don't rely on govt..so I'll be just fine too...:-) and.....
If...one of your O/siblings approaches me in a disrespectful fashion, I will indeed call them on it. If that means to aptly title them a "thug"...then...so be it. Perhaps they shouldn't behave like a thug...is what I'm thinkin', but then we'd have to go into the whole playground thing again.
I'm very happy for you that you most likely enjoyed your movie...and perhaps you should go see "W" this weekend to top it off...I hear it's pretty enjoyable. Have a great weekend...
Ok sunneyskys. The point being I opened up to have a conversation with you. My mistake because it has been combative in a way that is non productive. But, I am smart enough to recognize when it's not a conversation, just a "I WIN! YOU'RE WRONG! I'M RIGHT!" situation. And that to me is not worth it and goes against the purpose of talking about the issue with the ability to work towards understanding each other. Truly, from behind my computer screen to yours, be well my friend.
And my point has been all along that the conversation should have been brought up with the purpertrator...not me.
But since you chose to bring it up with me in a "look, this is the way you ought to handle things"...kind of way...that's how the conversation took form, and went.
There was no understanding at that point that was needed between you and I...between Thug and I, yes...but that's not going to be accomplished when Thug is not being confronted about her behavior.
Since you have deemed yourself "smart enough to recognize" elements of our discussion...then recognize what I've been saying all along....it seems that's being skipped over...but alas..it's a listening thing. If you truly want to "understand each other" listening is necessary...there hasn't been a whole lot of that from you, if I may say...just a need to advise, and then say "Oh forget it...you obviously don't want to improve yourself" when I don't buy what you're selling.
What I've been trying to communicate all along is personal responsibility is crucial to bring everyone together as you state you want to do. When you bipass your sibling to come to the other side and give advise...it doesn't ring true. It doesn't show the integrity needed to get the job done. But I feel I could go on and on about something pretty basic and you still won't acknowledge what is being said, so hence, I try to bring you full circle so you are in my position and can see that way.
Well now we agree. Personal responsibility. I feel you are ignoring my apoligies if you did not understand my approach for dealing with a "thug." I apoligized, so why is that still being brought up. Which is why I feel like I am in a "winner loser" conversation instead of just a conversation to come to understanding. I am not looking to be in that kind of conversation because that is not where I personally am at right now.
sunney, please go back and read what I said to you. Were you listening (well, reading to understand) during our exchanges or just waiting to jump on me?
Okay...fair enough...but I remember your initial comment being that I am adding to the racism problem by my comments.
And that's where I have a problem. Calling someone a thug who has acted like a thug is plainly just stating a fact.
When someone is attacked, the consequences of that action is people will call you out on that, because that is a great way to confront a very bad behavior...letting them see what they look like to others is powerful.
What I am saying, right now, is that I was wrong in choosing to respond to your comment. I looked at your comment, and your page, and thought I would be speaking to a person who is flexible and not the typical youtuber. A person with the capacity to have a open conversation. I do understand my train of thought, and I have tried to explain it, even while going back and giving my apologies if I came off a certain way and trying to explain myself better.
In summary if you want to understand the other side...personal responsibility has to come first. You cant simply identify a problem, and advise an opponent and magically have them say "oh you're right...I'm gonna start working on that" when you are not willing to acknowledge the shortcomings on your side. It's pretty simple really, what I've been trying to say...but there doesn't seem to be any understanding coming from your end about that.
With all due respect, if being in a win-lose conversation was not where you are personally at, I'm confused as to why you began your counseling session with me...you had to have known that approaching someone with advise on how to live their life would certainly bring with it some kind of defense from them....??
Again, I am sorry you took it that way. Not my intention. But, I have already said that and you haven't acknowledged it nor moved on from it. So honestly, I am done, I recognize when we won't reach any kind of conclusion to this chat that either of us will be satisfied with. I gracefully bow out. Take care.
Well no...you haven't explained uour train of thought...if it indeed was not to simply fix the other side without addressing problems from within, you can certainly bow out now that we are getting down the crux of the issue...I guess I'm just confused as to how you thought there could be an understanding when you bow out at defining moment.
I still wish you the best...if you ever want to bring a conclusion to this discussion...feel free.
I could go on and on in an attempt to reach understanding...but you have to want to understand...I guess.
I certainly wish you the best as well...I hope you get a chance to enjoy your weekend...I gotta go catch a seance with Nancy Reagan... ;0) Take Care...
Look. My message, plain and simple. Don't stand back and do nothing. Don't generalize, don't WAIT for change. If that isn't clear enough as to what I believe, then I don't know what is. I wish no ill will, no hate to ANYONE, regardless of affiliation. I may not like a lot of what goes on, but I am not the ultimate judge, I can only be true in my heart and stand up for what I believe in, which in the end, is HUMANITY.
As for being a judge...you all were very judgemental of Bush...so yes...you have made yourself a judge...don't stop now just because your choice is in.
Who is "You all?" Certainly you don't know what "I" believed. Again, part of the problem is grouping. There were PLENTY of people disgruntled with Bush. Polls showed MANY, including his own party, unhappy with him.
I am glad you don't need change. Many people do. I will be helping to change not just my life, but those of my people, meaning ALL people. I would suggest that you also judge wisely. Because there ultimately is only 1 judge that matters.
Actually I responded to you not in judgement, but in dialogue. If you felt judged that wasn't my intention. So, although you may feel we've come full circle, I feel we have been talking in 2 SEPARATE circles.
If a McCain supporter would call you or anyone else a nigger, I would say to you "that does not represent my views, or what conservative views stand for...they are speaking on their own behalf and you have every right not to be happy with that comment". What I WOULDN'T do is jump to the other side immediately and begin correcting you for defending yourself against that. How convenient that would've been!! But...utterly and completely irresponsible.
OH so now the McCain supporters are "speaking on their own behalf" yet you tell me to go "fix my "party" and teach at home? Come on. Again. I am talking about PERSONAL responsibility. Not to a PARTY but as a person in this world. Again, I am certain this is an offensive/defensive conversation. I was sincerely hoping to have an open (non combative) conversation. I was not trying to start a fight. All I can say is I am going to do MY part to be a better person and help ALL people. Take care.
Exactly why the world is so divided. "go back and talk to your people," right? Forget "reaching across the table." Maybe there was some truth to you being called a racist. Because that divided attitude definitely doesn't speak to mending fences. Thank you for showing your true colors.
One more thing.. Dont ASSume that I don't have these kinds of conversations with Obama supporters. Because when it comes to knocking down walls and challenging racism and stereotypes, I do not discriminate. Don't assume to know what I do simply because I talked to you online.
Black republicans are all uncle toms, because you are being used by a majority of McCain supporters that hate you, because you are black. Some things are a little more important than money and economics. How about pride, and a spine. I refuse to back a candidate whos base is speaking of killing 102 Black people, and spew racial epithets at their rallies. What would you do at your McCain rally when Bubba next to you says "Kill the nigger"? Say well I make my own money? You are all sell-outs.
first off, im a white male and a republican. as for your video Mr.Parks, thank you. Thank you for providing youtube viewers with a REAL TRUTHFUL outlook on the situation, not some stereotypical garbage that everyone else is posting, just to feed the fires of the "riots" to come. hopefully others watch your speech and take it all in. thanks again bob.
Who in the hell is this house nigga?
Mr40acresandamule 2 months ago
Obama, Bush, Same thing different face
rimu1011 2 years ago
Sir BlackandRight, you are sooooooooooo good, smart, and well prepared... I look forward to all your informative videos!!!!!
Bapakgila 2 years ago
Maybe I was an election too early, because I'll wait and see how you behave when his ass is thrown out.
And at least I wasn't a pussy enough to remove this when it didn't happen.
BlackAndRight 2 years ago
it's not obama's america will lose, it's america will lose..
rambler1987 2 years ago
AHAHAHAHAH HE was dead wrong on the rioting. This guy doesnt now what he is talking. This is why, so many minorities dont vote for conservatives or republicans. He is attacking us with out facts. People were not going to riot if he won or lost and they didnt. Stop generalizing us we are above the sterotypes. I will still support bob and the republican party though.
therepublicanknight 2 years ago
that is exactly what would have happend
kt3915 2 years ago
haha your countrys run by a negro
lukeyboymufc1990 2 years ago
My dad and his parents were up there in the Rodney king riots. My dad's dad said that a couple guys came up to him and said: "Want us to burn your gas station or protect it?" and my grandad replied... I don't give a shit what you do to it, I'm out of here.
irish4lyf3 3 years ago
Hey, I respect your refusal to go with the flow but those predictions turned out to be a tad dramatic, no?
oddfielder 3 years ago
this guy is smart
deelaregina 3 years ago 2
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This guys sounds just like a useless house nigger....
freein2339 3 years ago
The recent Oakland riots are proving this.
Glyvxx 3 years ago
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Change your channel to "Black & Wrong". This guy's a dickhead
jumpnjza2 3 years ago
Bob, I know I might come off as a Monday Morning Quaterback, but at that risk I have to say I didn't think there would be riots if Obama won. I'm surprised you thought so. On the other hand we'll never know Gen Y's reaction had he lost.
marneydog 3 years ago
Yeah I get your logic. If Obama wins the youth are going to riot. If he loses blacks are going to riot. Yeah I see I love cynical people you because demegouges like you are the reason why this contry is falling apart.
Dblock7185 3 years ago 2
yeah he made a fool of himself.
No riots accrued. Black republicans say they are free thinkers lol now there are smart ones (powel) but these guys need i say more?
GamerJerks 3 years ago
How are you liking that hope and change from Obama?
The smart ones knew he was a fraud and you're just an idiot.
HokiesAndDawgs 2 years ago
I'm liking it fine. How are you liking life after losing the biggest election in history? Lol. After you're done nibbling on those sour grapes, maybe you can tell us all about the killing and rioting that took place the night Obama crushed McCain like a bug. The GOP has conceded that Bush was the worst ever. Debate over.
sergeantnorider 2 years ago
Nah, I'm just nibbling on the same sour grapes that you morons nibbled on for the past eight years.
Obama is a liar and his pullout from Iraq is a grand total of one less month than Bush's plan.
Keep following you sheep. Obama gets voted out in 2012.
HokiesAndDawgs 2 years ago
Righhhttt...you know exactly how the next election will turn out and we should listen to you because you were soooo right about the last election huh? Lol. Please. I love listening to you bitter republicans crying...I could debate policy with you but why really? Obama won 53% to 46%, 365 to 173, with nearly a 10million vote margin in the popular vote. He did all that without your vote dipshit...meaning he won't need your vote next time. Which makes you completely irrelevant. Go fuck yourself.
sergeantnorider 2 years ago
Yawn........I love you morons that follow a guy that has lied about all of his campaign promises.
BTW dipshit - Things change...remember Bush whooping Kerry in the polls in 2004? That really helped McCain, eh?
You're a typical Obama voter meaning a fucking moron when it comes to politics.
As mentioned, go fuck yourself, sheep.
HokiesAndDawgs 2 years ago
The reason he won by that much was because of the color of his skin. You want to see what America will be like with him as president in four years? Look back to 1940's Germany. Sige Heil! Heil Obama.
PCHSRAIDER09 2 years ago
Excuses, excuses. Nobody likes a whiner and listening you crybaby republicans is getting really tiresome. You lost bitch, deal with it. Last thing folks want to see after the super bowl is the losing team rolling around on the grass crying like girls. Why don't you and these other dumbass conservatives cowboy the fuck up and get ready for next season? Fucking pussies aren't even worthy opponents anymore and perhaps never were actually.
sergeantnorider 2 years ago
I smell an uncle tom.
jumpnjza2 3 years ago
me to
GamerJerks 3 years ago
I smell a racist. I think you might be it.
itachi705 3 years ago
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I smell a house negro (this guy on video)
jumpnjza2 3 years ago
So because he's able to think for himself, he's a "house negro?" You racism is showing.
itachi705 3 years ago 2
Not really, he over dramatizes the situation, thats all.
jumpnjza2 3 years ago
@itachi705
No he is a house negro because of his action and words. If he was Jewish in WWII he would be be telling Hitler were his fellow jews where hiding.
Joeybsmooth 1 year ago
@Joeybsmooth It's ironic that you fucking sheep are the actual house negros. You're so upset about it that you have to tape that name onto sensible blacks who aren't fucking idiots like you.
itachi705 1 year ago
@itachi705
LOL Until you can address someone with have swearing you might want to rethink calling other people idiots. Also where were the mass riots ?
Joeybsmooth 1 year ago
I smell an ignorant lemming who believes that blacks are only allowed to beg for handouts to the Democrat party as opposed to say............independent thought, self determination, personal responsibility, discipline, etc???
Hows that Socialism thing working out for your people??? Funny the black family survived slavery and segregation but just look at you now.
You only have yourself to blame.
espada9 2 years ago
Well, thankfully, the riots didn't happen.
UCSPanther20 3 years ago
..look at this ''prophet''
thevideohater 3 years ago
obviously this guy didn't know what the fuck he was talking about
rfrantzt 3 years ago 2
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No, didn't happen, rather, the crowds left EMPTY. It was an empty victory.... a grave mistake, and everyone knew it. The crowds left walking with their heads low. Hummm.... guess the acceptance speech didn't sound quite the promising song. Even the media stood like they just got duped.
SantaCruzProLife 3 years ago
Actually the crowds leaving Grant Park were pretty happy: watch?v=VYPJehk9H6c.
Maybe you should stop projecting your own bitterness onto other people and go on with your life. You'll have another chance to elect a right wing nutjob in 4 years. You won't win, but it's worth a try.
cjk002 3 years ago
Well said
Circuit7Active 3 years ago
Damn those crazy riots are really a huge! Fear mongering didnt work this time. lol hooliganism
xJimboTheHippox 3 years ago 4
Not exactly riots here in Madison. Although there were a lot of drunks out.
TheSandsOfTime60 3 years ago
like always lol
GamerJerks 3 years ago
How about them riots? I think I torched about five stores while I was celebrating...
InnerCityBlues 3 years ago 3
yup, those post-election riots sure were something alright. oh wait ...
mwtoews 3 years ago 2
No matter who won, Obama or McCain, I would have stood behind them as our president, even though I voted for Obama. I respect both men, as they are doing what most people aren't cut out for, running for the highest office in our country. Not ALL Obama supporters are "bleeding hearts" or "blacks who just want a black in office." Just like all McCain supporters aren't "racist" or "bible clutching gun toting freaks." It's a stereotype for "some."
teamjustice99 3 years ago
So! Where are the riots this uncle Tom predicted? He needs to get off his high horse and stop looking down his nose at other Blacks.
Using one of his hero's words, this jerk " misunderestimated" his own people.
Now he can slink off and keep kissing the asses of his conservative backers.
bombero42 3 years ago 2
so, Bob, still waiting for that "surge" of vandalism videos?
obspot 3 years ago 4
The minute Obama won, the thugs came out. They are the only ones who continue racism. They proceed with life as a victim, perhaps because it's easier than working hard? I don't know. But the way they respond to this will not go unnoticed by the nation and the world. I think Obama himself would be humiliated by the actions and responses already witnessed. They want to be respected, but act so disrespectfully....and still don't quite understand that.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I don't doubt that somewhere someone ignorant will do something stupid. But as a person who attended the rally in Grant park, I can say it was beautiful, and NOONE did anything negative of the sorts. It was a diverse crowd of people there with a common interest.
teamjustice99 3 years ago 2
What's interesting is if you don't support Obama because of his policies (abortion, gay marriage, distribution of others' income) many simply call me a "racist white bitch"...
That is the tone I think that keeps racism alive...from the perspective of someone who is basically a conservative and would've been proud to vote for a black CONSERVATIVE, it looks pretty ghetto...and I think is what continues the racist thoughts about blacks..because of that behavior. It's such a shame...:-(
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Again, I am sure there are people like that, just as there are people for McCain who would never even THINK of voting for Obama because he's black, not because of his policies. Your statements above also keep racism alive. If we as AMERICANS decide to be the better person, look inside of ourselves and hold ourselves individually and as a group to higher standards, then we might be able to start making some changes.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Well, I'm sure liberals would love us to allow someone to spew tht kind of self-hating language out there, undisputed, and unchallenged. But when they are recycling their own hatred, I'm going to present that to them...I did so in a respectful way, and I will continue to do it. Someone has to care enough about them to tell them the truth about what their doing to hurt their own cause, otherwise it just continues. I'm putting a stop to it as I am able. I'm not just going to sit on the sidelines.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Not asking you to sit on the sidelines, just pointing out that spitting hatred back isn't the answer. That kind of battle is cyclical and noone ever actually "gets it." As long as we challenge prejudice and hatred of all kinds coming from ALL people, then we are on the road to becoming better as people. Doing so with grace and intelligence is a lot harder than matching ignorance with ignorance.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Spitting hatred? That's a bit much.
I'm presenting facts I experienced. When someone calls me a "white racist bitch" because I don't support Obama's liberal agenda, I would label that as "thug behavior", and presenting that fact as truth is not being prejudice...it's simply stating a fact. These particular supporters demonstrated thug behavior...that was actually a diplomatic way of putting it, considering the language that was used by them.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I think we are speaking about two different things, to be honest. I didn't say "YOU" were spitting hatred. It is not right for someone to call you a "white racist bitch" because you don't support Obama's views. That's just plain ignorant. As for it being "thug" behavior, I don't know. If someone tried to bash you over the head because of your views that to me is "thug" behavior, but it's all a matter of personal definition. Either way, both is wrong.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Additionally, it's very unfortunate that some Obama supporters believe that is acceptable behavior, and what being a black person is all about...I simply allow it on the table for discussion, rather than hide it to spare them embarrassment. When they behave as thugs do, it's not surprising when that term comes up...they should expect to be labeled in such a matter when their behavior warrants it. I for one, will not seek to reward their behavior simply because you happen to agree with them.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
This is not about tit for tat. McCain supporters have shown their fair share of ignorance and unacceptable behavior, as well. That's not the point. What I AM trying to say is it takes us as PEOPLE to move beyond that form of communication, to not meet ignorance with ignorance. In the end, what does that solve? Nothing. Challenge ignorance. So they want to call you a racist white bitch? Why? Because you don't support Obama? Tell me why I should then? People need to be made to THINK.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
And when those people who are prejudice against blacks who voted for McCain makes their remarks, I challenge that as well. I could sit with my hands folded neatly in my lap or I can challenge the mentalities that keep us all from becoming the nation we could be.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I guess my question would be why are these things being said to someone calling another person a "racist white bitch"...instead they're being said to someone calling out a thug who approached her. Where was it I heard "Do not try to remove a splinter in your brother's eye when you have a log in your own"....I know typically liberals do not respect or appreciate what Jesus had to say, but it would seem to me you would need to start giving advice to your fellow O/supporters first...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I am not "giving advice" I thought we were having a discussion. I don't have anything wrong with you calling this person a "thug." That's your perception. And if that person who called you a racist white bitch was online, I would be having this conversation with them, as well. What I have been trying to ask you (obviously unsuccessfully) is how your approach actually helped or moved towards improving the situation? And I don't just discuss racial relations with Obama supporters, but with all.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Then perhaps look around on YouTube and begin discussing it with those in your own house first. When you skip on over to someone else's house...it comes across as lacking integrity. Who couldn't do that? Is it not the larger challenge to change from within?
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
When an Obama supporter attacks a McCain supporter with that kind of low class vocabulary, and you want to discuss it with the one attacked, it seems quite hypocritical. Shouldn't you be starting with your own party? Shouldn't your team represent all you talk about BEFORE you try to persuade others to behave as you would like them to? Is it that you don't hold hope for those on your own team? Take a look around, and perhaps begin the conversion from the inside. It would appear more geniune.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I'm not talking to a PARTY, I'm talking to you. An individual. I am not defined by a party, I am defined by my beliefs. Again, I was approaching you as an individual, not a political activist from EITHER side.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Passing right by them to go to the other side and holding "intelligent discussions"...is ridiculous. Deal with your problems, then you will have good reason to complain to the other side. As for me, when someone attacks me that way, I will call them out on it. I will let them know exactly how they are represeting themselves to the world...and you outta be too...not looking the other way as you walk past them to advise the other side.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
This is EXACTLY why things are so slow to change. I don't see where I ever claimed EITHER side. I was simply addressing YOU. But I sense you are already on the defensive and can't see when someone is just trying to have an open conversation. Please excuse my mistake and have a great day. I do wish you well.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Indeed, you came to me with the plea to being intelligent conversation with those in your party who behave disgracefully. My point is begin with you...being with those in your party who are behaving badly...it's just too easy to start with the party you don't agree with. Take responsibilty for those in your party who don't represent you well. Fix things at home first.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Listen Friend,
When a parent sees her child hit another kid on the playground,and the other child hits back, which child should the parent go after?She should go after her child, because she is first responsible for own child's behavior. Then she should explain to that child "If you hit people, they will not like that, and some will hit back"
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
The parent should not start by complaining about the other child, but first correct the behavior of her own, because guess what? If her child stops hitting people, the problem goes away.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
It seems if that parent was you, you would walk past your child, and have a discussion with the other child on how to properly deal with hitting children by showing grace and forgiveness...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
No that's dealing with children, who are taught and given their first guidance from their parent. I was speaking to an adult (I think.)
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Uh oh...I sense the tone changing because you are the recipient of some advice...okay look...I'll make it simple.
Start with those who voted for Obama, as you did, and are acting disgracefully and making the African American community look very very bad. Then when you are successful in getting them to stop the bleeding, come on back and we can talk about how the conservatives behave...how's that?
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
My "tone" is not changing, I have ALWAYS held the same tone and same statements, I just am not the type of person that enjoys e-fights. I came to you talking about the behaviors from BOTH sides, not one. And as for the AA community, I'd suggest you think about the fact that some do not represent ALL. When will the stereotyping end? And again, why would I only focus on helping out a "group" of people and just simply care about ALL people?
teamjustice99 3 years ago
First perhaps, you should get your child to stop hitting other children. I know with what your house is dealing with, that's a tall order, and it must be much easier coming after people who are simply defending their character, but it's still wrong...obviously easy...but pretty hypocritical...and I will continue to defend my character against those kind of "children".
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Again, assuming I am speaking for a PARTY of people when I am speaking as an individual and about a much larger scheme than just the Repub. and Democ.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
If this is true, then begin with those who have the worse offense.
"Racist White Bitch"
"Thug"....
Let's See...Looks pretty easy to me...
Let me confirm earlier what I said...I will defend my character against someone who acts disgracefully. If you are uncomfortable with that...talk to them about attacking people's character. I'm off to work...but would love to discuss this further anytime after that.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
So, if the word "thug" offends you, my advice to you would be to begin with those who's words began this thing with "racist white bitch"...that would be a great start. Because you never would've heard a complaint from me had those words not been hurled my way to begin all this. Start at home...parent. When you have that under control, you can start teaching the class on proper behavior on the playground.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I never stated the word "thug" offended me. It's just a word, which I have a different meaning of than you. Also, please stop being condescending. You have taken EVERYTHING that I have presented to you and went on major defensive. Maybe you were just too hurt by being called a "racist white bitch." Maybe it struck a nerve, because you are acting like "I" said it. I had no ill will towards you other than to discuss with you, instead you are telling me to go "fix my people."
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Well dear friend, you REPLIED to me when I made that comment. When you begin a conversation with me, I will respond...if you want to call that "defensive"...you can twist it however you like. But I will respond. If you don't want a discussion about things you bring up...don't bring them up.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I sure did reply to you, because I thought your comment was interesting and worth discussion. My mistake for reading too much into it and thinking you would be open to discuss not attack with "go fix "your" house, go talk to "your" children, etc. My fault for trying to open a dialogue with someone who "happens" to be a McCain supporter. My fault for thinking you were an individual first and a Republican somewhere after that.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
My my my....easy to get "DEFENSIVE" when challenged....perhaps you should follow your own advice.
Before you automatically interpret everything I said as racist...let me be very clear, and I'm not sure how much easier I can make this:
If an Obama supporter wants "change"...begin that change within the group of people who are chanting "change"..and then come prove it to us unbelievers...:-)
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Ok sunneyskys. Have a good day.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Start with that...I think you'll be much more effective when it comes time to have an "open-minded discussion" with those your fellow Obama supporters are attacking. Prove to us unbelievers that you have the answer so we can then SEE it...not just debate it.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
No problem. Hopefully one day you as well will join in helping change our country for the better.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
And if you see someone today say "Hey racist white bitch" out of absolutely nowhere...
help them join you in changing our country for the better...
Don't just give them a "pass" or expect others to understand, overlook, and excuse...
Expect from them the kind of behavior you advise those who oppose your agenda to exhibit. Expect from them the kind of change you are preaching to the world about, after all...it starts with you...:)
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I do my part. No doubt about that. Now that you have given me my lines, what should your be?
teamjustice99 3 years ago
And to summarize:
Chanting "racist white bitch" is not the kind of change we expect from you guys
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
You are acting like a victim. Was that right for that person to say? Hell NO. However, the easy road is to say "THEY need to do all the changing, I will sit back, my feelings are hurt, etc." That person was IGNORANT. If not you than someone else (and if I was there I most CERTAINLY would have schooled them otherwise) would put them in their place. BUT what about YOU? What are YOU going to do to make things change? Were you satisfied with the way things have been? Maybe change isn't for you.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
When an fellow Obama supporter initiates a conversation with "Racist White Bitch"
You, being their fellow Obama supporter would simply begin by saying:
"That's not the kind of change we were talking about"...and continue a "discussion" about how "that kind of comment does not convince those conservatives who do not believe in Obama that we have the real answer. It simply represents that we are an angry group of people who cannot argue effectively and that doesn't make us look very good"
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Very well said.
I believe in Obama's message. However, I do not think he is the only one capable of making a difference, of bringing about change. I believe it is up to us all, you as well as myself, to do it. One doesn't have to believe in Obama to believe in making a positive change.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
On the contrary...Obama chanted "change, and yes we can"...from the beginning...He is now the poster child for change...if we needed change so very desperately...let's see what you have to offer...
Lead by example...you desperately pleaded to give you the chance to bring change.
Now bring it.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Oh geez. Instead of doing your part as a human being to bring about change, you shall sit back on your laurels and wait for people to "bring it?" I agree he is the poster child for change. But he is not able to do it by himself. He also spoke about personal accountability. If you want to sit back and wait for it to come to you that is your peragotive.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
I'm sorry he promised change...already you guys are giving excuses as to why now, after 3 days...change is impossible?
I've not changed my life whatsoever...I continue to support the causes I've always supported...
I'm looking to see now what kind of change you all were talking about...and so far, I'm not very impressed...will continue to watch though...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Well then change is not for you. I have always worked to bridge gaps and open communication lines WAY before Obama stepped into the ring, and I will continue for as long as I live. It is something I believe in and will support.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
If the man couldn't bring change...he shouldn't have promised it...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Um bush promise WMD. Where are they?
teamjustice99 3 years ago
It's also not the brightest idea for ANY person to put full stock in one MAN. It takes a lot more than one person to change a broken system. However, I am at least willing to give him a shot to try and fix it. It's sounding like you're just bitter McCain lost.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Hey hey, friend...don't get bent out of shape...it's simple.
Your man promised change...I'm looking for it...it's really pretty simple when you think about it.
So far, I've heard
Racist white bitch.
Then I heard instead of you condemning that, coming to me to "understand"
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Please don't base the actions of one ignorant individual on the entire population. That is simply unfair. And please excuse me if you misunderstood the way I speak. I NEVER meant to come off as thinking you being called that as acceptable. I was trying to point out how it's wrong, but instead of meeting ignorance with ignorance, to meet it with intelligence. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
You really should be pointing it out to those who instigate that behavior...not to those receiving it...we already know that.
For someone who consistantly ripped Bush and all he did keeping this country safe...promising to change all the wrongs of this country...
I think it is now upon him to make the change happen. I have my convictions and will continue to work hard towards the issues that are important to me...that will never change...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I already said that I DO and will continue to. Does that mean I should not have conversations with people like yourself? Don't get me wrong, just because I talked to you doesn't mean I don't talk to the people you are referencing. It doesn't open lines of communication if you ONLY talk to one "side."
teamjustice99 3 years ago
It has been... interesting commenting with you. Take care.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
So all I'm saying is:
I'm not impressed. I would like to see some positive change...
not excues...
not giving people passes...
not going back on promises....
CHANGE...as promised.
I'll keep watching and hope for the best.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
And I urge you to not just sit back but to work with us, not just "democrats." but with us, other PEOPLE to bring about positive change. It cannot be done alone. Don't do it for "Obama" or his administration, but as a decent human being. Peace.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
But he RIPPED Bush and his supporters...so it is upon him now to deliver on his promises...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
To this I say again:
teamjustice99 3 years ago
And I urge you to not just sit back but to work with us, not just "democrats." but with us, other PEOPLE to bring about positive change. It cannot be done alone. Don't do it for "Obama" or his administration, but as a decent human being. Peace.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Did you work with President Bush when he worked day and night to protect this country?
Did you work with us when Barak was demeaning and insulting our President?
Working with us goes both ways...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Actually I did. I was active duty in the Army during President Bush. So YES. I did work day and night protecting this country. NO DOUBT.
Did I fall for all of the mudslinging GOING BOTH WAYS?? No. I have a mind, I chose to filter for MYSELF. Now. Did YOU work with president Bush when he worked day and night for this country?
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Yes, I prayed for you while you were over there and supported you here.
When Barak wanted to cut off your supplies, I spoke out against that...
When Barak maligned our President, I supported him openly....
When Barak called babies a punishment, I supported their right to life.
Shall I go on or do you get the picture?
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I respectfully disagree with your statements. There are MANY MANY soldiers who back Obama. And it's also true that many things he said has been taken out of context or not given the full picture; JUST LIKE FOR MCCAIN.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
It's all said and done. The nice thing about our country is we can disagree with our president and still be for our country. I don't agree with you on many points, but hopefully when it comes to standing for our country and ALL the citizens in it, we can at least be united in that. I am off to the movies. Take care.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Don't worry...us conservatives will be here working away...:-D Enjoy your movie.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I doubt only "conservatives" will bw working away. It's that divisive tone that turns many people away from conservatives.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Yep...we conservatives are the ONLY ones workin'...yep indeedy
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I'm guessing you're being sarcastic, because I didn't take you for being just plain stupid.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
So wrong...Us conservatives are the only ones who have to multi-task...
I've been multi-tasking all morning...for the sake of completing this debate...ya think you could've taken your blackberry in with you or something...geeeze.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I disagree. I'm not conservative, but I multi-task all the time. Well, except at the movies ;)
teamjustice99 3 years ago
"I disagree. I'm not conservative, but I multi-task all the time. Well, except at the movies ;) "
Yes well...I hope "W" was entertaining...
And if I get another "white racist bitch" comment, I'll send her on to you...k? You can have that little talk with her. Yes YOU!!
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Actually I took my son to see Madagascar, not "W." Feel free to send people my way if you are unable to handle that kind of situation with grace and intelligence; I will be glad to handle it. But anywho, I again wish you the best, I won't belittle you like I feel you have started doing to me.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Wow, what a twist...okay..I'll be very very clear here...
1. YOU responded to me advising me that I added to the racism problem by calling out an Obama supporter for calling me a white racist bitch..remember?... and that it would be best to handle situations with more intelligence than that, completely disregarding the fact she called me what she did...it was worse that I referred to her as a "thug". (That, my friend, would be a judgement.)
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
2. YOU claimed that you speak to fellow O/supporters as well about your concerns of bad behavior...so on behalf of your balance and fairness...you can have her to speak to with my blessings. And I expect that you will completely set her straight as you attempted to do with me, righttt????
Because after all...it isn't about who's side we're on....riggghhhhtttt???? Of course.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
3. Not sure what you're referring to with regard to being sarcastic/being stupid...not at all sure where that came from.
4. No one is belittling anyone??? At least it is not my intention to...I certainly cannot speak for you.
5. Yes, we did come full circle...YOU began the judgement session with judging my comment, and then ended it w/asking me to allow God to judge...that would be full circle, my dear.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
"Team"...show some "justice" here man...:-)
You replied to my comment...dearest....
did you think I wasn't going to respond to that thoughtfully...or....???
Also...I saw your comment on your channel...and I quote:
"Obama wins. Suck it up."
I was simply stunned...I was leaning to alllmmmooossssttt buy the whole "I really am on everyone's side" thing....
tsk tsk...siiggghhhhh.....it was a good thing I was sitting down...she said wiping a tear away...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Okay...to summarize...I'm very happy that you are happy with the results of the election, having said that please know that if you reply to a comment I make giving me advice on how to conduct myself when your brothers and sisters in "O" are completely out of control..this all is going to start all over again...right?
So...why not just leave it with...you can be happy that your man is in, and I can be happy that I don't rely on govt..so I'll be just fine too...:-) and.....
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
If...one of your O/siblings approaches me in a disrespectful fashion, I will indeed call them on it. If that means to aptly title them a "thug"...then...so be it. Perhaps they shouldn't behave like a thug...is what I'm thinkin', but then we'd have to go into the whole playground thing again.
I'm very happy for you that you most likely enjoyed your movie...and perhaps you should go see "W" this weekend to top it off...I hear it's pretty enjoyable. Have a great weekend...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Yup. Obama won. Suck it up. Of course, you don't know the whole context of that conversation either. You have a great weekend as well.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Just as you didn't know the whole conversation I had participated in when you decided to ADVISE me on proper behavior...LOL
Oh my gosh!!
Could it be??
Full circle once again!!!
Notice however, the difference...
I didn't advise you...merely shared my disappointment...big difference.
So here we are...back to my original complaint...
You shouldn't give advice on matters you haven't been thoroughly briefed on...
Tahh Dahhh!!!!!!!! ;)
Brilliance...!! LOL
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Ok sunneyskys. The point being I opened up to have a conversation with you. My mistake because it has been combative in a way that is non productive. But, I am smart enough to recognize when it's not a conversation, just a "I WIN! YOU'RE WRONG! I'M RIGHT!" situation. And that to me is not worth it and goes against the purpose of talking about the issue with the ability to work towards understanding each other. Truly, from behind my computer screen to yours, be well my friend.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Oh Team...
And my point has been all along that the conversation should have been brought up with the purpertrator...not me.
But since you chose to bring it up with me in a "look, this is the way you ought to handle things"...kind of way...that's how the conversation took form, and went.
There was no understanding at that point that was needed between you and I...between Thug and I, yes...but that's not going to be accomplished when Thug is not being confronted about her behavior.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Since you have deemed yourself "smart enough to recognize" elements of our discussion...then recognize what I've been saying all along....it seems that's being skipped over...but alas..it's a listening thing. If you truly want to "understand each other" listening is necessary...there hasn't been a whole lot of that from you, if I may say...just a need to advise, and then say "Oh forget it...you obviously don't want to improve yourself" when I don't buy what you're selling.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
What I've been trying to communicate all along is personal responsibility is crucial to bring everyone together as you state you want to do. When you bipass your sibling to come to the other side and give advise...it doesn't ring true. It doesn't show the integrity needed to get the job done. But I feel I could go on and on about something pretty basic and you still won't acknowledge what is being said, so hence, I try to bring you full circle so you are in my position and can see that way.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Well now we agree. Personal responsibility. I feel you are ignoring my apoligies if you did not understand my approach for dealing with a "thug." I apoligized, so why is that still being brought up. Which is why I feel like I am in a "winner loser" conversation instead of just a conversation to come to understanding. I am not looking to be in that kind of conversation because that is not where I personally am at right now.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Okay now we're getting somewhere...you have apologized that I didn't understand your approach for dealing with a thug? Is that what you are saying?
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
sunney, please go back and read what I said to you. Were you listening (well, reading to understand) during our exchanges or just waiting to jump on me?
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Okay...fair enough...but I remember your initial comment being that I am adding to the racism problem by my comments.
And that's where I have a problem. Calling someone a thug who has acted like a thug is plainly just stating a fact.
When someone is attacked, the consequences of that action is people will call you out on that, because that is a great way to confront a very bad behavior...letting them see what they look like to others is powerful.
and that's not fair.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
What I am saying, right now, is that I was wrong in choosing to respond to your comment. I looked at your comment, and your page, and thought I would be speaking to a person who is flexible and not the typical youtuber. A person with the capacity to have a open conversation. I do understand my train of thought, and I have tried to explain it, even while going back and giving my apologies if I came off a certain way and trying to explain myself better.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
In summary if you want to understand the other side...personal responsibility has to come first. You cant simply identify a problem, and advise an opponent and magically have them say "oh you're right...I'm gonna start working on that" when you are not willing to acknowledge the shortcomings on your side. It's pretty simple really, what I've been trying to say...but there doesn't seem to be any understanding coming from your end about that.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I don't think you've been hearing me at all. I have agreed with you a few times, but that has been ignored.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
With all due respect, if being in a win-lose conversation was not where you are personally at, I'm confused as to why you began your counseling session with me...you had to have known that approaching someone with advise on how to live their life would certainly bring with it some kind of defense from them....??
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Again, I am sorry you took it that way. Not my intention. But, I have already said that and you haven't acknowledged it nor moved on from it. So honestly, I am done, I recognize when we won't reach any kind of conclusion to this chat that either of us will be satisfied with. I gracefully bow out. Take care.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Well no...you haven't explained uour train of thought...if it indeed was not to simply fix the other side without addressing problems from within, you can certainly bow out now that we are getting down the crux of the issue...I guess I'm just confused as to how you thought there could be an understanding when you bow out at defining moment.
I still wish you the best...if you ever want to bring a conclusion to this discussion...feel free.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
I could go on and on in an attempt to reach understanding...but you have to want to understand...I guess.
I certainly wish you the best as well...I hope you get a chance to enjoy your weekend...I gotta go catch a seance with Nancy Reagan... ;0) Take Care...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Have fun at your seance. And please, take your own advise to me as well. Take care.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Look. My message, plain and simple. Don't stand back and do nothing. Don't generalize, don't WAIT for change. If that isn't clear enough as to what I believe, then I don't know what is. I wish no ill will, no hate to ANYONE, regardless of affiliation. I may not like a lot of what goes on, but I am not the ultimate judge, I can only be true in my heart and stand up for what I believe in, which in the end, is HUMANITY.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
I have never stood back and done nothing.
I don't hate anyone...
So there is no CHANGE for me.
As for being a judge...you all were very judgemental of Bush...so yes...you have made yourself a judge...don't stop now just because your choice is in.
Judge wisely...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Who is "You all?" Certainly you don't know what "I" believed. Again, part of the problem is grouping. There were PLENTY of people disgruntled with Bush. Polls showed MANY, including his own party, unhappy with him.
I am glad you don't need change. Many people do. I will be helping to change not just my life, but those of my people, meaning ALL people. I would suggest that you also judge wisely. Because there ultimately is only 1 judge that matters.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
The judge who is against abortion, gay marriage, and bombing ones own countrymen?
Yes, I agree with that statement. He will judge...
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Well then leave the judging to him.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
You know...this whole thing started by YOU judging ME...you do realize that don't you?
YOU responded to MY comment...and now we've come full circle which is where my target goal was...so thank you! :-)
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Actually I responded to you not in judgement, but in dialogue. If you felt judged that wasn't my intention. So, although you may feel we've come full circle, I feel we have been talking in 2 SEPARATE circles.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Ripping the other side is not an example of "working with us"...is it?
He has his chance...let him bring the change he promised.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
You take care too, friend.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
If a McCain supporter would call you or anyone else a nigger, I would say to you "that does not represent my views, or what conservative views stand for...they are speaking on their own behalf and you have every right not to be happy with that comment". What I WOULDN'T do is jump to the other side immediately and begin correcting you for defending yourself against that. How convenient that would've been!! But...utterly and completely irresponsible.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
OH so now the McCain supporters are "speaking on their own behalf" yet you tell me to go "fix my "party" and teach at home? Come on. Again. I am talking about PERSONAL responsibility. Not to a PARTY but as a person in this world. Again, I am certain this is an offensive/defensive conversation. I was sincerely hoping to have an open (non combative) conversation. I was not trying to start a fight. All I can say is I am going to do MY part to be a better person and help ALL people. Take care.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Have a non combative conversation with those who voted for Obama, as you did, and are acting ridiculous...how's that?
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
Exactly why the world is so divided. "go back and talk to your people," right? Forget "reaching across the table." Maybe there was some truth to you being called a racist. Because that divided attitude definitely doesn't speak to mending fences. Thank you for showing your true colors.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
One more thing.. Dont ASSume that I don't have these kinds of conversations with Obama supporters. Because when it comes to knocking down walls and challenging racism and stereotypes, I do not discriminate. Don't assume to know what I do simply because I talked to you online.
teamjustice99 3 years ago
Off to work...until next time.
Sunneyskys 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Black republicans are all uncle toms, because you are being used by a majority of McCain supporters that hate you, because you are black. Some things are a little more important than money and economics. How about pride, and a spine. I refuse to back a candidate whos base is speaking of killing 102 Black people, and spew racial epithets at their rallies. What would you do at your McCain rally when Bubba next to you says "Kill the nigger"? Say well I make my own money? You are all sell-outs.
Kingsta2000 3 years ago
wtf up is up with you ur a horrible black person u fucking nignorant muthafuka
lasus 3 years ago
Yeah, Obama and his supporters will bring us all together....
BlackAndRight 3 years ago
i hope fucking al red states burn to the ground
amuhahhaa
lasus 3 years ago
so if obama loses or wins were still fucked lol how lame
pred123424 3 years ago
So basically,,, WE ARE SCREWED!!!!!
DonutNinja777 3 years ago
first off, im a white male and a republican. as for your video Mr.Parks, thank you. Thank you for providing youtube viewers with a REAL TRUTHFUL outlook on the situation, not some stereotypical garbage that everyone else is posting, just to feed the fires of the "riots" to come. hopefully others watch your speech and take it all in. thanks again bob.
mikethedriver88 3 years ago