Following the Soviet occupation of Georgia South Osetia was ARTIFICIALLY created by Bolsheviks in CENTRAL GEORGIA AND old Georgian town TSKHINVALI became "CAPITTAL" OF FAKE OSSETIA (please note: by 1910 ONLY about 10% Osetians lived in Tskhinvali)
Subsequently, the town became largely Ossetian due to intense urbanization and Soviet Korenizatsiya ("nativization") policy which induced an inflow of the Ossetians into Tskhinvali.
fucking russian animals tried that with all free peoples they had aggressively conquered and they still try to force their sick imperialism on the people of chechnya among others and anyone who doesnt agree with them like georgia gets invaded FUCKING RUSSIAN BEASTS
What fucking Soviet occupation of Georgia?? Remember how your king BEGGED ON HIS FUCKING KNEES, to Tsar Pavel that Russia saves georgia from the persian empire. How your king literally SOLD his country to Russia in order for us to protect you pussy-bastards?? What fucking occupation?? You begged us to let you become a part of the Russian Empire!
In 1783 Erekle II Bagrationi, king of Kartli-Kakheti (Eastern Georgian Kingdom) signed the Treaty of Georgievsk with Russia, according to which his kingdom (including Georgian little town Tskhinvali) was to receive Russian protection. But Russians withdrew their troops from the region, leaving Erekle's kingdom unprotected. In 1795, the Persian shah, Agha Mohammed Khan, invaded the country and burnt the capital, Tbilisi, to the ground.
In 1811, the autocephaly (i.e. independent status) of the 1500 years old Orthodox Church of Iveria and Tron of the Patriarch was abolished by "orthodox" Russian Government, the Catholicos-Patriarch Anton II was deported to Russia.
After the conquest of Western Georgian Kingdom by Imperial Russia in 1810, the last king and the last Georgian Bagrationi ruler Solomon II fled to the Ottoman possessions in Trabzond where he died in 1815.
In 1814, the Western Georgian Patriarchate of Abkhazia-Imeretia was also abolished by the Russian "orthodox" authorities and annexed to the Exarchate of Georgia, a subdivision of the Russian Orthodox Church, whose part it was until the restoration of the unified and autocephalous Georgian Orthodox Church in 1917
If it wasnt for Russia you hairy monkeys would all have been raped in your fucking ass and murdered by the the persians and the ottomans in th 19th century. GEORGIANS WOULDNT EXIST AS A NATION!! We saved your lives you motherfuckers! Your king george XII cried like a little baby begging PavelI and later AlexanderI for us to save you. You screamed and cried and begged us to save you because you were Orthodox too.
After Erekle's and George XII's death, Tsar Paul I of Russia signed a decree on the incorporation of Eastern Georgia (Kartli-Kakheti) within the Russian Empire, which was confirmed by Tsar Alexander I on September 12, 1801.
The Georgian Royal envoy in Saint Petersburg, Garsevan Chavchavadze, reacted with a note of protest that was presented to the Russian vice-chancellor Alexander Kurakin.
In May 1801 Russian General Carl Heinrich Knorring removed the Georgian heir to the throne David Bagrationi from power and deployed a provisional government headed by General Ivan Petrovich Lasarev.
Georgian nobility did not accept the decree until April 1802 when General Knorring held the nobility in Tbilisi's Sioni Cathedral and forced them to take an oath on the imperial crown of Russia. Those who disagreed were arrested.
Newly established Russian administration started deporting the members of 1300 year old Georgian Royal Dynasty Bagrationi to Russia.
On April 22, 1803, the Russian soldiers arrived at Queen's mansion and General Lazarev ordered Mariam (Maria, the Last Queen of Eastern Georgia) to get up and be ready for departure, but the queen refused to follow him.
The general then took hold of her foot, to make her rise from the cushion on which she was sitting, surrounded by her sleeping children. Mariam, indignant at the attempt to take her by force, drew the dagger from beneath the cushion and stabbed Lazarev, killing him on the spot. Lazarev's interpreter drew his saber, and gave her a wound in the head, so that she fell down insensible.
The soldiers burst into the bedroom and arrested the queen and her children. Escorted by a considerable armed force, they were carried away to Russia through the Daryal Pass. During her passage through Georgia, the inhabitants came out to testify their loyalty to the queen and bade her farewell.
The tragic story of Georgian Queen Mariam was described in several contemporary accounts, based on the reports of eye-witnesses, and found its place in European literature of that time.
President Medvedev visited Brazil...low profile man! When he was to drink a glass of water in a meeting with São Paulo governor his (Medvedev's) security staff demanded another glass to pour water in. The governor drank the water (of the first glass) without noticing the swap but everything was fine. The governor didn't die.
And while you, poor americans are crying, we will win in all championships, including "Miss World", "Hockey World Championship", "Basketball European Championship", "UEFA Cup", "SuperCup", "World Chess Championship", "Davies Cup" and thousands of more! US are LOOSERS, and because of it you are crying and envy! Crazy blind nation...
P.S. Before writing any bullshit, try to find at least ANY FACTS and SOURCES, or you will be shame your nation again and again)))
On last week UN accepted resolution by Russian initiative. Resolution was "against glorification of fascism (including Waffen SS) in Europe". About 130 countries voted FOR, only 2 countries - AGAINST - Marshall Islands and ..guess who?.. U-S-A!
HAHA) It explains all. USA is FOR glorification of fascism! By the way, no surprise, looking at their actions in foreign policy. They are REALYY FASCISTS, and you are dumb, if you can't accept this fact.
thats only cause its german fascism and germans were against russia. russian fascism exists today with ur fuhrer putin who is a dictator and kills innocent chechen people
why do u automatically assume I support america? what kind of gullible fool are you anyway? this is what happens to dumb uneducated peasants in countries like yours. everyone who criticizes the glorious government is associated with america and america is the great evil in the world
I do NOT support america idiot I support a free and fair society as is the case in EUROPE
lol. I should know more than you. I live in a free country and I get the true news. you live in a tightly controlled society where all media is being censored by the government. all u know is what the government propagandists allow you to know.
how can u call russia facist?Russia has never had facist state unlike Europe for example in Spain, Italy,Germany.YEs we have had dictatorships.But for country like Russia,big and with different nationalities and religions strong goverment is the only option.We r not Denmark nor UK.We already had western style democracy in 1990s wich was the worst and unstable time in recent history.Sure there IS certan degree of cencorship in Russia.But if you look what happens in american media its way worse.
Are you really dumb idiot? You never was in Russia, and have only 0,01 % information about life here. Just why stupid idiots think that they know all better than others?
You proved that you are moron, because you didn't know about UN resolution. What stops me to think that you know NOTHING about reality? Just another critine, brainwashed by Mass Media. What a clown...
there are thousands of UN resolutions. most of them worthless shit that doesnt do anything or that no one listens to...
this particularly unimportant resolution was of course portrayed to be a great historical event because the great glorious leader premier supreme president general of the peoples council putin played a part in it.
u russians are very susceptible to propaganda. first after the weak and worthless czars, then the psychopathic schizophrenic communists and now putin
AHAHA) Trolls are attacking) Morons without ANY FACTS try to prove something? What a FUCKIN' joke! <:
Even USA investigation accepted that SUKASHVILI bombed Tskinvalli. I even don't say about THOUSANDS other facts, like recognitions of British members of OSCE.
But the main proof - is that THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SANCTION AGAINST RUSSIA! HAHA)
Don't think that all world are idiots. All understand very well that it was planned operation under US order to provoke Russia by killing people.
Chechens deserve nothing but a good asswhooping for disrespecting the hospitality we treated them with for the last 200+ years on OUR Russian land. If they want independance they should move back to wherever they came from and be happily independant there!
Same story all over again. Im fucking tired of this S.Ossetia talk. South Ossetia never was Georgian. Stalin as a Georgian made South Ossetia a part of Georgia so Russia would have 1 less region to worry about. During USSR South Ossentians lived in peace cause they were part of a great country. After the fall of the Soviet Union, South Ossetians rightfully asked for independance since they want to live with North Ossetians and not with Georgians who treat them like shit. They deserve freedom!
No it doesnt. You say that because you dont know the history of Chechnya. Chechnya was nothing but steps and mountains when Russian colinized it in the beginning of the 18th century. Only over 100 years later a tribe now known as 'chechens' came to live in that region. Historians suppose they fled from the neighbourhood of Iran. We let them live on our land as long as they dont make trouble. So we welcomed them on our land, we built Chechnya and now they say its their land?? Please fuck off!
lol did you make that up or is that really what russian media tells you? Chechnya was part of the Ottoman empire in the 15th century, when the inhabitants converted to islam under turkish influence. Near the end of the 18th century the russian imperialists with their european technology attacked the ottoman empire and persia to steal more land. this is when the chchen people started being oppressed by the european invaders and they are still being oppressed today by the successor state russia
Are you really a moron?? Those were regions which now are the most southern parts of the Chechen republic. These regions were maybe 10% of the full size of todays Chechen republic.
What parts of Chechnya have we given away to the Georgians?? What the fuck has Chechnya to do with Georgia?? Chechnya is Russian land and South Ossetia as a whole country has to be independant. It has nothing to do with Georgia, nor is it rightfully part of Georgia.
u crazy commies displaced millions and redrew all maps. its ur fault its such a mess! if chechen republic wants independence its cause they dont benefit from putins economic plans, only russians do, so let them be independent and decide their own destiny.
OMG what a MORON. Of course in US propoganda it was shown as "kind Chechens just want to be independent", but your media NEVER SHOES THAT THIS "kind Chechens" were international terrorists, who killed CHECHENS in Chechnya and Dagestan.
MORONS, LEARN HISTORY BEFORE WRITING STUPID DUMB SHITTY COMMENTS)) LOLZZZZZ
Your opinions are NOTHING, because normal and adequate people know this situation and DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT MORON'S OPINIONS))
So, if Ossetians of CENTRAL GEORGIAN SAMACHABLO (so called s.osethia) want freedom, thay should go back to the NORTH CAUCASUS where they came from and be independant there - in Alania!!!
Today, there is an obvious manifold instrumentalization of the minorities by Russia for the purpose of destroying the Georgian state.
On March 15, 1918, the Ossetian peasants in Georgia rose in rebellion. The fighting culminated in the town of Tskhinvali which was raided by the rebels on March 19, 1918. Tskhinvalis Georgian and "Ebraeli" population was massacred and the town was looted by ossetians(Please note: at that time only about 10% Ossetians lived in old Georgian town Tskhinvali).
This is just standard Russian method: use the presence of ethnic minorities "autonomni oblast" in various neighboring countries (planted there during Soviet times) as an excuse to beat up on small neighbors who don't toe the Kremlin line.
Russians have been using all kinds of excuses to park their tanks on Georgian soil - Abkazia and fake Ossetia (real ossetia-Alania is another part of Caucasus).
Sure the Russians end goal is Georgia as a vassal of Moscow. Well screw that noise - until the Georgians cross over into RUSSIAN space (and nobody says that they have) this was a Russian invasion, pure and simple!
The spammer above only looks desperate by repeating the same false assertions and crapping all over this thread. Seriously, even the BBC and CNN have admitted that they wrongly omitted that Georgia started the war. And "Iberi1" needs to get laid."
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Georgia has an internationally recognized right to control the territory of so called South Ossetia (central Georgia - SHIDA KARTLI). Russia needs to pull out!
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Yes, in the UK the media reported that Georgia started the war. The Russian backed separatist attacks on Georgian villages, that were in the days before, were shown or mentioned in only one report. The rest of the media completely omitted it.
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So, to claim that there is new shock evidence that Georgia might have started the war presupposes that this wasnt how it was reported in the first place.
The point is, this Luksemburg type province is full of Russian intelligence infrastructure and they have been exploiting the situation and had clearly planned for mass invasion to try to overthrow the Georgian government.
Georgia has an internationally recognized right to control the territory of so called South Ossetia (central Georgia - SHIDA KARTLI). Russia needs to pull out!
no, not quite like that already. the so called international opinion is already ready to recognize georgia with no s.ossetia and abkhasia. there is a principle of territorial integrity but there is a right for self-determination, as well. that's the reality.
Very true. The spammer above only looks desperate by repeating the same false assertions and crapping all over this thread. Seriously, even the BBC and CNN have admitted that they wrongly omitted that Georgia started the war. And "Iberi1" needs to get laid.
I guess everyones news lies but Kremlin-Putin-Medvedev's huh? Russian tanks do not protect they only take over. Georgia is and always should be free!!!
Did Russia Prepared "South Ossetian" separatists regime for War with Georgia? The answer would be YES! The separatists have continued shelling Georgian villages even during a unilateral Georgian cease fire.
The main reason for evaluating legitimacy of Russias action should not be whether democratically elected government of Georgia tried to protect its own citizens on its own soil. Instead it should be evaluated by answers to the following questions:
Was Georgia or Russia the side, which withdrew from the agreement about reducing arms on Caucasus wing one year before? Georgia complied with the agreement, while Russia sharply increased military forces, equipment, and armored equipment in the Northern Caucasus. It is absolutely clear, that there was more equipment, than needed to conduct a military operation in Chechnya or other Republics of the Caucasus. It is absolutely clear why they withdrew from that agreement.
Which country distributed passports to the population of a neighboring country, by violation of their and our constitution, in order to use it as a motive to justify intervention with intention to protect its own citizens?
Which country refused to participate in peace talks, which were organized by the European Union on July 24th and by OSCE on July 31st?
Which country refused a peace offer by Steinmeier /wiki/Frank-Walter_Steinmeier>, the foreign minister of Germany?
Who attempted to conceal its own well-planned intervention with false accusation, as if 2000 peaceful citizens were destroyed in Tskhinvali? Impartial observers of all international organizations denied this fact immediately, and later on Russias official government denied it too.
Which country started military actions in order to protest and stop genocide?
Which country started and which country conducted ethnic cleansing of population of which country?
After the conflict stopped, which country refused to comply, even with the first part of the signed seize fire agreement, requiring to protect foreseen territories and to let the European observers monitor them?
The main reason for evaluating legitimacy of Russias action should not be whether democratically elected government of Georgia tried to protect its own citizens ON ITS OWN SOIL. Instead it should be evaluated by answers to the following questions:
Was Georgia or Russia the side, which conduct factual annexation of a neighboring sovereign country?
IN THE WEEK PRIOR TO THE RUSSIAN INVASION, OSSETIAN separatists, AIDED BY Russian peacekeepers, had SHELLED & RAIDED GEORGIAN VILLAGES beyond "South Ossetia" AND KILLED INNOCENT GEORGIANS - President of Georgia, took the bait and walked into Moscows trap—he ordered Georgian forces to go in and clean out the areas OF GEORGIA where the "South Ossetian" militias were operating.
Dmitry Medvedev`s statement about starting war in Georgia has caused inhomogeneous reaction in Moscow. Part of the State Duma members says Russia had scheduled the war against Georgian aggression; another part considers, Medvedev expressed his reaction too late.
Pavel Felgenhauer, the Russian defense analyst asserts the Russian aggression had been premeditated and brings Medvedev`s statement as a proof to this.
President`s speech is an evidence for what the Georgian side has been proving for so long. Medvedev`s confession will dispel suspicions of all those sides who have not believed until now that Russia started the war in Georgia.
Georgia a victom? did u forget south ossetia how Georgia attacked a sleeping city, everyone always tries despretly to blame russia for the world probloms Im sorry to say russia did the right thing if I was medvedev I would wipe Georgia of the face of the earth but he gave mercy to Georgia after its cowerdly strike
Having created, (ARTIFICIALLY - in 1922) & funded and fully backed the South Ossetian separatist movement since the Soviet crack-up, in late July the Kremlin ordered its own puppet regime of Kokoiti to provoke the Georgians.
In the week prior to the Russian invasion, South Ossetians, aided by Russian peacekeepers, had shelled and raided Georgian villages beyond South Ossetia. President, Mikheil Saakashvili, took the bait and walked into Moscows trap—he ordered Georgian forces to go in and clean out the areas where the "South Ossetian" militias were operating.
First part of ur comment is not correct....look I am an American I know my country is supposed to be on Georgias side and it is but the american people arent.... we have been fooled by our government to many times....now bush told us that Russia invaded georgia by aggression but he did not tell us that the U.S army was training Georgians to attack south ossetia and there is hard evidence that US provoked the conflict as much as Georgia Russia was merly monitoring the situation
During the last years Russian Government was making statements against independence of Kosovo, at the same time Russians were openly supporting separatists in Georgia.
Russia has a history of causing problems in the "near abroad" and then coming to "fix" the problem.
Having created, funded and fully backed the Ossetian separatist movement in Georgia since the Soviet crack-up, in late July the Kremlin ordered its own puppet regime of "President" Kokoiti gangs (trained by Russian army) to provoke the Georgians.
IN THE WEEK PRIOR TO THE RUSSIAN INVASION, OSSETIAN separatists, AIDED BY Russian peacekeepers, had SHELLED & RAIDED GEORGIAN VILLAGES beyond South Ossetia. AND KILLED INNOCENT GEORGIANS - President of Georgia, took the bait and walked into Moscows trap—he ordered Georgian forces to go in and clean out the areas OF GEORGIA where the "South Ossetian" militias were operating.
This is so boring, so boring. I guess one thousand times they already said that there are no prooves of any russian traping and aiding separatists but there astonishing amounts of prooves which state that Saakashvilli planed and started that war. Read HRW and OSCE reports, boy. You are brainwashed by your president propaganda.
On August 6, before full scale Russian intervention, Georgian peacekeepers were killed, and that was continuation of the violence that was resorted from the begging of the month.
An intensified bombardment of the Georgian villages was continuing on that night and during the next day. Ossetian separatist artillery was mainly dislocated in Tskhinvali near positions of the Russian "peacekeepers". Commander of the "peacekeeping" forces General Kulakhmetov confirmed this fact himself.
Was Georgia or Russia the side, which withdrew from the agreement about reducing arms on Caucasus wing one year before? Georgia complied with the agreement, while Russia sharply increased military forces, equipment, and armored equipment in the Northern Caucasus. It is absolutely clear, that there was more equipment, than needed to conduct a military operation in Chechnya or other Republics of the Caucasus. It is absolutely clear why they withdrew from that agreement.
Did u forget how "south ossetian" separatists aided by russian "peacekeepers" attacked the sleeping georgian villages in the week prior to the Russian invasion?!
"the Destroyer of Grozny" There was the war, how it possible war w/o destructions? And who has moral authority? Is there any country who did not make any war? BTW Grozny was not peaceful city even when war was frozen.
RIght. But the conflict was almost cold before last escalation. Grozny was different, it was bloody pain for russia all the time, terrorism, kidnaping, explosions, capturing civilians. Did osetians do anything like it was at nordoks, Beslan, Budenovsk? probably no.
The Ossetians, whose separatist government and armed forces were effectively controlled by Russians, had for several weeks escalated the usual petty violence of kidnappings, shootings, blockades and banditry to a point where the death-rate among Georgian police was more than worrying. Georgian attack can be called a pre-emptive strike.
Just boring to discuss with you. It is your religion and can't help you. You believe one side is right, other people believe that another side is right. But there is no right side. Each side has own true, own reasons.
Russians reinforced their puppet KOKOITY regime and then provoked an incident, knowing how hot-headed Saakashvili was, and he walked right into the trap.
The West should watch carefully for a similar ploy to be used in the Ukraine.
nobody will fight to please you and make you believe in something. In georgia yankees were already fucked well. they are now being fucked in ukraine, their ways to sponsor ukrainian and georgian leaders are being cut.
Therefore, no need to fight with our brothers Slavic nations. It's only dirty assholes (which means yankees) must go to hell.
Medvedev said three times in his interview that the war was begun by Russia. He said it was his personal decision on launching the fighting in "South Ossetia".
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Medvedev has confessed that Russia had been preparing for possible war in the Caucasus before August. Medvedev retold the Russian version of the Georgia-Russia war:))
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Wake up Russians!!! Your government Stink!!!
la2lu3lp 2 years ago
Wake up Russians!!! your government stink!!!
la2lu3lp 2 years ago
Truth about Russian Georgian Conflict-roots and history by ACADEMCIAN SERGEY KOVALEV WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES
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HistoryOfMyLand 2 years ago
all his ties always seem kinda big. Especially the top part
jsadasjioi 3 years ago
Russia could win this time in world war 3.Dont underestimate their strength.We shouldnt support USA or Russia in this war because we love peace!!!.
zerosecond777 3 years ago
Pretty accurate and honest recapitulation of events from the Russian prez.
spartaknumerouno 3 years ago
Ukraine we stand with you united ;)
USA
WieGehtMeinKameraden 3 years ago
LOL Ukraine doesn't need "USA support". UShenko, official US puppet, have 4 % rating in Ukraine! Other 96 % hate this US puppet. Simple statistics.
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
Truth
LeMegasandwich 3 years ago
Following the Soviet occupation of Georgia South Osetia was ARTIFICIALLY created by Bolsheviks in CENTRAL GEORGIA AND old Georgian town TSKHINVALI became "CAPITTAL" OF FAKE OSSETIA (please note: by 1910 ONLY about 10% Osetians lived in Tskhinvali)
Subsequently, the town became largely Ossetian due to intense urbanization and Soviet Korenizatsiya ("nativization") policy which induced an inflow of the Ossetians into Tskhinvali.
Iberi1 3 years ago
fucking russian animals tried that with all free peoples they had aggressively conquered and they still try to force their sick imperialism on the people of chechnya among others and anyone who doesnt agree with them like georgia gets invaded FUCKING RUSSIAN BEASTS
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
What fucking Soviet occupation of Georgia?? Remember how your king BEGGED ON HIS FUCKING KNEES, to Tsar Pavel that Russia saves georgia from the persian empire. How your king literally SOLD his country to Russia in order for us to protect you pussy-bastards?? What fucking occupation?? You begged us to let you become a part of the Russian Empire!
rus218 3 years ago
In 1783 Erekle II Bagrationi, king of Kartli-Kakheti (Eastern Georgian Kingdom) signed the Treaty of Georgievsk with Russia, according to which his kingdom (including Georgian little town Tskhinvali) was to receive Russian protection. But Russians withdrew their troops from the region, leaving Erekle's kingdom unprotected. In 1795, the Persian shah, Agha Mohammed Khan, invaded the country and burnt the capital, Tbilisi, to the ground.
Iberi1 3 years ago
In 1811, the autocephaly (i.e. independent status) of the 1500 years old Orthodox Church of Iveria and Tron of the Patriarch was abolished by "orthodox" Russian Government, the Catholicos-Patriarch Anton II was deported to Russia.
After the conquest of Western Georgian Kingdom by Imperial Russia in 1810, the last king and the last Georgian Bagrationi ruler Solomon II fled to the Ottoman possessions in Trabzond where he died in 1815.
Iberi1 3 years ago
In 1814, the Western Georgian Patriarchate of Abkhazia-Imeretia was also abolished by the Russian "orthodox" authorities and annexed to the Exarchate of Georgia, a subdivision of the Russian Orthodox Church, whose part it was until the restoration of the unified and autocephalous Georgian Orthodox Church in 1917
Iberi1 3 years ago
If it wasnt for Russia you hairy monkeys would all have been raped in your fucking ass and murdered by the the persians and the ottomans in th 19th century. GEORGIANS WOULDNT EXIST AS A NATION!! We saved your lives you motherfuckers! Your king george XII cried like a little baby begging PavelI and later AlexanderI for us to save you. You screamed and cried and begged us to save you because you were Orthodox too.
rus218 3 years ago
After Erekle's and George XII's death, Tsar Paul I of Russia signed a decree on the incorporation of Eastern Georgia (Kartli-Kakheti) within the Russian Empire, which was confirmed by Tsar Alexander I on September 12, 1801.
The Georgian Royal envoy in Saint Petersburg, Garsevan Chavchavadze, reacted with a note of protest that was presented to the Russian vice-chancellor Alexander Kurakin.
Iberi1 3 years ago
In May 1801 Russian General Carl Heinrich Knorring removed the Georgian heir to the throne David Bagrationi from power and deployed a provisional government headed by General Ivan Petrovich Lasarev.
Georgian nobility did not accept the decree until April 1802 when General Knorring held the nobility in Tbilisi's Sioni Cathedral and forced them to take an oath on the imperial crown of Russia. Those who disagreed were arrested.
Iberi1 3 years ago
Newly established Russian administration started deporting the members of 1300 year old Georgian Royal Dynasty Bagrationi to Russia.
On April 22, 1803, the Russian soldiers arrived at Queen's mansion and General Lazarev ordered Mariam (Maria, the Last Queen of Eastern Georgia) to get up and be ready for departure, but the queen refused to follow him.
Iberi1 3 years ago
The general then took hold of her foot, to make her rise from the cushion on which she was sitting, surrounded by her sleeping children. Mariam, indignant at the attempt to take her by force, drew the dagger from beneath the cushion and stabbed Lazarev, killing him on the spot. Lazarev's interpreter drew his saber, and gave her a wound in the head, so that she fell down insensible.
Iberi1 3 years ago
The soldiers burst into the bedroom and arrested the queen and her children. Escorted by a considerable armed force, they were carried away to Russia through the Daryal Pass. During her passage through Georgia, the inhabitants came out to testify their loyalty to the queen and bade her farewell.
Iberi1 3 years ago
The tragic story of Georgian Queen Mariam was described in several contemporary accounts, based on the reports of eye-witnesses, and found its place in European literature of that time.
Iberi1 3 years ago
President Medvedev visited Brazil...low profile man! When he was to drink a glass of water in a meeting with São Paulo governor his (Medvedev's) security staff demanded another glass to pour water in. The governor drank the water (of the first glass) without noticing the swap but everything was fine. The governor didn't die.
sertaobelo 3 years ago
And while you, poor americans are crying, we will win in all championships, including "Miss World", "Hockey World Championship", "Basketball European Championship", "UEFA Cup", "SuperCup", "World Chess Championship", "Davies Cup" and thousands of more! US are LOOSERS, and because of it you are crying and envy! Crazy blind nation...
P.S. Before writing any bullshit, try to find at least ANY FACTS and SOURCES, or you will be shame your nation again and again)))
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
Im not american fool Im european and here we respect all peoples unlike ur fascist dictatorship
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
LOL Yous brains are deeply brainwashed, I am sorry for such persons, who never use facts, and only can accuse others. LOOSERS.
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
Some facts for you, dumb idiot.
On last week UN accepted resolution by Russian initiative. Resolution was "against glorification of fascism (including Waffen SS) in Europe". About 130 countries voted FOR, only 2 countries - AGAINST - Marshall Islands and ..guess who?.. U-S-A!
HAHA) It explains all. USA is FOR glorification of fascism! By the way, no surprise, looking at their actions in foreign policy. They are REALYY FASCISTS, and you are dumb, if you can't accept this fact.
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
thats only cause its german fascism and germans were against russia. russian fascism exists today with ur fuhrer putin who is a dictator and kills innocent chechen people
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
LOL you are funny, moron. How about 1,000,000 dead civillians in Iraq? It always funny to hear shitty opinion without any facts))
Good luck in spreading your idiocrasy, clown) The truth with Russia and you know it, looser.
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
why do u automatically assume I support america? what kind of gullible fool are you anyway? this is what happens to dumb uneducated peasants in countries like yours. everyone who criticizes the glorious government is associated with america and america is the great evil in the world
I do NOT support america idiot I support a free and fair society as is the case in EUROPE
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
Nobody accuse "free and fair society", idiot. I just give you facts and prove that you know nothing about reality, and especially about Russia.
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
lol. I should know more than you. I live in a free country and I get the true news. you live in a tightly controlled society where all media is being censored by the government. all u know is what the government propagandists allow you to know.
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
how can u call russia facist?Russia has never had facist state unlike Europe for example in Spain, Italy,Germany.YEs we have had dictatorships.But for country like Russia,big and with different nationalities and religions strong goverment is the only option.We r not Denmark nor UK.We already had western style democracy in 1990s wich was the worst and unstable time in recent history.Sure there IS certan degree of cencorship in Russia.But if you look what happens in american media its way worse.
Nestilll 3 years ago
SOME censorship? exactly how much air time did they give Garry Kasparov for his election campaigns?
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
manhattanwombat
Are you really dumb idiot? You never was in Russia, and have only 0,01 % information about life here. Just why stupid idiots think that they know all better than others?
You proved that you are moron, because you didn't know about UN resolution. What stops me to think that you know NOTHING about reality? Just another critine, brainwashed by Mass Media. What a clown...
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
there are thousands of UN resolutions. most of them worthless shit that doesnt do anything or that no one listens to...
this particularly unimportant resolution was of course portrayed to be a great historical event because the great glorious leader premier supreme president general of the peoples council putin played a part in it.
u russians are very susceptible to propaganda. first after the weak and worthless czars, then the psychopathic schizophrenic communists and now putin
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
"most of them worthless shit "
LOL Learn history, just LEARN SOMETHING, imbicile. You are 3-years old child with such comments. I don't wanna waste my time on idiot..
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
pendosbI dolboebbI
Alex34ru 3 years ago
AHAHA) Trolls are attacking) Morons without ANY FACTS try to prove something? What a FUCKIN' joke! <:
Even USA investigation accepted that SUKASHVILI bombed Tskinvalli. I even don't say about THOUSANDS other facts, like recognitions of British members of OSCE.
But the main proof - is that THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SANCTION AGAINST RUSSIA! HAHA)
Don't think that all world are idiots. All understand very well that it was planned operation under US order to provoke Russia by killing people.
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
Chechens deserve nothing but a good asswhooping for disrespecting the hospitality we treated them with for the last 200+ years on OUR Russian land. If they want independance they should move back to wherever they came from and be happily independant there!
rus218 3 years ago
Same story all over again. Im fucking tired of this S.Ossetia talk. South Ossetia never was Georgian. Stalin as a Georgian made South Ossetia a part of Georgia so Russia would have 1 less region to worry about. During USSR South Ossentians lived in peace cause they were part of a great country. After the fall of the Soviet Union, South Ossetians rightfully asked for independance since they want to live with North Ossetians and not with Georgians who treat them like shit. They deserve freedom!
rus218 3 years ago
Chechnya deserves freedom too...
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
No it doesnt. You say that because you dont know the history of Chechnya. Chechnya was nothing but steps and mountains when Russian colinized it in the beginning of the 18th century. Only over 100 years later a tribe now known as 'chechens' came to live in that region. Historians suppose they fled from the neighbourhood of Iran. We let them live on our land as long as they dont make trouble. So we welcomed them on our land, we built Chechnya and now they say its their land?? Please fuck off!
rus218 3 years ago
lol did you make that up or is that really what russian media tells you? Chechnya was part of the Ottoman empire in the 15th century, when the inhabitants converted to islam under turkish influence. Near the end of the 18th century the russian imperialists with their european technology attacked the ottoman empire and persia to steal more land. this is when the chchen people started being oppressed by the european invaders and they are still being oppressed today by the successor state russia
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
Are you really a moron?? Those were regions which now are the most southern parts of the Chechen republic. These regions were maybe 10% of the full size of todays Chechen republic.
rus218 3 years ago
even if that is so, the russians did give away 90% of chechnya to the geogians then...
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
What parts of Chechnya have we given away to the Georgians?? What the fuck has Chechnya to do with Georgia?? Chechnya is Russian land and South Ossetia as a whole country has to be independant. It has nothing to do with Georgia, nor is it rightfully part of Georgia.
rus218 3 years ago
u crazy commies displaced millions and redrew all maps. its ur fault its such a mess! if chechen republic wants independence its cause they dont benefit from putins economic plans, only russians do, so let them be independent and decide their own destiny.
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
"if chechen republic wants independence"
OMG what a MORON. Of course in US propoganda it was shown as "kind Chechens just want to be independent", but your media NEVER SHOES THAT THIS "kind Chechens" were international terrorists, who killed CHECHENS in Chechnya and Dagestan.
MORONS, LEARN HISTORY BEFORE WRITING STUPID DUMB SHITTY COMMENTS)) LOLZZZZZ
Your opinions are NOTHING, because normal and adequate people know this situation and DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT MORON'S OPINIONS))
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
u rusfags are nothing ur chinas bitch u keep ur people poor just so u can have a big army to keep ur fascist empire together
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
ehh.. what? another smaaaaaaaaaaart american crying? LOL
Sit in your USA, where debt is rising 17,5 billions $ in a day, and SHUT UP!!)))) What a crazy nation)
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
Sure they can be! But certainly not on our land!! They are free to go! Back to the south where they came from and be independant there!
rus218 3 years ago
fine then russians can go back to the mongolian steppes and be independent there!
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
So, if Ossetians of CENTRAL GEORGIAN SAMACHABLO (so called s.osethia) want freedom, thay should go back to the NORTH CAUCASUS where they came from and be independant there - in Alania!!!
Today, there is an obvious manifold instrumentalization of the minorities by Russia for the purpose of destroying the Georgian state.
Iberi1 3 years ago
Chechnya is not Russian land!
tommylodz2004 3 years ago
it is
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
On March 15, 1918, the Ossetian peasants in Georgia rose in rebellion. The fighting culminated in the town of Tskhinvali which was raided by the rebels on March 19, 1918. Tskhinvalis Georgian and "Ebraeli" population was massacred and the town was looted by ossetians(Please note: at that time only about 10% Ossetians lived in old Georgian town Tskhinvali).
Iberi1 3 years ago
The central georgian region - samachablo-shida kartli - so-called South Osetia IS NOT A NATIVE LAND OF OSSETIANS
It HAS NEVER BEEN PART OF "United Ossetia"!!!
Iberi1 3 years ago
anerikans fuckin asshools!!!!!!!!!
biggoldenboy 3 years ago
Trust Russia will have a more prosperity 2009..
jessieskyview 3 years ago
:) gL Hf
its payback time
crackp0tx 3 years ago
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FUCK RUSSIA --LOSERS
FUTUREFIGHTER 3 years ago
This is just standard Russian method: use the presence of ethnic minorities "autonomni oblast" in various neighboring countries (planted there during Soviet times) as an excuse to beat up on small neighbors who don't toe the Kremlin line.
Russians have been using all kinds of excuses to park their tanks on Georgian soil - Abkazia and fake Ossetia (real ossetia-Alania is another part of Caucasus).
Iberi1 3 years ago
Sure the Russians end goal is Georgia as a vassal of Moscow. Well screw that noise - until the Georgians cross over into RUSSIAN space (and nobody says that they have) this was a Russian invasion, pure and simple!
Iberi1 3 years ago
I just repeat one dude, he is right:
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The spammer above only looks desperate by repeating the same false assertions and crapping all over this thread. Seriously, even the BBC and CNN have admitted that they wrongly omitted that Georgia started the war. And "Iberi1" needs to get laid."
rivalrox666 3 years ago
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Georgia has an internationally recognized right to control the territory of so called South Ossetia (central Georgia - SHIDA KARTLI). Russia needs to pull out!
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Yes, in the UK the media reported that Georgia started the war. The Russian backed separatist attacks on Georgian villages, that were in the days before, were shown or mentioned in only one report. The rest of the media completely omitted it.
Iberi1 3 years ago
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So, to claim that there is new shock evidence that Georgia might have started the war presupposes that this wasnt how it was reported in the first place.
The point is, this Luksemburg type province is full of Russian intelligence infrastructure and they have been exploiting the situation and had clearly planned for mass invasion to try to overthrow the Georgian government.
Iberi1 3 years ago
r u ok ?
bb7777888 3 years ago
I like Medvedev's attitude. He appears warmer than Putin. But Putin: still hotter ;D
BlueLotusPagana 3 years ago
Georgia has an internationally recognized right to control the territory of so called South Ossetia (central Georgia - SHIDA KARTLI). Russia needs to pull out!
Iberi1 3 years ago
no, not quite like that already. the so called international opinion is already ready to recognize georgia with no s.ossetia and abkhasia. there is a principle of territorial integrity but there is a right for self-determination, as well. that's the reality.
mikkitiny 3 years ago
Medvedev is a reasonable man whereas Saka is just a psycho.
mikkitiny 3 years ago
Very true. The spammer above only looks desperate by repeating the same false assertions and crapping all over this thread. Seriously, even the BBC and CNN have admitted that they wrongly omitted that Georgia started the war. And "Iberi1" needs to get laid.
BlueLotusPagana 3 years ago
I guess everyones news lies but Kremlin-Putin-Medvedev's huh? Russian tanks do not protect they only take over. Georgia is and always should be free!!!
Did Russia Prepared "South Ossetian" separatists regime for War with Georgia? The answer would be YES! The separatists have continued shelling Georgian villages even during a unilateral Georgian cease fire.
Iberi1 3 years ago
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The main reason for evaluating legitimacy of Russias action should not be whether democratically elected government of Georgia tried to protect its own citizens on its own soil. Instead it should be evaluated by answers to the following questions:
Iberi1 3 years ago
dude sakashvili brought this on himself and u know it
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
Mr. Medvedev and Kokoiti Eduard Djabaevich are Putin's puppets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Was Georgia or Russia the side, which conduct factual annexation of a neighboring sovereign country?
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Was Georgia or Russia the side, which withdrew from the agreement about reducing arms on Caucasus wing one year before? Georgia complied with the agreement, while Russia sharply increased military forces, equipment, and armored equipment in the Northern Caucasus. It is absolutely clear, that there was more equipment, than needed to conduct a military operation in Chechnya or other Republics of the Caucasus. It is absolutely clear why they withdrew from that agreement.
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Which country crossed the border of a neighboring democracy with tanks and thousands of troops?
Which country organized series of deadly provocations during months and years?
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Which country distributed passports to the population of a neighboring country, by violation of their and our constitution, in order to use it as a motive to justify intervention with intention to protect its own citizens?
Which country refused to participate in peace talks, which were organized by the European Union on July 24th and by OSCE on July 31st?
Which country refused a peace offer by Steinmeier /wiki/Frank-Walter_Steinmeier>, the foreign minister of Germany?
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Who attempted to conceal its own well-planned intervention with false accusation, as if 2000 peaceful citizens were destroyed in Tskhinvali? Impartial observers of all international organizations denied this fact immediately, and later on Russias official government denied it too.
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Which country started military actions in order to protest and stop genocide?
Which country started and which country conducted ethnic cleansing of population of which country?
After the conflict stopped, which country refused to comply, even with the first part of the signed seize fire agreement, requiring to protect foreseen territories and to let the European observers monitor them?
Iberi1 3 years ago
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why not interview secret president putin?
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
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The main reason for evaluating legitimacy of Russias action should not be whether democratically elected government of Georgia tried to protect its own citizens ON ITS OWN SOIL. Instead it should be evaluated by answers to the following questions:
Was Georgia or Russia the side, which conduct factual annexation of a neighboring sovereign country?
Iberi1 3 years ago
lol. protect whom and from what? protect ossets by killing them in big numbers? on georgian soil? ossets did not think so.
so, you hope in vain that somehow the west will justify georgia and blame russia. it's not going to happen.
mikkitiny 3 years ago
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IN THE WEEK PRIOR TO THE RUSSIAN INVASION, OSSETIAN separatists, AIDED BY Russian peacekeepers, had SHELLED & RAIDED GEORGIAN VILLAGES beyond "South Ossetia" AND KILLED INNOCENT GEORGIANS - President of Georgia, took the bait and walked into Moscows trap—he ordered Georgian forces to go in and clean out the areas OF GEORGIA where the "South Ossetian" militias were operating.
Iberi1 3 years ago
Circassian Diaspara worldwide caucasian i don't know english hope so clearly understood
nartabrec 3 years ago
President Medvedev Russia either being of the same race status accord circassian diapara
nartabrec 3 years ago
wat a fool
2pacMuzic 3 years ago
Dmitry Medvedev`s statement about starting war in Georgia has caused inhomogeneous reaction in Moscow. Part of the State Duma members says Russia had scheduled the war against Georgian aggression; another part considers, Medvedev expressed his reaction too late.
Pavel Felgenhauer, the Russian defense analyst asserts the Russian aggression had been premeditated and brings Medvedev`s statement as a proof to this.
Iberi1 3 years ago
President`s speech is an evidence for what the Georgian side has been proving for so long. Medvedev`s confession will dispel suspicions of all those sides who have not believed until now that Russia started the war in Georgia.
Iberi1 3 years ago
every one gets wat they deserve Georgia got just that Im glad:)
lordsteel333 3 years ago
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After the whole world has seen that Russia was preparing for the war it had to confess the fact. Georgia became a victim of premeditated aggression.
Iberi1 3 years ago
Georgia a victom? did u forget south ossetia how Georgia attacked a sleeping city, everyone always tries despretly to blame russia for the world probloms Im sorry to say russia did the right thing if I was medvedev I would wipe Georgia of the face of the earth but he gave mercy to Georgia after its cowerdly strike
lordsteel333 3 years ago
Having created, (ARTIFICIALLY - in 1922) & funded and fully backed the South Ossetian separatist movement since the Soviet crack-up, in late July the Kremlin ordered its own puppet regime of Kokoiti to provoke the Georgians.
Iberi1 3 years ago
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In the week prior to the Russian invasion, South Ossetians, aided by Russian peacekeepers, had shelled and raided Georgian villages beyond South Ossetia. President, Mikheil Saakashvili, took the bait and walked into Moscows trap—he ordered Georgian forces to go in and clean out the areas where the "South Ossetian" militias were operating.
Iberi1 3 years ago
First part of ur comment is not correct....look I am an American I know my country is supposed to be on Georgias side and it is but the american people arent.... we have been fooled by our government to many times....now bush told us that Russia invaded georgia by aggression but he did not tell us that the U.S army was training Georgians to attack south ossetia and there is hard evidence that US provoked the conflict as much as Georgia Russia was merly monitoring the situation
lordsteel333 3 years ago
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During the last years Russian Government was making statements against independence of Kosovo, at the same time Russians were openly supporting separatists in Georgia.
Russia has a history of causing problems in the "near abroad" and then coming to "fix" the problem.
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Having created, funded and fully backed the Ossetian separatist movement in Georgia since the Soviet crack-up, in late July the Kremlin ordered its own puppet regime of "President" Kokoiti gangs (trained by Russian army) to provoke the Georgians.
Iberi1 3 years ago
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IN THE WEEK PRIOR TO THE RUSSIAN INVASION, OSSETIAN separatists, AIDED BY Russian peacekeepers, had SHELLED & RAIDED GEORGIAN VILLAGES beyond South Ossetia. AND KILLED INNOCENT GEORGIANS - President of Georgia, took the bait and walked into Moscows trap—he ordered Georgian forces to go in and clean out the areas OF GEORGIA where the "South Ossetian" militias were operating.
Iberi1 3 years ago
This is so boring, so boring. I guess one thousand times they already said that there are no prooves of any russian traping and aiding separatists but there astonishing amounts of prooves which state that Saakashvilli planed and started that war. Read HRW and OSCE reports, boy. You are brainwashed by your president propaganda.
rivalrox666 3 years ago
You are brainwashed by your SOVIET stile propaganda!!!
Iberi1 3 years ago
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On August 6, before full scale Russian intervention, Georgian peacekeepers were killed, and that was continuation of the violence that was resorted from the begging of the month.
An intensified bombardment of the Georgian villages was continuing on that night and during the next day. Ossetian separatist artillery was mainly dislocated in Tskhinvali near positions of the Russian "peacekeepers". Commander of the "peacekeeping" forces General Kulakhmetov confirmed this fact himself.
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Was Georgia or Russia the side, which withdrew from the agreement about reducing arms on Caucasus wing one year before? Georgia complied with the agreement, while Russia sharply increased military forces, equipment, and armored equipment in the Northern Caucasus. It is absolutely clear, that there was more equipment, than needed to conduct a military operation in Chechnya or other Republics of the Caucasus. It is absolutely clear why they withdrew from that agreement.
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Did u forget how "south ossetian" separatists aided by russian "peacekeepers" attacked the sleeping georgian villages in the week prior to the Russian invasion?!
Iberi1 3 years ago
I did not hear anything interesting at this interview :(
via4any 3 years ago 2
Try to use phones, imbicile))
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
Was there anything about freedom, human right? No. Then nothing interesting.
via4any 3 years ago
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Im under no illusions about Russia - the Destroyer of Grozny - having any moral authority in the region!
Iberi1 3 years ago
Russia is the country that neglects the international law, the principles and norms of international law that civilized countries live with!
Iberi1 3 years ago
Not only Russia.
"the Destroyer of Grozny" There was the war, how it possible war w/o destructions? And who has moral authority? Is there any country who did not make any war? BTW Grozny was not peaceful city even when war was frozen.
via4any 3 years ago
Tskhinvali was not peaceful city even when war was frozen!!!
Iberi1 3 years ago
RIght. But the conflict was almost cold before last escalation. Grozny was different, it was bloody pain for russia all the time, terrorism, kidnaping, explosions, capturing civilians. Did osetians do anything like it was at nordoks, Beslan, Budenovsk? probably no.
via4any 3 years ago
The Ossetians, whose separatist government and armed forces were effectively controlled by Russians, had for several weeks escalated the usual petty violence of kidnappings, shootings, blockades and banditry to a point where the death-rate among Georgian police was more than worrying. Georgian attack can be called a pre-emptive strike.
Iberi1 3 years ago
Just boring to discuss with you. It is your religion and can't help you. You believe one side is right, other people believe that another side is right. But there is no right side. Each side has own true, own reasons.
via4any 3 years ago
Medvedev invade ukraine then i respect you
you have much balls then ;)
only if you fight ukraine^^
2pacMuzic 3 years ago
Russia well never again be in Ukraine Land
Never!
WieGehtMeinKameraden 3 years ago
one half of Ukraine is in fact Russia, and the other part -former Poland and Rech Pospolitaya.
But the hint is that Ukraine will ask Russia to accept it again by itself, there is simply no other geopolitical choice.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
Russians reinforced their puppet KOKOITY regime and then provoked an incident, knowing how hot-headed Saakashvili was, and he walked right into the trap.
The West should watch carefully for a similar ploy to be used in the Ukraine.
Iberi1 3 years ago
nobody will fight to please you and make you believe in something. In georgia yankees were already fucked well. they are now being fucked in ukraine, their ways to sponsor ukrainian and georgian leaders are being cut.
Therefore, no need to fight with our brothers Slavic nations. It's only dirty assholes (which means yankees) must go to hell.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
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your opinion very important for him )))
bb7777888 3 years ago
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Medvedev aka Putin's puppet
mrtdot 3 years ago
then perhaps you are cia bitch? :)
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
Medvedev said three times in his interview that the war was begun by Russia. He said it was his personal decision on launching the fighting in "South Ossetia".
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Medvedev has confessed that Russia had been preparing for possible war in the Caucasus before August. Medvedev retold the Russian version of the Georgia-Russia war:))
Iberi1 3 years ago
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Russia damages security not only in Caucasus Region but in the whole world as well!
Iberi1 3 years ago
we just protect our interests in whole world as well ))) it damage fascist-states security )))
bb7777888 3 years ago
so what ? we was right!)))
bb7777888 3 years ago