Democrats Using Troops as 'Bargaining Chip' for Pork

[myjoebig]

Bush should have all these anti-American traders and scum shipped to Iraq to live out their useless lives.

[hellotommy]

And now the Congress is going to starve the troops of funding till January because Harry Reid & Nancy Pelosi are treasonous losers using there last card to undermind the war effort. Politicians are the lowest of all humankind and have an enormous position of power, when in fact most of them could not manage a 7-11 successfully.

[red5llaw]

Re-deployment, but we're not gonna pull the troops out. Sounds like the 'Ole double shuffle dance to me.

The Troop surge is working Harry. Is that why you are covering your bets (Ass)?

[tIm8u]

hey dummy!

As goes the bans on Lt5, so comes the bans on his computer's code.

[usus58]

When a pile of shit copies a mound of sand the pile of shit is sincerely falltered.New World Order.Leftist world. Yeowza.

[It5Iee]

I think lt5lee may have watched the wince-factor expression on bush1tman's face as the Bush Jr. drove it in.

But, based on earlier posts lt5lee may have done the measuring himself. He so likes to measure things with his arse.

[usus58]

FACT FACT FACT FACT....Your strange !

[usus58]

One man in Church with a gun is like Shepherd among sheep.He protect them. Intellectually-challenged masses not smart like spammeister but all have guns! WUN AWAY !!!!

[lmBatman49]

Gore/Obama 2008.

End the insanity.

Stop the creation of muslim extremists.

Support the troops - Quit lying to them.

Balance the Budget, Reduce CO2, rid govt of evangelical extremists.

[usus58]

Little ice age.Oceanic conveyer warms northern hemisphere.Arctic ice melts & fresh water makes ocean less dense interrupting conveyer.Northern hemisphere cools,ice advances over N America,Europe.Global warming natural as spanking monkey in Jr High. Gore very bad man.

[taciturntim]

Treason! You and Danny Glover going to jail if we can get that stupid Sean Hannity to shut up and let smart people handle it.

[taciturntim]

Blonde leaves a note for milkman"leave 25 gallons".He knocks on door and asks"did you mean 2.5gallons".No,she says,I want to take a milk bath to rejuvenate my skin."Do you want that pasteurized?He asks."No, just up to my tits,I can splash it on my eyes myself." WATCH MY QUEEN YOU WEEN

[taciturntim]

Who is this "We're" of whom you speak o Satan of Satan. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. And a ho ho ho(for Christmas)

[taciturntim]

This guy is truly paranoid.Using youtube to attract conservative posters then using 20 different usernames to attack and personally threaten violence on them and to say things like "how would you like it if I came all over that factually challenged mouth of yours"( I saw that ).Paranoid? accusing strangers of being paid millions by "Bremer" based on anonymous comments. Whacked!!

[taciturntim]

You've got a point there. Uncertainty drives up the price,no doubt. World demand is doing a number these last 8 yrs like a runaway train though.

[taciturntim]

I throw usus53 a line and lt5lee (not Lt5lee who is real but the spammer lt5lee with the lower case l) he bite the bate. Methinks somethings afoot. A rotten Dane perhaps or a spammer from the spammer factory of notroops,usus53,dingobarry,GOD­runk,OILegionnaire,Zeriouslee,­toadsucker25,armsyrup, OH I AM POOPED OUT. There be many more my son.

[NeoKondcious]

How bout China buys alot of oil these days factually speaking

[telengardc64]

This guy has a fetish with me. He loves using variations of my name to spam. Ignore the troll lt5lee, don't feed it.

[telengardc64]

Despite their campaign talk about earmark reform last fall, the new Democratic leadership shamelessly used pork to buy votes — before the vote, Rep's Collin Peterson of Minn and Peter DeFazio of Oregon said that add-ons for their districts would influence their decisions," Citizens Against Government Waste writes in an essay on the op-ed page of The NY Times.

[telengardc64]

The list of user names below is correct and probably missing a few. This is a paid political spammer for the left. Read some of his posts, he is all over YouTube spamming political videos.

[telengardc64]

Some of the pork in the Iraq funding bill the Dem's are trying to get passed. (with page references)

Peanut Storage (pg. 115):$74 million

⇒ Additional Salaries for the House of Representatives (pg. 51): $6.4 million

⇒ Live Fish Transport Across the Canadian Border (pg. 116):$5 million

⇒ FDA Office of Women's Health (pg. 117): $4 million

Compensation to Spinach Growers (pg. 112):$25 million

[telengardc64]

P.S. I am sure they'll love the veiled threat you made on one of their own with your alias (already recorded as well as the other comments made on the YouTube). You do realize a complete background check will be done on you now don't you :) Though retired I still have friends. I'll keep you advised. This paid propagandist job has it's perks too, though it's the satisfaction of exposing flawed liberal/socialist philosophy I like best.

[telengardc64]

I love it !!! First on the Global Warming thread I was able to manipulate you and your aliases to admit you were not really concerned with the environment, that your motivation behind the GW fraud is purly political.

Now we get the big bag psycho spammer liberal to admit he runs to the "government" for help. Ha Ha Ha , typical lib, bash the government as a 24-7 job but depend on it for everything in life. What a pathetic hypocrite you are.

[telengardc64]

You know huh? Did I clean the vomit from your face one night at 4AM and rock your world?? I don't descriminate Clinton, drunk girls need lovin too ya know. As for your previous comment, my rebuttals are factual with references, unlike what you socialists post here.

[telengardc64]

Hey Clinton, Take a look at what the Dem's hid in the spending bill they want passed. If they care so much for our troops, why did they add all that pork in it knowing that it will only complicate the process. They care about polls Clinton, nothing more, nothing less. They have no conviction or morals.

[telengardc64]

Guess the honeymoon's over :) Well, we had fun while it lasted baby, hope you learned the truth about a thing or 2. Hey, stop posting by the way, you are making Hillary look bad. (can she look any worse??)

[telengardc64]

Liberals- Creating voids and weakness for evil to move in time & time again. Al-Sadr is a big supporter of the Dem's, so is Syria/Iran/Russia/ & N Korea- birds of a feather.

Al-Sadr's associates say his strategy rests in part on his belief that Washington will soon start reducing troop strength, leaving behind a hole in Iraq's security and political power structure that he can fill.

[telengardc64]

Hey lt5lee, check out the other sites this guy posts on. He must be some fat non-working loser that sits on YouTube all day and posts these conspiracies & lies. He must get some sick satisfaction by creating these names and "ganging up" on unsuspecting posters. Pathetic loser without a clue.

[telengardc64]

No , but I will accuse you of being a brainless broad with spam boy and his numerous aliases cheering for you. You understand that world events shape the prices of commodities such as oil correct? You understand that the Democrats anti-refinery stance in the US adds to that as does OPEC price control, war, nature, etc, etc.

[telengardc64]

Your spamfan only believes that Bush controls the price of oil in the world, and that Bush caused Katrina, and Bush wants to start armageddon.... use your own mind, these libs fear that the most.

[telengardc64]

I asked you a question. You are just trying to justify an ugly thing by talking about extreme scenarios when most of the time it is done as a form of birth control.

Isn't it funny ClintonInNeedofASoul, that all these other posters log on at the same time to attack me??? This is what your party is all about, lies, spin, deceit, and self-interest.

[telengardc64]

As usual you did not read my post, you just did your typical knee jerk spam reaction. If you actually read my factual post you will see a hyperlink for the information. You should try it so time.

PIG- Pride , Integrity, & Guts. NYPD in da house slayin y'all wit da hardcore mutha fukin facts jack. Check yo self spammer.

[telengardc64]

Without a linked reference to your outlandish claims and conspiracy theiries you have no credibility like most of your ilk. You spamming and multiple names are a distraction but par for the course for the liberal agenda of distortion, spin, and misinformation. Facts are the liberals worst enemy.

[telengardc64]

On March 19, 2003, just as some Venezuelan production was beginning to return, military action commenced in Iraq. Meanwhile, inventories remained low in the U.S. and other OECD countries. With an improving economy U.S. demand was increasing and Asian demand for crude oil was growing at a rapid pace. The loss of production capacity in Iraq and Venezuela combined with increased production to meet growing international demand led to the erosion of excess oil production capacity.

[telengardc64]

In mid 2002, there was over 6 million barrels per day of excess production capacity, but by mid 2003 the excess was below 2 million. During much of 2004 and 2005 the spare capacity to produce oil has been under one million barrels per day. A million barrels per day is not enough spare capacity to cover an interruption of supply from almost any OPEC producer.

[telengardc64]

In a world that consumes over 80 million barrels per day of petroleum products that adds a significant risk premium to crude oil price and is largely responsible for prices in excess of $40 per barrel.

wtrg[dot]com/prices[dot]htm

Please post references to your wild rants. Otherwise you are irrelevant.

You see liberal spammer, Oil is a commodity who price is effected by world events,OPEC production, and world consumption. Hope this explains why oil went up ignoramous.

[telengardc64]

You talk about compassion??? I read your post about a woman's right to choose. Is killing fully formed babies in your womb compassion ??? Have you seen video of the procedure , where these innocent babies are torn apart alive in the womb ???? While you have no problem killing your own children I bet you have no problem protesting against executing mass murderers. That is satanic at the very least. You are a hypocrate with blood on your hands.

[telengardc64]

Yes I do Ms Clinton. That is why I, and other conservatives, are against pulling our troops out of Iraq until the Iraqis can protect themselves. It would be a massive killing field (like Cambodia when we left) if we leave too soon. These people are risking everything for freedom, we should stand by them. Heartless Democrats are looking to pull the troops and start the massacre.

[telengardc64]

Ok then here is the story in that bastion of liberal lunacy, The Washington Post

washingtontimes[dot]com/nation­al/20041122-114954-5086r[dot]h­tm

That was easy. Conservative viewpoints are so easy to backup with references, unlike your warped liberal philosophy.

[telengardc64]

Yeah , she really got me good. Had to take a break and do some self reflecting. Well, after some serious thought, I am convinced that my girl is lucky to have me. Our relationship is built on respect. We are so affectionate that when I take her to the ball game I kiss her between the strikes and she kisses me between the ballz !!!! Oh, I kill me . Hey Clinton, why don't you come to a ball game with me :)

[telengardc64]

Clinton, don't you realize that you worship a woman who allowed her husband to fvck anything that moved and she still stayed with him ???? On second thought, maybe that isn't such a bad thing. Wish more girls were as understanding as she is !!!

[telengardc64]

Contemporaneous reports in London's Financial Times revealed that the audience included representatives of the BinLadin Group, which helped fund the Jeddah forum. The BinLadin Group is a leading Saudi construction company run by relatives of the 9/11 terrorist mastermind. Osama bin Laden grew up in the Red Sea port city of Jeddah.

[telengardc64]

I hear she really likes dickless spamming azzholes, your in dude !!!

[telengardc64]

Clinton you big dummy

[telengardc64]

Yes, I need your real email , the one you used to sign up, in order to do it.

[telengardc64]

Whatever, I just don't want to see a young naive girl get brainwashed by these libs. I guess a BJ is out of the question then????

[telengardc64]

In Iraq we removed the dictator and allowed a country that courageously risked life and limb to vote in a democratic government with a huge turnout at the polls.

The United States fought in many wars but only took enough land to bury our dead. God Bless this great country.

[telengardc64]

Why doesn't the mainstream liberal media interview our soldiers and get the truth of whats going on over there?? They don't want the American people to hear their dedication to the cause. They don't want you to hear the reasons they re-enlist and new soldiers keep enlisting. And if we are going to keep a daily tally of American casualties , then why not report on how many of the enemy is dead?? Makes for a clearer view of whose winning.

[telengardc64]

Hmmm, that must be why the American people voted in Republican presidents in 8 elections out of the last 11 (Ford technically wasn't elected but what the hay). If Clinton hadn't allowed Enron,Worldcom,Tyco, and the others to artificially inflate the market for the perception of a robust economy, he would have served only 1 term.

[telengardc64]

The Dem's are the true facists. FoxNews and AM radio are the only places to hear conservative viewpoints and yet the facists seek to silence it. Neospammer posts over and over his venomous hatred for FOX. Freedom of speech is only acceptable to the facists if it is their views being presented. Now the Demo-facists are looking to silence political bloggers on the net. Check out grassrootfreedom dot com . Scary.

[telenhardc64]

Clinton was behind the US pulling out of Cambodia, where Congress had not authorized troops to be. As students of Ken Starr at Pepperdine, we believe in a one party system, supported by their corporate constituency, a Judiciary appointed by that one party and freedom of speach for those in that party.

[telengardc64]

And I thought you were starting to warm up to me. GWB's only mistake is not putting up a wall on the Mexican border. The guy is aces all day long but he won't stop the cheap labor from entering our country illegally. Go figure. The USA should be worried about doing whats right, not bootlicking the world and UN. Iraq pleaded with the traitor Dem's to stay the course but that didn't stop them from pulling out of Cambodia and leaving 2 million to die at the hands of Pol Pot. Souless leaches.

[telengardc64]

Wow, you finally see the light !!!  Spammer, I think it is time to remove your tinfoil hat !! Outstanding. Telengardc64, enlightening liberal ignorance one ignoramous at a time.

[telenhardc64]

Wow, you finally see the light !!! Spammer, I think it is time to remove your tinfoil hat !! Outstanding. Telengardc64, enlightening liberal ignorance one ignoramous at a time.

[telengardc64]

NeoKonscious, usus53, spentpeon, telen-groupie and all your other names, grow up and pick a name so we can have a intelligent discussion instead of playing games.

[telengardc64]

Hey bro, relax, she didn't force anything on you. Nice way to treat a potential ally that isn't your BS allias (or is it, hmmmmmm) I got your back ClintonIn2oo8. Any questions about your degenerate political party, let me know, I have all the answers. This guy uses many aliases on here, they're all the same guy- big internet bully.

[telengardc64]

How many Democrats were elected president in the last 40 years???? 2 Carter & Clinton both dismal failures, what a legacy. Hey Ms Hillary Jr, what is it you like about her that you would elect her president??? This ought to be good.:)

[telengardc64]

No, because libs are usually ugly, dirty, and troll looking broads.  Why should she be any different. Send me a pic and prove me wrong ClintonInNever

[telengardc64]

It is spam boy , he forgot he logged in under a name he wishes to use to give the illusion of a moderate. Why would anyone hate Hillary??? :) I don't know where to start.

[ClintonIn2oo8]

Are you a woman???? I doubt it. Who are you to make law about a womans body??? How do you feel if a woman is raped, or her life is in jeopardy??

[Aeric98]

saynotocliton

Joined: May 22 2007

Another one of your fake accounts. How many do you need?

The copy I read was fabrication. Send me the link to where you got your copy. Maybe they're different but I doubt it.

[Aeric98]

Focus usus53 focus... paper sources are much easier to edit then videos. So if the sources that telengardc64 sited are Republican lies to embarrass Democrats then your sources must be Democrat fabrications to embarrass the Republicans. Open Your Eyes Usus53!!!

[telengardc64]

I can't argue with you in that regard. If the Republican party wants to keep it's core supporters, they need to get tough on immigration. That is the only failing grade I will give this administration.

[telengardc64]

My name appears like that because of a pimple faced spammer who posts hundreds of ignorant posts all over YouTube. Look up Al Gore Spoof and you will see how I defeated him and all his lame user names. He was easy, I am hoping for more from you.

[telengardc64]

He should care about whats good for America, not just the liberal lunatics. I was hoping you would back your statements up. When you make a statement please post the refrence. You libs can't be trusted.

[Aeric98]

You are so funny. Fact: you have at least 10 accounts you use to support your own viewpoints. Substantiation: You Tube shows when the accounts were made. All your accounts have been made on the same day. All of them support each other without any variation in writing style. Is that enough facts for one day.

[Aerit98]

Over 100 aerhead. Now...is it true you got your law degree from Pat Roberston?

Now...back to "relevant" facts.

Bush lied, troops died, government spied.

Gonzales-gate, world irate, US rogue state.

No WMDs, No Habeas Corpus (if you please), God won't bless us...(even if we sneeze).

No uranium, Coalition = Albanium, Bush's Cranium? (Rove),

[telengardc64]

Ok, I think you are not part of the notroops,KroveDC,usus53 spamming posse so I'll bite (for now). What proof do you have that Bush went to war over a grudge from his father ? Very illogical and again you post unsupported conspiracy instead of fact. As for the election in 08, I can only hope the Mormon wins.  He does have some flaws and did a flip flop or 2 but I feel he is the best one for the job.

[telengardc64]

Baseless liberal lies. Again ,you provide no refrence to your conspiracy theories.

[telengardc64]

<One thing is clear...Bush & cronies are going down.

>

That is the first factual comment you've made with any of your spamming names. He can't run for a third term unfortunately, so yes , he will be finished shortly.

[telengardc64]

"Soon, Cheney will be impeached, then Bush"

They almost impeached Clinton for a BJ and the Dem's can't impeach Bush & Cheney for lying to Congress, illegally starting a war, and violating the constitution????? THESE ARE LIES AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES - if they had an ounce of evidence they'd be impeached.

[telengardc64]

I clicked on this new name psycho boy, armsyrup, and see you have dedicated a paragraph to me about blowup dolls and conservative women, I'll tell you what, nothing turns me on more than a hot chick with a brain. Why are all you liberals ugly trolls???? You can keep Bella Abzug, Streisand, Garafallo, Rosie, and Hines

Why don't you back your mad rantings with proof??

[telengardc64]

Post some links and back up your conspiracy theories.

[Aeric98]

usus53 has added telenliesdc64, telenlardc64, telenfartdc64 as accounts. He has copied everything from telengardc64 account down to his favorite book. Usus53 or whatever account you want to reply with today, if you really believed all the stuff you are saying why do you need so many accounts?

[telengardc64]

This guy has so many names I have lost count. He has no choice but to post using different names because he is not interested in real debate- just spamming and conspiracy and whatever cheap thrill he gets from creating false the illusion that many users agree with his warped ideology. Think about the time he spends posting on many videos and creating all those telengard spoof sites. As Beck said "He's a Loser Baby"... well you know the rest :)

[telengardc64]

typical and common liberal tactics, deflect from the truth. Why did all those Democrats say Saddam waas dangerous and had WMD's, quite a few before GW was president. You can't answer can you :)

[AlanCom1]

telengardc, there is a video of Gore criticizing bush sr for not getting into Iraq and having a long list of complains about Saddam.

Now gore has the opposite view since the war is unpopular. The war is unpopular because leftist scum would do anything to go back to power, including shaking hands with islamofascists.

[telengardc64]

Books are full of the authors bias. Video is undisputable. You can't handle the truth :) That was easy.

Your little game with your many user names is juvenile, pathetic, and typical of the lies and distortion of the liberal. Just like your lying hero's in the videos I posted.

[telengardc64]

The real facts are that Saddaam demonstrated he willingness to use WMD by gassing the Kurds & Iranians, firing scud rockets indescriminately into Isreal, firing at our planes enforcing UN no fly rules, ignoring UN articles for full & unimpeded inspections for WMDs, world intel agencies said he had WMDs, and he started 3 regional conflicts. GWB did what should have been done.

[telengardc64]

"They (congress) had the same intel we had". Absolutely untrue.

Another unsupported dellusional statement by multi-user nut. Read the 9/11 commsion report and see what a bi-partisan commission discovered. I back up my statements, you just spew left wing propaganda.

[telengardc64]

you have to replace [dot] with . and get rid of the dashes in w-w-w . Then you will have a valid hyperlink (I'll educate you on using the internet as well) As you well know YouTube does not allow links.

Then you will see the Democrat hypocrasy in all it's shame. This is what's called backing up statements with facts (video is the ultimate proof). You just yap about liberal socialist philosophy, no proof to your statements.

[telenlardc64]

Uh...I dunno much about facts, but ah...theres these videos and uh...well, they're pretty funny cuz they make fun of dems, and uh...welll, you really should check them out...

dooshbag dot upmy slash pootytang slash dumb

[spentpeon]

I think he's relying on the same evidence I have:

911 Comm. Report, Senate Intel PhII report, Downing Street Memo, Pent. Insp. General Rpt, NIE Rpt., Woodward's book, Clarke's book, Cobra II by Gen. Trainor.

Why are you attacking the person instead of attacking the facts?

[telengardc64]

See Nancy Pelosi stammer when confronted about her comments that "Saddam Hussien has chemical and biological weapons".

w-w-w[dot]youtube[dot]com/watc­h?v=TyB_ldDMmFE

See the democrats tell you that Saddam had WMDs and why they authorized the invasion for the president

w-w-w[dot]youtube[dot]com/watc­h?v=ePb6H-j51xE

The undeniable truth

[Aeric98]

Good videos telengardc64 but you know that GODrunk, usus53, oillegionaire, dingobarry, telen-etc., and the rest of his spam names will not watch them. He only wants to hear/watch information that supports his view points.

[Aeric98]

Toadsucker25/usus53, Are you saying that you have direct evidence to support the Administration did this or is that your opinion? Or better yet someone else's opinion that you are recycling for everyone?

[telenlardc64]

Fart, shit, poopcakes, doo-doo, farc, flatulence, beatmymeat, liberal, goddamn, friggin', Clinton, turdsucking, moron, stupid, asshole Liberal!!

And I have more facts from where those come from.

[usus53]

tinypp (lrgpp/prrolg) is a paid propagandist neocon.

Angry, aggro misfit who frequently resorts to profanity rather than factual debate.

mommy didn't love it enuf.

[usus53]

There tele goes again - focused on irrelevant information rather than FACTS.

Several folks have copied this info and passed it on. WHY? Because its 1) FACTUAL & 2) conveys the message clearly.

Now...tele...do you want to get back to facts?

[telengardc64]

The only people who post this , word for word in the same formatting is you psycho boy. You are exposed spammer.

[zeriouslee]

The only people who post this , word for word in the same formatting is you psycho boy. You are exposed spammer.

Uhoh, I'm exposed, I'm really telengard!

[telenfartdc64]

Wait, I'm telen. If I'm telen, you can't be telen...maybe you're amourup or should I say armsyrup.

Jeez...this is confusing. Guess we ought to get back to the facts.

[RedRules4Real]

Another STUNNING DEFEAT for the clowns running the Senate and House. They failed to cut off funds and only a dozen members of the rank and file backed a troop withdrawal deadline. This proves they're LOSERs.

[AmericanRedHero]

You tell these stupid liberals Aeric. Liberals love having their thumbs up each others ass. If it was not for the Republicans and President Bush they would all be hiding under their beds from terrorist. You are all a bunch of weak punks.

[Aeric98]

Hold up AmericanRed. I only made the comment about the thumbs to get a rise out of my friends here. I am not a republican (definitely not one that can't see through the bush bullshit) and I don't need/want your help here. So just go away.

[RedRules4Real]

"God will punish you if you continue on this pyschopathetic path." Are you God?

[RedRules4Real]

In another sought after defeat, humbled democratic leaders met with Mr. Bush at the White House where House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said they would work with the administration to get a spending bill completed without "vote bribes" and pullout time tables in it.

[prrolg]

The democrats (Reid,Pelosi et al)think they are not being noticed stabbing our troops in the back trying to undercut them for the purpose of taking credit for ending the war.The Am People will pay them back for it.They better not pat each other on the backs with the knives still in their hands.

[RedRules4Real]

Just as expected: "The Democrat-led House yesterday failed to override President Bush's veto of an emergency war-funding bill with a troop-withdrawal timetable for Iraq, after House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer said Congress should quickly pass a new version without a pullout plan."

[RedRules4Real]

GODrunk = Violent Internet Stalker and Flaming Troll: "Where do you go to school?" ... "Where do you go to school?" ... "where did you go to school?" "Where do you go to school?" ... "Where do you go to school?" ... "Answer the question redneck" ... "it occurs to me the only way to influence you is through violence" Please, let's just all pity that drunk freak...

[RedRules4Real]

"Where do you go to school? Where were you brainwashed? Admit it...Bob Jones? Pat Roberston's 4th tier school?" My assessment of you is that you're largely uneducated, maybe some High School but not much more. Please go get educated, come back and maybe we can have a debate at a higher level than your currently capable of providing.

[RedRules4Real]

"it occurs to me the only way to influence you is through violence" - that comment says a lot about YOU.

[RedRules4Real]

Bush invaded Iraq because all the world's intelligence said Saddam had WMDs. The previous administration and all its officials said he had WMDs and was willing to use them and give them to terrorists. So if Bush lied, so did Clinton and the Democrats and many other countries of the world. Check your facts.

[RedRules4Real]

Let's not get fallacious, I said control and domination is a fact, it's a fact in any society and a primary reason for any war. Yes, America does control the countries you list along with the EU.

[RedRules4Real]

My point does not ignore the fact we're in their region at all, but rather is the point. Btw, your use of red herrings and strawmen is insulting. My advice to you is keep reading and researching, keep an open mind and when you reach the state of cognitive dissonance, know that enlightenment is usually the next stop. Good luck.

[RedRules4Real]

It's simple, Japan and Mexico is controlled by the US, therefore, the US becomes the primary target of the radical Jihadis. My view is not myopic at all, but boiled down to a rather fundamental thesis. That is, it's about control and domination - their method is through religion while the west is through corporations and government (rule of law).

[RedRules4Real]

Barry, the true reason they want the US and "the west" out of the Middle East is they fear losing control over their masses, after all, isn't this all fundamentally about control and domination. If their countries become westernized who controls their population once they are addicted to western foods, music, clothes and even our RELIGIONs? Think about it.

[RedRules4Real]

Barry the radical Jihadis didn't start this war because the CIA sponsored a few coup de tats in the last century. They do hate our freedom, but hate our individualism even more. It goes against everything they believe and globalization (aka New World Order) is the real enemy they're fighting.

[RedRules4Real]

Quite living in the past Barry, try focusing on the issue at hand. The issue is Radical Islamofascist Jihadi's that want to make YOU and the rest of the idiots of the world that make excuses for them submit to Allah, live in a cave and choose your wife for you. As for your Israel prophecy, it's fantasy.

[RedRules4Real]

Cont: 2002-Pearl, kidnapped and beheaded; 9 people killed by bomb blast near US embassy in Lima; Karachi consulate attack; 2 Marines shot 1 killed in Kuwait. 2003-Riyadh Compound Bombings kill 9 Americans; 3 American diplomats killed by a roadside bomb targeting their convoy in Gaza. 2004-Civilians Nicholas Berg, Jack Hensley, & Eugene Armstrong kidnapped and beheaded in Iraq; Paul Marshall Johnson Jr, civilian kidnapped and beheaded; 5 other Americans killed in Saudi Arabia in 2004.

[RedRules4Real]

Sure thing Barry I suppose YOU believe we deserved all of these things: 1993 - First World Trade Center bombing;1993 - Attack at CIA Headquarters in McLean, VA; 1995 - Killing of US Diplomats in Pakistan;1996 - Khobar Towers bombing; 1998 - US embassy bombings: U.S. Kenya and Tanzania; 2000 - USS Cole attacked; 2001 - September 11.

[RedRules4Real]

The "War on Terror" is more ominous than the ideology that brought us WWII. The goal of the enemy is to bring the world to a perfect fundamental Islamic dominion by way of Jihad. They do not believe in peace, forgiveness and love, only martyrdom. Their way is opposite to ours and there's no negotiation that will convince them otherwise. Remember Afghanistan under the Taliban? THEIR motive is to bring that to the entire WORLD.

[CalBears7]

Beats the usual right wing propoganda of be a cog, don't complain, don't question, don't think (just listen to the preacherman- he's got the answers), ban books, don't do drugs, don't have sex (and we won't bother telling you how to keep from getting aids, cancer or knocked up because that'll mean you highschoolers are disobeying our orders and deserve to suffer the consequences)...

[CalBears7]

What kind of leftist politics are they pushing on schoolchildren? Tolerance and acceptance and equality of rights, law and personal/societal responsibilities under our government? Questioning of authority?  Problem solving and creative thinking? All the rest of the bill of rights?

[liberalsaretraitors]

Liberals suck the innocence out of our very young children by indoctrinating them with concepts about sex and gender at an age when they cannot even begin to comprehend what is being forced upon them.

[RedRules4Real]

No that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that by comparing the number of casualties that occured in Iraq to those that occured in Vietnam the numbers indicate that training and equipment is outstanding and it would take 70 YEARS to reach a comparable casualty level. That's a comparative basis, a "standard" is something completely different...

[8x56]

We got a saying You can put perfume on a pig but all you got is a pig that smells better. Watch what happens when the perfume of the elections wears off the Dems. A lot of people will realize they was had.

[liberalsaretraitors]

Morally bankrupt socialist liberal left wing tree hugging pot smoking hippie vegans like you are destroying this great Nation, you dumb azzes voted for the libs and they are stabbing you in the back (slimes load bills full of pork so they can buy votes) while are troops are left high and dry! Feel proud dirt bag!

[RedRules4Real]

This video proves Reid has lied to the American people. One day he's proposing support for providing "everything the troops need" to win the war and the next he's proposing cutting off funding and running from Iraq. Like it or not, in that scenario the terrorists win big and it leaves EVERY American a loser...

[RedRules4Real]

Reid says "we need to do a better job of training [the troops]." If you compare casualties of Vietnam to Iraq, you would find it would take over 70 years for the Iraq numbers (3K) to reach Vietnam's numbers (58K). Point is, today's military training and equipment is outstanding up to this point. The left seems to want to change all of that with the bill they just passed.

[nader08]

No surprise here. Reid and Pelosi and their party promise one thing before the election and do another after the election. Since the democrats are now in control of the House and Senate and control funding the war this is no longer 'Bush's War'. It's Pelosi's war and those who died from Jan 20th until this war ends... the blood is on the democrat party's hands. Dont blame me I voted Green.