No the main officer guilty in this case was not Cody Anderson. The officer, prosecutor and judge in this case should do the right thing and throw this case out/ expunge it completely. People who hold these titles should have good character. This case would've never been prosecuted in any other state/ or city in Montana. Most judges would've thrown this out when they saw the evidence, heard the testimony and watched the video.
@thebestboss31- It is ironic that of the thousands of people that watch this video, you're the ONLY one to discover this. What actually happened was the police attacked the guy in the car, while he was asking them not to attack him, he was holding the steering wheel when the cop slipped from trying to rip him out of the car. I wonder why the cops didn't just talk to the guy?? HMMM.
@countvonjustin you're a fucking idiot im 19 years old in washington nothing to do with the fucking police at all i just don't go around bashing law enforcements
@toferrr26 i'm the fucking idiot, but you used zero punction whatsoever in your comment. it's obvious that you're very young and naive, and as a result; i'm sorry for attacking you. you will learn when you grow up and become an adult. i admire your lack of cynicism, but worry about your naivety.
and that's just it, i'm bashing the way they inforced such laws. seems likely some cop had a shitty day, or got his burger with pickles, when he said he DID NOT WANT PICKLES or some shit. shame.
TO THE PROSECUTOR IN THIS CASE:: WHEN THE OFFICER DESTROYS EVIDENCE YOU DON'T PROSECUTE, WHEN YOU HAVE 5 WITNESSES 'N ONLY ONE IS RELEVANT, YOU DON'T PROSECUTE. WHEN YOUR STAR WITNESS/OFFICER LIES UNDER OATH, YOU DON'T PROSECUTE, WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE AN ARREST WAS MADE, YOU DON'T PROSECUTE. THE BOZEMAN CITY PROSECUTOR IS AS EQUALLY SHAMEFUL AS THE POLICE OFFICER IN THIS CASE. WHERE'S THE BOZEMAN CITY COMMISSION? WHERE'S THE GOVERNOR?? WHERE ARE THE ETHICAL LEADERS??
IF THE CITY PROSECUTOR & ONE OFFICER INVOLVED LIVED BY THE SWORD THEY WOULD EACH RECEIVE 5 YEARS FOR THIS CRIME OF THEIRS. THEY ARE A PART OF ONE OF THE MOST MALIGNED JUSTICE SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTRY. SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PLACE WHERE THERE'S NO CRIME OR REVENUE GENERATED FROM CRIME THAT THE POLICE & PROSECUTORS HAVE TO CREATE IT. FURTHERMORE THE PLACE LACKS LEADERS. THEY SIT BACK AND DO NOTHING WHILE CRIMINAL OFFICERS WHO DON'T SERVE OR PROTECT & PROSECUTORS GET AWAY WITH INJUSTICE.
THE BOZEMAN JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS A JOKE! IT'S A DISGRACE TO AMERICA, IT LACKS LEADERS AND IS DOWNRIGHT SHAMEFUL. ONLY IN BOZEMAN CAN YOU FIND A RECKLESS COP TO RIP SOMEBODY OUT OF THEIR CAR WHEN THEY EXERCISE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THEN DESTROY EVIDENCE, AUDACIOUSLY PROSECUTE, HAVE THE OFFICER LIE UNDER OATH, THEN ASK FOR JAIL TIME FOR A PROFESSIONAL W/ NO CRIMINAL RECORD ON A MISDEMEANOR! THIS BOZEMAN POLICE OFFICER 'N PROSECUTORS ARE CRIMINAL, UNETHICAL & AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO THIS NATION!!!!
@Shitraver- I've only heard about Cody Anderson. This officer is different! He knows he made a mistake. They destroyed evidence, and he lied under oath. Justice in Bozeman is a joke! The city prosecutor is shameful and reckless and should be debarred for life!! YOU FLAT OUT DON'T LET THE PD DICTATE WHO AND WHAT TO PROSECUTE. UNFORTUNATELY THEY FAILED AS WELL AS THE ONE RECKLESS OFFICER. IF YOUR PROSECUTORS ARENT BEING THE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, WHERE'S THE OVERSIGHT?
Longboard- It sounds like you're right. What they did was wrong! Except the guy in the car never hit the cop. They were too aggressive, too amped up, too overzealous and they slipped when they attacked the driver. IT'S VERY SAD THAT POLICE ARE ALLOWED TO ACT RECKLESS AND THE CITY PROSECUTOR, PUBLIC DEFENDERS, AND JUDGES ALL PROTECT THEM. WHAT A SIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
hello i now many cops.and when i se this ... you see the cops try to get out the boy and the boy hit the cop so he come on the street ...and then most the cops be angry and strong and they was it ... but they talk so little so little wrong was it !
@toferrr26 Obviously you're affiliated with the BPD, they're the only ones who want to ignore all of the facts and justify the police's reckless behavior here. Obviously, there's no audio so you don't know if he didn't. It obvously looks like they just attacked him.
@FreedomMan1977 im actually not. im 18 years old from seattle and have nothing to do with the state of montana. i was just stating the fact that the posibility of him trying to resist because you cannot see a thing he is doing and if it takes two officers to get him out of the car there is something going on. and you say that those officers are trying to ignore it or whatever but seems like all you want to do is exploit it with YOUR opinion.
@toferrr26 Well as the story goes, the police (you can use the timer on the video) begin talking and within 6 seconds start pulling the man from the car. The officer stated for a fact that he walked to the car, check the guy for medical attention, introduced himself, then asked twice to get out of the car, followed by the guy's responses. Can that be done in less than 6 seconds? You have to be under arrest to resist arrest and according to court records the guy never refused anything...they
@toferrr26 ...just attack the guy. According to reports, while the police are trying to rip the guy from the car for not commiting a crime, the driver yells I'm not resisting, I'm not resisting....he's subsequently tased twice. Sorry, that's abusing your power, using poor judgemnet and being reckless. You take an oath to serve and protect. Not to put your partners and civilians in jeopordy.
@damn. So how do you explain the lawsuits? How do you explain the one pending? How do you justify ripping somebody out of their car from a calm scene in less than 6 seconds of talking to the victim? I don't see the relevance of the particular officer you're citing. The video doesn't lie.
It has been my experience that the Bozeman PD is very professional and resort to using force only when absolutely necessary. I remember there was a 16-year veteran a few years ago who lost his job because he used inappropriate force, so I doubt this guy was the victim of police brutality.
Do you mean the sound that would of exhonorated the guy in the car? According to the BPD- all four audio devices stopped working when the guy in the car was hastily attacked.
A back story? It's a calm scene, there is a neighbor walking around in her night gown. The subject in the car wasn't committing a crime. It's amazing that officers never think they make a mistake.
The tasering happened after the first officer slipped, the second taser happened when the subject was on the ground. This isn't about tasers- the officers already said they used them.
Once the male is lifted and taken to the squad car, officers are not holstering any Tasers (or any other weapons for that matter), there are no wires protruding from the subject, etc. I've run this by my supervisor and he concurs.
Unless the tasering happend after the subject is taken back to the squad car, we don't believe there was a Taser involved.
I don't see a Taser being used. Not saying it didn't happen, but if I wasn't told there was a Taser being used, I would have never guessed. Typically when an officer is tasing someone, the other officer is not going "hands on," for fear of getting shocked. It looks as though the officers in this scenario are both going hands on throughout most of the video until after the subject is on the ground.
@ dolly- I just read below. Idiot!? I'm sure the guy in the car is smarter than you. Learn something about debate and you'll see that name calling is a falacy in any argument. It makes the debater look like an uneducated clown who has no talking points.
@dolly- the truth always comes out. As someone who appears to have a vested interest in this- you should know this. Is tampering with evidence a crime? Yes. Is policing subject to human error? Yes. Hopefully the 1 officer gets integrity. Ill pray for him.
@dolly Try reading. Just b/c you can't see the taser on your parents PC doesn't mean they weren't used. Was the driver committing a crime? No. Are people allowed to exercise speech? Yes. Did the driver refuse to get out? No. Was the driver pulled out? Yes. Lose!? Where? Is lying under oath a crime? Yes.
@Shitraver What do you mean wow? This video is nothing just some idiot not getting out of his car when told to so the drug him out. There isn't even a taser involved.
What a diaper load. First off I never did see a taser used. Secondly he was ordered twice (you said so yourself) to get out of the car and he did not. I noticed you give no back story on this. Like why the cops were called on this guy in the first place. Is it becuase you don't know jack about the situation. Or are you the guy in the vid looking for sympathy cuz you tried to fight the cops and lost.
the only facts narrating this video are coming from YOU. why should I believe YOU? That would be naive. the definition of hearsay evidence is: evidence based not on a witness's personal knowledge but on another's statement not made under oath -Merriam Webster online dictionary
Hearsay doesn't apply, the video and your eyes show you exactly what happened. The rest of the story, if not believed can by found in the Gallatin County Court records.
hearsay should apply for everything. thats how rumors get started. The only thing that this video shows is what you see. It doesn't tell you about why the cops showed up, the reason why they were called there, who the man being arrested is-Does he have wants or warrants? is he known for being emotionally unstable or violent? Is he violating a restraining order? these underlying questions are why i would like to see the court records. but i don't even know the name of the case.
Well if you think hearsay is relevant here, that is your opinion. You're obviously bright and understand enough to form your own opinions. It's very simple, to resist arrest you must be under arrest. It's not rocket science to see that the guy was pulled from his car of a calm scene within 6 seconds of making contact with him. When you're are a police officer some people have warrants, some people are irrational it's not an easy job. That's why there is very clear protocol to follow.
Should I now then go around telling your story like you did with your friend? Thats gossip and Christians aren't supposed to gossip right? it is not clear that what is happening in the car is a "calm scene". I can't even read the license plate. If you were in law enforcement you would know that protocols are anything but clear depending on the millions of scenarios that they are faced with. thats why i question what you are telling me.
Again, call it what you want. It happened, it's real. Christians have morals. The right thing is sharing the truth. So, how can you process the million scenarios and follow protocol in 6 seconds? Please explain.
I am not sure why you are bringing Christianity into this. Not all christians have morals. And there are protocols cops follow to be safe. obviously if you could process every scenario that fast we wouldn't have dead cops. the fact is is that they try, and thats all they can do.
Unfortunately it is a dangerous job. They try, just like most of us at our jobs. However, they are human and humans make mistakes. Just b/c they're officers, doesn't mean they can do whatever they choose. Bozeman is a relatively safe town. It's easy to go too far in keeping this town safe.
How do i know that you didn't cut out the audio to make it look like they did? How do i know that the guy in the car didn't just get done committing a crime before they pulled up? How do i know that he wasn't reaching for a weapon right before they pulled him out? if you cut the audio, which is very easy, it might make one think they are covering up their actions.
This is the polices tape without any editing. There was no crime being committed when the police pulled up and it's safe (see the lady walking around in her night gown?). How do you know he was reaching for a gun? If no crime is being committed and there was no report of a gun why would it even matter, you would just talk to the driver. Protocol throught the nation is called de-escalation it's called serve and protect the only way you can do that is through communication and reason.
protocol is de-escalation. but not over the officers own safety. if the man didn't want to step out of the vehicle, then, the officers had the right to remove him. That is assuming the man was suspected of breaking the law. If they just pulled up to a car and yanked him out then yes he should be held accountable, but the only supporting evidence of that is what you are telling me.
You're right! Exactly. If the man didn't want to step out of the vehicle they have the right to remove him. Understood! However, if the man did want to get out of the car (let's say he was trying to talk to them or was injured) then they should be held accountable. Now why do you think somebody would want this posted if it was the first senario and not the second??
He wanted to get out?? The one fell over trying to get him out! I do agree the if he was injured then they should have been more gentle. but that guy was walking fine in the end, and he was a pretty big guy.
Well it looks like it all went down in 6 seconds. How do you follow protocol, check if somebody is okay in that time? The truth according to the victim is he was talking to them, when they ripped him out. He never refused. Talking is what 1st or 2nd ammendment? The driver if not committing a crime has that right. We live in a civilized world, why would you just attack somebody like that?
Prior history with the BPD being reckless or prior history with the victim? The victim is a professional. The victim has no criminal record. The victim wasn't commiting a crime. The victim was pulled out of his car in less than 6 seconds. It's very, very clear. You don't have to believe what your eye sees. These are facts man.
No one is trying to pick on either. I personally think It's a tough job, honorable profession. What happened was wrong. We are all human. Humans make mistakes. When you make a mistake you don't go after the other person. You accept responsibility and move on. According to my sources the officer could of not charged the victim but charged him dispite making a mistake. The officer could go to his supervisor and make it all go away....but apparently they want attention. So be it.
Well that's your opinion. Your reasoning and logic don't make any sense to me but hey, this is America. We are free to believe as we wish. Did it ever occur to you that maybe them prosecuting a criminal charge whould hedge a civil lawsuit?? Well this cop was in the wrong and they didn't drop it...so that makes your point invalid.
I am assuming you are saying the officer didn't drop the charges of resisting arrest. so let me ask you this, what other charge was the individual cited for?
what you say makes no sense. you just keep telling me to look at the video, ignore anything else that might be in question and don't bother trying to research it.
No what I say makes perfect sense. I can't help the fact that it makes no sense to you. I'm saying don't over complicate it....they are wrong in the video w/o any explanation. You shouldn't ignore the other things. They are just as important. Feel free to research it. Go to the Gallatain Court house. I appreciate the comments. This all helps actually!
when you say he wanted to get out and he never refused to do this, i see the opposite in the video. they are really trying hard to get him out and he is definately not helping them.
What you see in the video is the police trying to pull the guy out of the car. Why are they pulling him out? What did he do? How did they process this is 6 seconds? The victim, was talking to the police when they attacked him, during the attack he yelled, "I'm not resisting you, I'm not resisting you!" Then all of the audio devices "stopped" working when the trial came. The whole thing is a sham! Eventually, the truth will come out. So, feel free to question or play advocate, that's okay.
And it's not just about being gentle or being severe. If I was an officer, I would use whatever force was deemed necessary for the situation. It's called situational awareness, it's called making sound judgement. I know from the driver that he was trying to talk to them, when they went Redbull/Irrational Cowboy on him. It was a calm scene, no wepons were reported, the driver didn't reach for anything.
After researching the date, april 10 2008 on the interenet, and the fact that you still won't give me any other information. only that there was an alleged police brutality incedent, none of which was visible, I don't believe that the cop was in the wrong. want to change my mind? gimme more to look at.
Again, you don't have to believe it. That's your right. It's in the court records and documents in Gallatin County. I doubt you'll find it on the internet. The cop was absolutely in the wrong. He knows it, his partner knows it and the open-minded, sensible people who know all of the facts know this. Again, ask yourself, why would somebody post this if the police officer wasn't wrong??
right, in a day and age where a cop can't wipe his own behind with out being in the eye of the public, this incident slipped through the cracks?somebody would post this if they had a mission to paint a bad image on the pd. maybe a chi-mo, maybe a druggy, whatever he is, he doesn't want to take responsibilty for his actions
It didn't slip through the cracks yet. From what I hear it's not over. This wouldn't of happened this way in Missoula or any other town in the country. Unlike most charges where you're innocent until proven guilty, when you're charged with resisting arrest you're guilty until proven innocent. The reckless prosecutor and the one officer is trying to let it slip through. Only time will tell if it does.
why was it not on the news? how come i haven't read about it in the paper? these things are not kept quiet if they are true and sometimes even when they are not true. from what you hear its not over? this is bull. if this true, someone needs a better lawyer.
The tape hasn't been released to the media yet. That remains an option. Bozeman is a small town, I don't think the Police or the victim want that. Again, we will use other channels first. I agree, the victim probably needs better legal counsil. That's on the victim.
Eactly, you're smart, if they cut the audio, which is very easy, it makes most people think they are covering their actions. The court records would prove (not hearsay) that all four devices suddenly stopped working. That's one in a million.
yes i understand that if i look in court records its not hearsay, but you telling me this is. And if i wanted to look at the court records, I would need to know the case.
The video is a fact. What I'm telling you is a fact. If you want to say my message is hearsay, and dismiss it, that's fine. Or you could say it's hearsay and believe it. That's fine. Or you can take the obvious and form your own opinions entirely. That's your right too.
and maybe what i am trying to say is that people shouldn't always believe that people posting videos on youtube aren't always tellign the truth. I have still yet to here a case on this so i can research. If i could get this info maybe then I would help you prove your point. I agree that there are definately bad apples out there, and they should be held accountable, but there are better ways of saying it thatn this
I agree, nowadays people are not credible and people post whatever they want. I assure you, I do not have an axe to grind with the BPD. As I said, there are quality guys there as in most PDs. However, we are raised to belive what people say until proven otherwise. I would believe what most people say until I know they are not telling the truth.
Well it's nice to see you stay objective. From what I understand there isn't much that can happen in this case. What is hearsay is that it's going to the supreme court, a civil law could be filed, governers will be contacted, etc. In the end, there isn't much I can do to help or anyone else outside of government.
ok so what case is this? When did it happen? what was the officer's name? Where can i find some reports on the underlying conditions? If there were no underlying conditions why wasn't a civil suit filed?
Well out of respect for the one officer that didn't use sound judgement and the victim in the car, I'm not releasing any names. The truth will come out, the people involved know the truth. What's your interest? Any smart, respectful Christian who believes in the law should questions the actions of the BPD's one officer. There are good guys there, how can they let one guy mess it up???
I am assuming you have no respect for that officer based on what you are trying to do. And are you saying only smart Christian people should question the action of this one BPD officer? if you withold the name "out of respect for the one officer", you yourself are going against what you are trying to accomplish. If you want to blow something wide open then why withold facts? I don't believe a word you are saying.
I don't have respect for the officer now but he could earn that respect. I know for a fact that he was reckless and put his partner and the citizens of the county he represents at risk. Furthermore, I know for a fact that he lied under oath about it. I'm withholding name not because I don't want to get the message out but because maybe as a Christian or a moral person he will come forward and say the truth and fix everything,if he was smart he would. Most people admit when they make mistakes.
You are claiming he is a moral person now?? How can you say he is a christian? the video doesn't show this. and don't confuse representing County S.O. for the City P.D. I know alot of people who have no respect for BPD but tons of it for GCSO. Things like that are why I don't believe everything without solid proof. If he is a Christian, then God will be the judge of his wrongdoing, I'm pretty sure that the Bible tells us "the one without sin can cast the first stone".
When you say the sources are credible and that i "have no idea" you are absolutely right. I don't have any idea and neither does anyone else who hasn't read the court documents. For pete's sake you don't even name what case it was. How the hell am i supposed to read about it. for all I know you could just be the husband of someone who slept with a Bozeman cop and this is the only way you can get back at them.
@firefightinferg It doesn't matter if you "have no idea". Someone wanted me to get the facts out. So that's what's happening. If you want to be naive, that's okay. If you want to blindly support someone, that's okay. That is your right. Learn Police protocol, then watch the video. If you haven't figured it out...you probably never will. Good luck man.
The fact that the audio devices were destroyed or "stopped working" and aren't available has nothing to do with the fact that the officer in this video 1.) put his partner and driver at risk; escalated a calm scene 2.) used excessive force when unnecessary. Regarding this case, get the court records you will see 1.) the 1 officer lied under oath CRIME 2.) the officers destroyed evidence CRIME . Facts don't lie! Truth will come out!!!!
This IS getting news out. Obviously, this was posted to get the truth out! The fact that the video was posted and the police destroyed audio evidence isn't hearsay. These are facts. Read between the lines, the facts are getting out through this post. The sources are credible- you have no idea. Stop reading from your text book, it's not relevant here.
the fact that all you are doing is telling me this IS hearsay. Why don't you post some links that tell more about what happened instead of repeating the same thing over and over. I have never heard that reading a textbook was bad, but this is not out of a textbook, it is common sense. I am not going to believe you just because you said so on youtube. if the sources are credible thats great, but where are they? Your news is not worth a pile of dung if all you have posted is an audioless clip
@firefightinferg Do you know what hearsay is? Obviously, I have sources otherwise I wouldn't have the video. The fact that there is no audio doesn't explain the recklessness of the one officer. Think outside of the box. Your argument is gobledygook.
This is not getting news out. This is just posting a video with no audio on youtube and telling us that the facts are in the court records, -hearsay. If you want people to get the facts, post links, articles, or credible sources with the video that back what you're saying. Don't set out to smear the images of people without hard facts at hand.
@ Ravere20, that is excellent that you're a State Trooper, I actually think it's a cool job and most officers are stand up. However, you even have to admit that people make mistakes, right? In this case, their WAS NO resisting arrest, vanishing audio issues aside, the guy in the car was talking to the officers when they started ripping him from the vehicle, then the officer lied under oath. Again, it's about doing your job right. Thanks!
@Raverave20- I'm definitely not full of it, the people involved know the truth. Sorry, you're not reading all of the posts if you think "I'm talking down" to the Police. My family is full of police officers and Marines....I know it's a tough job. There's a lot of not good people in this world. This case is ABOUT doing your job RIGHT!!!
@raverave20 i pity you ...being brainvvashed at the accademy and all.....'vve the people' all knovv that its impossible for godcomplex cops to ever admit being vvrong....over reacting vvith violent behavior is so common among you guys.....its obvious from the high suicide,adultry,drug and alcohol use among you and your peers,the police are a messed upbunch....i ll pray for you...peace my friend ")
According to my colleague who had the unfortunate dealings with a few reckless police and careless prosecutors in Bozeman, there are some decent police officers and city officials there. The good ones need to fulfill their duties to the community and stand up to irresponsible work performance.
Escalate a calm scene with over zealous, reckless policing, putting officers and citizens at risk + destroying audio evidence + lying under oath = terrible work, service to the community
Actually, as reporters, the key is getting the truth out. So, it really wasn't a waste of time. I wonder how 4 audio devices suddenly stopped working? From a technology standpoint, that is one in a million. It looks like the Bozeman Police department tampered with the evidence. That's a crime. Hopefully, they'll get it right. Bad apples ruin the barrel.
Finally, if you were sworn to uphold the law you should gather some facts instead of trying to do damage control. Furthermore if you were sworn to uphold the law then it's time to be a man and stop looking the other way in light of the truth. Who cares about the guy in the video, how about the one officer putting his partner and citizens at risk!? Terrible policing! Serve and protect is a joke in Bozeman. I hope the BDP starts hiring MEN with integrity.
You forgot something. How can you resist arrest if you are not under arrest? Yes it was unlawful, you are right, but in order for there to be resisting arrest you have to be put under arrest. If I knew his name I would post it. The truth is in the description. Don't get off track. Yes I could handle the job, I have more integrity, respect and honor then the ONE cop in the video. It's scary they let you carry a gun.
No you didn't hit a raw nerve. Unlike you I don't have a vested interest here. A typo isn't stupidity. Escalating a scene that is calm and putting people at risk is stupid. Most police officers are honorable, unfortunately as you point out not everybody is equipped for the job. It is clear that this officer is a prime example of this.
And yes I am a Police Officer sworn to uphold the laws of this great Nation and State. And to thanklessly protect all citizens including you. A job I don't believe a whiner such as yourself could ever handle. Have a nice day
Take a step back. It looks like the comments are posted by officers OR somebody trying to justify their sensless actions! In most professions, people "man up" when they make mistakes. Not the Bozeman PD, they lie and cover-up. I hope they are not all crooked and immoral. Hopefully there are some decent guys over there who do their job the right way!
Maybe if the BPD screened better they could find more intelligent, respectful officers who use sound judgement. Perhaps, RedBull shouldn't be served when officers start their shifts at night. How's the case going with the taser and the drunk, naked guy!?!? Wait until all of their shennanigans reach the federal level! LOL. Sad one bad APPLE ruins it for all. Our committe spoke to 10 officers from different jurisdictions and ALL said the BDP made mistakes!!
Based on this case and others in Bozeman. The BPD has some serious problems. In this case, it appears that one bad apple will ruin it for eveybody. In the end the truth comes out! I have read the court transcripts and the ONE arresting officer is a liar (CRIME). FELONY!! If you can't do your job right, it's time to quit. We pay the PD to serve and protect, not put everybody at risk like an overzealous, irrational clown. I feel sorry for the ONE foolinsh officer! His collegues should be mad!
The PD should drop it. They should be more concerned with the video being in the hands of the governor's office and with the Bozeman City Government. It would be cool if the lying cop took a polygraph test. Can't beat the truth dude!!!
Sadly there are plenty of good guys working for the Bozeman PD. It only takes one bad apple to ruin the barrel. Instead of trying to do damage control and fight the truth the Bozeman PD should do the right thing! Maybe they are scared of a civil lawsuit because of poor policing. Anybody can see the man is innocent!
You are not very intelligent. It's you're" not your". They are not accusations these are facts. All you need is half a brain & the court records to see the truth. How do 4 audio devices stop working at the same time? They stop working when the truth isn't to be heard. The people involved know the truth. If I was a police officer there I'd be upset w/ the officer involved for making a mistake on the job & not being a man about it. The ONE officer is an orangutan w/ no strength or integrity.
I kind of find it funny too that you say he lied under oath provided there is no audio. Accusations... Well, must I say anymore. Oh and Little Man syndrome?? Yeah, whatever. Your not very intelligent if that is all you can come up with.
@ Koster, obviously you weren't there or have knowledge of the case. With that said, things aren't always what they seem. The above details are factual. If you read the statute that makes the man innocent. The police in this case thought that they had carte blanche and put the man and themselves at risk. Shame on them! Everyone should be held accountable for their actions. Even police! The truth always comes out in the end.
Bozeman is a nice town- would be better if the police there followed the law they over zealously try to uphold. Court records which should be public will show the details above are true. I'm sure the video would be posted if the audio were available. The court records indicate the 4 audio devices suddenly stopped working. Not only do you have terrible policing; you have an officer who lies under oath & covers it up -despicable! This is the classic case of a cop having little man syndrome!
No the main officer guilty in this case was not Cody Anderson. The officer, prosecutor and judge in this case should do the right thing and throw this case out/ expunge it completely. People who hold these titles should have good character. This case would've never been prosecuted in any other state/ or city in Montana. Most judges would've thrown this out when they saw the evidence, heard the testimony and watched the video.
FreedomMan1977 1 month ago
lol this was prob Cody Anderson the cop that fucked up big time
WolleytheMonster 2 months ago
@thebestboss31- It is ironic that of the thousands of people that watch this video, you're the ONLY one to discover this. What actually happened was the police attacked the guy in the car, while he was asking them not to attack him, he was holding the steering wheel when the cop slipped from trying to rip him out of the car. I wonder why the cops didn't just talk to the guy?? HMMM.
FreedomMan1977 3 months ago
@toferrr26 It's obvious that you're just a sympathesizing pig. Stick with your own kind. Serve and protect?! yeah fucking right.
countvonjustin 11 months ago
@countvonjustin you're a fucking idiot im 19 years old in washington nothing to do with the fucking police at all i just don't go around bashing law enforcements
toferrr26 10 months ago
@toferrr26 i'm the fucking idiot, but you used zero punction whatsoever in your comment. it's obvious that you're very young and naive, and as a result; i'm sorry for attacking you. you will learn when you grow up and become an adult. i admire your lack of cynicism, but worry about your naivety.
and that's just it, i'm bashing the way they inforced such laws. seems likely some cop had a shitty day, or got his burger with pickles, when he said he DID NOT WANT PICKLES or some shit. shame.
countvonjustin 10 months ago
TO THE PROSECUTOR IN THIS CASE:: WHEN THE OFFICER DESTROYS EVIDENCE YOU DON'T PROSECUTE, WHEN YOU HAVE 5 WITNESSES 'N ONLY ONE IS RELEVANT, YOU DON'T PROSECUTE. WHEN YOUR STAR WITNESS/OFFICER LIES UNDER OATH, YOU DON'T PROSECUTE, WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE AN ARREST WAS MADE, YOU DON'T PROSECUTE. THE BOZEMAN CITY PROSECUTOR IS AS EQUALLY SHAMEFUL AS THE POLICE OFFICER IN THIS CASE. WHERE'S THE BOZEMAN CITY COMMISSION? WHERE'S THE GOVERNOR?? WHERE ARE THE ETHICAL LEADERS??
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago 2
IF THE CITY PROSECUTOR & ONE OFFICER INVOLVED LIVED BY THE SWORD THEY WOULD EACH RECEIVE 5 YEARS FOR THIS CRIME OF THEIRS. THEY ARE A PART OF ONE OF THE MOST MALIGNED JUSTICE SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTRY. SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PLACE WHERE THERE'S NO CRIME OR REVENUE GENERATED FROM CRIME THAT THE POLICE & PROSECUTORS HAVE TO CREATE IT. FURTHERMORE THE PLACE LACKS LEADERS. THEY SIT BACK AND DO NOTHING WHILE CRIMINAL OFFICERS WHO DON'T SERVE OR PROTECT & PROSECUTORS GET AWAY WITH INJUSTICE.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
THE BOZEMAN JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS A JOKE! IT'S A DISGRACE TO AMERICA, IT LACKS LEADERS AND IS DOWNRIGHT SHAMEFUL. ONLY IN BOZEMAN CAN YOU FIND A RECKLESS COP TO RIP SOMEBODY OUT OF THEIR CAR WHEN THEY EXERCISE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THEN DESTROY EVIDENCE, AUDACIOUSLY PROSECUTE, HAVE THE OFFICER LIE UNDER OATH, THEN ASK FOR JAIL TIME FOR A PROFESSIONAL W/ NO CRIMINAL RECORD ON A MISDEMEANOR! THIS BOZEMAN POLICE OFFICER 'N PROSECUTORS ARE CRIMINAL, UNETHICAL & AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO THIS NATION!!!!
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
@Shitraver- I've only heard about Cody Anderson. This officer is different! He knows he made a mistake. They destroyed evidence, and he lied under oath. Justice in Bozeman is a joke! The city prosecutor is shameful and reckless and should be debarred for life!! YOU FLAT OUT DON'T LET THE PD DICTATE WHO AND WHAT TO PROSECUTE. UNFORTUNATELY THEY FAILED AS WELL AS THE ONE RECKLESS OFFICER. IF YOUR PROSECUTORS ARENT BEING THE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, WHERE'S THE OVERSIGHT?
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
Longboard- It sounds like you're right. What they did was wrong! Except the guy in the car never hit the cop. They were too aggressive, too amped up, too overzealous and they slipped when they attacked the driver. IT'S VERY SAD THAT POLICE ARE ALLOWED TO ACT RECKLESS AND THE CITY PROSECUTOR, PUBLIC DEFENDERS, AND JUDGES ALL PROTECT THEM. WHAT A SIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
hello i now many cops.and when i se this ... you see the cops try to get out the boy and the boy hit the cop so he come on the street ...and then most the cops be angry and strong and they was it ... but they talk so little so little wrong was it !
longboard4ever1 1 year ago
I don't like Bozeman cops!! They aren't there to serve the public they are there for their paycheck!
shellydoodle 1 year ago
@toferrr26 Obviously you're affiliated with the BPD, they're the only ones who want to ignore all of the facts and justify the police's reckless behavior here. Obviously, there's no audio so you don't know if he didn't. It obvously looks like they just attacked him.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
@FreedomMan1977 im actually not. im 18 years old from seattle and have nothing to do with the state of montana. i was just stating the fact that the posibility of him trying to resist because you cannot see a thing he is doing and if it takes two officers to get him out of the car there is something going on. and you say that those officers are trying to ignore it or whatever but seems like all you want to do is exploit it with YOUR opinion.
toferrr26 1 year ago
@toferrr26 Well as the story goes, the police (you can use the timer on the video) begin talking and within 6 seconds start pulling the man from the car. The officer stated for a fact that he walked to the car, check the guy for medical attention, introduced himself, then asked twice to get out of the car, followed by the guy's responses. Can that be done in less than 6 seconds? You have to be under arrest to resist arrest and according to court records the guy never refused anything...they
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
@toferrr26 ...just attack the guy. According to reports, while the police are trying to rip the guy from the car for not commiting a crime, the driver yells I'm not resisting, I'm not resisting....he's subsequently tased twice. Sorry, that's abusing your power, using poor judgemnet and being reckless. You take an oath to serve and protect. Not to put your partners and civilians in jeopordy.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
@damn. So how do you explain the lawsuits? How do you explain the one pending? How do you justify ripping somebody out of their car from a calm scene in less than 6 seconds of talking to the victim? I don't see the relevance of the particular officer you're citing. The video doesn't lie.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
It has been my experience that the Bozeman PD is very professional and resort to using force only when absolutely necessary. I remember there was a 16-year veteran a few years ago who lost his job because he used inappropriate force, so I doubt this guy was the victim of police brutality.
danmcn61 1 year ago
Do you mean the sound that would of exhonorated the guy in the car? According to the BPD- all four audio devices stopped working when the guy in the car was hastily attacked.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
A back story? It's a calm scene, there is a neighbor walking around in her night gown. The subject in the car wasn't committing a crime. It's amazing that officers never think they make a mistake.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
The tasering happened after the first officer slipped, the second taser happened when the subject was on the ground. This isn't about tasers- the officers already said they used them.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
Once the male is lifted and taken to the squad car, officers are not holstering any Tasers (or any other weapons for that matter), there are no wires protruding from the subject, etc. I've run this by my supervisor and he concurs.
Unless the tasering happend after the subject is taken back to the squad car, we don't believe there was a Taser involved.
trooper629 1 year ago
It would help if there was sound to the video, or a back story attached. I'm sure that would clear any arguments up.
trooper629 1 year ago
I don't see a Taser being used. Not saying it didn't happen, but if I wasn't told there was a Taser being used, I would have never guessed. Typically when an officer is tasing someone, the other officer is not going "hands on," for fear of getting shocked. It looks as though the officers in this scenario are both going hands on throughout most of the video until after the subject is on the ground.
trooper629 1 year ago
@ dolly- I just read below. Idiot!? I'm sure the guy in the car is smarter than you. Learn something about debate and you'll see that name calling is a falacy in any argument. It makes the debater look like an uneducated clown who has no talking points.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
@dolly- the truth always comes out. As someone who appears to have a vested interest in this- you should know this. Is tampering with evidence a crime? Yes. Is policing subject to human error? Yes. Hopefully the 1 officer gets integrity. Ill pray for him.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
@dolly Try reading. Just b/c you can't see the taser on your parents PC doesn't mean they weren't used. Was the driver committing a crime? No. Are people allowed to exercise speech? Yes. Did the driver refuse to get out? No. Was the driver pulled out? Yes. Lose!? Where? Is lying under oath a crime? Yes.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
@Shitraver What do you mean wow? This video is nothing just some idiot not getting out of his car when told to so the drug him out. There isn't even a taser involved.
dollerholler1 1 year ago
What a diaper load. First off I never did see a taser used. Secondly he was ordered twice (you said so yourself) to get out of the car and he did not. I noticed you give no back story on this. Like why the cops were called on this guy in the first place. Is it becuase you don't know jack about the situation. Or are you the guy in the vid looking for sympathy cuz you tried to fight the cops and lost.
dollerholler1 1 year ago
yea the bozeman cops are stupid as all hell there above the law dont you know
TheBunkerdog 1 year ago
the only facts narrating this video are coming from YOU. why should I believe YOU? That would be naive. the definition of hearsay evidence is: evidence based not on a witness's personal knowledge but on another's statement not made under oath -Merriam Webster online dictionary
firefightinferg 2 years ago
Hearsay doesn't apply, the video and your eyes show you exactly what happened. The rest of the story, if not believed can by found in the Gallatin County Court records.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
hearsay should apply for everything. thats how rumors get started. The only thing that this video shows is what you see. It doesn't tell you about why the cops showed up, the reason why they were called there, who the man being arrested is-Does he have wants or warrants? is he known for being emotionally unstable or violent? Is he violating a restraining order? these underlying questions are why i would like to see the court records. but i don't even know the name of the case.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
Well if you think hearsay is relevant here, that is your opinion. You're obviously bright and understand enough to form your own opinions. It's very simple, to resist arrest you must be under arrest. It's not rocket science to see that the guy was pulled from his car of a calm scene within 6 seconds of making contact with him. When you're are a police officer some people have warrants, some people are irrational it's not an easy job. That's why there is very clear protocol to follow.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
Should I now then go around telling your story like you did with your friend? Thats gossip and Christians aren't supposed to gossip right? it is not clear that what is happening in the car is a "calm scene". I can't even read the license plate. If you were in law enforcement you would know that protocols are anything but clear depending on the millions of scenarios that they are faced with. thats why i question what you are telling me.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
Again, call it what you want. It happened, it's real. Christians have morals. The right thing is sharing the truth. So, how can you process the million scenarios and follow protocol in 6 seconds? Please explain.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
I am not sure why you are bringing Christianity into this. Not all christians have morals. And there are protocols cops follow to be safe. obviously if you could process every scenario that fast we wouldn't have dead cops. the fact is is that they try, and thats all they can do.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
Unfortunately it is a dangerous job. They try, just like most of us at our jobs. However, they are human and humans make mistakes. Just b/c they're officers, doesn't mean they can do whatever they choose. Bozeman is a relatively safe town. It's easy to go too far in keeping this town safe.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
How do i know that you didn't cut out the audio to make it look like they did? How do i know that the guy in the car didn't just get done committing a crime before they pulled up? How do i know that he wasn't reaching for a weapon right before they pulled him out? if you cut the audio, which is very easy, it might make one think they are covering up their actions.
firefightinferg 2 years ago
This is the polices tape without any editing. There was no crime being committed when the police pulled up and it's safe (see the lady walking around in her night gown?). How do you know he was reaching for a gun? If no crime is being committed and there was no report of a gun why would it even matter, you would just talk to the driver. Protocol throught the nation is called de-escalation it's called serve and protect the only way you can do that is through communication and reason.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
protocol is de-escalation. but not over the officers own safety. if the man didn't want to step out of the vehicle, then, the officers had the right to remove him. That is assuming the man was suspected of breaking the law. If they just pulled up to a car and yanked him out then yes he should be held accountable, but the only supporting evidence of that is what you are telling me.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
You're right! Exactly. If the man didn't want to step out of the vehicle they have the right to remove him. Understood! However, if the man did want to get out of the car (let's say he was trying to talk to them or was injured) then they should be held accountable. Now why do you think somebody would want this posted if it was the first senario and not the second??
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
He wanted to get out?? The one fell over trying to get him out! I do agree the if he was injured then they should have been more gentle. but that guy was walking fine in the end, and he was a pretty big guy.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
Well it looks like it all went down in 6 seconds. How do you follow protocol, check if somebody is okay in that time? The truth according to the victim is he was talking to them, when they ripped him out. He never refused. Talking is what 1st or 2nd ammendment? The driver if not committing a crime has that right. We live in a civilized world, why would you just attack somebody like that?
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
i would assume there is history prior to this video. cops aren't going to jepardize their career by taking a random guy into custody for no reason.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
Prior history with the BPD being reckless or prior history with the victim? The victim is a professional. The victim has no criminal record. The victim wasn't commiting a crime. The victim was pulled out of his car in less than 6 seconds. It's very, very clear. You don't have to believe what your eye sees. These are facts man.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
so who are you trying to pick on the "one bad apple" or the BPD?
firefightinferg 1 year ago
No one is trying to pick on either. I personally think It's a tough job, honorable profession. What happened was wrong. We are all human. Humans make mistakes. When you make a mistake you don't go after the other person. You accept responsibility and move on. According to my sources the officer could of not charged the victim but charged him dispite making a mistake. The officer could go to his supervisor and make it all go away....but apparently they want attention. So be it.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
yeah and any cop who was in the wrong would drop them. the last thing any gov't agency wants is attention and that is why i think you are full of it.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
Well that's your opinion. Your reasoning and logic don't make any sense to me but hey, this is America. We are free to believe as we wish. Did it ever occur to you that maybe them prosecuting a criminal charge whould hedge a civil lawsuit?? Well this cop was in the wrong and they didn't drop it...so that makes your point invalid.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
I am assuming you are saying the officer didn't drop the charges of resisting arrest. so let me ask you this, what other charge was the individual cited for?
firefightinferg 1 year ago
what you say makes no sense. you just keep telling me to look at the video, ignore anything else that might be in question and don't bother trying to research it.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
No what I say makes perfect sense. I can't help the fact that it makes no sense to you. I'm saying don't over complicate it....they are wrong in the video w/o any explanation. You shouldn't ignore the other things. They are just as important. Feel free to research it. Go to the Gallatain Court house. I appreciate the comments. This all helps actually!
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
when you say he wanted to get out and he never refused to do this, i see the opposite in the video. they are really trying hard to get him out and he is definately not helping them.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
What you see in the video is the police trying to pull the guy out of the car. Why are they pulling him out? What did he do? How did they process this is 6 seconds? The victim, was talking to the police when they attacked him, during the attack he yelled, "I'm not resisting you, I'm not resisting you!" Then all of the audio devices "stopped" working when the trial came. The whole thing is a sham! Eventually, the truth will come out. So, feel free to question or play advocate, that's okay.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
And it's not just about being gentle or being severe. If I was an officer, I would use whatever force was deemed necessary for the situation. It's called situational awareness, it's called making sound judgement. I know from the driver that he was trying to talk to them, when they went Redbull/Irrational Cowboy on him. It was a calm scene, no wepons were reported, the driver didn't reach for anything.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
After researching the date, april 10 2008 on the interenet, and the fact that you still won't give me any other information. only that there was an alleged police brutality incedent, none of which was visible, I don't believe that the cop was in the wrong. want to change my mind? gimme more to look at.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
Again, you don't have to believe it. That's your right. It's in the court records and documents in Gallatin County. I doubt you'll find it on the internet. The cop was absolutely in the wrong. He knows it, his partner knows it and the open-minded, sensible people who know all of the facts know this. Again, ask yourself, why would somebody post this if the police officer wasn't wrong??
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
right, in a day and age where a cop can't wipe his own behind with out being in the eye of the public, this incident slipped through the cracks?somebody would post this if they had a mission to paint a bad image on the pd. maybe a chi-mo, maybe a druggy, whatever he is, he doesn't want to take responsibilty for his actions
firefightinferg 1 year ago
It didn't slip through the cracks yet. From what I hear it's not over. This wouldn't of happened this way in Missoula or any other town in the country. Unlike most charges where you're innocent until proven guilty, when you're charged with resisting arrest you're guilty until proven innocent. The reckless prosecutor and the one officer is trying to let it slip through. Only time will tell if it does.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
why was it not on the news? how come i haven't read about it in the paper? these things are not kept quiet if they are true and sometimes even when they are not true. from what you hear its not over? this is bull. if this true, someone needs a better lawyer.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
The tape hasn't been released to the media yet. That remains an option. Bozeman is a small town, I don't think the Police or the victim want that. Again, we will use other channels first. I agree, the victim probably needs better legal counsil. That's on the victim.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
after 2 years it hasn't been released? The media is probably going to laugh if you bring them this video.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
Someone would also post this if they were a professional and did no wrong.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
no, those people go to the press. people who want it to look like they did no wrong post thier own stuff on youtube.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
Eactly, you're smart, if they cut the audio, which is very easy, it makes most people think they are covering their actions. The court records would prove (not hearsay) that all four devices suddenly stopped working. That's one in a million.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
yes i understand that if i look in court records its not hearsay, but you telling me this is. And if i wanted to look at the court records, I would need to know the case.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
The video is a fact. What I'm telling you is a fact. If you want to say my message is hearsay, and dismiss it, that's fine. Or you could say it's hearsay and believe it. That's fine. Or you can take the obvious and form your own opinions entirely. That's your right too.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
and maybe what i am trying to say is that people shouldn't always believe that people posting videos on youtube aren't always tellign the truth. I have still yet to here a case on this so i can research. If i could get this info maybe then I would help you prove your point. I agree that there are definately bad apples out there, and they should be held accountable, but there are better ways of saying it thatn this
firefightinferg 1 year ago
I agree, nowadays people are not credible and people post whatever they want. I assure you, I do not have an axe to grind with the BPD. As I said, there are quality guys there as in most PDs. However, we are raised to belive what people say until proven otherwise. I would believe what most people say until I know they are not telling the truth.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
Well it's nice to see you stay objective. From what I understand there isn't much that can happen in this case. What is hearsay is that it's going to the supreme court, a civil law could be filed, governers will be contacted, etc. In the end, there isn't much I can do to help or anyone else outside of government.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
ok so what case is this? When did it happen? what was the officer's name? Where can i find some reports on the underlying conditions? If there were no underlying conditions why wasn't a civil suit filed?
firefightinferg 2 years ago
Well out of respect for the one officer that didn't use sound judgement and the victim in the car, I'm not releasing any names. The truth will come out, the people involved know the truth. What's your interest? Any smart, respectful Christian who believes in the law should questions the actions of the BPD's one officer. There are good guys there, how can they let one guy mess it up???
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
I am assuming you have no respect for that officer based on what you are trying to do. And are you saying only smart Christian people should question the action of this one BPD officer? if you withold the name "out of respect for the one officer", you yourself are going against what you are trying to accomplish. If you want to blow something wide open then why withold facts? I don't believe a word you are saying.
firefightinferg 1 year ago
I don't have respect for the officer now but he could earn that respect. I know for a fact that he was reckless and put his partner and the citizens of the county he represents at risk. Furthermore, I know for a fact that he lied under oath about it. I'm withholding name not because I don't want to get the message out but because maybe as a Christian or a moral person he will come forward and say the truth and fix everything,if he was smart he would. Most people admit when they make mistakes.
FreedomMan1977 1 year ago
You are claiming he is a moral person now?? How can you say he is a christian? the video doesn't show this. and don't confuse representing County S.O. for the City P.D. I know alot of people who have no respect for BPD but tons of it for GCSO. Things like that are why I don't believe everything without solid proof. If he is a Christian, then God will be the judge of his wrongdoing, I'm pretty sure that the Bible tells us "the one without sin can cast the first stone".
firefightinferg 1 year ago
When you say the sources are credible and that i "have no idea" you are absolutely right. I don't have any idea and neither does anyone else who hasn't read the court documents. For pete's sake you don't even name what case it was. How the hell am i supposed to read about it. for all I know you could just be the husband of someone who slept with a Bozeman cop and this is the only way you can get back at them.
firefightinferg 2 years ago
@firefightinferg It doesn't matter if you "have no idea". Someone wanted me to get the facts out. So that's what's happening. If you want to be naive, that's okay. If you want to blindly support someone, that's okay. That is your right. Learn Police protocol, then watch the video. If you haven't figured it out...you probably never will. Good luck man.
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
The fact that the audio devices were destroyed or "stopped working" and aren't available has nothing to do with the fact that the officer in this video 1.) put his partner and driver at risk; escalated a calm scene 2.) used excessive force when unnecessary. Regarding this case, get the court records you will see 1.) the 1 officer lied under oath CRIME 2.) the officers destroyed evidence CRIME . Facts don't lie! Truth will come out!!!!
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
This IS getting news out. Obviously, this was posted to get the truth out! The fact that the video was posted and the police destroyed audio evidence isn't hearsay. These are facts. Read between the lines, the facts are getting out through this post. The sources are credible- you have no idea. Stop reading from your text book, it's not relevant here.
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
the fact that all you are doing is telling me this IS hearsay. Why don't you post some links that tell more about what happened instead of repeating the same thing over and over. I have never heard that reading a textbook was bad, but this is not out of a textbook, it is common sense. I am not going to believe you just because you said so on youtube. if the sources are credible thats great, but where are they? Your news is not worth a pile of dung if all you have posted is an audioless clip
firefightinferg 2 years ago
@firefightinferg Do you know what hearsay is? Obviously, I have sources otherwise I wouldn't have the video. The fact that there is no audio doesn't explain the recklessness of the one officer. Think outside of the box. Your argument is gobledygook.
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
This is not getting news out. This is just posting a video with no audio on youtube and telling us that the facts are in the court records, -hearsay. If you want people to get the facts, post links, articles, or credible sources with the video that back what you're saying. Don't set out to smear the images of people without hard facts at hand.
firefightinferg 2 years ago
Freedom.... I would be willing to bet rave isnt a officer at all. LOL
dcmorey74 2 years ago
@ Ravere20, that is excellent that you're a State Trooper, I actually think it's a cool job and most officers are stand up. However, you even have to admit that people make mistakes, right? In this case, their WAS NO resisting arrest, vanishing audio issues aside, the guy in the car was talking to the officers when they started ripping him from the vehicle, then the officer lied under oath. Again, it's about doing your job right. Thanks!
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
@Raverave20- I'm definitely not full of it, the people involved know the truth. Sorry, you're not reading all of the posts if you think "I'm talking down" to the Police. My family is full of police officers and Marines....I know it's a tough job. There's a lot of not good people in this world. This case is ABOUT doing your job RIGHT!!!
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
Freedom man, your so full of it. The reason there is no audio here is because
1) not all officers wear mics (its not required)
2) police dont have to release videos with sound
3) the camera itself in the cruiser doesnt record sound
Dont post videos and talk down about police officers, get you facts straight.
raverave20 2 years ago
@raverave20 i pity you ...being brainvvashed at the accademy and all.....'vve the people' all knovv that its impossible for godcomplex cops to ever admit being vvrong....over reacting vvith violent behavior is so common among you guys.....its obvious from the high suicide,adultry,drug and alcohol use among you and your peers,the police are a messed upbunch....i ll pray for you...peace my friend ")
treon123456 2 years ago
our dash cams record sound, and so do the cams of three neighboring states
hutchensriley 2 years ago
According to my colleague who had the unfortunate dealings with a few reckless police and careless prosecutors in Bozeman, there are some decent police officers and city officials there. The good ones need to fulfill their duties to the community and stand up to irresponsible work performance.
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
Escalate a calm scene with over zealous, reckless policing, putting officers and citizens at risk + destroying audio evidence + lying under oath = terrible work, service to the community
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
Actually, as reporters, the key is getting the truth out. So, it really wasn't a waste of time. I wonder how 4 audio devices suddenly stopped working? From a technology standpoint, that is one in a million. It looks like the Bozeman Police department tampered with the evidence. That's a crime. Hopefully, they'll get it right. Bad apples ruin the barrel.
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
its hard to prove anybody's point if their is no sound for anyone to hear the conversation.
this upload was a waist of time without the sound
ColonelTaps 2 years ago
Finally, if you were sworn to uphold the law you should gather some facts instead of trying to do damage control. Furthermore if you were sworn to uphold the law then it's time to be a man and stop looking the other way in light of the truth. Who cares about the guy in the video, how about the one officer putting his partner and citizens at risk!? Terrible policing! Serve and protect is a joke in Bozeman. I hope the BDP starts hiring MEN with integrity.
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
You forgot something. How can you resist arrest if you are not under arrest? Yes it was unlawful, you are right, but in order for there to be resisting arrest you have to be put under arrest. If I knew his name I would post it. The truth is in the description. Don't get off track. Yes I could handle the job, I have more integrity, respect and honor then the ONE cop in the video. It's scary they let you carry a gun.
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
No you didn't hit a raw nerve. Unlike you I don't have a vested interest here. A typo isn't stupidity. Escalating a scene that is calm and putting people at risk is stupid. Most police officers are honorable, unfortunately as you point out not everybody is equipped for the job. It is clear that this officer is a prime example of this.
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
And yes I am a Police Officer sworn to uphold the laws of this great Nation and State. And to thanklessly protect all citizens including you. A job I don't believe a whiner such as yourself could ever handle. Have a nice day
14yrsleo 2 years ago
Take a step back. It looks like the comments are posted by officers OR somebody trying to justify their sensless actions! In most professions, people "man up" when they make mistakes. Not the Bozeman PD, they lie and cover-up. I hope they are not all crooked and immoral. Hopefully there are some decent guys over there who do their job the right way!
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
Maybe if the BPD screened better they could find more intelligent, respectful officers who use sound judgement. Perhaps, RedBull shouldn't be served when officers start their shifts at night. How's the case going with the taser and the drunk, naked guy!?!? Wait until all of their shennanigans reach the federal level! LOL. Sad one bad APPLE ruins it for all. Our committe spoke to 10 officers from different jurisdictions and ALL said the BDP made mistakes!!
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
Based on this case and others in Bozeman. The BPD has some serious problems. In this case, it appears that one bad apple will ruin it for eveybody. In the end the truth comes out! I have read the court transcripts and the ONE arresting officer is a liar (CRIME). FELONY!! If you can't do your job right, it's time to quit. We pay the PD to serve and protect, not put everybody at risk like an overzealous, irrational clown. I feel sorry for the ONE foolinsh officer! His collegues should be mad!
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
The PD should drop it. They should be more concerned with the video being in the hands of the governor's office and with the Bozeman City Government. It would be cool if the lying cop took a polygraph test. Can't beat the truth dude!!!
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
Sadly there are plenty of good guys working for the Bozeman PD. It only takes one bad apple to ruin the barrel. Instead of trying to do damage control and fight the truth the Bozeman PD should do the right thing! Maybe they are scared of a civil lawsuit because of poor policing. Anybody can see the man is innocent!
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
You are not very intelligent. It's you're" not your". They are not accusations these are facts. All you need is half a brain & the court records to see the truth. How do 4 audio devices stop working at the same time? They stop working when the truth isn't to be heard. The people involved know the truth. If I was a police officer there I'd be upset w/ the officer involved for making a mistake on the job & not being a man about it. The ONE officer is an orangutan w/ no strength or integrity.
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
I kind of find it funny too that you say he lied under oath provided there is no audio. Accusations... Well, must I say anymore. Oh and Little Man syndrome?? Yeah, whatever. Your not very intelligent if that is all you can come up with.
explorersgt 2 years ago
@ Koster, obviously you weren't there or have knowledge of the case. With that said, things aren't always what they seem. The above details are factual. If you read the statute that makes the man innocent. The police in this case thought that they had carte blanche and put the man and themselves at risk. Shame on them! Everyone should be held accountable for their actions. Even police! The truth always comes out in the end.
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago
Bozeman is a nice town- would be better if the police there followed the law they over zealously try to uphold. Court records which should be public will show the details above are true. I'm sure the video would be posted if the audio were available. The court records indicate the 4 audio devices suddenly stopped working. Not only do you have terrible policing; you have an officer who lies under oath & covers it up -despicable! This is the classic case of a cop having little man syndrome!
FreedomMan1977 2 years ago