lots and lots of air (at first) and instead of pushing the tip of your tongue to the roof of your mouth, try touching just behind the soft palate (that shelf just behind your teeth) with the front part of your tongue, about 1/4 inch back from the tip. Be patient and keep trying stuff. You'll get it. Might take a couple weeks of trying. Probably less, though.
Hey, I am a new to advanced band (only 1 year experience) trumpet player as 2nd chair, where the first chair and me share some music. I just cant get this as I try to play it in a little fun song for elementary students at another school. It's called "Stomping on Ants" by Jane Russell Bate. You can search it if you'd like it's the first pop up, it has a music player for free on it and you can hear it. Only think that I've come close to is sticking my tongue more forward but that's not it.
Hi Jon. Could you advise me what would be a good all round mpc for someone returning to his trumpet after 10yrs+ ??? I don't have trouble producing a nice tone, but I need a different mpc to the Shew Jazz mpc that came with my 8310z. What would be a good mpc to help ease me back into all parts of my range, improving my articulation again, and for playing not just jazz but classical too??? I used to be ok (gd 8), but I need practice!! Thanks for all your help and great vids! Lawrence, London, UK.
Glad you're getting back to the horn! The very best mouthpieces out there (for sound, intonation, comfort) are the Monette mouthpieces. Unfortunately they're around $250! If you don't want to dump that kind of money into a mouthpiece, the Bach, Marcincowicz (I'm sure I spelled that wrong), and a few others are good. You'll want a 'piece that is shallow enough to give you some range, but deep enough to give a good tone. A Bach 5C would be a good one, 3C even....
(ran out of space :-) If you go to the Free Stuff section of my site, you can find a mouthpiece chart that maps out the sizes and gives you a rough idea of how they compare across brands. Its a free PDF download. That site is 3w [dot] AllAboutTrumpet [dot]com. Just click on the "Free Stuff" tab, then the "Sound The Trumpet" tab and you'll see a bunch of free resources. Let me know if you have any questions. Good luck!
Thanks! The horn is a Monette Bb, an early one (1989) that I think they're calling a "classic style" but I'm not sure. What I am sure of is that I love it. :-)
no, you still can do it. Rolling r's is different. There's less air involved and the tongue doesn't have time to really flap. It takes a lot of practice (and maybe a lesson or two), but you should be able to do it. If the flutter doesn't come easily, you can make a growl sound almost the same....
A little trick i found which im sure alot of people have found, is that if you find this method too difficult you can just pretend to gargle with ur throat while you play, this will produce the same sound as the flutter tongue
I speak with a guttural R, but I don't get to use it for flutter tongue. So I guess it doesn't make the same sound. The sound is more brutal with the alveolar trill. I guess you can use the guttural trill for a softer flutter.
that's interesting. For me the guttural flutter is much louder b/c I have to put more air behind it to make the horn speak. I'm going to try to do it softly to see if I can.....
@jharnum oh. ok. I guess it works that way for me because I've always used a soft guttural r because of my dialect. At least I've always been told not to use the guttural r for flutter. I always have to use way more air for the other trill, 'cause the guttural r generally requires less effort to make.
What have you tried so far? Be sure to use LOTS of air, follow the instructions on the vid closely. Try the growl, too. Similar effect. Best advice = find a teacher/player who can do it to show you in person. Lots easier to figure out this way....
lots and lots of air (at first) and instead of pushing the tip of your tongue to the roof of your mouth, try touching just behind the soft palate (that shelf just behind your teeth) with the front part of your tongue, about 1/4 inch back from the tip. Be patient and keep trying stuff. You'll get it. Might take a couple weeks of trying. Probably less, though.
jharnum 6 months ago
Hey, I am a new to advanced band (only 1 year experience) trumpet player as 2nd chair, where the first chair and me share some music. I just cant get this as I try to play it in a little fun song for elementary students at another school. It's called "Stomping on Ants" by Jane Russell Bate. You can search it if you'd like it's the first pop up, it has a music player for free on it and you can hear it. Only think that I've come close to is sticking my tongue more forward but that's not it.
ColdRider112 6 months ago
Hi Jon. Could you advise me what would be a good all round mpc for someone returning to his trumpet after 10yrs+ ??? I don't have trouble producing a nice tone, but I need a different mpc to the Shew Jazz mpc that came with my 8310z. What would be a good mpc to help ease me back into all parts of my range, improving my articulation again, and for playing not just jazz but classical too??? I used to be ok (gd 8), but I need practice!! Thanks for all your help and great vids! Lawrence, London, UK.
Troubadour29 6 months ago
@Troubadour29
Hi Lawrence-
Glad you're getting back to the horn! The very best mouthpieces out there (for sound, intonation, comfort) are the Monette mouthpieces. Unfortunately they're around $250! If you don't want to dump that kind of money into a mouthpiece, the Bach, Marcincowicz (I'm sure I spelled that wrong), and a few others are good. You'll want a 'piece that is shallow enough to give you some range, but deep enough to give a good tone. A Bach 5C would be a good one, 3C even....
jharnum 6 months ago
@Troubadour29
(ran out of space :-) If you go to the Free Stuff section of my site, you can find a mouthpiece chart that maps out the sizes and gives you a rough idea of how they compare across brands. Its a free PDF download. That site is 3w [dot] AllAboutTrumpet [dot]com. Just click on the "Free Stuff" tab, then the "Sound The Trumpet" tab and you'll see a bunch of free resources. Let me know if you have any questions. Good luck!
jharnum 6 months ago
Thanks! The horn is a Monette Bb, an early one (1989) that I think they're calling a "classic style" but I'm not sure. What I am sure of is that I love it. :-)
jharnum 9 months ago
lol
killerwhale333 9 months ago
lol i just tried it, did it twice in a row perfectly first two times and now it's just completely failing all the way..
ThinkerNinja 1 year ago
You can't do it if you can't roll your r's right. Because I can't roll my r's, I have tried A LOT, trust me.
freddytherubberducky 1 year ago
@freddytherubberducky
no, you still can do it. Rolling r's is different. There's less air involved and the tongue doesn't have time to really flap. It takes a lot of practice (and maybe a lesson or two), but you should be able to do it. If the flutter doesn't come easily, you can make a growl sound almost the same....
jharnum 1 year ago
one time i was playing a solo at a concert and i did this on accident. every one thought wow that was cool
liljimi321 1 year ago
meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Mexican American :D
lurovi23 1 year ago
Who knew being hispanic would help you play an instrument easier! XD
DanielProctor775 1 year ago
A little trick i found which im sure alot of people have found, is that if you find this method too difficult you can just pretend to gargle with ur throat while you play, this will produce the same sound as the flutter tongue
2E0N0W2 1 year ago
@2E0N0W2
I speak with a guttural R, but I don't get to use it for flutter tongue. So I guess it doesn't make the same sound. The sound is more brutal with the alveolar trill. I guess you can use the guttural trill for a softer flutter.
ThSkBj 10 months ago
@ThSkBj
that's interesting. For me the guttural flutter is much louder b/c I have to put more air behind it to make the horn speak. I'm going to try to do it softly to see if I can.....
jharnum 10 months ago
@jharnum oh. ok. I guess it works that way for me because I've always used a soft guttural r because of my dialect. At least I've always been told not to use the guttural r for flutter. I always have to use way more air for the other trill, 'cause the guttural r generally requires less effort to make.
ThSkBj 10 months ago
i love doing this technique with a toilet plunger mute
NANU1115 1 year ago
true story!
jharnum 1 year ago
I am a trumpet player and can not flutter tung but I will try your tips and see if they works. thanks for the vid.
nickey3067 2 years ago
Good luck! Let me know if you have any questions. JH
jharnum 2 years ago
i have a question about this vid. can anyone do this because i have trouble doing this
brian.
trumpetplayer231 1 year ago
I might be able to help. What's up?
jharnum 1 year ago
ok i am trying to flutter my tounge but will not do much can you help me to do this better i cant really flutter my tounge at all :(
-brian
trumpetplayer231 1 year ago
@trumpetplayer231
What have you tried so far? Be sure to use LOTS of air, follow the instructions on the vid closely. Try the growl, too. Similar effect. Best advice = find a teacher/player who can do it to show you in person. Lots easier to figure out this way....
jharnum 1 year ago
@trumpetplayer231 you can do the spanish hard "r" or rolling r. Thats all. (its a lot user to us, hispanophones
oldakustikblues 1 year ago
nice. good vid.
mbuggy11 2 years ago