This must be one of the few videos where the comments are from people who know the job. My only experience is soft eyes in 3" manila or hemp for mooring lines on river cruisers. That doesn't bite back!
Yep...that is a speedy splice alright...well done...a straight up Liverpool right?...I did not notice if there was a lock tuck. I was in riggin loft a few years myself...some splicing which was a nice change from the 500pc orders for chokers...got to doing Flemish eyes in my sleep....lol. I liked doin spelter sockets...they were fun...but splicin was my favorite...specially the cut-hand splice...customers liked it because it had no jaggers....I liked it cuz it was fun to do...LOL
Thanks Chris - I'd always assumed that a clever robotic machine of some sort performed those difficult splices on wire rope. Turns out that the clever robot is indeed you. Cheeses! You must need steak and eggs for breakfast. One false move and you'd have your finger "squeezed" in one of the openings created by that steel fid, yet you're tossing the thing around with the same assurance as granny tatting with her crochet hooks! I guess you'd lose your rhythm if you tried to slow it down. Cheers!
@peteacher52 Oh no, you'd never get your finger stuck in one of those ... you're much more likely to slip and lose your grip on a tail you're splicing in, and it goes whipping around.
Anyone who's done this, has been hit by in the face by one of those tails springing back on them.
Even if you're the nicest guy in the world, it makes you violently, instantly mad -- you'd punch babies, if there were any nearby.
@chrstphrr Cheers Chris, and may you never have such a bathplug of an accident, but tell your mates to leave their babies at home just to be prudent!!
I rigged for 3 years and NEVER had to do one of these, lol. The "big jobs" we did were with synthetic ropes and then the occasional order of 10-20 1 1/2" slings, standard and thimble sized eyes. 2 riggers, that was it. We did spelter sockets and poured larger cables but recently everything sized up so 2 3/8" is "outdated" now for those boom cranes. Really though, is it just a locking splice? Also, heavygrippers, google it. Helped me tons. handgrippers that go up to 350lbs. I'm at 250
Looks like you are making a Liverpool splice - running the wire around one strand. It's iliegal in Australia and NZ, but in reality there's nothing wrong with it on a direct pull.
On the waterfont in NZ we used the British Board of Trade splice. The entrance has a 'lock tuck' and looks awkward. After the entrance, it's over one and under two, finishing with a half tuck, ie using only 3 strands. Our prefered method was to make a Liverpool entrance, then go over one under 2.
I've seen plenty of comments, but no mention of what actually IS done in the UK in lieu of the finish done here.
Note that, what was not done on these in the video, was the torching off of the tails so that they're finished stubs as long as the diameter of the rope (i.e. 1 inch in this case), and all the strands in each tail are fused together in doing so.
The slings have each of two eyes hook onto an ear of a skid; the center of the sling is hooked onto a tail chain of a winchline.
The load sling then rolls over a live roll on the trailer's loading end, so this splice / sling gets abused while "loading" (hence the name), instead of the winchline.
After enough uses, it's discarded as a wear part, for a new sling.
The oilfield hauling companies go through thousands of these per year, in Alberta, Canada alone.
i usto be a rigger ropeman a few years ago i worked for british ropes for 12 years doing all splices from standard loops to anchor ropes for oilrigs also long splicing blast nets torpedo nets bridge ropes all crane ropes
we could do mine sweeper ropes cradles for lifting submarines out of the water anything and everything i also usto splice a 52mm rope single handed we spliced the worlds largest rope aswell also my father spliced the worlds longest rope and also installed the longest and deepest manrider in a gold mine
Was only wearing my normal eyeglasses at this time.
I haven't found a good pair of safety glasses that fit over them without making both fall off more easily when you're sweating in the summer. And I'm too nearsighted without glasses to wear just safety glasses alone. Tried it and got hit more that way.
@chrstphrr yeah nice splice dude,but you in a shop with nice new rope.now do it in the mud with an abused logging rope that cracks up when tucking etc,not fun,oh and holding the eye between your legs.bet you still do a better job of it than me ha ha.
I've had to re-eye thimble eyes on used rope rarely. We'd never tag them, because, those were usually eyes on winchlines. With the lay of the rope all stretched out, it used to spring away from itself.
I know we had to splice some poorer quality rope into these same loading slings. Every strand on every lay would fan out when cut. So, I feel for you having had suffered splicing used rope.
ps that's 3" in old measure ( circumference)
spentacle 4 months ago in playlist Liked
This must be one of the few videos where the comments are from people who know the job. My only experience is soft eyes in 3" manila or hemp for mooring lines on river cruisers. That doesn't bite back!
spentacle 4 months ago
Yep...that is a speedy splice alright...well done...a straight up Liverpool right?...I did not notice if there was a lock tuck. I was in riggin loft a few years myself...some splicing which was a nice change from the 500pc orders for chokers...got to doing Flemish eyes in my sleep....lol. I liked doin spelter sockets...they were fun...but splicin was my favorite...specially the cut-hand splice...customers liked it because it had no jaggers....I liked it cuz it was fun to do...LOL
Great vid!!!
lusthawk61 1 year ago
Thanks Chris - I'd always assumed that a clever robotic machine of some sort performed those difficult splices on wire rope. Turns out that the clever robot is indeed you. Cheeses! You must need steak and eggs for breakfast. One false move and you'd have your finger "squeezed" in one of the openings created by that steel fid, yet you're tossing the thing around with the same assurance as granny tatting with her crochet hooks! I guess you'd lose your rhythm if you tried to slow it down. Cheers!
peteacher52 1 year ago
@peteacher52 Oh no, you'd never get your finger stuck in one of those ... you're much more likely to slip and lose your grip on a tail you're splicing in, and it goes whipping around.
Anyone who's done this, has been hit by in the face by one of those tails springing back on them.
Even if you're the nicest guy in the world, it makes you violently, instantly mad -- you'd punch babies, if there were any nearby.
chrstphrr 1 year ago
@chrstphrr Cheers Chris, and may you never have such a bathplug of an accident, but tell your mates to leave their babies at home just to be prudent!!
peteacher52 1 year ago
Guiness world record right here!
ThePhatdog 1 year ago
I rigged for 3 years and NEVER had to do one of these, lol. The "big jobs" we did were with synthetic ropes and then the occasional order of 10-20 1 1/2" slings, standard and thimble sized eyes. 2 riggers, that was it. We did spelter sockets and poured larger cables but recently everything sized up so 2 3/8" is "outdated" now for those boom cranes. Really though, is it just a locking splice? Also, heavygrippers, google it. Helped me tons. handgrippers that go up to 350lbs. I'm at 250
jackkoon 2 years ago
We also used to spice non-rotating wire for dockside cranes, the largest which had 64 strands.
More baffling though is left hand langs lay, used in elevators and spliced in the opposite direction to normal. Damn confusing!
I was taught to never fight the wire and never use a hammer, though we had to use hammers and added manpower when spicing 7" slipway wires.
rexarchibad 2 years ago
Looks like you are making a Liverpool splice - running the wire around one strand. It's iliegal in Australia and NZ, but in reality there's nothing wrong with it on a direct pull.
On the waterfont in NZ we used the British Board of Trade splice. The entrance has a 'lock tuck' and looks awkward. After the entrance, it's over one and under two, finishing with a half tuck, ie using only 3 strands. Our prefered method was to make a Liverpool entrance, then go over one under 2.
rexarchibad 2 years ago
easy splice when you just run the strand up would never pass safety standards in uk but depends what its used for
gazza3166 2 years ago
I've seen plenty of comments, but no mention of what actually IS done in the UK in lieu of the finish done here.
Note that, what was not done on these in the video, was the torching off of the tails so that they're finished stubs as long as the diameter of the rope (i.e. 1 inch in this case), and all the strands in each tail are fused together in doing so.
chrstphrr 2 years ago
The slings have each of two eyes hook onto an ear of a skid; the center of the sling is hooked onto a tail chain of a winchline.
The load sling then rolls over a live roll on the trailer's loading end, so this splice / sling gets abused while "loading" (hence the name), instead of the winchline.
After enough uses, it's discarded as a wear part, for a new sling.
The oilfield hauling companies go through thousands of these per year, in Alberta, Canada alone.
chrstphrr 2 years ago
i usto be a rigger ropeman a few years ago i worked for british ropes for 12 years doing all splices from standard loops to anchor ropes for oilrigs also long splicing blast nets torpedo nets bridge ropes all crane ropes
gazza3166 2 years ago
we could do mine sweeper ropes cradles for lifting submarines out of the water anything and everything i also usto splice a 52mm rope single handed we spliced the worlds largest rope aswell also my father spliced the worlds longest rope and also installed the longest and deepest manrider in a gold mine
gazza3166 2 years ago
we also done production splicing to make our money we had to do so many splices a hour to hit our bonus
gazza3166 2 years ago
What ever they pay you, it isn't enough! You are a WORK HORSE! Nice job!
VimisiDigitalMedia 2 years ago
I've met many riggers whom are far faster than me.
As my best time, I remember having a timed finish between 3 and 4 minutes (not videoed, alas)
One of fellows I work with currently can splice the same in half the time in this video -- 2 minutes.
As well, he makes it look like even less work.
And to think, the first shop I worked at our standard was 10 minutes an eye or faster was good for a rookie after two weeks.
chrstphrr 2 years ago
very impressive. you make it look easy. but for anybody who has not spliced wire, its not easy.
rfw700 2 years ago
I'm glad you have an appreciation for it -- it IS hard work to make it look easy.
Splicers end up with "popeye" forearms when working with wire rope, and a grip that you have to hold back on when shaking people's hands afterward.
A great trade if you want to fish barehanded, BTW. :)
chrstphrr 2 years ago
damn, look at him go!! I cant even roll a quick eye in one that fast.
dusky233fc 2 years ago
thats fucking quick. Wear eye protection man.
khawajaarslanahmed 3 years ago
Where di you learn handsplicing ?
im splicing wirerope but not like that.
Watch for the strands in the face.....
Nyklas 3 years ago
Were are your safety glasses?
tomytots 3 years ago
Was only wearing my normal eyeglasses at this time.
I haven't found a good pair of safety glasses that fit over them without making both fall off more easily when you're sweating in the summer. And I'm too nearsighted without glasses to wear just safety glasses alone. Tried it and got hit more that way.
chrstphrr 3 years ago
@chrstphrr yeah nice splice dude,but you in a shop with nice new rope.now do it in the mud with an abused logging rope that cracks up when tucking etc,not fun,oh and holding the eye between your legs.bet you still do a better job of it than me ha ha.
swn02 1 year ago
@swn02 Ugh... no, that's not fun AT ALL.
I've had to re-eye thimble eyes on used rope rarely. We'd never tag them, because, those were usually eyes on winchlines. With the lay of the rope all stretched out, it used to spring away from itself.
I know we had to splice some poorer quality rope into these same loading slings. Every strand on every lay would fan out when cut. So, I feel for you having had suffered splicing used rope.
chrstphrr 1 year ago
hi, may i ask what this splice is called?
i've just learned to do the Admirality and the Liverpool splices.not the same as this one tho.
EILAMAI 3 years ago
oh and were is the core? alradt been cut out? tut at you that is illegal in the UK
sc0use24 3 years ago
very true and thats a baby splice something bigger that fast lol and yes i splice wire its easy. and i use a locking tuck
sc0use24 3 years ago
You've done that before, haven't you!
88incher 3 years ago
where is the locking splice you fraud . never a sailor
grabber373 4 years ago
I live in Alberta. Get a map... where are the oceans that border Alberta?
These bear upwards of 60 000 lbs when in use by the bed truck operators in the oilfield. Not a one has complained the splice has come undone.
chrstphrr 4 years ago