Attacking base 3 (the base on the right) during the surprise attack is a waste. Fully repaired, the Odin can singlehandedly clear that base after the regular game starts, with very little micro (even on brutal). I can get far enough into base 1 to use the special attack to take out two of the starports, cutting the production of air units in half.
... If you take the left expansion right at the start of phase 2 while sending the Odin to the right, the Odin will prevent base 3 from ever attacking your base, and all the air attacks from base 1 will focus at your expansion.
To increase the damage done on the surprise attack, don't destroy the the structures all the way. All you have to do is get them burning and destroy all the scvs, then they'll blow up by themselves while you can use the extra time to do more damage elsewhere.
... This is especially true of missile turrets. They have 250 HP, the Odin does 200 damage. So you can actually oneshot the turrets and let them burn down themselves.
i Have been trying to pass this mission by myself but i surrender it is very dificult, if you dont do a very good atack at the beggining, i dont have the satellite on my base, but i will try again right now i am doing 45 minutes jajajaja but with ghost and nuclear bombs a lot of them
LOL. why is it that some moron always puts some kind of beat around the bush "you're not a ladies man are you geek" insult on some randomn youtube video host that is just helping out those that hit a wall in a good game? have ya nothing better in your life to do dukey boy? good video ainxty. gave me more ideas
when you play on hard you play either on fast or faster speed, so thats why this video is 14 minutes. try watching the clock ingame and your clock. youll see the difference.
I did it with just the Odin, 8 scvs (4 and replaced by 4). Took 19:33 min. Could take 17:00 min and only 4 scvs with this technique for players with good micro (note that my micro sucks).
@ecuguru Spectres come on the Tosh branch and Vikings come on the Ariel Hanson branch, so both those missions could be completed before Media blitz (which is the Matt Horner branch).
@ecuguru if you haven't figured it out yet, and are doing the missions on normal, then doing the archives on hard, you have to have completed the missions that grant you said unit before doing this mission. then, when you do this mission, you should have the banshee, ghost/spectre, vikings, ect. for this mission.
@KaHa6uC4o Apparently on Brutal you can just use nukes to keep the ravens from getting close enough to detect the ghost/spectre because the AI is "smart" and avoids nuke zones. Makes sense for normal melee games, but ridiculously stupid when the computer's objective is to prevent you from accessing the beacons. They should realize that sacrificing the Raven to kill the ghost is the better option.
don't forget to unlock the secret mission while doing this mission, it's in a civilian structure in the lower right side of the map under the base to the right.
I've tried this achievement like 100 times and it's just not possible. You supposed to have 5 minutes with the odin but it counts down in 3 minutes. I noticed that your Odin kills the vultures in one shot, not in my game. They take two shots each! So do the Helions. So my Odin dies before it even clears half of the second base. Then I start my base with 5 minutes already on the clock and no economy. xP
@VerumAdNauseam Wrong. You get whatever you had when you first played through the mission. Unlocked units and armory/research upgrades are not retroactive.
@VerumAdNauseam idk why but i just nuked his production buildings at the start, built 3 more thors and sent 4 SCV's with em...worked well lol did it in 18 minutes this way
Thanks for the vid. I just ended up not using Specters and using the Odin and 4 SCV's for everything (I got the whole second bases' production buildings down this way, because I didn't go for all of the turrets.) Also, I made 3 Thors to defend my base and 2 SCV's to repair them and just left it alone the whole game, everything was fine... I also sent those 3 Thors to destroy the building with the secret mission in it, right as the Odin started to attack the third base.
I basically did this achievement like you. I started clearing the middle base, then moved south. After the cutscene I put an SCV on Odin and immediately sent him out again to clear the rest of the map. Double Armory upgraded him over time. Then I built two Ghosts and got a few Vikings. Place the Ghosts on the circle and position the vikings so they can intercept the raven before he uncloaks the ghosts. Make sure you save before you trigger the event and reposition if necessary.
Thanks for the advice worked like a champ. Although I did micro and use 3 SCVs to repair odin using your base selection I was able to smash through it and clear it in 18:18 thanks a lot.
Thanks so much... Worked like a charm following your advice.
Your instructions were very clear and easy to follow. Best of all they worked. Had tried a bunch of strategies in my first 8 tries - and then watched your vid and got it done.
Your problem with the time is that you're playing faster than normal. Check the seconds countdown in the beginning of the mission, they run faster than real time seconds. The time is 20 min game time, no cinematics considered.
would just cloaking a spectre/ghost at the towers on hold fire work?
romas011 1 month ago
@romas011 no
Ravens come and u die
xDarthPig 2 weeks ago
...how can I get spectres in this mision? I don´t have any... =S
KikerSkat 2 months ago
@KikerSkat finish tosh's quest line before doing this
y2jeff2 1 month ago
This doesn't really work lol nothing this video says went really according to plan xD
whitemanwii 3 months ago
lol first thing: game time is faster than real time
second: why would tanks kill your scvs if you killed the top base
AlDumbrava 7 months ago
am i the only one that got 21 minutes doing this?
blackbull7995360 7 months ago
fu** I barely did it in 19:57 following this guide
lazomaniac 8 months ago
@lazomaniac l2p issue, achievments isnt supposed for n00bz
golumpygo 7 months ago
Is there anyway to check your in game time when playing these missions?
billnye69 8 months ago
@billnye69 there is an option to show the time above the minimap, it is somewhere in gameplay options I think
bozitojugg3rn4ut 8 months ago
@billnye69 yea, under options you can display a timer
BruncleSaurus 6 months ago
Attacking base 3 (the base on the right) during the surprise attack is a waste. Fully repaired, the Odin can singlehandedly clear that base after the regular game starts, with very little micro (even on brutal). I can get far enough into base 1 to use the special attack to take out two of the starports, cutting the production of air units in half.
chinareds54 9 months ago
... If you take the left expansion right at the start of phase 2 while sending the Odin to the right, the Odin will prevent base 3 from ever attacking your base, and all the air attacks from base 1 will focus at your expansion.
To increase the damage done on the surprise attack, don't destroy the the structures all the way. All you have to do is get them burning and destroy all the scvs, then they'll blow up by themselves while you can use the extra time to do more damage elsewhere.
chinareds54 9 months ago
... This is especially true of missile turrets. They have 250 HP, the Odin does 200 damage. So you can actually oneshot the turrets and let them burn down themselves.
chinareds54 9 months ago
of all vedio on YouTube, only your strategy works. Thank you!!!
fishleongfan 9 months ago
i Have been trying to pass this mission by myself but i surrender it is very dificult, if you dont do a very good atack at the beggining, i dont have the satellite on my base, but i will try again right now i am doing 45 minutes jajajaja but with ghost and nuclear bombs a lot of them
rlopezgalvez 9 months ago
im gonan use wraiths
ruumpleteaser 9 months ago
LOL. why is it that some moron always puts some kind of beat around the bush "you're not a ladies man are you geek" insult on some randomn youtube video host that is just helping out those that hit a wall in a good game? have ya nothing better in your life to do dukey boy? good video ainxty. gave me more ideas
chronofusion 10 months ago
would love to see this with medic/marine. You're the second person who says it can be done but never seen it.
joshwurzel 10 months ago
when you play on hard you play either on fast or faster speed, so thats why this video is 14 minutes. try watching the clock ingame and your clock. youll see the difference.
BehindYourBack 10 months ago
I did it with just the Odin, 8 scvs (4 and replaced by 4). Took 19:33 min. Could take 17:00 min and only 4 scvs with this technique for players with good micro (note that my micro sucks).
dgwclpjytg 10 months ago
lol i did this without CC reactor, without orbital without vikings and ghosts, just with 2 thors scvs and a marine medic ball
n1ckJ11 11 months ago
How are you able to access spectres and vikings? When I play the archive of that level, I have a limited tech tree (no vikings, etc)..
ecuguru 11 months ago
@ecuguru Same in my game
ChamberOfDeath89 11 months ago
@ecuguru Spectres come on the Tosh branch and Vikings come on the Ariel Hanson branch, so both those missions could be completed before Media blitz (which is the Matt Horner branch).
chinareds54 9 months ago
@ecuguru if you haven't figured it out yet, and are doing the missions on normal, then doing the archives on hard, you have to have completed the missions that grant you said unit before doing this mission. then, when you do this mission, you should have the banshee, ghost/spectre, vikings, ect. for this mission.
MrSimayi69 5 months ago
Your strategy does not work, they bring ravens at each tower.
KaHa6uC4o 11 months ago
@KaHa6uC4o Apparently on Brutal you can just use nukes to keep the ravens from getting close enough to detect the ghost/spectre because the AI is "smart" and avoids nuke zones. Makes sense for normal melee games, but ridiculously stupid when the computer's objective is to prevent you from accessing the beacons. They should realize that sacrificing the Raven to kill the ghost is the better option.
There's a 4 minute run on Youtube.
chinareds54 9 months ago
thx got it
dddoMi 1 year ago
very nerd thanks
maktub123 1 year ago
lol no dude, its because game time is faster, not because they count the cinematics.
Thanks for the tip :)
789123456789 1 year ago
Thanks dude =)
Menega007 1 year ago
don't forget to unlock the secret mission while doing this mission, it's in a civilian structure in the lower right side of the map under the base to the right.
mstura 1 year ago
I've tried this achievement like 100 times and it's just not possible. You supposed to have 5 minutes with the odin but it counts down in 3 minutes. I noticed that your Odin kills the vultures in one shot, not in my game. They take two shots each! So do the Helions. So my Odin dies before it even clears half of the second base. Then I start my base with 5 minutes already on the clock and no economy. xP
VerumAdNauseam 1 year ago
One more thing. When you load the mission from the achievement archives, you don't get the Orbital Command, so you can't use mules.
VerumAdNauseam 1 year ago
@VerumAdNauseam Wrong. You get whatever you had when you first played through the mission. Unlocked units and armory/research upgrades are not retroactive.
Frungi 1 year ago
@VerumAdNauseam yer i noticed the smae thing. like wtf
poisonglance 1 year ago
@VerumAdNauseam idk why but i just nuked his production buildings at the start, built 3 more thors and sent 4 SCV's with em...worked well lol did it in 18 minutes this way
LenardVP 11 months ago
You should stick to one strategy. You list at least 5 of them to get the achievement but you only do one of them.
curdle1 1 year ago
Thank you!!
Tiavioli 1 year ago
I think the reason why real time isn't equal to sc2 time, is simply because "faster" in starcraft is faster than real time..
Shormic 1 year ago
Bah... I cant use specters for my mission.
hochdaddy 1 year ago
damn.... I did all of the rebellion missions at the start doing the hard modes for the achievement so I don't have access to most units lol
Lightbane1 1 year ago
Specters didn't do it for me, the Dominion brought Ravens with them :(
buldren0101 1 year ago
good vid i concur on the high comment in the vid despcrition i tend ot ramble when i'm a lil high too
whitespot42 1 year ago
i completed this mission at 30 min before. so i now i got it in 19.30min
tfa032 1 year ago
your mineral count is always REALLY high. So you did this super hard.
ShaneGentryRobb 1 year ago
Thanks for the vid. I just ended up not using Specters and using the Odin and 4 SCV's for everything (I got the whole second bases' production buildings down this way, because I didn't go for all of the turrets.) Also, I made 3 Thors to defend my base and 2 SCV's to repair them and just left it alone the whole game, everything was fine... I also sent those 3 Thors to destroy the building with the secret mission in it, right as the Odin started to attack the third base.
masterchief77777 1 year ago
just did 17:28, thanks a lot, was only getting 21min before.
LeGourmand 1 year ago 10
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100% agree :)
TheKingMartin25 1 year ago
wow thanks so much for this vid. i tried it once by myself and failed. after watching this and following your tips, i completed it in 17:48. thanks!
GuiLingKwek 1 year ago
how many ladies do u think are actually watching this
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vihannes3 1 year ago
@ainxty
I basically did this achievement like you. I started clearing the middle base, then moved south. After the cutscene I put an SCV on Odin and immediately sent him out again to clear the rest of the map. Double Armory upgraded him over time. Then I built two Ghosts and got a few Vikings. Place the Ghosts on the circle and position the vikings so they can intercept the raven before he uncloaks the ghosts. Make sure you save before you trigger the event and reposition if necessary.
Tarchul 11 months ago
thanks for uploading
Blind777 1 year ago
Why not just spawn camp the raven, then put everything to emptying the north base.
PinchySkree 1 year ago
and ghosts specifically target your scv's
BLUEC0RE 1 year ago
Thanks for the advice worked like a champ. Although I did micro and use 3 SCVs to repair odin using your base selection I was able to smash through it and clear it in 18:18 thanks a lot.
14steph 1 year ago
Thanks so much... Worked like a charm following your advice.
Your instructions were very clear and easy to follow. Best of all they worked. Had tried a bunch of strategies in my first 8 tries - and then watched your vid and got it done.
Thanks!
steerboy 1 year ago
Your problem with the time is that you're playing faster than normal. Check the seconds countdown in the beginning of the mission, they run faster than real time seconds. The time is 20 min game time, no cinematics considered.
eduardopa 1 year ago
I appreciate you taking this time to make the video! Gonna go give it a try in a minute. the instructions are clear enough! Thanks again! :D
skriblez 1 year ago