I find a moderate religious views and moderate moral distinctions to be the actual enemy of modern consumer culture and post modern nihilism and fatalism
As a sincere searcher for truth and peace, you do great in letting others know what are the possible ways to relieve the world. Thanks for your honesty and practical demonstrations of compassion. Your soul is searching for Baha'u'llah. Investigate the principles of the Baha'i Faith through my playlists. You will not be deceived. You will love also the playlists on UFO (where one of your videos stands), and the MEDITATION one.
Religion and patriotism are the two most downright satanic forces to ever exist. I have seen and heard of many instances of religious and/or patriotic people, be them Americans or Chinese or Muslims, do and say things that would make a serial child killer cringe. The Islamic Empire that follows the same law and the U.S. government are the ultimate enemies of their own people and the world. Mohammed was a CONQUERER even my politically correct 90's history books admitted that.
Oh i like this. You sound like a closet anarchist and that makes me really happy. You're so right. Religion and patriotism are both social constructs designed to control people's thought and actions. Religion dictates what we should feel and believe to be correct on a moral and ethical level and patriotism tells us that we should love one set of people more than another based on humyn-made lines. You've got the right idea. Thanks for this vid.
I believe we, the patriotic, religious, and those who eschew those labels can all agree that things are not good; that things that are perpetrated under our labels are wrong. How then am I to re-label myself? Given any label, it will soon be usurped by the evil to label their own evil agenda. Greenpeace, anyone?
No labels, please. There is but one label that we can identify to be, without exception, wholly evil and destructive.
I feel like I am a patriot, but I am called unpatriotic because I oppose the poilcies and acts of my country's government.
My religion does not "dictate" to me what to believe, if to "dictate" means to force someone to think a certain way. It simply offers a truth which I may accept or not.
The labels by which we indentify and define people are dangerous because they assume a blanket personality and ideology that is applied to all, when this in reality is not the case.
Ive been engaging in this struggle as well and your videos are usefull in that respect. I believe in God i believe in a creator but i believe that the creator created us to be thinking individuals not meant to mirror one another. That faith makes me fear religion which says trust the guru,pastor,priest, holy man because he knows and you do not. I just hope people make a distinction between faith and religion or you risk isolating your allies.
Don't your coins all say, "In God We Trust"? That would be the Christian God, not Zeus or Odin. You seem to know only the Christian Religion. Not all religions are the same, what would be the point if they were?
One of the lies of the Cold War was that Democracy and Capitalism were two sides of the same coin. Oh really? Then how come China is now a Capitalist Dictatorship governed by the Communist Party? Russia may become a one-party state again.
I think you are being too harsh on your own country. I am from India and living in the US for last couple of years. I agree to your points mostly - political leaders manipulate the public opintions for their (i.e. their corporate bosses) ends is agreed but still I dont think democracy is a joke. Its not the ultimate system but better than most.
I read his point a little differently - that in fact we do not have the idealized Democracy that we envision our system as. It's not democracy, on paper, that he was commenting on. It is the deformed facsimile thereof, that he indicts - the one we presently live under. Emphasis on under. His comment about "Democracy is a religious belief *at the moment*" is key.
So if I believe that Killing someone is ok- then nobody should lay down rules and consequences to say that this is unacceptable because it endangers the freedoms of others?
From the time we are born, you are going to have people dictating stuff to you whetheryou like it or not. First with parents, then with driving (because there are laws) with drinking then at work.
I cant believe the people that respond to this video saying its brilliant and great.
The world is twisted. Sorry to say.. Rules exist for the good of mankind. To set principles and guidelines to live by. These rules are created by man for man in order to have a boundary between good and evil. What is wrong with the world today is people are taking away moral values & principles which have been put here to keep us from destroying ourselves. I think humanity is near its extinction.
I think to reply to what's been said. Wrayer said "Well what I believe should not be dictaded, by anybody else ... I sure as hell shouldn't be taking there word that i should e living my life a certain way"
There needs to be a balance between laws and anarchy/civil rights. I certainly wish Anarchy would work, but I just know that someone is going to go overboard and cause mayhem ruining it for everyone. America needs to be put on an equal level with the rest of the world, and the government with it's people.
That Video is Brilliant. I've wanted to make a video like this but Ever time I try to put up a Video They Get Deleted. You're Brilliant at Speches. 5 Stars!
wow i really liked this video. i thought it spoke alot of truth, and i'm glad you haven't outward stated your opinions as fact at any point, or have gotten rude/offensive in any way. i'd recommend this video to anyone.
Patriotism is a love for ones country, it is not discriminatory. Nationalism is, nationalism believes one's country is superior. The US government have propagandised and confused the terms but they are different. I am patriotic but not nationalistic (I am from UK)
true they are different things , but patriotism can also stimulate naturalism, patriotism by definition love for one's country, but also a demand of devotion to it. what reson does one have to love a particular country?
I have seen videos somewhere that made a very interesting assertion concerning president Bush. Ultimately, what they said is that the President's image as a "God fearing individual" will garner support for those other people who consider themselves to also be "God fearing folks". They are more likely to give their undying support because they think, "he's just like us.. good old, God fearing American". Makes some sense. Take from that what you will.
I really hope you repond to this comment. I would love to get into a respectable, civilized debate about this. Go ahead on call me out on any of the points I have made. I am quite sure I will back them all up. But you probably won't respond because you know that I'm correct in all of my assumptions thus far.
I've seen some videos on youtube where you can easily link religion and patriotism. Just search for the documentary Jesus Camp, or for people like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.
"He who joyfully marches to the music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." Albert Einstein
well i think you are a little too obsessed with not wanting to be manipulated, but most of what you say is true. you should move to europe though. there you can disagree with the government without being called a terrorist.
You need to read some nietzsche - you'd get a big kick out of his attitude about patriotism, religion etc. He has the same basic stance as you now have.
Religious bodies are by nature organizationally and ritually tied. Faith and community breathes through it when we are not apathetic or withdraw when manipulators get control. Walking away when there is something about the ritual form you don't like is the worst form of apathy and robs the people left behind of your change-agent drive. Walking away from those who need you is a cruel sort of hate.
I understand, but there's also the co-dependency issue. If you have a situation that's hurting you, you can't keep it up just because other people like it and like you being there. There's a time to be supportive and a time to take care of one's self.
Co-dependency occurs when one opts not to be a change-agent. Religion and faith community are two different things. You sound like the 1960s "opiate of the people" which started the communist repression of faith communities in Russia.
Hey, I'm not against, I'm just for opting out. The principal of Religion is that everybody should beleive in one thing. That very principal is inherently issue-filled and descriminates against "change-agents" as you put it.
But forget being anti-anything. I'm not about the elimination of Religion AT ALL, just for a general understanding beyond current mainstream thought ... its rigidity precludes free will.
RE: Communism - I barely know anything about it and can't comment, sorry.
Excellent! In 5 minutes, you said what I've believed for 3 decades (more intensely for the past 5 yrs). Thank you for this posting. I hope that you will join us on Progressive Earth.
Unfortunately, this topic is beyond most people's intelligence due to the brainwashing which has occurred for thousands of years of human history. Thanks for approaching the subject however. There are actually philosophers alive and willing to take a stand.
Hey Wrayer! You took the words right out of my mouth with this one. For a long time I've thought that nationalism was the new religion for the "rational" age.
I've been meaning to check out your work seeing as though you took the time to check out mine. Sorry, it's taken me this long.
I agree about religion. I feel it's a cancer on society. Even though it has helped many people, it still responsible for many deaths through the course of history. My opinion may be harsh but that's how I feel about the subject.
great stuff man. like beliving solidly in the current system is a religios view, yet we who oppose it are guilty of the same thing, as we feel we "know" what is really going on.
I find a moderate religious views and moderate moral distinctions to be the actual enemy of modern consumer culture and post modern nihilism and fatalism
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As a sincere searcher for truth and peace, you do great in letting others know what are the possible ways to relieve the world. Thanks for your honesty and practical demonstrations of compassion. Your soul is searching for Baha'u'llah. Investigate the principles of the Baha'i Faith through my playlists. You will not be deceived. You will love also the playlists on UFO (where one of your videos stands), and the MEDITATION one.
Love&Light !
CandlesOfUnity 1 year ago
Religion and patriotism are the two most downright satanic forces to ever exist. I have seen and heard of many instances of religious and/or patriotic people, be them Americans or Chinese or Muslims, do and say things that would make a serial child killer cringe. The Islamic Empire that follows the same law and the U.S. government are the ultimate enemies of their own people and the world. Mohammed was a CONQUERER even my politically correct 90's history books admitted that.
KingRadbadical1988 1 year ago
Oh i like this. You sound like a closet anarchist and that makes me really happy. You're so right. Religion and patriotism are both social constructs designed to control people's thought and actions. Religion dictates what we should feel and believe to be correct on a moral and ethical level and patriotism tells us that we should love one set of people more than another based on humyn-made lines. You've got the right idea. Thanks for this vid.
schwul13 1 year ago
I believe we, the patriotic, religious, and those who eschew those labels can all agree that things are not good; that things that are perpetrated under our labels are wrong. How then am I to re-label myself? Given any label, it will soon be usurped by the evil to label their own evil agenda. Greenpeace, anyone?
No labels, please. There is but one label that we can identify to be, without exception, wholly evil and destructive.
Anything that ends with Inc.
cleareyedcleanheart 2 years ago
I feel like I am a patriot, but I am called unpatriotic because I oppose the poilcies and acts of my country's government.
My religion does not "dictate" to me what to believe, if to "dictate" means to force someone to think a certain way. It simply offers a truth which I may accept or not.
The labels by which we indentify and define people are dangerous because they assume a blanket personality and ideology that is applied to all, when this in reality is not the case.
cleareyedcleanheart 2 years ago
Ive been engaging in this struggle as well and your videos are usefull in that respect. I believe in God i believe in a creator but i believe that the creator created us to be thinking individuals not meant to mirror one another. That faith makes me fear religion which says trust the guru,pastor,priest, holy man because he knows and you do not. I just hope people make a distinction between faith and religion or you risk isolating your allies.
krissy4nik 3 years ago
Don't your coins all say, "In God We Trust"? That would be the Christian God, not Zeus or Odin. You seem to know only the Christian Religion. Not all religions are the same, what would be the point if they were?
One of the lies of the Cold War was that Democracy and Capitalism were two sides of the same coin. Oh really? Then how come China is now a Capitalist Dictatorship governed by the Communist Party? Russia may become a one-party state again.
I recommend The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Kline.
geezzerboy 3 years ago
I think you are being too harsh on your own country. I am from India and living in the US for last couple of years. I agree to your points mostly - political leaders manipulate the public opintions for their (i.e. their corporate bosses) ends is agreed but still I dont think democracy is a joke. Its not the ultimate system but better than most.
sumanbasu 4 years ago
I read his point a little differently - that in fact we do not have the idealized Democracy that we envision our system as. It's not democracy, on paper, that he was commenting on. It is the deformed facsimile thereof, that he indicts - the one we presently live under. Emphasis on under. His comment about "Democracy is a religious belief *at the moment*" is key.
Quag7 3 years ago
thinking is overrated, watch the tv to tell you what to think, what to be afraid of, and what to buy
alanaldasucks 4 years ago
So if I believe that Killing someone is ok- then nobody should lay down rules and consequences to say that this is unacceptable because it endangers the freedoms of others?
From the time we are born, you are going to have people dictating stuff to you whetheryou like it or not. First with parents, then with driving (because there are laws) with drinking then at work.
metalflesh666 4 years ago
I cant believe the people that respond to this video saying its brilliant and great.
The world is twisted. Sorry to say.. Rules exist for the good of mankind. To set principles and guidelines to live by. These rules are created by man for man in order to have a boundary between good and evil. What is wrong with the world today is people are taking away moral values & principles which have been put here to keep us from destroying ourselves. I think humanity is near its extinction.
metalflesh666 4 years ago
I think to reply to what's been said. Wrayer said "Well what I believe should not be dictaded, by anybody else ... I sure as hell shouldn't be taking there word that i should e living my life a certain way"
DKDarrenKelly 4 years ago
There needs to be a balance between laws and anarchy/civil rights. I certainly wish Anarchy would work, but I just know that someone is going to go overboard and cause mayhem ruining it for everyone. America needs to be put on an equal level with the rest of the world, and the government with it's people.
AN3REC710N 2 years ago
That Video is Brilliant. I've wanted to make a video like this but Ever time I try to put up a Video They Get Deleted. You're Brilliant at Speches. 5 Stars!
DKDarrenKelly 4 years ago
wow i really liked this video. i thought it spoke alot of truth, and i'm glad you haven't outward stated your opinions as fact at any point, or have gotten rude/offensive in any way. i'd recommend this video to anyone.
xCha0s 4 years ago
welcome to reality! nice to have you. It is fantastic to hear you speak truth to power.
TheBigHo111 4 years ago
Patriotism is a love for ones country, it is not discriminatory. Nationalism is, nationalism believes one's country is superior. The US government have propagandised and confused the terms but they are different. I am patriotic but not nationalistic (I am from UK)
lozzic 4 years ago
true they are different things , but patriotism can also stimulate naturalism, patriotism by definition love for one's country, but also a demand of devotion to it. what reson does one have to love a particular country?
19ca87iv 4 years ago
one mistake with my reply, nationalism, not naturalism. i completely apologize
19ca87iv 4 years ago
lol the spelling there brings rather grotesque images to mind haha
lozzic 4 years ago
I think you are confusing patriotism and nationalism, they are too very different things and what you define as patriotism is actually nationalism.
lozzic 4 years ago
Well put dude!
RunzWithScissorz 5 years ago
Now this interesting. I finally found somebody who is able to tell, why my nick is "IdiotTv".
IdiotTv 5 years ago
I have seen videos somewhere that made a very interesting assertion concerning president Bush. Ultimately, what they said is that the President's image as a "God fearing individual" will garner support for those other people who consider themselves to also be "God fearing folks". They are more likely to give their undying support because they think, "he's just like us.. good old, God fearing American". Makes some sense. Take from that what you will.
withafierceness 5 years ago
I really hope you repond to this comment. I would love to get into a respectable, civilized debate about this. Go ahead on call me out on any of the points I have made. I am quite sure I will back them all up. But you probably won't respond because you know that I'm correct in all of my assumptions thus far.
syvenski 5 years ago
I've seen some videos on youtube where you can easily link religion and patriotism. Just search for the documentary Jesus Camp, or for people like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.
BTW, thanks for posting such great videos.
jenclaire23 5 years ago
"He who joyfully marches to the music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." Albert Einstein
Kiskadog 5 years ago
well i think you are a little too obsessed with not wanting to be manipulated, but most of what you say is true. you should move to europe though. there you can disagree with the government without being called a terrorist.
iammme 5 years ago
You need to read some nietzsche - you'd get a big kick out of his attitude about patriotism, religion etc. He has the same basic stance as you now have.
peterhk69 5 years ago
Religious bodies are by nature organizationally and ritually tied. Faith and community breathes through it when we are not apathetic or withdraw when manipulators get control. Walking away when there is something about the ritual form you don't like is the worst form of apathy and robs the people left behind of your change-agent drive. Walking away from those who need you is a cruel sort of hate.
rohese 5 years ago
I understand, but there's also the co-dependency issue. If you have a situation that's hurting you, you can't keep it up just because other people like it and like you being there. There's a time to be supportive and a time to take care of one's self.
Wrayer 5 years ago
Co-dependency occurs when one opts not to be a change-agent. Religion and faith community are two different things. You sound like the 1960s "opiate of the people" which started the communist repression of faith communities in Russia.
rohese 5 years ago
Hey, I'm not against, I'm just for opting out. The principal of Religion is that everybody should beleive in one thing. That very principal is inherently issue-filled and descriminates against "change-agents" as you put it.
But forget being anti-anything. I'm not about the elimination of Religion AT ALL, just for a general understanding beyond current mainstream thought ... its rigidity precludes free will.
RE: Communism - I barely know anything about it and can't comment, sorry.
Wrayer 5 years ago
Excellent! In 5 minutes, you said what I've believed for 3 decades (more intensely for the past 5 yrs). Thank you for this posting. I hope that you will join us on Progressive Earth.
timetripping 5 years ago
Unfortunately, this topic is beyond most people's intelligence due to the brainwashing which has occurred for thousands of years of human history. Thanks for approaching the subject however. There are actually philosophers alive and willing to take a stand.
eligarf 5 years ago
Hey Wrayer! You took the words right out of my mouth with this one. For a long time I've thought that nationalism was the new religion for the "rational" age.
frostynorth 5 years ago
I've been meaning to check out your work seeing as though you took the time to check out mine. Sorry, it's taken me this long.
I agree about religion. I feel it's a cancer on society. Even though it has helped many people, it still responsible for many deaths through the course of history. My opinion may be harsh but that's how I feel about the subject.
take care,
-joe
joe6panther6 5 years ago
great stuff man. like beliving solidly in the current system is a religios view, yet we who oppose it are guilty of the same thing, as we feel we "know" what is really going on.
cheeryvibez 5 years ago
Actually my insistence is that we CAN NOT know. But hey... I'll leave that for a day when I figure out what Agnosticism means...
Wrayer 5 years ago
i was gonna post the wiki definition, but lol felt that would be a wanker thing to do.. =)
cheeryvibez 5 years ago