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  • Yes, cveitch is a wanker Yes, but forget him and BE THE CHANGE and promote a happy future if the people just get educated they can take over their future. It doesn't have to be this way if we all wake up

  • No, Love police wants to make YOU loving, subservient and not dangerous to the powers to be. It is not a joke on police, it's a joke on YOU.

  • wtf is that subliminal illuminati pyramid graphics shit there?

  • I find shills all the time.. AJ, Tarpley, wearechange. You know what I do with those people?? the same as with mainstream media. take everything they say with a grain of salt and pay attention to what they are inconsistent on.. while never forgetting this is just ONE bad event the FED has been a bad event since 1913. STFU Charlie Veitch, Charlie Veitch supporters, Charlie Veitch haters... END the FED!

  • Charlie Veitch = Internet version of Casey Anthony (wtf people have you forgotten about Ron Paul, Timing is everything) END THE FED!!!!

  • i didnt forget you POS, Im back and im gonna get ur ass

  • A BBC Whore !!!!!

  • GET WELL SOON, CHARLIE!...enjoy your all expenses paid trip and "Documentary"...you disgusting SELL-OUT!! ....Backstabbing TRAITOR!!!

  • you all are treating these people (icke, veitch, jones) like idols, like masters of the truth movement, you've created a hierarchy. these people are PEOPLE no better, no worse. human, and allowed to change their opinions at any time, because that is what we do. we grow and learn, we change. this doesnt make the man the freaking devil.

  • @xxpoisenandkissesxx so true

    fear is so strong an emotion that people will kill under it's influence

    if people obeyed GOD the world would change for the better but most would rather listen to others rhetoric than attempt to put thier lives in line with what GOD requires

  • Who cares if he had u-turned and started sucking satans dick, he will never be trusted again outside the BBC. I wish him luck in his career.

  • lol all you pricks are shills 

  • @MRGORT2012 and you're an asshole.

  • @ed11561 maybe but you're still a lying shillhead

  • Charlie Veitch is a fraud.

  • 4th July 2011. Charlie Veitch sells out truthists and denies the 9/11 theories after whoring himself to the BBC before travelling to the U.S to make a documentary called 9/11 Roadtrip. I am extremely concerned that leading lights in the truth movement have remained silent on this shill's conduct. Not one single comment from Alex Jones, David Icke or Paul Watson. Anyone care to comment or explain this lengthy and extraordinary silence?

  • @PiknSave

    This is the comment I post everywhere:

    Why is it that none of the prominent "truthers" commented on CVs u-turn up to now?

    Glad to see I am not alone with my question.

    And honestly - I guess they are all on the same payroll.

  • @PiknSave Hi mate, actually The Icke has just responded today. See his headlines page.

    Haven't checked the lastest Alex Jones though. Also, check out Danny Shines response. I think what he says is right.

  • @PiknSave Actually Icke has responded today. See his website headlines page. Also Danny Shine has responded in a very Danny Shine kinda way on his YouTube channel.

    Alex Jones, dunno yet? But should anyone really bother? YOU KNOW THE TRUTH and that's all that matters!

  • @PiknSave The reason why Alex jones, David Icke and Paul Watson are alledgely silent on Veitch is because the former 3 people are also shills.

    Alex Jones is a shill because he NEVER talks about zionists and the fact that they start wars and did 9/11 Icke is a shill because he support pure nonsense theories.

    Julian Assange from WIkileaks is also a shill which is why the mainstream media promotes him.

    The non-shills are unpromoted. Shills mix truth with poison so that you swallow the lattter.

  • @Invesigator You are spot.

  • The outrage against Charlie Veitch will be part of a BBC documentary.

    Mark my words.

  • Charlie is a sell out. Fuck him. WEARECHANGE has the responsibility to question him on his flipflops, and exposing him.

  • so now we know that when you say ''everything is ok'' you really did mean it, go back to sleep with the rest again now charlie.

  • Shut yer mouth SHILL...I was WAITING for U to show your colours...NOW every single one of your bullshit speeches shall be torn from your tavistock-cock-swallowing mouth and dissected...

    YOU will become a HATED example of what IS a slimy, narcissistic "agent provocateur"...a "shill"...a trained, mercenary, professional BULLSHITTER.

    NOW, you WILL be "useful to us"..

    PS Charlie Felch...how-dya like your new name?

  • Dip your bread Charlie

  • This guy is a sell out and a NEW WORLD ORDER SHILL !!!! Wake up sheeple, he is of low vibration and consciousness

  • VEITCH is a fucking fake.DONT TRUST HIM

  • Why is he wearing a costume?

  • Charlie Veitch sold out to the CIA and now says 911 was not inside job. Philly just shut its doors on the Philly Love Police you BBC Sellout!

  • support we are change because all the change goes directly into Luke's private checking account. Yes I am cointelpro, yes I am an infiltrator. X D

  • Are the corporations going to turn the sky into private property ?

  • WATCH THE ARRIVALS!!!

  • @pinball281 YES ! THANKS !

  • Why has Charlie brought a megaphone into a TV studio? Does he not understand how television works? This reminds me of those hilarious local news programs you used to watch as a kid, where some bloke had done something like catch a giant fish, so they'd make him dress in his smelly fishing waders for the interview (and bring his fishing rod) and then make the poor bastard stand there looking stupid so the "thick" viewers got it...how does it feel to be a 70's TV clown, Charlie?

  • You really are a pompous little boy. You are more like Citizen Smith than a real revolutionist.

    Who supports you? Capitalist mummy and daddy perchance?

    In 10yrs time, this will all just be a little hobby you had to help you rise to fame- which is clearly your motivation, not the 'starving children'. It's like listening to why somebody wants to be Miss World!

    English cops do not 'protect and serve'. This is because they are not public servants. Research much?

  • (at least) 8 brainwashed people on you tube....

    

  • What's wrong with the audio?

  • Luke, no offense but that hairstyle needs a major change.

  • lol Charlie, trading a banana for a dead racoon is not "Capitalism" - its a economic system built in a strategic way to exploit many, profit for the few.theres no "fair" trading involved at all.

  • I support the cause.. but this is just childish. Can't you see that nothing will change if you make up rhymes and throw "witty comments" at members of the public and the government.

  • Trading is not capitalism.

  • Free Markets are wonderful, so they are, watch idly by as millions suffer, you fools. Wake up.

  • @nansir We don't have free markets, we have corporatism. I wish people wouldn't get these 2 mixed up. Free markets is very much in line with anarchism and what Charlie Veitch is advocating.

  • luke are charlie are both a couple of hypocrites

  • @suchafool990 why?

  • "Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."

    Benito Mussolini.

  • Goo Charlie....My man.....=D

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  • Join the Zeitgeist Movement and spend as little as possible. All Public Sector workers should withdraw from their pension schemes, most won't live to see a pension anyway. Withdraw.

  • @nansir zeitgeist is a communist driven nwo tool for world government. we are not bees you twats and free markets are wonderful.

  • @sh4p3shifter No it isn't, do so more research.

  • @nansir and you should join toilet shit revolution and flush yourself down the toilet

  • How can I take part in future activity, (In England)?? This guy's sentiments echo my own.

  • You can´t grow a backbone if you are afraid of bracking it

  • I cringed so hard at this I think I broke my neck. I agree with the sentiments but the delivery of all points made here is dreadful. Sorry to be negative but this just gives ammunition to the detractors, seriously, I have heard more eloquence and passion from a 10 year old. And what's with the fashionista image Charlie? Oh yeah I forgot, it's all about you isn't it, we must all look at you and think that you are really cool. Style over substance and you know it. Just a leaf in the wind, man.

  • I never knew how well . WELL KNOWN Charlie Is man !

    hes a great scottish truther . Scottish truthers unite

  • WE DONT NEED REVOLUTION. WE NEED EVOLUTION!

  • Danny has taught him well......

  • If any1 here hasn't already read it i recommend the book "Synagogue of Satan" by Andrew Hitchcock

  • I think there should be a protest for the police, to remind them they are divine creatures of love and to wake up because once that is solved the wars over.

  • great work guys.

  • The Brits always do it best! I am sorry, but Charlie is so much more natural than his US counterparts.

  • @ellenwispa I don't think a comment like that has got any usefulness. Divide and conquer?

  • @ellenwispa

    They fcuked up lots of places around the world better than most too. :-)

  • good sign!

  • so you dont want to talk about erroneous health information !

    come on i promise to be gentle !

  • i'm sorry OneMillionKids, who are you referring to?

  • What is this in reference to ?

  • without doubt the best medicine in a sick sad world. thank you.

  • But I love him! He says a lot of beautiful things :)

  • Charlie's background is irrelevant and he made it explicitly clear that he held a position in a high-ranking financial institution during his interview on "The Edge". What's important is the message, not the person delivering it, much like how people live loving and moral lives because they feel it's right, not because they have a religious belief. I'm capable of critical thinking, and the convergence of the trio was coincidental, not machinated for an ulterior intent. Absorb all and filter.

  • Middle class ex-banker asking other people to work and fund his holidays and drugs and clothes so he doesn't have to - walking the streets repeating the same - sarcastically delivered - message again and again, calling people around him ignorant 'sheeple' or 'drones' (the 'truth movement's 'nigger') - whilst preaching erroneous societal health information on subjects he knows nothing about.

    Still, it's fun to watch Charlie challenge the increasingly authoritarian policing of public space.

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  • 'otinane89'

    Yes, mine is hostile, agreed, is that wrong ?

  • @OneMillionKids No, i just said i believe you will get over it... It usually goes like this anyway!

  • Well I hope my hostility toward things I am hostile towards does not diminish in any way.

  • He doesn't have the world's best memory, but he quotes Mussolini like its nobody's business...

  • Charlie used to work for a bank. He says so in his videos. Is everything OK?

  • RAWWRR!

    I do not know, but I feel... that Charlie, like Alex Jones, is a sellout~

  • @TheLittleBlackBear

    I don't know, but I feel, that TheFreeAdviceMan is trolling with mulitiple accounts. If this is you Fenyo, fuck off you insane attention seeking maniac. Seriously

  • @cveitch " fuck off you insane attention seeking maniac. Seriously".... Thats fucking rich coming from YOU Charles!

  • @cveitch who's the insane attention seeking maniac now? SHILL

  • @cveitch keep doing what you're doing Charlie, we love you.

  • @cveitch why have you disabled ALL comments on ALL your vids?? pretty weak. why dont you erase your whole account?? :)

  • Can someone enlighten me as to why at 2:44 in the video, the picture in the banner that appears with your name/URL is the All-Seeing Eye/Illuminati symbol? I'm familiar with Semiotics on a layman's level, so I'm adept at noticing these things, but was this an error on your part, an intention or was it pertinent to the agenda of the channel you were featuring on? I understand the message is great and worth illustrating to those with lower awareness, but I'm intrigued by the odd placement of it.

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  • **I understand the message is great and worth illustrating to those with lower awareness**

    The sheer arrogance of you people never fails to amaze me, 'sheeple' - 'those with lower awareness' - 'the unenlightened' - like I have said before this 'movement' has managed to find it's 'nigger' or 'infidel' much faster than any religion or ideology.

  • I'm far from elitist :| I said 'Lower Awareness' simply to refer to people who live their lives in autopilot without questioning the environment they've been raised within. Race, Class and Intellect don't cross my mind when I think of volunteers illustrating to members of the public don't have to feel so alone. I think it's a great idea, but I wouldn't call it a movement because if it was executed on a larger scale, it'd lose its potency.

  • Also it would be nice to let some of his acolytes speak - he might travel to Newcastle or stand on the steps of St Paul's with a small crowd, but all they do is stand or follow him around silently, would be nice to hear more input from a variety of people, it would be healthy for the overall debate rather than the endless repetition of one man's opinion

    I know 'Olly the Octopus' was attacked for not towing the party line recently - but I think Charlie might warm to differing opinion eventually.

  • @OneMillionKids

    everyone in E.OK knows that charlie is a mere sock puppet and front man in the pyramidial hierarchial organisation controlled by olly the octopus and the dark ju ju forces of the ugabooga monster.

    acolyte speak for " give me a fucking break "

    i now return to coventry, to continue my punishment of enforced silence as given to me for unauthorised communication

    unless you want to talk about erroneous health information, if you have the balls.

    is that enough variety for you.

  • **is that enough variety for you.**

    Well, I was hoping for something a little better, but it will have to do.

    : P

  • I have got bananas, Giev raccoon mr Vietch!

  • Excellant :)

  • **This order is sustained by the Lord Jesus Christ.**

    He's doing a bit of shit job.

  • thanks kankaroo, i'm sorry I've never hear of Fred Phelps, and what is the WBC if i might ask?

  • Charlie, YOu are the fucking man!

  • we need a reformation,a relationship with God allowing Him to transform us into His image.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't care about this, but Jesus is returning and He does love us , please be ready.

  • You are right, the good pastor - Fred Phelps at the WBC has shown the way!

  • **please be ready**

    I've got my fucking pitch fork ready for the bastard.

  • what about the energy crisis and sustainability? 11 billion people in 50 years, we live in a finite planet, infinite growth is not sustainable, the earth's resources are dwindling, forests are disappearing, animals/sea life are going extinct.

  • these problems were created by the corporations. Thus, dealing with corporations will in and of itself resolve all of these issues instantly. Much of the "green revolution" is a product of corporate interests as an attempt to co-opt the peoples' growing intuition/awareness of a man-nature imbalance. It is a surrogate movement. Dealing with a problem at its source is usually the more effective way to produce results.

  • Capitalism has given you all the little luxuries you take for granted folks. Capitalism is freedom. It is property rights and the freedom to trade. The problem is fraud and crony capitalism.

    Get your terminology right.

    It's easy to say that capitalism is the root of all evil and we should turn to free love and communism but how has that turned out throughout history? Communism is anti-freedom. True capitalism is freedom.

  • Presidente, this is why I use the term Corporatism to describe what we are going through right now. I don't think it's capitalism in it's pure form. Also, I do not agree with much of corporate law. It gives them, along with banks, huge advantages.

  • On that we can agree. You could also call it Monopolism where private companies collude with government to use government force to gain a monopoly and destroy competition.

    The latest push by big corporations is to force internet users into a licensing scheme so that they can control content and maintain their monopolies over the media. John D Rockefeller said: "Competition is sin". He is the epitomy of the anti-free-market-capitalist.

  • Oh, Monopolism - that's a good one, too.

    These guys use the law to protect themselves from capitalists. To the benefit of only themselves. They are criminals that do not follow natural law. Corporate law is not natural law.

  • @gypster2004 what to you is natural law?

  • So..be VERY careful when you use the word "capitalism".

  • Really? because most people use it in the place of corporatism. I think they should be careful.

  • Property definition =

    1. Do you own something that is intended for active personal use? (e.g. a bed, a house, toothbrush, garden, etc).

    2. Do you own something that is simply designed to accumulate profits for you? e.g. an investor who owns 900 homes but never bought them for any personal use or contributed to their creation.

    Hint: Number 2 is exploitative property and is part of the capitalist framework.

  • Really? Because in #2 the investor will offer up that property most likely to be sold to others or to rent to others. If they don't sell that property, they will rent it out and take care of the grounds and maintenance of the property. Oh wait, this is exploiting people because of that whole wage-slavery thing. Sorry! You're right about everything! How could I have missed it! Oh that's right, because I'm not whining about doing what it takes to rise above a "wage for someone else".

  • "Voluntary choice" is NOT enough in itself. People need to think about the coercive contexts of choices.

    Just because something is voluntary - it doesn't mean that the choice is indicative of freedom. You can have voluntary choices within a very coercive context; such as "work for these authoritarian bosses or starve". You need to think about the concept of exploitative property, rents, investments, usury, etc.

  • WHAT? You have a serious cramp in your thinking. So what's the antithesis to voluntary action? Oh, that's right it's COMPULSORY, decreed by LAW. Free will = freedom. If you want freedom AND security (either economic or personal) you will get neither. The governance over such things always gets corrupt.

  • Whatever part of the political spectrum you are from - the onus on you is to minimize human suffering, exploitation and coercion. It is also important that authority and power should have to continuously justify itself in order for it to exist in any system. The aim should be to minimize hierarchy and power whilst ensuring maximum opportunity for all. "Voluntary choice" is NOT enough in itself. People need to think about the coercive contexts of choices.

  • "People need to think about the coercive contexts of choices. "

    Average person: Oh nooo, someone might be dishonest because I'm a gullible buffoon! So there should be LAWS to protect people! Never mind that the cheats may win a few times but never sustain that without any government intervention forcing monopolies! You say you were in the business world, so you should know this simple thing that corporations have fixed the rules in their favor and NOT ours.

  • yo i'am sorry but dude take off that scarf , yea and thats a bullhorn, not an M16

  • There MAY be a role for government, there MAY be a role for money, there MAY be a role for markets, there MAY be a role for property. HOWEVER, its absolutely vital that people are able to define all of these roles and aspects before they even mention any "ism". People need to define the consequences of their definitions of property, power, money and social organisation. People need to realise that others will differ in their interpretations of these roles.

  • Any "ism" ends up causing big problems because much of the language is so ideologically disfigured because of years of varying usage and obfuscation. Its hard to even talk anymore, and again - it comes back to information warfare, ideological hegemony and the alienation of people from each other.

  • -ism etymologically speaking can be seen as a doctrine or "teaching, body of teachings, learning" as well, dude! Words aren't the problem it's the collectivist education systems.

  • Whatever part of the political spectrum you are from - the onus on you is to minimize human suffering, exploitation and coercion. It is also important that authority and power should have to continuously justify itself in order for it to exist in any system. The aim should be to minimize hierarchy and power whilst ensuring maximum liberty for all.

  • And that's what that entire site (that you probably didn't look at) was all about :P

    vforvoluntary . com

  • vforvoluntary[dot]com for what capitalism should be!!!

  • @gypster2004

    We need to do away with all conventional "isms" because they promote an ideologically disfigured discourse.

  • No dude, we need to just clear the air about things. Capital = wealth

    Humanity generates wealth via labor

    No one should EVER be able to take that away by force.

    We are in agreement, yet you thumb me down, what's that say about solidarity?

  • That's barter, not capitalism.

    Fuck capitalism, communism and all the rest of their systems.

  • so what if the name for executing capitalism? isn't bartering the execution of capitalism?

  • If you own capital (i.e. property) then it means you also make people victims of non-negotiable contracts and wage-slavery. You own property that you don't intend for active personal use and parasitically profit off it. The biggest problem in a lot of our economic organisations is that of institutional hierarchy at every level and parasitical profit-making (e.g. rents, usury, investments).

  • What? "If you own capital (i.e. property) then it means you also make people victims of non-negotiable contracts and wage-slavery."

    LOL, so my car and house have contributed to wage slavery. And I guess I'm a wage slave too.

    Are you a part of the Zeitgeist movement? If so, you do know they are communists (Marxists), right?

    How about this ideology for a change: DEBT-SLAVERY via multinational banks.

  • Are you talking to me?

  • No, I am addressing Persian's statement above mine.

  • Give this a watch: -

    watch?v=6ArkJmUOIqM

  • You need to be careful about examples.

    I never talked about your house or car; I'm talking about the productive lives of most people. How much employment experienced do you have? Have you been in the business world? I have. Its an authoritarian and parasitical landscape that is riddled with institutional hierarchy and exploitative property and wage-slavery.

  • LOL! I own my own business! And all the people that work for me on a voluntary basis are WAGE SLAVES!! hahaha

    Thumbs down this one, since you don't like anything I have to say... maybe that's because your hatred for "class war" is blinding you to simple truth, and that is you really don't want to make anything out of your own life, you'd rather steal from others because you can't actually do something creative and positive with your life.

  • No, bartering was the method used long long before they constructed the dialectic of capitalism/communism.

    The name for executing capitalism is the most ruthless rise to the top and the majority of working class ppl suffer.

  • We haven't seen actually capitalism in centuries, dude!

  • Is that why the majority of the biggest economies are now capitalist corporations rather than countries?

  • I'll reiterate...We have not seen capitalism in centuries.

    You can't use capitalism and corporation in the same sentence, as corporations are not living, breathing individuals with RIGHTS. Capitalism functions on private ownership, and to be an owner of something you have to 1) produce it from raw materials yourself with your own labor or 2) engaged in some sort of exchange of something for something else with the item you just produced with your labor. And barter is a form of capitalism.

  • Last time there was Natural Capitalism on this continent, was when Native Americans were trading with WAMPUM or similar things. But that's a very primitive form since there was low production in the Native American societies. You have to go WAY far back in Europe for something similar.

  • Look. You have no clue about the definition of capitalism.

    Barter does NOT equal capitalism. Capitalism is about the definition of property and wage-labour. End of story.

  • End of story because Persian paladin has spoken! So it is! LOL

  • Corporations: their main goal is to generate CAPITAL.

    Capitalism: it's main goal is to generate CAPITAL.

    In this case capital happens to be paper money, with little to no intrinsic value whatsoever.

    Barter is not a form of capitalism, or any other 'ism'.

    Trade is not capitalism either, capitalism started with the industrial revolution, if not the first weighing of precious metals.

    Capitalism is a psycopathic system where the sharks with the least empathy are the most successful.

  • LOL wow dude, when you clock into your job, are you walking into a dictatorship?

  • Yes, of course i am, and am speaking more than figuratively.

    Like all systems, capitalism and communism have both proved to be psycopathic systems in their own right.

    If you fail to see through the illusion of man-made systems, will you ever be a sentient, sovereign man born free on earth who isn't out to profit at everybody else's expence?

  • OK now that we've established that I guess I'm done here. You're right! I'm a compete idiot because I own my own business and I take advantage of my poor, poor employees and customers on a daily basis. Boo Hoo. How do I live with myself? I must go rethink my life now, thank you so much for your insight!

  • When in doubt, cop out.

  • Really? I'd just rather not waste my time since we will never agree. Ever.

  • O.K., cop out then.

  • Oh gosh, what will I do in the face of such stunning intellect? Are you always right? Nah. What part of "we'll never agree" don't you understand? If that's the case, why even argue since you're not being creative enough to do anything to change your life situation because you think the whole world's against you. instead you'd rather go on and on about such things as class war and scream that life is unfair. It's unfair for EVERYONE. Do something about it. That's where we disagree.

  • the first shot will be heard around the world

  • Luke got a new big ass bullhorn

  • Oi Oi it's Charlie Veitch, keep up the good work guys!

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