History of the Middle East conflict

[steute2011]

@dingdongdannny The claim that the West Bank is "disputed" is completely false. It is only disputed by Israel, as the international court of justice has determined it to be in fact occupied. Territory by war is inadmissible, therefore the West Bank having been acquired by war is occupied and not "disputed". Jordan was not recognized as the legal sovereign in the West Bank, but rather the occupier. Jordan ceded it's claim to the PLO in 1988.

[steute2011]

@dingdongdannny Menachem Begin, not yet prime minister but a member of the Israeli cabinet, allowed that: "The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him."

Sources:

Le Monde, February 29, 1968, p. 4.

Le Monde, June 3, 1972, p. 4.

"Excerpts from Begin Speech at National Defense College," The New York Times, August 11, 1982, p. A6.

[steute2011]

@dingdongdannny General Mattityahu Peled, a member of Israel's general staff in 1967, opined that "the thesis according to which the danger of genocide weighed on us in June 1967, and that Israel struggled for its physical existence is only a bluff born and developed after the war."

[steute2011]

@dingdongdannny A number of senior Israeli military and political figures have subsequently admitted that Israel was not faced with a genuine threat of attack, and instead, deliberately chose war. Yitzhak Rabin, the Israeli army chief of staff during the war, later stated: "I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent into Sinai on May 14 would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it."

[steute2011]

@dingdongdannny I will start with the clever way in which he implies that Israel was "forced to defend itself" in 1967, but does not mention that Israel launched a surprise attack on Egypt in what they called a preemptive attack. This kind of action is in fact illegal, unless authorized by the UNSC (see chapter 7 of UN Charter).

[carmenph]

Thanks for this summary, TheConceptWizard. This will help my further study about this conflict that started in biblical times. The recent fall of the regimes in some of these ME countries connect in some way with how they are in conflict with Israel. It seems ironic that America became a hegemon because of how it has stood by Israel and might also see its downfall because of how it has secretly supported the regimes in the said Arab nations.

[jamie1234591]

I'm not an expert on this subject at all, but it seems that the facts outlined here, although they maybe true have been cherrypicked to give a definate pro-Israel bias. Also I would like to say that the current behaviour of Israel with regard to the people in the occupied terrortories is disgraceful. You might want to look at this. Search 'occupation 101' for a very good clip on this issue.

[theroadupward]

Wow-extremely biased-pro-Israel-this is heavy propaganda. Need something closer to the truth.

[FREEMAN8522]

Isreal doing Worse then Hitler .And Amirca is sharing this crim with isreal.

[mrspalestine]

DOES ANYONE STILL BELIEVE YR LIES??? ISRAELI THIEVES.

[sutter1001]

@mrspalestine since you have obvi0usly never been to Israel, let me enlighten you. The last time I visited, the MAYOR of ACCO, a major city was an arab!. AND over 60% of the pop of that city were arabs..All Israeli's. With the opportunity to vote, hold office, etc. The arab Israeli's are free, with no one forcing them to stay or go. IF as you say, their land was all taken from them, WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY STAY? Where in the rest of the middle east do Jews have those same rights?

[mrspalestine]

@sutter1001 NOT ONLY R U THEIVES BUT LIARS AS WELL. I AM A PALESTINIAN CHRISTIAN & YES OUR LAND WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM US. I WILL NOT STOOP TO ANSWER YR LIES. U WILL NEVER HV PEACE UNTIL WE RETURN TO OUR LANDS & GENEROUSLY COMPENSATED 4 YR CRIMES.

ISRAELI THIEF, ENJOY YR HONEYMOON...IT WILL NOT LAST.

[baruchlanda]

@mrspalestine Under INTERNATIONAL LAW, the land you are referring to was governed and owned by Israel AFTER your Arab armies attacked Israel. Even before the attack, it was a DISPUTED territory (see this video for REAL history and international law: watch?v=XGYxLWUKwWo), NOT "occupied". Let's make one thing clear: the Arab countries wanted war, not Israel. So they lost and now you complain that you want "your" land back? How does that make sense?

[mrspalestine]

@baruchlanda Look, I really feel sorry 4 u. There is no way Israel can get away with its crimes (& please do not talk about international law nor recommend any video to teach me about the history of Palestine - I can recommend several books). And now with the Arab spring u r clueless of the amount of hate that is awaiting u,,& not because we r the bad guys but because of what u hv done to the Palestinians. NOTHING IS FREE. Yr only hope to survive is to have a JUST peace with the Palestinians.

[mrspalestine]

@baruchlanda Look, I really feel sorry 4 u. There is no way Israel can get away with its crimes (& please do not talk about international law nor recommend any video to teach me about the history of Palestine - I can recommend several books). And now with the Arab spring u r clueless of the amount of hate that is awaiting u,,& not because we r the bad guys but because of what u hv done to the Palestinians. NOTHING IS FREE. Yr only hope to survive is to have a JUST peace with the Palestinians.

[bluelondon]

lol what a load of bullshit this video is. I was looking for a un-biased and honest account of the history of what happened in the middle east between the Palos and the Jews and instead I got Israeli propaganda 101. From what I have learned so far, there were Jews in the area before 1947, sure, but they comprised only 6% of the local population, and hardly any existed in the west bank before then. Most of the Jews migrated in to Israel after 1947 occupation began. Big thumbs down dude.

[ZyonFyre]

Being an American and watching my own Nation continually attack other Nations who have not attacked us, and using open lies to justify the violence. I cannot imagine how my Country continually asks Israel to make peace with enemies who send thousands of Kasaam rockets(verified by UN) into their city streets, Schools, and Hospitals. I mean in America we litterally took our Nation from the Native peoples who lived here and put them inside reservations with borders we chose. How hypocritical!

[sutter1001]

@ZyonFyre wah wah wah

You could do us all a big favor, and find somewhere else to live. Liberals! sheesh

[ZyonFyre]

@sutter1001 Liberal? That just goes to show your level of amazing ignorance. Standing for the Constitution and for Israel are Conservative values you unbelievable toothless, cousin marrying, twin brother attached to your your shoulder idiot.

[Deathandbones]

Those countries who actually had true goverments and leaders still thought their goverment leaders were still puppets of western mordenism. I love the west but i really think we should look back at the forgotten era off WWI

[Deathandbones]

Later after they so called gave their freedom back , set up with each country their own"government " . This couldnt have been farther from the truth. Most of these goverments were ruled by local leaders but were nevertheless puppets of the west.

[sutter1001]

@Deathandbones

Wow, "nevertheless" If you are not too busy, be precise and name these Puppet leaders.

These "leaders" have pillaged everything for themselves. Not for the west or anyone else. CORRUPTION is the POLITICS of the arab ME. Stop blaming the Israelis, and the West for the dysfunction of the Arabs. The only hope for all of us is helping you to unlearn the BS you've been force-fed to distract u from the truth U R ur own worst enemies.

[Deathandbones]

Even worse was that after the palestinains received word of the double cross, the brits sent in a deplomat saying their promise was going to be given to them and not the jews , but they did that any way. The UN had practically owned the Middle East and had acted as monarches . d realize we have done as many evils as they have done to us.

[Deathandbones]

dude for the record the palestinians had a right or atleast a reason to be pissed at the jews. For one , the jews' population was 3,000 while palestine was 300,000 and two that the british in the UN had originally promised the palestinians that same land.

[cerealify]

wow. this was extremely biased. if you are looking to simply get the facts, you have to wade through the poster's opinion to reach it. history should be presented with an attempt to avoid bias. while i appreciate the effort, this video is too one sided to provide real insight.

[sutter1001]

@cerealify

So enlighten us with some facts. ANYTHING will do for starters

[mfdoom3787]

this video lies about what the british mandate is, and the palestinian refugee problem..why would the palestinians listen to arab leaders if what you say is true, it doesnt serve the aims of the arab leaders or the palestinian people

it then portrays arabs as constant aggressors and that was a dove of peace..how did israel expel the palestinian people..by handing out cookies and flowers, what about israel's terrorist scare tactics which brought about the likes of deir yassin massacre and saf saf

[sutter1001]

@mfdoom3787

Oh for G-d sake man! Israel NEVER expelled any arabs. Those who CHOSE to stay are called Arab Israelis.

How do you explain them? They have full citizenship, hold office in the Knesset, etc. The PLO came into existence 2 years BEFORE 67 war! So who were they wanting liberation from genius? OTHER Arabs. Do SOME reading, real factual history, might not be what you want to hear, but facts are available IF you want them.

[mfdoom3787]

@sutter1001

and i suppose the hundreds of thousands of other refugees landed from mars, hahaha facts ya

arab israelis were granted citizenship because they voluntarily gave up their land to israel. of course i can refer you to human rights reports that show how they are discriminated against, especially by the Jewish national fund which own 90 % of the land of so called israel, what about the "demographic threat" you.

Real factual history is not based on zionist fairytale propaganda

[sutter1001]

@mfdoom3787

ONE of us has been to Israel, and seen first hand of what he speaks. And it isn't you. If there ever is peace and you are able, go there for yourself. In the meantime, grow up. Research is available to the open mind. WHF are you talking about Jewish fund owns 90% ? where do u hear such drivel?

[sutter1001]

@mfdoom3787

hey, this is too f'g easy. And I'm not here to teach u history or current events.Re: the refugees... WHY is this the ONLY refugee situation not resolved? On the entire planet! Too deep 4 u.

[mfdoom3787]

@sutter1001

hahahaha most of what you say doesnt make sense....you cant even refute what i say.

dumb- ass

[mfdoom3787]

@sutter1001

why in the hell do the PLO want to fight other arabs if they have the same goals, PLO wanted to liberate all of palestine not the west bank you dim wit, frankly they had good support among arab nations and were launching attacks against israel from jordan, lebanon and syria..until black september occurred that changed everything.

The PLO came into existence to provide an official palestinian resistance movement, if it were fighting arabs it may as well be allies with israel

haha 

[sutter1001]

@mfdoom3787

fact remains, PLO existed before Israel was in charge of the WB and GAZA. WB was under Jordanian control, GAZA under Egyptian control. No different from today, you still cause each other more grief than anyone else could. If Israel was gone tomorrow, the Palestinians would still be nowhere, Lebanon still a wreck,etc

[sutter1001]

@mfdoom3787

Forget to add, your stupid is showing.

[boazsenator]

facts, no lies. simple as that.. and arabs should care avbout their dictators, their mass, and why do they escape from their countries to Europe.

[beardedgecko987]

I find this video very difficult to understand, i still liked though

[killerramon]

never except this to be taken seriously when it clearly shows biased towards the jews. it's really an insult to those wanting to learn

[TheConceptwizard]

@killerramon

The facts are accurate, consulat your history books!!

[killerramon]

@TheConceptwizard accurate yes, but they are selective. Your not showing the whole picture, only what you want people to see. no better than a dictator :{

[ZyonFyre]

@killerramon All teaching of history contains bias, thats why we can over look the bias and review the facts. If these facts are true it can help shape our understanding which is never without bias. Only the arrogant believe that.

[sutter1001]

@killerramon WHY dont any of you provide information. Only opinions. Specifically WHAT do you find in error. Be specific and ready to document.

[sutter1001]

@killerramon

Really want to learn?

Alan Dershowitz has written a book called The Case for Israel. Heavily documented. The Brits kept astonishingly detailed records. Dershowitz provides footnotes for the reader to use to verify what he says. It is not a novel, and is daunting, like an encyclopedia. BUT ALL OF THE FACTS ARE THERE, AND DOCUMENTED. Read it if you REALLY "want to learn"

[SymphoDeProggy]

sure it doesn't look very objective, but it is factually accurate, and that's really all you can ask for.

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btw loved the Heroes music XD

[kirk93pne]

The War is about who is who's holy land and every religion says its theirs and the war has been going on for 100's of years. and it looks like it will never end!

[TheConceptwizard]

Yes, a Jew posetd this video SO.........

[americangirldollrox1]

@TheConceptwizard  this is wrong

[americangirldollrox1]

seriously you want us to believe that thats totally wrong i'm with Palestine 

[dregueral5]

A Jew posted this video, guaranteed. Too biased to be used to learn people, NEXT...

[sutter1001]

@dregueral5

So how come YOU didnt enlighten us with the truth? Oh yeah, no knowledge or facts, just YOUR BIASED OPINIONS!

[MrMrRiip]

this is all wrong. PArtioning a state is when you have one group people on one side ans other group of people on the other side. For example Paksitan and India. What european/american did was destroy peoples life, remove them from theri own homes and in some cases destroyed the villages and bruned it to the ground.

[893160007]

biased

[sutter1001]

@893160007

WOW, how enlightening! Too busy to add something factual. Not enough room for you. ?

[sanchopanza123]

this is obviusly a biased presentation. I dont care about both sides but the language used is defiantely neutral in nature.

[NightShadeAEB]

@kreplach3 Doesn't matter. It's built on stolen territory and is armed with freaking nukes.

[sutter1001]

@NightShadeAEB

Got any proof that its stolen territory. Or just parroting BS you heard t your dinner table? Impossible to discuss anything with a blank mind.

[donnaholic1987]

F*** ISRAEL!!! PALESTINE YOU GOT A MEXICAN ON YOUR SIDE.

[jafrene1]

i bet a zionist made this dumb video

[yakov321]

@jafrene1 - Actually, all of the facts are correct. All of the documents were signed, and ratified by the UN. In history, it is not merely a matter of opinion. You either signed the documents, or you didn't. Israel did give back Sianai -and the West Bank has always been under Jordan control. and Arafat did Attack Jordan. and even today, Palestinians are not allowed citizenship in Jordan - look up Black September - Muslims Murdering Palstinians. Israel is not the enemy. everyone Signed.

[phonejokes]

in the last time I checked,

9,640,011 km^2 is bigger than 9,629,091 km^2

but hey, I'm only a Jew,

by your friends I'm probably a mouse.

[NightShadeAEB]

@kreplach3 No, not capische. Area does not signal strength of a military and economy you genius.

[NightShadeAEB]

@kreplach3 Omfg so now military power is equivalent to how geographically big a country is? By that logic Russia is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more powerful than the United States, next comes Canada, then America, then China, then Brazil, then India, and so on etc etc etc. Israel is one of the weakest powers of the world, ain't it?

[phonejokes]

@NightShadeAEB

learn your facts, before you talk,

china is bigger from the USA due Tibet occupation.

what your media says, doesn't have to be the truth.

[NightShadeAEB]

@phonejokes Oh I'm sorry, I made mistake.

So my media told me that America is bigger than China, you claim? You made me laugh dude.

Stop being stupid before you talk.

[NightShadeAEB]

@kreplach3 Yeah but as soon as Obama's time is up a neocon might get elected again.

[ronjgoldman]

The greatest threat to world peace is israel and their crazy determination to force the US into attacking Iran

[yakov321]

@ronjgoldman - not really. Islam has continually dedicated itself to committing genocide against the Jewish people. Israel, like any other country has a right to defend herself. I think we should make a "Reality TV show" called, "When Islam Attacks" -! or.....? "When Arab Leaders Rob arabs" -what do you think? Palestine is Jordan. the state doesn't exist because of leaders like Arafat - scumbags who blame Jews for no statehood. all lies by Islam.

[ronjgoldman]

@yakov321

Yes, really.

Israel only needs to "defend" herself because she is a brutal occupier of land she stole from the inhabitants.

Israel is a terrorist regime and is far more dangerous to the world's peace than Korea or Iran.

[arseneltic]

@ronjgoldman Yeah really well there is no palestine only fakestine.

Israel is a becon of hope to the world surrounded by all those backward babaric islamic shit hole countries that surround Her. The bigest danger to world peace is islam,the evil cult of death founded by the vile looter,enslaver,rapist,mass-mu­rderer and paedophile muhammad (pig shit be upon him)

[sutter1001]

@ronjgoldman WHAAAAAT?

enough weed for you, my man. Time to pluck head out of ass, use aired out remnant of brain to actually read some documented history. Not that hard, just do it! You'll sound a little smarter, I promise. What you just posted should embarrass you. Since you KNOW nothing, you have posted your bigoted ignorance for us all to see. As such , YOU have just been added to those who threaten the world's peace. For shame.

[jaelkay]

@sutter1001

You're bent. You obviouly only read Jew history, aka lies.

[jackelliston]

Any history of the Middle East Conflict which can be placed in a nutshell belongs there.

[sutter1001]

@jackelliston NOT so!..just look at all the uninformed nut posting here

[NightShadeAEB]

You skipped the fact that in 1947 there were 650,000 Jews west of Jordan and 1.35 million Arabs. And yet Jews got 55% of the land. Why? Who the fuck would accept? Balfour's Declaration was based on the Sykes-Picot partitioning of Arab territory. Arab territory was supposed to be given the Sharif Hussein of Mecca who lead he Arab Revolt against the Ottoman Empire in WWI. He played a key role in aiding the British conquest of the Ottomans. How did the Europeans award him?

[NightShadeAEB]

By dividing the Levant and Mesopotamia, of course! In the end he was confined to a small state which was later overrun by the House of Saud and the pro-American Saudi Arabia was established.

Agreeably the governments of the Arab world were quite corrupt, but I cannot disagree with Jamal Abdel Nassir. Imagine if Israel was established in Kazakhstan. Or better yet, imagine if a small Muslim state was established in Kazakhstan. How would the Soviets react lol?

[NightShadeAEB]

How did America act when the South decided to cede from it? How did Mexico act when Texas decided to cede? The Mexicans, like the Arabs, were overwhelmed and had to give up on their land. However the difference is that the Arab conflict is more recent and on going.

It doesn't matter how much land in question; no people in history would ever give up on their lands if taken by force without a fight. Ever. Who gave the UN the right to partition the land? Who gave the British the right to Balfour?

[NightShadeAEB]

If you believe that the governments of America and Europe created Israel because they cared about Jews then you must be extremely naive. Governments don't care about people. They simply wanted a place to dump Jews in so that they would be able to use the Jews to serve their interests, put bluntly. Do you honestly believe Israel could defeat five Arab states on their own? Europeans made sure to give Israel what it needs to survive; it was far too useful for them.

[NightShadeAEB]

Europeans realized that they cannot control the Middle East forever, which made Israel all the most valuable. What makes Israel so special? Why are they allowed to have nuclear weapons and the latest technology? Why didn't Europeans establish a natural home for the Kurds? Or the Tuaregs? Why do they only care about Jews? Let's face it, it's not about the Jews or the Biblical claim. That's just the way their idea gained popularity, but it was nothing but ultimately a propaganda tool.

[NightShadeAEB]

In the end, Europe and America now have their greatest ally in the Middle East - Israel - in terms of military and economic power, minus the oil in Saudi Arabia. At any rate, the can use Israel to weaken any opponents of America. No one in the Middle East can try anything funny with a power like Israel around. If full scale war erupted and America needed back up, who could it count on? Israel, of course. Israel's also keeping China and Russia's Mid East interests in check. It's really simple.

[yakov321]

@NightShadeAEB - the have Nuclear weapons, because every Arab State has declared "Genocide" against Jewish people. What don't you understand about that? If Israel were to disarm, they would be Slaughtered! and you say Technological Advances, and why..? because Jews are smart - Muslims, on the other hand, waste their "Indoctrination" (void of education), on teaching propoganda to their people to "MURDER AND KILL JEWS" - that's about it. Stop playing the Victim. BE A FUCKING MAN.

[sutter1001]

@yakov321

you sir are spot on! could not have said it better!

BTW our european friends are going to pay a steep price for their behaviour. Muslims will eventually outnumber them and their once great cities will deteriorate and collapse. GLAD I SAW LONDANISTAN BEFORE IT IS GONE! The French will be next.

[yakov321]

@NightShadeAEB - British people, and others in Europe, buy into all the Arab Muslim lies.... what are you talking about?? Europeans hate Israel and Jews more than Muslims !!!!!!! - Israel won all those wars, based on their intelligence as a people vs., stupid fucking Arabs - true? or, another theory...... the God of Abraham is on the side of His Chosen people, VS. Satan, the God of Muslims - no matter what you believe, Israel is here to stay.

[yakov321]

@NightShadeAEB - Mexican people, do not run into bars yelling..."I love you Mary" and blow innocent people to hell. Mexico is a Democracy. The Mexican people are GREAT AMERICANS. Muslims, on the other hand, do not believe in Freedom. Every state is a fucking "Theocracy" ran by Sharia Law, and their Fucked up Satanic God, Allah -do not ever equate the Great Mexican people with fucking Arab Muslims. - they are a far better culture and people.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!

[yakov321]

@NightShadeAEB - Muslim states are established and Islam is forced on it's people. ever heard of Lebanon......???? Chechnyia?? what the fuck are you talking about..??? Islam is only here to Dominate. Not to co-exist with others. Grow up.

Islam has declared WAR on Israel, US, Great Britian, France, etc etc etc etc.. you guys are not victims. You attack everyone - and as soon as you run out of oil..? back to the stoneage you go! Islam is finished.

[NightShadeAEB]

@yakov321 Lebanon was peaceful till the PLO marched in.

Chechnya was invaded by the Tsarist Russians.

Who the fuck is "Islam"? There is no such a sentient being called "Islam" - every Muslim is different, GET OVER IT.

Furthermore, how do you know that every Muslim country is a theocracy? Where I'm from, Algeria, our government is secular an socialist. Learn your facts, retard.

Yes, Mexicans are great people but Americans stole 55% of their land. QQ

You're too bigoted to understand.

[mes200]

hahaha, Israel still seeks peace. u made me laugh

[yakov321]

@mes200 - you shouldn't laugh. The Oslo agreements were signed, and the Arabs broke every provision in that agreement - why? because in Islam, you are only allowed 10 year peace agreement to give you "time" to re-group, to destroy your enemy - trust me buddy, we all know about Islam, and the conquests for Allah - we're going to shut your shit down....... LONG LIVE ISRAEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sutter1001]

@mes200

idjit!

[FlaviaR]

So simple, even children can understand it (Can we dumb it down further for terrorists & their supporters...?).

[europeanba]

Viva Palestina

[yakov321]

@europeanba - i agree ! Long Live Palestine - JORDAN !!!!!!!! GIVE BACK PALESTINAIN LAND THAT YOU STOLE !!!!!!!! STOP STEALING FROM YOUR OWN PEOPLE !! NO MORE BLACK SEPTEMBER ! NO MORE MUSLIMS LYING AND MURDERING OTHER MUSLIMS AND BLAMING IT ON THE JEWS ! I agree with you!

[leirrondo]

Existe una versión en español de esta presentación. Sería de agradecer que también la incluyesen en YouTube para una mayor difusión.

Saludos.

[yakov321]

@leirrondo -Aquí en Estados Unidos, nosotros tenemos a muchos representantes hispanos en nuestro gobierno. Adoramos las personas mexicanas y a las personas hispanas en nuestro país. Es mi esperanza que usted no creerá las mentiras musulmanas, y apoyará la matanza de Personas judías. Israel es la Tierra de los judíos. Saludos para San Diego !

[donnaholic1987]

@yakov321 not always true. Here in the United States Mexicans are looked down upon in many places. Mexicans have had to struggle very hard for what they have today. Don't get me wrong there are many stupid and retarded Mexicans I will admit but to say that they are loved hear in the United States my friend you are either blind or naive.

[europeanba]

Lies as always from zionist

[7norton]

@europeanba ....the truth hurts...does it not?

[yakov321]

@europeanba - actually, if you read your History books, and if you look at all of the documents signed and ratified by the UN, you will see that everything in the video is absolutely 100% correct. But, I do understand, that as a Muslim, or as a "leftist" it is easier to Hate jews, than to read a book and do research. either way, good luck with the Hate..! ISRAEL IS HERE TO STAY.

[sutter1001]

@yakov321

AMEN

[israelmaven1]

very nice, short and to the point.