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  • LOL @ Logic can only take you so far!

  • w w w . halos . com Proof for Design Brian's Scared To Debate Me

  • wow firefly makes Christians look bad

  • Wow you really hit the jackpot with this interview.

  • We use faith daily. When you get in your car and believe that it will get you where you are going safely. What about believing that you will wake up tomorrow or that you won't get killed when you walk outside.  What worked today is no evidence that it will work tomorrow...

  • where is this Firefly515??

  • They don't believe in a "god" and yet they have set all this stuff up in disproving that "god" does not exist. Your time and effort could very well be spent on something else that is way more important than just not "believing" in a "god."

  • Or a lack thereof.

  • That is quite the double negative "disproving that "god" does not exist."

  • You know I always though BS was an acronym for bullshit. However, then I heard Brian Sapient speak. I guess in the end it doesn't really matter because both amount to crap!

  • Hey Brain Sapient.... If you want someone to debate about god here i am debate me i am a Christian... and I will debate you.......

  • lol, good one. Your "God" is false.

  • You capitalized His holy name, therefore you just contradicted what you just said? My God is real, our God is real.

  • Because I use Grammar, I contradicted myself? You're an idiot. I mean, your comment says it all.

  • why couldn't the earth have been created by the flying spaghetti monster or any other fantasy figur?

    well, for starters, no ancient writings which 2 billion people holds as valid states that he is.

  • So, you are jewish, muslim, or christian? Either way, you follow ancient writings, which are obviously false, and are reassured because a lot of other people believe it also. Do whatever helps you get through the day, but don't try to pass off these total fallacies as true.

  • This guy is a total idiot. He sounds like a inbred redneck lol.

  • Firefly sounds like a mindless drone. Brian simply brought him on because it's obvious that Firefly is an idiot.

  • Indeed. Sapient exchanges dialogue with only very weak opponents, both theist and atheist alike. He gets shredded otherwise, even by tards like Laura Ingraham. He was called out to debate 'theism is a mind disorder' on neutral web sites by other atheists and dodged it. Of course he likely considered their dissenting opinion as trollish or Xtians in disguise-nice easy cop out. He also needs to brush up on the difference between an ad hom vs insult, and criticism vs straw man.

  • I'd say he's a really nice guy and intelligent, but just not as verbally inclined as Sapient.

  • Wait, why even bring guys on this program? He clearly doesn't know what the FUCK his talking about, and is just making bowl shit. WOW. Macro, Micro???? haha it's like calling every step a macro step, and walking a mile Micro Walking. hahaha

  • Firefly515 is a sheep. Hopelessly stupid.

  • I dont know a single Christian who views the interviewed person as one of them. He is the furthest left, least Christ-following person who CLAIMS to be a Christian on youtube. You may as well have interviewed an atheist for this. :o\

  • the firefly guy seems like a really nice dude. but I'm not sure he thinks a whole lot about things. Honestly.... these were standard atheist questions and he'd never heard them LOL.! One sided debate. And yes... by definition it was a debate.

  • this wasnt a debate, firefly didnt know what he walked into.....i kinda felt sorry for him.

  • what the hell are you talking about?

    he knew who he was going to be talking to. he knew the questions were going to about his belief system.

    he knew that he was going to have a debate with an athiest...how did he not know what he was walking into?

  • this was a very well done debate/conversation. I was very happy to see a christian/atheist talk about this topic and not get out of hand. Very well done guys. Glad to see a rational and friendly conversation.

  • I couldn't agree more, this is an actual good talk

    Ihate this constant bickering and insulting beliefs crossing the line elsewhere

    ya know what I mean

  • "when your supposed jesus said "it is finished"that meant his life on earth"

    Here goes the so called rationality again.

    What Jesus meant was his trials were completed as predicted by previous prophecies.

    He returned from the Dead, Remember?

  • Evolution is real. Babies grow into adults. we see that. I have yet to see a bird give birth to a snake. I have not seen any transitional forms.

    Genesis states.,."it is finished" meaning "it" (creation), was finished, nothing more to be done. No Evolution. The Bible was written over 1600 years, by more than 40 authors, on 3 different continents in 3 different languages. these authors spoke on hundreds of controversial subjects and penned their words with agreement and harmony.

    AMAZING

  • Again this proved absolutely nothing,when your supposed jesus said "it is finished"that meant his life on earth was finished.This never pertained to evolution.Again you ridiculous creationsits and christians just make it up as you go along.

  • KillerOfTheSun: how did you believe animals, plants, humans, etc got here?

  • Wel according to you it was thru magic,but iof you actually cared to do any research you would know how they got here.But you are lazy and dont want to hear th cold hard facts.

  • I should have known you were the kind of person who does no research and only likes to fight with people. God Bless brother.

  • Well isnt that what you do.You are either too stupid to learn or you refuse to do any research about how the universe or its planets ever came about.

  • What are the chances of it happening by accident?

  • Both science and math has proven Evolution impossible, and if you disagree, then post the Math equation for probability here?

    Science proves it wrong by experimentation.

    Never once have scientist been able to replicate one living molecule which would contain information for survival and regeneration, the way it was suggested, using the said chemicals that would have been present over 60 years with the worlds leading scientists using replication labs.

  • Rational Squad?????????

    To be rational, is to have sufficient evidence in order to deny a Creator.

    Which the so called squad do not have.

    In fact they act totally irrational in responding to challenges, such as Prove your Biological Origin, or The consciousness is non materialistic, As is Gravity but it exists so how could a materialistic universe produce such intelligence of the non material?

    Lets see if we can have a rational response.

  • hey Brian, I believe you're wrong about the term "facts" in Science. The terminology of science for words like "theory" and "fact" are actually different from everyday language. It's actually quite confusing, even for atheists like me who believe in Science and not religion.

    watch?v=g7Ctl9nzEqs

    watch?v=85diEXbJBIk

  • Technically there's no such thing as micro-evolution or macro-evolution. It's all evolution. It's just about different time scales.

  • good slaughter...

  • Firefly is pwned on every question.

  • You cannot say that God is perceived as the same as man, because as stated in the Bible, a day to man can be more than a thousand years to God

    everything as we know it has a beginning and an end, but Humans can only think so far, and God existed forever and we cannot comprehend such ideas because we know everything has a beginning and end

  • If everything has a beginning and an end, when did god begin and when will he end?

  • eveything man percieves has a beggining and end so its hard to understand that God has none

  • It's hard to believe god has more than a couple hundred years left in the human conciousness.

  • sure it's hard, because you don't believe in God

    thx for the obvious

  • I'm talking practically. I believe the organized worship of a supernatural being will become extinct in the next couple hundred years. Logic, reason and the global community are hard things to resist for very long.

  • How do you know that god exsisted forever.You actually dont know that for a fact.

  • because the bible states that God has lived forever

    you cannot prove that he didn't

    and i cannot prove u that he did, but.......

    by faith, which Christianity and another religions are based on, we choose to believe it

  • Dr.Suess speaks of the who's who live in whoville.Who is to say they dont exisst at said place?The bible also says many things that right now are being discredited as false.You believe it because you are a follower of fantasy.

  • yeha, sure I am....

    what is fantasy but the things not ever seen before? you need faith to worship

    so if u don't, then just deal with it,. it isn't your problem

    ad what kind of things exactly are being "discredited", the things that non-Christians take literally?

  • Burning bushes,talking donkeys,virgin births,talking snakes.Just to name a few.And you believe in fantasy because you are not satisfied with reality.

  • fish turning to humans, oozey creatures being formed over millions of years, something coming from nothing.

    and you believe in fantasy because you are not satisfied with reality.

  • what is false? I've found that most of the time its not that the Bible is wrong, its an unbelievers misunderstanding. The Bible, in it authentic form, is Gods perfect word. Christians are no better than anyone, some are far worse than unbelievers. Trusting God does not make anyone better than anyone else, it saves your soul. DNA is information. Information can only come from Intelligence. A code is useless without knowledge and intelligence. One love brother

  • exactly

  • Okay you said absolutely nothing when it comes to proving those claims.DNA is not evdidence for god and you havent even come close to making your fantasy world a reality.

  • Whats being discredited in the Bible?

  • I'll never understand how theists can use these weak arguments and not see the obvious flaws in them.

  • Great points Ryan...you OWNED this guy!

  • Evolution has been "proven" Why is it not a LAW (instead of a theory?)

  • Look up "Laws of Science" in Wikipedia.

    We have Newton's Law of Motion (3 of them), but the Theory of Gravity is very different today than when Newton came up with it. Even today, we are doing experiments to support Einsteinian Gravity.

    If you have questions re science, the answers are easy to find.

  • love this video

  • Do you have Firefly515's IQ test results? Just curious. ;)

  • Your an idiot, what do you mean theres no debate? Organized religion is pure evil, and your a pure retard.

  • And can't even spell "atheist".

  • It just proves how ignorant these people are.

  • Ignorant? Is that the new sugar-coated word for "fucking retarded"?

  • @REENOU812 Yes you're right. Organized religion is bad and I hate it. But you can't deny that individual people who are spiritual have done a lot of good;

    Martin Luther, Gandhi and Mother Teressa to name a few.

    I think organized religions are evil they manipulate the masses.

    But at the same time that does not change the fact that there is a God and that some people saw past the B.S. of the religions and served Him for the good of humanity.

  • @bluesith

    Firstly, you initially write about spiritualism amongst 3 people, Matin Luther, Gandhi, and Mother Teressa. You also stated I can't deny individual people that are spiritual have done alot of good. Huh? Did I miss something? I didn't know I was in a discussion of "individual people who are spiritual" doing "a lot of good"

    I guess that is where you attempted to take the discussion from people being spiritual to stating matter of factly, there is a god. Fail.

  • Great clip. Sucks that everytime firefly and many others can't answer a question and their own short comings in logic are exposed they back into that corner of saying "well, thats just what I choose" :(

  • Yhe big bang never happened there always was and will allways be stuff in different forms

    God is just a word for I am ignorant types and followers.

  • Firefly should juss keep his defense of his religion to "credo quia absurdum"... Nice listen tho!

  • jeez sometimes christians can be stupider than the muslims!

  • stupider isnt a word. idiot.

  • let me guess: your probably some asshole christian trying to look for any excuse to bash an atheist. if theres anybody here whos an idiot, its you

  • wanna be taken seriously, learn how to spell

  • how to spell? that statement is so ridiculous im not even going to reply back to you anymore.

  • Well, if we are on the subject of grammar, thestrtingline48, you need to capitalize your sentences and you need an apostrophe in "isn't." Also, just saying "idiot" is a fragment. And "wanna" also isn't a real word. Try looking it up in a dictionary; it's not there. So you just made yourself look like a fool. Don't attack somebody's grammar if you can't even defend your own.

  • yo thanks for backin me up man. that retarde was just sayin that shit cause he didn't have anything else to say. what a little bitch

  • No problem man. Always happy to help out a fellow atheist. :)

  • I have talked to firefly before and he is just a cluelss and pathetic fucker...

  • i feel as if the christian was blown away...good guy though

  • at least come up with your own lines.

  • OK, i don't agree with the theists position but that fire fly guy sounded like a nice chap, I think your tone could have been a little bit nicer?, you might have even had a better response!.

    I know it is hard, but we do have a responsibility to be responsive to ppl and talk to them on there own merits, I feel anyway.

  • *begin satire*

    The earth is only 6000 years old. The earth is the center of the universe. The sun revolves around the earth. The earth is flat. Birds have four legs. Men are created from dirt. Women are created from men's ribs.

    Why can't stupid Atheists understand these commonly accepted facts?

    *end satire*

  • like 5 of those u mentioned are not even said in the bible idiot

    they were made up by middle-age statesman that didnt understand the bible

  • I bet if I had 9 months to reply I could come up with an even wittier reply than your's.

  • I bet...

    -.-

    and what do you know about who made up the 6000 yr old earth???

    hm??? it's not in the bible

  • ...you're spastic, dude. I have no idea what you mean.

  • well i thought you were replying to the earlier one

  • This is just painful...the guy, firefly, is just pathetic...

  • it is painful, but firefly515 doesn't seem pathetic. He seems like an average, somewhat rational Christian. He's not saying I have bullshit science to disprove evolution, he's just saying he believes because of faith. He says, he's not sure about macroevolution, he just thinks there's a God.

  • Man is the measure of all things: of things which are, that they are, and of things which are not, that they are not

  • Well, um, I mean, I'm just saying, you know, I mean, you know... good grief!

  • Theists love to restate WHAT there beliefs are rather, than answer WHY they have such beliefs.

  • poor firefly...

  • Go Joseph! I mean, Brian!

  • call me brian want to be on your show,lol seriously

  • Haha... That christian guy got totally pwned... Go RRS! =D

  • Heracles is the son of Zeus, King of the Gods almighty.

    Slayer of Giants and father of Sparta. There is no other son or god. To believe so is heresy.

  • Faith in zeus is no different to faith in the judeo-christian.

  • Well, in a way it's the same stuff, it's just as irrational, but it's not EXACTLY the same...

    But greek mythology is way more awesome! And it doesn't make peole do bad things becasue of it!

  • wow, youtube the place where humor and sarcasim is lost

  • Bruce, Laura sounded like an idiot. She barely even let Brian talk. Whenever Brian wanted to respond to her question, she just screamed above him. Not to mention she attacked Brian personally more then she made valid points about her religion. She was a douche.

  • I would whip your ass if you called me with questions like that, I have your answers

  • These doors well not stay closed no longer the church of jesus christ has fallen it is time for a new church to be open the members of church of jesus christ of ladder day saints you have failed and now you shall be closed make room for the new world order church and the community of saints are now of your sins repent!

  • I am so tired of being afriad so what do we do when we are afriad we hide?

    Why hide you are only going to live once. So why hide? Its time to fight back!

    I know we are at war as people and religions fight so let them fight and the new church must be open.

  • Just try to push this christian around and ai reveal your number for i still to this day call my self a prophet. Anyone who goes with me shall eat and drink with me any one who spits on me shall be spit on from the truth. Your church might be a place for accussion but my church is a place of rest and relaxion it is time for my church to be finally built amen.

  • lol the toaster anology is this crucifying you on the cross like jesus was should be your analogy.

    You think every christian is going to back down? You think every christian wants to let you slap him in the face? I am different i am of the new order and i dont let anyone slap me in the face. If you slap me in the face i kick you in head and then i beat out of you with the word of God amen.

  • It's good to listen to a calm, intelligent and respectful discussion. I especially liked the toaster analogy.

  • In the absence of science ancient civilization wrote stories to fill these scientific voids.We don't know the true orgins of life on earth and we may never know.Why would we look to ancient civilizations from the Middle East for answers?

  • get your fucking brainwash out of here...you delusional shit...posting like 10 times preeching wont change reality...fool!

  • You probly dont believe in spiritual healing either.

    You are free to believe in what you believe in you have choice and decission and free will but let me ask you something who put in your mind that there is no God? Truly i say to you you have fallen angel around you and anyone who goes near you shall be cursed amen.

  • "anyone who goes near you shall be cursed amen."

    are you serious? that cracked me up!!

  • National repsonse we all know you came here to just talk about your website who gives a damn about your website your trying to prove people there is no God Correct with that you well have war on your hands the people of this world make this world to me your are another cult leader trying to prove there is no God. Firefly is a good guy and i stand by him and raise him up as peter was raised up by Jesus.

  • Paul said Jesus changed this that you no longer have to go by this law the crowd grew angry and said bad names to Paul. They even though they were wrong believe to this day in order to be a jew you have to be circumcised in fact now the idiots of this world we live said it would protect you from hiv and Jesus said those who accept christ are just as blessed as those who are circumcised.

  • A true christian stands up for not be cause it is right or wrong because it is Gods will to be done and not his own. Paul says in the new testament that two crowds were debating on the law of the land that anyone who is going to be jewish would have to be circumcised.

  • When a blind man was asked to put his eyes in the water of gallilee he did so. Jesus said it is your faith that has made you see jesus did not say it was the water that made you see.

  • Many people look at people who are christian as people who have to earn there way to heaven. By tithing, doing good deeds and through water alone. These are hpocrites.

    Jesus said your tithing does not save you and who do give your tithing to the crowd said ceasar then give what is ceasars to ceasar and give what is Gods to God.

  • sAPIENE I LIKE TO SPELL IT THIS WAY.

    s for serphent we all know wh oyou praise buddy you praise your self and your slave to satan fact.

    Next your a is for asshole cause your major asshole p for pussie. i for idiot e for easy n for nay and e for earned.

  • Let me stop this speaker real quick as i put him on hold first off christianity is someone who believes and recieves in jesus the christ. Ok we have done now.

    Next to be a christian does not mean you need to get baptized for water alone does not to save you jesus quoted this in then in the new testament is your faith that saves you.

  • Im a Satanist. Heres faith! If god doesnt exist then neither does Satan. How does god exist? look around you. how did that tree get there? how did we get here? how did the moon and stars get there? Science can give there oppinion. They can never make a positive answer on how the galaxy got created!

  • Good discussion. My only problem, get rid of the music that automatically plays when you go on the rationalresponders website. That sheis is annoying.

    Hooray Rational Responders. I'm still having discussions with Christian acquaintances over your debate with Ray and Kirk for ABC.

  • has "know " idea what they are talking about eh?

  • please find someone who knows anything more about the bible this guy has know idea what he is talking about

  • Word.

  • the only thing i despise about the rational response squad is that you guys want to end all religion and thats just wrong. if i were given a button to press to end all atheism i would deny it no doubt because its wrong to take away your guys' beliefs so why do you insist on taking that faith away from us? i hope you guys at rational response do read this though. atheists and theists have to atleast learn to live with eachother in this world rather than argue about the existence of another world

  • probably the first time i've respected the rational response squad. ive always respected atheists, so dont get me wrong. but having a reasonable, respectful conversation is the best thing we can do rite now. all we're doing is bitching at and threatening eachother.

  • Hi Brian! I just like thank you for your great efforts to free USA from christianity. I've been very concerned about the state of your country. You guys are probably the only hope there, so my best wishes to you!

  • shut up people can do what they want

  • I like how firefly keeps dodging the questions about his beliefs by saying "I can't prove gawd's existence to you", "We could argue about this forever" and such.

  • Firefly got absolutely p0wnd

  • I agree with one thing firefly said, I can't prove to you there is no God and you can't prove to me there isn't. The Bible says "taste and see that the Lord is good". In other words, you have to experience it for yourself... if you don't want to, that's your choice.

  • ii1only...it is one thing to have faith, it is another to use circular reasoning to hold to one faith over another, ie the bible says the bible is inherent, therefor the bible IS inherent. Also, just because one cannot prove a negative, does not mean the negative therefor exists or is a reality by default. True, one cannot disprove the bible god, and it is also true than one cannot disprove that I have invisible magical pink unicorns that live under my bed.

  • There's no need to disprove or prove that He exists. If you have invisible unicorns under your bed, I won't say you're wrong. I'll just say I don't see them. Man has walked on the moon, but many claim to have evidence against it, who's telling the truth? No one knows except NASA. God's real to me, if you choose not to believe it because of theory or "scientific evidence" then don't believe! I'm gonna keep praising Him until the day I die. He's real & nothing anyone says will change that!

  • ii1only,,,you go boy.  As for evidence no one has walked on the moon, well, those people are called conspiracy theorists not fact finders. And like I said, belief in god is one thing, believing the bible is the true and literal word of god just because the bible says so, is ludicrous and can be disproven. Unless of course you give up your reason, logic, rational, intellectual honesty and integrity. THEN of course you can assert it is inherent.

  • Now with that I can agree with! My belief in God is based on my personal experience. the Bible is an encouragement (as any bible for any religion is) but is not my reason for believing in God. anyone can pick up a book called 'the Bible,' but it doesn't mean they're gonna see or hear God! The Bible isn't a magic wand that makes people believe in God!

  • not keen on sapiens view of a loving wife/SLAVE

  • i dont like firefly515 he upset me with his athiest videos

  • The southern guy was nice, with good intentions. But in the end of it all, he hadn't a leg to stand on. He was more or less saying "just because science PROVES something, doesn't mean it's a fact/real." That is just silly. Did you notice his many silences after certain points? Nice fella though...

  • haha that firefly guy is an idiot!

  • That firefly guy is an Atheist.

  • no hes a christian

  • He stopped being a Christian like 2 or more monthes ago.

  • So many traps laid by Sapient and so many fallen into by firefly..

    pwned.

  • Yup yup

  • he has preserved our lives and kept our feet from slipping. For you, O God, tested us;  you refined us like silver.You brought us into prison and laid burdens on our backs.You let men ride over our heads; we went through fire and water, but you brought us to a place of abundance.

  • For the director of music. A song. A psalm.Shout with joy to God, all the earth!Sing the glory of his name; make his praise glorious!Say to God, "How awesome are your deeds! So great is your power that your enemies cringe before you.

    All the earth bows down to you; they sing praise to you, they sing praise to your name."

     Selah

  • not true. We may not have all the answers yet, but we can find them with time.

  • Some questions have no answers....yet,unfortunately human beings have a knack of inventing answers and we're still playing and evolving answers invented by primitive man,,,,ummm,kind.

  • These days we have to accept that religeon was created by human beings as somewhat of a security blanket. That blanket isn't needed anymore. To believe in God is reassuring, but to honestly believe in a christian god, or a jewish god, to me is pointless. If there is a God "he" doesnt interact with human beings and anything "he" has said was inserted by the flaud mind of human beings. Religeon has lost its way.

  • RR show a lot of deep hatred towards someone they claim doesn't exist myspace IDenyBrianSapient

  • Nah, that's just impatience with willing ignorance. I get that a lot, with both theists and atheists. Atheists have just as many unsubstantiated preconceptions about stuff as theists, they're just on different subjects.

  • Science is still evolving, while religion relies on old books and a bunch of unproven, completely far-out stuff in the bible. The church burned people who though that the sun didn't revolve around the earth (and not the other way around, like it actually is). Trying to say that science can't prove everything now doesn't mean it never will. Whereas, the whole god and religion thing becomes less and less believeable with the more we come to understand.

  • ahhhhhh dude for real ask me these questions cause firefly dude is not prepaired...its a shame i live in colombia...really dont make this one sided ask a strong believer...coward

  • yeah i believe in God and there is nothing in this world, or words that will convince me other wise..pretty much mr.sapient i must say that most of your arguments are shallow and not very clear...pluss the whole outburst of laughter and the childish pink poney comparisons...comon amaze me

    for real....do u really feel like ur doing the right thing...and hey if u want to sound seriouse then u should consider changing squad to like team or like group jst dont make it saound like a cheerleader.

  • "yeah i believe in God and there is nothing in this world, or words that will convince me other wise."

    Very open minded.

  • The shocker comes when you realize how much persuasion was needed to make them convince them to start believing that tripe in the first place.

  • i cant believe i watched this whole thing

  • Firefly is physically the ugliest human alive imo