@MyV1d34U 1: this is not a real ad, and second, pc is copying mac harware? and btw... a macintosh is a pc (personal computer) the only difference is that ios is running smother, has less viruses, but then again, you pay way to much for the computer. but windows has more programs, and its easier to overclock and stuff like that. still prefer ubuntu tho (sorry for my bad English, i am norwegian)
Ummm, this isn't a Microsoft ad. And Microsoft doesn't make hardware, so it can't exactly copy it. Apple, on the other hand, is using old PC hardware from 3 years ago that everyone else has left behind in favor of cutting-edge technology.
Even when an add like is is against Mac It still makes me think of the successful mac ad's therefore not destroying the marketing of it but more helping spreading it. If these ad's are so bad to pc lovers why do they insist on copying them, why can't they make their own style of mac pc comparison ad
i don't think this video is about porn, i think it's saying that since pc's run the business world the owner of one can afford to take an overpriced prostitute to aspen for the weekend for drinking and sex while the mac is that art major that constantly fucks up my double shot 16oz mocha.
@aryllia Never the less, it's STRONG suggestion that this video a a bunch of jealousy induced ridiculousness. Of course, I'm not stupid enough to think that Apple people simply always get girls and the like. But we all know that Mac owners are the more casual, 'got a life' area of computer owners (in most cases). If you want to deny that, then your will basically be saying that it's more functional than Windows, which Windows people generally argue the opposite.
@aussienerds Frankly I think both sides are equally retarded. I use the kind of computer I have because it works for me. That's really all what it about. Use what works for you. Mac works for you? Jolly nice for you, use a mac! Mac doesn't work for you? Then use something else. It shouldn't be harder than that.
PC's Suck;Macs don't...Mac's are 10x as fast;PC's are 10x slower...Macs have epic graphics;PC's don't...Macs don't get viruses...PC's do...Macs may run fewer run games, but they kick the PC's butt when they do run games... And I type this all on a completely wireless, PC smashing... speed of light, incredible iCandy... MACINTOSH
Oh, as a footnote, Hynix RAM recently went up against Samsung TCCD RAM in a test (Samsung is considered middle-grade) and their extremely low-lat timings could be kept at 220Mhz, while the Hynix RAM choked and sputtered and would theoretically need to be clocked up to 260MHz to achieve the same results.
That pretty much means that it's a failure across the board. Anyone will tell you that the reason Apple chose Hynix is because of one thing: ECONOMICS.
Like so many others, you bought into the Apple B.S. "Hey, I've got an idea guys! Let's stick ECC RAM in all of our non-server machines, even though ECC RAM is SLOWER than conventional RAM, and that way everyone will think it's better. We won't tell them that it's Hynix RAM, and we'll overcharge for it and make a FORTUNE!"
And you swallowed it :) I'm very, very disappointed.
Wrong again :) for the umpteenth time. Hynix RAM is extremely cheap. ECC RAM, unfortunately for you, is the exact same price as regular grade RAM. Check Shopbot for comparisons.
As for Christmas, call me crazy, but wasn't the word "Sale" invented for a reason? I don't think "Sale" means "jack up the price." Your straw-grasping is getting worse, my friend. Now you're just jabbering.
@MaestroDraven I'm afraid you are mistaken. Hynix RAM is actually pretty pricey to begin with, especially if it has ECC support, which is server grade. Also, 16gb ram is double the standard size shipped in the mac pro, so all these topped with Apple's profit margin makes it $750.
@MaestroDraven and here we go again. Coming up with the same bollocks over and over. I meant rarely increases with each new gen. And anyway, give me five examples of prices that didn't increase at Christmas. Every manufacturer does that, and no one gives a fuck, yet when apple do it you turn it into some huge scandal and pretend that even your precious Microsoft doesn't do it, which it does.
@MacDroidify well acording to MAC comercials, PC is useless piece of garbage that is fully virused, requires tons of software to work, cant work when it has anti-virus installed, doesn't work without crashes, cant do picture and movie editing, cant do drawing... These commercials are bullshit because they jab small Windows bugs. WHy? Cus Mac is overpriced piece of fail with a brand. Why isnt there a video about Mac's supremacy in lets say... video games?
hmm. so wheres the video that shows you how much other junk you would normally buy to keep your PC from getting a virus? this shows nothing about a PC. congrats on the umm.....waste of your own time making this.
@ThinkFab beside antivirus what else would you need, and you can either buy one, the most expensive not costing that much at all, or chose from the plethora of free antivirus out there. And lets not forget about Apples growing problem with viruses
@kienocard Well if you want to go there it is really Windows vs. Mac retard.
Apple is basically hardware, saying that is like saying windows makes computers when it is really an OS. Mac is the OS intelligent guy, and if you should know Apple is the one that made it "Mac" vs. "PC" and this is just a parody of it. But you knew that because you are intelligent.
@DoUgsTer252 Why is that Macs only go to line, oh you must be poor cause you don't use a Mac Trolol. Well I can afford a Mac, but I realize that Macs cost way too much for their hardware. It's not about being rich or poor, it's about using your money wisely.
A good rebuttal for the "you're too poor to afford one" tactic (shoddy as it is) is to ask why the hardware in your "poor" PC is three times as powerful as the Mac. I always go back to this simple fact. Spending cash frivolously is the very definition of "a fool and his money soon parted." Indeed, most Mac customers are very foolish, especially when the proof is right there. $750 dollars to upgrade a Mac from 6GB of RAM to 16GB? That's inexcusable.
@MaestroDraven I'll agree with you in regards to buying RAM or HD from Apple. But how do you generally conclude hardware in a PC is inherently 3 timer more powerful than a Mac? Macs range from LV i5 to dual Xeons for CPUs. Where are your specs of comparison and would they fit with average PC purchased by consumers?
@ribaldi You do know that the prices for a PC for a i7 2600k overclocked to 4.5 GHZ costs around $800? It's Ironic because you like Macs and look at Best Buy for the prices. It's funny because both of them scam you at least $300 for a premium.
@Gfulino The question is about 3x as powerful between PC and Mac hardware. You probably know that 3x clock speed ≠ 3x as powerful in performing tasks because running sw 3x as fast isn't a direct 1:1 ratio between CPU clock speed vs speed of task to be performed.
ribaldi, while I do agree that things like Xeons are pieces of hardware, they are still way behind the times. Take a look at the 8 and 16-core Bulldozer CPUs for instance. They boast an 89% lead over even the best server CPUs, and Intel is releasing even better than that in the next few months. Xeons aren't inherently better at much, and i5's are budget-range CPUs at best. Even Thunderbolt isn't Mac-exclusive. Why are $2000 iMacs being beaten badly by $1000 PCs?
@doona22 The big problem with 2560X1440 is that very little programs (outside of games) can actually utilize it. Hell more programs support 2560X1600... and considering that most users would never utilize it, 1920X1080 is more than enough for most people, which goes back to PCs ability to have a system built for exactly what you need it for, not for what someone else thinks you need it for.
Having a big desktop area is very nice, my friend, but what's the use if you can't properly take advantage of it? The only reason you'd need a monitor with that much viewing area is for professional graphics and video editing.....neither of which the iMac was designed to handle. The horsepower simply can't do it. Gaming? Good luck getting past 1680x1050 without significant lag (unless you're playing a 5 year old game like WoW).
Also, for $300, you can buy yourself two ASUS ML238 24" monitors which are LED backlit with a beautiful display. Might not be 2560x1440, but at least they'll suit what my system was designed for.
@MaestroDraven Apple does revamp their systems at a slower pace. But that wasn't my question to you. You've stated: "... the hardware in your "poor" PC is three times as powerful as the Mac". I find that is not the case. There is a significant % of PCs still using Celerons and Durons. Apple doesn't use these budget CPUs at all. So I asked you specifics for comparison sake to illustrate 3x as powerful between PCs and Macs.
Ahhhh, but you're comparing buy vs. buy to buy vs. build. That's usually where I tend to create confusion. I'm not big on buying from any brand name, as building yields supreme results with plenty of leftover cash. Look at it from that perspective. Even the best of the Apple crop can't compare with the paradigm shifts in RAM, video cards and CPUs. Take a look at Bulldozer, which is trumping the best server CPUs in the entire industry with an 89% lead.
Very simple. When a Mac customer says "you're too poor to afford one," you simply have to ask them why your "poor" PC can best the "expensive" Mac in performance, versatility and expandability. Why is that? Why are $1000 PCs knocking $1999 iMacs completely on their butts with every third-party benchmark? Why is Apple too afraid to benchmark Macs against PCs on their websites, if they're so good? Shouldn't Apple be trumpeting the superiority of their machines?
@MaestroDraven That wasn't the argument I have question about. It was about 3x as powerful. I'm not disputing you on price. Is there reliable data that a "poor" PC is 3 times as powerful as a Mac?
I believe Apple is trumping the ease of use and tighter integration as a selling point. They don't advertise based on clock speed, expandability and other PC builder aspects in regards to Macs. It's a totally different market.
We can sit and argue the meaning of the term, but it's irrelevant. What isn't irrelevant is that Apple hasn't kept up, and that's purely by choice to drive sales of hardware that is several generations behind on the timeline. That's a fact. Ease of use and tighter integration are 100% subjective and relative, and can't be proven in real-world applications vs. Linux or Windows 7. It merely depends how you implement the OS. OSX by definition isn't as fast, or secure. Facts.
@MaestroDraven That wasn't my question to you. Perhaps you're unable to back up with facts that a "poor" PC is 3 times as power as a Mac. What does that even mean? Now I'm done asking. It appears no answer is forth coming. Thanks for replying anyways.
Check the hardware stats on the latest PC hardware vs. the latest Mac hardware, and it will all become clear to you. I expect the people I debate with to be capable of entering some very simplistic search parameters. Either way, I've nothing to prove :)
@ribaldi of course he has no facts. he builds an air and a pretence of intelligence to cover up his craftily written bullcrap. he's the personification of apple itself!
@ribaldi mr maestro-bullcrap-draven over there. me and him go way back in terms of arguments. i have plenty of time to study his arguments, and most are completely unfounded. he uses a calm, precise and intelligent manner to make himself appear knowledgable and wise, and yet it is all a ruse. and worse still, he denounces your real knowledge if you defy is word.
@InhabitantOfOddworld Oh right. Well, I guess you must have fun debating him. He equated Moore's Law with paradigm shifts in the PC industry. That convinced me I was not going to get much out of him. Have fun.
You may wish to side with people who haven't made silly claims. Read as follows from a sample PM he sent me.
InhabitantofOddWorld: "Look at innovation over the whole course of Apple's history. Without them, you wouldn't have a mouse, an LCD display, or even a case."
I had no idea that Apple invented the mouse, the LCD display, and the computer case. Did you??? It's certainly news to me.
maestro thank u for the information. i was going to buy a Mac but after listening to your comments i am not going to. I never thought about some of the stuff u were talking about but it all makes sense. thank you very much for that!!
Heyyyy, my pleasure Hailey! Glad to be of help! Believe it or not, I'm not trying to bash Macs. I'm just educating people about the silliness of shelling out so much money for so little. Macs aren't the machines they claim to be from a security standpoint, or a performance standpoint. Apple however, does a great, great job of brainwashing some people into thinking otherwise. The key word with ANY product is RESEARCH. If it doesn't seem right, it's probably not.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Windows doesn't make hardware, so it would be pointless for them to do so. Apple never benchmarks against PC manufacturers because they always seem to lose by a wide stretch, which is why they benchmark against previous Mac iterations.
Now, look at it from Apple's standpoint. Does it make any sense to upgrade the Macs regularly to higher hardware configurations when they can keep it relatively the same and then overcharge for it? Case in point: RAM upgrades. Take a look at the gall of Apple's prices. They are horrible. Apple is all about profit, profit, profit, so to keep a 17" Macbook Pro at $2499 with the hardware inside gives them a higher profit margin, especially since the know-nothing won't notice.
@MaestroDraven Already agreed with you regarding RAM pricing from Apple. Now, what is wrong with profit? Which companies are not about making more profits?
Apple kept their margins high and yet still increase their Mac sales. They've managed it, they deserve to gain from it. Other PC makers would love to be in that position - and they've tried. But because of the market they are in and their business model, they cannot manage it. That's all.
They haven't increased very much, my friend. Mac market share was 4.7% in 2007. Now it's 6%. That's four years later. Not exactly something to shout from the rooftops. Windows 7's sales ran several circles around Snow Leopard's sales in the first two weeks of release....after SL had a 3 month head start. For every Mac sold, 100 PCs are sold, easily. Apple's mass profits come from the mobile market.....period. Not from Mac sales.
@MaestroDraven These are numbers to shout about. From SEC filings: (all profit number in $billions) Total Mac revenue 2011- 21.783 2010- 17.479 2009- 13.859 Margin is 23.95%. Apply it to Mac revenue to get profits from just Mac sales. Profits from peers: HPQ (all divisions) 2011- 8.761 2010-7.660 2009- 8.329 Dell (all divisions) FY2011 not completed 2010- 2.635 2009- 1.433 The unexpected thing is, the Chinese market is responding well to Macs now. We shall see.
You're comparing one platform against several others. Sure, those companies might be each making less, but the sum of their parts is completely obvious, and that's just big-box companies. It doesn't take into account the third-party customizer companies or the home user who builds it himself (which number VERY high). The facts are undeniable. 92.27% of the world has chosen PCs over Macs, and that number won't be changing drastically in the next 10 years.
There is no exact figure as nobody can report it, but it can be roughly extrapolated based on OS usage share, market share and the difference when box company numbers are subtracted from the equation. There are sources that list the custom-built market at roughly 25% - 30% of the PC market.
@MaestroDraven tsk, tsk, tsk. the same repetitive lies over and over. most of the world hasn't chosen PCs over Macs because they are in any way better, but because they are cheaper and more available. what you have laughably failed to realise is that Apple's prices rarely change, either up or down, and yet consumers are progressively becoming richer. before you know, Macs will have a larger marketshare because consumers can afford them.
Rarely change? Before Christmas, Mac prices were $200 cheaper. Right before the Christmas season.....woosh! They went up. I wonder why that is? Upgrading to 16GB of RAM went from $750 to $850! And honestly...why should Apple drop their prices when they're still putting 2 year old hardware configurations together? Where' s the profit (price gouging) in that?
But please.....if you can find a logical, valid reason why 16GB of cheap, low-grade Hynix RAM should cost $750 dollars, then please post it here. I'm dying to know.
Like I said, Apple's future is the mobile market, and they should stay firmly entrenched there because that is where they seem to be doing the best business.
Now, as a consumer, you should be more acutely aware of what you're paying for. There is a myth in Western culture that the higher a dollar value is, the better the quality. That is why Nissan invented the Infiniti brand for the Western market, but it doesn't exist in Japan. Honda did the same thing with Acura. It's a ploy that has been used for a long time now. If you think it's justifiable to pay $750 to upgrade 6GB of RAM to 16GB, then that's entirely your choice, I guess.
The problem isn't Mac hardware. Not exactly, anyways. The problem is the price that Apple is charging for that hardware. It is absolutely, in no way justifiable, not when the PC landscape is continuously evolving on a consistent basis, and leaping by paradigm shifts every few months. Apple likes to appear "on their game" by doing cash deals with companies like Intel for temporary exclusivity, but it's all a smokescreen. At the end of the day, Macs are sorely lacking.
My friend, the very industry leaps ahead by bounds every few months. Macs utilize PC parts as well. The only difference is, they prefer to hang back 16-24 months in order to prioritize profiteering. Components costs drop drastically within the space of a few months, yet Apple's prices never change. This is very easy to understand, just think about it.
Haha! You didn't read my comment carefully enough :) There are too many to mention. Transistor sizes keep getting smaller, CPUs keep leapfrogging (ie: Bulldozer) hard drives become bigger and more powerful, RAM latency timings continue to drop......and on top of all that, prices stay affordable despite the premium level of the parts.
@MaestroDraven You're defining paradigm shifts as gradual improvements in components relative to cost. That's Moore's Law and not necessarily a paradigm shift. A paradigm shift is changing the industry's thinking and operation that break away from past conventions. Multi-core winning over higher clock speeds in CPU design is an example of paradigm shift. Without referring to aspects of Moore's Law because that's just expected gradual improvements, what paradigm shifts occurred this past year?
@MaestroDraven it's justifiable in that apple is a business, there to make money and their excellent marketing means people continue to buy macs. Why would they reduce the price when they make the largest profit of any personal computer manufacturer on earth?
Actually, they aren't. With a 6% worldwide market share, Apple has had a disastrous run in the grand scheme of things. In 2007 they had 4.7% of the market. A 1.3% jump in 5 years isn't good. It's atrocious. Now factor in the fact that most Mac customers are repeat buyers, and what is happening? A whole lot of nothing. Apple's major business bulk is the mobile market. Macs account for very little of their overall coin.
Actually, they aren't. With a 6% worldwide market share, Apple has had a disastrous run in the grand scheme of things. In 2007 they had 4.7% of the market. A 1.3% jump in 5 years isn't good. It's atrocious. Now factor in the fact that most Mac customers are repeat buyers, and what is happening? A whole lot of nothing. Apple's major business bulk is the mobile market. Macs account for very little of their overall coin.
Actually, they aren't. With a 6% worldwide market share, Apple has had a disastrous run in the grand scheme of things. In 2007 they had 4.7% of the market. A 1.3% jump in 5 years isn't good. It's atrocious. Now factor in the fact that most Mac customers are repeat buyers, and what is happening? A whole lot of nothing. Apple's major business bulk is the mobile market. Macs account for very little of their overall coin.
Their marketing is not at all about their advertising savvy, but your personal lack of knowledge about the product in question. The build quality, the security, the speed....they're all myths, and bad ones at that. The class action lawsuits, Pwn2Own contests, Black Hat and Defcon speeches (by Apple employees, no less), third-party benchmarks all prove it. Yet....it still costs more. Way more. It's a textbook example of the higher price myth.
@MaestroDraven while i agree that their apparent 'great security' is purely Apple playing up the fact that hardly anyone writes mac viruses, i disagree with your issues with the speed and build, essentially as my Mac regularly runs far more arduous tasks than my PC ever did and yet isn't as loud or hot. also, it is completely irrelevant about product knowledge to know they have great marketing skill. You always build a pretence of knowledge so your arguments appear to have a factual basis.
That being said, if their marketing has duped you, then it's a testament not to their advertising savvy, but your lack of knowledge and research on what you're buying. Quality? Not there. The class action lawsuits prove it. They sell significantly less machines, so you hear about problems less often. Same as the Canadian/U.S. murder rate difference. Ratio-wise, they're neck-and-neck, but the U.S. simply has more people. Security? Non-existent. Pwn2own proved it.
@MaestroDraven ooh, well look at this. winning thumbs up with craftily written codswallop. It is common knowledge that Macs have a great hardware, and thus are even great for running games (who would have thought it?!!) they're only lacking due to their software, and thus incompatibility. It is common knowledge that if they ran a more compatible OS, they'd be one of the best computer ranges on the market.
You can't tell one side is superior than another if you tell the other side they are all fags. Macs and PCs are good at their own little things. PC with games and Macs with work. Not all people are gamers and not all people do work so take your pick. :)
MAC IS A PI-BIT OS OF WHICH THE Y DRIVE LOGISTICALLY NEGATES THE IMPERATIVE OPERATIONS OF THE CORN KERNEL AND THE HARD DRIVE PUNCTURES THE CD DRIVE AND RELEASES SPARKS AFTER WHIRRING VIGOROUSLY AND BLAH BLAH BLAH...
@MuhammedALee17 Nobody says MacOS is bad (but you're also forgeting MacOS is simply unix with better skin so wow they really put a lot of "effort" in it). just saying, why should i buy something thats as good or worse (deff not better) and im not used on and pay twice as much? Not everyone has money to waste around. If you want to use Mac then be my guest, just stop acting like its f***ing god given computer cause its not, its way over priced and lacks hardware reconfigurations capabilites.
It's interesting to note that OSX is more of a hybrid kernel than a UNIX derivative. It's undergone so many internal changes, mixing in FreeBSD, Mach, etc., that it is more "UNIX-compatible" than actual UNIX. From a tech standpoint this makes sense given OSX's inherent lack of security which makes it a breeze for hackers and malware authors to take advantage of the platform. By contrast, making an attack work on Windows is notoriously difficult.
Windows sucks and makes no sense just like this video. That old fart doesn't look rich enough to get that young woman, but that's how dopey Winbreds see themselves. hahahah right
@xyzoneon Well we all know Mac sucks its Like comparing Justin bieber to Adele or Frank Sinatra in this case Justin Bieber is Mac and Frank Sinatra is Windows we all know hes better.
Are you guys serious? A Mac is basiclly a fucking PC. You're able to install Windows on a "Mac" machine and OSX on a normal selfbuild PC. Guess what, my i7 has triple boot with ubuntu, win7 and OSX. But i guess i'll delete OSX because its kinda crap.
@slyspy70 yet ANOTHER mac FANBOY. man you guys just get stupider everyday. you're inherent lack of knowledge about computers reflects a fundamental cognitive bias by virtue of which anything you say is void. "macs are faster and easier to edit videos with"??? are you fucking stupid?? it depends on the processor you retard and the computation at hand and when it comes to object oriented programming, windows beats mac out anyday. mac is good for unix ONLY. get your shit right before you spew idiot
@slyspy70 and you just serve to validate my point you retard. thank you. you are living proof that the majority of humanity is in fact layered with stupidity
@slyspy70 yeah there is, you know, the guys that just repeat all the things that Apple puts out in their ads regardless of if their true or not (which a great deal is stretching the the truth or a flat out lie). most cannot form their own opinions about anything so they just go with what's "hip".
I actually really prefer Mac's. My family used to have two PC's, one a laptop and one a normal computer. Both of them wouldn't work after a while from viruses. My family now only uses Apple products and nothing has broken yet, and we have 3 ipods, an iphone 3, an iphone 4, a macbook, 3 macbook pro's, 2 macs and 1 ipad and an ipad 2 and nothing has ever gone wrong with any of them.
Pc are just jealous cos mac is WAAAAAYYY better and that girl is probablly a virus becuase viruses are always attracted to pcs and all mac needs is themselves cos they can ay all of them great songs from itunes and what can pc do? Im guessing cry in a corner!
@CblingblingdP Do you have any idea what your talking about lol PCs are way better in performance prize and looks to Macs and iTunes is shit and available for PC also so your stupid.
I suppose the people who bitch about the girl being a trojan and whatnot are mac users living in their parents basement, raging in jealousy because they recognise themself a little too much in that clip ;)
Steve Jobs died lol
TheOmnipotentChurro 3 days ago
PC even copies Mac ads as well as the hardware and software now
MyV1d34U 6 days ago
@MyV1d34U 1: this is not a real ad, and second, pc is copying mac harware? and btw... a macintosh is a pc (personal computer) the only difference is that ios is running smother, has less viruses, but then again, you pay way to much for the computer. but windows has more programs, and its easier to overclock and stuff like that. still prefer ubuntu tho (sorry for my bad English, i am norwegian)
omgwtfbbqbay 4 days ago
@MyV1d34U
Ummm, this isn't a Microsoft ad. And Microsoft doesn't make hardware, so it can't exactly copy it. Apple, on the other hand, is using old PC hardware from 3 years ago that everyone else has left behind in favor of cutting-edge technology.
MaestroDraven 1 day ago
Was that Steve Jobs? XD
DerErstaunliche 1 week ago
Even when an add like is is against Mac It still makes me think of the successful mac ad's therefore not destroying the marketing of it but more helping spreading it. If these ad's are so bad to pc lovers why do they insist on copying them, why can't they make their own style of mac pc comparison ad
jonanice 1 week ago
i don't think this video is about porn, i think it's saying that since pc's run the business world the owner of one can afford to take an overpriced prostitute to aspen for the weekend for drinking and sex while the mac is that art major that constantly fucks up my double shot 16oz mocha.
solidstatenasty 1 week ago
you can get porn on a DS i dont get how this makes sense
jimcoolfilms 3 weeks ago
PC = old fart hahaha
Asiats1 1 month ago
@Asiats1 Hahaha, thats exactly why your shitty overpriced mac cant even run a game from 2001,
prvngal65 3 weeks ago
@prvngal65 PC Virus *cough* :)
Asiats1 3 weeks ago
@Asiats1 you think macs cant get virsus either?lol show how much you know
prvngal65 3 weeks ago
@prvngal65 PC Virus *cough* blue screen of death *cough*
Asiats1 3 weeks ago
@Asiats1 shut the fuck up. please, stop embarassing yourself.
prvngal65 3 weeks ago
@prvngal65 Nuns and hookers can get VD. They don't tend to get them at quite the same rate. (Hint, your PC is the hooker in this analogy)
ToyRail 1 week ago
??? I don't get this?
MacDroidify 1 month ago
You never see people making response videos to Windows ads... Kinda of a compliment to Apple's marketing people.
PuertoRicanVideo 1 month ago
Um wow. Someone's insecurity was rubbed so hard by those Apple ads, they felt the need to make this? Couldn't make something creative? Useful?
ToyRail 1 month ago 2
@ToyRail lolumad?
Bazuna 1 week ago
@Bazuna Is that Esperanto?
ToyRail 1 week ago
Fudge off! A legitimate study has shown that having an iPhone increases your chances of getting a girl. Bitches.
aussienerds 1 month ago
@aussienerds If a girl is so cheap that an iPhone will persuade her to choose a guy then the question is if she really is something to brag about.
aryllia 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@aryllia Never the less, it's STRONG suggestion that this video a a bunch of jealousy induced ridiculousness. Of course, I'm not stupid enough to think that Apple people simply always get girls and the like. But we all know that Mac owners are the more casual, 'got a life' area of computer owners (in most cases). If you want to deny that, then your will basically be saying that it's more functional than Windows, which Windows people generally argue the opposite.
aussienerds 1 month ago
@aussienerds Frankly I think both sides are equally retarded. I use the kind of computer I have because it works for me. That's really all what it about. Use what works for you. Mac works for you? Jolly nice for you, use a mac! Mac doesn't work for you? Then use something else. It shouldn't be harder than that.
aryllia 1 month ago
The truth hurts doesn't it macfags
DardyGamer 1 month ago
@DardyGamer fag
YeehMate 1 month ago
@DardyGamer Not buying more shares of AAPL when it was below 80 back in 2008 does hurt quite a lot today.
ribaldi 1 month ago
no, just... no.
pacer142086 1 month ago
XDD Mac is Mac.. :D
iMajche0 1 month ago
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All of you guys say a flipping PC is better only because that's what you have... If only you were good enough to touch a Mac..... ;)
CJ9ELITE 1 month ago
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PC's Suck;Macs don't...Mac's are 10x as fast;PC's are 10x slower...Macs have epic graphics;PC's don't...Macs don't get viruses...PC's do...Macs may run fewer run games, but they kick the PC's butt when they do run games... And I type this all on a completely wireless, PC smashing... speed of light, incredible iCandy... MACINTOSH
CJ9ELITE 1 month ago
Oh, as a footnote, Hynix RAM recently went up against Samsung TCCD RAM in a test (Samsung is considered middle-grade) and their extremely low-lat timings could be kept at 220Mhz, while the Hynix RAM choked and sputtered and would theoretically need to be clocked up to 260MHz to achieve the same results.
That pretty much means that it's a failure across the board. Anyone will tell you that the reason Apple chose Hynix is because of one thing: ECONOMICS.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld
Like so many others, you bought into the Apple B.S. "Hey, I've got an idea guys! Let's stick ECC RAM in all of our non-server machines, even though ECC RAM is SLOWER than conventional RAM, and that way everyone will think it's better. We won't tell them that it's Hynix RAM, and we'll overcharge for it and make a FORTUNE!"
And you swallowed it :) I'm very, very disappointed.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven Maybe Apple has been aiming to strongly maintain their "So much more reliable" advantage by doing that.
aussienerds 1 month ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld
Wrong again :) for the umpteenth time. Hynix RAM is extremely cheap. ECC RAM, unfortunately for you, is the exact same price as regular grade RAM. Check Shopbot for comparisons.
As for Christmas, call me crazy, but wasn't the word "Sale" invented for a reason? I don't think "Sale" means "jack up the price." Your straw-grasping is getting worse, my friend. Now you're just jabbering.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven I'm afraid you are mistaken. Hynix RAM is actually pretty pricey to begin with, especially if it has ECC support, which is server grade. Also, 16gb ram is double the standard size shipped in the mac pro, so all these topped with Apple's profit margin makes it $750.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven and here we go again. Coming up with the same bollocks over and over. I meant rarely increases with each new gen. And anyway, give me five examples of prices that didn't increase at Christmas. Every manufacturer does that, and no one gives a fuck, yet when apple do it you turn it into some huge scandal and pretend that even your precious Microsoft doesn't do it, which it does.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 months ago
Then the PC dude gets an upgrade and pimps out well, himself then whose better ?
Kuchirikaro 2 months ago
Lol, "Mac Hardware". It's just rebranded hardware for normal PCs, except OS X has a hardware "whitelist" so to speak.
aidenscool09 2 months ago
at least the mac user is sexier
marketanarchist2011 2 months ago
@marketanarchist2011 So Sexy he gets to go skiing with the friend.
ThoseDesertBoots 2 months ago
dude, there's porn on macs too… this ad makes no sense.
Laseranders 2 months ago 34
@Laseranders No, it's about their owners, you dick.
highestsettings 2 months ago
@Laseranders just like mac ads spawn bullshit about pcs.
Kserijaro 1 month ago
@Kserijaro ?? since when???
MacDroidify 1 month ago
@MacDroidify well acording to MAC comercials, PC is useless piece of garbage that is fully virused, requires tons of software to work, cant work when it has anti-virus installed, doesn't work without crashes, cant do picture and movie editing, cant do drawing... These commercials are bullshit because they jab small Windows bugs. WHy? Cus Mac is overpriced piece of fail with a brand. Why isnt there a video about Mac's supremacy in lets say... video games?
Kserijaro 1 month ago
@Laseranders Gay porn
talldude123 2 weeks ago 2
ROFL
astro1O 2 months ago
hmm. so wheres the video that shows you how much other junk you would normally buy to keep your PC from getting a virus? this shows nothing about a PC. congrats on the umm.....waste of your own time making this.
ThinkFab 3 months ago
@ThinkFab beside antivirus what else would you need, and you can either buy one, the most expensive not costing that much at all, or chose from the plethora of free antivirus out there. And lets not forget about Apples growing problem with viruses
wilhamlin 3 months ago
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@ThinkFab "hmm. so wheres the video that shows you how much other junk you would normally buy to keep your PC from getting a virus?"
You mean like Microsoft Security Essentials (free), Avast Anti-Virus (free) or Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (also free)?
Because I can tell you, use MSE and Malwarebytes, and in the 4 years I've had my PC, I've not had ONE virus.
It's called not being a complete fucking moron. Most adept PC users usually aren't.
AndrewDeLong 2 months ago
If you're going to mock someone, please do it intelligently.
The war is in fact Windows vs. Apple.
a P.C. is an acronym for a 'personal computer'. Mac's are P.C.s too.
kienocard 3 months ago
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Hewicks 3 months ago
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@kienocard If you're going to mock someone, please do it intelligently.
There is no war; it's only an arms race. No battles have been fought.
Hewicks 3 months ago
@kienocard Well if you want to go there it is really Windows vs. Mac retard.
Apple is basically hardware, saying that is like saying windows makes computers when it is really an OS. Mac is the OS intelligent guy, and if you should know Apple is the one that made it "Mac" vs. "PC" and this is just a parody of it. But you knew that because you are intelligent.
sonnyman93 2 months ago
@kienocard But, the mac isn't a computer
CrazyWoWGamer 2 months ago
wow that was toooo far.
tkdpeep02456 3 months ago
mac is cooler then a pc, so get a mac and ruin your life not to use a pc
00robintje00 3 months ago
hahaa thats it...this one is the best!, YEA MACINTOOOSH YOURE BORING MATE.
MaliDachi 3 months ago
0:28 sucks
LeDedMouse 3 months ago
Wow. This made no point at all.
LeleJackMusic 3 months ago
@LeleJackMusic it's got about as much of a point as the ones Apple released.
wilhamlin 3 months ago
Just bc everybody's poor doesn't mean that Mac isn't a good computer.
DoUgsTer252 3 months ago
@DoUgsTer252 Why is that Macs only go to line, oh you must be poor cause you don't use a Mac Trolol. Well I can afford a Mac, but I realize that Macs cost way too much for their hardware. It's not about being rich or poor, it's about using your money wisely.
wilhamlin 3 months ago
@wilhamlin
A good rebuttal for the "you're too poor to afford one" tactic (shoddy as it is) is to ask why the hardware in your "poor" PC is three times as powerful as the Mac. I always go back to this simple fact. Spending cash frivolously is the very definition of "a fool and his money soon parted." Indeed, most Mac customers are very foolish, especially when the proof is right there. $750 dollars to upgrade a Mac from 6GB of RAM to 16GB? That's inexcusable.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven I'll agree with you in regards to buying RAM or HD from Apple. But how do you generally conclude hardware in a PC is inherently 3 timer more powerful than a Mac? Macs range from LV i5 to dual Xeons for CPUs. Where are your specs of comparison and would they fit with average PC purchased by consumers?
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi You do know that the prices for a PC for a i7 2600k overclocked to 4.5 GHZ costs around $800? It's Ironic because you like Macs and look at Best Buy for the prices. It's funny because both of them scam you at least $300 for a premium.
Gfulino 3 months ago
@Gfulino The question is about 3x as powerful between PC and Mac hardware. You probably know that 3x clock speed ≠ 3x as powerful in performing tasks because running sw 3x as fast isn't a direct 1:1 ratio between CPU clock speed vs speed of task to be performed.
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi
ribaldi, while I do agree that things like Xeons are pieces of hardware, they are still way behind the times. Take a look at the 8 and 16-core Bulldozer CPUs for instance. They boast an 89% lead over even the best server CPUs, and Intel is releasing even better than that in the next few months. Xeons aren't inherently better at much, and i5's are budget-range CPUs at best. Even Thunderbolt isn't Mac-exclusive. Why are $2000 iMacs being beaten badly by $1000 PCs?
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven
I guess your also adding the hi res 2560 X 1440 screen as well because there so cheap to buy on there own and all.
Because A $1000 pc is just the pc and nothing else
doona22 3 months ago
@doona22 The big problem with 2560X1440 is that very little programs (outside of games) can actually utilize it. Hell more programs support 2560X1600... and considering that most users would never utilize it, 1920X1080 is more than enough for most people, which goes back to PCs ability to have a system built for exactly what you need it for, not for what someone else thinks you need it for.
wilhamlin 3 months ago
@wilhamlin
eh Games is enough.
doona22 3 months ago
@doona22
Having a big desktop area is very nice, my friend, but what's the use if you can't properly take advantage of it? The only reason you'd need a monitor with that much viewing area is for professional graphics and video editing.....neither of which the iMac was designed to handle. The horsepower simply can't do it. Gaming? Good luck getting past 1680x1050 without significant lag (unless you're playing a 5 year old game like WoW).
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven
Well I am playing batman and grand theft auto turned up to 25560 X 1440 so I must be just lucky!
doona22 3 months ago
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@doona22
It's one thing to say it. It's quite another to prove it. I know you're lying, so the onus is on you to prove me wrong.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@doona22 You mean to tell me that you are playing Batman on approximately 10 ultra high res monitors?
aussienerds 1 month ago
@doona22
Also, for $300, you can buy yourself two ASUS ML238 24" monitors which are LED backlit with a beautiful display. Might not be 2560x1440, but at least they'll suit what my system was designed for.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven Apple does revamp their systems at a slower pace. But that wasn't my question to you. You've stated: "... the hardware in your "poor" PC is three times as powerful as the Mac". I find that is not the case. There is a significant % of PCs still using Celerons and Durons. Apple doesn't use these budget CPUs at all. So I asked you specifics for comparison sake to illustrate 3x as powerful between PCs and Macs.
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi
Ahhhh, but you're comparing buy vs. buy to buy vs. build. That's usually where I tend to create confusion. I'm not big on buying from any brand name, as building yields supreme results with plenty of leftover cash. Look at it from that perspective. Even the best of the Apple crop can't compare with the paradigm shifts in RAM, video cards and CPUs. Take a look at Bulldozer, which is trumping the best server CPUs in the entire industry with an 89% lead.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven I'm asking, how is a "poor" PC 3 times as powerful as the Mac (as stated by you)?
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi
Very simple. When a Mac customer says "you're too poor to afford one," you simply have to ask them why your "poor" PC can best the "expensive" Mac in performance, versatility and expandability. Why is that? Why are $1000 PCs knocking $1999 iMacs completely on their butts with every third-party benchmark? Why is Apple too afraid to benchmark Macs against PCs on their websites, if they're so good? Shouldn't Apple be trumpeting the superiority of their machines?
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven That wasn't the argument I have question about. It was about 3x as powerful. I'm not disputing you on price. Is there reliable data that a "poor" PC is 3 times as powerful as a Mac?
I believe Apple is trumping the ease of use and tighter integration as a selling point. They don't advertise based on clock speed, expandability and other PC builder aspects in regards to Macs. It's a totally different market.
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi
We can sit and argue the meaning of the term, but it's irrelevant. What isn't irrelevant is that Apple hasn't kept up, and that's purely by choice to drive sales of hardware that is several generations behind on the timeline. That's a fact. Ease of use and tighter integration are 100% subjective and relative, and can't be proven in real-world applications vs. Linux or Windows 7. It merely depends how you implement the OS. OSX by definition isn't as fast, or secure. Facts.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago 3
@MaestroDraven That wasn't my question to you. Perhaps you're unable to back up with facts that a "poor" PC is 3 times as power as a Mac. What does that even mean? Now I'm done asking. It appears no answer is forth coming. Thanks for replying anyways.
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi
Check the hardware stats on the latest PC hardware vs. the latest Mac hardware, and it will all become clear to you. I expect the people I debate with to be capable of entering some very simplistic search parameters. Either way, I've nothing to prove :)
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@ribaldi of course he has no facts. he builds an air and a pretence of intelligence to cover up his craftily written bullcrap. he's the personification of apple itself!
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 months ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld Who were you referring to?
ribaldi 2 months ago
@ribaldi mr maestro-bullcrap-draven over there. me and him go way back in terms of arguments. i have plenty of time to study his arguments, and most are completely unfounded. he uses a calm, precise and intelligent manner to make himself appear knowledgable and wise, and yet it is all a ruse. and worse still, he denounces your real knowledge if you defy is word.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 months ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld Oh right. Well, I guess you must have fun debating him. He equated Moore's Law with paradigm shifts in the PC industry. That convinced me I was not going to get much out of him. Have fun.
ribaldi 2 months ago
@ribaldi
You may wish to side with people who haven't made silly claims. Read as follows from a sample PM he sent me.
InhabitantofOddWorld: "Look at innovation over the whole course of Apple's history. Without them, you wouldn't have a mouse, an LCD display, or even a case."
I had no idea that Apple invented the mouse, the LCD display, and the computer case. Did you??? It's certainly news to me.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven
maestro thank u for the information. i was going to buy a Mac but after listening to your comments i am not going to. I never thought about some of the stuff u were talking about but it all makes sense. thank you very much for that!!
HaileyBebe 2 months ago
@HaileyBebe
Heyyyy, my pleasure Hailey! Glad to be of help! Believe it or not, I'm not trying to bash Macs. I'm just educating people about the silliness of shelling out so much money for so little. Macs aren't the machines they claim to be from a security standpoint, or a performance standpoint. Apple however, does a great, great job of brainwashing some people into thinking otherwise. The key word with ANY product is RESEARCH. If it doesn't seem right, it's probably not.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven You seem to think I care about what you two have debated about in the past.
ribaldi 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven While I can agree that purely on a Hardware vs cost basis, PC is cheaper, does any Windows OEM display benchmark comparisons of Macs?
aussienerds 1 month ago
@aussienerds
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Windows doesn't make hardware, so it would be pointless for them to do so. Apple never benchmarks against PC manufacturers because they always seem to lose by a wide stretch, which is why they benchmark against previous Mac iterations.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
@ribaldi
Now, look at it from Apple's standpoint. Does it make any sense to upgrade the Macs regularly to higher hardware configurations when they can keep it relatively the same and then overcharge for it? Case in point: RAM upgrades. Take a look at the gall of Apple's prices. They are horrible. Apple is all about profit, profit, profit, so to keep a 17" Macbook Pro at $2499 with the hardware inside gives them a higher profit margin, especially since the know-nothing won't notice.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven Already agreed with you regarding RAM pricing from Apple. Now, what is wrong with profit? Which companies are not about making more profits?
Apple kept their margins high and yet still increase their Mac sales. They've managed it, they deserve to gain from it. Other PC makers would love to be in that position - and they've tried. But because of the market they are in and their business model, they cannot manage it. That's all.
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi
They haven't increased very much, my friend. Mac market share was 4.7% in 2007. Now it's 6%. That's four years later. Not exactly something to shout from the rooftops. Windows 7's sales ran several circles around Snow Leopard's sales in the first two weeks of release....after SL had a 3 month head start. For every Mac sold, 100 PCs are sold, easily. Apple's mass profits come from the mobile market.....period. Not from Mac sales.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi Awww frak! Youtube screwed up my formatting.
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi
You're comparing one platform against several others. Sure, those companies might be each making less, but the sum of their parts is completely obvious, and that's just big-box companies. It doesn't take into account the third-party customizer companies or the home user who builds it himself (which number VERY high). The facts are undeniable. 92.27% of the world has chosen PCs over Macs, and that number won't be changing drastically in the next 10 years.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven What are the number for home builders worldwide? It's always been a mystery to me.
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi
There is no exact figure as nobody can report it, but it can be roughly extrapolated based on OS usage share, market share and the difference when box company numbers are subtracted from the equation. There are sources that list the custom-built market at roughly 25% - 30% of the PC market.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven tsk, tsk, tsk. the same repetitive lies over and over. most of the world hasn't chosen PCs over Macs because they are in any way better, but because they are cheaper and more available. what you have laughably failed to realise is that Apple's prices rarely change, either up or down, and yet consumers are progressively becoming richer. before you know, Macs will have a larger marketshare because consumers can afford them.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 months ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld
Rarely change? Before Christmas, Mac prices were $200 cheaper. Right before the Christmas season.....woosh! They went up. I wonder why that is? Upgrading to 16GB of RAM went from $750 to $850! And honestly...why should Apple drop their prices when they're still putting 2 year old hardware configurations together? Where' s the profit (price gouging) in that?
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld
But please.....if you can find a logical, valid reason why 16GB of cheap, low-grade Hynix RAM should cost $750 dollars, then please post it here. I'm dying to know.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@ribaldi
Like I said, Apple's future is the mobile market, and they should stay firmly entrenched there because that is where they seem to be doing the best business.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@ribaldi
Now, as a consumer, you should be more acutely aware of what you're paying for. There is a myth in Western culture that the higher a dollar value is, the better the quality. That is why Nissan invented the Infiniti brand for the Western market, but it doesn't exist in Japan. Honda did the same thing with Acura. It's a ploy that has been used for a long time now. If you think it's justifiable to pay $750 to upgrade 6GB of RAM to 16GB, then that's entirely your choice, I guess.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@ribaldi
edit....."while I do agree that things like Xeons are GOOD pieces of hardware...."
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@ribaldi
The problem isn't Mac hardware. Not exactly, anyways. The problem is the price that Apple is charging for that hardware. It is absolutely, in no way justifiable, not when the PC landscape is continuously evolving on a consistent basis, and leaping by paradigm shifts every few months. Apple likes to appear "on their game" by doing cash deals with companies like Intel for temporary exclusivity, but it's all a smokescreen. At the end of the day, Macs are sorely lacking.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago 16
@MaestroDraven What were the paradigm shifts every few months in PC landscape in 2011?
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi
My friend, the very industry leaps ahead by bounds every few months. Macs utilize PC parts as well. The only difference is, they prefer to hang back 16-24 months in order to prioritize profiteering. Components costs drop drastically within the space of a few months, yet Apple's prices never change. This is very easy to understand, just think about it.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven What were the paradigm shifts in PC landscape this year? Dropping costs???
ribaldi 3 months ago
@ribaldi
Haha! You didn't read my comment carefully enough :) There are too many to mention. Transistor sizes keep getting smaller, CPUs keep leapfrogging (ie: Bulldozer) hard drives become bigger and more powerful, RAM latency timings continue to drop......and on top of all that, prices stay affordable despite the premium level of the parts.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven You're defining paradigm shifts as gradual improvements in components relative to cost. That's Moore's Law and not necessarily a paradigm shift. A paradigm shift is changing the industry's thinking and operation that break away from past conventions. Multi-core winning over higher clock speeds in CPU design is an example of paradigm shift. Without referring to aspects of Moore's Law because that's just expected gradual improvements, what paradigm shifts occurred this past year?
ribaldi 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven Well said, fella!
skyangelnaruto 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven it's justifiable in that apple is a business, there to make money and their excellent marketing means people continue to buy macs. Why would they reduce the price when they make the largest profit of any personal computer manufacturer on earth?
mikejmckeon 2 months ago
@mikejmckeon
Actually, they aren't. With a 6% worldwide market share, Apple has had a disastrous run in the grand scheme of things. In 2007 they had 4.7% of the market. A 1.3% jump in 5 years isn't good. It's atrocious. Now factor in the fact that most Mac customers are repeat buyers, and what is happening? A whole lot of nothing. Apple's major business bulk is the mobile market. Macs account for very little of their overall coin.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
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@mikejmckeon
Actually, they aren't. With a 6% worldwide market share, Apple has had a disastrous run in the grand scheme of things. In 2007 they had 4.7% of the market. A 1.3% jump in 5 years isn't good. It's atrocious. Now factor in the fact that most Mac customers are repeat buyers, and what is happening? A whole lot of nothing. Apple's major business bulk is the mobile market. Macs account for very little of their overall coin.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
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@mikejmckeon
Actually, they aren't. With a 6% worldwide market share, Apple has had a disastrous run in the grand scheme of things. In 2007 they had 4.7% of the market. A 1.3% jump in 5 years isn't good. It's atrocious. Now factor in the fact that most Mac customers are repeat buyers, and what is happening? A whole lot of nothing. Apple's major business bulk is the mobile market. Macs account for very little of their overall coin.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven
Their marketing is not at all about their advertising savvy, but your personal lack of knowledge about the product in question. The build quality, the security, the speed....they're all myths, and bad ones at that. The class action lawsuits, Pwn2Own contests, Black Hat and Defcon speeches (by Apple employees, no less), third-party benchmarks all prove it. Yet....it still costs more. Way more. It's a textbook example of the higher price myth.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven while i agree that their apparent 'great security' is purely Apple playing up the fact that hardly anyone writes mac viruses, i disagree with your issues with the speed and build, essentially as my Mac regularly runs far more arduous tasks than my PC ever did and yet isn't as loud or hot. also, it is completely irrelevant about product knowledge to know they have great marketing skill. You always build a pretence of knowledge so your arguments appear to have a factual basis.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 months ago
@mikejmckeon
That being said, if their marketing has duped you, then it's a testament not to their advertising savvy, but your lack of knowledge and research on what you're buying. Quality? Not there. The class action lawsuits prove it. They sell significantly less machines, so you hear about problems less often. Same as the Canadian/U.S. murder rate difference. Ratio-wise, they're neck-and-neck, but the U.S. simply has more people. Security? Non-existent. Pwn2own proved it.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven ooh, well look at this. winning thumbs up with craftily written codswallop. It is common knowledge that Macs have a great hardware, and thus are even great for running games (who would have thought it?!!) they're only lacking due to their software, and thus incompatibility. It is common knowledge that if they ran a more compatible OS, they'd be one of the best computer ranges on the market.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 months ago
@DoUgsTer252 Just because you're stupid it doesn't mean your dumb... wait a minute...
ch3573r90 3 months ago
Well. I guess it makes sense. With all the money you save after getting a PC, you can spend it on your girl.
HelloKwak 3 months ago 72
@HelloKwak I'd rather spend it on myself....
jayc342009 3 months ago
@HelloKwak with having more money to spend on a mac in the first place, you may be able to woo over an even better girl.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 months ago
You can't tell one side is superior than another if you tell the other side they are all fags. Macs and PCs are good at their own little things. PC with games and Macs with work. Not all people are gamers and not all people do work so take your pick. :)
MuhammedALee17 3 months ago
@MaestroDaeven
All I hear is:
MAC IS A PI-BIT OS OF WHICH THE Y DRIVE LOGISTICALLY NEGATES THE IMPERATIVE OPERATIONS OF THE CORN KERNEL AND THE HARD DRIVE PUNCTURES THE CD DRIVE AND RELEASES SPARKS AFTER WHIRRING VIGOROUSLY AND BLAH BLAH BLAH...
Mocha2007andcoco 3 months ago
@Mocha2007andcoco DONT PEOPLE REALISE ALL CAPS MAKES CRAP HARDER TO READ AND COMPREHEND. BUT THE TARDS STILL DO IT ANYWAY.
prettylittleditty89 3 months ago
how does that work lol
TheSoulGames 3 months ago
@MuhammedALee17 Nobody says MacOS is bad (but you're also forgeting MacOS is simply unix with better skin so wow they really put a lot of "effort" in it). just saying, why should i buy something thats as good or worse (deff not better) and im not used on and pay twice as much? Not everyone has money to waste around. If you want to use Mac then be my guest, just stop acting like its f***ing god given computer cause its not, its way over priced and lacks hardware reconfigurations capabilites.
doomserpent 3 months ago
@doomserpent
It's interesting to note that OSX is more of a hybrid kernel than a UNIX derivative. It's undergone so many internal changes, mixing in FreeBSD, Mach, etc., that it is more "UNIX-compatible" than actual UNIX. From a tech standpoint this makes sense given OSX's inherent lack of security which makes it a breeze for hackers and malware authors to take advantage of the platform. By contrast, making an attack work on Windows is notoriously difficult.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
I use a mac but it's kinda funny!
ah by the way you winfags suck balls ;)
Brando1411 3 months ago
Windows sucks and makes no sense just like this video. That old fart doesn't look rich enough to get that young woman, but that's how dopey Winbreds see themselves. hahahah right
xyzoneon 3 months ago
@xyzoneon Do us all a favour and kill yourself now I just can't watch to see another person go to such a stupid thing.
Gr8rThenU 3 months ago
@Gr8rThenU And you write like a real genius. I go to such a stupid thing? Ok.
xyzoneon 3 months ago
@xyzoneon Well we all know Mac sucks its Like comparing Justin bieber to Adele or Frank Sinatra in this case Justin Bieber is Mac and Frank Sinatra is Windows we all know hes better.
Gr8rThenU 3 months ago
@Gr8rThenU You don't even know about basic punctuation. I doubt you and your imaginary "we" friends know about what really sucks (which is Windows).
xyzoneon 3 months ago
@xyzoneon UMADBRO...NIE? *trollface*
Gr8rThenU 3 months ago
@Gr8rThenU gay
xyzoneon 3 months ago
Are you guys serious? A Mac is basiclly a fucking PC. You're able to install Windows on a "Mac" machine and OSX on a normal selfbuild PC. Guess what, my i7 has triple boot with ubuntu, win7 and OSX. But i guess i'll delete OSX because its kinda crap.
ch3573r90 4 months ago
@Mrridewizardlord macs are faster and easier to edit videos and easier download things
slyspy70 4 months ago
@slyspy70 you are a fucking retard. if you don't know shit about computers don't bother typing that nonsense you tard
devrocks80 4 months ago
@devrocks80 Haha Yet ANOTHER windows FANBOY Get a life...
slyspy70 4 months ago
@slyspy70 yet ANOTHER mac FANBOY. man you guys just get stupider everyday. you're inherent lack of knowledge about computers reflects a fundamental cognitive bias by virtue of which anything you say is void. "macs are faster and easier to edit videos with"??? are you fucking stupid?? it depends on the processor you retard and the computation at hand and when it comes to object oriented programming, windows beats mac out anyday. mac is good for unix ONLY. get your shit right before you spew idiot
devrocks80 4 months ago
@devrocks80 There is no such thing as a "Mac fanboy" There is only Windows haters...
slyspy70 4 months ago
@slyspy70 and you just serve to validate my point you retard. thank you. you are living proof that the majority of humanity is in fact layered with stupidity
devrocks80 4 months ago
@slyspy70 yeah there is, you know, the guys that just repeat all the things that Apple puts out in their ads regardless of if their true or not (which a great deal is stretching the the truth or a flat out lie). most cannot form their own opinions about anything so they just go with what's "hip".
wilhamlin 4 months ago
@wilhamlin Sorry! There is no sense arguing with a retard who wont open up to new ideas
slyspy70 4 months ago
@slyspy70 Nothing about Mac is new, it's all ideas taken from other places, making them pretty, and slapping a picture of an Apple on the back
wilhamlin 4 months ago
wow this was a waist of my time
funnyboy2234 4 months ago
@funnyboy2234 If you're on here, then you probably weren't doing anything important anyway
wilhamlin 4 months ago
@wilhamlin yeah
funnyboy2234 4 months ago
PC is stupid men!
caloiro13 4 months ago
I actually really prefer Mac's. My family used to have two PC's, one a laptop and one a normal computer. Both of them wouldn't work after a while from viruses. My family now only uses Apple products and nothing has broken yet, and we have 3 ipods, an iphone 3, an iphone 4, a macbook, 3 macbook pro's, 2 macs and 1 ipad and an ipad 2 and nothing has ever gone wrong with any of them.
123superbabe 4 months ago
i lol'd
Joyy3 4 months ago
hahaha mac geeks. don't have girls !
creativeprojects720 4 months ago
@creativeprojects720 im a mac freak and i have a fiancé so STFU troll
MelnDyl2010 4 months ago
EPIC WIN
MrJ0mmy 4 months ago
Get the fu** out o‘ here ... GET THE **CK OUT!!!
liminos 4 months ago
Pc are just jealous cos mac is WAAAAAYYY better and that girl is probablly a virus becuase viruses are always attracted to pcs and all mac needs is themselves cos they can ay all of them great songs from itunes and what can pc do? Im guessing cry in a corner!
CblingblingdP 4 months ago
@CblingblingdP Do you have any idea what your talking about lol PCs are way better in performance prize and looks to Macs and iTunes is shit and available for PC also so your stupid.
MrScrubbys 4 months ago
She just wants him for his processing chips!
FalkenOz 4 months ago 2
I suppose the people who bitch about the girl being a trojan and whatnot are mac users living in their parents basement, raging in jealousy because they recognise themself a little too much in that clip ;)
aryllia 4 months ago