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  • Hi Dave, Where has Willie Two Fingers Magee been lately? Haven't seen any vids with him lately. Not that I don't watch you, he's just goofy in a good way. LOL

    Keep on Rockin Bro.

  • I just got a genz benz tube amp today, and i feel reborn as a guitar player

  • @myskull54 What did you get the El Diablo?I have that with JJ EL-34's and Groove Tubes high gain 12ax7's and it has really great tone and nice distortion.

  • @38decembers yeah, and I hooked it up to my digitech gnx3 so I can get all kinds of fx 

  • the 6L6 GC ,GB OR GA can fit easily on a 6505+?i mean i dont need exactly the gc model.can somebody answer me.i will apreciate it

  • so i bought a mesa dual rectifier used from a local pawnshop and it didnt turn on so i then replaced the BLOWN fuse i found in it. then i brought it to a guitar shop and the guy plugged it in and 3 of the tubes didnt work..... yes 3 didnt light up. im wondering whether or not my mesa is fucked or if its simply just that i need to get 3 tubes? and thats its normal for 3 tubes to be broken and a fuse blown?

  • KT88s are more popular than KT66s....

  • Nice

  • Nice explaination!

  • heard petrucci play a mark 5 for a short guitar clinic in a small bar, sounded amazing

  • Dude, you are good. You could sell a pair of binoculars to a blind man...

  • Can I put some EL34s in my Peavey Valveking?

  • @guitarmessiah95 If it has the switch allowing you to choose between the 6l6's or el34's i know a lot of peaveys do have that switch.

  • Very helpful, thanks!

  • Your video help me a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Congratulations!

    Just to be sure... If Im looking for hendrix's tone should I go with EL34.

    That is what the creamy and soft low end amps got?

  • don't el34s stop getting louder at about 12 o clock

  • @kh1597 I don't think that has anything to do with the tube. That all has to do with what kind of taper is on your volume pot.

  • whats a 5u4 tube

  • @kh1597

    thats rectifier tubes,ive just seen them in mesa boogies!!

  • I have a Fender Hot Rod Deville 212.......love it!

  • great lesson.....pls. sir I have a ME-20 what amps. should I buy? Can u pls. help me...I will use it in my room guitar practice......

  • yeah JTM 45s used KT66s

  • great lesson ! thx!

  • Excellent review you are great Sir !!!

  • the tube he holds up at 8:14 is NOT and EL84!

  • @pixelmasseuse He never claimed it was an EL84!

    He stated that EL84's are smaller than other output tubes (holds a large one up), and has similar thickness than a preamp tube (holds one up) but are higher/longer!

  • @pixelmasseuse He didnt say it was. It was a diameter comparison to the preamp tube.

  • I have a 71 princeton reverb someone put EL84's in,, it sounds great and is way loud,, I dont understand the mod ,,but the amp is deep and has great tone

  • What's the best tube (preamp/power) brands to get the closest Fender Clean tone out of my Traynor YCS50? it's got 3 12ax7 and two 5881's.. thanks inadvanced!

  • dude your the man

  • :39 Yes, it is important to know the different kipes of tubes available.

    Great video though, I really learned a lot... Not I just need money for a decent amp.

  • you forgot the 5881 output tube.

  • 5881 is a 6L6. 5881 is the manufacturer's name for the tube. There are many different types of 6L6s.

  • I think you're wrong. 5881 is not a brand. 6L6WGB is similar to 5881 tube which is different of 6L6GB and 6L6GA.

  • I love this guy. He's such a "dude" and all, but stuff he says us really important and helpful to many people. This is a lesson to a lot of you people in comments. You can't play shit guitar, yet you your EGO is spilling all over the place. Look at this guy in the video. That's the man.

  • Hey man! We don't see you nearly often enough. MORE TAUB!

  • what would you have to do to a apm head to be able to switch out tubes and mix and match.. i know the dual and triple rectifier from mesa boogie allow you to do that but im talking about say and amp head from marshall

  • as crazy as this may sound, I like the clean tone of a solid state more than that of a valve amp

  • cool

  • i got the little fender champ 600 and find it a bit shrill, iam getting a new speaker for it would a change of valve manufacturer soften th etone? i hear jj nice and mellow

  • Most likely not, those amps tend to be shrill most likely due to the speaker. Make sure you get a les bright speaker.

  • Man, a lot of flame going on here. It just shows that it's absolutely ARBITRARY and subjective. There will always be those who prefer one over the other AND NOBODY IS WRONG, and are entitled to their OPINIONS. Let's all show each other some respect, eh?

  • @goalieblues good point. +1

  • two camels in a small car

    thats an RWJ quote for all who wanted to know

  • Thanks David, I love the fact that you guys cover a wide array of tone related topics - not just guitar lessons.

  • Second, Joe Satriani and all the other legends don't design their own gear,

    This is a pile of crap, anyone who knows these people knows they work very closely with designers.

  • Jesus Christ would you quit your bitchin? Fine, you may or may not know everything there is to know about guitar technology. The purpose of this video is to show people who may not know about tube amps what to consider when shopping for one, not for some amateur to spout his supposed "knowledge". No one cares about your opinion of good tone, no one cares about why companies use famous guitarists over techies (its to make more money, dip shit!). This is useful stuff, so fuck off. Tard

  • You care don't you? please tell me you care!! Know one was talking to you numb nuts. We don't need the thought police telling us what we should and shouldn't thread, especially since it has nothing to do with you, you busy body. People do care, and yes that's why they make serious money with signature models. The player/consumer makes the amp, not the other way around. We tell them what we like. If they don't listen, they end up with names as recognizable as supercool1990.

  • I'm not the one mocking the video or talking shit about tubes. Why don't you read the full conversation before making dumb comments and making stupid accusations?

  • Since when did tubes start practicing natural selection? Were the original Tubeasaurs destroyed by the Chixulub impact?

  • Great question. Tubes are still here, so survival of the fattest.

  • The differences he's talking about really aren't due to the tubes alone, it's primarily the filtering stages and speakers

    Tubes have a fixed frequency curve. Take one tube type and compare different brands, each will have a bit of a different sound, sometimes undeniable, sometimes unnoticeable.

    As the tube degrades from use, the frequency reproduction diminishes so your sound curve degrades

    The true "magic" in a tube is the incredibly high voltages they require which saturates your signal

  • I want my tubes intelligently designed. If Darwin were a modern day guitarist, he would be using b grade circuit solid state amps from Walmart hoping that it would evolve to a class A tube amp in ten million years.

  • you're a nutcase, lol

  • Why does everybody always say that?

  • I don't know what everybody says but what I said is a fact.

  • Class A?

    Class A is the LOWEST class, class D is what you should have been shooting for smart guy.

    In the AMPLIFIER side of things, If you heard a class D tube amp, a class D solid state and a class D digital amplifier, with no preamp altering of the signal 99% of you by hearing not seeing would choose the class D digital as your favorite.

  • I don't know who is feeding you this bullshit. Great amps are not based on technical classifications. There based on the subjectivity of listener. Some people believe that after a semester of schools that they want to flex there technical brain muscles. Now your telling me what I would chose. Did you take a class in telepathy or ESP? Do you personally know Satriani and his experience with amps. Where are you getting this stuff from.

  • And yes, great amps ARE based on circuit class.

    A class D will deliver the best performance regardless of how good a lower class may sound or perform.

    The overall tone and distortion characteristics are a matter of preamp architecture. As I've stated, the only thing a tube really does to your tone is give you some frequency modulation depending on the tubes you use and a thicker signal due to voltage, hence the term warmth.

    Jim Marshall, a DRUMMER, couldn't have even told you that.

    I DID

  • I'm on my way to becoming an electronical engineer and can tell you as an educated professional, tube is pure myth.

    These guys carry on about tubes when most of them have a 25% hearing loss or greater.

    Tubes are rubbish sonically speaking.

    The "warmth" they add?

    More nonsense. Yes there is a MILD audible difference between tubes and chips but worth a thousand dollar price tag difference?

    Not on your life.

  • I have been playing for almost forty years. I don't know who is feeding you this bullshit about tubes tone being a myth but if there teaching this to you in school you better get a refund. The way a vacuum tube effects the tone and output is completly different from solid state or even amp modeling technology. You can get a good sound from amp modeling but there is still nothing like tubes. This is what separates techs and theory from real world musicians and experienced ears.

  • Nobody is feeding me bullshit unlike you with your salesman nonsense. I've been working with circuits for 328612368 years blah blah blah I mean give me a fucking break you jerk off.

    Tubes are rubbish. No better or worse than solid state or digital chips. They have a bit of a richer sound due to high levels of harmonic saturation but ultimately, nothing they do justifies the price tag.

    If I played any of my dozen amps while you wore a blindfold, you would never be able to tell which was tube

  • @JonDeth Bullshit I could easily tell the difference between a tube amp and a solid state amp. If you can't tell the difference you don't have an ear for tone, either develop your ear or give up your senseless uninformed dribble.

  • You're delusional.

    Some institutions have done the blind sound tests. They tested about 50 amps and dozens of veteran guitarists, some of them quite famous.

    The end result?

    Nobody had a remotely competent level of accuracy.

    The so called magic to a tube is primarily due to the high voltage driving them thus driving your signal and the frequency modulation that takes place from using different tubes as well as like tubes degrading at different rates.

    You know nothing.

  • Where are your amp tone test demos. I saw a video that sounded like a lot of distortion but wasn't blown away by tone.

  • The reason tubes have a bit of a richer sound isn't because they're magic as you clearly believe. It's because the plate voltage is so high. It's like fueling a fire with gas vs rocket fuel.

    With so much voltage driving your signal, you get a richer sound but all the talk about dampening, response etc. is beyond exaggerated, it's become legend and myth.

    The culprits behind the compression of a circuit, frequency dampening etc. is far more than just an act of the tubes.

    Tubes = Darwinism

  • Sound and tone is relative to the player's preference. There is no correct sound or tone. It's rediculous to say that only tube amps produce good sound. What is "good sound"? Maybe some players prefer the sound of a solid state amp.

  • I have to agree. Not only are they too expensive, but you have to keep replacing tubes, and if you don't buy the exact same tubes you have to make adjustments. What a pain. Solid State FTW!

  • tubes is a myth? wtf ? Yeah go and ask Joe Satriani if he would ever use a solid state amp instead of a tube amp. Tubes and solid state amps is like comparing a Digital Multieffects Processors to Stomp boxes.

  • Joe Satriani doesn't know the difference between a clipping diode and a schottky diode let alone why tubes sound the way they do

    Many years ago when I started educating myself, I asked THE most respected designers why tubes had this supposed unique sound, none of them had a REAL answer

    Ultimately what I discovered is, the different frequency curves of each tube produces frequency modulation, hence the slight "WAH" sound some tube amps have. They also richen the signal with very high voltage

  • first off, you don't know if he knows that or not. And considering his 30 years + knowledge I guess he knows a little. And it's not even the point, Tubes do sound better than solid state and that's why pretty much every proffesional musician uses tube amps and not solid state. If you compared say a marshall solid state and a marshall tube amp I'm 100% you could tell the difference. And as you say, you are "self educated" so I don't know how much I could trust your statements based on that

  • Actually I'm on my way to getting an electronic engineering degree.

    Second, Joe Satriani and all the other legends don't design their own gear, I do. I've not just designed circuits, I've invented new ones from the ground up.

    If you blindfold compare the Marshall DFX, which was discontinued, to the Marshall JVM, you would NEVER know the difference.

    That's why Marshall replaced the DFX with the scrapped down HFX, they were losing tube amp sales to their own solid state amp line.

  • Have you ever asked yourself why Peavy or other companies work with people like Satriani and other artist when designing amps and guitars and stomp boxes when they could just as easily get a tech on his way to becoming as you say an electronic engineer. John if the video you posted playing guitar demonstrates what your idea of good tone is, which I'm assuming it is since you uploaded for all to hear, if this is good tone, then I'm not very impressed.

  • My page is a hobby, I throw something up on it maybe once every few months. I don't claim my videos to be a good or even fair representation of my work

    Show me Joe's circuit demos though.

    Show me Vai's or Van Halens or Cooley's

    None of them know jack shit about circuit architecture and throw around catch phrases while promoting overpriced tube amps

    Ultimately, a tube just drives your signal as does a chip or transistor. The ultimate defining points will be your clipping, filters and speakers

  • All this bragging and no evidence posted to verify all this new cutting edge circuitry that you say is superior. Do you really think you know more about amps than Alexander Dumble and Mesa Boogie who strongly disagree with you? Talkers talk the talk, and these people walk the walk.

  • You know literally NOTHING about circuits be it architecture, IC properties and I bet you couldn't even tell the difference between a resistor from an inductor.

    I however do.

    You also contradict yourself on all terms.

    People like Satriania just say I want it softer, harsher, rounder, sharper etc. and the tech changes a few pieces on the breadboard and Joe says OK, use that.

    WOW big fuckin deal.

    Most of what determines a circuits sound is the filtering and clipping characteristics.

  • dude, you can't even spell his name so I'm pretty sure you don't even know much about who he is. It's a reason why he's called "The Master Of Tone". You don't get that kinda tone with a solid state amp and just saying "softer, harsher". Lol

    And what does it matter even if they aren't professionals at circuts, the point is that it's a big reason why they play tube amps.. All of them.. Vai, Petrucci, Satch etc

  • You also need informed as to how these tube guitar amps came to exist. Back when these companies were started, a guy would buy everything direct from the designers such as G.E. or Sylvania

    With the bulk orders of tubes, transformers etc. came a schematic. These tube guitar amp companies built their amps off these standard schematics and stuck their label on the enclosures

    Ultimately, they added tone stacks to compete and more as time passed. These core designs are still the basis to this day

  • thanks man i really know what to look for now

  • you could go with a spider iv and get any sound you want and they build a tube amp!

  • he can also use his whiteboard to sell amway!

  • Show me "The Plan"

  • Much needed lesson.

    Thank you for explaining it all.

    now I know that my Peavy Artist 240 with 4 6L6 tubes will NEVER be a suitable amp for my type of playing.

    I need a 6V6 amp.

    Rats...

    Dm

  • Boring!

  • very useful info. i learned a lot.

    thanks for the great vid.

  • Thank you so much, Dave! : )

  • *sigh* i remember the time when they didnt out their tags as the title...

  • Cool -- thanks a lot.

  • very informative technical lesson ! Thank you so much David !

  • nice...real informative

  • GREAT INFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THANKS

  • Guitar lesson with a white board? What is this madness?!?!?!?!

  • it's a lesson on tubes

  • Thanks I found that very informative!

  • Thanks a lot Dave... I'm building my own tube amp and this really helps me a lot on finding my own tone... YOU ROCK!

  • Thank You for that lesson Dave.

  • If its a gimmick then it works relly well lol I wish I could afford a Fender Custom or lots of other premium amps but this ones close at a reasonable price, I got the vt100 its too loud actually.

  • You forgot about Randall amplifers :D

  • true.

    I did.

  • Would have been great to actualy give us the sounds while talking about them..

  • Actually, PEAVEY belongs at the TOP of that list.

    HP made amps in the early 60's just after Marshall started, and all the rest came later.

    You can't do better than a PEAVEY or a Marshall.

    ALL the rest are just copycats trying to keep up.

  • ur nuts and a nub the brand doesnt matter what matters is your ear just because they were the first doesnt mean they are currently the best , because there is no best its up to you to get your tone so dont drop here your nub stuff fanboy

  • obviously you've never played a Bad Cat Hot Cat...they BLOW away all other EL34 amps, big time

  • obviously you never played an Engl invader, amazing

  • Check out Amp Maker. They have a wealth of info as well as valve amp kits at bargain prices.

  • good lesson :)

    not many of these on youtube

  • very informative,thanks

  • i have no idea what to buy, i really want a good tubeamp for home use.

    i want something that can have cranked distortion without being mad loud. i live in an apartement and really want a nice CHEAP good tubeamp.

    any advice?

  • The "Vox vt 30,"(30 watts) is a really good tube amp, for $280. It has a lot of different tones, and is very versatile. I recomend it to any type of player. There is also a 15,50, and 100 watt version.

  • VOX valvetronix is the best!!!! sounds no nice OMG!!!!!

  • VT amps arent full tube amps though, they have one tube used in the valve-reactor circuit. It sounds like a tube amp though, I dont know how it works but it does.

  • This is the kind of video that tons of people were waiting for.

    thanks!

  • woww....who puts up videos like these...keep up th good work guys

  • I needed this video!.. THANKS!

  • Never forget: The power Tube has almost no influence to to sound compared to the pre-amp tubes. Most amps today are not made to overdrive the power-tubes!

  • I have to disagree, most amps (talking about good class alltube amps) are designed to drive both preamp and power amp.

  • Anyway, most people with 50 watts ans above amps will never drive their power tube into overdrive... It is just too loud.

    And that is what I am trying to say: Changing the power tubes will not really have a big effect on the tone

  • Can i use Mesa Boogie 6l6gc in my Valve King? I think it has 6l6gc ruby tubes

  • exceptionally helpful & informative video!

  • He could have mentioned the Line 6 Spider Valve MkII when he talked about the 6L6..

  • 5/5 excellent vid.

  • Most of the Carr amps use EL34's I've got a Mark II 2x12 and it sounds great ... A little on the loud side, but great nonetheless.

  • YES! best vid in a while! thank you!

  • Excellent.

  • thank you for all that info. as a beginner in guitar i need a good amp and your information has definitely help my make an informative decision.

  • Fantastic video, this type of learning is why I'm subscribed to this channel.

  • Great stuff!

  • sick lookin tat wat is it

  • Great job, I learned a lot form this.

  • now I have a peavey 5150 and I have 6L6 can I switch to 6v6 without hurting things? the reason is I'd like to push my amp more but I barely get to 3 at shows.

  • That's why you shouldn't buy a 4x12 kinda tipe of amp...

    You could use a smaller cabinet (like 2x12 or even smaller), or you could (and should) buy a combo.

  • @avhcbeaver1 Get a Dr. Z Air Brake. Turn up your amp and kick the Brake down about 2 nothches... You'll get the full sound out of your amp without squashing the sound. I found the Dr. Z is the cleanest attenuator The Hot Plate doesn't work very well with lower output amps.

    Cheers.

  • @avhcbeaver1 You won't be able to use 6V6's in your 5150. There are many different types of 6L6's though. The 5881 is the same as a 6L6. You might actually be able to use KT66's, they are sometimes interchangeable with 6L6GC's, but not always.

  • you guys should do an amp lesson on how to set the setting on the amp to get different types of tones

  • great video dave :)

    great job explaining a confusing topic

  • good video man, thank you for this one again. god bless you.

  • That was one awesomely informative video! Great stuff!

  • great video. thanks for the info!!!

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